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I came here from /pol/ to try lecturing you tranny faggots on the errors of your ways and am at an impasse. you faggots are more depressed than i ever imagined, basically all of you want to an hero. wtf.
I can't believe i'm actually starting to feel sorry for you faggots. If you are so unhappy being trannies that degenerate chasers use as cum dumps, then why can't you at least look for solutions to break out of the cycle. nigger. I don't want to beat someone when they are down. i don't punch below the belt.
If transfagotry is so depressing, why is non of you trying to break free and why do you get so butthurt when we point out that transfagotry is mental illness?
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woah... i never thought about it that way... thanks op... opened my eyes...
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>>11052866
Just take your pills, Alice.
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>>11052866
you are right, its a mental illness, a neurological one.
what to do about it?
transpeople suffer from a neurological condition called gender dysphoria, and currently the best available treatment for it is transitioning. like other neurological illnesses it never fully goes away, because there is no cure. only a treatment for its symptoms.

would you tell a schizophrenic to not be crazy and blame him for it?
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>>11052866
I'm a happy, well adjusted tranny. I can take the heat, /pol/. Give it to me straight. If it's politics you're interested in, I'm a lifelong republican voter so you can't get me there. If it's the degeneracy thing, I can say at 33 that I can count my partners on one hand. Mutilation perhaps? You know, eunuchs live longer than intact men--15 years or so. You may say that I should be having white children, but we're supposed to be k-selected, yes? Outbreeding is not our strategy.
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>>11052866
please remove pic of whomever that is they have a nose like a pig.

>Y'ALL NIGGAS POSTIN' IN A TROLL THREAD!
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>>11052866
You can’t break free from gender incongruence, it’s a mental condition. The only thing we can do is transition, and the only thing making our lives hell is the crushing stigma surrounding us. If you people got over yourselves and fucking stopped giving a shit we’d be fine.
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Because I was even more depressed before I transitioned
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>>11052866
because being trans isnt a mental illness, gender dysphoria is but if you cure it by completely passing then how are you mentally ill at all? blaire white is a prime example
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>>11052959
>>11052976
>>11052980

