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>I'm Mailing It In Edition

BEHOLD! The Blessed Charts!
FANTASY
Selected:
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General:
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Flowchart:
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SCIENCE FICTION
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General:
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NPR's Top 100 Science Fiction & Fantasy Books:
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SF&F author listing with ratings and summaries (incomplete, mostly pre-Millenium):
>greatsfandf.com/authors-full-list.php

Previously on 'Faux Misogyny and Forced Memes':
>>10101090
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Anything worth getting, apart from Yukikaze and LoGH?
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What are good Sword and Sorcery/Sword and Planet short stories or books
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>>10111591
Fafhrd and the Grey Mouser
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Is it worth reading?
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>>10111628
What's in the rest of that chart?
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>>10111685
Pretty lame actually. The aliens are uninspired and Turtledove has a peculiar gift for making his characters boring.
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>>10111704
Zzzzz.

Oh well, I'll have to get my first contact jollies somewhere else.
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>crossboarding /pol/shits coming out of the woodworks because of the Nobel Prizes
Predictable
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>>10111703
Come on, man. It's on the OP.
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>>10111591
Thune's Vision
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>>10111760
Please leave, tumblr.
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>>10111708
I recommend Blindsight.
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>>10111919
I recommend therapy.
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>>10111919
>vampires in space!
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>>10111985
>vampires in space!
Pulp as fuck.
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>>10111864
(You) are the tumblr.
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>>10109064
been actually looking for good book that involve modern people traveling to alternate worlds etc.
but there doesnt seem to be any really good ones.
theres the daniel black series which is soon getting a new book. but those are really centered around worldbuilding which is nice but you can notice the author isnt very experienced.
then theres the darklord but those books are really really grim and may not be everyones cup of tea, werent mine.
i tired the builders sword but that seemed to be a kinda litrpg thing that wasnt well exectuted.
obviously theres dark tower but that kinda got ruined for me by the movie because eveyone i talk to never read the books but only saw the movie.
currently im looking reading spellsinger and schooled in magic which seem promising.
honestly id welcome more "isekai" books because there arent any good ones and for all the flood of shit that would come id wager thered be a handful of gems that will turn up.
overall i think it be worth the new influx of authors.
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>>10112411
fuck my grammar.
apologies, its like 5 am and i should be going to work.
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>>10111188
>paying for a pdf
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>>10111708
P8c related.
Starfire by Bv Larson
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>>10112411
>Modern (well technically more advanced than current earth) person going to ANOTHER WORLD (not alternate) technologically not advanced
Hard to be a God (Strugatskys): Undercover operative from a advanced version of Earth goes to a world that is technologically behind.

Prisoners of Power is also good but the translation reads so terribly ;_;

>Modern person going into a fantasy world
The Chronicles of Amber by Zelazny
The Fionavar Tapestry → note that I have not and will not read this because I believe that it sounds like the worst isekai ever with medical students and law students - really? GGK's Tigana was really good
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>>10112920
thanks ill look into those.
right now im planning on reading empath rising(https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/34063396-the-heartstone-saga) because the premise sounds cute and after that im trying either spellsinger or schooled in magic. ill make a note of your suggesitions though.
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>>10112954
gotta note though since this seems to be an indie book its hard to get a hold of the pdf.
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>>10112955
Not that anon: honestly every indie book I've tried to read is shit and the summary for that book looks utterly retarded/fanfic tier but if you followed my chart it's on mobilism.
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I finished all of Way of the Shaman
Not bad, some books got repetitive but I was really engrossed, especially by book six

Now there's nothing more to read
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>>10112980
i know im just a sucker for love stories.
i actually prefer less erotica and more, err, vanilla romance but both seem to come hand in hand when it comes to books.
i know the premise seams simple but a few friends that read it told me it caught them completely off guard and seems to be well written so im willing to take a look.

completely forgot about mobilism. i had an account once but fake email addresses got purged some time ago. i usually just go to audiobook bay for audiobooks or use qbittorents built in torrent search for pdfs or other things and just pick whatever has the most seeds.
it is very hard to find indie books on open trackers though. thanks.
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>>10112980
>>10113003
welp not that it matters the pdf from mobilism is infected.
now i remember why i dont visit that place anymore.
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>>10113034
>infected
No. The pdf is not infected the fact is you tried to download an exe or some shit. Use jdownloader.
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>>10113034
It's also not a pdf it's an epub
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>>10113046
you know what i mean god damn it
>>10113037
I LITERALLY USE JD AND CHROME TO CONFIRM
extraction failed cause windows defend threw a hissyfit chrome didnt even want to save the archive.
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>>10113053
tried both links obviously.
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>>10113053
>>10113056
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>>10113058
>>10113053
https://www.sendspace.com/file/t23u3t
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>>10113058
i dunno man. if both crome and windows defender throw hissyfits its a red flag im my head.
however i tired
>>10113062
which works fine with no warnings.
thanks for that.

i assume the infection is not in the pdf but the archive itself.
that being said i dont know why it warns me but doesnt seem to warn you guys. especially since i tried both links in jdownloader and chrome.
obviously i have an ublock on.
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>>10112845

>Book got 3 stars on Amazon

Wew, I can tell this is going to be a rollercoaster ride of disappointment.
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>>10111591
Return to Nevèrÿon
Adventures of Alyx
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>>10113062
>WARNING: This is a work of erotic fantasy, there is nudity, swearing, a bit of violence, and plenty of naughty sex between man (and woman) and monster girl/girls.

the fuck is wrong with u people
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>>10113274
welcome to commercial fiction
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Which one should I pick up to become a true patrician in all things fantasy. I've read most of the essentials prior.
Book of the New Sun or Malazan?
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>>10113331
Lord Dunsany
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>>10113165
>Return to Nevèrÿon
>recommending the Hogg man to someone
Shame on you
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>>10113274
>authors today have to give a trigger warning that spoils the book
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Are the John Dies at the End books any good?
I saw that the third one came up on one of the sites I get my ebooks from, so I looked for the synopses of the first two and they seem pretty interesting. On the other hand they're by a Cracked editor and that has fallen to shit. On the third hand the first two books are somewhat old, maybe from when Cracked wasn't shit.

