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Would you like help drawing ponies? This is the thread for you! Please do look at the tutorials below as they are essential to gitting gud

Previous thread: >>29966375
Request thread: >>29992465

>What is this?
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https://design.tutsplus.com/tutorials/human-anatomy-fundamentals-how-to-draw-hands--cms-21440
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second strike
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>>30079498
Why does Anon look like a low-poly model from a PS1 game?
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>>30079958
Cause it's a block-in.
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can I get any kind of general /ic/ ?

I'm aware of putting too much pressure on the pencil, I'll try to address that in the next work.
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>>30080053
symbol drawing, symbol drawing everywhere

copy something
copy it upside down
copy it upside down, obscuring parts you're not actively working on as to keep it abstract
ignore your brain's whines to let it interpret the shapes into symbols

try it and we'll see about that
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>>30080290
I don't think I understand, why is the symbol drawing obvious? How would I even draw without interpreting shapes? I don't get it
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another anon told me my necks were too thick so i tried to make this one thinner than it was on fluttershy
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>>30080487
fixed a fuckup with the hair that made it look like they were balding
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>>30080509
and im retarded and didnt post image.
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>>30080053
Everything's fine but Scoot's face. Her eyes are a little bit too close to the top right corner of her face, to the point where they protrude from her head. Basically, make the eyes smaller and move them to the left a bit. The line on the left of her neck should start where her shoulder ends. This should make both the neck and the head a bit thinner.
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>>30080053
the iris and pupils are too small compared to the rest of the eye
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Can anybody recommend a software for making cutie marks/eyes? Mostly for a plushie, something about vectors I heard.
Also, is there anything wrong in my drawing? I'm pretty new to this. It took me ~6hours
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>>30081286
So you need something for making vectors? Inkscape, It's designed to make vector graphics, also it's free but this doesn't even matter.

This head looks fine to me. Shadows could be more defined tho.
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challenge dump incoming
from a month ago

#5: Outdoors
is there a simple way to "block" in wind blowing over grass?
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#6: Villains
i realize i ignored the square jaw = stallion tip from earlier, i fixed it in the last one hopefully

not much to ask for beyond
>how u mak symetricl
but that comes down to practice
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#7: Friendship
i forgot to resize them, whoops

traditional was fun, but hopefully i can start doing digital again in the summer
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gump
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>>30083580
>>30083586
>>30083591
Oh, I didn't know anyone was still doing them! I really should myself. That friendship one is my favorite. Good job on finishing!
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>>30083591
Oh and how come you can't do digital right now?
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>>30084586
Believe it or not, my dad sat on my tablet.
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>>30084614
Shit I've stepped on mine a few times but it's pretty hardy and is fine. I'm sorry your dad fucked you. You can get cheaper tablets in the $50-$100 range though (yes that's "Cheaper") depending on the size of your monitor. I just use the smallest Intuous (5x3"?) but I also only have a 17" monitor because laptop.

I hope you can get back to digital soon, but while you wait, why not try more mediums? Watercolor/watercolor pencils aren't very forgiving but are fun to do. Charcoal is very forgiving and is probably my favorite traditional media and cheaper than watercolor/wawa pencils
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>>30081286
- be aware of the curves of the neck, they can make it look tubby
- outline of back skull going over the neck line into the head's silhouette is not correct, makes the head look like a separate piece on a neck-shaped pillar
- nostrils backwards
- the farther nostril usually isn't drawn for 3/4ths views--you can draw it in if you want to, but know that this will make the end of the muzzle look squarer and flatter
- ear fluff originates from the edges of the ears, not the ear cavity--see photo refs for better ear fluff
- give forelock more volume to avoid the impression of flat rigid mane on top of a flattened skull
- forelock volume also affects the height of the horn intersection
- hair ties and bands work by squeezing a bunch of hair tighter at a point--as such the band should be the narrowest part in the hair detail, and the untied hair mass above and below should be wider to show the bunching up
- show style ears would be about one half wider and wouldn't have the inner edge drawn in, and becaus you have the show-accurate giant eyes here I recommend making the ears a bit larger to match the style
- remember to other eye lashes

Overall not even that bad tho.
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>>30086917
Draw a horsecock already holy shit
Draw her making out with rainbow
Draw her on her back facing you
idk Anon do something
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>>30086917
>>30083580
>>30083586
>>30083591
the difference between you and this other traditional anon is variety: the other anon draws all sorts of shit while you're constantly drawing the same fucking thing thinking you're making progress
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>>30086917
Is it just me or is the shading/light off?
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>>30088629
At this point he's either so retarded that he just hasn't gotten the hint and has ignored any meaningful critique or he's just fucking with us. My bet's on the former.
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>>30086917
Did i ever tell you the definition of insanity?
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Second time something I made was used as OP.
Not sure if I should be proud or ashamed.
Maybe it more functional to think about it in terms of "should I work hard" or "should I work very hard".
this is actually a bump
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>>30088782
It's autism.
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>>30086917
Draw this in 30 minutes
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>>30092131
Listen. You're not going to improve if just keep doing the same thing over and over again, because then that's the only thing you'll know how to do. You'll master one pose for one character and while, sure, it does look nice, you won't learn to do ANYTHING ELSE.
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>>30092147
I'm not sure what you mean by that, seeing as I've been changing the pose every day for the last week.
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>>30092174
Dude all you do is flip poses or change one thing, like an arm in a different place. Do something front the front or draw a pony flying. Be creative, fuck.
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>>30079498
Middle is definitely the best.
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>>30092174
Get radical, bruv. Draw different ponies and critters. Go outside and draw a tree.
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>>30092199
Just in the past couple weeks I've drawn her lying on her back, bucking, climbing stairs, and propped up against a wall. How is that not pose variety?
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>>30092235
Because it's all the same. It's just a pony in profile doing things. Like, it looks like you're just using a pony generator for poses right now and you can't improve if you don't try to do harder things, trust us bruh
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>>30092174
>>30092235
Okay, you're legitimately retarded. We've been saying the same shit ever since you first showed up here and you're just now starting to get it. If we need to hold your hand all the fucking time and tell you the same thing over and over again then you should just stop wasting your time and get the fuck out right now.
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>>30092247
>>30092496
If you wanted a different angle, you should've just fucking said that. Don't tell me to do different poses and get angry when I do that. Jesus Christ.
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>>30092653
>I can't think for myself
Jesus Christ, dude. It's not that difficult a concept. Draw some shit, then draw some other shit while learning why the first shit was shit and how to un-shit the second shit.
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>>30092653
Wow
Okay, I'm kind of retarded and bad at drawing, but even I thought to draw different angles when trying to improve.
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>>30092653
You don't listen to anyone, if you're improving it's at such a slow pace that we just can't honestly see it. It's not that we don't want to help you based on your skill level, it's that we don't want to deal with your shitty attitude and you not applying yourself to like dozens and dozens of critique. Don't blame us that you can't improve if you can't take critique.