>see
>>11052926

do not give attention to a turd you stepped in other than wiping it off and resuming walking hey?
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>>11053005
But we like /pol/.
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>>11052889
The problem is i don't see transitioning as a happy solution. Most anons here seem to have realised that GRS is fucked up and so have gone with "boymodding".
Anon, i honestly want the best for you, i know there must be a way out. why chose a life that is so depressing an can unironically be labeled as suicidal.
>>11052907
No attack in this post but is think you are coping and would have been a happier person if you didnt have "dysphoria". Even if by some chance, you were not lying to yourself and to me, your mates are unhappy as fuck. Even if 1 out of a hundred trannies actually came out happy, it would still not justify letting the other 99 go through hell. if you refute that logic then you may be a bit selfish.
>mutilation
Anon, please don't defend this, you know you'll lose, and i'll probably come off as a hateful transphobe.
I'm not really even a 1488er, i would still be trying to help you if you were tyrone fag.
Guys will only use you as a fuck toy then leave, even if you manage to hook the rare guy who'll stay for a few years, he'll still live after and leave you older and lonelier
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>>11052866
>have you tried not be a fag?
Yes....
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>>11052959
The reason i "give a shit" is because i care and don't want you to throw your lives away
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>>11053024
My last boyfriend was sweet, at least for a while. We were together for 6 years. I was the one who broke up with him, as he grew increasingly controlling and paranoid. Reminded me too much of my father. It's a strange thing when your insecurities drive people away. I recognize the irony in saying this as a tranny.
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>>11052866
you're looking at 4chan OP what do you expect
its like me going to /r9k/ and going "wow straight people just wanna die and are completely unsuccessful at life" and using that sample to think about all straight people
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>>11052976
Anon, assuming an alcoholic is suffering from withdraw symptoms because he has not had his fix, when he gets it, he feels like heaven,
That doesn't mean that Alcohol is the solution.
Think more long term Anon.
I honestly wouldn't mind as much if it was atrend or fetish which you switched out of after a few years. you would have a chance to get cock craving out of your system and then build a bit of semi fulfilling life, but you are basically burning bevery bridge and taking a choice that everyone before you has regretted.
>>11052980
I love you faggy Anon, but i'm pretty sure blaire white will regret it in a few years.
I think a good example is porn stars, i wa watching the Linda lovelace movie yesterday.
The world thought her life was glamorous but it was hell & she fucking regretted throwing her life away.
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>>11053100
im guessing you are an essentialist so what do you think about gender dysphoria through an essentialist lens, seperate to people that do do it for a fetish or suffer from ROGD
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>>11053037
>How hard did you try Anon?
I know it's probably not easy and would be the toughest battle you ever faced but i know there must be others who succeeded. The problem is your "community" is so against such individuals and doesn't even let them speak, afraid that they would burst the bubble.
>>11053059
>i tread lightly when saying this
but could it be that you failed to submit to another man because,.....you know.....
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>>11053068
/r9k/ is specifically designed for wrecked individuals
/lgbt/ was designed for......lgbt... unless by your own admission lgbt are by default wrecked
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>>11053176
Just as a ruler must have the mandate of heaven, a man with authority over me is not beyond reproach.
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>>11053187
4chan is wrecked by default.
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>>11053153
Explaining my views on dysphoria would turn a lot of Anons off. The main point is it exists, is a problem, and it needs to be corrected.
Not by indulging it, but by fighting it at it's source and re-aligning yourself towards the old straight and narrow.
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>>11053210
Explain them pls
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>>11053210
Your heart is in the right place. You're a good boy, /pol/. I disagree with you, but I still like you.
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>>11053188
women are "hypergamous" in that females want mates that are stronger and wiser than them,even if i am to pander to your mindet that you are the same as any other woman, it would be really hard for you to get a man that you'd truly respect and submit to. reason being that their are apects were you'd be equal or superior to him and alot of what he did/thought would not be alien to you so you would be much more judgemental.
>>11053191
disagree. 4chan is a safe haven for various groups.
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>>11053210
have a discord or something where i could hear your views without jeopardising your thread?
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>>11053040
Who the actual fuck do you think you’re fooling here? Just admit to finding the trannies here insufferable.
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>>11053267
Just because you disagree with him, and even if he's probably wrong, it doesn't mean he isn't righteous. The road to hell is paved with good intentions, yes?
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>>11053250
>4chan is a safe haven for various groups
The main one being losers and incels. White supremacists flooding it in the past few years hasn't changed that.
/r9k/ wasn't originally designed for wrecked individuals by the way, it became what it is today because it's just what the userbase of this site is (not everyone though)
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>>11053256
Maybe another time Anon
>>11053267
Not really, After reading their honest thoughts i think they are simply in a deep hole, they don't know how to get out of (they don't even know if they should or keep digging till they come out of the other side of the world) and alot of society is just yelling at them to off themselves so their knee jerk reaction is to huddle together away from society & circle jerk each other hoping that some ray of hope is in the near future
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>>11053250
literally the only board populated with any percentage of well adjusted adults is /ck/ and when there theres a massive contingency of neets comparing Lays flavors and a general for comedically hopeless alchoholics
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>>11053307
So you are trying to convince trannies why they are wrong yet you wont even hear the other side?
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>>11053356
What other side?
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Am I still gonna get shit on by /pol/bois if I'm trans AND somewhat Right-leaning?
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>>11053578
Yes
We‘re trannies, we get shit on by them by default
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>wah people aren’t Turing straight after I call them degenerate faggots
>/pol/ taught me I could convert you all but it’s really hard
>this is everyone’s fault but mine
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>>11052866
I'm not that unhappy being trans. Only part thta sucks is not starting hrt when I was younger.
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>>11053600
eh, not really

/pol/ is filled with sexual insecurity. You're going to get shit on by some of them no matter what, but /pol/ gets shit on by eachother as well. /pol/ Christfags constantly get shit on, for example.

