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Come for the crit, stay for the circlejerk

Would you like help drawing ponies? This is the thread for you! Please do look at the tutorials below as they are essential to gitting gud

Previous thread: >>29781612
Request thread: >>29857191

>What is this?
This is the Drawfag Improvement thread
Here you can share and discuss art, while also helping and receiving feedback from other aspiring drawfags!

>Copied from draw thread
DRAWING TUTORIALS
>Pony -
http://imgur.com/a/m7zQ2
http://mlpg.co/art/res/23.html
>Human -
https://sites.google.com/site/4chanic/training-tutorials
https://design.tutsplus.com/tutorials/human-anatomy-fundamentals-how-to-draw-hands--cms-21440
>Drawing Books & Videos -
https://mega.co.nz/#F!2RARFaLA!VTiQb6eRXfV4V6mYQ6FJTA
>Inking and Coloring in Photoshop -
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1ntQiBTLz1nc3praE1Pb2VzNzg/edit?usp=sharing
>/ic/ Drawing Guide -
http://www.squidoo.com/how-to-draw-learn
>/ic/ Resources -
https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/

PROGRAMS
>GIMP (open source Photoshop or Sai alternative) -
http://www.gimp.org/
>FireAlpaca (Paint Tool SAI alternative) -
http://firealpaca.com/en
>Krita (Multi platform open source alternative) -
https://krita.org/
>MediBang
https://medibangpaint.com/en/
Windows/ Mac/ iPad/ iPhone/ Android
Draw or make comics on practically any device!!
>ArtRage
https://www.artrage.com/
ArtRage gives you real world painting tools on your computer in a stylish, easy to use environment.

NEW! DISCORD CHATS:
>Drawfag Improvement chat
https://discord.gg/9HCqPaP
>Solami's pony chat:
https://discord.gg/UpYhBrY
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Challenge #7!

Since it's the 7th challenge, how about we do a 7 day art challenge!

=RULES=
-Basically, the deal is you will take the day's theme and draw what comes to your mind when you think of it. So if the theme was "the beach" you might draw ponies surfing, swimming, or playing in the sand.
-By no means do you have to do this daily; in fact, the last thread lasted almost 2 weeks! So if you can do 7 drawings in about 14 days, you can do this!
-You have to do them in order and they have to match the theme (and have to be pony related in some way) but otherwise go nuts!
-Have fun!

=THEMES=
Day 1: Weather
Day 2: Food
Day 3: Hobby
Day 4: Pets
Day 5: Outdoors
Day 6: Villian
Day 7: Friendship

>Special thanks to Cronus
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>>29881595

God fucking damnit redline. I JUST fucking did the pallet thing.

Will also do the new challenge.
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>>29881703
Hahaha sorry! Some people finish the challenges really quick while others take the full 2 weeks or so. I'm not being sarcastic but I REALLY LIKE HER MANE.
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>>29881595
>>29881583
Emcee... just stop. It's not gonna take off.
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>>29881954
What?
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>>29881954
>It's not gonna take off
>>29881703
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Hey, I just made a shitpost to bug my friend about the newest episode. It's not that great but I figured you guys would get a kick out of it. So here you go fags.
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>>29882132
Holy shitpost is right, Batman
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>>29882132
Aside form the tangent with Celestia's horn and the text, the composition is very well thought out. I'm really getting the feel the the emotions portrayed here. The redesign of Celestia's cutie mark and chasis is very good too.

I think if you really stick with this you'll be better than me within the year. Your lines are already cleaner.
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>>29882172
SO FAMOUS
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>>29882172
what's your next art?
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>>29882289
A new portfolio piece. I'll remember you guys when I'm working at GW by the end of this week.
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>>29882322

Holy shit are you secretly Imalou?
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>>29882322
Phew.
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>>29877877
Just woke up to this, thanks! I'll tweak some of those before moving to colour.

Speaking of which, any tips on painting? I roughly get colouring and shading, but I have a soft spot for brush strokes like celestiawept's.
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>>29882826
Then try doing more prominent brush strokes? I don't have much advice if you already know coloring/shading, other than if you have some blendy brushes that add color and also blend it into another color if that makes sense? I'm still running on fumes here
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>>29878421
>>29878905
>>29879580

Thanks anons from the last thread, appreciate the input. After making music for almost a decade I learned how to handle critique, so this shouldnt be a problem
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>>29883086
As long as you have the right attitude and want to get better you'll always be able to ask me (at the very least) for help and I will.
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>>29882332
Who?

>>29882371
:^)

>>29882826
I'm seeing a lot hard round and color dodge on a lower opacity soft round possibly made into a tool preset. Some others but those are the main. I can see at least 2 more brushes used here and I think I can recreate the shape for you in photoshop. For the fur, looks like a premaid texture was put over a base block-in. been used for fur, but most of it is also hard round.

Once you get the hang of drawing you can identify people through them easily. Fuck me if I can remember any names though.
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>tfw still haven't improved
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>>29884438
How about you freehand instead of bezier tooling it to death?
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>>29884486
I literally used my mouse
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>>29884497
Then get a pencil and paper. It's not difficult, you're just making excuses.
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>>29884509
>pencil and paper
Buddy, it's 2017 and I've got a graphic tablet
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>>29884517
Then fucking use it and stop bitching about your mouse.
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>>29884668
I have a tip or two for cleaner erasing but fuck it if I'm going to tell your retarded ass anything.
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>>29882322
>>29885357
:^)
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BAMPU
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>>29885382
Ever massage an entire horse?
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hi, I posted in the last thread asking about rear hooves et al. any more tips about how to improve this smolpone's posture a bit? and does the angle feel too forced?
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>>29884668
either freehand or stop posting your shitty vector traces, we've told you this like 1000 times
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>>29881595
My entry for weather. It's a really really bad blizzard.
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>>29886720
I love it
Gotta work on those contours and contrast though
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>>29886740
Think I fixed it. Thanks for the advice, Anon.
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>>29886773
Great job. No problem, glad I could be of assistance
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>>29884399
>Who?
Imalou is a pretty good drawfag that occasionally posts on /mlp/. She's divisive on /mlp/ since some people think she only comes here to show off.
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Everything became so good when I made myself shedule and started a project. Why haven't I done this earlier!
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>>29886987
Teach me how
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>>29886987
I don't know... Make yourself some goals and try to reach them.
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>>29887067
>>29887129
Shit I replied to mysefl.
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>>29881595
holy fuck
this challege is tough

I'd say I'd give it a shot but that would not be the right mindset
I will fail horribly
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>>29881595
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Who would like a challenge?

Ponify this picture with (top to bottom) Discord, Twilight Sparkle, and Starlight Glimmer.
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>>29887873
sounds like you're looking for the draw thread
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Bump before bed

>>29887826
Turned out nicely, I like it.
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>>29886720
Rat you never cease to amaze me
>>29887617
What? How is it tough? You can draw whatever you want provided it fits the theme. "weather" could be a pony in a raincoat, umbrella, and rain boots, for example. Also you have 2 weeks to do it
>>29887826
Is it RD bouncing rain over Twilight? Because I love that shit
>>29887873
Yeah dude, here's the Drawthread where you can request shit like that >>29857191
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>>29888882
derpy attempting an assassination on a princess
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>>29888887
HA, good.
>>29888882
Woops forgot my name
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>>29887978
>>29888882
Thank you for telling me to fuck off as kindly as possible.
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>>29889023
I mean I'm not trying to tell you to fuck off, but this isn't the thread you're looking for
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>>29886883

In case the sarcasm was lost I was being facetious when I asked "Are you imalou?"
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>>29886702
Aside from double-checking her eyelashes and cutie mark, I did draw that one freehand. But if you're going to be a dick about it, I'll post another vector one, just to piss you off.
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>>29889520
freehand includes not using the circular guides you're using for the skeleton
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>>29889548
>look at the Imgur album and learn anatomy, scrub
>what are you doing drawing like the album says to?

Fuck off.
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>>29889730
Do you draw those circles yourself, or naw?

also, she preggo af
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>>29889752
Yeah, I've had more luck getting them rounder by drawing them a quarter at a time; it's let me be more consistent since I've started having trouble with my back and haven't been able to keep my shoulder movements as smooth as I used to.