So, anyone read those, are they any good?
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>>10113058

This looks like fanfiction shit that /mgg/ over at /jp/ would write.
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>>10112845
This is utter shit
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Non-space near future scifi, recently published. Something like Rainbows End but with a better story.
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SALLY FEEDS FAMILY GRAPES
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>>10112434
>what do you mean "series cancelled due to low sales"? I want to pirate Yukikaze 3!
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>>10113331
>a genre defining series by a true master where every word is a pleasure to read
>never ending "epic" fantasy series where even the fans of the series admit that the first book is something you have to force yourself through to get to the good stuff
What do you think?
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This has probably been talked to death by various different communities, but I'm looking for some input.
Should I read Children of Hurin before or after Silmarillion?
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>>10113643
"epic" fantasy where the only "epic" part is that there is an extra 200 useless fucking characters, and we need to read the story from 10 different points of view
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>>10113649
After
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>>10111685
>hitler
no
stay away lest you become another /pol/tard.
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>>10113419
They're dumb as shit but they're fun.
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I've heard God Emperor of Dune is where it's at and have read Dune. Can I get away with skipping Messiah and Children?
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>>10114258
yes
unless you want to see a children becoming a huge immortal worm
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>>10114284
>children becoming a small immortal pickle
ftfy
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>>10114287
all hail the god emperor pickles
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This might be kind of weirdly specific but could anyone recommend me some strange and bizarre science fiction? Something like Childhoods end or Dune? I know my taste is pleb-teir but I like really weird and interesting stuff.
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>>10114382
Star Maker
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>>10114235
Good enough. Thanks.
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>>10114382
HP Lovecraft's sci-fi stories e.g. The Colour Out Of Space, The Shadow Out Of Time. Clark Ashton Smith's martian SF e.g, The Vaults Of Yoh-Vombis. Some of Philip K Dick's stuff is bizzare but more for psychological and philosophical reasons, false memories, alternate realities, mental illnesses, The Electric Ant is a good example.

JG Ballard is weird but somebody like PKD is a better and more gradual introduction to new wave SF.
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>>10114382
I love, venerate and collect strange/bizarre shit. In order of what I enjoyed the most
Phillip K. Dick - especially Three Stigmata, Ubik, Martian Time Slip
Strugatskys (Amazing authors) - Roadside Picnic, the Time Wanderers, The Doomed City, Beetle in an Anthill (terrible translation, amazing story)
Hyperion Cantos - Priest's Tale. Man...
Fforde's Shades of Grey
The ending of Foundation and Earth. There are some really chilling moments in the Foundation series towards the end.
Solaris by Lem
Blindopraxia

Some of Bradbury's Martian Chronicles. That fucking ending...

Anime - The End of Evangelion, Darker than Black (s1 and ova only - the setting is an altered version of Roadside Picnic), Shinsekai Yori has some uncomfortably disconcerting scenes
>>10114585
Nice.
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>>10114585
* by nice, I mean that I am looking to pump this list for books until only dregs remain
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Opinions on the Foundation series?
I read the first one a few years ago and remember enjoying it
Just started the second one
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>>10114689
You ought to look at Robert silverberg. He is if pkd passed college, stayed off drugs and bad marriages. His subjects and ideas have a big overlap while keeping the experimental new wave feel. Recommend dying inside, downward to earth, tom o bedlam.
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Did anyone watch Electric dreams? It's a tv series with standalone episodes bades on Philip K. Dick's short stories.
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>>10114469
>>10114585
>>10114675

These all sound great! Thanks /lit/!
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>>10114730
overhated
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>>10114382
>>10114675
Ubik is an incredible, bizarre, book.
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Do anyone know of a book about fate and how the protagonist struggle against it(he can give up and follow his destiny or can fight till the end eventually overcoming his fate, i dont care)?
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>>10114675
>Darker than Black (s1 and ova only - the setting is an altered version of Roadside Picnic)
Explain? Roadside is one of my favorite novels to date.
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>>10114832
Several "zones" appear throughout the world where strange things happen. At the same time a bunch of people start manifesting strange powers. They're termed "contractors" because every time they use their power they have a compulsion to perform some kind of idiosyncratic action as if it were a sort of payment. It can be anything from eating something, to smoking, to writing a poem, up to, in the case of one unfortunate woman, murdering a child. At the same time other people turn into "dolls', they become borderline catatonic, but can project their consciousness through physical materials. Water, cement, metal, glass etc.