Like the rest of society, being accepted really comes down to
>do I pass
or
>do I at least look like a cute twinkhon
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>>11053729
/pol/ supports Trump and alt-righters like Sargon of Akkad, Ben Shapiro, Sargon of Akkad, Blaire White
All of them do oppose trans people and their rights
I’m not a SJW supporter and I don’t agree with people like Riley Dennis or Contrapoints but I’d never date someone who posted on pol, because being political nowadays means you have to follow one of the extremes
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>>11053310
>literally the only board populated with any percentage of well adjusted adults is /ck/
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>>11053578
this is the type of logic you stupid red tranners use to vote for a party that actively tries to take away our rights
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>>11053788
>Sargon of Akkad, Ben Shapiro
I don't know what you know about /pol/, but most of them hate these two, just for different reasons than you're expecting. /pol/ is entirely reactionary in nature. The only thing you have to do to make them more extreme is give them a little nudge that way. I'm sort of the same. A lot of the tranny hate is genuine, and it's really easy to hate them when you see caricatures of pedophile hons with #resist signs dressing 5 year olds in drag. But a lot of the hate also comes from insecurity and even self loathing, which I find to be cute.

>because being political nowadays means you have to follow one of the extremes
I agree. I also feel like I'm forcefully torn between two extremes, and it requires energy to stop myself from being pushed and remain more centered. Not saying I'm some kind of fence sitter, just that I have to intentionally try to stop my reactionary side from pushing me away from how I actually feel. I'm definitely a more conservative person in general and I voted for trump. We don't have to hate eachother even if we're radically different, unless you're like literal antifa tier, which you clearly aren't. Just know that if you dated a guy that was full blown sodom and gomorrah "faggots are %4 of the population and %40 of HIV cases" and he actually did have some sort of confused feelings for you, you could snap him like a twig. That's an extremely vulnerable type of guy, despite the exterior appearance.
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>>11053040
There’s nothing we can do but transition. Boymoding doesn’t stop the pain.
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>>11053100
But gender dysphoria isn’t acquired, it’s inborn. This is a false equivalency.
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>>11053187
The intention behind the design has fuckall to do with its usage. This is 4chan. People here are notably less well adjusted than the population at large.
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>>11053210
That’s called repression. You’re describing repression, which doesn’t work. Won’t you get it through your thick skull that repression doesn’t fucking work?
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>>11053310
The oragami board is pretty stable. More so than /ck/ anyway.
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>>11052866
Not transitioning is more depressing
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>>11053578
Yes & No, some poltards will try to fuck you, some will try to hate fuck you, some will try to convert you, some will tell you to kys, and some will let you be you as long as you side with them
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>>11052866
Nice LARP OP
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>>11054375
How is it a Larp?, i'm OP
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>>11053210
And what do you do, anon, when that hasn't helped after 30 solid years? When you've demonstrated time and again that you have more willpower than just about anyone, when you've watched your life turn to absolute garbage nonetheless because you literally cannot make goals for a future that doesn't exist (thanks, derealization), when you can't feel anything (thanks, dissociation), yet you so far have refused to off yourself and have survived more than anyone who wasn't there would even believe just to get to where you are, but even that amazing willpower that has carried you through so much is failing?