And yeah, I figured a preggers pony made sense for a holiday based on a pagan fertility festival.
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>>29889798
If I enhance the fuck out of the image, you can see some of the guidelines I drew to line up the circles; I tend to draw them inside boxes, so they don't end up too lopsided.
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>>29889861
Basically we just want you to not use like, circle tools, line tools, etc. If there's a circle, YOU should draw it. If there's a long line, YOU should draw it; not a bezier tool or a line tool etc. Also when you post, if you'd ask for on something then you would be totally welcome here. I know I went off on you the other day, but I'm just exhausted, so sorry if that came off more bitchy than normal.
>>29889861
Okay, but you didn't hand draw those circles, did you? If you did, could you show us how you can draw THOSE circles so well while saying that THIS is how you draw circles?: >>29889798
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>>29890075
Basically, the discrepancy is because I don't have a drawing tablet, so >>29889798 was drawn with a mouse in MS Paint. The closest thing to a "tool" I use, other than paper/pencil/eraser. is making little marks on the side of my eraser to keep all the hooves the right size.

I drew the circles freehand, and they're actually somewhat off as a result; the butt circle is too tall, and the chest circle has an odd forward slant to it, for instance.
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>>29890111
Well if you're telling the truth that you don't use a template, tool, compass, nor trace and that you draw all of these shapes free hand, then I commend you on it. I'm still suspicious, but if you can prove it, we'd love it. Use your pencil and paper, not a mouse, btw. Your faces are almost always really well done btw and I'd give you advice on how to draw a pregnant mare I would, but I hav eno idea
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>>29881595
EDIT: I might have forgotten to tell you, but you can start and finish this tutorial any day you like. You can even do them all in one day if you want. If you used EVERY theme in one picture, that'd be amazing, haha.
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>>29881595
>>29885382
>>29887617
>>29884438
I'd hit it
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>>29890127
I'm not sure how I could prove it short of scanning after each stroke, which would be insanely time-consuming.
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>>29890127
I don't trace, but for the ones where I post the drawing with a link, I did use a reference, but I do those by eye.
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>>29890175
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>>29890166
>>29890175
I mean, it's okay, I was mostly triying to explain what the other guy was saying in a much nicer tone. If you had a tablet it'd be really easy to take a video, so I guess I'll just trust you. Also using a reference is fine, but we're really, really like to see you draw your OWN pose that isn't copying someone else's pose. Do you think you could do that? I mean this thread IS about getting better and yeah, sure you have improved, but if you can't draw a pony on your own, then you can't go farther, and by now I know you can do it, just trust me and try it.
>>29890216
Oh I mean tracing circles, not tracing the drawing, but I can see how you'd be confused.
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>>29890175
>>29890216
Okay I'm going to show you how I do an original post myself while also doing the Day 1 challenge (weather); give me ten minutes or so and I'll show you what I'm talking about
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>>29890229
I drew >>29884668 without a pose reference.
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>>29890306
Well why didn't you say that! Someone said you were tracing . Okay well I'm very glad you did that, but as you can see, you need help with anatomy when you draw without reference. The face is okay but the limbs are really off. Do you mind if I redline it?
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>>29890335
I said I'd do that during the weekend; I didn't feel like repeating myself.
Go ahead. I think the front legs look a bit too much like they're from a front view, and the hind legs are too drastically curved below the hocks, but I'm not quite sure how to fix it.
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>>29890335
>>29890404
While you're at it, I could use a new redline of >>29780862, keeping in mind that she's supposed to be hanging onto a ledge (>>29794787) and not just dancing on one hoof.
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>>29890404
Well, I know I've said it a ton of times here but I'm exhausted and I don't remember very well when I'm fatigued, so sorry.
I was already redlining it anyway, hah.
And you are certainly right about the problems you have andI have a couple too so I'm still working on that. It's just a tough pose to deal with because of the perspective you chose.
>>29890426
Can I redline that tomorrow or do you need it immediately?
>she's supposed to be hanging onto a ledge and not just dancing on one hoof.
Hahaha yeah I will.
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>>29890441
Yeah, you can go ahead and do that one tomorrow; I won't be drawing again until tomorrow evening.
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>>29890539
Alright sounds good. Here's what I had to do with your reference-less drawing. I know I redrew a lot of it, but that's because you're still learning. I wrote all the problems too and I used a reference to redline you so you knew how I did it along with the circles and joints and shit. I hope this helps
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>>29890570
Oops, it should say "bigger rounder eyes" but Twilight's standing on it
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"Weather" challenge bump! I didn't realize the shading was really not right until after I drew the bg and that was a stupid choice buttfuck it I'm not going back
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>tfw there are tons of artists that are much better and 5+ years younger than you
>tfw you'll never catch up to their level
>tfw there's so much competition in this field that you'll never be able to turn drawing into your day job
>tfw you'll never have enough self discipline to draw 6+ hours a day
why live
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>>29891857
You can always trendhop on the next big thing and make a quick buck there, if this is what you're after. Knowing that by the time I'll learn to draw properly this fandom will probably mostly die out gives me some sort of nihilistic solase.
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>>29891857
>that doesn't even matter
>you can always catch up
>that is why I consider drawing as a source of additional money rather then future job.
>I can agree with this but you don't really need that much time a day to git gud.
I live because I don't even think about this and focus on my own gains. I treat other artists as source of knowladge, not comparision.
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>>29891906
Fandom will never die if we don't quit and keep making stuff.
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>>29891857

>age is just a number so who gives a fuck
>stop worrying about the level of other artists and focus on your weaknesses while honing your strengths
>focus on what you have to offer as a content creator
>if you work hard enough and show that you're willing to work hard then people will come to you with jobs
>put in the hours you can and make the most of your drawing time - you'll be doing this for years anyway so dont stress over it
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>tfw even for a stoopid challange you came out with a pose you cannot draw.
Why brain... WHY!?
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>>29893432
You know what the proportions are. You can draw it. Keep trying. Poses like that are the most rewarding.
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>>29893519
Yeah... I think so. I am not a type who gives up. I have all night to make it!
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>>29893755
I started drawing scrunching muzzles when I'm out of ideas. At some point the collective disapproval I get from them pushes me to actually draw something.
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>>29893983
>>29893755
I can see you're using -some- form of a sketch, but whatever you're doing is wrong. The front and hind legs should not look like they're superglued to each other, the torso is far too long, tail is too far down the butt, and other stuff I'm too tired to explain. Basically it looks like you're trying to do a "Style" but I can tell you don't know the actual show anatomy yet, so try to do that first. Once you know the rules you can break them
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>>29894379
thank you for the IC

I thought I finally made something not total garbage
Not good but it made me smile

I guess I am a little confused because it seems to me that everyone draws poners differently
also I'm shit

one day I will make an acceptable drawing
until then your advice is noted and I will work on it

thank you
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>>29894449
>it seems to me that everyone draws poners differently
I'm going to say the cliched "if everyone else was jumping off a cliff would you?" thing. Because they might already know proper pony anatomy. Like me. I can draw show style and I can draw my own style and it's important that you know how to draw the show style ponies before you make your own style. Unfortunately you are not close enough to show style anatomy to make your own style. Use the gallery of tutorials and look at show references. Once you get the anatomy down you'll be able to break it like the people you are talking about. If you don't they will always look wrong.
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>>29894449
Realizing you're shit is the first and most fundamental part on the long road to gitting gud.
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>>29894565
I dont know why but it seems like it doesn't matter what I do it turns out wrong.
I just can' wrap my head around it.
Maybe I studied horse anatomy too much or something.
All I can do is keep working on it until I get it right.
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>>29894650
Okay stop studying horse anatomy. Study pony anatomy and use the tutorial gallery. That's how I learned to do it and look at me; now I can yell at others for doing it wrong! Here, I made this tutorial so you could see how horse anatomy turns into pony anatomy. I hope it helps you.
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>>29894449
>>29894650
You have to learn the rules before breaking them. There's no way around it. Real horse anatomy won't necessarily help you, but learning about of the cartoon ponies you want to draw will help without a doubt. You have the right idea though, keep working on it.
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>>29894671
thank you!

>>29894672
thank you!

I will go on until I get it right!
please bear with me
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>>29894671
>Okay stop studying horse anatomy.
Ugh. Why would you say this without proper clarification? Don't stop studying horse anatomy. It'll help you understand what you're drawing circles and cylinders to represent. If you don't want to draw the long muzzle then shorten it down like the show does. It doesn't make it nightmare fuel to have a longer muzzle, it's merely less cute.

What you actually need to do is practice some human anatomy too, because G4 ponies mix in a lot of human facial features. A lot of people also like to draw their bodies in a more human-looking way when they sit or do human-like poses, although that's fully optional.