I say this all the time, but I don't care what a person's skill level is as long as they actually want to put in the effort and learn and you don't appear to be in that position right now.
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>>30093128
This right here. Especially the 'effort > pre-existing skill' part. It's about applying yourself and genuinely working to improve. Not just expecting to get good at it within a few doodles. Art is a lifetime honed skill, and it takes hard work to progress.
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>>30092207
>not appreciating a good rebound
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>>30092653
Your drawings are repetitive, painfully methodical, and rigidly constructed. You only ever apply explicit, literal directions, and get confused and mad when people expect you to read between the lines and show even rudimentary creativity.

You're so autistic it's affecting your ability to function. Get help.
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yow
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>>30094822
>yow
A-wake me up before you go-go
don needja hangin on me like a yo-yo
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>>30092662
>Waah, why won't you do what we tell you?
Well, could you maybe be more specific?
>Ugh, you want us to tell you what to do? Think for yourself!
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>>30095592
If you're looking for specifics, I'm pretty sure I suggested to really test your observational skills and do some still life with toilet paper and a lamp 1-2 threads when you asked me about bounce light.
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>>30095715
You did; I remember.
>>30095592
We give you SO many ideas and you don't want to do them. It's like asking a child what they want to eat for dinner but they say no to everyone. That's how you act. So toughen the fuck up and listen to us.
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>>30094082
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So a question for the experienced guys:

Drawing something seems like a lot of planning.
You got an anatomical body on a picture plane at certain degrees and a light source and things that reflect light differently and you got gesture and maybe something like a story or message that picture can convey and composition and all that other stuff you need to think about.

How often do you draw something without thinking about all this stuff?
How long do you take for this stuff to plan out?
How do you plan?
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>>30097027
You must practice something conciously before it gets internalized.

Depending on the complexity of the work times will be different.
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>>30097027
>How often do you draw something without thinking about all this stuff?
90% of the time
>How long do you take for this stuff to plan out?
5 or 10 minutes
>How do you plan?
I draw a lot of sketches until I get something I like, but even planning doesn't mean it's what I'm going to stick with for the final piece
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>>30097027
idea first, then thumbnailing

all the thumbnailing

then sketch, then underdrawing
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Someone commented on one of my pics that they felt the fact the only the ponies had outlines was a bit inconsistent. Now, I like using the black outlines, but I kinda agree about it being inconsistent. Is this a problem, and if so, how should I go about fixing it? Would maybe making things that are being interacted with outlined like in traditional animation work?
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>>30097667
>underdrawing
?
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>>30097726
the first thing you need to do... is work on that goddamn anatomy. starlight looks like a tumor
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>>30097749
Can you be more specific? I'm a bit retarded, you see.
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>>30097749
That's not because of his skills tho
:^)
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>>30097760
But yeah, your shimsham seems fine
but the head of starlight seems a bit weird, her muzzle is too low and the bridge not shallow enough, also her eyes aren't placed correctly.
Eyes should be a tad higher. And maybe they're a bit too big.

And about the outlines I'm not going to say shit, it's more of a stylizing question, do whatever you like IMO. I personally don't mind it if it's for cute pictures like that.
Maybe try to color them, just like in the show. That way you can keep them and still don't make them pop out as much.
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>>30094054
I like the simplicity of it. It's not so basic as the left and the right looks over detailed. The middle does everything it needs to to show lighting, give atmosphere, and add a little flare to the character.
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>>30097728
clean pencil version of the image, ready to be inked

not messy and try-out-thingsy like a sketch, not finished/inked like lineart
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>>30097823
>ready to be inked
or drawn/painted on or vectored or whatever it is you kids do on your smartboxes these days
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>>30097808
I guess I should start looking at talking animations more closely. I feel like I have a lot of trouble with how the jaw and stuff moves. I've tried colored outlines before, and I don't think I can really make them look good.
Thanks.
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>>30097830
Oh, and by the way, do you have any criticisms about the background? I can always use help with that.
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>>30097841
I don't know shit about scene composition and background stuff, but maybe someone else here can help.
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>>30097726
Try outlining in color instead of black. Give Sunset a maroon and Glimmer a dark purple. Also the background is fine without an outline
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>>30098051
The eyes as well?
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>>30098136
That's up to you; you gotta let your creativity flow. . This is how I do my eye colors. I basically just use the darkest color on the palette. Also keep in mind this is a WIP
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>>30098181
I tried keeping the eyes black, and it didn't really look good, so I tried something similar to you. Does this look alright?
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>>30098214
Yeah that looks p good. Sunset's muzzle/face looks a bit weird though
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>>30098242
her hair does not help
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>>30098242
>>30098247
I was trying to go for like an "ooh" face., like pic related. As for the hair, There's only a reference for what it looks like from one profile view, and I tried to come up with the other one based on https://derpibooru.org/947240
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>>30098284
First, bad references aren't an excuse. The hair you drew for Sunset looks really bad. I know her hair is tough, I've drawn it myself, but sometimes you just need to think how something works from a 3D world to a 2D one. Also you should pay more attention to AJ's face; it should be more like how you drew Glimmer's just a little pushed out. It shouldn't be that hard since your Glimmer looks fine
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The light source is slightly in front of her.
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>>30098495
I'm sorry if I came off that way but I wasn't trying to make any excuses.
>sometimes you just need to think how something works from a 3D world to a 2D one
Do you have any advice or recommendations for what I should look at for this kind of stuff? Or if it's just "draw from life" what kind of objects should I be looking at?
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>>30098566
Ffff uh, let me see if I can draw it for you
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>>30098214
>>30098284
This is how I would do it and I used http://i.imgur.com/o763agd.jpg for the hair because I think it's a good side part for this side
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>>30098697
Aw, shit, I was too vague again wasn't I? I keep doing this to you, I'm really sorry.
You know how ponies manes from a different side look different (I think they don't usually do this because their hair blocks their faces?) I was trying to do that.
I had made an estimation based off Rarity's mane before, but I dropped it in favor of the one based on the JEM comic. Does it look better, or is it still bad?
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Sorry to interupt glim glaming but is this pose even decent? I've looked at some real horses doing this and tried to picture it on a waifu pony. It seemed easy because everything is hidden but was hard to do. Also I feel face is fucked up but I've drawn it in like 3 minutes after struggling with body.
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>>30098801
I know dock is not visible from this view, I just forgot to cover it.
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>>30098762
No, I know what you were trying to do but it didn't look good and hiding half her face doesn't look good either
>>30098801
I GUESS. gimme a minte
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>>30098860
But isn't it bad if the mane keeps switching sides?
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>>30098875
If rest of picture is good no one will notice mane on different side. It's always better to not hide face imo
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>>30098875
I personally think of it like how on a play on a stage you're never supposed to be facing away from the audience. The face should be visible whenever possible, as that is the focal point of most images that aren't porn and like >>30098890
said most people don't give half a shit.
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>>30098875
Nah. You're not drawing this shit for the show; no one's going to give a fuck like >>30098890
says