The first season is really slow and pretty lame until about two thirds of the way through though. Some people hate S2 but I like it better than the first.
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>>10114832
Having read RP and having watched DtB I have no idea what he means. If anything, DtB is closer to Eugenio Loboe.
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>>10114893
S2>S1 for sure. His relationship with Shin is what holds the series together.
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>>10114828
wew
this is a hot grill
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>>10114258
No.
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Why did my eyes water and something prod my heart and a wave of shivery tingles run down from my head when I read about aule creating the first dwarves, orome discovering the firstborn and when fingon rescued maedhros with the help of thronodor the eagle with a 180ft wingspan?
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>implying Abe & Isaac reenacted with dwarves is better than this
"At that sound the bent shape of the king sprang suddenly erect. Tall and proud he seemed again; and rising in his stirrups he cried in a loud voice, more clear than any there had ever heard a mortal man achieve before:

"Arise, arise, Riders of Théoden!
Fell deeds awake: fire and slaughter!
spear shall be shaken, shield be splintered,
a sword-day, a red day, ere the sun rises!
Ride now, ride now! Ride to Gondor!"

With that he seized a great horn from Guthláf his banner-bearer, and he blew such a blast upon it that it burst asunder. And straightway all the horns in the host were lifted up in music, and the blowing of the horns of Rohan in that hour was like a storm upon the plain and a thunder in the mountains.

"Ride now, ride now! Ride to Gondor!"

Or my personal favorite, the /r9k/ death charge:

"Then suddenly he beheld his sister Éowyn as she lay, and he knew her. He stood a moment as a man who is pierced in the midst of a cry by an arrow through the heart; and then his face went deathly white, and a cold fury rose in him, so that all speech failed him for a while. A fey mood took him.
‘Éowyn, Éowyn!’ he cried at last. ‘Éowyn, how come you here? What madness or devilry is this? Death, death, death! Death take us all!’
Then without taking counsel or waiting for the approach of the men of the City, he spurred headlong back to the front of the great host, and blew a horn, and cried aloud for the onset. Over the field rang his clear voice calling: ‘Death! Ride, ride to ruin and the world’s ending!’
And with that the host began to move. But the Rohirrim sang no more. Death they cried with one voice loud and terrible, and gathering speed like a great tide their battle swept about their fallen king and passed, roaring away southwards."
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tfw you're reading a scifi expecting the force the protag is fighting for to turn out to be the villains because it's so stupid but it turns out that it's actually just what the author believes in

The people who write libertarian military scifi are weird lol
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>>10114730
Recently finished the first one and while I generally liked the idea and setting, the ending left me dissatisfied. I could forgive the science stuff being a bit unbelievable but the book just kinda stopped.

I suppose my main criticism, even though it may have been intentional, would be that I didn't care for any of the characters. They each felt like pawns to the overall scheme, devoid of personality.
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>>10111613
Just started reading these the other day and while I can appreciate the influence they had on later work, they have not aged very well at all.
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>>10115550
To the winner - the spoils.
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I just got the first book of "the once and future king" and it was going well until the meeting with Merlin
Basically Merlin reads into the future and he has guns, marmalade, potatoes and a lot of futuristic stuff in his home
what the absolute fuck, I was hoping to actually learn about Arthurian legends and this is looking like a horrible (well written) fanfic. Do these novels tell the actual legends and tales or have I've been memed into a stupid invention of the author?
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He has published a fantasy book. If you ask a question about the book, his book, the author will NOT respond, instead some anonymous person will answer that you cannot verify to be the author.
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>>10105567
>posting the good cover
i'm not touching this book. the cover already states it's quality.
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Super specific but anyone got any recs about disgraced protags gradually returning to power/status

Stormlight sorta has it with Kaladin and Vorkosigan kinda does it early on but I can't think of much else.
Think it'd be more interesting to read than the usual scrub to god stuff
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>>10114828
>actual breast moulds on a breastplate
>six pack
>thinking I believe you are female
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>>10116284
So basically what you want is a pauper Prince rising back to power after some hard times?
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>>10116498
Yeah or disgraced soldier/wizard/whatever
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so, friends. friday's good.
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>mfw I have to wait a year for Oathbringer to be release in paperback format because I hate hardcovers and got the first two in paperback.
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Should I read Mistborn?
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>>10115992
you want the actual Le Morte d'Arthur
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>>10116284
Best Served Cold by Abercrombie
The Conqueror's Shadow by Ari Marmell fits the request but I found it to be shit, unfortunately
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>>10116758
its allright. be sure to read the transitions between the books. theyre mostly catchup but have some interesting things in them.
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>>10116758
No.
Sanderson is a complete waste of time.
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>>10115992
Haven't you seen the Sword and the Stone?
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>>10116210
It's okay. Better than the last one.
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Yes? No? Maybe?
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>>10117123
>Better than the last one.
??????
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>>10117310
international is interesting.
however its not as good as otehr works.
it is very entertaining though.
the one with frankenstein being a monster hunter agent is quite good.
but there are so many monster hunter books that quality and consistency vary extremely.
like i said monster hunter international is interesting.
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>>10116764
yeah, I feel like a retard realising it now

>>10116980
so long ago I didn't remember anything, but the biggest distraction was that it had a completely different name in my country, called "Merlin the enchanter"
More fitting, since this shit feels way more like the clown of Merlin is the protagonist
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Swanwick is writing the third novel from the Iron Dragon's Daughter world.
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>>10117310
It's total shit mate
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>>10117310
>faith hunter and jim butcher are writing short stories instead of releasing novels
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What you cunt-os reading?

I'm currently going through a meme piece by Stross. It's about how by 2020 we will have neural integrated minds, and ideas and thought will become patentable materials.
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Just finished Memory, Sorrow and Thorn. William's writing isn't bad but his pacing is awful. It feels like half the series is people crawling around in dark tunnels Interminably.

Williams also withholds all his revelations until the very, very end by which time I was tired of waiting and didn't give much of a fuck. It didn't help that none of these revelations were especially impactful or hard to guess. A lot of it was disappointingly mundane.