The idealizations are what make poners cute, but if you don't understand the fundamentals then you're learning to draw by route and that's no good.
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>>29894835
This is like the perfect example of my confusion.

>The idealizations are what make poners cute, but if you don't understand the fundamentals then you're learning to draw by route and that's no good.
I will work on this, thank you!
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>>29894746
Hey man, as long as you have the attitude and want to get better you're always welcome here
>>29894835
Really I just said that and forgot to erase it after I wrote it, sorry
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>>29886720
>>29886773
This it's not yours, you didn't make this.
Don't claim things that are yours when they are not
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>>29895577
shid. also checked
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>>29895926
Great job! :)
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>>29895931
Thanks. If I have time tomorrow, I think I'll try to put the fixes into practice without relying too much on the redline as a reference.
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Day 1 - Weather.

I'm a day late on my promise, but I said I'd do it, damnit.

Ponies facing up are weird.
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>>29896413
Oh, no, it's fine you can start them any day you like. Honestly the only rule is to do them in that order, so don't worry about it.
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The "I only sleep 2 hours a night" bump
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bump
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>>29897272
Did you ever draw that wing guide?
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>>29899005
No, but I've been studying a lot of wings so I can. I'm just not up to it yet
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>>29899022
where my trip at
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how do i git gud
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>>29899119
stop selling yourself short you nigger you know damn well you're already up there
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>>29899119
Hi Nearb. Keep studying boring stuff I guess? Getting gud,(i'd argue you're certainly well on that path already) is just grinding out images while reffing images. And figuring out more fundamental things like how a creatures skeleton is set up and applying it in a more "stylized" way.

Like >>29894835 and >>29894671 suggest. Just meet those two suggestions in the middle more.
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My attempt on the challange.
#1 - Weather
So original idea with the rain. What's the first thing in mind when you hear "weather". A fucking rain!
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>>29899221
I fixed cleavage on the dress. I realized it was bad.
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>>29899221
Totally! Now I wish I had done snow/winter wrap-up but oh well. This came out really cute although I'd think she'd be more shocked to find her dress blowing up all Marylin Monroe style? Haha
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>>29899694
I wanted to make her more shocked like but it was 6 am and I struggled with the pose whole night so I went an easy way. Smile.
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>>29899733
Give me like 3 minutes and I'll help you
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>>29899733
Also please resize these before you post. That's a ridiculous size to work with for me D:
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>>29899735
I should take some small emotion chart and fill it. I haven't done that when it was a challange.
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>>29899773
I wanted to. But I couldn't delete post when I realized I've choosen wrong one. I always make a second smaller resolution to post here.
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>>29899221
Okay so I did a few other things I saw that were just a bit wrong. I didn't fix a whole lot other than the eyes and mouth for a "shocked/surprised" look
>>29899785
It's fine! Don't worry about it.
>>29899777
YES! I'm halfway through medium, myself
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>>29899858
Thanks! Have I told you I luv you? Oh yeah I think I did.
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>>29899918
I don't think you have, but hey I love you too, anon!
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>>29886425
any tips on this? <: sorry to be a bother, still just trying to work out what i need to be improving!
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>>29881595
I did food
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>>29900496
mostly that your foreshortening (especially on the arm/s legs) are off and the tail is far too high in the air. The horn is angled up too much, but aside from that, her face is really really cute and i would love to see this finished!
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>>29900496
Oh I can redline this for you if you'd like, but it won't be til later
>>29900696
hahah Grabby, great job
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>>29901444
>>29901463
thanks! that would be helpful
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>>29901476
Okay I'm going to do it now, give me a few minutes
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Day 2 - Food
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>>29901476
Sorry, I got distracted but I'm almost done, sorry
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>>29903142
Okay here you go. I got carried away drawing some tips for you- like how to spiral a horn and how arms/legs work etc so I hope you can understand what I'm sayin'
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>>29896144
I had to check back to >>29895918 a few times. I'll try again tomorrow.
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>>29903298
It looks a little better but the hoofs are still too club-like, and if she's not alicorn Twi, then she should be shorter. If she IS alicorn Twi then you're fine. I'd also move that eye closer to the muzzle but it'll be hard to do on paper
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I feel like I did pretty bad on this. I don't think I'm going to redraw it but I would like to see what I did wrong so I don't repeat that.
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>>29903663
Stop doing the clubbed hooves; it makes them look like they broke their wrists/anklee and swelled up . It's not just you; there's quite a few people around here whom should know better anyway
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>>29904067
Clubbed hooves?
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For people looking for a wngs tutorial, I drew this a year ago or so and it might be of help to you guys.
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bub-ump
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>>29904883
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>>29904067
don't use whom in a sentence if you don't know how to use whom in a sentence
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>>29903226
thanks, I'll work on that. definitely agree about the ears, mane and hooves. I usually do spiral the horn when I can but I think I was lazy and forgot to do it this time.

in any case, i'll work on it and post some more in here
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Bah. I can't into consistency.
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>>29905511
Cute.
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>>29905467
Good! I'd love to see it finished
>>29905377
Okay, I guess? I'm sick and on cough syrup right now so if I typo or use the wrong word I don't give a shit
>>29905511
I always enjoy seeing your pones. As for consistency goes, you just have to draw and draw and draw and when you think you're done, draw some more
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>>29903417
>>29904067
It might be helpful for you to explain what you mean by "clubbed hooves".
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I've been messing with the legs quite a bit and I think I'm getting somewhere, though I still feel like something is going a little wrong here, particularly with the forelegs. I'd appreciate if someone could help me out.

>inb4 uninteresting pose/10
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>>29906791
Clubbed hooves are basically hooves that are skinned incorrectly. They flare out too much and it doesn't follow the joints of the leg. Studying the joints will help.
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>>29906910
HER right arm is tapered too much and her head's too big
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>>29906919
Thanks. I noticed the head being too big as well but only after I had already inked it. Oh well.

How's this? And is the other arm alright?
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>>29906983
If you were crazy enough you could just make the body larger.
On the arm, I don't see the difference. It should be thicker at the top, like the other arm
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>>29907011
I would actually but I'm pretty sure if I erased too much more the paper will simply give in.

Thanks for the advice, though.
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Hey guys. I haven't been here for some while o/
I drew this yesterday! I'm pretty happy about how it turned out.. but that also means I got attached to it, so I can't judge it properly.
I'm asking for /ic/ and possible redlines if needed.
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>>29908111
The perspective seems off
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>>29908290
It looks like they're standing on a roof
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>>29908331
I never studied perspective rly. good thing you pointed that out. Thats a good thing for me to learn at this point
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>>29906912
Too much tapering, then?
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>>29909160
No, too much flaring at the end.
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day 2
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Is there a way to tell the "limits" of a joint (how far it can bend in certain directions?)
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I'm not too great at drawing, but I color like a nut

pic related, I drew it earlier today
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>>29909776
COLORED, I meant colored, not drew
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>>29903135

Day 3 - Hobby

On the subject of AJ, I had a hard time deciding what counted as a hobby for her. Everything she does is done way too intensely to be called a hobby, but buckball fit the bill well enough.
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Have you guys gotten gud today?
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>>29910299
No.

I wanted to, but time got away from me again. Didn't get much done at all today, really. And tomorrow won't be much better.

I'm starting to think that I'm not cut out to be an artist.
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>>29910663
You could have chosen to draw instead of type this.
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>>29910299
A little bit. I probably did too much contour line practice but also some portraits and joint practice. Was really getting into it. For some reason traditional is more fun for me right now.
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>>29910676
I'm already in bed. It's midnight. I'm giving up for tonight.

At least there's always tomorrow. Right?
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#2 - Food
At least my handwriting is not bad. I think...
I know front hooves are a little too small compared to rear legs.
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how's my anatomy/proportions
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>>29882322
rat, i think your horse has autism.
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Tracy thread made me draw for no reason after two months of "it's not worth it"

How am I doing?
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>>29912556
Honestly it's kind of hard to tell because the anatomy is covered in mech stuff but the mech stuff is not properly perspective-d and your lines are super hairy. I'm sure this is a sketch but you should at least clean that up a bit. His (?) right leg should be farther from the viewer and foreshortened and the left arm also needs foreshortening
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>>29912609
Alright, let's see if I can figure it out myself and with google.
Never really understood the foreshortening. Like, the concept is simple, 3D objects and stuff, but when it comes to actually draw something I guess it kinda falls back behind other problems.
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>>29912669
Whait, that's not it.
I think I'm actually just scared of foreshortening, as stupid as it sounds
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>>29912747
Okay I did this a while back but it's basically how you figure out foreshortening. Try this and I think it'll help you. Spiral gestures work really well for foreshortening and I use them myself
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>>29912754
Oh, I know all that, I'm well aware of limbs being cylinders, I'm just having a hard time finding the right angle and position for them.
It never looks right.

