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Cozy Edition.

Intended to be a no-trips allowed version of /mtfg/.
This is to keep the drama low, and let anonymous people be heard, as well as to avoid the erp/rp that goes on.

It's open for everyone, just behave.

>No trips (or names)
>No avatar fagging
>No erp/rp-ing
>No calling out on trips (or names)
>No "pre-everything" "evaluate me" pics (don't respond to them)
>no chasers

Anthropometric data: http://anthro.cs.uni-freiburg.de/#colx=100&coly=124

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>lost vitamin D capsules
rip my bones
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>>9105875
how bad is it not to take those if you get zero sun?
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>>9105861
Thank you for adding no chasers! I OPed the last thread and was going to add that in.
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>>9105908
im about to find out
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>>9105908
not that bad if you're young.
if there's anything I learned b12 deficiancy will fuck you up 1000 harder. (cypro)
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>>9105947
very true
i feel like absolute crap and guilty of ever being born
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>exclusively play female characters in RPGs, doesn't feel "right" othewise
>go on HRT
>making my first male characters in years

what gives?

also
>12 consecutive captcas
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>>9106420
Escapism.
Before you were escaping from male life, desperately wanting to be a female or seen as one, but now you know the latter is probably happening so you look for something else to take a break from transition
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>>9105459
Hips solidifies at around 16, but a year or two before they solidify they aren't going to change that much.
Shoulders and neck grow into your early 20's.

>>9105541
No it can't, you could experience some difference in muscle and joint stuff (I did, my hips got about 2" wider, I also gained weight (from emicated to underweight)). But for actual hip widening of the bones, you need to be VERY young.
Before you're born there's differences between males and females in the hip region, so even if you start very early you won't have as wide hips as if you were born female.
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>>9106432
i'm almost 20
and i'm going to start hrt in around 6 months
i had no shoulders/neck/hip change in 3 years
should i be safe or i'm going to become some kind of wide shouldered hon in those waiting months? rip
also related: no male in my family really has wide shoulders
and i currently have an hourglass shape/wide 90% wide as my shoulders
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>>9106457
Even 80% is fine, if you're skinny and have a very narrow waist. 90% is pretty much average for females, assuming not overweight.
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>>9106420
Women (and occasionally, weak gay men) make male characters to accomplish masculine activities they can't in the real world. The androcentric persona serves as wish fulfillment, striving toward a domineering lifestyle the woman or weak gay has never done in the world as it is.
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>>9106503
I have been underweight until last year
I weighed 120 lbs and I was 5'10
Then I started eating junk food/drinking soda like it's water and now I'm at 140 lbs, having a BMI of around 20 which is fine
I'm going to start eating healthy again/stop being a jerk with my body as soon as I get on HRT
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Whatever you guys (lol) do, DO NOT GET SRS
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>>9106543
and I still am 5'10, let me specify that
I've not been growing in height since I was 14 lol
can this 6 months I have to wait until HRT really make a difference on shoulders/overall body growth even if I didn't really develop in the latest 2 years?
I'm worried about that and beard (I have almost zero beard right now, and I hope it stays this way rip)
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>>9106536
thanks, armchair psych
>>9106545
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>>9106432
>But a new study by researchers at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill has found evidence that, even though you’re not getting taller anymore, the pelvis (“hipbones”) does continue to widen as people advance in age from 20 years to 79 years.

>I think it’s a fairly common human experience that people find themselves to be wider at the age of 40 or 60 then they were at 20,” said Laurence E. Dahners, MD, senior author of the study and a professor in the Department of Orthopaedics in the UNC School of Medicine. “Until recently we assumed that this was caused simply by an increase in body fat."

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/jor.21469/full
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>>9106561
this gives me hope
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>>9106543
As you get on HRT - go to gym. Fat MTF is pathetic. Slim MTF with great ass is gorgeous.
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>>9106574
gonna do it, i already have a nice butt to start with fortunately
my face and body already pass as tallish/flat-chested girl
BUT
my voice kinda sucks (it's not deep, it's 15-years-old-boy deep, but I learnt to speak with a really masculine vocal timbre/lowred the pitch when i was repressing all this and it became my default)
and i don't know shit about makeup/female clothing
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>>9106561
That's from compression. You get shorter too, and your feet get bigger in length and width.
It's not actually growing and developing, it's doing the opposite.
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>>9106612
Clothing - just stand before the mirror, and you'll feel, what suits you. Makeap is more difficult. If you are not sure - you'd better not use any, or you'll end looking like slut, going to sell ass.
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>>9106637
>never reads the study nor anything the researchers stated
>decides to comment anyway

>In particular, the fact that the pelvic inlet also widened is evidence of true pelvic growth rather than simple appositional bone formation, Dahners said. The pelvic inlet would be smaller if appositional bone formation were taking place, he said.
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>>9106678
I know it's bullshit.
Those women probably had children, which gives them stemcells and physically widens the hips by taking up space. An mtf or male will never get those stem cells, or have a baby widening the hips.

It's delusional hon theory at this point. Don't bring that type of bullshit in here, just go to susans if you want to share those delusions.
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>>9106729
>facts are for Susans (tranny version of reddit lol)

Delusional hon with a victim complex. The data is the data and it applies to men and women alike. You can scream, you can whine, but you can't fight reality.
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>>9106743
Do you not realize how delusional you are? That means it's a real delusion.
How can you believe that we keep growing and developing past our 20's? We start falling apart at that age, not keep developing as if we were youth all the way to our 70's.
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>>9106674
I was thinking about doing some "natural makeup" but not overdoing anything, may that be a good idea? (pic related, she looks like me lmao)
Talking about clothing, I was thinking about wearing cutey stuff (but not something that draws too much attention) after about 1 year of hrt, and dressing androgynously in the meantime
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>>9106637
PS: for that "shorter" claim

>The L4 vertebral height did not increase in a significant manner, but the L4 width did increase significantly. The L4 width increased 0.052mm/year of age (p=0.0003). The women had a greater increase in L4 width of 0.071mm/year of age (p<0.0001) compared to men who had an increase of 0.044mm/year of age (p=0.0313).

>hurr gravity is like a cast iron pan it just flattens u looool
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>>9106752
>muh feelings are better then your research

Tell me why biological men who took no HRT nor had a baby come out of their bodies have a wider pelvic inlet at age 70 then age 20.

