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What do you stock?
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>>39128906
Stuff I know I will eat
>beans
>rice
>pasta
> pasta sauce
> canned meat
> protein powder
> etc etc etc
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>>39128906
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What's the difference in the civilian MRE and the military MRE? Wouldn't it be better to just buy the civilian one since it's probably a lot fresher and cheaper?
Also, mountain house is pretty damn tasty.
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>>39129004
I’ve never had a civilian MRE so I couldn’t tell you the difference. These 2 are the last of the MREs that I managed to stockpile while in the military. And yes mountain house meals are delicious. These ones have a best by date of 2047
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>>39128906
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>>39129031
Are those medical models of penises? Why do you have so many? My old girlfriend who was a nurse had one but this just seems excessive.
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>>39128906
Reported for SPAM
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>>39129031
Ive sent this to about 15 people telling them to stop posting on /k/ .......
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>>39129052
I typed a response to your post saying “how is this spam?”. I then realized you were jesting about the food item spam
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>>39129031
you are dangerously low on supplies. you need more rainbow flavor.
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>>39129057
Cool, send it to others. Maybe the normies will fuck off.
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>>39128906
Boat rations primarily, 2400/3600 calories each, 1/1.5 pounds.
They last for 5 year years by Exp date, tastes normal 2 years after Exp. I have 20-2400, 10-3600.

I rotate sardines, eat them couple times a week. I have about 40.

I've been slowly adding spam to my collection, 15 cans. Canned soups as well 10. 6 large jars of peanut butter, bags of rice, canned fruit.

Over all I have enough calories and nutrition on hand at all times to last over a year at 2,000 calories a day.

For water, I need to get more static storage but I live between two very healthy creeks that have never been dry in 18 years. I keep 2 sawyer filters ready to go, a third for camping.
Another 20 gallons in a tank, need to rotate it this week end probably. 10 gallon jugs of poland spring.
Tang mix, Powdered drink mixes.
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>>39129057
>>39129161
Are ration threads not acceptable on /k/ anymore? But patch threads, milsurp threads, and are shotguns relevant threads pop up every day
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>>39128906
Mountain house
one full menu of US Army MRE
Rotate out foods I will eat - canned/fresh
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Like two boxes of Real Arctic Field Rations
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>>39130206
Mind giving me a rundowon on those meals? What kind of mains and sides do they have going on?
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>>39128906
Glorious Spam
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>>39130383

I've always wanted to try the Teriyaki version but I've never actually seen it in a store.
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For you preppers out there, what do you store water in? I buy extra cases of water just for an unplanned inconvenience type emergency, like a multi day power outage but i was thinking of storing something more. Maybe those 5 gallon water cooler cans
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>>39128906
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>>39130313
Well a day ration is less than two pound and has about 4000 kcal
It consists of two main meals and a breakfast pack
One pack (picture) consists of a dry freezed meal and a lot of small things like chocolate, beef jerky and drinks
All of the food tastes really good, you only need water, a jetboil and a spork
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>>39130383
The cans are too much for a single single person, but are great of you have 2 people to feed. I opt for the 99 cent single packages because it’s a very well proportioned serving.
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>>39130488
That looks like a really high quality ration. How much did the case set you back?
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>>39130501
Don't ask, way too much
https://drytech.no/de/webshop/
But the quality is top notch and they taste great
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>>39128906

Two high priorities:
- rice, pasta, oatmeal and frying oil - stuff that gives a lot of food when water is added. Also salt and sugar.
- cans of tuna, mackerel, beans, tomatoes, pears - protein and vitamins.

After that it's stuff that is cheap and/or freezedried. Soup base, coffee, tea, basic herbs.