I overdid it here, didn't I?
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>>29912815
And now I'm scared of do anything else with it before some king of confirmation from here

I'm just scared of drawing in general

What the fuck

I can do what I want, no one's going to come and stop me
What is wrong with me
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>>29912815
Okay so I can't really, uh, TELL you in words so I tried to draw it but for me, it's more of something I can eyeball if it's just a pose? google "how to perspective" and click on youtube or something. sorry
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>>29912849
They're just lines. Don't treasure them.
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>>29912852
Oh, nevermind, looks like I actually didn't do it ENOUGH there

Yep, was scared to overdo it. Not going to anymore.
Thanks, that actually helped.
Gonna take a break and eat something and then I'm gonna go full ham on it
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>>29909775
Learn more about perspective - you indicated where joints are, but each joint is on a different level above the ground. Same thing about highlights in her eyes. I doubt that you used any vanishing points.
Your lines could use some variety - play around with width. Since you're copying style from the show, you could also copy their line quality.
Your drawing is messy and dirty; it looks ugly, like you didn't care. If you're smearing your drawing with your hand, then keep a clean sheet of paper between your hand and your drawing.
Buy more pencils. Visible construction looks ugly, especially on the head. If you used 2H instead of HB pencil it would be easier to erase it. And pupils in your eyes look ugly - you're pressing your pencil really hard. It would look better if you used 2B or 4B graphite pencil and pressed not so hard. Or even 8B. They're really cheap if you're not buying a whole set of pencils in a metal case.
You shaded her iris and inside of her mouth, but ignored the rest - it looks lazy. If you don't know how to shade in a way that shows depth, then at least put in some flat values. Twilight doesn't have white mane, white coat, white tail and with cutiemark. If you don't know what values you should use, then look at pic related. I put a black&white filter on a picture from google.
Those * on her cutiemark look shitty. Draw tiny stars instead of those lines.

>>29910139
The way you put in shadows looks really messy. If you're going for a cell shading look, then you'll have easier time using (in photoshop) a single hue/saturation layer (as a clipping mask) that would decrease brightness and shift hue. Then you could normal mask on that layer and black, hard brush to clearly define where's shadow and where's light.
And her face looks kinda squarish; not very cute.

>>29912238
I think her legs are a bit too thin and her eyes could be bigger.
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>>29912556
D A B
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>>29912924
>Then you could *USE a normal mask on that layer *and then use a black, hard brush
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>>29912929
Can't fucking unsee now.
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>>29912852
The filename is clearly describing my expierience with drawing. Not the guy btw.
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>>29913038
You dab every time you dash in MMZ
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>>29913117
the image is standing still, not dashing
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Day 4 - Pets

>>29912924

I was kinda going for messy, but I have a feeling you don't mean the kind I was going for. Personally I want to try a little more than simple cell shading, but beyond that, I'm pretty poor on deciding on where to put light and shadow.

As for the square face? I guess I got a little lazy there on that one.
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>>29912929
OH that arm was BENT IN? Shit I'm sorry I thought it was going out all the way. Well I fucked that up sorry
>>29913041
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Can anyone solve my little problem? I can't aimlessly draw. I mean, I need an idea. I can't just sit there, draw a circle and make something out of it. I need a vision... That's why I always go big and can't do small. I tried with the challange, I did 2 pictures but now I encountered a wall. I can't come up with anything in my mind. Do you have any ideas on how to make fun out of drawing small stuff?
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>>29914382
Look at old master paintings. They were never aimless. Most of all of them had a story behind them. Thinking of story, even small ones can help immensely. If you have some trouble with it, I suggest doing some world building and writefagging on the side so you have a pool of shit to draw.
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>>29913704
Cute. Spike is hard to draw, though. How do his arms work? He's only two heads tall, right?
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>>29914425

Spike is actually pretty hard to draw. His torso is a head tall, but his legs extend a little beyond that. I got a feel for how he looks by having a Spike Mini marathon while I was drawing that. I regret not twisting his shoulder a bit, but the image still works.

>>29914422

That's a fucking beautiful idea. I never even thought about it like that.
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>>29914422
Music seem to inspire me, but it often gives big ideas. And the thing that bothers me is I come up with things I cannot make. I really like some games, I have plenty of ideas with them, some are even poni crossovers. Maybe I should put aside the fear and just start making them... They won't be good anyway as I am a newfag at this but waiting with them till I git gud is bad either. I need to make stuff to learn doing stuff.
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>>29914769
I don't get how he's drawn in show. It looks like his arm is on wrong.
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>>29914921

It's the show's way of saying that if it works for the context (and more importantly, in motion) then it works. There are plenty of times when the ponies are scratching their chins when they reaaaaaaaaaaally shouldn't be. It means you have to be a little liberal with how you handle his arms (which are the most inconsistent part of him).

So I guess my advice would be to understand arms better since you then have to synthesize what would look "right." I would've said just look at noodle arms more so you can see what looks right, but that would build really bad habits if you start there.

Wow I just realized how shit at advice I am...
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>>29914975
I just draw arms jointed properly and not backwards but it looks weird. Guess I'll do more studies of it.
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>>29915062
It is mine hoof!
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>>29915341
I love that. I know I have a ton more, but I only went through like 50 drawngs so
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When drawing comics on paper and inking them digitally, is it better to draw each panel on the same sheet of paper or individually on separate pieces of paper?
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>>29916270
I guess that's up to you, but I put them all on the same page so I know the composition will look good.
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>>29916322
I feel like that's the best way to go about it, but I also feel like I run out of space even when I make a thumbnail sketch to plan it out.
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>>29916402
use bigger paper
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>>29916418
I don't think I have any. Can you recommend what I should be looking for?
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>>29916430
I don't know what you're working with but just get a bigger sketch pad if you can't handle thumbnails
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>>29916443
I've just been using normal pieces of paper, but I guess I should be using a sketchpad. Thanks.
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>>29916459
Buy newsprint. you can get a fuck huge roll for under 5$ Way cheaper than a sketchpad too, only downside is that you have to cit it yourself and bind it to something if you want to take it out to draw.
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>>29916705
Cut*
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>write a lengthy critique and explanation how to avoid those mistakes next time
>next day artist posts a new picture with the same mistakes as earlier
^:(
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>>29917341
>muh style
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>>29881583
Thank you
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>>29917341
Welcome to my world 8)
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>>29917341
Might take them more than a day?
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>>29917341
Did someone say my name?
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>>29917341

Well instead of being passive as hell, you should call them out and try and start a discussion on it. You're helping nobody just posting like that.
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So I went trought Fluttershy madness and her golden shadow hues but how the fuck do I shade Flutterbat... Just make her less saturated?
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>>29918253
I posted that with intention to vent a bit, rather than to help that artist, but you're right. I should've call them out.

I was talking about Afh.

Now that I look at how he handled criticism earlier, he seems to be a lost cause.
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>>29917341
I didn't have time yesterday to check this thread.

>>29912924
Most of your complaints boil down to buying new art supplies, which is going to have to wait until I can go to the store.

I'm not sure what you mean about the line thickness. I'm already using lines of different thicknesses; the main outlines are noticeably thicker than the internal ones (e.g., between her mane/tail highlights), for example. I'm also not sure what you mean about the joints either; I connected the corresponding joints in Paint, and they all seem to form parallel parallelograms.

The undersketch and construction lines are left in intentionally for this thread, so that my process can be seen more easily.
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>>29917341
>>29917515
>Making the same mistakes twice.
Mistakes are good. But there's too many mistakes to learn from to be making the same mistakes more than once.
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>>29919444
>Most of your complaints boil down to buying new art supplies
Sure, because fixing perspective, shading, line quality, cutie mark and making sure that drawing is clean is about art supplies...

>I'm not sure what you mean about the line thickness.
>what you mean about the joints
Pic related.