PROTIP: If you can't, you have no argument.
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>>9103195
we're on 4chan so most of us here are in our early-mid 20s MAX

pls stop treating us as if we are 40 year old sadist wannabe sugar daddies or something
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>>9106755
Just browse pornsites, look at pornstars and try not to look like them.
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>>9106536
im woman/weak gay and i pick girls because they is cute
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>>9106762
Can confirm, my hips have definitely gotten wider past 25. And I'm not even on HRT.
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>>9106762
I've already told you, from compression. Same reason they got shorter and got bigger feet. We're even talking about less than 1cm.
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>>9106799
You're just repeating yourself by this point, so I'm going to paste the study because I know it makes you mad and I know other people are interested.

The use of CT data has allowed us to discard the hypothesis that our earlier results were due to magnification errors brought on by increased obesity in older subjects. However, though the lack of an increase L4 vertebral height would appear to dismiss the hypothesis that we do not have a selection bias with larger subjects in our older groups, the femoral head data, which we expected would also show no increase (because there is no known mechanism for enlargement of the femoral heads) did show enlargement of the femoral heads with age.

We also were unable to confirm our third hypothesis, that widening of the pelvis was simply due to periosteal appositional bone formation, because we observed no significant change in the pelvic inlet width whereas appositional formation would presumably result in a reduction in the width of the inlet. If periosteal apposition is due to the previously described bone enlargement in response to osteoporosis,2 one would expect that there would be more marked differences between the enlargement of male and female subjects as well as a significant change in the slope of the line (as represented by the triangular decade means) after age 45 in women, which we did not observe in this data. The significant increases in inter-femoral head distance also cannot be explained by simple periosteal apposition and would appear to require some conformational change in the pelvis.

To our surprise, this study appears to confirm that the widths of the dimensions of the pelvis and L4 vertebral body as well as the distance between, and the diameter of, the femoral heads continue to enlarge after skeletal maturity
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>>9106783
when i was talking about "cutey stuff" i was thinking about something more like pic related
and yeah, avoiding dressing like porn stars should be an unspoken rule i think
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>>9106783
Is she going to bite my dick off? I'm scared.
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>>9106816
So it confirms what I said. good job.
If gaining half a mm per year in hip width is what keeps you alive, then I guess you can keep going with your delusion... But don't spread it here.
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How will orchiectomy affect my future SRS?
I've heard that SRS is possible that way, but it will require extra tissue from my stomach and will leave an ugly scar. Is it even worth it then?
I won't be able to get SRS for 3 years at least.
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>>9106873
>the world confirms everything I say because I said so not for any reason or rhyme

So said the narcissist in a rage episode, desperate to undermine anything that could give hope to its victims and sources of narc supply.

The diameter of the femoral heads also increased 0.055mm/year of age (p=0.0005) or a total of 3.3mm between the ages of 20 and 80. The effect was higher in males (0.058mm/year of age, p=0.0001) than females (0.043mm/year of age, p=0.0045).

The L4 vertebral height did not increase in a significant manner, but the L4 width did increase significantly. The L4 width increased 0.052mm/year of age (p=0.0003). The women had a greater increase in L4 width of 0.071mm/year of age (p<0.0001) compared to men who had an increase of 0.044mm/year of age (p=0.0313).
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Okay, so I'm seeing a psychiatrist (not a therapist, this one's an actual doctor). We speak a bit but in general it's pretty short. I kind of want to bridge it to him what I'm feeling right now, but I wonder what I should put in the letter I intend to write to him (because there's no way I'll be able to talk face to face to him about that). Like, probably avoid the suicidal ideations that are plaguing me, but any other ideas? How detailed do I need to get with the intimate stuff, for example?
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>>9106910
You're actually talking about less than half a centimeter over 60 years. around half a mm of width over a decade.
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>>9106915
He is a doctor. So, just tell him all you think. He'll either tell you that you are ok? and give directions to endockynologist, or mark you as gay crossdresser./ And no more mentions about suicide - in most countries you'll get pills' after which you'll want almost nothing
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>>9106960
>make claim that hips stop growing at x and x
>be wrong
>whine
>then try to undermine it because it makes you feel bad for being wrong

The narcissist in denial.
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>>9106978
0.07mm is not growing, it's not even visible to the human eye. After 60 years you wouldn't even notice the difference.
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Ok I'm new to epilating, does it really matter much if I go for a 30 dollar one over a 100 dollar one?
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What are some brands of women's pants that are good for those of us without hips?
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>>9107389
I use a cheap Phillips one from Amazon. I get a lot of ingrown hairs when I try using it.
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>>9107704
That happens with anything that pulls hairs out, not just cheap epilators.
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>>9107389
I haven't noticed any difference, my cheap one lasted much longer. Still works in fact.
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>>9107784
>>9107704
how to prevent ingrowns
my whole chest and arms were covered in pusy ingrowns last time i tried
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>no chasers

What?!
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>>9111425
See the thing with transgirls is they all wanna pretend to like the dick cause its feminine, but none of them really want it. So any guy who shows interest needs to be labeled a chaser witch hunt style in order to have an excuse not to fuck him. The hatred of chasers allows MTFG to pretend it loves cock when in reality most of them are nonpassing nonpresenting and want to have sex with women.
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>>9111507
or maybe it's because chasers are just guys going through a phase
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>>9111507
Tgirls, who don't like dick, just don't have sex with men. Theyl tell you - sorry, i'm just not into these things. If she had sex with a man for free - she likes dicks.
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>>9111507
>moap figures out meta-attraction
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>>9111612
Nope, chasers are just dudes who want to get their dicks wet. Like any other dudes.

>>9111657
Most of /mtfg/ are nonpassing transbians but they gotta pretend otherwise to not be disgusting.

>>9111680
Im always right.
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>>9111718
>Nope, chasers are just dudes who want to get their dicks wet. Like any other dudes.
this is exactly why I don't want boys in my depressed girl club
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>>9111718
>Most of /mtfg/ are nonpassing transbians
you better fokin delet this
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So because guys wanna get their dick wet we should tolerate them in /tgg/mtfg/... rlly mks me thnk.

Btw, trip off moap.
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>>9111718
"pretending otherwise" doesn't mean they are obliged to have sex. They may have no sex at all. We live in free world, so, if you had sex by mutual agreement - you wanted it.
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>>9111736
This is true, the actual reason why they're trans only transbians is because they're nonpassing though
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>>9111729
If we allow in people who arent full time then we must let in men too, this acceptance is for your benefit.

>>9111766
Yeah but thats just like, your opinion, man.

