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Did any us battleships in ww2 other than uss washington actually hit/sink enemy ship? Why did keep building so many battleships and putting fuckhuge cannons on them if they never really used them for anything other than shore bombardment.
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>>38539283
*why did us keep building
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>>38539303
>elf ears
Ruined.
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>>38539326
But elf ears are the best ears. 9 out of 10 battle ships agree.
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>>38539283
Because they bombarded the shit out of those shores. What else do you want a slow, fat, artillery barge to do?
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>>38539283
>Why did keep building so many battleships and putting fuckhuge cannons on them if they never really used them for anything other than shore bombardment.
Because we didn't know at the time they were laid down just how much the carrier would come to dominate naval surface warfare. Note that we stopped with only 4 Iowas and 2 Alaskas
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>>38539393
Alaska wasn't a battleship, anon, she was just a large cruiser.
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>Alaska wasn't a battleship, anon, she was just a large cruiser.
My point is that both classes were large surface combatants whose combat capability is surpassed by an aircraft carrier. Once this had been demonstrated the Navy altered construction plans accordingly.
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>>38539397
*Super Cruiser to counter Japanese Fantasy Super Cruiser.
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>>38539435
no u
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>>38539393
This.

Taranto, Pearl Harbor, and Midway happened well after a number of battleships had been laid down and were far down the line to completion.
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Could've been worse.
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>>38539283
USS Massachusetts crippled Vichy French bb Jean Bart in a gun duel.
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>>38539579
As well as sinking two other frog destroyers and a cruiser.
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>>38539579
2BH Jean Bart was never really operational to begin with.
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>>38539283
What do you think a battleship is for
Its for bombarding the coast
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New Jersey sending up a absolute hellstorm of AA fire.

https://youtu.be/mqfvYf5sMWA?t=2m37s
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>1:08
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>>38539283
Look up the Battle of Surigao Strait
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>>38539579
Nope. Jean Bart had only one operational turret that BB-59 disabled for a day and it was actually aircraft from USS Ranger that sank her in the harbor.
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>>38539842

based Jesse crossing the T
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>>38539283
Battle of the Surigao Strait, early morning of October 25h, 1944.
>Nishimura's "Southern Force" consisted of the old battleships Yamashiro and Fusō, the heavy cruiser Mogami, and four destroyers
>As the Japanese Southern Force approached the Surigao Strait, it ran into a deadly trap set by the U.S. 7th Fleet Support Force. Rear Admiral Jesse Oldendorf had a substantial force. There were six battleships: West Virginia, Maryland, Mississippi, Tennessee, California, and Pennsylvania. All but Mississippi had been sunk or damaged in the attack on Pearl Harbor and repaired
>At 03:16, West Virginia's radar picked up the surviving ships of Nishimura's force at a range of 42,000 yd (38,000 m). West Virginia tracked them as they approached in the pitch black night. At 03:53, she fired the eight 16 in (406 mm) guns of her main battery at a range of 22,800 yd (20,800 m) or 12.9 miles, striking Yamashiro with her first salvo. She went on to fire a total of 93 shells. At 03:55, California and Tennessee joined in, firing a total of 63 and 69 14 in (356 mm) shells, respectively.
American PT boats and destroyers also sank some ships, but this was the final time that lines of battle were formed by two opposing forces of capital ships.

As was mentioned, the American battleships in that battle were all older and most had been repaired (or in the West Virginia's case, completely rebuilt) following Pearl Harbor. American battleships built during WW2 had the purpose of being AA platforms and escorts for the carriers should they run into a surface force. It was the older standard-type battleships that were much slower that were usually doing the shore bombardments. They were used in that role because they were effective and because they were available. In the Atlantic and Mediterranean, a mix of older and newer ships were used for convoy escort and shore bombardment.
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>>38540329
Radar too OP pls nerf
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BBs had a major impact on the war just by their presence. The reason why the IJN was always trying to maneuver into a decisive BB conflict and the USN avoided this is proof of that. BBs went away not because of aircraft carriers but because of guided missiles.
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>>38540398
>BBs went away not because of aircraft carriers
A lot of BBs went away because of aircraft carriers pham.
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>>38539378
>Slow, fat artillery barge

Maybe the Washington Naval Treaty era ships were slow-ish, but the Iowa class were lean as fuck. They could make 33 knots with a full load of stores, fuel, and ordnance. That's equal to the speed of fleet carriers like the Essex.
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>>38540477
>Iowa goes 33 knots
>F6F goes 330 knots
Keeping battleships in service after the Battle of the Coral Sea was a wank and reactivating them for Lebanon and Desert Storm is unarguably a more egregious waste of taxpayer money than any other govt program.
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>>38540661
>Airplanes are faster than ships

The point was that battleships could match or exceed the top speeds of fleet carriers, and therefore that they were not "fat and slow." Of course the air wing is the main striking arm, but battleships had their uses both as surface combatants and as naval gunfire support.
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>>38539283
night time combats. i think guadalcanal and phillippine campaigns had them
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>>38539283
NGS from Battleships was fucking terrifying
nothing blows a nip dug in like a tic out a hole the way a 16inch round does
heck during Iraq war in the 90s Iraqis surrendered to USS Missouri's drone as they new it was the spotter for NGS
hopefully if the ISIS shit kicks up in the Philippines or even better china collapses soon and has their civil war we can see some quality NGS videos of ISIS or Chinese getting BTFO
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>>38542382
wrong pic
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>>38539283
The USS North Carolina sank a supply ship and shot down a bunch of fighters. But thats about it.
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>>38539283
Bombarding the shit out of nip held islands was standard procedure before landing troops. Nothing does it better than eight or nine 16 inch deck guns. It is more important for amphibious/land engagements than for naval engagements, unless it was against other enemy battleships or cruisers at long range.
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>>38540074
He didn't say the USS Washington sank her. He said it crippled it, which it did. It knocked out its only operational turret and prevented it from continuing to shell US forces for the remainder of the action.
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>>38539635
Are those wildcats?
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>>38540661
Having fast battleships as AA escorts for fleet carriers was crucial. Having the North Carolina beside the Enterprise is a large reason why she survived the Japanese air attacks during the battle of Santa Cruz Island while the Hornet sank.

You can’t minimize the effect of a wall of radar-directed AA against attacking aircraft.
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>>38540661
Also it was cheaper/faster to reactivate the Iowas rather than start from scratch just to have something that could match the Soviet Kirov battle cruisers.




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