>The undersketch and construction lines are left in intentionally for this thread
It sounds like an excuse from shading.
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>>29920047
>Sure, because fixing perspective, shading, line quality, cutie mark and making sure that drawing is clean is about art supplies...
The drawing being "clean" is about needing a new eraser, so yes it is. I only have a 0.5 mm mechanical pencil so my options for line thickness are limited as well. Consistently shading a large area is also something I'd need a different pencil and a working eraser to even attempt. I'll try to make the joints more consistent.

>Pic related.
Considering that my lines are all half as thick, the difference being half as much makes perfect sense.

>It sounds like an excuse from shading.
I don't care what you think it sounds like.
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>>29920328
you're one arrogant son of a bitch huh
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>>29920328

>I only have a 0.5 mm mechanical pencil so my options for line thickness are limited as well

Going over lines multiple times can add thickness. Or you can even go out and buy a pack of ticonderoga pencils. Blaming your tools is poor form.

>Consistently shading a large area is also something I'd need a different pencil and a working eraser to even attempt

What is Hatching/cross hatching

Beyond that, I suggest you go watch the show and pause it every 1 or so minutes and sketch out the pony you see in about 45-90 seconds. It'll give you a feel on how pony should look while making your drawings a lot less stiff.

Thats all I can say now. The rest is on you.
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Reminder that we're all gonna make it someday.
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>>29920526
In case you needed proof
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>>29920328
From the OP:
>Would you like help drawing ponies? This is the thread for you!
>This is the Drawfag Improvement thread
Here you can share and discuss art, while also helping and receiving feedback from other aspiring drawfags!
If you refuse to take advice from anyone, and practically everyone, then this thread isn't for you. Go shitpost in the Drawthread if you're not going to act properly in here. >>29857191 Here's the door
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Next you're gonna say "bump"!
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A bump.
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I finally did it!

The dop!
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How do I start making full pictures?
I'm bored of drawing ponies in a blank void
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>>29928034
Same question. I have the ideas but I don't know what style I should learn. Especially outdoors. Making a all with a window or a bed with blanked is not hard but trees, grass, especially the texture on trees. How to not make them boring.
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>>29928329
(u) maybe
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>>29924164
I took great pains to make sure the joints lined up. I drew the individual tiny stars as well as I could manage at that tiny scale. I made the inner outlines as thin as I could. I even bought a new set of erasers to minimize the amount of smudging. If you're not even going to acknowledge that I did anything, then you can go fuck yourself.
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>>29928034
>>29928329
>>29929184
Draw thumbnails to get the ideas you have on paper. Just as a way to have a way to lay out your idea.
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>work hard
>feel confident
>post
>half an hour passes
>pic related
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>>29929892
At least it wasn't bad enough to to give you downvotes.
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>>29929892
Do not use upboats as a guide for your improvement.
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>>29929982
Why not?
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>>29929892
You could at least show us what you've done.
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>>29929892
someone tagged one of my drawings as QUALITY
fucking killed me even if it had only 2 downboat
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>>29930282
Link so we can critique and help you get better instead of bitching.
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>>29930282
Read the filename.
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>>29929617
Not that anon, but you're still not understanding that anon's critique. Your erasers have absolutely nothing to do with the smudging, the joints are still fucked, you name it. You still don't understand that it's not about the tools but your skill, you still seem to not understand basic techniques like hatching, you still fail at the utmost basic fundamentals. Hell, you probably still only draw a pony or two per day.

Go learn and practice the fundamentals for once.
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Bumpan.
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>>29930045
Are you stupid? People like things for arbitrary reasons. Basing your art quality on upvotes is retarded.
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>>29929892


You should post so we can help you improve to get those sweet upvotes. Also if you just want upboats, you should just draw porn. There's honestly no shame in it and you'll get all the gratification you need even if it is shitty.

If there was a problem with porn, its that your ego may swell to massive levels on even a little bit a praise, causing you to hard stagnate.
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>>29931416
Oh i remember hitting my first and only 3 day topscoring with Twilights ass. Felt soooo gooood.
People on derpibooru seem to easly fall for porn. If you want attention you should definetely draw some plots. As told above there is no shame in it and you can still learn a lot. Seductuve sexy poses are not easy to draw.
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>>29930045
>>29931527
Meant you with second part.
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bumperino
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Okay, I added some shading to darken the far legs, and I added a more complete skeleton to anchor the bones.
https://cutepencilcase.tumblr.com/post/156775922635
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>>29932303
don't do exactly as pictured bc i have no idea what i'm doing-- but make ur goddamn hooves parallel
just to reiterate this is a bad example and i just tried to get my idea down, can someone illustrate this better?
also shade the whole thing
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>>29932372
Yeah, someone else is going to have to illustrate it, because I have no idea what you're getting at.
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>>29932482
I'll make an effort, though I'm not the most qualified.

In the top drawing, the angle of the line that connects the back legs is faintly greater than the angle of the line that connects the front legs. This should be the opposite, as shown below. This is because due to perspective, the closer legs should be slightly more spaced out than the back legs. Likewise, the line connecting her left legs (the ones facing us) should be slightly longer than the one connecting her right legs (the ones further from us) due to perspective, which is also slightly the opposite on yours. Last thing is that the bottom of her hooves are fairly flat on yours, especially towards the front of each hoof, which makes her look more 2D. I rounded them out in the bottom one to give them more depth, with it being most oblong at the front, to maintain that pony appearance of their hooves being rounder at the front. Hope that helped!
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>>29932457
Most of that looks pretty good to me! My only major point is that her front right leg (her right, not ours) looks a little too flat. Might want to give it a tiny bit more curve. May want to faintly curve the line for the back of her neck, too, just to keep it from being quite such a straight vertical line.
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>>29932545
got it, thanks famalam
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>>29921756

Day 6 -Villian - Dash can be the biggest cunt when she wants to be

Also need help on Dash's left wing.

>>29932457

As far as I can tell, you have a good idea on what to draw, but you need to get your line consistency in order. Have more confidence in your strokes, my anon.
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>>29932557
the lines were messy because it's a sketch but yeah i need more confidence, thank u for the input friendly anon
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>>29931064
>Are you stupid?
No, but clearly you are.
As long as drawing isn't funny, arousing or thought provoking then viewers will have only one reason to upvote it - because of its quality.

If you really think that there's no correlation between upvotes and how appealing drawing is, then you're retarded.
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>>29932858
>because of its quality.

You dont hang around DB much, do you? jesus fuck.

Be a stupid nigger and become an upvote slave then. Make sure to cash in that horse-fame when this fandom is dead.
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>>29932858
https://www.derpibooru.org/search?q=first_seen_at.gt%3A3+days+ago&sd=desc&sf=score

>vast majority of popular art is NSFW

If you want upvotes then just draw porn. If you want to get good at drawing then dont think about "what's popular" because it wont make you a better artist.
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How the fuck it's possible that people just start drawing and are pretty fucking good, while I've been drawing and studying for a long time and I'm still shit
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>>29933194
Its not a race. As long as you improve over time other peoples progress doesn't matter.
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>>29933237
I know, that's why I will never give up, but I've been drawing for a lot of time and made really little progress, while these people just start drawing and in a week improve in a really impressive way and I feel like they are already better than me in 1/250 of the time,

just makes me feel a bit depressed
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>>29933194
>>29933479
How much is a lot of time, and how much is little progress? Everyone always thinks they could have done more and there's always people who improve faster. A lot of Dunning Kruger is always at play here.
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>>29930282
link
it stings already let's make it work for you
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>>29933704
a lot is 6 years, and little progress is that if I look at a drawing that I made three years ago, it looks like the drawings I'm doing now, if not better.
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>>29933729
https://derpibooru.org/1376313
alright, I was trying to make NSFW for the first time
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>>29930045
You'll end up drawing the same shit in the same shitty way, a slave for the fickle public. Cases to consider:
> https://derpibooru.org/tags/artist-colon-aleximusprime
> https://derpibooru.org/tags/artist-colon-ivanovich
> https://derpibooru.org/tags/artist-colon-40kponyguy

At least the two latter ones have made it explicit that they draw with scores in mind.