>>9111770
Probably true, a lot of them would give into male advances if they got any.
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You all still sluts for Pizza?
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Learning to not respond to tripfags or acknowledge their presence is a vital skill on 4chan.
Remember to block em

moap will never change anything in /tgg/
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>>9111857
y-yes
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>>9112443
you retard, don't respond
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>>9112469
Exactly. This place was starting to look like /mtfg/. We don't want that at all.
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>someone compares you voice to a cis woman
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>>9106420
>12 consecutive captcas
top of page
settings
quotes & replying
enable legacy captcha
save settings

problem solved!
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>>9112897
next march legacy captcha is kill
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>>9113054
You're fucking with me right?
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>>9113081
no, people all over 4chan are making a big deal of this
google is killing legacy captcha
hiro has no idea what to use other than this image one
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>>9113054
This would be very bad.
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>>9113092
well it is happening
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>>9113089
Gonna has to con some /soc/ poster into buying me a gold account.
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straight but thinking of fucking something soon

Why would I go for a trans girl over a femboy?

>trans girls wont let me touch there dicks
>only want to little spoon
>more emotional than femboys

am i missing something
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>>9113166
no, go for a femboy
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>>9113166
>Why would I go for a trans girl over a trans girl?
I don't understand what you're asking here...
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Where's somewhere I can buy (non-prescription) glasses offline? I'm more afraid to buy stuff online and have it arrive where my family might open it than to buy it in person somewhere no-one knows me or cares about me.
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>>9113089
Oh shit what's gonna happen to Clover?
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>>9113277
i dunno maybe a GLASSES shop?
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>>9113281
is that a phone thing?
i only know about computer things, i don't use phone shit
have to do a search
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>>9113156
but then all of your posts are related to a account
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>>9113287
Aren't those only for people who need prescription lenses?
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>>9113166
because u are straight
u want to be the emotional big spoon
u want more dedication and cuteness
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is it normal that taking androcur intensified my inferiority complex by a billion?
send help
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>>9113391
woah but how do people wear the prescription lenses?? That's right they have to put them into something
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>>9113166
Because they're both the same thing except one is in denial and a ticking emotional breakdown

>>9115107
eat some meat and take a multivitamin you vegan
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>>9115120
but im not vegan
i just ate a hamburger

and isnt the vitamin thing a meme?
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>>9115125
yes vitamins are a spook you got kookachuchu'd
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>>9115128
i got bamboozledyboozed when i took the literal bluepills and made myself infertile lass
but it ok
anyway
i'll ask my mummy for some vitamins
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>>9115107
Just forget porn standarts. If someone have fake tits, fake ass and monster dick doesn't mean you are worse because not having all of this.
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>>9115150
>monster dick
how I know you're a chaser
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>>9115150
not about that familia
the most absurd shit like others having hobbies they genuinely like and seeing girls on the street with perfect outfits/hair
all spooks really
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>>9115155
Is anyone who ever watched tg porn a chaser? They really have 8+ inch dicks in every second video.
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I feel like admitting I'm trans to myself is like admitting I'm disabled only way worse, because no one will understand it and will attack me for it, but not admitting it doesn't make me more enabled. I'm still coming apart at the seams.
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>>9115175
>implying anyone would be envious of a big dick
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>>9116278
It's great, because you realize you're finally admitting something true about yourself. You can stop feeling guilty about the way that you are.
Then again you're admitting your a freak and a deviant. Try coming out to a friend, and if it feels like a lie there you go. If it doesn't you're now accountable to somebody about it.
You're right that being in denial won't make you happy, so just give up.
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>>9116369
I already came out to my mother, as I told her I have gender dysphoria. She gave me total support, but I don't know if she really understands what that implies... she's a long-time nurse so I'd like to think she does. All she said was to look out for my health before anything and left it at that. It still feels very hard to bring it up again in more detail.
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>>9116397
Good for you. You're ahead of the curve on that one. Of course she won't understand, but at least she's on your side, right?
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How do I know this shit isn't some kind of manifestation of my depression/boredom?
>Three years ago
>Not in a good place during summer at uni
>Drinking alone one night, break down thinking I might be trans
>Spend a month thinking deeply about it because my childhood is littered with trans signs (walking in my mum's heels, stealing women's underwear and wearing (not sexual), had dreams that I could control my hormones and release oestrogen, was happy when I was misgendered as a teenager, wanted longer hair and crossdressed in private because it felt 'normal')
>I could pass relatively easily with some titty skittles and makeup because I already look female from the neck down (Some of my pictures were taken and posted on /mtfg/ by some impersonating cunt) and I have androgynous facial structure
>Decide I couldn't see myself going through with the whole thing and couldn't picture myself being a woman at the end of it
>Feel happy about myself again and go about my life without it crossing my mind again
>Had a great three years
>Gave up the drink because it was doing bad shit to me
>Graduated, moved back in with my parents, not happy with life again
>The whole thing comes back again after being triggered by some transition story, unmovable pit in my stomach comes back
I don't fucking get it. I like how I look and dress, I don't hate my body, I love it in fact, but I have no idea if that's just because I got lucky and have feminine bone structure or not. I don't want to just let it sit and have this shit come up again, I'm 23 now and if this shit comes up again I'm going to a noose because I can't stand the fact that it can just randomly come up at any time and make me feel like shit again. It's so conflicting because I like some of my masculine traits at the same time like wearing a suit and I don't mind having a beard and I quite like having a dick and don't feel anything bad about it.

I know the usual answer, therapy etc, I'm venting more than anything though desu.
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>>9116579
Depression doesn't cause dysphoria, dysphoria causes depression. When you're bored and depressed though you spend more time ruminating over things so that might cause you to spend more time thinking about gender stuff.
Dysphoric feelings are almost certainly going to pop up repeatedly in the future.
In a lot of ways you'd be better off with more severe dysphoria because at least then there'd be no doubt about what you'd have to do.
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>>9116701
Yeah, that's sort of why I wish it could just be one way or the other. It's horrible because I feel like I'm sitting on a fence with the usual "I wish I could have been born as a girl / I wish I was trans so I could be a girl" on one side and "I like my current effeminate male appearance and typical male aspects" on the other side and both sides have the big old question "Will I regret making that choice?" stamped on them. I think I'm just going to have to stare out the window for a month and go through every scenario in my head again and come to a balance like last time. I just feel like this might be the last chance I get to make the choice myself before the door shuts so to speak. I think I'm just going to have to stare out the window again for a month going through the various scenarios in my head and come to a conclusion again like last time. Thanks for replying btw.
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>>9116811
Wew, my post was a mess just like my head is at the moment. Nothing new there I guess.
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considering giving up transition and tossing all my HRT, I dont know why im even doing this.
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>>9116876
you know why you are doing this
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Hey /mtfg/ question from someone about to start actively transitioning: My body type is pretty androgynous and my face can kinda pass after makeup. Only thing being that my hairline has fucked right up my head, how screwed am I? generally speaking
>pic unrelated
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>>9117114
I'm balding, just gonna save for hair transplantation. I can't fucking wait because no fulltime before that in any case.
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>>9117114
>>9117115
Just get a wig already
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>>9117114
this isn't mtfg
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>>9106545