I try to avoid stuff that can't take at least 3 years of storage, and rotate the oldest stuff back into my cupboards.
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>>39130407
It tastes just like Terayki just really soft and chewy goes well on rice
>>39130494
Fun fact there are 6 servings in one can of spam which Costs $2.64 at a store
it costs between $0.98 and $1.04 a piece which total up to $6.24 for the same amount of spam in 1 can.
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>>39128906
>ice cream sandwich
>melts in 60 seconds
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>>39130561
I figured it would be something astronomical
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>>39130583
I get that, I pay extra for the convenience of prepackaged single meals
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>>39130583
>Fun fact there are 6 servings in one can of spam which Costs $2.64 at a store
>it costs between $0.98 and $1.04 a piece which total up to $6.24 for the same amount of spam in 1 can.

Yeah, the added cost sucks but this way you don't have to try and store the half a can's worth of opened potted meat you didn't eat.
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>>39130422

I have a few cans. One 5 gallon. It's okay but if I needed to go places to refill it it's a bit unwieldy. Half that size and you can tell anyone to carry it to the truck while you move something bigger. I'm considering getting a 50 gallon tank for collecting rainwater - the trouble is, we have real winters here. If left outside that water will freeze and the tank crack.
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>>39130594
Freeze dried
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>>39130608
>puts 2/3rds of spam in fridge
What is the problem?
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>>39130594
>>39130625
And actually darn tasty too. Ate a few on my last camping trip
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>>39128963
The brown MRE on the top left, with the picture of the guys at the camp fire, what era is that from? 1990s? I have one and I don't know how good it is. It's the Hamburger Patty one.
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>>39130636
It’s a problem if circumstances prevent the use of refrigerators
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>>39130561

Incidentally. (Fellow norse here). If you go to a sports store and buy a Real dinner bag, just the main course, they start at about 8 dollars. That is more than the price for a pack of five fresh/thawed pork cutlets down at the grocery store. Sports food is insanely overpriced here.
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>>39130648
2013
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>>39130650
then I will put in a plastic bag and suck the air out with a straw and put it in my kit!
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>>39130578
This is how I have mine but I've added the ramen noodles, also tins of vegs. Always grabbing stock when Im out and spot it cheap and rotate it out but it usually has good dates on it. Ideally I have at least 3 mths supply on hand. Trouble is with water, bulky.
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>>39130578
Also have meds, disinfectants, bandages, sewing kit, anti biotics, books cards and board games coz never know
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>>39130652
I'm a mountain Jew, not a norse, everything is overpriced here so I don't really care
And before you ask, we have the Real food in our military which is why I know the product
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>>39130681

Ramen noodles are cheap and come with flavors and fats, can be eaten dry, and stores well (although I am not so sure about some of the sauces. On the flip side they are low on proteins and vitamins, come with a shitload of salt, and the storage volume is huge compared to how many calories they are worth. Space is key for most preppers and I'd rather use the same space for rice or spaghetti. Actually the needed volume of a bag of noodles is bigger than a can of tuna, which is in the same price area and has much more protein and vitamins.
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Real SHTF anons have seeds... post seeds
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>>39130681

Water is a problem in more than a few SHTF scenarios. In theory I have access to lots of clean water, but my kits also include some water cleaning tools, of which I consider the most important to be the purification tablets. They give about a gallon of purified water per pill after a couple of hours and kills off most germs. A little bleach, even a bag of salt, can also come in handy.
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>>39129031
Aww man, I was in that thread. Thanks for the memories.
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>>39128963
>no beef strauganoff
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>>39129004
Civi MRE's dont have nearly as many calories. I know this because I almost died on a backpacking trip thanks to them not giving me enough calories for the activity I was doing.
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>>39130916

You didn't read the calory data on an MRE you brought on a backpacking trip?