>>30098801
Face is fine, I fixed some shit like the bod and where the ponytail should start and the arms etc
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>>30098899
Also this
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>>30098890
>>30098899
>>30098902
I see. Should I do the same with manes like Rarity's where it actually does act like that at a certain angle?
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>>30098918
You can, but you can also try to just shift it slightly so it isn't blocking the face. Alternately, you can just change the angle of the head so it's more of a 3/4 view than a profile view. Again, I'm going to draw on the stage comparison; you want the face to be as visible as possible when a character is being focused on, so if you need to "cheat" it a bit, do so.
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>>30098902
Make her thicker? I have tottaly nothing against it.
And what does this "bitch pls" mean. I can't figure it out. Mounth to high?
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>>30098918
It's up to you m8. You could also watch uh, the first EQG? Wherever she firsts shows up as a pony, for other ideas.
>>30098933
also fine
>>30098934
>bitch plz
twas a joke
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>>30099696
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>>30098284
for an ooh face you gotta stretch the muzzle a bit to sell it

currently the face looks like it's pushed in

also, just based on your ref, the top half of her muzzle should be more rounded at lip line and the lower lip both rounder and shorter
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>>30100513
For some reason I thought you were writing out song lyrics. Also I redlined it, but feel free to add: >>30098697
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Wake me up
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>>30101964
WAKE ME UP INSIDE
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>>30097027
>You got an anatomical body on a picture plane at certain degrees
>and things that reflect light differently
>Composition
This is internalized for me, I don't think about it as much. I just do.

>gesture and maybe something like a story or message that picture can convey
That's my main focus when I start something. I'll think of story and lore a lot.

If it's a really complicated scene and it's for a commission sometimes I'll use 3-D block-ins to make things move along a little faster though.
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Is drawing from imagination the hardest thing about drawing? if you ignore depression and self loathing
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>>30102609
Well it depends how you take it. My ponies are shit because I always do them from imagination. When something comes to my mind I try to make it and if I can't figure out something I try to find refs. That is why my anatomy is often fucked. I know it but don't know exactly how it works from certain angles. And foreshortening is a nightmare...
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>>30102609
Boxes. The secret to imagination is everything is BOXES
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>>30102651
>>30102631
Maybe i stay in a fucking place because i don't use thing I should. I just use some circles and lines.
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>>30102609
It is for me but I've been doing art srsly for 18 years, so a it's easy for me.
>>30102667
Then change how you attempt an anatomy? you don't HAVE to use circles and lines. There's this from the Imgur pony gallery nobody reads, pic related
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>>30102178
SAVE MEEEE
i did it
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I feel like I am improving today. Odd.
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>>30103995
Examples?
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>>30103506
CALL MY NAME AND SAVE ME FROM THE DARK
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>>30104425
aka page 10
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>>30104000
>>30104000
gotta serve these numbers
will post soon
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Kind of a meta question, what's the best way to drawfag outside of Draw Thread?
Should I announce "Hey I drew this" every time I post my art and risk being called an attention whore, or should I not, and risk anons not realizing it's an original content and be ignored and feel like you wasted your time drawing that shit?
Is it normal that I feel ecstasy when I get (You)s on my art and completely miserable when I get none?
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>>30104657
Get a Tumblr. This thread is for art help.
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>>30104657
If it's good content I'm sure it will be saved and reposted later, at least I do that. I'd recommend announcing it when someone asks but there's nothing wrong with saying "I made a thing" if there's a thread for the thing, chances are it will be appreciated.
It's absolutely normal.
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>>30104657

Make a tumblr and a DA.
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>>30105538
That lighting tho
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>>30105569
Could you be more specific?
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>>30104723
>>30104998
I already have one, but most of my creativity comes from /mlp/, and I want to contribute to a thread that isn't a greentext
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>>30105853
Post your work here and we can help make it better. If you git gud and take requests, shit man you could probably just go to the Draw Thread or do live requests.
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>>30105853
Why not post in the regular Draw Thread? You could also be like, "Hey guys (in the Nightly Twi thread)! I drew this and thought you'd like it!" sort of thing. Whenever I do this the thread goes nuts and even if you're not so great they'll still very much appreciate it.
>>30105613
Your shading is inconsistent. There is more than one light source and there shouldn't be while you're still learning. I'd give this a redline/paintover but I'm feeling really sick atm, I'm sorry.
>>30104657
Make a Tumblr; no one likes DA anymore but also post to DB
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Rider (Bump!) Rider (Kick!)
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I always have troubles drawing ponies interacting,
how the fuck do I draw ponies hugging?
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I haven't drawn anything in about a month and a half or so, but now I'm wanting to get back into it. This was the last thing I was working on that I left off with. I think the thing I remember struggling with mostly is line width; please give an overall critique.
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>>30106781
Practicing would probably be your best option. I've been told that drawing two characters interacting is very difficult, but also very good for improving your overall skill so it's good that you're doing that and trying.
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>>30106812
practicing is what I do every single day of my life, but ponies are just weird to draw together, I don't know how to pose their bodies
actually even when I draw solo pics I usually default to a boring pose because I have no idea what to make them do
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>>30106812
practicing is what I do every single day of my life, but ponies are just weird to draw together, I don't know how to pose their bodies
actually even when I draw solo pics I usually default to a boring pose because I have no idea what to make them do
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>>30107333
Then fuck it up. You'll get more out of making something terrible in a dynamic pose you have no idea how to do than perfecting a boring pose you've done so many times before.
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>>30107492
man you are right,
I'm too scared of the outcome to keep doing something I don't know how to do usually,
even if I already knew it, your comment made me realize that there is nothing bad in not getting things right, as long as I learn something from it.
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>>30107333
hot tip: look at real horses
stuff like playing, broncos, liberty classes at shows
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>>30107584
fugged that up sorry
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>>30106809
http://i.imgur.com/vDqekQX.png
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>>30107584
L-lewd
whatever that was supposed to be
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>>30107619
눈 ͜ಎ눈
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>>30107579
that doesn't always work
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>>30104000
Just to clarify:
Improving from worst garbage to not the worst garbage
There is still a long road ahead to even become mediocre