What do you do then? No drugs have helped, no liquor helped, no church helped, no therapists helped, no living online as a girl helped, no throwing yourself into your job helped....what's your answer then? At what point is it okay for me to stop fighting impossibility and live my goddamned life for the first time since I was about 6 just so others aren't offended by me?
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>>11054435
Blk straight /pol/tard here.(married)
I don't like trans, but if it would solve your problem i would have taken you into my home to be my "other wife".
>unfortunately i don't think this would really help you.
This isn't even some sexual fetishization, just wish you didn't have to go through a life like that.
I know /lgbt/ hates preachy talk, but i believe this is the only real solution. there are alot of phony churches out there,
mind explaining how "no church helped"
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>>11054396
>uses terminology only tranners use
>"hi I'm not from ___ community"
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>>11054165
Repression does work though. I've been repressing for 2 decades. It works. I'm not depressed or suicidal. It doesn't work immediately. Like everything, it takes time. You fucks are just so spoiled with your instant gratification.
>tried repressing for 3 days, didn't work
Do it for a year. I mean really repress. Don't entertain any notion of being feminine or female. You're not your mind, or your body. You're the thing that controls them. Make them work for you.
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>>11054897
>Do it for a year. I mean really repress.
I spent half a decade as a sincere Christian loathing myself. Full 100% repression does not work. It's a miserable existence.

Even if you don't transition, you need an outlet. You need to indulge just a little bit at least to not feel like complete shit, even if it's shitty AGP fantasies.
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>>11054893
Maybe because i spent enough time on this board .
I have an empathy towards you and frequent this board only after /pol/. Regardless of the disagreements i have with you, there is a goldmine of info/perspective and knowledge,

Why am i even defending myself, you do realize it would paint a worse picture for your community if it was atranny attackingthe trans lifestyle
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>>11054936
This nigger gets it, i don't even want to use the term repressing, That makes it seem like you are stiffling something that is naturally supposed to come out. A better word would probably be "overcoming the urges".
it's not easy, but it's possible. Ask someone who has been a crazy fapper then goes no fap.
It's probably not the same thing but there are parallels
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>>11055082
>that makes it seem like you are stiffling something that is naturally supposed to come out
I think you need to reread my post. That's basically what I'm describing, even if I might prefer words like suppression or abstinence. These desires are pretty innate.

There is nothing wrong with engaging in this behavior if it makes you happy and I think it is harmful to NEVER engage in it when you truly want to. Especially not if the only motivation you can find to stop yourself is self hatred. It's not good to live like that, but you don't need it to consume your life either if you can help it.
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>>11054712
>blk straight poltard
Be still my beating heart, holy shit
I would have gone for that too. As for how no church helped, I was born and raised in a conservative (fundie) Christian church and my own uncle is a well-regarded preacher in the faith worldwide. I tried sublimating through church for years and years. When that didn't work I went on a tour-de-force through over 30 other denominations and non-denoms looking for faith, hope...something.l When that didn't work I turned to Satanism, and eventually the occult.
I knew I needed to transition, I'd known since I was 11 but I couldn't so I had to try to make it somehow. I threw myself into everything I could but nothing worked, not even for a single day.

But I finally did transition, and even at my age its going amazingly well. Its always hard to see people saying 'oh you should have tried (thing) and thing is always something I've already done only to find that at least for some of us, its just not possible. I'm over 40 now and only now can I even ~begin~ to live my life. Anywys, hope that answers your question.
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>>11052866
Consider that just about no one here has transitioned, otherwise they would probably complain about things on other boards. /adv/ exists for a reason. And yes, of course I know this is a bait thread. Fuck off and stop shitting up the catalog
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>>11052866
Lol I would so go back to pol but i honestly don't care. I am a mtf pol tard so who gives a shit where you post.
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>>11052866
>just break freee maaan