at this point I feel like SRS is for the weak-willed and most mentally delusional among us
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>>9117371
what?
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>>9115114
Just buy a frame, and ask for normal lenses. You're done.
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Anyone else feel more confident after Danica Roem's election victory? Maybe we aren't so hated after all. The haters are loudmouths and want us to think they're more numerous than is the case.
Also it shows the importance of having some courage. I've let fear hold me back a lot and I think having more confidence should help a lot.
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>finally can put together a full female outfit
>feet look fucking huge
;_;
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what should i do
>kinda cuddleing/snuggleing with bf
>he is rubbing my legs and butt under my leggings
>gets to inner thigh
>ask if its okay; i say i think so
>he touches it a little
>my heart races and i start crying, i feel like im gonna scare him and make him realize im not a girl, just a failed man
>he kinda hold me tighter and says like "you are still a girl"
>still cry, he stops, moves his hand somewhere else
>feel gross rest of night and even today, nearly throw up when i find pre in my dick
What should i do, i told him to do it and he was respectfull and all, but i cant help thinking i ruined the facade that i was a girl and still feel girls. Fucking girl dont have dicks. Girls dont get hard.

This is the first time ive even considered srs
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>>9120854
I got srs because of genital dysphoria. It feels good not to have to worry so much about genitals.
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>try on a pair of girl jeans thinking I maybe can start wearing some
>they fit well except my hips are way too narrow
>rip them off and have a panic attack
I don't think I'm cut out for this transition thing
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ever think this pretending to be a girl stuff just makes dysphoria worse
it's like you go more and more insane over time
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>>9121536
>pretending
maybe in the sense that constantly performing my gender is a little tiring, but i feel better the further and further i go into it
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I genuinely want to cut it all off right now.
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>>9121597
iktf
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fuck everything
everything is fucked
everything is wrong
everything needs to stop
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>>9120854
You need to chill the fuck out lol. It’s not like he doesn’t know that you have a dick. I can’t speak for every other dude (personally I would have no interest in touching your dick, I think that’s a little weird) but it does not at all add or subtract from your womanly perception. It’s just there and you kinda mentally ignore it. You’re a girl and that’s how I would see it
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>leave parents a coming out letter telling them about my orientation and that I have gender dysphoria
>didn't think to go into heavy detail
>they accept me and basically just move on
>somehow get the impression they don't really understand dysphoria
this is so awkward but I feel too intimidated to explain it to them for fear of roasting
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>>9123613
just show them the contra vid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ayuqizp4fyY
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>>9123570
Thats what he says im a girl, but i have a dick, that doesnt make me less a girl.
I think i should just have him not touch it. I talked to him about it and he was concerned. really it was okay at the time but once im not with him no one is assuaring me im a "real" girl.
Thanks for the help, i love him so much
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>>9123618
Oh god is it really totally irreversible.
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>>9123639
>>9123618
The receding hair I mean. Ugh.
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>>9123618
that's pretty amazing but not sure if it would be good to show them
maybe...
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>>9123639
>>9123657
Heehhhhhhh I'm planning on hair transplant plus wearing it long, you'll be fine, just save the money.
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>>9106432
This is wrong to a degree. Mine has been growing for the last few years and still are. I'm 28. Not to mention the study about how hips keep growing for your whole life from 2011.
Then again the fact that I have woman hips to begin with may be related, but it definitely can grow bone-wise even way later if you're lucky.

Then again this is probably going into "special snowflakes cases that aren't normal to begin with" territory I guess.
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>>9121536
wait until you're 10+ years in to hrt

"we have such sights to show you"
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>>9123843
3.3mm over 60 years, it's basically nothing. The hip growth women get over a year isn't even visible to the eye, you'd need a microscope to see it.
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>tfw 24 and on HRT for 3 months and fat due to years of depressed overeating and only been turned around shortly before starting HRT

God I can't wait to be skinny again.
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>think my body is disgusting
>have a bit of fat on my waist, nothing too bad but it's there
>want to exercise
>always hear about how exercise increases testosterone
>scared of accidentally making my man body more mannish by exercising
I'm not hrt because I don't want to fuck myself up on the off chance this is just a phase, but should I just starve myself or what?
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how to get over low t fatigue
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>>9124735
How long are you into hrt?

I've been taking them for around a month and I don't bitch as I used to anymore. The first few days or weeks was polarizing though. I think I can't live with this much energy.

Makes you think how cis women deals with it, on top of discharge and sudden hormonal change and mental effects every month.
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>>9124717
>should I just starve myself or what?
worked for me, also not hrt and felt a little fat. cut what i usually ate by nearly half, was a tough first week but now i almost feel sick if i eat the amount i used to. lost a fair bit of weight in only about a month in.
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>>9124832
I'll try that and see how it works. Thanks anon.
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>>9124770
almost a year
it only got worse over time
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I feel my adams apple and i cry
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>>9125150
Do they make a noticeable bulge like

they stick out?
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>>9120854
>Fucking girl dont have dicks.
Your existence disproves that, doesn't it? You're a girl. You have a dick.
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>>9120854
I know this was supposed to be sad but it's extremely cute. You bf is pretty good.
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>>9125262
yes.
even more pronounced when i wear a button-up shirt. it's right at the button part and leaving it unbuttoned looks sleazy and leaving it buttoned pushes against my adams apple bulge and makes me constantly aware of it
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>>9125548
Off the surgeon you go, anon. I feel sorry for you.
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>>9125558
i will
im gonna bring it up to my psych soon
i feel guilt towards my parents for spending all their hard-saved money for me on it but i have no othr choice
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>>9125561
Same anon. I'm shitting on my allowance for girl pills. Ironically that is similar being a crack guy
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>>9125570
>>9125561
i've actually got lots of guilt for my dad about making him do this with me. He has to go run around to the city to see docs, pay for ALL this crap, be a emotional crutch and continue to pay child support even though my mom disowned me months ago.
Apparently he is okay and likes being able to help me. He says he can see im happier, but just the expenses and special treatment i get compared to my brother makes me feel like i'm such a burden.

