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What the hell is going on in our brains? Maybe neuroscience can tell us.

Previous thread: >>8941303
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>>8961657
First comment yay!
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>>8961657
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>>8961657
>What the hell is going on in our brains?
ETLE
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We are mad.
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>tfw /repgen/ is dead and it's only me and cure anon left
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>watch jurassic world movie
>get jealous of female main character, park director lady
>scene where she ties shirt, pulls up sleeves, you can see her tank top beneath and her figure etc
>the romance between her and guy

it hurts so bad, I want to be a girl so bad it makes me want to cry and kill myself, I just want it to stop

like god why me, it's so depressing and hopeless because no matter what I do I'll never be a girl and I'll never be happy and I just want to die
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>>8962308
>I want to be a girl so bad
Why anon? What's so great about being a girl?
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there's no such thing as 'repression' because there are no innate gender identities to 'repress'
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>>8962312
it's not a conscious thing I weigh out like "oh being a girl would be so great because x, y, z"

i've just wanted to be a girl for as long as I remember
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>>8962352
But why do you want to be a girl? Wants have a reason dont they
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>>8962279
I check in from time to time
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>>8962367
I have no reasonable explanation, literallyh just been like this forever
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>>8962378
How does the feeling manifest?
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>>8962385
Well when I was younger I would dream and fantasize about it constantly, and now I see girls my age and get jealous and also when I think about how I have no future and don't care about life because I'm not a gilr
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>>8962367
She said it's not something she has explicit, thought out reasons for. I think for a lot of us it feels for comfortable and relaxing to feel feminine. Being male is like an unpleasantness.
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>>8962308
Anon you are a girl silly. You just need to decide if you wanna repress or not.
We all have in some way. hell sometimes I feel like I repress my masculine socialization to closer match womens expected roles.
We all have to perform a certain way to meet others approval. But when I'm home I'm a beer drinking couch surfing makeup half smearing slob. When we are alone I think everyone is the same to some extent no matter sex or gender and if they are not they are faking for somebody else.
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>>8962389
>>8962391
I see. >>8962389 how old are you? If you aren't too old (<24) you should aim to transition desu
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>>8962426
Birth is too old.
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Tfw when successful repressor (outside of extreme agp and mild depression) till near nervous breakdown at 25, looking 35
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>>8962279
I'm still here.
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Spartan flip flopped again?
Didn't even last a week. Hopefully the edge posts have stopped, Amy seemed happier anyway.
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>>8962511
He stopped HRT for like a day or two, then went back on it.
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>>8962426
I'm fucking 24 exactly
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I've been away for a while. Is Amy still doing well?
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>>8962759
We had an Amy phase, then a Spartan phase for a few weeks, then we had Amy again, but Amy became Spartan again after a week or so, but after a couple days became Amy again. I'm not sure how she's feeling at this point.
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>>8961693
To answer the question anon asked yesterday

When I had my freak out I thought of all the times it didn't work, so I took my cypro and went to bed, and since it had been a week, I upped my dose so now I get e in the morning and e and night with no downtime


It feels wonderful...
There's no doubt in my mind now. I have a girl brain
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>>8962826
>I have a girl brain
Read MTIMB.
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>>8962826
>those pupils
that cat is tripping balls
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>>8962846
>MTIMB
What's that
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>>8962890
Men Trapped in Men's Bodies.
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>>8962915
first time hear.
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>>8962846
>>8962915
I don't read gaslighting material any more
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My estrogen arrives today. First ever experience of it.

This is it! My name will be Laura
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>>8962993
The author is a transgender woman...
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>>8963116
Appeal to authoring/authority
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>>8963122
No, just saying that it's hardly gaslighting trans people.
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>>8963114
Mtfg will always be waiting for you repgen. When you are ready. We will welcome you with open arms ready for you to blossom into the women you always were meant to be
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>>8963128
even if i transition i'm not going to that shithole
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>>8962915
Enough hrt gets rid of the man trapped in a man's body meme
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>>8963136
?
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>tfw no repgem gf to late transition with me
>tfw we will never take pills together and inject and cuddle and be there for each other
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>>8963158
How old?
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>>8962846
Read about modern neurology.. boy/girl brain is clearly an oversimplification but the intersex angle isn't.
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>>8963158
i mean never say never given you probably think 20 is old and i'm 24 ehh it wouldnt work anyways im almost as crazy as spartan
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>>8963114
I'm happy for you, Laura. I hope you feel better.
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>>8962758
Well shit, that blows anon. But 24 is an arbitrary number anyway. It's just a guideline and ymmv. You should still get on hrt for the mental effects
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>>8961657
GAY FROGS
ATROZINE
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>>8963445
If you're going to tell them to transition anyway why bother specifying the age? Just to make people feel like shit?
I guarantee this thread is older than the rest of the board
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>>8963789
because being on hrt isn't the same as transitioning. just stay in boymode
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>>8963817
This morning when I woke up, I just had a realization that since I will be on boymode rest of my life(I don't pass), I will be lonely forever. It hurts to think about my future.
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>>8963200
>>8963417
26
Im crazy also. Lets be crazy together~
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>want girlpills
>family would IMMEDIATELY know
wat do
no, I can't move out, not for a long while
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>>8963877
you can find someone
you just have to try extra hard
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>>8963877
same, but I got over
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>>8963877
Im literally retarded with a lifetime of child abuse. I honestly wish i were dead.

My brother died of a heroin overdose. Well he took heroin than woke up in an ambulance and told me death was the most peaceful thing ever. I honestly cannot wait until death. I dont see myself surviving until 40. Im going to kill myself i can already tell.
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>>8964124
For what it counts I hope you don't. I hope you find happiness.
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>>8964129
I wouldnt even know where to find heroin or elephant tranquilzer tbqh
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>>8964124
I felt the same way, except I thought I'd be dead by 34.
Here I am now after 3 suicide attempts at 54 trying to see something positive in life.
Suicide isn't as easy as it looks.
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>>8964151
You've been repressing a really long time. Do you regret repressing so long? Do you think you had a chance to do something different?
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>>8964151
Yeah i know the feel i'm pretty sure i'll get a gun and end it by 30 though
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>>8964181

I haven't been repressing.
I transitioned in my 20s but never really passed.
Never had the white picket fence or the loving husband that I'd dreamt about.
But I have had a good life and I don't have any regrets.
Now I just live life one day at a time and try not to let the little things get me down.
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>>8964151
I honestly think if i ever get the chamce id kill myself

I just need to get in contact with a nice lad that sells elephant tranquilizer
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>>8964233
>Never had the white picket fence or the loving husband that I'd dreamt about.
: (
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>>8964242
diff anon here,
i know i can do so much more as cis
family, house, career, friends
vs
living alone w maybe a friend or two, and just getting by on other people's pity
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>>8964242
It's fine.
Some of my close girlfriends had it and are now divorced, so I think that may have been harder.
You adapt to single life.
And I have had some great sex with some hot men, just nothing that ever lasted for more than a few years and nothing that was ever really intimate.
I blame myself for a lot of the relationship failures.
I wish I'd gotten therapy sooner to identify my self-defeating behaviors earlier and have the tools to deal with them.

Just because I failed doesn't mean you will.
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>>8964248
i don't even get pity.

>>8964258
>Some of my close girlfriends had it and are now divorced, so I think that may have been harder.
tis better to have loved and lost.

>Just because I failed doesn't mean you will.
i'm repressing.
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>>8964233
That's unfortunate that you've been feeling suicidal after transitioning so long ago. I'm almost 50 and transitioned in my early 20s. It's not often I run across someone on 4chan or anywhere really who transitioned such a long time ago like I did, especially on /repgen/. I haven't found a husband either, though you never know, there's still hope.
You should be glad that you didn't wait until your 40s to transition, so there's that. Are you feeling better since the attempts?
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>>8964270
>i'm repressing.