I'll give the series some credit for being part of the revisionism that lead to more recent - and more interesting - series, but I don't think I'll ever want to slog through it again.
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Which house should Daenerys marry into once things don't go swimmingly with Hizdhar in Winds? I think it should honestly be Daynes. I'd love for them to become a much more prominent force and they were practically allied with the Targs back in Rhaegar's day so it wouldn't be too out there.
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>>10117819
>Which house should Daenerys marry into once things don't go swimmingly with Hizdhar in Winds?
>in Winds
>implying that Winds will ever get released
kek
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>>10117793
He's gotten much better since but desu I really liked the glacial pacing
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Just finished Memory, Sorrow and Thorn. William's writing isn't bad but his pacing is awful. It feels like half the series is people crawling around in dark tunnels Interminably.

Williams also withholds all his revelations until the very, very end by which time I was tired of waiting and didn't give much of a fuck. It didn't help that none of these revelations were especially impactful or hard to guess. A lot of it was disappointingly mundane.

I'll give the series some credit for being part of the revisionism that lead to more recent - and more interesting - series, but I don't think I'll ever want to slog through it again.

>>10117826

I read the books because of his new series, but I think I need a break before going back to Osten Ard. Will probably check it out eventually.
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>>10114828
pls respond
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...wow
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>>10118065

what is this about?
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>>10118046
like half of fantasy is this senpai

wheel of time for super obvious one
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>>10118202
vampires and AIs outwitting alien bird nests using chinese rooms to talk to a crew of autistics
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>and in the siege of Eithel Sirion Galdor the tall, Lord of Dor-lómin, was slain by an arrow
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>>10118303
>and in the siege of Eithel Sirion Galdor the tall, Lord of Dor-lómin, was slain by an arrow
Man are truly the the shitters of tolkien, they are the youngest son whose elder brothers always have to save.
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>>10117681
Watch it again and then read OaFK
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>>10118321
but barahir saved finrod and held out against morgoth till he died alone without help from any of the eldar after being hunted like an animal and watching his two sons, two nephews and most loyal men die
also
>tfw no cousin like idril to lust over
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>>10118065
yeah, I was astonished at how bad it was as well. truly breathtaking.
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>‘What is a wagie?’
>‘A man who was a man but is treated as a beast. Fed only to keep alive, kept alive only to toil, toiling only for fear of pain or death.'
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>>10117310
I've read it, If you've read at least the first book in the series and liked it, then yes.
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>>10118584
source?
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>>10114746
first two episodes were meh

third episode was better, hopefully that bodes well
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What should I pick up next, Zones of Thought or Lyonesse?
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>>10118632
The Children of Hurin?
The quote was edited.
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Why is the silmarillion considered a difficult read? I'm braindead and probably going to be a low income individual for the rest of my life and I very rarely had to reread anything, it all unfolds like a childrens book, simple sentences, you could give this book to the nigerian agency workers at my work (who don't even know how to turn on a kettle) and they wouldn't have any problems at all with it.
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Thoughts on pic related?
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>>10119088
because they think it's boring, most likely.
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Who's the weakest MC in all of fantasy?
As in mentally a weak piece of bitch
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some frogs found gay
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>>10113419
I only read the first two, back when David Wong wasn't a complete tool, and actually seemed like a decent guy. I really enjoyed them, but they're "stupid fun".
There's a third one?
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>>10117310
You mean the series or that particular collection?
The series is a ton of fun, but it's a pulpy, B-movie fun, so you have to like that. I haven't read the collection, though I'm distressed that Butcher is able to put out short stories but can't give us another fucking Dresden or Reddit Cats book already.
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>>10119194
I want to say "Rincewind", but he does somehow save the world several times, so I guess he's exempt.
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Now that dark souls was dethroned as the hardest game ever made, what are some fantasy books like cuphead?
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>>10119281
Probably something by Jasper Fforde
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>>10119094
It's an interesting take on the Arthurian legend. Having a female protagonist makes it stand out from other less inspired versions of King Arthur and she pulled it off nicely IMO. Don't bother reading the prequels/sequels, not worth it.

As a side note the author was also accused of sexually abusing her kids after she passed away. Apparently she and her husband were molesting their children.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marion_Zimmer_Bradley#Child_sex_abuse_allegations