Anyone else guilty for the pain transitioning puts on everyone else?
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>>9125584
burden was the word i was looking for

>>9125570
i did the same last year
saved up few hundreds over the years ans suddenly have to buy €87 girl pills
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Ae get incredibly horny after realizing you were trans? Just wondering if that's normal to have right before starting hrt
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what's the best hair removal solution?

body and face. I bought a corded IPL home usage thing but it doesn't seem to do shit.
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>>9125797
Laser done by a professional.
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>>9125787
No, it's not. Stop right now, because you're 99% likely not trans. Ask yourself- are you interested in cis women sexually? If you answer yes, congrats! You're not trans! Figure out some way to get over your personal issues without appropriating a term and identity that isn't yours.
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>>9125802
but skinflint
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>>9125825
It's so much better in the long run that I ended up just saving money and getting it in the end.
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>>9125787
Well I always thought myself a cis straight guy despite all the faggy shit I was doing, turns out I'm a straight trans woman. Now, when I think about men I legit go weak in the knees.

Annnd so I ordered my first dildo, because I can't masturbate anymore.
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>>9125787
No, I actually broke down and couldn't even get an erection for a month let alone even think about masturbating. I tried a week after it hit me and it was horrible, didn't work at all and I felt sick.
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>>9125803
I figured that it might have something to do with my depression mostly going away, but oh well. Guess I'll go back to wishing I were a girl and ignoring my feminine self image.
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>>9125895
Happy next breakdown
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What is the ideal BMI for passing?
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>>9125895
>depression going away
Confirmed not trans.
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>>9125923
Thicc- between normal and obese.
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>>9125923
mine is 21.6 and i don't so we can cross that one out
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>>9125895
either you have tremendous genetics, are delusional, aren't trans or are ignorant desu senpai.
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any ideas/hax for styling growing hair in a pretty androgynous way?

am boymode a lot more of the time than I'd like to be. My hair is thick, fairly straight and pretty unruly desu.
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>>9125986
Post pix
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>>9125989
nah, too hideous.
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>>9125570
voice training and muscle control helps a bit

>>9125787
>>9125895
Ignore the blanchardian idiots
My depression started going away too and it brought my libido wayyy up because I stopped feeling disgusted and ashamed of how I thought I had to express my sexuality.
Traditional masc/fem roles assigned to male and females were so limiting, I'm much happier being able to explore myself as who I really am.

>>9126007
blur your face
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>>9125986
Get a bob. Bangs increase the qtness. I have one and to me it makes me look unambiguously feminine but strangers at work seem to disagree. So no worries about ruining your boymode
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>>9126088
my last haircut was a short back and sides during a fit of denial/repression, it's currently much longer on top than the back and sides.

I'm planning on evening up that discrepancy gradually while still growing it but that wasn't that long ago.
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>>9126104
That's basically what I did. It took almost a year to go from shaved on the sides and back to bob length. You'll probably just have to accept that you'll look like a dork for at least a few months, but it will help if you have a stylist who knows your goals.

And, you know, don't cut off all your hair again lol
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>>9126036
>I'm a blanchardian for telling a man to stop appropriating my identity and making it worse for trutrans like me
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>>9126036
>>9126088
>>9126114
filename
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>>9126128
Yeah just keep the bangs and grow out the rest. Eat well and maybe even take folic acid if you want it to go faster.
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>>912611
No, I see you're just a fool now. You never see this shit for trans boys. Is it appropriation if you're trans in every way except heteronormativity? Makes no fucking sense and you're probably just baiting me so I'm not going to dignify you with a full reply.

>>9125787
It's your male sex drive and the fetishization of trans girls, especially on this damn site, making you pop. Expect it to go away once you start and be replaced by a regular, high sex drive.
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>>9126128
looks ok ngl

>>9126088
>tfw essentially have a bob and just look like a hobo regardless
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>>9125928
>want to die
>decide to transition
>less interested in an hero
>confirmed not trans
k

>>9126036
This. It's so nice to stop burying major parts of your personality because they make you look "weak".

>>9126145
>Expect it to go away
That's what I was assuming. I'm so done this this.
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but what if my depression slightly increased as i started transition? :thinking:
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>>9126196
It means that transitioning fucking sucks, especially in the beginning. Problems take as long to fix as they took to create
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>>9126196
>>9126348
whether you transition or not life as a tranner is pretty well summed up by the serenity prayer.

>God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
>Courage to change the things I can,
>And wisdom to know the difference.

I'm not transitioning, there's too much that I cannot change about myself that I couldn't get over.
I love all you girls & I hope you find the contentment I fear I never will.
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>>9105861
Shit, last time I smoked marijuana I looked in the mirror while really high and I saw a face completely different from what I usually see.

Usually when sober I see a cute lil girly face, definitely passing. I think it might even be passable to others because homeless guys would call me gorgeous and they are always the ones to be truthful about what they see, along with little kids. "God bless you sir", etc.

I smoked marijuana and looked in the mirror to see my face, except with exaggerated masculine features. I got a glimpse into what my face would've looked like if I had allowed puberty to continue and testosterone to masculinize my face. And I looked like one damn handsome Chad, I could've gotten girls with a face like that.

But here's the issue. I know that trans girls are often delusional about their own appearance and say they're stealth when they still obviously look like men.

I want to know which vision of myself was closer to reality, seeing myself when sober or seeing myself when high. Is it possible that being high allowed me to see what my face REALLY looks like, without my delusional brain distorting it to look like a cute girl face? Or am I really just as cute as I see it when sober, and being high distorted it away from reality?
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I got some girl clothes and felt happy wearing them, but i'm starting to wonder if I'm just satisfying a crossdressing fetish because now I want to buy more.
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>>9126555
>but i'm starting to wonder if I'm just satisfying a crossdressing fetish
What's the difference?
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>>9126530
Your brain distorts everything you see in a mirror regardless. The best way of seeing what you actually look like is by taking a video. This is because the camera doesn't flip your face horizontally and so it doesn't look like the person you see in the mirror.
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>>9126581
This meme of "lol you look different cause the mirror flips your image" is stupid because even though your reverse image looks odd to you, it looks normal to everyone else because they're used to it, just like you're used to your own mirror image.
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>>9126591
Huh? I meant you should look at videos of yourself, not in the mirror. Your mind literally fucks with your personal image when looking in the mirror, most people perceive themselves to be more attractive than they are when looking in a mirror, or more ugly depending on their mental attitude. It's to do with self-awareness. I'll try to find some links for it, but there's quite a bit of research into this kind of stuff.
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>>9124340
The fact that there is growth at all is all you need to know about. I'm not saying that it means that anyone will grow monster hips, but it opens the door for special snowflake genetic freaks who could have a growth way more important. The point is that the time limit isn't absolute. (but of course betting on this wouldn't be wise, this kind of case is probably even rare than being a boy with wide hips to begin with)
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why do i think everyone else is better than i am and why do i care
maybe i should stop getting more passing tranny friends