I don't necessarily view repressing as failure, it is just a different path with a different outcome.
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>>8964509
Hate the egg meme
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>>8964602
It's kinda true but doesn't apply to us >>8964634
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Is their a discord for /repgen/?

I usually lurk but the non-repressors telling us to transition makes dysphoria stro ger.

I need a stream of repression dammit! No hugs.
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>>8964325
Could you post pics pls?
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>>8963903
>>8964233
>>8964602
Stop fapping, start living TM
Transitioning has no long term benefits TM
t. not cure anon but Amy who is transitioning into Spartan!! URAAAH!
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>>8964970
top kek
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>>8964970
Oh yes, what a wonderful factual spammer. Please tell us how we are delusional and living a lie. Ignore the fact that I would never want to masturbate because I hate my things. Wonderful.
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Plot twist, amy was cureanon all along!
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>>8964975
t-thank you.
>>8964979
>Please tell us how we are delusional and living a lie.
If you can't be stealth, don't be a hon. You will only look like a man in a dress and will eventually die alone. I know I will be a hon if I dont quit hrt. Suicide in honor or live as a man.
>>8964984
im Amy but Im pre-spartan who identifies as cureanon.
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>>8964953
No, not until I'm done with my weight loss program. I'm too thicc right now. Maybe I'll be willing to post some body pics in a few months if I look decent. I'll never post my face though.
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>>8963122
Ad hon fallacy
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>>8964334
what outcome?
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I want to die
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>>8964970
>>8964984
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>tfw working in neuroscience
>tfw actually fighting for a cure instead of spamming on 4chan all day
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>>8966476
Can your cure turn me into a lady
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>>8966480
No but hrt can make you into a facsimile of one
I'm helping the search for a curetard-style cure
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>>8966476
What you doing on 4chan, get to work
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I still want to date a repressor so we can transition/love each other
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>>8966508
Awe, ain't that adorable.
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>>8966508
>>8966525
I just started. I'll never judge you and I always see you as the woman you are.

Wanna date
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>>8966543
Sure but we have to cry with each other and we have to feminize each other uwu

Idk..i just really want to date a prehrt or just started since im too scared to start since im old
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>>8966486
that's the wrong sort of cure tbqh if no one makes me a lady by the time I die I will return to haunt you and trust me being haunted by a hon isn't fun
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>>8966616
It will be ok sis
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>>8966543
That would be nice, but I have some more things to sort out with life and a therapist before starting anything serious.
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>>8964970
Nice shitpost, Amy!
Have to admit I fukken saved this one.
That trap card, LOL.

>>8964979
I am factual. I'm a man of science.
Nice try, bitterhon.
>>>/mtfg/

>>8964984
There are many cureanons. Cureanon is more of an idea than a person. The very first cureanon doesn't even post on this board anymore, if you go back to the history of the cureanons.

>>8965021
There's no need to identify as cureanon, but if it makes you comfortable go right on ahead - A way better idea than transitioning, maybe you'll stop trapping yourself.

>>8965306
>hon fallacy
kek

>>8966470
>teemo
>>>/leagueoflegends/

Nice meme regardless.

>>8966476
That's awesome you're working in Neuroscience! It's a field in DESPERATE need of research. So thanks for your support in that regard.

In regards to me "not fighting for a cure" and just "shitposting on 4chan", everyone has their own way of fighting for the cure, and contributing to the fight.

Advocacy is very important, and without such the odds are this place would literally be nothing but /mtfg/ shitposting by this point.

Free and open discussion is one of the most important things to protect in a modern society.

I'm doing my part to help that. We all have different talents and skills to fight for the cure, and this is just one of them. I do other stuff outside of this board, which I won't go into for privacy reasons.

>>8966480
No.
Transition has no long-term proven benefits.
STOP FAPPING, START LIVING!

However, in regards to this there is more of a "cure" being researched in regards to turning into a "woman". While you can't wipe your memories of being a male, and you will always have male socialization, and feel like you're not truly a woman, and transition still won't work, there is research towards womb transplants, various ways of creating ovaries and the female reproductive system, and more advanced SRS techniques. Keep your eyes out.
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>>8966740
This is noise
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>>8966486
I'm not a "tard". While you may disagree with what I do, there's no reason to be a jerk

I fully appreciate anyone who gets into neuroscience, it's an amazing field to be in, but there's no reason to disregard what others do towards the fight for a cure.

Everyone has different "roles", as such in making a cure happen. Be happy you're part of the fight, but make sure to understand there's many ways of fighting.

>>8966508
AGP fetish fuel.
>>>/agpg/

Also, don't think about transitioning.
Transition has no long-term proven benefits
STOP FAPPING, START LIVING!
Don't trap yourself.

>>8966525
No. It's encouraging transition, and while it may be adorable to some, and to those who desire a relationship be a great fantasy(Fantasies feed your fetish and mental illness. AVOID.), it'll just encourage more people to trap themselves.

Don't fucking trap yourself.

>>8966543
>>>/mtfg/, or >>>/femgen/ if boymode only
Skittle pushing.

Repressors are not women, unless they choose to identify as and not take skittles, then they're very misguided and feeding their mental illness, but they're still repressors in my book.

The second you swallow a HRT pill by choice or by your own mental illness, you're not a repressor. Transition has no long-term proven benefits.

However, if you choose to detrans, you can regain your repressor status.

But Rule 1 of repressing: If you're taking HRT, YOU ARE NOT REPRESSING.

>>8966706
Stop being lost in magic-tier fantasy and delusion. It's the #1 way repressors turn into bitterhons. I'd reccomend a focus on hard objective logic, as us AGP/Trans/Dysphorics tend to get stuck in the fantasy hole way too much. Me included, and I rarely fantasize due to fighting against it but it still happens sometimes.

>>8966734
>>8966736

>>>/mtfg/, bitterhons.
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>>8966747
Kek - I love you surveyanon shitposters.
Even if you're shitposting at someone else, you're always taking the piss out of surveyanon's bullshit.

Well played.
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>>8966740
No, sorry. You're like some christfag saying "you're in our prayers" and then claiming they're helping just like the red cross. You're not doing shit.
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>>8966867
Fair enough.
Stay bitter, as long as you're helping the cause I don't care.

I'm not a christfag. Nor am I like one.
I'm a man of science. Nice try, bitter one.
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Repgen...

I want to be a Muslim woman
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>>8967007

Move to Iran.

There are countless reason to repress if you can manage it:
- less social troubles
- no stressful coming outs
- easier dating
- you can't become hon
- no discrimination
- no expensive surgeries and constant visits to doctors
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>>8967010
What. But I want to become a Muslim women

Iran has sex change surgery
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https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=1672303674

Watch the whole thing
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Don't trap yourselves lol
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>>8967722
I wanna be a Muslim!!!! :(((
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>>8967722
Transition has no long-term proven benefits.
STOP FAPPING, START LIVING!
Don't trap yourself.
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>>8967753
>STOP FAPPING, START LIVING
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zL2akvpWJc
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>>8966760
Ah cure anon great seeing you, never really a mtf thread without you.
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Is repgrn slowly dying?
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>>8968059
it's slowly becoming transgen
which is good
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>>8968069
Why is that good?

Plan of action - repgenplease comment. I am mid twenties, hon tier face, I suppose ok body.
1. Try anti anxiety and anti depression meds
2. If that make me function again I can adjust to be unhappy
3. If that don't work permaboymode hrt
4. If face change greatly transition, if it doesn't boymode
5. If I just end looking like a freak 9mm
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>>8964970
>>8966740
>>8966760

Triggered as fuck. Crossdressing/TG parties and clubs are lit. Some are hons, but they're some of the sexist hons you'll ever see.