A military day ration MRE is in the area of 3500 calories. An emergency MRE of the type handed out by UN in humanitarian aid is just 2200 calories. A civilian MRE that says it is 'combat' may well contain 3000+ calories but not necessarily of the type that is optimal for your burn. Sugar for instance is high carb and little else - but it sure helps on that calorie count on the package.
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>>39131047
I’m betting he was being picky
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>>39131047
>A military day ration MRE is in the area of 3500 calories.
Nonsense.
A standard MRE is about 1200.

https://m.goarmy.com/soldier-life/fitness-and-nutrition/components-of-nutrition/meals-ready-to-eat.m.html
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>>39131168
He said day ration as in 24 hour ration. Ex. First strike rations
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>>39131206
Sorry, I missed that. Day ration =/= MRE. two very different things.
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>>39131206
Yeah, but who the fuck can afford a years supply of first strikes
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>>39130383
>Tocino

The only store I've found this at has it at 6 bucks a tin. Worth it?
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>>39131330
Not a lot of people desu. I was just pointing out the difference between Day rations and meal rations.
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>>39131352

Spam is low quality meat. Compare weight/price ratio with that of tuna, which also comes in more practical sizes for one person.

That said, a tastier emergency storage is easier to rotate and eating nothing protein rich but canned tuna can go on anyone's nerves after a few weeks. A little variation will do you good, if you can afford the room.
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>>39131443
I have retort pouch tuna, spam, chicken chunks, salmon, tins of smoked oysters and some dried beef. Any other shelf stable items you can think of to reccomend?
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>>39130636
As long as you aren't storing it in the can it doesn't matter.
But the risks of leaving food in an open can can run from making it taste weird to leeching tin into your food (this will make you sick as fuck) to botulism (far less likely than the previous but still possible).

This is also assuming you have power in your fridge. And since this thread is about stockpiling rations, I'm working from the assumption that we're either /out/ somewhere (in which case cans fucking suck ass anyway) or the grid is down.
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>>39131473

Salt. It's stable and has multiple uses.

I've been trying to figure out what kind of spreads that'll store well. I've experimented with nutella-like products and found that they get slick and oily and not very appetizing really, even if they don't start to mold. Peanut butter seem to do okay but I have not tried storing that for long enough yet to tell. Chocolate which contain milk powders, which is most of them, are a distinct no go. High percent cocoa chocolate has more potential and I am considering putting some aside in an airtight container for experimenting. But what really, really has potential is honey. It is known to last practically indefinitely if stored dry and the containers it is sold in are airtight. In addition to being a sweetener it's also a very good antibiotic and wound healer. You can also check out what raisin boxes are available at the grocery; they last amazingly long as long as they are kept away from humidity and some of the brands are sold in plastic bags inside the cartons. Even if they get harder after a year they'll swell out as soon as they are put in water. Quick food, nice sweetener additive, full of vitamins and fiber. And incredibly cheap.
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>>39131473

Also you need oil. It will be vital for your frying and any baking you'll do (as it replaces butter) and you can also use it on bread instead of butter or other spreads. I use rapeseed oil but there are other alternatives that do the same job but taste a little different. As long as the bottle is kept out of sunlight it should be durable for years and years. I have a couple of bottles that are three years old now without any changes; I rotated the oldest one recently and it worked just fine. Oil is also a remedy with many uses beyond foodmaking.
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>>39131629
I stock peanut butter and honey as well. I bought a tone of these honey sticks for a few bucks. These sticks are great to add to oatmeal or tea. I’m a huge honey person, at any time I have about 3 different jars open. My dream in life is to expand to where o can raise bees.
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>tfw always wanted to try an MRE
>tfw celiac
fug
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>>39129004
There is no difference outside of the caloric levels.

Civilian meals are designed for adults not in combat. MRE's are designed for soldiers in combat conditions. The soldier will always need more food in the field than a regular chump who is camping.
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>>39132608

Meh. On one hand the military MREs are made by civilian companies who also manufacture the same items for the civilian market under other brands; historically a full day ration could be made by a dozen different companies and some specific items could have many different manufacturers while containing and looking exactly the same. So a civilian MRE should be of the same quality as a military one, since the manufacturer wants to use the same machinery for both products.

