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Hey /k/. I'm new to the world of shotguns and I want to buy one. I'm not entirely sure if I want pump-action or semi-auto, but I'm leaning towards the semi-auto direction. Budget is under $1000.

I really hate those bead sights I see on some shotguns, and I'd like to have something with a bit of a proper sight or top rail to mount my own. I'm a Calicuck, but I'm absolutely willing to drive out of state to pick up whatever I want.

What are your shotgun suggestions?
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>>39404371
bead sights are perfectly decent you are just a faggot
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>>39404371
Any semi auto made by Beretta or Benelli is gud shit. The Beretta 1301 has iron sights, its reliable, its semi auto, and its under $1000.
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>>39404371
Mossberg 930 spx
My good friend bought one and I’ve put a bunch of rounds through it. I live in California as well so I can tell you for sure it’s compliant. After you get through the break it period it’ll chew through target loads just as well as buckshot. If you can’t tell i like it very much.
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870 MCS seems like a solid, fairly cheap option.
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>>39404371
pump is more reliable and more likely to be in your budget
bead sights are faster than whatever tacticool mall ninja bullshit you're talking about
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>>39404371
>semi auto
Stick with Beretta or Benelli, but a semi auto shotty and a budget don’t exactly mix too well a good bit of the time, depending on what your definition of budget is at least. Nothing wrong with bead sights either.
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Maverick 88 is a good budget shotgun if you're gonna go pump-action. Some people have issues with where the safety is, but I don't mind it.
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>>39404371
Grab a Mossberg 500.
That's like 200 bucks.

All you'll ever need.
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>>39404371
VR60s by RIA are right around $400
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>>39404555
Detachable magazine shotguns are banned in California I think. Not gonna work for OP.
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>>39404527
Redpill me on the differences between Mossberg and Remington pumps.
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>>39404567
SAD!
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>>39404577
Remingtons rust themselves apart, and Mossbergs rattle around a lot. Both have giant aftermarkets, and they both work. The Remington has a button safety behind the trigger, and the Mossberg has one on the top of the receiver. Both the 500 and 870 are made in the US, but the Mav 88 is made in Mexico.
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>>39404577
Remington has shit QC and overbuilt receivers due to the bolt carrier locking on the receiver rather than the barrel. Also the ejector on 870s is riveted in, which is a bitch and a half to change out the ejector that will inevitably break. In Remington's favor, the 870 has dual action bars that provide some redundancy in case the action bar fails for whatever reason, though failed action bars are not a common thing.
Mossbergs are lighter due to the bolt locking into the barrel, requiring a lighter receiver to function. The ejector on Mossbergs is held in by a screw and infinitely easier to replace. Mossbergs have only a single action bar.
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>>39404683
Mossbergs sound like the superior choice. Thinking about the 590 Tactical, but they have so many fucking models I'm not sure.
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>>39404577
870's that were build right feel way more solid but Feinberg destroyed the company so everything after 2007 is a dumpster fire. 88's and 500's feel cheap, 590 feels more substantial.
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>>39404683
>Mossbergs have only a single action bar.
Ummm no. Are you like 60 years old?

>Originally using a single action bar, that was known to bind and even break, this was changed to dual action bars in 1970, following the expiration of Remington's patent on the double action bar design.
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>>39404577
Remington = all steel
Mossberg = aluminum receivers

Remington's got a single extractor, Mossy two.

Remington's got the safety switch on the trigger guard, Moss on top of the gun, where your thumb usually rests.

You can easily replace the innards of Mossberg, since it's all tied with a flat-head screw. Mossberg ya may need to take to a gunsmith.

Mossberg tends to rattle, because of looser tolerances. This is normal, and not dangerous.

It's harder to swap mag tubes and barrels on Mossberg, thanks to the way those two are locked to each other.

Remington has a spring-loaded "gate" on the feeding access, to which your gloves may get stuck to. Mossberg has just one open hole.