>>29930282
if you're the whiny autistic muh leaking your cancerous doughfaced >picrelated then all pain you'll ever feel is richly deserved, and you need to fuck right off &staygo until you develop a rudimentary spine and something resembling a skin
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>>29933740
I wouldn't have bothered with the tag
I mean it's sorta shit but it's not that shit
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>>29933783
>it's sorta shit but it's not that shit
thanks, so what should I work on?
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>>29933732
Have you been learning and trying new things over the years? A lot of it is often because you're not putting in the extra time and effort into newer things. If you want to push your work further, spend more hours, weeks, even months on one piece. (I think I stagnated a bit myself until I spent 4 months straight reworking one painting learning how to fix my mistakes instead of dropping it for the excuse "I'll get it next time.") If you don't already have an inspiration chart, make one so you have a goal in mind too.
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>>29933806
well
- if you want to stay anonymous, use "anonymous artist" tag, otherwise it'll get tagged "artist needed" and some sleuthy wanker might end up tagging it with your artist handle

- treat the neck as its own anatomical unit, I know the show style makes it look like the torso and neck are a single, continuous sausage, but to make complicated poses look good you need to be aware what the neck is and what it does (look at real horses)

- ditto for wings, find the anatomical place they attach to and their basic structure

- try to keep all your limbs the same length and thickness
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>>29933999
I always try new things, like I always try new poses, lights, backgrounds, and even styles.

what's an inspiration chart?

P.S. nice dubs dubs trips
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Wew those numbers.

>>29934198
>I always try new things, like I always try new poses, lights, backgrounds, and even styles.
Then all you need is too apply. I believe in you, Anon.

>what's an inspiration chart?
Just a moderate sized chart filed with pictures from different artists you admire for different reasons. It keeps your eyes on the prize and helps you focus your studies more. Pic related is mine. I do a lot of color and anatomy studies to try to be as good as these guys.
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Anyone has some good tips on how to render metal piece? I have to make a weapon, big gun and I don't want it to look boring.
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>>29933771
>when your name doesn't appear here
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>>29933771
I'm not sure if that last guy really applies
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Made this today, it was on the Discord, but in case you mmissed it.

Supposed to be a joker-eque card, since the joker can be any card, and it's sorta appropriate with the bedboogs.
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>>29933771

Fucking this. upvotes =/= sign of quality.
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>>29935032
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>>29935404

Nice inspiration chart.
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>>29935404
I know he's a bad artist, you didn't have to make a collage. I just don't think he really applies to a more serious environment because he does it more for fun, his children (I think) and as you said, score.
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Have you guys gotten gud today?
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>>29935443
the links were literally the first three examples I thought of when I wrote "draw the same shit in the same shitty way"
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>>29935526
Okay?
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bom
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>Is quantity of upvotes on derpiboru correlated with quality of an image?
It's an interesting question and I spend some time doing research about this subject.
Here's what I learned:
- Drawings with score below 100 are amateurish in an obvious way: proportions are off, or lighting is inconsistent, or rendering is ugly, or it's a doodle made in your notebook, or nobody cares about topic of your drawing (it's your OC just standing there, or it's some cringy, edgy crossover with Bleach)
- Drawings that have score between 100 and 200 are much better, but they're still kinda bad: proportions are still off, anatomy on humans (especially hands) looks bad, unappealing faces, rendering tends to be flat, artist made weird stylistic choices.
- Drawings above 200 look good, they're appealing. It's a good idea to strive to reach that level. Some are traditional ink drawings, others are digital painting, but all of them have good proportions and anatomy. If some coloring was used then either it's very similar to the show, or it shows third dimension well.
- After reaching 200+ upvotes they stop to be related to the quality of drawing and becomes random. I found the exactly same picture (with only slightly different resolution) that once had 322 upvotes and another time almost 100 more upvotes (https://derpibooru.org/1327028 and https://derpibooru.org/1327030). I found beautifully rendered portraits with less than 350 upvotes (https://derpibooru.org/1299567), and a shit-tier drawings that had twice as much upvotes because artist included few lines of text (https://derpibooru.org/1290512). That being said (if you ignore drawings with text in it), then beautifully rendered paintings tend to have much more upovotes.

I was considering only drawing that are safe for work, not animated and older than 4 months (to filter out great pictures that didn't had enough time to get many upvotes)

>tl;dr
If you can't get 200+ upvotes without making jokes/porn, then study more.
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Is it strange that I like drawing, but I don't really find it fun?
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>>29936315
Lower than quality score can also be symptomatic of undertagging.
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>>29936425
Oh. I didn't consider that. Thanks for pointing it out!
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>>29936315
i consistently get ~20-30, should i kill myself?
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>>29936507
Just git gud.
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>>29936543
ive been trying for years
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>>29936543
Just draw porn, if you're just doing it for fame anyway.
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>>29936507
The first picture I drew in 10 years got 40 upvotes and no downvotes.

You've still got some way to go I guess.
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>>29936507
Don't read too much into it. Exposure counts, as does the number of peeps who follow your artist tag and/or the tags you usually post into. Some tags have rabid hatevoters, some have foam-mouthed fanvoters, both make differently themed pics stand on uneven ground. Getting +10 on a modestly dressed dark-skinned canon character is way bigger of an achievement than getting +200 on a generic pair of tits.

See >picrelated for two of my draws, top one is literally just my OC standing there. Basically the same score with the painting, but the top one got a lot of extra views from being in the community collab and more importantly, being posted in the collab thread which a lot of folks were checking out a lot.
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>>29936605
My best has 479 but on avarage i get about 150. A lot to improve i guess.
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>>29936856
Yup, but I've got time.
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How do I draw humans from life if I don't have any good way to reference them?
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>>29936845
Yeah, but you're drawing OCs. OCs hardly get any votes, even if the picture is good, because you just can't be arsed to care about what's going on in the picture.

You should really drop it, it's a bad habit.
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>>29936957
Dude, there's tons of material on the internet. Just go to /ic/ and ask "Where can I find naked women for anatomy study?"
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>>29936983
I thought you were supposed to draw from life.
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>>29936845
Did you seriously upvoted your own picture?
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>>29936992
You just need to be able to see a fixed pose from multiple angles.
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>>29937043
Okay.
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>>29936315
This is a pretty gross understatement. Not counting porn, the biggest factor in having a popular image on Derpibooru is being a popular artist. Artists like CaptainPudgeMuffin and Yakovlev-vad are so popular that their art quality has actually declined, but they still get several times more upvotes than high-quality art by unknown artists.
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>>29937094
>CaptainPudgeMuffin
Ugh, I hate that artist so much.
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>>29937005
Yeah I did. It's my favourite out of anything I've posted there yet.

>>29936974
Who shall lift a cat's tail, if not the cat himself?
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>>29937144
The point is if you're going to be making OCs, do the rest as well. Make your own world, your own characters and your own story. Don't latch them onto an existing universe.
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>>29937166
Oh this old argument.

I'm enjoying the fandom in my own way ok? I rarely draw canon characters because the images I want to see of them are basically always already drawn, in a style and quality that I can dig. And in case it soothes your jimmies, I'll assure that almost all of my pony OCs are established pre-existing non-pony characters with their own stories, worlds, fellow casts, etc.
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>>29937309
Then why keep imitating something else? You'll never grow this way.

You've diverted so far from show canon that nobody interested in MLP will care, yet not taking the plunge completely so you'd have something that would be enjoyable on its own merit.

Seems like a pointless endeavor to me, but if it makes you happy I guess.
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>>29937436
you need to bait harder m8
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>>29937578
Not every opinion is bait, anon.
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>>29936315
It's all really horse shit. LeUpboats xddd and skill level are apples and oranges. I know some brilliant artists that don't get any recognition because they were either cucked out of it by art thievery, or they don't upload because it's too much of a hassle and they don't care for such things because they get jobs fine just submitting their stuff privately.

I hope you guys aren't doing this for upvotes either. That's a quick burning fuel to git gud. One day something you put effort on will have a fraction of upvotes compared a shitpost and you'll feel terrible enough to quit. The only feedback you should focus on are from other artists, preferably ones that are better than you. and your better judgement.
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>be me
>uploaded image
>get more downvotes than upvotes
>start to cry
>see images that are obviously much more shity than mine with hundreds of votes
>cry harder
>fix image
>get more upvotes than downvotes
>still less votes than complete garbage
>itsanimproment.jpg
>never visit again
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>>29937803
What if you draw for others' satisfaction?
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>>29937958
If that's a secondary thing, sure. But in the 3 years and few months I've been drawing seriously, I noticed that people that started at the same that did it for the wrong reasons have all quit by now or keep coming back to it with no improvement. The only other artists I talk to now are either also just starting, or they genuinely love drawing and painting and it brings themselves satisfaction. They're also the ones to improve faster.