However. The product offered a soldier is one he doesn't have to pay for. It will be designed for shelf life, durability and as complete a nutrition for a hard working person as can be achieved. The civilian product needs to appeal to the customer's taste, favorite snacks, and price. So this version will contain more yummy stuff, less of the most expensive stuff, more salt and more sugar - if the buyer isn't impressed he won't buy more of what is essentially novelty packed, overpriced normal food.
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>>39132608
Speak for yourself, bud.
I have an /out/ job and if I'm not eating 6000 calories/day I'm losing weight.
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>>39128906
mre desert cakes are pretty Himouto
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>>39130469
see
>>39129031
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>>39132697
Funny thing about freeze dried foods: they keep for an absurd amount of time.

Because I ate a Mountain House freeze dried Chicken and Rice meal from 2004 a few weeks ago. No issues were had.
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>>39130638
yep. can confirm. i only tried it them once. but damn it was way better than expectd. was pretty tasty
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>>39133129
Yea I bought it just to try it fully expecting it to be shit. I was pleasantly surprised
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>>39133129
>>39133158
Idea: grab one of those chemically activated cold packs and use them to chill either the water you pour into the freeze dried ice cream or the mix after you have already added the water.
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>>39133217
no. these are freeze dried ice cream sandwiches. its a fully intact ice cream sandwich. you dont add water. you eat them dry.
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I stock bullets, I'm taking everyone else's shit.
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>>39133356
Instead of cheaply and easily stocking food you think the best idea is to get shot sniffing around other peoples property. SAD
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>>39133387
Negative, it is now my property.
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>>39128906
First off. Armed. Got backup. Got cat with claws. I will respond to threats while not wearing pants and blasting 80s Ski movies music.
Secondly, pic and buckets-o-rice and beans. Powdered buckets of milk, egg, butter. 3 bags of flour and sugar. Most other items I have to restock every 3 years.
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>>39130469
i have one of those, it's filled with water though. >powdered lube is much cheaper
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>>39133419
Also mountain house buckets. Examples of what you will find.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIpfWORQWhU
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>>39133403
Good luck breaking into armed households
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>>39133356
but anon, isnt food more important?
i mean, you cant eat a bullet.
or,... well maybe
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>>39133445
Nope, lure people out.
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>>39128963
Tell me about how the Ice Cream Sandwiches work.
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Dry
>5 pound rice
>1 pound white bean
>1 pound brown bean
>3 packets Idaho potatoes

Canned
>4 cans SPAM og
>4 cans Campbell's chicken nudes
>2 cans Walmart chicken gravy

And some water. Anyone know good price on the regular tuna in water packets? The flavors are all a dollar but the normal tuna was like $2.50.
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>>39128906
Rice, beans, oats, flour, soup, canned tuna.
>>39128945
Where can I get cheap protein powder?
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>>39133474
Do you like 80s music?
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>>39128906
SPAM is over priced junk. You can get 6 cans of tuna or chicken for the same price.
And same for the ice cream sandwiches, but in addition they only last 3 years.
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>>39133255
I know that. The goal was to make freeze dried ice cream into actual ice cream complete with gooey coldness
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>>39133588
Spam is better than most canned processed meats out there.
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>>39133635
You don't need most.
You just need tuna and chicken.
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>>39130638
They’re pretty good
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Which peanut butter stores better, chunky or smooth? Also what kinda PB should I get? I'm partial to Skippy super chunk when eating sandwiches
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>>39133507
They don't. They're just astronaut ice cream with a dry wafer. Not bad at all, just not an ice cream sandwich. If I could choose, though, I would buy the mountain house cheesecake bites. Those things are pure sex.
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>>39133651
I've heard if the can is kept safe SPAM keeps indefinitely

Is chicken the same way? I've had 6 year old tuna and it tasted like ass
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>>39133777
Spam kept in a cool area will keep for a long time not indefinitely.