If you like Mists check out Mary Stewart's Merlin Trilogy.
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>>10118893
>Zones of Thought
A Deepness in the Sky is excellent.
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>>10119194
MC from the magicians
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>>10117310
You are better off reading the main series. Start with Monster Hunter International. https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6007336-monster-hunter-international
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>>10117782
>What you reading
Just about to start The Lions of Al-Rassan. Pretty excited I hope it's as good as Tigana.
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>>10119096
>boring
>BORING
tell me where this kind of vermin live i will myself go and fucking murderape them
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>>10119273
>search rincewind
>realize he was the inspiration for zero louise
W E W
E
W
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>>10119281
name 1(one) game harder than DKS.
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>>10119506
why was thingol such an unforgiving cunt
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>>10119513
>He hasn't read Discworld
What are you even doing with your life?
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>>10119528
i dont like fantasy comedys
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>>10119530
So wasting it being wrong, gotcha.
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>>10119530
it's good
skip the first couple of books, maybe start with guards! guards!
I skipped every novel about wizards and read the rest, possibly the best fantasy series
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>>10119543
>guards! guards!
Guards! Guards! is amazing. You don't even have to read the rest of the series, just read that book. It works even as a stand-alone.
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>>10119382
Actually I decided to go with A Fire Upon The Deep. Looks promising so far.
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Not exactly /lit/ but I have /tv/: saw Blade Runner 2049 today. Never in a million years would I have expected this, but it was good.
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>>10119579
hate* /tv/
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>>10119579
Oh, that's good!
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>>10119586
I think they wanted to set it up as a prelude to future films in the franchise, since there are a couple plot-lines that are never resolved, but other than that all my complaints about the film would be nitpicks.
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>>10119579
Well Ridley Scott did not direct this one so I'll give it a shot. Is it better than Arrival?
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>>10119579
It's really good for a modern Hollywood production, but, at least for me, didn't leave nearly as strong an emotional impact as the first one.
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>>10119705
>didn't leave nearly as strong an emotional impact as the first one.
I mean, how the fuck do you even top the "tears in the rain" scene? That's an impossible bar.
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>>10119625
>Is it better than Arrival?
Yeah. The main character was eminently relatable.
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>>10119723
Eh, I dunno. 2049 doesn't have any set-piece moment. It's more of a slow-burner. The music score and cinematography aside, I think it was in some sense better than the first film, since it expands a lot on it. Maybe too much (the replicant rebellion plot-line is not resolved in the film, which makes it kinda superfluous since they could explain their helping K in other ways; just sequel bait, basically.)
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>>10119517
bloodborne {B-)
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>>10119833
the game where your hits heal you and you dodge nonstop
ok~
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Looking for something in the same vein as Blade runner, suggestions?
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Any good science fiction books with spaceship battles in them pls ?
The Bigger, The Better
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>>10119873
horus heresy
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>>10119881
Really? I never really followed anything 40k, but I remember fags shitposting Horus Heresy to death in /tg/. Like it fucked with the canon in a way they didn't like.
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>>10119873
The Commonwealth Saga
The Dragon Never Sleeps
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>>10119543
why would i read comic shit when
>silmarillion
>wheel of time series
>dragonlance
>first law
>black company
Exists.
pls kys famalam
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>>10119927
Incredible.
You know quality can transcend genre, right?
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>>10119532
>i read one book years ago when I used to be an reddite, now i'm in 4chin tellin people off who actually read
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>>10119932
comedy isnt for me unless it's anime or live-action series.
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>>10119927
First Law is garbage and is actual comic tier.
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>>10119927
You just read those five series once a year every year?
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>>10119945
You opposed to British humor? Try pic related. It's very on the nose.
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>>10119950
no
i just cited the mainstream ones.
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>>10119945
So you'll watch anime but won't read Pratchett?
A shame.
>>10119934
Projection's a terrible thing, anon.
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>>10119973
I forgot what that pic was about. He stole some money right? And tried ro stonewall the interviewer?
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>>10119927
because discworld isn't just comic shit, it'sgot drama, it's got social commentary, it's witty and so on
and it's definitely better than wheel of fucking time, jesus christ
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>>10119993
>IT MAKES CRITICISM ABOUT SOCIETY YOU FUCKIN NECKBEARD
wew
what are you gonna do next, call me fascist?
I dont give a fuck about society i just want scapism.
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>>10119986
Dont hav idea, picked in /tg/.
Is this a netflix series or something?
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>>10119999
We're getting mixed signals here anon.
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>>10119982
But I never used redspace. And anyone who talks about how good hitchhikers guide and discworld is usually, 90% of the time, is redditte.
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>>10120005
It was a news interview... how new are you?
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>>10120018
18yo
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>>10119999
>what are you gonna do next, call me fascist?
no,, just an idiot
go read prince of thorns
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>>10120019
So you were here since 13?
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>>10120021
tried
the writing is shit
also
>14yo commands a band of old criminals
>>10120023
12
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>>10120012
>but I never used redspace
Then why do you fling it around like you're intimately familiar with it? You have an unhealthy obsession with a website you claim not to use.
>And anyone who talks about how good hitchhikers guide and discworld is usually, 90% of the time, is redditte.
Because those of us who read those series back in the late eighties/early nineties use a website that didn't come into existence until this decade? Are you for real? For fuck's sake, anon, get a grip. Discworld (and Hitchhikers, since you brought it up) are hugely popular series that have been in the public conscience for decades. Why the hell would you associate them with Reddit?
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>>10119873
Undying Mercenaries
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>>10120050
Is Larson actually good or is it just a meme?
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>>10120059
Depends on if you like chad MCs. Who dip their dick in any available hole, including extraterrestrial holes.
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>>10120088
>Depends on if you like chad MCs.
Why would I want to read about some pasty nerd? I already am one. Give me a chad MC any day.
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>>10119873
Killing of Worlds.
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>>10111176
Any recommendations for good mythic fantasy?
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>>10120200
Is that percius kneeling to Poseidon?
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>>10120200
silmarillion
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>>10119854
Real answer: Rain World. Are there any novels that evoke the same feeling of animals living in the ruins of a dead civilization?
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>>10120200
The Broken Sword by Poul Anderson
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>>10119579
Is Blade Runner good? I never saw it since my friend told me years ago it was just a hollywoodized Electric Sheep which made me really mad to hear so I never bothered.
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hey sci-fi cucks.
What is the coolest celestial megastructure? like ring world, dyson spheres, planet ships, etc.
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>>10120388
>it was just a hollywoodized Electric Sheep
Your friend's a moron. Its one of the best sci fi films of all time.
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>>10120388
Watch the Final Cut of Blade Runner
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There is any book which features a being like concepts?
Like an ancient beast whose existence is the embodiment of destruction?
Not because she destroy everything but because the reason of this being be is to destroy, to opose the creating force of the universe?
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>>10120341
nothing hurts more than this
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>>10120339
>Are there any novels that evoke the same feeling of animals living in the ruins of a dead civilization?
The jungle book
Animal farm
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>>10120341
>you will never fuck your mother and sister so good that they would do anything to get more dick from you
Why live?
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>>10120401
Lord of light maybe
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>>10120401
No, unfortunately.