Some people are too easy to satisfy so I've defaulted to thinking, "lmao get better tastes, fag," when someone mentions they like my art. From an outside perspective from normies, I've been told it's a very negative attitude to not be receptive of compliments from them and be “overly critical” of myself all the time. But I actually do love painting and I don't feel any satisfaction unless someone I look up too who said I had the problem prior, complements me on that specifically, or until I’m satisfied.
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>>29938118
I like to draw but I don't find it too fun. What's wrong with me?
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>>29938118
In other words, you just want the upboats from people you look up to. Gotcha.
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>>29938118
your tastes are shit
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>>29938136
How do you mean? It doesn't have to be fun the whole way round. Past block-in I find rendering relaxing because it's meditative.

>>29938138
Yes :^)

>>29938175
M-my art waifus are pure. PURE
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>>29938251
It always feels like a struggle throughout, whether it's studying, experimenting, or making an actual picture.
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My horses always look static and stiff. How do I make them look like they're moving around and stuff?
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>>29938288
Try to stop struggling too much, the more you try an make what you think the baseline of "perfect" is, the worse the outcome will be. Just draw what you like, apply what you learn, and always do your best to fix mistakes you see and you'll probably find it a much better time.

>>29938340
GESTURE
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>>29938363
How do you know how the body looks when it moves around?
>inb4 practice
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>>29938118
I noticed that people are like it. I know my - for now - pony art is shit, always when I come here with something I am getting corrected on so many things. But people outside say they like it. I've even done some commisions. Not bad work but still even if buyer tells me they like it I still feel like I sold them shit. Maybe it's an issue with me being to critical for myself but that is not bad isn't it? That's the way to improve I think.
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>>29938118
I don't care about upboats, I never give them myself, I just save what I like. So for me the only recognition is when someone posts something I've made.
>lmao get better tastes, fag
Kek, that's familiar. But I only think that ironically.
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>>29938363
How do I gesture with horses?
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>too stupid for understand Loomis

Just reading Fun with pencil and I can't understand the pose,
I read the wrong book or what?
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>>29938398
>>29938698
Practice. :^)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVdT607oxAE Just watch irl poners do irl poner things. Play some youtube videos in slow motion and try drawing some gestures and figures based off it.
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>>29938792
thanks
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>>29932529
Thanks, that actually helps a lot.
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>>29932557

Day 7 - Friendship aaaaaaaaaaaand done.

>>29934243

Thats a good idea. I may have to make 2. One for my art goal, and one for my lewd artist goal.

>>29938792
>>29938363

Thats a GREAT FUCKING IDEA. I've done human gestures, but never thought for a second to do horses.
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>>29938698

Observation.
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>>29890111
Check'em
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weary bump
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did this to hurt the ones i care about most
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>>29936507
>i consistently get ~20-30, should i kill myself?
You're Afh, aren't you? https://derpibooru.org/tags/artist-colon-aafh
If you actually listened to our advice instead of being an arrogant dickhole, you would've already become pretty good. Only a retard or an ignorant can draw everyday for almost 4 months without any improvement.

Honestly. You're just wasting your time. If you won't change, then you'll never make it.
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some book other loomis?

or what im doing wrong?
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>>29941803
if i was afh i'd kms
totally different artist i swear
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>>29942109
kek
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>>29941803
That's not me, but thanks for being a cunt anyway.
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>>29942397
>responding to honest criticism with a shitpost
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O just lost 3 hours of work. Can someone kill me?
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>>29942836
>just lost 3 hours of work
How?
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>>29942836
Shit happens, but see it as an opportunity to redo what you lost and see if you can do it faster. It's frustrating, but the only thing you can do now is learn from it, always save and try not to get discouraged by setbacks like this.
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>>29942836
I bet you didn't lose the experience you got from doing it though.
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>>29942397
>harsh but real criticism
>"cunt"
this is why you're shit
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>inb4 Afh replies with "I don't care what you think"
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>>29941906
loomis isnt bad per say. but it's good try branch out. check out Michael hampton or glenn vilppu.
also look into reading up on perspective as it greatly applies to drawing more convincing anatomy when combined with constuction. so perspective made easy br Earnest R. norling is a good starting ground.
once you know the construction you can learn to apply it in a more 3d space with perspective.
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don't die, thread
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>>29944758
DAMMIT JIM, I'M A DOCTOR, NOT AN ARTIST
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>>29943773
b-but muh loomis
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>>29946185
loomis still is good. i prefer hampton though~
he shows you the muscle shapes so you can see how they're are placed in perspective
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>>29943773
>>29941906
>perspective made easy br Earnest R. norling
lmao nice meme. If you want the same book without pseudoscience proven wrong in the 70's and exercises you can do with pencil and paper alone, Look up Charles Bargue's training course. It teaches you how to learn and observe from real life so that you don't need much of anything else. I'm not saying don't read anything else, but you can get a lot more out of them knowing how to observe things for yourself. Loomis especially is just a proportion guide. It wasn't meant for people to try to construct a human body with.

Personally none of these books really helped me. Studying from life and some good old Eaton's anatomy lessons helped me out a lot.
Cyborg Vilppu is always for worshiping, though.
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>>29946416
i'll look into that course. i only used Perpective made easy as a basis for the rules. along with parts of scott robertson's book.
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>>29881595
day 3
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So I just dug out my tablet after about six months of doing nothing in terms of art (and only drawing sporadically before that) and I hammered this out in an embarrassingly long amount of time. The character is, ostensibly, some bastardization of Anonpone. I know it's probably a waste of time but I'd like a little feedback on where exactly to go from here.
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>>29947009
That's actually not too bad, considering personal style. I'd probably make the front of the body stick out less ahead of the front legs, the left eye (our right) looks too far from the other, and the bottom of the jaw is just a little too long, which in conjunction with the color scheme and the square-ish jaw, gives a crocodile-ish appearance. I'd give some curve to the undersude if the jaw, and shorten it. Probably the solution is, rather than moving the pony's left eye forward, to move the rest of the face back.
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>>29947009
I'm not really in any position to give art critique but I do want to talk about your attitude. I'd recommend dropping that heavy self-deprecation stuff, even if you do really feel that way. It may make people take you less seriously or make it seem like you're fishing for compliments. I know how you feel but it's probably not good to act this way too much in the long run.
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Thoughts? I just draw sometimes on the spur of the moment. I'm not good at coming up with stuff on my own. I need references and I struggle to draw hooves and hair especially.
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>>29947178
Lines under the eyes are thicker than the lines around the rest of the eyes, giving it a tired or drugged out look. Props if you were going for that? Mane is a bit too uniform in its scraggily-ness, it's uniform trisngles most of the way around. Might want to vary that up into larger and smaller ones to make it look more natural. Legs are too straight and too short. Scoot the forelegs back a little and make them curve in a little on their upper halves, adjust the angle of the back legs so they're not angled so far forward like the pony is about to fall on its' ass. The rest is pretty good!
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>>29947178
->
>>29947197
also
his ear grows out of his eyebrow
his front legs are on backwards
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>>29947009
kinda cute
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bump
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>>29943773
It's "per se".
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bump
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>>29948134
>>29948647
Draw something, you fucks
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>>29948678
Will do after writing
I swear
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Fukkit, might as well drop this here. Anyone got any suggestions?
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>>29948757
better sketch than what I've seen in a good while
not correct
but a decent sketch

as for anatomy:
- shoulders should join at the withers on top of the spine, not inside the chest
- pastern angles on RF and LH legs are overly steep
- RF leg is missing its knee joint
- where is the caudal spine?
- where is the cervical spine?
- a mouth that open needs some additional detail or it'll look like a sockpuppet
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>>29948945
Thanks for the advice. I usually add detail to the mouths later, but for a preliminary sketch I usually just map out the general shape. You're absolutely correct about all the anatomy points, though I did include the knee I might not have made it clear that it was that instead of the elbow. I also tend to do the pasterns a little more extreme to make them usable as wrist analogues, though I will definitely keep it in mind for the hind legs.
But yeah, I tend to rely a little too heavily on gesture and need to do a proper anatomy study when I have the time to sit down and do so.
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I tried changing the pose a little so I could do the left-hoof-next-to-face thing that redliner suggested since I thought it was cute. I'm just really unsure whether this looks alright, mostly concerning the twisting body and placement of the right arm. If I could get a bit of /ic/ or a redline, that'd be much appreciated.
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Photoshop a shit.
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>>29949240
It's for photo editing, not drawing.
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>>29949334
It's got plenty of tools to make for a great drawing and/or painting program, not to mention the hundreds of addons you can add to it to extend its capabilities. Photoshop is one of the most versatile programs in existance. There's a good reason why a LOT of professional artists use it pretty much exclusively.
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>>29949334
Thank you.