o shit. it really is that easy isn't it op! thankyou, that snapped me right out of it!
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>>11052866
seriously though, if it was really that easy don't you think we'd all do that. I literally had a moment a could of years ago when I was considering transitioning where I had a really deep internal dialogue about it and came to the conclusion that the best thing to do would be to live out my best life possible as a male, accept the physical reality of my body and repress.
>it 'worked' pretty much for the last 3 years or so,
>cut my hair,
>tried to be as much of a regular lad as possible (not very possible as it turns out) at uni,
>became very outwardly stoic and chippy to the world, 'inexplicably' depressed on and off - sometimes for months at a time
>couldn't bring myself to care about my life/ future/ career/ course/ coursemates because I felt like I was living a fake life, acting a persona that I didn't want to play
>he was a dick, didn't know who I was, constantly feeling an imposter
>end up fucking up lots of friendships, relationships, my studies (and therefore career) as a result
>depresses me even more, but feel weirdly indifferent because it's almost like it's not my life, like a character in a movie
the irony is, had I come out, I would likely have been very easily accepted by my peers, looking back it would have been a good time to transition. But I didn't want it to be a thing that the cool art school kids™ would fetishise me (non sexually) for, I didnt want to make it my entire life and identity.
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>>11055850
I tried to 'break free' as you say, but it didn't feel like breaking free, it felt like imprisoning myself, forcing myself down, and playing the part of someone else. for the record I still haven't really come out/ started hrt or anything, but I've found myself dressing more feminine over the last year & acting more like it (at least consciously) over the last few months. Had an existential crisis recently and have internally accepted at least that I'm not that person, maybe not that i'm a girl trapped in a girl's body or w/e, but transitioning maybe the only way to actually give a shit about my life / goals going forward
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I'm not depressed even a little.
In fact, I get a little excited whenever I think about your disgusting fat face, tongue lolling out of your disembodied head as it rolls away from the guillotine platform.
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corrections
>>11055850
*couple not could
>>11055874
*girl trapped in a boy's body or w/e
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>>11052866
Genius, I can't wait to try just not being trans
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>>11055414
Then it's probably beyond my jurisdiction to try advising you. I f nothing else, i hope you find happiness. I hope you find some sort of peace.
>also side question. What are your thoughts on new era trans(<25). It would seem that the incentives to transition today are way higher than say 15 years ago.? alot of them seem to be transitioning almost on a whim.
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>>11053020
No. We don't.
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>>11057695
thank you for the kind words. As for the side question, I've had a shifting stance on it as I learned more about it. Given my background i tend to have a slightly more conservative view on some things initially, but try to be observant to see if they hold up well to scrutiny. At first I was kind of annoyed; I mean, I went through hell to end up where I am now. I was kind of miffed that people were just claiming to be what I was without any medical problems or anything.

Then I realized that ultimately that probably isn't true as I really have no idea what they're going through, and half of them/us probably dont realize what ALL we've been through, and even if it were it doesn't matter. All things change, ncluding what we go through to become trans. The future seems to be one where we're going to select our body parts at will, and I'm frankly just fine with that (seriously, I'd sign up for mouse features in a hot second just because mousegirls are cute af, and I'm a full androphile). There'll be some rough spots along the way but ultimately I think most people are just people trying to do what they think will make them happiest, and who the actual hell am I to tell them they're wrong or shouldn't do that? So I'm pretty much in favor of people doing what they wish with their bodies. Two hundred years from now this whole era will be a footnote like all the pains and trials of the French Revolution are now, so why make people suffer just to be ultimately forgotten? I can't justify that stance, and if I could I think I'd hate myself.

I think if we let people be people, society will shake itself out in the long run and we'll all be better off for it.
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>>11052866
Fuck /pol/ so hard

Immature manchildren neckbeards living in basements that smell like catpiss.
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>>11055422
That's another thing, if most of you are "boy-modding", then why would you shill for other insecure anons to go all the way?
>>11055473
I would probably be preaching to the choir here, so i'll leave the others back home to handle you..
>>11055677
No one said it was a piece of cake, the thing is, if you realize it is a mental problem and a recipe for sadness, then why are you all shilling for more trans and no one advocating for stopping it.
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>>11057739
So basically even you have a gut instinct rejection of the current trend of trans but decide against being against it because
a-it would seem hypocritical and
b- futurism will make it all moot