Chicken and tuna often have a 3 year shelf life. Spam will keep longer than that.
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>>39130583
Yeah the cost of the singles went up in my area or everywhere idk. They are now over 2 bucks when they were a dollar. I shoulda stocked up
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>>39133777
All canned foods last indefinitely, but at a certain point break down on a molecular level. It will not go bad because bacteria can't grow, but it loses all it's nutritious value.
SPAM is the same.
Certain dry foods (rice, beans, and oats for example) don't as long as they are kept dry.
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>>39128906
>tuna pouches
>Vienna sausages
>Spam
>peanut butter

Are you me? Hell I eat that shit when times are good.
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>>39133727
Taking a shot in the dark here but I would assume that smooth would hold out longer than chunky. I would think that the whole peanuts in chunky would go rancid faster since they are not processed as much.
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>>39133727
smooth. However since its made from nuts, the possibility it will go rancid is higher than other types of spreads.
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>>39133973
>other types of spreads

What is good? I can get a nice big pack of 30 year crackers
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>>39130783
3 big bags of assorted sprouting seeds here, and enough veggie seeds to plant acres. Two cases of SOS food bars, about 100lbs of rice, sugar, salt, spices, flour, oats, Peanut butter, canned meats/veggies, dried fruit, Berkey water filter and supply of water, tea and a load of ground and whole coffee beans etc.
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I've currently got 4 mre's and a case of water. Plus stuff in my pantry. I could probably "eat" for a week or 10 days, but not meals.

Saving up for a couple cases of "tac-bars," due to them actually having some protein/fiber/actual nutrients over the other lifeboat rations. Then slowly work on adding to the patry with more dry staples and store more water.
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>>39128906
bought a case of heater meals, one of civie sopackos, and a case of mil mres at an estate sale for $55 last weekend. the mres boxes looked okay so i didn't bother to do a julian lookup, and the heater meal had a july/20 out date. when i got home i remembered mres aren't a taxable item and when i looked at the heater meals again the box i checked was miss printed, the rest of them said july/2009.
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>>39133572
>Where can I get cheap protein powder?
Costco
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>>39133507
You just open and eat it, no prep required
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>>39131629
Peanutbutter is GOAT
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>>39133434
Great taste Anon
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>>39130620
Build a stone cistern.
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itt: neets with 25%+ body fat think ramen and packets of tuna and spam are going make them feel like they could handle a fantasy apocalypse
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>>39133125

Sure. I'm a fan of freeze dried food too. But it does come down to what components are in it, and of course how it is stored.
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>>39133356

You can be fairly certain that most of us who are stocking food are also stocking guns and ammo. We won't be looking for freeloaders but we will be planning for dealing with them.
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>>39138688
ITT retard who doesn’t think it’s a good idea to have food stored in the event of an emergency.
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>>39133522

Good one. I forgot about dried vegs. I have some boxes of dry green pease and dry yellow peas.
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>>39128906
Ammo that way I can kill people for their food.
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>>39133522

Tuna is available in a dozen brands. I can find them for 3 dollars a can, usually 1.50, but on sale they can be as low as 40 cents. Asian stores are usually offering the lowest price.
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Spam makes my wife flatulent
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>>39138969
thats a man
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>>39139033

Sounds like a massive storage. But you seem low on vitamins.
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>>39128906
>years worth of beans and rice
6 5-gallon buckets of rice
6 5-gallon buckets of beans
(above in mylar bags with oxygen absorbers)
>roughly a months worth of dry/canned goods.
Tuna, canned chicken, canned beans, chunky soups, pastas, peanut butter, saltines. couple cases of raman. I have have a bunch of extra stuff you'd eat anyway and I rotate stock as I shop.
>week of "quick food"
mountain house meals, mre's, cliff bars
>week of freeze dried food and cliff bars in BOB
>2 100lb tanks of propane and a stovetop that doesn't require electricity and a backup dual burner camp stove
>pressure cooker for beans
significantly lowers cooking time and fuel required to cook
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>>39139038
It’s not
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>>39139070

>>39139083
This guy. Tried to edit for spelling errors,
Yeah I have a years worth of multi vitamins and vitamin c supplements. I'm pretty paranoid. I could write you a page on my preps.
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>>39139070
samefag again

It's really not bad, it fits discreetly stored across a 3 bedroom house . The buckets stay stored as well as my "first week" food and supplies. It all fits under a bed. along with 10,000 rounds of ammo, batteries, water filter, etc. The month of dry goods takes up the cabinets in the kitchen. More than enough space if your at least a little bit organized.
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>>39139096

Vitamins in pill form are good and take little place. The only thing that concerns me is that I am not sure how well they store over time. A year sure, but three? Five?