Just stop repressing, inject that estradiol in your veins till nipples become sensitive, and find a big butt big dick tranny to send you to heaven.
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>>8968069
I cried this morning with joy
Estrogen has me feeling emotions again

Trapping myself was the best thing I ever did
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>>8968063
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Stop fapping
Start having consensual sex

Hit the weights
Seek sunlight
Take a vitamin
Read your bible
Get a degree
Get a clue
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>>8968075
>Crossdressing/TG parties and clubs
> find a big butt big dick tranny
ew. I hope you get aids from there.
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>>8968190
>Trapping myself was the best thing I ever did
Me too.
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>>8969170
You probably have chance of passing I don't
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>>8969546
Me neither. I'm literally CWC tier.
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>>8968218
>Read your bible
Bad advice tbqdesu
You want to break the brainwashing, not reinforce it.
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>>8969998
>That image
>tfw I just want someone to affectionately kill me for good
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>>8968218
>read your bible
My parents do. No wonder why they hate me so much.
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>>8970180
Nothing in Deuteronomy or Leviticus even applies if you're not a Jew. Even the Jews except for the most orthodox don't even see all these things as strictly mandatory.
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>>8970483
>picking and choosing which parts of the bible to believe

Nothing in the the Bible even applies if you're not a Christfag. Even the Christians except for the most orthodox don't even see all these things as strictly mandatory.
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>>8970509
Deuteronomy and Leviticus were for the Israelites, not gentiles.
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>>8970549
And yet Christians include The Old Testament as Scripture and revere it alongside The New Testament.
Really makes you think!
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>>8970590
So?
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>>8970549
protip: the "israelites" refers to modern day christians. the jews have tried to convince people that they are the chosen ones by stealing the name for their country, but the ashekenazi were never one of the 10 tribes of israel. they are khazars.
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>>8970675
Old testament = old covenant
New testament = new covenant
Your protip is a real theological stretch.
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>>8970681

Ashkenaz is NOT from Shem bloodline, they are from Japeth's bloodline, and therefore NOT Semites.
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> they are khazars.
Even if that were so (which it is not because autosomal studies), Steppe People are more Euro than Sand People anyhow :)
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Come on repgem. Is cure anon only one who is still repressing
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>>8968190
Good for you Hon. Your young and andro enough to enjoy your feminizing body. Some of us older repressors aren't so lucky. So I found it funny how you'd bounce between Amy and Spartan, while some of us truly beastly repressors wouldn't even bother trying to transition. Its like T turns you to stone eventually.
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>>8971107
Tfw body could do but face is instant hom tier and look 10 years older
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>>8971105
The problem is that a lot of repressors break down eventually. Dysphoria tends to get worse over time. If you have only mild dysphoria that is tolerable, consider yourself lucky.
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>>8971105
i'm still here
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>>8971282
Are you the 24 year old? Where ya from?
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>>8969934
then why not just cd and have fun and keep your cis privilege
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>>8971319
I'm this >>8969170 anon, so I'm in this chain. CD was not a viable option because it had little to do with my being trans. I only occasionally tried on my mom's clothes before I decided to transition. Then I started building my wardrobe because I needed clothes to wear.
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>>8971319
Not that anon but i'm not too far off from CWCtier. I intend to CD in private eventually. I've always had strong transvestic fetishism.
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>>8971296
yup always been here always will be and i'm from the united states
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>>8971269
It has become living hell in last few months. I lasted just enough to become hon tier
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>>8971523
I know the feel if I just broke down like 2 years sooner I would've been a lot better off. When did you start?
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>>8971549
I didn't started yet. I am 25, and I will be 26 when I will most likely. I will probably just do perma boymode.
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>>8971576
I started a month before 25 because I told myself I would end up killing myself if I didn't start before 25. I'll be boymode forever though.
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>>8968045
I'll always be around to spread the truth, anon.

>>8968059
It's getting shilled to fuck, is the problem.
/mtfg/ is trying to hostile takeover this place.
I won't let them.

>>8968069
>>>/mtfg/, bitterhon

>>8968073
Boymode HRT is not repressing.
Don't trap yourself.
It's good to /mtfg/ as they hate repressors.
We go against everything they stand for.

>>8968075
Shitposting. Don't seem like a bitterhon, so
>>>/trash/

>>8968190
I feel emotions every day, extreme emotions even, without HRT. Don't trap yourself.

You'll be back. Spartan.

>>8968246
I don't wish bad things on anyone.
But shitposters need to get out.

>>8969170
Shilling.
>>>/mtfg/

>>8971105
I'll never stop fighting for the cure.
You can always rely on me to be here for real repressors.

>>8971107
T is a gift. We must appreciate it.

>>8971269
I had pretty bad dysphoria at one point.
Then I chose to better my life.
STOP FAPPING, START LIVING!
I am lucky, indeed. My dysphoria still grows slightly over time. But I'll manage.

Transition has no long-term proven benefits.

Even if you brrak down, trapping yourself doesn't work.

>>8971282
Good to hear it. Keep on fighting!

>>8971523
Keep on fighting.
Transition has no long-term proven benefits.

>>8971549
>>>/mtfg/

>>8971576
Perma boymode is a meme pushed by bitterhons to make you trap myself. Don't do it!
>>8971587
Boymode HRT is not repressing.
>>>/femgen/, /hrtgen/, /mtfg/ for skittle shilling, not here.
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>>8971617
>T is a gift. We must appreciate it.
T is poison. Yuck.
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>>8971643
How is T poison, besides the lower life expectancy? It allows one to be strong physically, to have extra motivation and drive to pursue onr's goals, and makes one a man.
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>>8971689
Because they fell for the meme.
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>>8971689
>makes one a man.
Yes, that's the problem. Makes you feel like shit too.
I was getting some androgenic side effects from progesterone recently so I stopped taking that ASAP.
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>>8971695
True. Too many are falling for the bitterhon skittles meme. We must stay strong, never trap ourselves, and STOP FAPPING, START LIVING!

>>8971696
T doesn't have to make you feel like shit.
It's like most things in life, a tool that can be used for good or for bad. But it's what makes me a man, and I'll never trap myself like you.

>>>/mtfg/, bitterhon.
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>>8971689
>It allows one to be strong physically,
Tools and planning help compensate.
>to have extra motivation
Upping my estradiol dose improved my motivation and energy levels quite a bit.
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>>8971617
face it curehon
your attempt to drag down others with you is failing
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>>8971702
Skittle shilling.
>>>/mtfg/

In regards to your arguments, men can use tools and planning as well, as an augment to their physical strength. Not an argument.

Anecdotal bullshit, shilling, in regards to estrogen. [citation needed]

>>8971705
I'm not a hon.

I'm not here to "drag others down".
I'm here to better people's lives and tell the truth. Transition has no long-term proven benefits.

Trannymania as a whole is making a lot of people trap themselves. It's an unfortunate outcome, but it won't stop my fight. Even if I am the last repressor alive.
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>>8971713
I know I shouldn't be in this thread anymore because I am not wanted here but curiosity has gotten the best of me.

What do you recommend as the alternative to transition and to actually repress successfully?
I constantly see nofap being used but there must be more to not masturbating as it seems too vague.
The other advice of taking up new hobbies and interests is something that I support as it does help with coping but it should be done regardless if it will be of some benefit.
I want to know if there are specific things or techniques that I am missing and will help over a lifetime as it would be beneficial for those who choose not to go the other route.
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Either sex hormone in excess is deleterious to life expectancy among other things...meanwhile humans became less fertile than lesser primates (we have fewer offspring and greater investment in each offspring's development) and there is no 1:1 correlation between dimorphism and T/E anyhow because binding.
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>>8971763
There's nothing wrong with curiosity and legitimate questions. You're free to stay for this sort of thing.

The START LIVING! part includes finding a passion/purpose in life, bettering your life in standard ways like improving your health, going outside more if you don't, getting a job if you don't have one, anf so on.