i ahte this i hate me
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>>9125382
i love him so much. i dont want to mess it up by being a fake approximation of female, or mentally ruined, or constantly depressed, but i think he likes me for me and it will be okay.
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How do I know if my dysphoria is real or not? Is there even such a thing as faking it?
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>>9126992
for me the true test was waiting a year until it goes away
it didn't
i can't go outside without feeling sad because there's cis girls everywhere and i'll never be like them
i'm still thinking "what am i actually doing to my biologically male body" but at least i fully believe my dysphoria is a real and i want to be a girl
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>>9127004
I did wait a year and it did go away, but it's come back
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>>9127009
i have no experience with that sorry
do you have any idea what made it go away? repression or did it just fade away by itself as you got busier with things?
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>>9126555
>I got some girl clothes and felt happy wearing them, but i'm starting to wonder if I'm just satisfying a crossdressing fetish because now I want to buy more.
are you joking or what
it's fun to buy and wear new clothes
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>>9127009
>>9126992
>>9127004
>>9127014
dysphoria is not always at 100%
it can go away for days or weeks
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>>9127014
It went away when I came back to God, but evidently that wasn't enough. I kept my long hair, and I actually looked okay, especially after I starved myself during Great Lent. Dysphoria came back after I stopped looking a little androgynous.
Is it a phase or a fetish?
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>>9127043
>god
i feel so sorry for you
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i feel like i could've known how to do makeup by now if i tried
but i didn't
because i'm a shit

and also because my skin is sensitive and i usually couldn't shave enough for the stubble not to fuck up the application of makeup/get irritated because i'm new to this
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>shaved legs 4 hours ago, smooth as something smooth
>already stubble again
just die in my sleep already
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I'm 5'8", and all my body measurements and face are pretty good other than
>12" hips
are my hips narrow enough to wreck my chances at passing?
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>>9127391
How long have you been on E?
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>>9127402
My sympathies, those are really narrow hips. How are your shoulders? Are you on HRT yet? Age?
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>>9127391
>shaving
Well there's your problem, try an epilator or waxing
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>>9126945
> fake approximation of female
I really think you're thinking about this the wrong way. You're not a fake female. You're a real female. You can't dispute that.
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>>9127570
Close to a year.

>>9127996
Many horror stories there too
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:(
I'm so desperate I'll do anything.
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Totally serious question: Is possible to meme yourself into thinking you are tranny and have dysphoria aka having tranny ocd. Because when I hear tranners that rhey wouldn't wish to be cured of dysphoria, while Indo made me think
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>>9128562
Yes it's possible. Good luck figuring it out no idea what the fuck the last half of your post is though.
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>>9128566
I mean, when I read how some trannies wrote that they wouldn't want to be cured of dysphoria of dysphoria if it was was possible, while I do want, it made me think. Now idk if this /pol/ speaking or whatever. Do you have any idea how this memeing usually happen and how common it is
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>>9128547
You have to emphasize other parts of your body!

Like you can mask your torso with draping or looser clothes, leave your neck bare (if you don't mind your Adam's apple), cinch your waist with a belt, let some flare at your hips, or you know, make people look at your butt or something like this.
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how do I stop being a bitter piece of garbage unlikable foreveralone who cant even get e-friends?

(here is a sad picture to make you feel sorry for me and respond)
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>>9128577
Idk about the meme stuff, but I wish I could either be fully cured of this feeling and live as cis or just be born a girl instead. I sort of accepted there's fuck all I can do about it though and I can't repress it so I just went with it. There's not a good "one case fits all" for this though, and everyone's feelings vary. Some people are fine with their genitals, others want to chop it off every time they see it. The one thing that is common with almost all of them though, is they want to be recognized on a daily basis as female, regardless of how they might look, they just want to pass without harassment or second guessing. I second guessed myself all the time because I liked my body pre-HRT and didn't feel bad about it, but that's because I had a 1 in a million body shape that made people wonder if I was intersex or already very far in to HRT. Nobody can answer these questions and feelings for you, your best bet is just to sit down and think about how you would feel looking male or female in a few years, be realistic and think about in a social environment how you would feel about that, how you would feel presenting as one gender and the other, and try to find an image you would feel the most comfortable with.
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>>9128577
>>9129134
Also, you've got to understand most trans people that are more than a year into transitioning probably wouldn't want to get rid of their dysphoria because it's sort of the same as de-transitioning, they'd feel dysphoria again suddenly because they look female when they now suddenly feel cis male.
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>>9129134
>>9129153
Thanks for thoughtful reply, because I am kind of confused about this. Firstly, because my feelings were mostly sexual till my sex drive died because of anxiety of last year (agp), which is with since my very first fap and before I discover porn of any kind. I feel envious of girls sometimes and just admiring them, which sometimes mix with attraction in strange way. For info: Both of my girlfriends were shortish tomboyish brunettes while most of my crushes were tall femme women. I have strange relationship with my genitals as they annoy me but I don't really hate them really, and I can't really imagine having vagina. About body, I am generally just disconnected from it, and reflection feel like, a mask? But I am not really disgusted by it again. That said I suffer quite bad depression.

Now, what made me question before mentioned feelings are two things. While I can imagine being a women till like 60 or something, I can't really imagine becoming old grandma, and idk, perhaps old fart seems better, but then again, this also can be connected to the fact that when I imagine myself as a girl I actually care about my looks, which as a man, I don't. Second think that make it seems like I am memeing myself into it is not knowing since I was a small kid - few memories and knowing my girl name since little. Third, is the fact that I have almost exclusively male interests and hobbies.