here is /currentstack/ http://imgur.com/a/Z0tOr

no bully pls
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>>30108050
Sure, there is a loooong way to mediocre...
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How would you shade a pony being completely surrounded by their magical aura (like Starlight when she self-levitates?)
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>>30108778
You don't.
The sun doesn't have any shadows on it.
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>>30108811
Oh.
Thank you.
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>>30108050
>here is /currentstack/ http://imgur.com/a/Z0tOr
It's a complete garbage.
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>>30108050
fuck off, Zimbabwe's off-hand
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>>30108050
what... am i looking at?
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>>30108050
Take this picture, turn it upside down, and try to copy it. Post your results.
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>>30109378
>what... am i looking at?
My attempts at drawing.

>>30108958
Yes but it is better than the garbage I drew before.

>>30108387
painfully long

>>30109146
I tried my best but I fucked up the proportions and the head. and most likely a lot of other shit
Any advice on how to improve and maybe get to a level that doesn't make you want to vomit would be very much appreciated.
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>>30109784
>stravinsky
hey that's not half bad
see your brain CAN work when you make efficiency hard enough

getting rid of the "what I think I see" and entering the "what I actually see" needs work

our brains are built to recognise and stereotype patterns in the ceaseless data flood of our senses, it's how we've survived, so you gotta get clever and really analyse and concentrate on the pure geometry of shapes and proportions and angles and relative positions of whatever you're looking at

the upside down drawing exercise helps, since the brain isn't great at recognising patterns in unfamiliar views especially when it's wonky like that Picasso there

in a way, the pattern recognising part in your brain shrugs and says "idk wtf that thing is but it doesn't look dangerous, whatever" so your analytical part gets some goddamn peace and quiet
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>>30109784
>pic
Do you have a brain damage or some kind of sickness?
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>>30109937
>not knowing what it is
lurk moar or gtfo
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>>30109937
What? his pic is actually nice Anon, what are you on about?

>>30109784
You did okay Anon, better than many even.
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>>30110008
>his pic is actually nice
What the fuck is wrong with you?
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>>30110073
Show me the one you did when you started drawing Anon.
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>>30110079
And how is this related?
That pic looks like it was drawn by 7-9 years old child.
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>>30109937
most likely both but I can only confirm one which actually consists of many different ones

>>30109907
Thank you.
But it should be much better by now.
>our brains are built to recognise and stereotype patterns in the ceaseless data flood of our senses, it's how we've survived, so you gotta get clever and really analyse and concentrate on the pure geometry of shapes and proportions and angles and relative positions of whatever you're looking at

I googled a bit about symbolic drawing but most results turned out to be worthless so I downloaded "edwards-drawing-on-the-right-side-of-the-brain". Maybe it will help.

>getting rid of the "what I think I see" and entering the "what I actually see" needs work

Maybe I need to change perspective more often or something to avoid getting stuck in what I believe to be right at the moment I draw it or I need to change my state of mind when I draw.

The thing is when I draw stuff I draw it they way I believe it is right. Why would I draw it the way I think it is wrong? Guess I just can't spot my own mistakes because I am kind of stuck in my own way of perception when I draw. I just can't help it.

>>30110008
This is like an example of something that seems to be a fundamental problem.

Some of the stuff I posted gets literally picked apart then I try something different and it is not as shit.
So one thing means I am complete garbage and the other one I am doing acceptable.
Like I am trapped between two extremes, 1 and 0 if you want.

I think bad of myself when it comes to drawing and secretly hope that the perception others have of my stuff is better. When it matches my perception of my skills it feels like stab with a knife tbqh.

Some picts got strong negative responses while others weren't mentioned which gives me hope that not all were so fucked up.

This inconsistency of mine drives me crazy.
I know I make mistakes but I just can't spot them and I can't fix them. It is driving me crazy. Send help
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>>30110073
>>30110110
I know I suck. Thanks for pointing that out anyways.
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>so you gotta get clever and really analyse and concentrate on the pure geometry of shapes and proportions and angles and relative positions of whatever you're looking at
No matter how hard I try and how much I learn about it, it won't just get through that thick head of mine.

And trying to find patterns and geometrical form of things that only exist in my imagination is an obstackle I find myself unable to pass in many situations.

How did you guys get to your level? I don't want to be shit anymore.
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>>30110131
If you already know that then stop whining and go improve your drawings. Use references, do studies, work on your lines, shapes and perspective.
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>>30110164
>I say I feel like a got a bit better.
>Someone says post stuff.
>I do.
>People tell me it is shit.
>Someone points out an exercise to help me improve.
>I do it.
>Someone says it is okay.
>(You) say it is shit and I suck.
>Guess-why-am-in-the-drawfag-improvement thread.jpg

I fail to understand you and I'll leave it at that.

>stop whining and go improve your drawings. Use references, do studies, work on your lines, shapes and perspective.
will do
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>>30109937
>>30109953
>>30110008
>>30110073
>There are people in the drawfag help thread that don't know the upside-down Picasso Stravinsky exercise

How?
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how do i make my art less vapid and uninteresting
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>>30110123
>The thing is when I draw stuff I draw it they way I believe it is right. Why would I draw it the way I think it is wrong? Guess I just can't spot my own mistakes because I am kind of stuck in my own way of perception when I draw.

That's your problem right there. Or rather, your biggest problem right now. You draw what you believe is right because you think you know, but you don't. You need to work to get out of that mindset.

>I just can't help it.
No excuses.