In regards to ways to deal with the dysphoria directly, there's meditation, becoming more comfortable with your femininity but remaining a guy, NoFap of course, being more comfortable with your body and learning to like your body and appearance, finding your true real personality and self without swapping your gender and various other methods.

Manning up doesn't really work, and I wouldn't recommend it personally.

I highly reccomend reading as much alternative narrative content as you can find, stuff like blogs of detransitioners, Blanchard's typology regardless of your opinions on his work and so on.

Additionally, make sure you deal with your other mental illnesses that can be treated, stuff like depression is seperate and should be dealt with through whichever way you choose.

Also make sure to keep up with the science, and realize the truth: that transition has no long-term proven benefits.
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We should stop posting on /repgen/ until cure-retard gets bored and stops coming here.
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>>8971959
I'm not a "retard", and I don't post here out of "fun" or "boredom'. I'm here to inform and help people. You /mtfg/ shitposters really should stop posting here.

>>>/mtfg/, bitterhon.
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>>8971617
>tfw reading a cure anon post is like injecting T
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>>8971962
Hey cure anon you go to the ftm threads too or are you just concerned with mtf?
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>>8972303
You only have to gain from transitioning. Mtf is a painful trip that only gets exponentially more painful as time goes on.
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ENOUGH
MAKE ME A LADY
RIGHT NOW
REEEEEEEEE
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>>8972383
But did you started living and stopped fappingggg
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>>8972387
I did not.
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>>8972393
>Update
Bad bad. 2 years no fap is cure.
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>>8972402
I think I legit fapped, on average, once a day over the last 8 years.
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>>8971689
No one need T levels over 300. Testosterone can make your hair fall out, drives aggression, violence, sexual promiscuity, makes you smell, puts your your hear under extra stress, the Y chromosome alone makes you more susceptible to genetic conditions then having two X chromosomes.
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>>8972407
>your your hear
your heart*
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>>8972407
Yah just make everyone girls tbqh
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>>8972407
all lies, normal t levels are good for physical health and mental state
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I love visiting repgen once in a while to see the missouri in this thread. It makes me feel relieved that I took skittles when I was 16. Keep repressing sir. TruTrans never repress anyways~ <3
t. stealth 5'4 early transitioner
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>>8973056
>Cara
>Not a represser
ok
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>>8973059
I think it's someone larping as Cara. The style seems different and the filename atypical.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAbskL4vPYA

At least booze help a bit.
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>>8973083
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAApJ1nHX2w
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>>8973158
Awesome song from awesome album. Sadly to scarred to do it
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>>8973268
it's one of my drinking songs and yeah i feel you i'm too much of a coward to do it
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>>8973279
I am anon who did pros and cons two weeks ago. So you know my place
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>>8972159
I'm glad I have that effect.
STOP FAPPING, START LIVING!

>>8972316
[citation needed], bitterhon.
Transition has no long-term proven benefits.
>>>/mtfg/

>>8972383
No. Transition doesn't work.
STOP FAPPING, START LIVING!

>>8972387
They didn't.

>>8972393
>>8972402
>>8972405
Seriously, fapping feeds your mental illness.

>>8972407
Bullshit. 900 T here, and I'm happy I have that much. Wish I had more.

[citation needed].

>>8972417
Two sexes exist for a reason.
We should respect both, and also the >diversity

within said sexes, without trapping ourselves and taking HRT.

>>8972452
This. Transition has no long-term proven benefits, and Low T is known to have many negative effects on men (and women, actually!)

>>8973056
>>>/mtfg/, bitterhon

>>8973059
>>8973076
It's obviously a shitposter from /mtfg/.
Needs to go back.

>>8973083
Drinking isn't living, and I'd advise against ruining your health as a repression method.
HRT is probably better for you than alchoholism.

But at the same time, don't fucking trap yourself. STOP FAPPING, START LIVING!

>>8973268
>>8973279
Don't fucking suicide.
STOP FAPPING, START LIVING!
Transition has no long-term proven benefits.

>>8973292
There are no benefits to transition, but many cons and downsides.

Transition doesn't help dysphoria or improve your mental health.
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>>8975697
STOP SPAMMING, START HANGING!
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Op scores on online mental test:
Substance use disorder: 17/100
Major depressive disorder: 97/100
Manic episodes: 4/100
Bipolar disorder: 0/100
PTSD: 52/100 (strange cause I don't remember any event)
Anxiety disorder: 91/100
Panic disorder: 30/100
Panic attacks: 33/100
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>>8975961
Can i have the link?
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>>8975983
https://www.psychologytoday.com/tests/health/mental-health-assessment

Oh yes, anon who results are up is one who did pros and cons
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>>8975727
>>8975768
https://youtu.be/Of5cgecGIhg
Literally cureanon
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https://www.psychologytoday.com/tests/health/mental-health-assessment
post results
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>>8975727
Encouraging suicide? Shows how much you care about us repressors, /mtfg/.

>>>/mtfg/

>>8975768
I'm not spamming, and I'm not here to harm or hang anyone. Nice try.
Go back to where you came from.
>>>/pol/

>>8976053
Why does everyone think I'm some sort of religious preacher? I'm a man of science.

Look behind the memes, there's truth in them.

Transition has no long-term proven benefits.
STOP FAPPING, START LIVING!
Don't trap yourself!

>turn it off meme video
You can actually stop fapping. I don't claim it's an outright cure to AGP in *all* cases, but in quite a few cases it can work, and will help you no matter what!
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Cure anon...

I want to be a Muslim girl :(
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>>8976141
Standard AGP/Trans/Dyphoric advice applies here, STOP FAPPING, START LIVING!

In regards to being a muslim, you can convert to being a muslim if you so choose.
Is this specifically part of your AGP/Trans/Dysphoria or is this a seperate desire?

Do you simply enjoy Muslim culture, and have sort of gotten an attachment to this with some sort of AGP?

I need more information, to put it short.
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>>8976150
Seperate issues intertwined
My gender dysphoria makes me want to be a girl

And outside that I have a strong desire to join Islam, but I want to be a Muslim woman because that's all my heart knows how to be

I don't want to be a man, I want to be a good Muslim girl :(
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>>8976155
I see.

This makes things.. fairly complicated.
But it's best to tackle each issue seperately.

Would you be able to be content being a Muslim man, in any way? If you were able to, that is.

Since your heart leads you towards Islam, I'd reccomend following that, making sure to still keep your head with you. It's important to have a balance of logic and emotion in life.

Is this more of a fetish thing, do you have AGP? Or is it more of an inner desire. Or is it both?

What would be your ideal life. Try to find the non-gendered parts of this, and pursue it.

You can still be a good Muslim, but as a man if that's the choice you decide to make.

I'd look towards tackling the Muslim issue first, and deal with the dysphoria later.
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so i just had a dream where i was with a bunch of girls and they were telling me things like "it's ok to be trans there is nothing wrong with you" and other things like that. i started crying they hugged me and when they let go i was a girl. i actually have never been that happy in my life even if it was a dream. maybe i just try to transition i mean tomorrow is like coming out day or whatever anyways. i don't know i wish i had people in real life that i knew would accept me.
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>>8976167
I can never be content as a man
It is something I cry about, it's not a fetish but it simply what my heart longs for spiritually

I saw a Muslim transgirl in mtfg who converted and I was so jealous.


I will either give in to both or reject both


https://www.instagram.com/p/BT_mdyhgy2k/?taken-by=aloosh_haydzz

This is all I want to be, a devoted wife who loves her husband with all her heart...that's all I want to be...I want someone one to look after me and protect me while I look after them.
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Tfw when repressor found out that one of his friends is a chaser
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>>8976172
Transition has no long-term proven benefits.
The /mtfg/ tradnarrative bullshit has gotten to your head. I've had a few dreams like that in the past. Avoid falling for bitterhon lies.