The only sort of conceptual beings I've ever encountered is in Doctor Who's EU for example the Memeovores that consumed the meaning/concept of outcomes (which isn't really similar to the sort of thing that you are asking for).

When I was a child, I read the Last Dragon Chronicles a highly complicated and confusing series for children involving two races of thoughtforms (the Fain and the Ix) engaged in transdimensional conceptual warfare over the human race.

Lord of Light tries involves people trying to enhance their concepts but I get the feeling that they are people trying to take on concepts rather than naturally being them.
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>>10120425
wat
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>>10120440
i dont understand tough it would make for very interesting stories.
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>>10118065
so I want more stuff like firefall
recommendations?
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I just got this book on a whim today. what am I in for? I just came off of the Gentlemen Bastards books. I loved those. I'm worried the dialogue will be lackluster in comparison.
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>>10120447
You can try Lord of Light.

>>10120448
Anon. (And yes, Childhood's End is pretty similar to Blindopraxia)
>>10114675
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>>10120447
>tough it would make for very interesting stories.
Oh... it's you. Trying for our intellectual property again I see.
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>>10120450
If you're going to meme, meme right. Don't use the same photo that you used tens of times before.
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>>10120458
there are many anons here that would surely make a amazing story with this theme anon, specially cause it's so underused(read never used), it could even make a lucky anon rich you know...
Just saying...
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Where is my dragon, frogman? Will you really leave us to fester in these stale memes?
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>>10120465
I am serious though. Is the series good or did I waste my money? I had no idea it is a meme.
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>>10120479
>I had no idea it is a meme.
That's it! Time for a wall.
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>Harlan Ellison, contrary to the otherwise astute Theodore Sturgeon, is no more a major “prose stylist” than the editorial writer of the Plumber’s Journal or The New York Times. Instead, he stands unchallenged as the god–awfullest writer ever to become submerged in the vaseline of synonyms and antonyms.
>What Mr. Sturgeon mistakes for “image–making” is merely the slick conundrum of an empty–headed self–lover who, unhappily, believes that the bathroom ritual of personal daily resurrection, when inflated rhetorically, is 14” pegged prose. What emerges is not a “style” but rather a sort of neologistic bawling from the belly. It reminds one of the yips and yaps to be heard in the war councils of imbecilic demonstrators, from Berkley [sic] to Boston.
What the fuck?
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>>10120477
I was busy catfag. Will handover when free. :3
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>>10120479
Just read the fucking thing and make your own determination. You don't need us to hold your bloody hand.
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>>10120488
Literary criticism is retarded, it is known.
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>>10120392
The Brakespeare
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>>10120488
Harlan's bombasm can have that effect on people I suppose.
>>10120492
>eyebrows
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>>10120422
There's living humans in both of those stories though.
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>>10120513
>>10120528
>The diatribe equivalent of starting a bait thread on 4chin is published in a collection BY Ellison
>Ellison says that the foreword and introduction has not been altered
Is he a masochist?
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>>10120479
You spent money on a shit series that is easy to download for free. Save your money for out of print books or ones that can only be be bought in print format.
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>>10120537
Nah, I think he thrives on confrontation. Probably loved the whole thing.
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>>10120450
Should have gotten the anniversary edition.

The series is good, but suffers from ending halfway through. The last book will never be finished, the fat man said he's not even remotely done right now, after 5 years of work. He just keeps starting over and over.
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>>10120401
A web novel called Pact has stuff like that sadly it has major flaws.
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>>10120592
>The last book will never be finished, the fat man said he's not even remotely done right now, after 5 years of work. He just keeps starting over and over.
I hate him. I hate him so much. I wish I could hate him to death.
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When the fuck is the next Reddit Cats book coming out? This is getting ridiculous. Why are all the authors I follow but fucking Larry Correia unable to publish a fucking book in a fucking reasonable amount of time?
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>>10120599
such as?
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Don't browse lit much, just wondering if the Malazan series is worth getting into, my friend is telling me it's very good. I have my doubts though and there's quite a few books.
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>>10120629
It's a web serial, so everything was written on the fly. The writer was dealing with his brother's wedding and other problems so pacing (fights drag on for chapters and happen back to back with little downtime), plot threads, and characters all took a hit since he was rushing to meet his deadlines. I really liked the magic system however. It was a good example of combining 'soft and hard' magic together, but if you aren't paying attention to how it works it's easy for it to appear as if the protagonist and others are just pulling shit out their ass.
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>>10120692
Yes, it's good. I just finished it. Well worth it.
Word of warning: the first book is not indicative of the quality of the rest of the series. It gets much better.
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>>10120715
>Word of warning: the first book is not indicative of the quality of the rest of the series. It gets much better.

No worries, as long as the first book isn't horrible to touch I'm sure I'll make it. I'll go to the book store and pick up the first two books today.
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>>10120624
>tfw Cherryh has been writing at least one book per year since 1976
Follow better authors senpai :3
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>>10120728
>Follow better authors senpai :3
I thought I was! They were all prolific until the second I followed them, then suddenly they couldn't publish a book to save their lives!
...wait, is it my fault?
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>>10120692
Yes but it will require some real commitment and patience/perseverance. It is well worth it tho.
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Anything of note released since june?