Also a lot of the items on your list have a lot of sodium. Ramens in particular but also the canned meat , the soups etc. Even canned vegs contain some sodium. Even if you have vitamins you might want to have some canned fruit to balance the menu a bit. The dried rice and beans will do you good but I bet there'll be used some salt when they are cooked too.

And yeah, I'd like a link to that page. I'm not done learning in the slightest.
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>>39138969
>tattoo on her ass

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rJmoNlBjEE
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stocking never works for me. I get drunk and it them all.
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>>39139161

I rotate vitamins once a year. I get new ones and take last years over the next year. I'd guess the ones I'm taking now are 1 3/4 years old. Shrug. They feel fresh.

>>39139096
>I could write you a page on my preps.
I meant the list is exhaustive. I don't really have time to sit down and make a web page. If people are interested I could make a thread when I get home
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>>39139249

Right. Well, no hurry. But consider making a text on it some day. There will always be some detail a lot of other people had not thought of.

One medical webpage I checked right now say that vitamin pills should conservatively be good for two years after the expiration date, five years at most. Once they change color or physically deteoriate you should ditch them; they won't turn harmful but the effect will reduce considerably. Vitamin pills that contain oil, the omega this and that type, will probably not last two years as the oil itself goes bad.
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Any of you guys stock flour, or grain? I've considering putting some aside but I know flour is vulnerable. Grain takes a fair bit of work to make edible though - but I guess it can store for many years, right?
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>>39139869
Flour is good because you can make hardtac that’s a lifetime
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>>39140480

It is very useful. Of course. But flour also draws humidity and can get attacked by mildew. And if that happens it will be detrimental to your health, even before you can notice the damage with your eyes. I am curious as to how it is best stored. Back in ye olden days we stored grain and the main problem was that mice and rats could get to it. Flour is a different material. Go less than a century back in these parts and the mills made flour to be baked with directly. They didn't long storage the flour.
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>>39128906
>Tuna, in water.
>water
You dun goofed.
Packed in oil gives doubles the calories and marginally reduces the weight.
>Pic related
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>>39140745

Good point. Oil also makes the food easier to digest.
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>>39129045
Oh, sweet summer child
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>>39139869
>>39140628
hard white wheat will last indefinitely if you keep it dry and bug free, oxygen absorbers would be good too.

i bought a few of these pails and a hand mill when they were much cheaper, price seems to fluctuate seasonally.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Augason-Farms-Hard-White-Wheat-Emergency-Food-Storage-26-Pound-Pail/22001478
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>>39133572
better question is there a protein powder with a long shelf life?
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>>39130916

Great planning anon.
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I'm not really into long term prepping. But I tend to keep about 2 weeks of food supply at all times just in case. Sometimes this drops down to 1 week supply it if I start eating into it.

For me my food supply looks like a big bag of rice, bunch of cans of spam, tuna, sardines, and smoked eels. A couple packs of ramen noodles. Canned veggies and soups too. I also have maybe a half dozen US MREs (usually keep a few in my truck) and 2 or 3 ROK MREs left. I think those ones are expired now but they taste better than ours so I keep em just in case.

Those are just the non perishables I tend to keep around. I buy in bulk when I shop so at any given moment I have enough meat, eggs, and veggies in the fridge to last at least a week or more before I have to start eating spam and mres
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I've been thinking about buying a case of MREs just to have in case I need to travel somewhere. I have canned goods but and MRE packs better than a bunch cans. Or should I just stick with the camping type food they sell at the outdoor stores and wal mart?
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Rice, Beans, Ramen noodles, peanut butter, trail mix, bleach, water.
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the freeze dried camping food last longer than mres and are lighter, but for cost to calories canned foods are best by far





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