Don't trap yourself.

>>8976186
I see. That makes things difficult.

I can tell you this - denying this part of yourself which is connected to spirituality is going to be difficult.

I can't tell you how you can do this, but you need to find a way within an emotional/spiritual context.

I'm not experienced in regards to this sort of thing, I'm a man of science - but I know that emotional and spiritual "attachments" of sort can be extremely strong.

With matters of the heart connected to a mental illness (dysphoria) it becomes complicated.

It seems like a typical dysphoric case aside from the Muslim stuff however.

You need to find alternative ways to express your spirituality, emotions and self in a positive way without trapping yourself/Transitioning.

I'd start there first. I doubt NoFap will help you in this specific case.
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I wonder if the repressors would live 50 years ago, wouldn't be in 90% just cis straight crossdresser with occasional fag here and there.
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>>8976241
>Having a chaser friend as a repressor
Make sure to never trap yourself.

Transition has no long-term proven benefits.

Chasers love the whole "slowly turn someone into a girl" thing, they're arguably worse than bitterhons in that regard.
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>>8976186
Have you thought about ways to express interpersonal devotion other than Islam? Personally I don’t think Islam is a particularly healthy religion, especially for LGBT or questioning, or for the rights of women.
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>>8976255
>Update
He doesn't know and will never know. All people know me as manly man with long term girlfriend.
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>>8976247
If I transition to female I am halfway there
If I convert and involve myself with a accepting liberal sect i would be complete...

Husband or not, if I could dedicate myself to Allah living as a full time Muslim woman, I would be far happier than I am today.

I know in my heart that is what I am
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>>8976270
T girl who want to be Muslim. Suicide mission.
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Repressors, just like AGP/Trans/Dysphoria sufferers, have been around pretty much forever in various forms.

Differences in gender roles and gender expression were the main traits of these people, before transition was a thing.

This sort of "transition" doesn't really have any downsides as long as it avoids HRT and is exclusively a social transition.

If "transitioners" existed back then, so did repressors in various forms.

Going back just 50 years, there was HRT transition going on even then. You'd need to go back further.

There is an extremely large increase in Trans/AGP/Dysphoric cases in the modern day. I'd love to see why that is, unfortunately all the research is towards the tradnarrative bullshit so we won't get our answer to that question.

I'd say it's more than cis CD's and fags.
Dysphoria is a real mental illness, that's always been around in some form, however rare.
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>>8976280
Of course you are right. But I think most of this people have their dysphoria mild enough and would be just cis straight crossdresser and some occasional homo. Now that you see all this timelines and inspiration stories this idea is planted further into your head.
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>>8976262
This is a fairly decent suggestion.

There are many sects of religions however, and there may be a Muslim sect that is welcoming of this person.

This is a personal spiritual issue, and it's not something that can really be helped outside of soulsearching by oneself.

Since I'm a man of science, I can't really help one with that.

>>8976263
Good to hear it. Keep it that way.

>>8976270
Why do you feel the way you do?
You can dedicate yourself to Allah as a full time Muslim, but where does being female come into this?
When did you first get this desire?
Try and trace back why you feel the way you do.

I'd reccomend some soulsearching and looking at why you feel the way you do.

>>8976274
Incorrect. There are many sects of religions.
Also, repressors aren't T girls until they trap themselves.
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>>8976288
That's a valid viewpoint, and a theory as to why the trans percentage has been increasing at a rapid rate.

"Trannymania" is a huge problem, and it's making a lot of people trap themselves when they really shouldn't and would be content being cis CD / homo / exc or finding other ways to cope with dypshoria.

But I'd say most repressors here are the real deal, based on what I've seen, minus the /mtfg/ bitterhons which are mostly transtrenders or mentally ill pill pushers.

We are choosing to not trap ourselves and go against our dysphoria, which is a very difficult thing to do.

Just ask anyone here about their experiences repressing. I don't like to go into my personal experiences here. I like to stick to the science and logical side of things, myself.
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>>8976274
I know. But I can't help how much my heart longs to be free and be myself

>>8976292
My dysphoria wouldent allow me to live as a Muslim man

I want to be modest, submissive and chaste, wearing hijab, or. niqab and being a devout Muslim woman

It's not letting me live as a man now. I have to be female. I want to be female. I am female.

It's in my very soul. I feel feminine with every fibre of my being.

I'm a transgirl
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If there was a way to cure my bisexuality I would take it in a heartbeat. I hate having gay sexual desires.
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I remember 4 years ago i deflected my dysphoria and I had a phase where I desperately wanted to be a dolphin because I saw it as a symbol of femininity

To the point of suicidal ideation and dreams about being a dolphin.
My brain gets fucking weird when I deny being trans. It's why I have to start hrt

I get more mentally ill the more I repress

https:/www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYxNJ8qI9fk
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>>8976307
I myself don't cross dress as that trigger my dysphoria, but try to incorporate more rolle play with girlfriend, being academic I can talk with hands and sit crossed legs and nobody care. I told my gf I have mild depression so when dysphoria hit I have excuse to be distant day to two and life go on. I am lowering drinking and trying to be more distracted. And guess what? Life is going on. Last few days are rough but as soon as I get better I will go work on translations again and so on. Yesterday was living hell, today? Just a purgatory
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>>8976308
It's not a suicide mission to want to be a Muslim woman. However, you can't really *be* a Muslim woman from a scientific point of view.

But that isn't really what matters here, as it's a spiritual/emotional issue, and I'm not the best at giving advice in regards to this.

You want to feel free, you want to feel like yourself, this is a very common AGP/Trans/Dysphoric thing.

You sound pretty sure you're trans, and have made your mind up as such on that.

It's up to you what you wish to do, and you know my views on such things.

However, one must always keep in mind the chance to follow one's heart is rare in life.

Not everyone has such deep desires for what life they want to live.

I'd reccomend researching as much as you can about the muslim faith, transition and the science behind transition, and being as logical as possible while still respecting your inner beliefs.

I can only hope you will be able to be happy, and cure your mental illness in some manner, or at least find a way to deal with it, but in a spiritual context it's next to impossible to fix short of transitioning and following your dreams, as such.

Best of luck no matter what you do, anon.

But it's unlikely you'll be able to change this if your beliefs are so set. You need more outside information, and different viewpoints on this situation if you wish to not believe what you do.
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>>8976325
I dream of one day of praying to Allah, as a fully transitioned transgirl, and thanking him for giving me the strength to go on this journey. Humble and Modest in my Female Muslim dress, my heart finally at peace... ;-;
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>>8976314
I see nothing wrong with an optional gay/bi/exc cure - while very controversial, as long as it's optional I see absolutely no problem with curing LGBT as a whole, as an option.

But I think there's more hope for an AGP/Trans/Dysphoric cure than a gay/bi cure. We'll need much more research into neuroscience for both, but my guess is the AGP/Trans/Dysphoric cure will come first, as it's a mental illness.

From what we know about sexuality, it is mostly set at a certain age and unchangable as of current neuroscience knowledge outside of certain scenarios which I won't go into here.

This, I would assume also unfortunately includes AGP. However if you can remove the dysphoria without removing the AGP, it would be an effective cure.

There is absolutely a way to directly cure AGP/Trans/Dysphoria, by targeting Dysphoria itself. It's a mental illness.

>>8976323
We all have ways of dealing with our AGP/Trans/Dysphoria.

Idolism, which is finding some symbol or icon or idol of femininity and using it as a focus is a bad idea, and will only feed your mental illness.

This is yet more signs that transgenderism as a whole is more a mental illness than anything else.

Transition has no long-term proven benefits.
STOP FAPPING, START LIVING!

But it seems you have some other comorbid mental disorders you may want to get checked out.