>Drawing on the right side of the brain
I've got that book, and just as a heads up, most of the pseudoscience in that book is bullshit. It does have some pretty good exercises that could definitely help you with your problem, though. Just don't read too much into the whole "science"-aspect of it; what's written there has been proven wrong plenty of times.
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>>30111330
>No excuses.
Is everything a damn excuse to you guys
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>>30111330
>You draw what you believe is right because you think you know, but you don't.

Not that anon but the biggest hurdle to gettin gud is letting go of what you think is correct and realize that you know next to nothing about art and it's many facets. Accept and embrace your ignorance and a lot of self-doubt goes away. The sooner you get out of this unconscious incompetent mindset the quicker you set yourself on a path to competency. Being consciously incompetent is a huge phase in art so you better get used to it.

This is a slow process and requires you to become a totally different person over the course of a few years. You have to become someone who can get good at drawing. The artist you are right now IS NOT the same artist you're going to be five years from now if you just keep at it.

https://youtu.be/vIoTV_GnnEs

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect

>>30111515

Stop making excuses and develop better taste.
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>>30111519
>Stop making excuses and develop better taste.
What the fuck does that have to do with anything
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>>30111528
If you dont know what that means you'll never make it.
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>>30111529
Can't you just say what you actually mean instead of just spouting memes
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>>30111536
"I can't help it" is an excuse. You can help it, you just gotta learn how to and then ingrain that in your head.

Watch the video the other anon posted, also check out some of the guy's other videos.
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>>30111700
I'm not the guy who was asking for advice.
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>>30110250
that's two or three posts by one ignorant faglet and one by a faglet who knows and is dissing on the former for not knowing
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>>30111519
It seems hard, yeah, but that’s actually a pretty small hurdle. The big one is learning to trust your very own intuition as a human being again after many months or even years of ignoring that voice in your head because you deemed it the biggest traitor to base skill level on. True fast gains seem to come after the first year of git gud when you learn to love yourself again, embrace your tastes instead of running away from them to try and do poor copies of what the “new you” think the baseline of “good” should be, and learn that your intuition and inner critique is not your enemy but your greatest and only real friend that knows the real you. ;_;

>You have to become someone who can get good at drawing.
This. Remember to forgive yourself when the time is right, Anons.
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>>30110597
step out of your comfort zone, be ready to fail spectacularly (it won't hurt you and is useful for your growth so drop the shame), try new things

most of all, remember that you're drawing characters with thoughts and reactions and emotions, not designs that look a specific way and that's it

even if it's just Twilight standing there without background, come up with the circumstances: is she posing for a picture, is she inspecting something, is she waiting in line for her newest geekgasm book?
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I've read all of this even watched entire video and FUCK. How the fuck do I do all of this if this doesn't give me fun but makes what I like a responsibility? Isn't a hobby (i don't want to do something with drawing in my life) something we like to do to forget other life aspects? I don't want to draw breathtaking landscapes or photorealistic faces. I just want to make some fun art of things I like.
I really admire people who can do all of this madness.
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>>30112663
If you just want to do it for fun then keep doing it for fun m8, nothing's wrong with that.
But this thread is for tryhards and wannabes.
You can still post here tho, but some are really harsh and expect of you to improve, and want to improve.
And you should, even if just for fun. Getting better is a big part of drawing.

It's up to you to find the right balance between having to force yourself to do the basics, and having fun drawing shit using what you learned.
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>>30112663
I too wonder about it a lot but I only see it as something to push through on the way to what I want to draw. Learning things is only fun when you're actually learning it, but when you're just starting it it's fucking terrifying and I hate it. I've been catching myself on the thought that I'd rather stay in my comfort zone than risk making more mistakes on top of those I already make. Don't get caught up in this turmoil, it can cost you weeks of progress.
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>>30109146
Hey, I did this exercise. He's shouting "kill me" internally but I tried.
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>>30112196
that's pretty good advice, thanks man
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>>30112194
>True fast gains seem to come after the first year of git gud when you learn to love yourself again

I can relate to this. First year of drawing was a mess for me. I'm just glad it was the "first year" and not "the first five years."
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>>30112663
>Isn't a hobby (i don't want to do something with drawing in my life) something we like to do to forget other life aspects?

Yeah but at the same time why be shit at your hobby? I'm having fun but I also really don't want to be shit at drawing. I take it seriously and if you're posting in this thread I assume you're here to take it seriously too.

>>30112682

>It's up to you to find the right balance between having to force yourself to do the basics, and having fun drawing shit using what you learned.

P much this. If you find yourself not having fun then take a step back and draw the shit you like to do and don't even critique it. Just let it come out. You'd be surprised on how many happy accidents you'll have when you're just letting it flow.
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>>30107803
I made this a couple years ago as a study/tutorial, not sure if it's what might work but it works for me
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>>30113751
>>30107803
Oh wait i forgot I made this too. I'm aware of my pony anatomy fuck ups like the head but the points is to show how to take a horse pose and turn it into a pony pose
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>>30113697
No one want be shit at his hobby. Unless you want to live from drawing you really don't have to put yourself in all of this. And I think all of it will come no matter what and how you draw as long as you draw and try to elimante mistakes.
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>>30112663
>isn't a hobby supposed to
you can do whatever you want