One issue which i wold probably take if i was in your shoes is that if any one can transition lightly, then one obvious conclusion is many will later on decide to de-transition and give trans worse optics. These same individuals will be probably be the biggest anti-trans tools since they will be an argument you can't easily go against. Once they regret and have gone too far, they will be an example of how transitioning ruins life.and will be proof of how repressing to the end is the safre solution
also
>I think if we let people be people, society will shake itself out in the long run and we'll all be better off for it.
remember Weimar republic, and how that society "shook itself off" with hitler
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there’s nothing happy in my life, even if i were a boy. i’ve got no future, i’m gonna be stuck working at a grocery store until i die, i can’t raise a family, no one wants to date me (that was true before i transitioned) like what am i supposed to do but live because everyone took my gun away
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>>11052866
Fack u
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>>11057878
Keep one thing in mind about most detransitioners - these people arent going through teh gatekeeping channels usually, theyre using IC, And the number using IC isn't likely to be majority those who regret it. I think in the long run itll be viewed like alcohol - voluntarily done, so less sympathy (in terms of detransitioners/'ruined my life' types).
As for the Weimar Republic there were a lot of confluences that led to that. Its possible it could happen again, but less likely I think. Its a lot harder for fear and propaganda to spread itself ~in the long term~ (key words there) with a global communication system to provide counterevidence. Half the country recognizes us as a legitimate phenomenon in one manner or another, which is well past Buchanan's Tipping Point.

I'd rather not see it come to anything like Weimar, but on the off-chance it does I can't really do anything about it. Suppressing rights out of fear is among the single most cowardly thing a person can choose to do or support imo. Even in a worst-cse scenario, no matter how many times a Weimar situation repeats itself, it will fail eventually just like every other oppressive past regime that has ever existed has. It's only matter of time and pain.
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>>11057900
Chin up faggit, you're making my dick hard by being vulnerable.
What do you think would make you a happier person?
& why are you not working towards it?
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>>11057984
my life would be happier if i didn’t have bipolar and i’m taking enough meds to kill a dog to try to deal with it

my life would be better if people i date didn’t leave after six months. who knows what to do about that
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>>11057995
tough one Anon,try reflecting on why they are leaving you. If it is because of your character flaws then try fixing the parts you can fix.
Also, try not to let horny guys like myself simply use you as a fuck toy and then leave after cumming litres inside you.
If you wan't more than just quick fucks and are looking for a long term relationship, then try looking for someone who meshes well with you and is willing to put up with alot.
don't settle for chasers.
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>>11058067
i try to have real relationships but things always fall apart. i want a real boyfriend so bad
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>>11052866
>pol
Have you considered suicide?
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>>11058367
hahaha
/lgbt/ only second to /r9k/ in suicide risks.
telling /pol/ the ultimate chad board to consider suicide.
>get on your knees & open your boipucci more when being addressed by /pol/
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>>11058425
>/pol/ the ultimate Chad board
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>>11052866
>implying you wouldn't hump my leg, begging for release
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>>11053210
>Not by indulging it, but by fighting it at it's source and re-aligning yourself towards the old straight and narrow.

When your Ego and your body have different sex, life is miserable. This NEEDS to be corrected, or you will die by your own hand.
The correction can happen in one of two ways:
>change the Ego to match the body
>change the body to match the Ego
Always, every therapist always does them in that order. Always the first thing to do is try to make the patient comfortable with their body, and only, and always only when that fails does the body transformation start. Only after it has been concluded you can't "re-align yourself" with your body are you even permitted to start changing your body instead.

So you are unfamiliar with the procedure, and in outrage about something that doesn't exist. There is no race to change people's bodies, its a last resort. And because of that, only the worst cases get there, only the kind of people who are a millimeter away from suicide ever get to do that, the others are "fixed" at an earlier step. This is the last stop. You are bullying people who have tried everything else and have nothing left.
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>>11058660
>sorry had to rearrange this

not if you look like the guy in your pic.
>i know it might seem hypocritical but more passable mtfs are more tempting.
the person in the pic honestly doesn't even deserve to be called a hon.Anyone attracted to that is just baseline gay.
the top TIMs tempt even the most rigid conservative anti LGBT niggers.
your pic is just a guy in a dress more G than T
The mtf in my pic related however would make be more tempting to me





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