I'd reccomend highly against transitioning, however. But as far as I know, it is quite common for other mental disorders to progress along with dysphoria.

>>8976324
Same here. I'm more of an interpersonal AGP myself. Crossdressing makes me dysphoric.

I try my best not to feed my mental illness, however and am mostly content with what I am and the things I do at this point.

I'm glad you're doing well regardless.
Having some form of release valve for your AGP/Trans/Dysphoria is important, but don't let it overcome you and make your mental illness worse. Fapping is an awful idea, however.
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>>8976353
I can't tell you what to do beyond what I've said.
It's an issue of the heart and spirit.

If that's what you wish to pursue, I can't stop you from doing that if that's how you truly, truly wish to live.

But please make sure to take precautions first, stay safe and most of all be absolutely certain that transition is the only path you can go down.

A *lot* of AGP/Trans/Dysphoric people go through the full transition to find out they were wrong, that they aren't at peace, and they often detransition soon after, or worse commit suicide or simply be forced to live in hell, feeling no better than when they started.

It's an awful thing to have happen. And it's very, very common.

Be sure this is what you truly want, and make sure you have the facts before doing anything.
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>>8976356
>Update
I have a list of reasons against transition on my phone:
1. Loosing long term gf
2. Loosing moat of family and friends
3. It is cyclical and mostly sexual I could regret it
4. From straight male to transbian is a great social fall
5. I would be a hon
6. Men age better
7. Life time on pills isn't good choice
8. Scarred of surgeries
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anymore then this is not acceptable >>8976390
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>>8976421
What isn't acceptable?
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>>8976053
He's basically the tranny equivalent of Father Comstock.
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https://discord.gg/9qsnPy

Discord.
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>>8976053
This is the most homosexual repression I have ever witnessed
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>>8977629
i wish i looked like that i also wish this place wasn't dead
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>>8977629
Hi Spartan.

>>8977679
That meme video was pretty gay.

>>8977684
This place isn't dead. It's just bitterhons shitposted this place up and a lot of people left.

Also, no you don't.
Transition has no long-term proven benefits.
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>>8977918
So if nofap works so well how come the only time I don't want to be a girl is after I fap?
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A very powerful wizard, a man known only as Armani, has broken our most sacred law - he sells his magical services to perform hits and alter minds. Every magician takes a vow not to sell their services; it could open Pandora's Box. If you come across this man, he's an extremely skilled and dangerous practitioner. Use caution when dealing with him. Alert the relevant authorities or this man could destabilize the whole community....
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>>8977997
can he turn me into a girl?
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>>8977990
Welp I am not that rep nutter although I did defend some of ""xir"" points re:T/E... re:your own question, I suppose it has something to do with your inevitable and unextraordinary peak in dopamine then (next add depression or anxiety and you can imagine how one might mistake it for something else).
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>>8977918
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>>8977990
Because you're feeding your mental illness.
Temporarily sating your mental illness, but also feeding it making it worse in the long run.

NoFap is a long-term thing. You need to stick with it.

>>8978075
I'm not a "nutter". I'm also not a "xir". My pronouns are He/Him/His, and I'm a proud male.

>>8978367
Nice shitpost!
>>>/mtfg/, bitterhon.
I'll never be skittling myself.
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Had a breakdown today. Went into the office drunk on my day off. Luckily the team leader who likes me and knows I'm fucked up was in and managed to segregate me in a side room and escort me out without anybody else noticing. I was desperate to tell her what I was thinking.

Repression is failing me folks. And before I hear that "stop fapping start living" nonsense I can tell you that I already have been. In the last 9 months I've been super active. Running, socialising, engaging in hobbies, dating, having sex, reading, drinking less e.t.c. None of it has made any difference, the dysphoria is getting worse. I think I'm going to transition. I don't care about being a hon anymore. I'll be dead by 30 if I don't anyway and I certainly don't believe in the afterlife.
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>>8978475
Serious question: Serious relationship with a woman, fuck her regularly, must imagine myself as a girl with her to manage piv. Is this still feeding my illnes?
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>>8978513
How old are you?
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>>8978524
27. Hon tier and fucked. But as I say going on as a man at this point seems futile. I feel nothing but distress all of the time. I don't think of a lifetime of social ostratiation is worse than death.
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>>8978513
>>8978544
Good luck ma'am.
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>>8978593
God being called m'am just feels wrong though. Here we'll go again, the mental merry-go-around continues.
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>>8978544
Hrt snd boymode? If changes are great do full transition if not no.
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>>8978599
Hah. I'm sorry. Maybe take it one step at a time?
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>>8978602
Takes fiuxking two years to get HRT in the UK unless I go private. Guess I'll have to break the bank and gonprovate.
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>>8978647
Diy. That is what I would do if I were single
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>>8978513
good luck anon i sincerely wish you the best. i know how you feel with the dead by 30 part too unfortunately.
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Guess we'll all be hons, wonder what we did to deserve this shit
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>>8978701
it does seem like it will happen eventually at least to me. we all must've done something horrible in a past life.
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>>8978707
Probably.
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>>8978513
I so remember being here. GET ON THE MONES. Anyone who tells you otherwise is lying. Repression makes it worse, SSRIs make you a dysphoric zombie, casual sex/no-fap makes you forget about it for a month then it comes back worse.

You just have to accept who you are. You aren't a boy; you're a girl. Giving in to society and anatomy will ruin your life. Anyone who matters will understand, and you'll feel infinitely better about yourself.

Fwiw I started at 24 and I pass pretty well. A lot of it has to do with genetics/bone structure. The only time people clock me is when I speak to them, and they still don't give a shit. It's just like "oh, they're a trans-girl." I'd take being a trans-girl over being a man any day of the week.
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>>8978756
>Update
If you would see my face.
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>>8976119
For your sake I honestly hope you're a /pol/tard trying to fuck with trans-people. If not, you've got some soul searching to do. Work this shit out before you become the next Caitlyn Jenner. AGP isn't some fetish you have to get over; it's your natural female sexuality looking for a way out.

The longer it takes you to accept that, the more damage you'll end up doing to yourself. If you have "AGP" it means there's a girl in you trying to break free. Let her out. You'll be happier.
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>>8978785
What about non dysphoric agps and hordes of cis het crossdressers?
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>>8978785
>The longer it takes you to accept that, the more damage you'll end up doing to yourself. If you have "AGP" it means there's a girl in you trying to break free.

tfw researched how to get hormones since I was age 14.
gatekeeped at 20.
transitioned at 25. I will never be passable at this point.
Only if I knew AGP was not just a simple fetish, I would have transitioned when I was 14.
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>>8978775
Seriously, just the hormones help. Idk if it's the reduced testosterone of the increased estrogen, but trans brains crave female hormone levels. One week into hormones it was like a siren in my head suddenly turned off. I felt like an actual person, and the physical stuff hadn't even started yet. You don't have to be out and proud like me to benefit from them. My city is super safe, but I get not everywhere is.

Telling people about it also helped me a ton. You'd be surprised how quickly people change their tune when someone they know is telling them they might be trans.
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>>8978826
I dened this being anything other than kink despite being a lesbian in my first fap fantasy. It was easier that way. Now 26 and fucked
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>>8978849
I will probably give it a shot because I also heard that I have a babyface and could be cute.
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>>8978789
A lot of people don't have dysphoria badly enough to face the stigma of coming out. Doesn't mean they're not trans; they're just able to cope without transition. At the end of the day if you feel like a girl, would rather be a girl, fantasize several times a day about how much better your life would be if you were a girl, etc... then you're trans. It's up to the individual to deal with it however they see fit. For some that means crossdressing and fantasizing, for others it means transition. I rode the AGP train hard until my mid 20s when I decided to come out and get on HRT. For me personally it was the best decision I ever made. My only regret was not doing it sooner.
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>>8978826
>>8978852
thought it was a fetish until my dysphoria got bad around 20 and it's gotten worse every year since
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>>8978861
I promise the more you come to terms with it, the less you'll care about being 100% female. Try this: shave a part of your leg that no one will see in public (I started with my thighs). You'll probably spend the rest of the day in ecstasy. It won't make the dysphoria go away forever, but I think it helped clear things up a little for me.
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>>8978885
that got me ingrowns that I couldn't get rid of months later
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>>8978885
Do you have a discord perhaps? I would need pass to be happy you know, to just live in peace.
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>>8978894
I don't. Honestly I never venture outside the realm of anon. I just don't feel comfortable.