Now when I think I am memeing and I could never be a girl this make me sad, but on the other hand, specially this aging thing, it raise a red flag against it.
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>>9129302
>Third, is the fact that I have almost exclusively male interests and hobbies.
That's normal for AGP transwomen. Questioners shouldn't expect themselves to be HSTS if they're trans.
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>>9129341
What about my aging doubts? I feel this is like biggest red flag.
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>>9129396
You shouldn't reply to a blanchtard.
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>>9129396
What you want to be like old doesn't make you trans or not. It's just a factor to consider when thinking about transition.
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>>9129302
>>9129396
You're talking when you're about 60, I don't think anyone can think of themselves as an old person because we all cling to youth because of our fear of growing old/dying. I'd say think about how you feel about your looks when you consider yourself in 5 years as male and as female, I never put in the effort as a teenager to look male and I could never see myself suddenly putting in the effort when I was older, but I could see it if I wanted to look more feminine or passing. Idk what your hobbies are, but I rebuild classic American muscle cars in my garage in spare time, but I don't think it matters that much because I also like to do sowing and making clothes for myself, there's no single definition for this kind of stuff. Whenever I thought about the future without transitioning and staying male, I couldn't see a future where I didn't become a hermit and close myself off from the world around me, often with copious amounts of alcohol in the middle of nowhere, but I felt the opposite about transitioning. I mean shit, most people by the time they get to 60 are just happy to be alive and have their health, I'd say focus on maybe 25-50 would be better as that's most of your 'normal' life.
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>>9128634
So there's nothing I can do to actually alter my figure? Not even take just a couple of inches off?
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>>9129856
Uh, not really anything I'd recomment really... I mean maybe, but I don't really know about that. How much have you managed to reduce your muscle mass in that area?
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>>9129341
Fuck off back to reddid
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>>9129856
you can't change bone structure except without expensive surgeries
could try corset training but i recommend a lot of moderation and finding some better resources than 4chan for it
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>>9129341
why're you so proud of being a homosexual transtrender
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>got a really bad shaving cut because I had to buy super low quality razors because I need to make money for HRT

hahaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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>>9130036
i just steal them
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>>9130036
you can buy 10$ boots every winter of 100$ boots every lifetime

epilate
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>come out to mother
>she tells me to start taking testosterone
What the fuck? I didn't even know how to respond. Coming out to your parents is a mistake, lasses.
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>>9130036
I bought 100 razor blades off Amazon for $10 and they work quite fine
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I find it really sad that some of you guys struggle with money for HRT. I dunno, just seems wrong to me. I’d help if I could but I know the world doesn’t work like that.
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>>9130891
Sometimes it is gatekeeping, the others are limitations on healthcare, and there is closet who can't muster enough confidence to see a doctor.
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>>9130958
i self med for less than 2 dollars a day
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>>9130982
Tell me more
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>>9130982
I prescription med for 22 cents a day.
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>>9130982
Mines around 3.5 to 4 dollars each day.
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>>9130994
12.5 mg of cypro for ~75 c, 4mg estradiol for 68c
also i like bought bitcoin to buy meds and the leftover money is somehow always worth enough for another 6 months supply
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>>9131057
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>>9105908
you will get bad muscle cramps and osteoporosis t. someone who was too lazy to take his pills
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>>9130756
what the fuck
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>>9131101
just went and took a vitamin right after reading this
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>>9131101
you dont ever eat like eggs and fish or drink some vitaminized milk? I live in the north see no sun literally for months and Im fine with no supplements
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Is it worth paying for VirtualFFS? Or is it just overpriced AGP fap fodder?
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>>9131057
25bica +4mg (overpriced french) progy ~1.2$ day +vitamins for cheapo
if I find where to buy gel/patches for good price it could be even cheaper and more effective
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Who does /mtfg/ have such an awful culture and attract so many trip and namefags? I honestly believe it's the most wretched, horrible place on this site. It also always bothered me when I saw the people there use the excuse of "oh it's a hugbox" when it's the exact opposite of that. It's literally 90% tripfags being stepford smilers, circlejerking in their discord or skype groups, and taking off said trips to anonymously shittalk each other. It's so bad that they even brigade other threads, you can see normal discussions happening and if something controversial gets brought up it will obviously get posted in one of their circlejerks and 4-5 of them will suddenly pile into the thread to shitpost and make themselves unwelcome.

It worries me wondering how many people have looked at /mtfg/, went "oh christ, that's how trans people act?" then either repressed or became transphobic. That place is on the same level as Susans in my mind.
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>>9134427
*Why
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>>9134427
4chan culture + female herd think/hierarchy + mental illness and you get mtfg
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>>9134427
Attention seeking.
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>>9134427
>and taking off said trips to anonymously shittalk each other
>t. /mtfg/
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So. I got on hrt when I was 17, and was on it for about 4 months before deciding I could handle being male. In the ~8 months that I was off, the hair on my chest / the stripe from the pubic area to the belly button went from essentially invisible to 4-5 actual dark hairs and the rest of the finer hair got longer and a bit darker. I checked my back for the first time today and there's definitely semi-dark fine hair on parts of it.

Will this go back to light hair after enough time on hrt, or will I need to get it removed? or is that type of hair normal for women as well?
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>>9137792
>back hair
>normal for women

no, you'll need to get it removed
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>>9137808
well it isn't like beard hair or anything. It's barely darker than the fine blonde hairs.
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>>9137792
I did more research into ketamine before I ever snorted a line of the stuff

have some responsibility for gods sake
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Some of my trans friends take estrogen pills and the amounts they mention are stuff like 4 mg to 8 mg..
However I'm on estrogen patches instead of pills, and my package just says 0.1 mg a day. I'm assuming this is because some of it is lost when using pills, but what does 0.1 mg patch correspond to as a pill dose?
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anon that trimmed their hair a few weeks back and instantly regretted it here.
still hate myself for giving in while i watch it grow back slowly and curly-like

i have been doing a lot of thinking and my therapist told me to look at the positive parts and let go of the negative, so the positive part here is that this is yet another hard lesson for me and my dependency issues in the sense that I should never listen to others entirely again and just do what I want instead