I personally studied and tried both manufacturer's guns a few years ago, and ended up going with Mossberg.
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>>39404746
>You can easily replace the innards of Mossberg, since it's all tied with a flat-head screw. Mossberg ya may need to take to a gunsmith.
What did you really mean?
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>>39404852
derp, I should proofread my shit.
*REMINGTON ya may need to take to the gunsmith. Because it's machinery sits in the receiver in tad more complex way.
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>>39404746
You've not studied very hard. Either your writing class or your firearms class. Mossbergs have threaded-on magazine tubes and barrels twist into a notch. Part of the utility of Mossbergs is how you can have a few different barrels for different purposes.
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>>39405607
>Mossbergs have threaded-on magazine tubes and barrels twist into a notch. Part of the utility of Mossbergs is how you can have a few different barrels for different purposes.
Yes, well aware of this.
But BECAUSE the barrels and the magazines are threaded on each other in such manner, you need to always match them to each other. In other words, it's impossible to have oversized mag tubes, and in general if you want a bigger mag, you need a new barrel to match it.
On Remmy's side, you just swap em as you please, as the two tubes aren't tied to each other.
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>>39404371
$350 turkshit semi auto

this thing is mad fun and surprisingly reliable all things considered. highly recommended for shooting on a budget

pic related
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>>39404577
590A1 or bust nigga
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>>39404432
This. I got mine on sale a while back. I love it.
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>>39405705
this
I would take a 590A1 over any semi auto.
if I had the money thats what I would get.
590A1 marine if I had a budget of 1000$.
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>>39404371
>proper sight
you don't aim a shotgun, you point a shotgun

this>>39404415
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>>39404371
Bead is the fastest sight on a shotgun, faster than any scope or red dot or any other kind of irons, a bead is instinctual
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>>39406012
Beads are best if your eye lines up correctly straight down the barrel.
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>>39404577
Just to add to what others have said, the ergonomics are different between them. The shape of the grip, stock comb, and foregrip are different. It's not a massive difference but between that and the different center of gravity due to the receiver material they do feel a bit different when you handle and shoulder them. Fondle them both and see which feels more comfortable. If you can find a nice used one of either you can save a good chuck of money and in the 870's case you can avoid the trouble years. Also consider an H&R Pardner Pump (870 clone made in china, steel receiver and trigger guard) or a Maverick 88 (Mossberg's value line, parts made in Mexico with a different safety set up.)
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Ive had my mossberg 500 for over 6 years, and its taken over 200+ critters. Don’t get the 590a1, its heavy made to withstand getting slammed in ship doors. It’s as heavy as a fully loaded 500. Don’t even consider Remington. There are ghost ring sights on the 500 if you want, but I’d get rifle sights if i were to do it again instead of a bead, because you can use the front post like a bead
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>>39405952
No, you aim a shotgun, doublenigger.

>>39404371
Mossberg 590
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>>39404415
>bead sights are perfectly decent you are just a faggot

this
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>>39404371
mp153
I owned one
great gun
ran everything flawlessly
good value
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>>39404371
>I'm leaning towards the semi-auto direction
Then I would recommend the Mossberg 930. I have seen them going for under $700. I love mine, super fun to shoot. Cleaning it is kind of a bitch, though.
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>>39404424
those kind of sights usually are on rifled barrels to shoot slugs. pic related is prolly rifled barrel.
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>>39404577
>BOI
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>>39404371
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>>39408803
Nope, tactical shotguns are smoth bore, but the 1301 has chokes of 2018.
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>>39404746
>Mossberg tends to rattle, because of looser tolerances. This is normal, and not dangerous.
>because of looser tolerances

This is not the case. The Mossberg rattle is because the Mossberg has a aluminum receiver (which everyone knows) but the action bars are steel. Steel is harder than aluminum. To prevent the steel action bars from damaging the aluminum receiver they put a large clearance, NOT tolerance, in the holes in the receiver that accept the bars. This is so contact between the bars and receiver is minimal.

Source: me, current guardian of a 25 year old mossberg 500
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>>39408949
Is it wrong I actually kinnda like the way that shotgun looks?
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Remington model 11





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