I can't speak for your personal situation, but I had what I'd consider to be "pass or die" dysphoria for about six months before I came out. The first time someone besides myself called me a girl it went away and it only got better from there. Hormones were the final nail in the coffin for my intense bouts of dysphoria.

Every now and then I'll get a passing feelings wishing I could have been born cis, but they're no where near as bad as they were. I'd put them on par with wishing I could be famous.
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>>8978891
But tell me you didn't spend that first night rubbing your smooth legs and feeling like a fucking boss. My in-growns gave me dysphoria at first, but it was better than the hair. Eventually I figured out how to get them smooth.

Have you tried exfoliating/Nair
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>>8978926
That sound sweet. I really thinl I would need ffs but it is expensive as fuckkk. My body is genuinly quite fem outside of body hair, I even have a cup gyno.

I don't live in tolerant area neither am I brave person. I can move but I would love to come back.
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>>8978936
exfoliating would probably help, yeah. do you shave or epilate? which one gave you less ingrowns?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0-nY-2KdHo
i really am crazy
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>>8978947
It sucks living in an intolerant area. It's not something I had to deal with, but I know people who did and they told me that coming out was when their dysphoria peaked. They're still happier that they did though.

Fwiw I believe you're a girl (if that's really what you think you are). Your physical appearance can't change that. You could tattoo a cross on an atheists forehead, but they'd still be an atheist. If you don't feel comfortable telling people you know try going to a gender therapist. Idk if they actually know anything about psychology, but they believe what you're saying and they'll call you whatever the hell you want them to. I never went to one because I had support from my friends/family, but I've heard it's very self affirming.
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>>8978970
I used to epilate once or twice a month before HRT. It was the only way for me to get rid of stubble 100% before HRT. Now shaving is all I need.

Fair warning: IT HURTS (especially the first time). Your legs will also look like a plucked chicken for about 12 hours after you do it. That made me suuuuuper dysphoric because I knew the pain/bumps were just the result of my (formerly) course hair. But you will have girl legs for a solid week or two afterwards. Totally worth it for me.
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>>8978992
My sister know and when she called me girl name I cried. I am thinking actually of moving, I just need courage. I am talkative enough to find new friends. Perhaps I will fi d the courage one day.
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>>8978852
>>8978873
Carmen Carrera transitioned at 25. She looks alright imo. I mean she probably got the works (and really good FFS), but 90% of it comes down to genetics/bone structure.

I know it feels like it is, but you're face isn't getting manlier by the day in your 20s. Sure we all missed the boat when we wet through puberty, but there's no sense in moping about it. The important thing is to start dealing with it now (whether that means HRT or not). Be thankful you didn't repress until your 50s like some people do (I'm looking at you, cureanon)
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>>8979041
>Update
At least my body is somehow girly =3
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>>8979036
Good luck. I just can't stand seeing people get caught up in the APG meme. Before I was trans I had AGP, OCD, "rigid internalized gender rolls" (that's also a thing). Anything I could tell myself to avoid admitting I was trans.

None of it is true. Trans-girls are girls in male bodies, and what girl wouldn't be upset about that? There are people out there who will not only accept you, but really and truly believe you. If you're trans, life will be better for you on the other side of the AGP meme. It's not perfect, but it's 100X better.
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>>8976323
>My brain gets fucking weird when I deny being trans.
Yep.
>It's why I have to start hrt
Nope.
>I get more mentally ill the more I repress
We all do.
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>>8979074
>Update
Thanks girl :3 I am half crying right now - to a degree I can. Just minute ago I was in bathroom brushing my teeth and dysphoria around my face striked really hard.

I used agp denial even harder I was convincing myself I am super straight cause I hate male look even on me lol. I have near nervous breakdown few months ago which have forced me to admit to myself: Yes anon, you are a girl, you are tranny. I need courage badly, I need to be me, I need to catch at least very end of my twenites, year or two of real fun, I need to feel real joy.

Sorry for rant btw.
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>>8979084
Maybe stop repressing? Like repression is basically admitting that you care more about what other people think about you than your own mental health.

For a lot of people their "dysphoria" is 10% dysphoria/90% guilt and shame they've built up over a lifetime of hiding their true self from their loved ones. Some people feel better after just opening up about it, and never even have to get on HRT.

You're not going to make it your entire life without telling someone about this. Better to just get it out of the way now.
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>>8979109
>Sorry for rant btw.
no need to say sorry, rants like this make me feel that I'm not alone with this. wish you the best with your transition!
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>>8979117
>>8979119
Am I only one who found coming out hardest part of everything?
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>>8979141
is it? because i've had some serious troubles with coming out. i literally feel like i'm going to have a heart attack when i try to.
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>>8979150
Me too. Sometimes I just wish to disapper. Gonne. Starting a new.
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>>8979141
Coming out was by far the worst part for me. The whole process took me about 6 months and my dysphoria had me on the verge of suicide.

I started telling everyone I had TOCD and needed therapy, then I came out as a crossdresser, then as a genderqueer SJW, and by then people were just like "just get it the hell over with."
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>>8979159
iktf
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>>8979161
Hahaha :)) Funny process. I was yesterday borderline suicidal. Like lying ln bed, listening to the final cut by Pink Floyd with my Sig Sauer near me. It was living hell. Specially because my second cousin stopped for a coffee and she in many ways look like female me (way cuter tho!). I was just broken down whole day afterwards..

I really don't think any of my "friends" will ever accept me.
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>>8979271
>>8979271
how about you put that gun where you can't easily reach for it, so you don't do something that you would regret if you think about it a bit longer.
Also, think about it this way, you have a cis female cousin that looks similar to you so you probably are already very fem.
And don't think about what your friends might possibly think of you, maybe some of them will be more accepting than you think and you don't need the rest.
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>>8979271
>I really don't think any of my "friends" will ever accept me.
same and you have to at least make it to the hunting trip in a few years if you're gonna go out like that
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>>8979311
I left it at grandads. And no I don't look fem. Me and my cousin are just both tall, have simmilar eye shape, high cheakbones, same hair colour. My jaw is squarer, my nose is gross, I am balding as fuckk. On brightside, my face don't have major strong lines and chin is weak took. I know my friends, I try to hint something, test the waters and what followed were jokes about trannies and sailors.
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>>8979271
You put "friends" in quotes. Any that don't accept you aren't your friends. You are who you are and a real friend will be fine with that.
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>>8979351
I don't have real friends and never had. I was always to closed emotionally. I just have drinking buddies and college colleagues
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>>8979361
Then you have less to worry about. Maybe if you come out you won't have to be closed emotionally anymore and you can make real friendships.
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>>8979373
You are right. My emotional closure and depression made me also a shitty boyfriend. Perhaps I could be better girlfriend :3
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>>8979342
We are always our strongest critics. A square jaw isn't that much of a problem, there are many beautiful cis women with stronger jaws. Your hairs will probably grow back on hrt and if you want to stop balding for now you can always take finasterid (I don't know how effective that is and if you need a prescription, better do you own research).