THANK YOU.

Really, THANK YOU.
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>>29949381
>rawing and/or painting program
The main problem is that it has terrible brushes for drawing, and its brush engine is extremely inflexible.
From what I've seen, there is pretty much no way to make brushes that are anywhere near as good for painting as you can in programs like Paint Tool SAI or Krita.
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>>29949240
It's not, but you are.
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Why not use both SAI/Krita AND PS?
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>>29949407
The engine is pretty shit, not gonna argue with that. I'm not a fan of it myself, I've tried using PS for drawing exclusively several times and I always end up turning to another program simply because it feels better. Lazy Nezumi actually makes it pretty decent though, and you can get some pretty good brushes if you know what you're doing.


>>29949460
This, PS is GREAT for finishing touches, post-processing and other editing. There's pretty much nothing you would want to do to an image that can't be done in Photoshop.
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>>29949460
I'm doing it now, thank god.
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>>29949460
>all this newfangled shite
Ms Paint all the way youngfags
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>>29949490
>Ms Paint
What a poser. Real artists draw only in notepad.
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>>29949524
>Notepad
>not clay tablet and pieces of reed
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Do you like my cave painting?
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>>29948177
I don't really care as long as my point got across lol.
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>>29949334
>>29949401
i draw in ps just fine. It's all a matter of preference.
>>29943773
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>>29950511
I can draw in PS too, but the other programs are EASIER to make line art and blend.
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>>29949725
>this multi-pigment fad
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>>29950536
It's not the tool that makes the artist. People create art with the weirdest shit, there's a video of a guy doing a portrait of the numa guy with chocolate sauce and a spoon.
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>>29950564
It's not all artist that aren't lazy.
And most of the time the important thing is get the art done.
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>>29950583
Yes.

Go draw a pone, anon.
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>>29950536
true. but i guess i dont really do line art. mines more of sketch, then values under, merge then paint over/color edits
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>>29948757
I KNOW WHO YOU ARE, STRANGE SNOUT MAN
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bump
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>>29951101
lol
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barn
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>>29953045
How do I stop my humans from look so shit, just buckle down and keep at it? Mostly just take references and construction line from that but it still has that uncanny aspect about it that I can't accept. It's the same with all of my human drawings.
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>>29951101
Shit, jig's up
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>>29953146
Look up some tutorials on gesture and line of action, it should help you get your stuff to look more animated. Anatomy is just part of the equation, and relying too heavily on your skeletons and proportioning will inevitably make a picture look stiff and robotic.
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>>29947028
>>29947030
>>29947722
Thanks, Anons. I followed the advice of >>29947028 and it's certainly an improvement over the original version. The only thing that looks out of place to me is that, after I moved the front legs forward, he looks a little fat, but if I keep playing with this then I'll never stop. Thanks for the help; it really made a difference.
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>>29953146
Is he about to spank her?
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I'm still learning how to draw humans
Can I get some pointers I can use to imrpove it?
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>>29954631
and this?
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>>29954631
study anatomy and gesture
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How the fuck do you draw a circle?
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>>29954807
>make pages of circles everyday
>????
>profit
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What did you guys do to actually learn the fundamentals? I get that practice is a big part of it but I still can't seem to wrap my head around this stuff. And is there any particular order I should be doing this stuff in?
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>>29954868

There's no wrong way to start but its important to identify what your intentions with art are. It may take a while to even figure that out since it takes a lot of self-exploration. The process of figuring out what to do and how to study it is a challenge all on its own. No-body here can tell you what to start with first. You begin with figuring out what you like. That's really the key here: having standards and figuring out what you like. You can have high standards but realize that it may take a while to get to those standards. Just be patient with yourself.

Since you're in a pony draw thread I have to assume you want to draw characters. That alone can encompass many things like perspective, anatomy, color theory, line weight, proportions, your hand-eye coordination. etc. And it won't stop there. As you go along you're going to realize more and more just how much you're going to need to know and it can get overwhelming quickly. Its your job to break apart these problems and work on then slowly, one at a time. Drawing in itself is a fundamental block so as long as you just keep drawing everyday and pushing your limits you're going to get better. There's really no other outcome.

https://youtu.be/nJtriGiRJzE
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>>29954868
my suggestion is look
Examine things, in real life, see the shapes, angles, the proportions of the parts.
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>>29954891
Does this mean I need to start over from square one? I feel like I've fucked myself over and did things out of order.
>>29954908
Do you have any tips for doing that?
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>>29954936
>I've fucked myself over and did things out of order

My first sentence said:

>There's no wrong way to start

So no. You just need to keep going and do some soul searching.

>Does this mean I need to start over from square one?

Fundamentals are an on-going process and something that has to be applied consistently. It isn't "I learned it once so I'm done." Draw, figure out the issues you're having, then ask for advice on how to study it. Life studies are a good start.
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Me drew this
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>>29955517
That is a nice drawing
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>>29955757
Thank you.
If anyone has any tips for me for the future on what I can do better or what I should focus more on please do tell me.
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>>29955807
Forelegs seem a bit oddly placed.
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>>29955807
>>29955811
yeah forelegs are fucked up
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>>29955811
>>29955990
Alrighty, I'll look into it. Don't know why I didn't spot that earlier.
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>>29939406
I tried a lower angle.
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>>29957278
eyes and muzzle are still fucked up
try doing a series of headshots
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>>29957410
Have they gotten more fucked up recently? I've been having some joint stiffness problems the past week, and I'd like to know if it's more due to that or an error in technique.
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critique on this retarded pose i decided to try?
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Occasionally I browse the "how to draw" books at my local craft store and I found this one and I knew you guys could use it for your own humanizations.
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>>29959940
Oh and don't forget how to draw your humanized heads.
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Oh and don't forget to always practice pic related
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>>29960447
Thanks, now I can finally improve.
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>>29960484
Well you know I only exist to help you guys git gudder and I feel like I'd be failing you if I didn't share this very important tutorial as well (pic related)
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>>29960504
For real though I would legitimately love to see someone try this tutorial out.
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>>29960504
Now I can impress both /a/ AND /jp/!
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>>29960513
yes! I finally get to use this
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I want to try my hand at cell shading (bordelands, Windwaker, etc..) Does anyone have any decent tutorials? I don't want to have a handhold tier tutorial, but something to leave me a lot of room.
Using Sai2.
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>>29959940
>>29959952
>>29960447
>>29960504

Thanks for those. Now I hate art and everything about it.
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How's this for a pose?
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>>29960821
Perfect~
>>29960581
Do you have any attempts at cell shading? If I can see I can show you what you're doing right and wrong. I'll look for a tutorial meanwhile
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>>29960581

I should mention I've been attempting to go for a more cel-shaded look recently. Its still a heavy work in progress. Learning to ink digitally has been a huge challenge.
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>>29961218

Excuse the cringy sig.
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>>29961216

I'll include the .sai so if >>29960581 wants to see it he can.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/5br8zwp1b2cumoe/twilight.sai?dl=0
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>>29960581
Fundies. Once you understand light you'll be able to do it, and emulate any style you please. Right now your lighting looks very inconsistent. Hold on, I'll give you a paintover in a sec.
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>>29961387
Here, tried to replicate both styles as best as I could. Notice how for both, despite stylistic choices the very same rules of color and light still are applied the same way.

It's good that you have a goal you're reaching towards though. I wish you luck and good gains, Anon.

Also,
>Not using phtotoshop masterrace. lmao.

>>29954936
I remember feeling like that. Studywise, it does. But no one ever really starts at square zero with visual art. We've all communicated with a visual medium as children before we learned to speak. Now that you know how to improve on that, you're already way ahead of the curve. All you need is to do it.
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>>29961527

That's nice, rat. Thanks alot.
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>>29954807
make them in a quick but light stroke, if wrong repeat, once you're happy with the result, draw with a stronger line.
>>29954647
improve the appeal of your faces
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>>29960581
>>29961216
>>29961527
Well I'm an idiot. I thought your work looked a lot like Post-itbro. And as it turns out, it was and you two aren't the same people. My crit still stands though.
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>>29961618
It is Pos-it guy. I've seen that on his blog.
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>>29961964

Yeh das me.
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it's ok I guess
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>>29962234
No, it's not, try harder next time.
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How do I understand how to "skin" the hooves correctly? Also, is there a way to tell the limits of each joint?




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