there's a good chance future you may curse present you for not giving a shit tho
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Currently linearting this, but something with the eye on the left irks me, and I can't tell what it is. Any thoughts ?
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>>30114157
Well... The only thing I can think of is slow progress. What can happen in my future. Career of young adult switching his jobs 100 times before getting decent payed job you don't hate in barely 1st world country sound fun. Ha ha...maybe I should think about this
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>>30114351
Mean the eye on the right. Well, it's his left eye, but whatever. The iris looks off.
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>>30098522
her tail is coming out of her hip
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>>30114351
can you spot it if you look at it zoomed out?
how about mirrored?
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>>30113946
I don't know why but I like this.
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>>30115568
Sounds like avarage russians in dota. Then it all goes into cyrylica
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i know this is pretty edgy and shit. Anything I could improve on? I can post more examples if needed.
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>>30115979
their noses make them look like sheep. have you ever seen a real horse?
also nice >edge, loser
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>>30116223
now that you mention it, they kinda do. haha
The nose thing is kinda something I picked up randomly and it sorta stuck. I personally like doing it but I can understand if some people might think of sheep.
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>>30116223
But I'm kinda looking for feedback on what I can improve on. Thanks for the feedback though, friend!
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>>30114351
I moved some shit around. The eyes were too close together, the ear is almost coming out of the eye so I moved that up and to the right a bit, and I suggested a, uh, for lack of a better word, less ugly way to draw muzzles. I honestly feel really bad saying this, but right now it kind of looks like Unstable Fables: http://i.imgur.com/o219YZd.jpg
Really I'm not trying to be rude, I just want to point out what I think the problem is.
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>>30116925
Also my redlines are mostly like, where I think your eyes and ears should go, while the muzzle is the best I could do trying to keep your style a bit
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>>30116277
>>30115979
>>30116289
Reference actual horses and the show, not sheep.
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>>30116945
I didn't really use sheep as a reference but okay. Are there other improvements I could make? I kinda feel personally that the nose isn't much of an issue. I didn't really think others felt so strongly about it.
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>>30116960
Drawing the full body will help. I'm going to be honest, but it really does not look good and is actively restricting you getting better. Look at >>30116925 to see how to draw a muzzle.
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Here's a sketch I made for a drawthread a couple weeks ago.
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>>30116960
>I kinda feel personally that the nose isn't much of an issue.
That's more of a stylistic choice, but it really does look like sheep, not horses/ponies
>>30116970
>to see how to draw a muzzle.
Yeah but that's not how I would draw muzzles. The boxy look isn't aesthetically pleasing to me but maybe others like it
>>30116985
Size it down, rotate it or we won't bother
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>>30116960
first thing is letting go what you think is ok and do the thing that is actually ok.
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>>30116970
Yeah, I've noticed I've been lacking drawings of full bodies. I'll work in that more :) thanks anon
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>>30116988
Oh sorry about that, my phone sucks when posting photos on here. I'll see if I can fix that
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Hopefully this helps. If it gets messed up, I apologize about that.
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>>30117025
Thank you :) Your perspective is a bit weird and the muzzles are weird too. like the little pony's smile goes up and touches her eye? They both have sheep noses again. I can understand you personally might like it, but it's confusing to us and sometimes you just need to give up stylistic choices in favor of something more accurate or better looking. You can also just tell me to fuck off and do what you want and that's fine too
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>>30117040
Okay! Thank you so much for the feedback! I'll keep those points in mind and I'll keep working at it! :)
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>>30117144
someone drew the lyra and edited this into a gif comic and I love it
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>>30116925
Ah, I see. I'll fix the eyes and ear placement, thanks!

About the muzzles, I know they're pretty far from show style, but I guess I just picked that up from a few artists like in pic. Don't know if works or not, I'll have to keep experimenting with it.

In any case, thanks for your help!
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>>30117429
I'm not saying the muzzle is far from show style, that's not the problem, the problem is that it's just not appealing. I'm doing my best to be nice about this. Your pic related isn't bad but the sketch I redlined isn't as well done as that pic
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>>30117449
Sorry if was rude, worded myself poorly.
>the sketch isn't as well done as that pic
Well, that's the thing. I'm trying to go for that kind of look for the muzzle, but obviously it's not there yet.
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>>30115568
Nigga, you saved my shit?

Just why?
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That white part over her hand in the gif was still bugging me. And Ponk is scary.
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>tfw didn't feel like drawing at a time after getting help here, then kept getting distracted with fucking everything and suddenly it's been three months and still didn't even touch the stylus

So, um
I kinda want to draw but I kinda
Don't?

Do you guys ever have this kind of problem?
Is this normal?
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>>30118905
And another problem I have, even when I sit down and decide to practice, I don't really know what to draw

I've got the whole proportions down more or less but I'm practically drawing mannequins

So what if I find a bunch of photos of people in random poses and try to "remake" them with ponies?
Would that be any good as an exercise?
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>>30118925
gesture, gesture, gesture
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>>30118905
Just gotta draw. Best time as any to pick it up again.

>>30118925
Gesture drawing will help fix stiff poses.
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>>30118727
Haha, you gotta do what you gotta do
>>30118548
Well that's what practice is for. And every time you post it in here I will be here to draw all over it for you <3
>>30118905
Yes my friend, it's called depression. You stop doing things you love even though you want to, you have a lot of apathy, you can be sad but it's mostly the lack of caring even though you want to thing.
>>30118925
>people instead of ponies
Don't use humans for pony poses. Go ahead and draw them and gesture, but I think for pony poses you should use cats or dogs, they make the best models because they're closer to how ponies are built way more than humans. Here's an example of one of mine doing just that
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>>30119644
Oh, we don't have this in the imgur pony album but we also don't know who CAN put tutorials in there anymore
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>>30118647
I don't know.
It has a certain charm.
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>>30118905
Line of action: Learn it. Love it.

Also shit tons of gesture drawing, like others have already mentioned.
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>>30120502
You're welcome.
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how do git gud
>>30120055
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>>30120568
From all the ponies - if we want to stick to ponies of course - all pegasi are an easy topic for this. They can do whatever they want in the sky. For me it's easier to think of dynamic pose on them rather than boring earth pony but it's personal i believe.
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>>30120601

Study horse faggot.
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>>30118925
I feel the same thing.

You just kinda gotta force it, really. Force yourself to sit down and draw anything, even if it's a sphere.
Also, I dunno why but sometimes seeing other people talk about art just kinda pressures me into drawing. Like my brain just subconsciously thinks "these terrible artists are drawing, why aren't you?"

As for not knowing what to draw, I think it's kind of helpful to have a broad and simple goal in mind. Something like "draw a forests," "draw a vehicle," whatever. It might help to just look around your room and draw whatever you've got in there, too. Multiple times I've just attempted to draw a can or bottle that happened to be there.
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>>30122208
>"these terrible artists are drawing, why aren't you?"

r00d
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>>30122208
>these terrible artists are drawing, why aren't you?
Because on top of being terrible I'm also lazy.
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>>30122208
I know that feel. But all you can do is draw through it. Unless it's really bad and like, you used to enjoy art before but now you don't. I think a lot of people quit right before they're about to hit a breakthrough.
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>>30121693
If I pull that off, will you die?
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I did a quick sketch of a horse today; Too lazy to finish it though
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>>30123350
Your method isn't going to help you improve, anon. Like every thread, we've suggested branching out. To me, it's pretty much tracing
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>>30123073
It would be extremely inaccurate
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>>30123350
do headshots until you can do a face that doesn't look off model and weird
>>30123365
you should probably practice head anatomy as well
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>>30123350
You're an idiot to be quite honest family.
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>>30123350
Okay, I have a serious question. How many drawings do you do a day?
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>>30125309
Not him, but I can do 170 a day. If I don't have anything to do.