Im not keeping track since then
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is fiends of nightmaria ever getting a digital release?
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Reminder Oberyn poisoned Joffrey with the scorpion brooch.
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>>10120401
The magical beings in Daniel Abraham's Long Price Quartet sort of operate like that.
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>>10120692
Not really. They are decent but not great. I got through 4 and had no urge to continue with the series.
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why is there this expectation with fantasy book series that you have to read through a whole shitty first (or second or third) first book to get to the "good stuff"?

if the first book is boring or too slow-paced, then it's the fault of the author, and you as the reader have every right to drop it because the author failed to do their job properly. but a lot of fantasy readers act like you have to pass some kind of endurance test to have the right to enjoy the rest of the series, and if you can't stick it out, then you're a pleb or a pussy with a small attention span.
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>>10121055
Gamers do the same shit. It just tells me not to waste my time.

I honestly prefer self-contained stories more than series, but I can deal with a trilogy since it's a proven format.
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>>10121055
Or you can just skip straight to the good book/.
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>>10121055
Often it's because the author doesn't really master all the facets of storytelling, but has a lot of promise.

The author gets better with each book, and the people who like it recommend it with the caveat that the 1st book is a bit dull.

However, I do agree with you about dropping a series if the first book is bad.
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>>10121055
Get a load of this pleb.
I ain't inviting you to any secret /sffg/ tea parties, that's for sure.
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>>10121055
Because they've been conditioned to it. The idea that a good/great book would take care to ensure the beginning isn't shit is foreign to them.
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>>10121055
>you as the reader have every right to drop it
You can choose to drop it, sure. Nothing to do with rights though.
>if you can't stick it out, then you're a pleb or a pussy with a small attention span.
If the shoe fits.
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>>10120970
The undaat?
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Are there any good books where the protagonist is an extrovert? Doesn't need to be a Chad, in fact I prefer that he wouldn't be.
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Just finished The Unholy Consult and I feel dead inside. What's something I can read that will make me feel whole again?
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>>10120488
>god–awfullest
Why would you use a dash here? A hyphen would be clearer. Same goes in the second paragraph.
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>>10121291
No because sff writers are all autistic self inserts
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>>10121486
Discworld
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>>10120450
Started 15 days ago, almost finished it reading 30mins-1h per day.
Was a surprise desu, i love the how the magic is something between science and mind concentration, Kvothe evolution or the conflict between good and evil.
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>>10121625
Demonshit, just because you read shitty books by shitty authors doesn't mean that every single on of them are corespawned autistic shits
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How does everyone feel about multiple pov? It seems like every modern high fantasy I read has the spastic jumping between multiple characters, even if they all are important to the story.
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>>10122075
irritates me

you always end up with one or maybe two characters that you actually enjoy and it makes the rest of the book a drag because you're just waiting to get back to the POVs you like
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>>10119932
>You know quality can transcend genre, right?
Dangerous words, friend. Outer lit might see
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>>10122075
>>10122083
This. I can't think of many where I am actually interested in all the POVs. Like he said reading the boring POVs becomes very tedious.
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>>10122075
I tested it before and realize it's better to stick to one if I can help it. You get much more depth and direction that way, but it all depends on your style.

Most authors today do the close-third-person POV (aka wannabe first person) so you're always constantly bombarded with the chararacters thoughts, feelings and sensations only to get snatched out of it and back to some other dudes plot, its very jarring.

Multiple POVs work better when the distance to the characters is more pronounced, like in Dune.
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>>10122130
>>10122083
>>10122143

These echo my thoughts too. It was the worst in wheel of time, where I only cared about maybe 2 of the 9 or so PoV characters.

I asked because I'm writing something that's only following the protagonist and it only follows her perspective. Seems like most people prefer one perspective, so idk why every modern book has a million
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>>10122178
Everyone wants to be GRRM
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>>10122075
I prefer multiple POV. I don't find it jarring unless the author is particularly bad at it.

I think it's more popular because your stereotypical fantasy neckbeard likes 10+ book series and don't want to ready only one PPV for all of that time.
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>>10122003
Just finished Peter Brett I see.
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I hate Leesha so god damn much
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>>10120736
>It is well worth it tho.

No, it really isn't.
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>>10122075
Authors use multiple povs as a catch all for readers. One of the 3-5 povs will statistically grasp the heart strings of x amount of readers, another will grasp another percentage, etc.

Also Multiple POVs aka multiple first persons aka semi omnipotent narration, lets you explore multiple places at once, and multiple events at once, without having a invisible man in the sky telling you everything that's happening.
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>>10122256
Was she raped again? Tell me a pushting did to her what he likes to do to men ass fuck her
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>>10122251
Who?
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>>10119927
>>wheel of time series
A trilogy worth of content spread over 12 books. I am not exaggerating, I skimmed the middle 8 books and I missed nothing. In addition to that, this series has the most aggravating characters I have ever seen. If I hadn't hated women before, I hate them now. Every woman except for one or two are violent stubborn psychos, and the story makes sure that they are right to be that, even when they clearly are not. A strong woman, is someone who has zero emotional control, lashes out against everyone, is bigoted and will reject reason. The guy also has a weird sexual fetish about women torturing other women in strange ways.

