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Please tell me I'm not the only LGBT guy on here besides that one desperate chasing old dude that's stuck in the craphole known as Illinois
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Your whole country is a craphole desu
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>>9373075
What if we made it a tranny containment state? Would it honestly be bad for ANYONE else if we put them into camps?
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>>9373147
>mad he isn’t allowed in
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>>9373147
Free doesn't mean free.

And Illinois is a shithole, I won't deny that. Whole country? Nah. Just the liberal states.
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>>9373151
Uhhh... trans people have equal rights so long as they are legal US citizens. Can't force them all into one spot, lol. You know they would just get shot by black gang members. They don't deserve that.
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>>9373075
Come next door. Those only a few of us cuties in Indiana, but we're really nice.

Assuming we don't rough you up for meth money, of course.
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>>9373180
I don't think I've ever heard anything bad in particular about Indiana. Must be a decent state.
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>>9373196
nah, epicenter of american industrial decline and the heroin epidemic. I'd stay out.
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>>9373209
Its that bad, really? Still can't be worse than New York or Commiefornia for legal citizens... right?
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>>9373147
You're absolutely right, still better than most countries though, which one do you inhabit
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>>9373209
W-we are? When did that happen? I mean you may be right, but I figured it was meth. My area has had like 50 meth busts in the last few years, it's endemic. North Indiana was hit by the loss of steel but central weathered that about 25 years ago. Dunno bout southern, Kentuckiana is out of my purview.

Heroin, huh. No doubt 'recently arrived' from Detroit and Atlanta.
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>>9373169
Yeah we need to change that.
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>>9373311
Did a trans person harm you in some way anon? You're among friends, you can talk about it.
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>>9373328
Yeah when they lied about not being gay. Makes gay people look bad.
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>>9373335
Lolwut?

Not all trans people are gay, mah dude. In fact I would think most aren't.
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>>9373390
men who have sex with other men are gay whether they wear dresses or not.
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>>9373400
Do you need a hug anon?
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>>9373075
Im a guy from /pol/ stuck in Illinois HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
You have to share a state that only has Middle/southern Illinois /pol/acks and Chiraq chasers. I think it's time you move out to cali before political warfare starts happening in Illinois.
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>>9373427
Move out to Cali? It's even worse there.
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>>9373463
Nah, Illinois is going to be the first state to fall or break up into two different states. The unions are communist, Michael Madigan is a Putin, and light political terrorists are already coming out of Illinois. Examples of terrorist incidents- Republican senator assassination attempt incident and the Bruce Rauner Fake anthrax assassination scare.
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>>9373488
I guess it could happen. Really wouldn't doubt it people are so divided here
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>>9373496
There isn't a could. It is going to happen in the next 5-6 years. The pension system has to be cut and the dems won't do it. Ethically Illinois's system is the worst in the Union because of the dems. The state is going into Treasury Security failure mode not dissimilar to what's happening in Puerto Rico. The sales taxes in portions of this state are the highest in the union. Also even though I love Trumps tax plan, any liberal state is going to get screwed out the buttocks from what it does, except Illinois will be the worst hit from it because it's already in a dire state.
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>>9373564
You're scaring me anon ;.;

If it actually does happen that soon, well, atleast I probably will have moved by then. Hate it here already.
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>>9373587
Here's the cherry on the top, as more people leave the state as what is already happening right right now due to increased taxes. The Tax revenue for the state will only bleed more and sink the ship all the faster.
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>>9373609
That makes sense. There arent as many people being forced into paying out the ass for taxes anymore, socialist policies won't last forever.
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>>9373075
What part of corn land?
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>>9373712
Near (if not in) Lake County
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>>9373771
You're a stone's throw from civilization though
t. Champaign County
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>>9373162
Kek, weak bait
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>>9373981
Shitcago still totally sucks ass
t. Rogers Park
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>>9373990
Bait? How is it bait? I'm not a socialist, nor do I enjoy paying ultra high taxes and losing rights to the government.
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>>9374005
Then stop voting republican, you actual brainlet
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>>9373996
Just get out while you can, don't take the highways though, you'll get shot and end up on a /cpd/ -/pol/ after action report. Find a helicopter or something.
t.Bloomington
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>>9374036
Anon pls. Everyone knows it's democrats that love high taxes. Sure, republicans aren't doing enough about it, but they aren't going out of their way to make it worse. Or cover up welfare abuse and crime in liberal cities. Trying to import more criminals, etc.
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>>9374036
Do you live in Illinois?
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>>9374055
I really don't know how to go about having this conversation with you desu, I can't show you anything you can't find yourself to show you that the exact opposite is true and even if I did you wouldn't believe it
>>9374060
No, I live in Washington, another state that people claim is gonna break apart any minute now because one side is red and the other is blue
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>>9374123
You're right, there isn't anything that can make me believe in what you do. Because I've experienced liberalism first hand. I've been to Chicago as well and it's a complete shithole ridden with crime and disease, filled with idiots. It's sickening. It's sad what democrats do to their own people. Sad that the "rightwings," for the most part don't do shit about it. Though some do try of course.
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>>9374123
Washington bond Rating-AA+
Illinois bond rating-BBB
Sauce- http://www.treasurer.ca.gov/ratings/current.asp
The rating agencies have basically said they're gonna rate Illinois bonds junk in a couple of years if it doesn't solve its pension crisis.
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I'm in Chicago suburbs. I hate it slightly less after visiting Shithole, IN recently. My local homosphere is full of flakes who'd rather jerk off and/or ghost. Kinda fucking gets to me after literally preparing my asshole for the upteenth time and cleaning my apartment for no reason.
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>>9374153
No, you won't believe me because politics is tribal and will probably continue to be for the rest of time. I could show you how facts and figures that show corruption exists in both parties and that its not related to economic policy or how its not the result of "liberalism" and that in general the economy is better under democrats or I could even explain the republican tax bill in detail to show you how it raises taxes on the poor and middle classes, but none of that would matter to you because it doesn't have to, you'll continue believing as you do likely for the rest of your life without challenging your own beliefs while continuing to reinforce your beliefs because that's just the way things are.
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>>9374274
Which area? 847 here
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>>9374291
We're close, but I've given up even trying a casual fuck for now. It's seriously been so ridiculous.
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>>9374288
Economy better under democrats? Lol. Like Obama?