Without photoshop.
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I am aware this is no masterpiece but is it passable?
Gib tips pls
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>>30128029
Study and practice anatomy, and practice construction a bit. The most glaring issues seem to be related to that.

Also, you seem to be making the mistake of not thinking about the rest of the body while making a portrait, which might've led to the wings to looking so awkwardly placed and oddly sized.
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>>30128029
>is it passable
No.
>Gib tips pls
The usual.
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>>30116925
Alright, I tried fixing this. Is it any better?
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>>30128453
>No
i refuse to believe that you hate this
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>>30128932
naw the mouth, muzzle, and far eye were still weird
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>>30128029
- random curves at bottoms of fringe looks like she got the trim from a baby sister--bottom line of fringe should form a continuous shape, whether it's a curve or some fanciful shape
- overly curved side section of fringe makes the ear look like it's a separate item floating next to the head
- eyelids and eye whites are curved surfaces, shade accordingly
- tops on collars should not project straight at this angle, makes neck look thin like paper
- wide breast yoke on garment makes chest look very broad
- braid structure needs work, tutorials are easy to find so check one out
- the wing is oversized and the primaries are too long in relation
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>>30129312
This looks far better than >>30128932 . I know you want to do your style, and that's fine, I just think that original chin made absolutely no sense anatomically. I'd still round out the bottom muzzle as it makes her look more masculine but it's your decision
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>>30129980
>looks like she got the trim from a baby sister
not the artist but i headcanon that she cuts her own hair; her bangs are uneven in the show too
>>30130375
that's a mare? i red(or gray)lined it under the assumption it was a stallion, so yeah definitely make the muzzle rounder
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>>30130375

Looking back at the first drawing, I do understand why it made no sense.
It's supposed to be a male character so that's why I went with a blockier muzzle, but I screwed it up again it seems.
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>>30128029

Wings are not cardboard that are glued to the body. They have bones and are attached to the scapula and have form and definition.
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>>30130512
>on model tho
consider me corrected
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>>30118905
Don't be a bitch.
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>>30130541
>>30130512
Oh I'm sorry I didn't know it was a male because it looked like Apple Jack
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>>30125309
I've been trying to do one a day, but I might not get one done today; I'm feeling really sick.
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>>30131960
Okay. Here's another one. How long does it usually take you to draw one of those pictures?

Sorry that you're feeling sick, though.
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>>30124897
Practicing head anatomy is something I'm more focused on at the moment. The proportions of the head I sketched felt pretty "off" to me, but I still feel like I've improved from my previous methods. Either way, practice makes perfect as they say
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>>30133708
Quality tutorial
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>>30133708
cute tutorial too
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>>30134900
Yeah I just wish we knew who runs the pony gallery so we can add more. I'm tempted to just re-make it entirely to add more tuts and erase a few that are really not up to standards
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>>30135080

no one looks at the gallery anyway.
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>>30135290
I do :( I mostly use it to help people I'm redlining though so they can see why their shit's not on point
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>>30135080
been wondering how you haven't already done this
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>>30135556
Because there are like, 100-150 tuts but I'll do it for you guys, sure. I'll announce it when I eventually do it
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>>30135601
themed sister galleries ftw
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I would also like to see a redone tutorial gallery. Redliner has done what, seven or eight ones all by themselves? Shit, they could probably upload a bunch of their redlines there. Could be the basis of a good one where a lot of the crap/inaccurate stuff is cut out.
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>>30137323
Do uh, do you think people would want to see my redlines? I have around 280, so yeah. I do have a few tutorials I've done, but I'd want to make sure they're polished first
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>>30137373
you can put your redlines in a separate folder, it's beneficial to see others fail and get corrected so you don't need to fail in every way yourself on the way to gud
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>>30137401
Alright, sure. I'm only including the good ones though. I can probably do this by Tuesday. I actually have a commission to finish :T
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My heads are shit, please help
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>>30137442
I did my best to keep your style
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>>30137583
thank you, any suggestion in how to make the eyes look better/ how to position them?
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>>30137613
for show style, they're very undersized
not necessarily an error but you must acknowledge the fact in any case
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>>30137963
I'm not searching for any style, just trying to make them look good,
I draw them differently in all my drawings and I'm never satisfied
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geaghh
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>>30137613
Go up to the OP, look for >pony, and click the imgur album. It will bring you to a fuckton of tutorials all full of this shit.
>>30137963
I made them small because he did and I was trying to follow his style but also fix the anatomy. It's kind of hit or miss when I have to do that.
>>30137991
Oh, I'm sorry, I was trying to make your own style anatomically correct-ish
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>>30139011
no need to be sorry for helping, it looks cute to me, and I hope to others too,
and that's all that matters.
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>>30132052
I've never timed myself, but as a rough estimate, I'd say about half an hour to do the sketch, 20 minutes to trace over the lines with darker strokes, and then another 15 minutes or so to do the shading.
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>>30139049
>and that's all that matters
gtfo
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>>30131960
I did manage to finish drawing something yesterday, but it took at least twice as long, because half the time I could've been drawing I had to spend shitting blood.
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>>30139257
I'm sorry what?
Could you elaborate?
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>>30139277
G is for GET
T is for THE
F is for FUCK
O is for OUT

Does that help?
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>>30139919
It'd probably help a little if you explained why you want them to leave
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>>30139943
Oh, that's not me, I just wanted to help them with the anagram
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Posted this on /gd/ but haven't gotten any replies. Opinions?
I think I overdid the dithering.
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>>30140548
Yes, you did. Did you copy the frontmost legs and use them for the back? Don't do that. They don't look correctly connected to the body, and the shading doesn't help. The colors are fairly bland for pixel art, and the shading doesn't seem to reflect the kind of material you're going for (I assume it's metal and glass?)
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>>30140082
That's an acronym, not an anagram.
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Is it like this everywhere? I can say 70% of drawing people in my local community are grills. Why is thas so? Are man afraid to express themselfs?
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>>30140573
Does this pallete look any better?
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>>30140691
Sorry, I should have clarified. I didn't mean replace the colors entirely, just alter the saturation and such. An important part of pixel art is clarity, and generally desaturated colors don't help with that. They can work, but not always. I do like the sort of caution pattern on the arms though.
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>>30140729
Oh, makes sense. Thanks.
I'd redo the shading now but I don't really have the time.
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>>30140760
That's fine. Good luck.
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What do you all think? The hat was really bothering me, I couldn't figure out its dimensions, honestly the hat was really problematic.
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>>30140606
You're an acronym
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>>30141004
The hat is actually pretty good, I'm more concerned about the lack of muzzle going on. Is it a filly? Also your shading isn't great because you diluted it and blended it all together but it's not a terrible drawing or anything
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>>30141525
It's hard to resist the urge to blend things. And I wonder why is that so. (not the guy)
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>>30141593
I'm no expert, but I'm pretty sure it comes from a lack of understanding of how light works.
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>>30141525
>lack of muzzle going on. Is it a filly?
I guess that's kind of my "style" though I don't like that term because it implies that its a given for a person's art. I kinda like/prefer that stubby look but I'd rather it not look broken if it is. What do you think?