>first law
Literally written for children, it's extremely simplistic and silly. Not a bad book for 13 year olds, but 4chan requires you to be 18 to post.
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>>10120523
>The Brakespeare
the what now?
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If I had to read another vance novel and I wanted to smile as much as I did during faders waft, what would I read?
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>>10122143
Dune did it perfectly indeed.
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>>10122294
A simple google of the name would have told you "who", also just look at the book you just finished reading .
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>>10122330
>first law
>Literally written for children
>rape torture and gay are written for children
Nice b8. You could say the characters weren't that interesting except one, and that it rambles on sometimes, but this book was too mature to be ya. Here is what you wanted (you).
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>>10122598
Oh shit, the last book of the Demon cycle is out?
Fucking sweet, I've been waiting forever, can't say I like the ending but I am looking forward to reading it
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>>10122693
How would you even know how it ends if you didn't know it was even out?
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>>10111685
historical fiction belongs in the trash
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>>10111188
>paying for ebooks
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>>10114258

Why would you skip it? Messiah and children are pretty awesome in their own right. You could watch the syfy miniseries if you really feel lazy, but it'll only make you want to read the books.

https://archive.org/details/ChildrenOfDune2003Part1
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>>10122847
>paying for books
wew
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>>10122867
Messiah > Dune > God Emperor > Children > Heretics > Chapterhouse
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>>10122891

The great thing about heretics and chapter house is that by virtue of having read the private thoughts of all the archetypal characters, the reader knows the experience of "other memories" and is partially initiated into the mysteries.
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>>10122360
The Cugel books ("The Eyes of the Overworld"; "Cugel's Saga") are the obvious choice for humor. If you've read those, then perhaps "Space Opera" or "Showboat World" although the lulz aren't anywhere near as dense.
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>>10122358
It's from a highly obscure, yet excellent, small-press time travel series.

>The Brakespeare of the title is a ship the size of a small universe, its decks, bridge, and rigging made up of stars, planets, and entire cultures. Its mission is the retrieval of an earlier ship from the outer darkness beyond our own spacetime, and ultimately a quest for the sort of extracosmic biodata which can only be found out there beyond the brane universes described by some of the stranger theories of contemporary physics, biodata which it is hoped will yield an advantage in the War.
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>>10122847
>paying for one kind of book
>not paying for another
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>>10123502
so it's like ttgl?
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>>10112845

That was hilarious as fuck.

It's basically Dracula/Vlad Tepes waking up from hibernation and fighting off the aliens with the aid of a few humans-turned-vampires.
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>>10122891
Why anybody likes emperor is beyond me. Dune is great. Than it is just a slide into shit. I stopped reading a hundred pages in whatever came after God emperor.
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>>10123616
>why nobody likes the book where the child murder the father and become an mary sue version worm
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>>10123658
compared to this questionable piece for the same story, from the 1970s
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>>10123658
why are fantasy series so fucking long
i have so many books to read and each is like 400 pages.
fuck
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>>10123671
And I enjoy this one from another translation. Elric seems like a good character for an artist to draw.
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>>10123684
he looks like a lizard
also wasnt he suposed to be the good goy?
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>>10123672
Most of Moorcock's Elric novels are about 150 pages though, and in an economical style that doesn't dwell on details. He's like the anti-Robert Jordan.
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>>10122827

It's about aliens invading earth during world war 2, that's hardly historical

>>10113982

Harry (((Turteltaub))) is actually a Californian university professor, any /pol/ack will eventually be triggered by his penchant for Jewish characters, communist propaganda, and interracial relationships.

>>10111685

The first series is ok but not great, sometimes annoyingly stupid (as is the case with everything he writes). The next series which takes place in the 60s is utter trash.
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>>10123698
i have to read first law, only 3 books tough, then black company, then wheel of time, and then venture in the moorcock multiverse.
I think i will die before reading all this shit.
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>>10123697
I'm only two books into him so I can't evaluate him yet. So far there's a lot of allegory for Elric's home = British Empire, but it also feels like a decadent Rome or Alexandrian city. He is an interesting character for the iconography, drug use, being at odds with his heritage, and the ambivalence towards the use of a sword that drinks souls - and his race is supposedly only part human. I would have happily read these books in the 1970s because there is an interesting bunch of conflicts to resolve.
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I need a modern fantasy without strong women, pls.
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>>10123876
i need a modern fantasy with a strong woman being captured and raped eventually breaking down.
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>>10123872
wild wastes is kinda modern. there are strong women but they all fall to protags D.
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>>10123876
Iron Dragon's Daughter.
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>>10123876

The Hawk Queen by David Gemmell
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>>10120725
>No worries, as long as the first book isn't horrible to touch I'm sure I'll make it.
Oh, it's not horrible. It's actually quite enjoyable. It's just not nearly on the level of the rest of the series, and reads like a more standard High Fantasy then what it becomes.
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>>10123892
super sale on super heroes kinda
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>>10123658
why the long face?
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>>10121055
Because oftentimes its an author's first published work, or they haven't gotten their voice down yet, and what comes after shows significant growth on their part as an author, and makes reading through the weaker first entry worth it. Some people can tolerate some early installment weirdness if there is a good payoff.
Or you can be an angry autist and hate it because its not perfect, going through your life unable to understand why people like things and don't hate everything as much as you do. That's a perfectly legitimate approach as well.
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>strong woman
>saves the world
>submits in bed
none of this matters, even if you kill all the gods and become the sole god a woman will always be a submissive cunt in the bed, it's their nature.
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>>10121055
People who read fantasy read nothing BUT fantasy. They have nothing better to do so wasting their time reading hogwash is like a daily ritual. Go on /a/, you'll see the same mentality, with people who have completed 500+ series despite maybe 10% of those being worthwhile.
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Re-read them and you'll see they are poorly constructed,




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