please
never trim your hair while growing it out
no matter how bad it gets
hold on ok
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>>9137818
>>9137808
it's fine, i've been around enough girls to know that they can still get a fine layer of thin hairs on their body
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Does it matter where I go for laser hair removal? Will most places generally do a good job?
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This is an interesting thread:
>>9125236
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>>9141950
Try to get recommendations from people who have had good results from a particular place.
>tfw on a Do As Infinity binge
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>9142038
The larper is shilling itself. How quaint.
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>>9142038
Hi, I made that thread. I'm glad you find it interesting.
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Should I only epilate my lower legs, or are there other regions I should tackle as well?
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>>9125803
>are you interested in cis women sexually? If you answer yes, congrats! You're not trans!
How can anyone be this retarded? It's appalling.
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>>9144222
they know they're talking out of their ass
it's just their agenda
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>>9144212
I like to do my arms. Don't do your crotch you'll probably bleed
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>>9144212
How are your thighs?
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Any traps looking for a boyfriend?
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>>9148931
You might have better luck finding traps in /femgen/.
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>>9148931
>>9148946
Both are okay with me. Should have mentioned that.
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I think I'm ready to give up.
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>That feel when there will never be a guy who wants to marry me
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>>9148952
there are only trannies here
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>>9149518
>>9149177
don't give up girls
you don't know that
you can find love
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>>9149613
But it feels like that everytime I tell I get dumbed or a guy cheats me. I just want to cry
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>>9149518
I've been talking to one for a few weeks now that I met on FF (cliche, I know) and things seem to be pretty good so far. Just keep putting yourself out there and keep your head up :)
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>>9149613
Tfw all guys I have met have dropped me when I told them and girls are shit company
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>>9149953
>>9149708
my only social interaction is on 4chan discord servers
i have met a lot of nice people and my bf this way
i feel like getting to know people on discord is a really natural way to meet people and you don't have to worry about any irl social bullshit
can totally just be yourself and if the other person doesn't like that who you are, it's not awkward and you can leave or ignore them
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>>9150173
i think part of it is that IRL culture is just cancer these days. everyone has some meme social circle or hierarchy that they want to stick to whereas on the internet its a bit more of a free for all. i guess it helps that most of us are loners too. but ye im the same way, 4chan discords are gr8
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>>9150203
i have never had anyone irl
always just been internet and i have never been able to do irl interaction
i was totally alone until i started using discord
it saved me, i was going to kill myself, i was totally losing my mind
but now i have friends and someone who loves me and i am going to meet them soon
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>>9150220
happy to hear that anon. ive been lucky enough to have plenty of IRL friends but for some reason the romantic aspect is just something i cant initiate in person so discord and the internet has definitely helped. i hope it works out for you two :-)
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>>9149518
There is, and I am one of those guys.
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Finally set up the appointment with nottingham. I still have a bad feeling from what I have read on this board but I have waited too long to not go through with it.
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i think lack of T is making me feel sad
i don't want to do anything and have no motivation to build up anything (playing games, practicing guitar)
i also compare myself negatively to others a lot more than usual
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>>9152712
it sounds like you maybe shouldn't be on anti-androgens. hrt is supposed to reduce negative mental health consequences, not increase them.
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>>9152721
The thing is that I really want to end up as a transwoman, and, in the end, finish transition.
For me HRT has two sides. One where I notice the differences of becoming more feminine and another where this makes me more aware of not being feminine enough to pass and together with that low T which causes B12 deficiency
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>>9152712
>>9152756
You can take vitamin supplements.

Also you can change around your HRT regimen until you find something better. Are you getting blood tests, and if so are your levels solidly within the female ranges? Not being exactly in the middle is fine, but if you're like 5% above the minimum that's too low (especially taking into account that it's likely to fluctuate below that level). Many of the negative effects of low testosterone tend to only apply in combination with low oestrogen. You might want to try different drugs, take progesterone, increase your oestrogen dosage, or lower your antiandrogen dosage (though not enough to put you in the male range).

>For me HRT has two sides. One where I notice the differences of becoming more feminine and another where this makes me more aware of not being feminine enough to pass
I know that feeling. I think it's important to think of transition as a process. It can be disappointing to be happy with your progress in some areas and then realise that not everything is fixed (or that some things are even worse), but in the end you know you're constantly improving your body, and that you're eventually going to end up happier. It's also worth noting that oestrogen makes you more emotional, so that can make it harder to deal with dysphoria or make it more easily triggered.
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hey cozy edition, anyone else a complete failure both in life and more specifically at transition, and want to kill themselves?
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>>9152712
>i think lack of T is making me feel sad
I thought estrogen gave you an emotional high?
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>>9153068
It's not a magical potion.
It makes me more emotional in general. I cry a lot more and I'm extra happy and blissful a lot more.
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>>9152712
It’s just in your head anon. I have more androgens in my blood right now than everyone in this thread combined and I’m sad too
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>>9153813
What the fuck is going on there? That's insane.
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>>9153813
When I took bicalutamide it turned out i had a very high amount of T too
I guess even before that I was sad too
You're probably right

Must just be tbe general sadness of being a tranny
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>>9152984
/repgen/ has a higher concentration of failures than this thread, I think.
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>>9149518
Don´t give up!
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I´m a straight guy and I am gonna leave my girlfriend. There are various reasons for that but mostly its her annoying way of disrespecting me in various ways also the lack of sex, feelings and even saying that she loves me would be nice but no there are zero hugs, kisses or anything. She only cares about herself and I am so fucking tired of it.
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>>9157757
Why are you telling us this?
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>>9157757
Sounds like you’re a puss who can’t deal with confrontation.
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>>9157760
Because trannies are selfish-fucks.
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>>9157810
You mean one specific person you know. You can't generalize from n=1.
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>>9153813
>>9154773
Maybe that is bica that spiked testosterone. However bica blocks androgen receptors, so all that test wouldn't do anything. Estradiol at 49 is too low. I feel shitty - more low energy and amotivated than sad - below about 100.
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How do I keep my legs shaved? It's hard to get everything and there's a bunch to shave...
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>>9161052
Wax/Epilate
Shave twice or more as often. If you miss a spot you will probably get it next time, and nothing will have a chance to grow very much. Shaving is easier when there's not much to shave.
There's always laser too, though legs are obviously not top priority.
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>never exercise
>never eat
>muscular arms
What the fuck?
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>>9161082
Yeah, I guess I just gotta stop being lazy and shave every time I shower.
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>>9161098
That's what I do. If I'm in a hurry I can skip it but it's easier if I keep up with shaving.
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d-do you want to join our faggy discord for all the fags.
https://discord.gg/njNZnmH
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>>9161098
>>9161082
i can get by with epilatng once a week and its only a little fuzzy by the last 2 days
over time it makes shaving easier too and hurts less.
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>>9112872
>>someone compares you voice to a dick woman
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>>9162240
( ._.)
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Drugs sounds like the solution to all my problems.
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New thread:

>>9164188
>>9164188
>>9164188
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>>9161915
don't join, is a ded little shit hole




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