Regarding your friends I think as long as they aren't to stubborn they will accept you. I'd probably make attack helicopter jokes right now if it wasn't for some people who brought me back to the ground which helped me accept myself (to a degree). There is a lot of misunderstanding regarding, but if you explain everything to your friends those with a brain will probably accept you. You really shouldn't bother with the rest.
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I have a question

How can you tell you are a girl inside if you don't know how anybody else feels inside?

Also

Why do you have a tendency to call yourselves girls more often than women? Are you just trying to capture the ideal that is a young female?
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>>8979448
why are you asking in repgen?
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>>8979402
Thanks for consolation regarding looks. Perhaps with nose job and hrt I can end up qt.

Well about friends, like I said, not really options. Most of the are quite intolerant peeps. As for my real friends, I don't think I have any, perhaps 2 whom I lost long ago. Btw: How do you mean explain everything?
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>>8979474
I-I don't know..

I've literally just come to this board.
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>>8979402
>There is a lot of misunderstanding regarding, but if you explain everything to your friends those with a brain will probably accept you.
you aren't from the bible belt friendo
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>>8979482
this is where the people that don't transition go try /mtfg/ if you want trannies
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>>8979486
Person to whom she is replying isn't neither. Just backward area. It is more of a crowd I pushed myself into it
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>>8979448
>How can you tell you are a girl inside if you don't know how anybody else feels inside?

You're probably gonna get 10 different answers from 10 different trans people. I have really no answer for this one, I only know that I want to be one so hard that it hurts idk.

>Why do you have a tendency to call yourselves girls more often than women? Are you just trying to capture the ideal that is a young female?

I think you're totally right, maybe some just want to feel like they are living the childhood/teenage years they missed but either way it needs to stop at a certain age tbqh
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>>8979495
Thanks for answering! If you really want something you should do it (not to say consequences be damned).

I'm just curious about the inner thought processes for you guys. I'm totally accepting of trans people, in fact I think it's kind of rad the way you go against the norm to find meaning in a meaningless existence, but sometimes I notice thoughts that don't seem healthy to me I guess.
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>>8979541
Tbh I think we are just dealing with medical problem
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Fuck me im feeling worse and worse tonight.

Meeting a girl I dated briefly for dinner tomorrow. Gonna try and fuck her as my final act of a being a man before surrendering.
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>>8979448
I wouldn't make too much of the girls thing. It's partly the board culture and the prevalence of young people here. Also if a woman is going to meet up with some friends, she'd say something like "I'm going out with the girls," not "I'm going out with the women." It's just figurative.
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>>8979559
Good luck anon. Btw: Fucking my gf don't make it better but worse
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>>8979559
yeah i've been getting worse as the days go by hopefully fucking her helps.
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>>8979541
Can confirm the "girl vs. woman" thing. I felt so cheated out of my teenage years when I accepted I was trans. Luckily I'm still pretty young, so girl or woman could work for me. It gets a little cringy when the 60y/o repressors collapse and start wearing pigtails and sleeping with dolls, but I don't judge them. Admitting you've spent your entire life lying to yourself isn't easy. I'm all for whatever helps them cope.
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>>8979577
Idk, I kind of liked things I did in childhood I am tomboyish af..but I cry that I won't be college girl. (high scholl was such hell that I don't even think about it.

Also:

Tfw so emotionally closed that only living thing you truly love is your cat.
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>>8979559
Sex always helped me cope as long as it wasn't long term. I could have one night stands until I dropped. It wasn't until I got into a LTR that I noticed something was up. It was cool for a month, then I couldn't get off unless she was on top, then she had to call me "bitch" repeatedly to keep me going, all the while I was imagining myself having lesbian sex. Finally told her that I was a lesbian on the inside. Never looked back. Not even once.
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>>8979605
I do that :O and I hate piv and do it just for her
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>>8979604
You can be a college girl; you just have to admit that you're a girl on the inside. People will accept you, especially if it's a liberal arts school. College is honestly a great place to come out. There's an LGBT club on literally every college campus.
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>>8979643
I have just finished. I am 25 and got m.a
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>>8979555
If by medical problem you mean having a female brain/psyche/sexuality that's stuck in a male body, I agree. You know what helps? HRT
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>>8979651
I came out at 24. Do I regret missing out on my teen/college years? Sometimes. The important thing is I'm not missing out anymore. I'm living my real life and not the show I used to put on for everyone around me.
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>>8979655
I am giving in. I am:
>>8979109
>>8979271
>>8979389

i literally can't take it anymore..make me a girl asap
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>>8979666
you're gonna do it?
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>>8979662
>Update
And seeing being called a girl give me a boner and boner give me bad dysphoria.

My dysphoria is:
1. Face
2. Boners
3. Body hair
4. Everything else
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>>8979672
Yes I am doing it. I am crying for last two hours while chain smoking snd thanking God I left gun at grandads
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>>8979666
You already are. You just have to do something about your appearance. Male clothes and hormones aren't a good look for most girls.
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>>8979688
well good luck anon. how do you plan on doing everything? are you going to tell your girlfriend? freinds? parents?
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>>8979679
skittles cure all that
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>>8979702
>>8979703
Firstly telling gf, then soon get some money before telling parents since I live st home. For "friends" too will know rest don't need to know.
Order hrt asap and plan to start in some other town a new.

And got boner again feom being told I am already girl and I hate damnn boners
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>>8979717
I would need ffs too
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>>8979718
Sorry, but the boners go away with acceptance/skittles. It helped me to think of it this way: if you're a boy on the inside, why do you so badly want to be a girl? Boys don't want to be girls. Only girls want to be girls.
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>>8979726
you might stop caring about that once your agp is gone
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>>8979718
well good luck hopefully one day i can find the courage to stop repressing too.
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>>8979732
Nice one :3 Feel so warm reading it <3

>>8979734
I don't think. Suddely I care how I look lol
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>>8979747
I didn't found courage so much, as I hit bottom line of misery
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>>8979759
i'm pretty close to rock bottom as well honestly.
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>>8979835
And another thing happened. I realised how distant I am to the woman I love and how I am getting more and more closed off. My behaviour is hurting everyone around. I can't continue, perhaps one day I will be decent girlfriend, sister, daughter and friend and not this depressed peace of depression.
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>>8979874
It's impossible to be a full participant in the lives of people around you if you're crippled by depression. It can be difficult or impossible to beat depression if you don't find a way to deal with gender dysphoria in a positive way.
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>>8979970
I will deal with it =3 and I will be good girl, promise <3
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>>8980004
This girl gets it. Waiting on the rest of you, repgen.
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>>8979755
Take it slow. One step at a time. There's no need to worry about FFS right now. You'll be surprised how much easier things get once you open up about this to someone.
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>>8980048
I just hope I will pass, be kinda qt and live normal life...
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>>8980084
Some of you are brave, I respect that, but not me. I am fragile being and I would really need to pass and blend in to be happy. Right now I just need tl be held..and strangely feel good that I can cry for real :O
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>>8980048
but Spartan never dies, even skittles cant kill the man!
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>>8980105
>Update
Curehon will get a heart attack when he will see all this lol
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>>8980124
gonna be an extra large wall of text
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>>8980124
It's a repression breakdown en masse.
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>>8980124
What if this gets cureanon to come out?
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>>8980100
*hugs*

It's going to get better, but coming out is hard. Probably the hardest part. Just don't let anyone discredit your feelings. Only you know who you are. Stand your ground.
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>>8980452
cureanon is going to be left alone on his mountain of salt and will eventually dry up and become an old man, then finally he will attempt to transition and then he will be a hon
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New thread before I go to bed:

>>8980845
>>8980845
>>8980845
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>>8978756
I'm considering taking hormones and boymodeing it since my skeleton/proportions are fucked but I'm afraid of growing breasts I'll have to hide forever.
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>>8979117
If I'm not gonna go on HRT then coming out would be dumb. Just actually accepting I might be trans was a great relief.




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