And I never denied both parties are corrupt and care little for LEGAL CITIZENS, only. Just that democrats clearly care less. Unless you're black, an illegal, a drug user, or a member some other group they can use, they don't give a shit about you. Same with republicans really but they don't do it as often.

And do you deny that the media is predominantly liberal and that they promote degeneracy? Ghetto culture, self entitlements, violence, and the like?
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>>9373162
True. Ohio is where its at.
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>>9374288
I challenge my beliefs all the time. However, I 100% blame the democrats for this situation because it is the truth. Hell, democrats non-loyal to Michael Madigan have said it themselves that the sucker is the king of Illinois and can do what he wants. Chiraq has some of the worst gun violence in the nation due to the Illinois democrats. They refuse to have ethics reform and any governor that crosses Michael Madigan gets kaputted. Michael Madigan drew what has been called the worst gerrymandering in the whole union. This sucker is even willing to go so far as to create phantom candidates for his district election so the opponent loses and ye old patronage armies exist in Illinois in large numbers. If the Republican Party was responsible for this in Illinois... I would blame them too. But in this situation the democrats are to blame full fold. Micheal Madigan has twisted committees in Illinois to work for him and only him and has blocked many a bill he doesn't like. This guy bases cook counties property tax legislation not on efficiency but on how much he gets from his lawyer business that deals in taxes.
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>>9374399
If you love heroin
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>>9374353
Look, I understand and appreciate the conservative perspective (not their policy positions, just why they hold them) even though my first message certainly didn't seem that way, which is why I don't think this conversation will go anywhere. The fact of the matter is unless you change your perspective(spoilers: probably won't happen and if it did it wouldn't be because of some internet conversation) you're not going to be able to see those "entitlements" and "promoting promoting degeneracy" through the lens that other people see them. Not to mention, you probably don't want to anyways.
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>>9374454
Of course alot of people can't see the degeneracy and lack of morals promoted by the media. That's how brainwashing works. It's best performed when the people victimized by it can't even see whats wrong with society, what might be wrong with themselves.
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>>9374476
No, because I used to think like you do because I bought in to propaganda and only stopped because I realized I stopped viewing people as people and complicated situations as complicated situations. Instead of being intellectually honest and acknowledging that things are nuanced, everything I disliked became degeneracy and anything contrary to that was either dishonest or liberal propaganda.
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>>9374518
I mean Chicago has been caught stuffing the ballot boxes for christs sake and that isn't fake news, it's a running joke in Illinois that if you get shot in Chicago, that you'll become a resident of Cook county forever.
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>>9374518
There are things that are degenerate, period. Not controversial to anyone unless they're insane, plain degenerate. Singing about drugs fucking prostitutes and living for objects and money is degenerate. Expecting others to pay for your welfare is degenerate. Thinking that killers rapists and people who break federal law are decent people, degenerate.

I used to be a liberal, you know. When I smoked pot and was in high school. I didn't see anything wrong with most of what I said. I grew up.
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>>9374518
I appreciate the effort m8, but you're never going to talk any sense into this kid.
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>>9374541
You're doing exactly what I was talking about, you know. I'd suggest critically examining your behavior, maybe you'd see what I'm talking about.
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>>9374544
>Doesn't promote the idea that not having morals is alright
>Is a kid

Seems legit. Yea, you're right. Nothing is wrong. Everything is subjective. Rape murder and cheating on your spouse is okay in some situations. Just depends on the person.
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>>9374555
Do you expect people NOT to point out or acknowledge the things that are wrong with society? Or do you just think its all okay?
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>>9374564
The problem is that his viewpoint simplifies everything to "things I dont like are bad and things I do are good". Are there things that are bad because they hurt people and cause problems? Sure, but chances are those aren't the "degenerate" things he's talking about, nor do I think that he views these problems as complicated matters that require more than bans to solve.
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>>9374544
There is no sense to it. You're a nut if you vote for Democrats that support Michael Madigan in Illinois and that's the end of it. Scott Drury, if you live in Illinois and you refuse to vote republican, at least vote for an Anti-Madigan democrat candidate.
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Used to live in Illinois till I found my bf on gaygen and moved to Kansas to live with him. Haven't looked back since. I love KC, KS.
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I moved here not too long ago. Anyone around Bloomington/Normal?
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>>9374319
Have you ever had a succesful hook up?




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