>shading isn't great
I really struggle with shading in all honesty. I guess I've just done it wrong so many times that I've been accustomed to the repetitive, bad shading?

>>30141604
Could be. I learned a very basic way of how light hits angles and things. Mostly what types of shadows go where, but never really did a full-on study because I felt kind of intimidated on where to start in all honesty.
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>tfw you'll never draw cute poners
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>>30141660
find someone who do cute poners and try to copy learn from him.
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>>30141618
Nah I totally understand that. Sometimes you just have to get back to the basics and then, uh, "reacquire"? a style once you're super familiar with anatomy again. I've done it a couple times myself, especially when I redline.
Don't bother shading until your anatomy is better or you'll be too swamped to learn anything
>>30141752
Good artists copy; great artists[spoilers] steal
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>>30142202
fuckin typo shit it's 2am fuck it
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[wordplay with bump in it]
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>>30141004
her muzzle and left arm are nonexistant, her eye looks uncanny when it's unshaded but everything else is, ear too small, and it's been said but yeah the shading is really lame
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I drew a hoers and tried to turn it into pone.
This is the original image: http://reference.sketchdaily.net//static/referenceImages/roheryn_16_by_syccas_stock-d5oolgq.jpg

pls bully
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>>30144087
consider your deficiencies and repent
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>>30144187
Thanks anon, I retraced it a little. Is it any better?
I also had a go at shading.
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>>30144504
I'm sorry but all the legs are broken, the neck shouldn't be 2 feet long, and the head wouldn't rest at that position unless it's waking up and saying "hello world". You also didn't even bother to fix it with >>30144187
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>>30144773
And the arms are longer than the legs
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>>30144778
Sorry, I didn't realize the lines marked the length of the legs. I'll try again.
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>>30144821
If you're around in 4 hours or so I can redline it for you. Look at the OP and read the pony tutorial gallery
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>>30144858
Thanks. I'll probably be sleeping, but I'll look at it tomorrow.
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>>30144939
aight
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>>30104657
Tumblr, da and maybe draw regulary on picarto, thats how i got my small herd of viewers
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>>30141020
Do you realize how stupid you are?
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>>30141020
This is an image board for a reason kiddo, but you won't get the paddle this time, i used to make the same mistake when i got here

Lurk moar!
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>>30146571
What the hell are you on about?
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>>30146579
Fuggin all the fillies
Shiggy diggy
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>>30146621
I wish less people in this thread would meme and actually say what they're actually trying to say
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how the fuck do completely average artists like captainpudgemuffin get 200-1000+ score on every single pic they post and how do i copy their business model?
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>>30144504
hi stranger
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>>30147585
Decently drawn porn, cute stuff, decently drawn cute porn
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>>30147585
Draw constantly and have more people watch your artist name tag
Then, people will upboat your stuff even if it's just sketches
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>>30147585

Draw a lot and stop worrying about doing what the fuck others are doing.
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>>30148635
you're back to doing the same fucking angle again
be creative for once in your life, draw something with a point or meaning to it
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>>30142202
Alrighty. about the shading, I absolutely agree that my shading really needs to change. I'll look into improving that. But regarding the muzzles, I really like that stubby look it has, but I don't want it to seem like "Oh I'm too good for advice". What wold you recommend I do about the muzzle?
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>>30149597
check if ppl like it. It's not like it's bad. It's stylistic choise, if you feel like you know what you are doing it's ok. I have nothing against it.
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>>30149597
Sorry, I forgot to redline it. I'll do it now and show you how I would do it.
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>>30149648
I feel bad saying this but I really do not like that muzzle. It just kinda looks like Voldemort
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>>30149597
Alrighty two for one redline AND paint-over. I really really suggest you to use a muzzle like how I drew it because it still looks like your style, just a little, uh, better.
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>>30149648
I -am under the assumption that- more people like it then don't like it. I guess I could maybe poll about it on the different sites I post to maybe?

>>30149805
Really appreciate that dude. Regarding the shading, I see what you mean about the shading being a little bit more "aggressive" in lack of better words. I'll definitely experiment more with that in the future. I noticed in myself that I go very light and opaque to hide possible errors.

In regards to the muzzle, I'll look into and play around with it. I'm partial towards it current form, but there could be an even better one that I can find with some experimenting. Hopefully its just not detrimental if I decide to keep it.
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>>30149834
You're welcome. I really really advise you to change the muzzle though because right now you can't tell it's even a muzzle. It just looks like a weird facial tumor. I just think you should trust me on this. You don't have to, of course, these are just my feelings
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>>30149916
I always feel bad saying these kinds of things because I don't want you to stop drawing or anything, I just get blunt sometimes
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>>30148635
Retard.
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>>30149930
At least you provide some advice and try to help. there are people here who just blame others without even saying what they mean.
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Do you think the Guardians of Harmony toys are good references for at least the overall shape of ponies?
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>>30151426
I mean to critique it means I have to say good and bad but I try to pad the bad best I can which makes it sound like handholding, fuck
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General critique?
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>>30148635
This is the same shitty pose you've been forcing us to put up with from the beginning.

Also, even though you probably won't take the advice, her foreleg would be completely dislocated if it were pointed straight up like that. There are so many guides on joints in this thread that fucking up like that is almost inexcusable.
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Is there a tutorial for pony ears?
How they move and turn and different positions and angles?
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>>30148635
Do you do any other fucking poses? This is all you fucking do. Either draw other shit or get the fuck out.
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>>30153655
just look at real horses, pony ears are nothing but simplified horse ears
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>>30153461
>(2 MB, 3552x2000)
crop your shit
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