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>AJ yells at Apple Bloom for not wanting to follow a tradition
>Even suggests that she isn't a real member of the family for not blindly following said tradition
I guess MLP really does have conservative values. Is it strange that one of the best episodes in the show Flight to the Finish is a halmark for liberal values while one of the worst in the show is one the supports conservative values? Does this trend apply to other episodes as well?
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>>31147957
go get a blood transfusion in California faggot
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>>31147957
TOGF, you're becoming a serious sperg. Stop it before it's too late.
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>>31147957
Will you ever stop trying to start shit?
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>>31147971
What.
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>>31147957
It's almost like liberal values like love, happiness, accepting others, and being kind are better than conservative values of exclusion, disgust, hatred, and anger especially towards people who like the same things you like.
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>>31147979
Who?
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>>31148008
Why do people follow values as horrendous as those? Its a mystery to me.
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>>31148008
I've seen far more exclusion, disgust, hatred, and anger from liberal SJWs than I've seen from any conservative I know.
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>>31147957
Your understanding of conservative values is primitive and narrow. Typical libtard hypocrisy.
They're just building a cart, not choosing who to cast out of society.
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>>31148105
>comparing tumblr trolls
>to people you know irl
If you gave those people an anonymous posting board, they would unleash their real hatred.
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But applejack was wrong in this episode.
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>>31148110
Yet AJ suggests that Apple Bloom isn't a real apple for not wanting to follow tradition. May I remind you that conservatives actually do throw people out of their family for being gay or refusing to follow their religion.
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>>31148008
I agree. It's a damn shame liberals don't practice their values very often.
>>31148105
Go look at the people in >>31145820 then.
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>>31148118
why would that be bad for you, you could play victim even harder on your social media
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>>31148118
>AJs enthusiasm for a bland cart triggered your flashbacks of family stigma
Stop projecting your trauma onto MLP. AJ adores AB and everybody knows it.
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>>31148205
She certainly doesn't act like it at times. The ending made it clear she cared more about her traditional cart than Apple Bloom.
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>>31148158
oh please , the only thing you care about is trying to look good to others by endlessly virtue signaling.
You have never done any good works and likely never will.
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>>31148008
its almost like both sides are shit and claim they have a monopoly on something the others have while asserting that the others have a monopoly on everything bad that they also share.

that said, mlp is a left leaning show and anyone who doesn't think so is a moron, the show is about a female dominated species and portrays women as heroic, career focused, and that they should explore what makes them special, not what makes them like everyone else.

That alone is a giant fucking middle finger to the right.
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>>31148234
do you have that screencap for why fluttershy is wrong on suited for success?
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>>31148273
>The key vote [for women's suffrage] came on June 4, 1919, when the Senate approved the amendment by 56 to 25 after four hours of debate, during which Democratic Senators opposed to the amendment filibustered to prevent a roll call until their absent Senators could be protected by pairs. The Ayes included 36 (82%) Republicans and 20 (54%) Democrats. The Nays comprised 8 (18%) Republicans and 17 (46%) Democrats.

The majority of the original feminists were conservative
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>>31148281
No. What does that have to do with anything?
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>>31148314
Democrats weren't always the liberal party. But you know that already, you are just intentionally spreading misinformation.
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>>31148269
could you cite your sources for these studies, or are those more facts you pulled out out your arse
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>>31148325
>>31148322
You cannot cite a single historical proof that the parties "flipped."
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>>31148325
almoond: activate
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>>31148325
>the parties flipped
>i cant prove it but you can trust me goy
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>>31148372
hmm
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>>31148323
Look up this study:

Empathy, Open-mindedness, and Political
Ideology: Conservative and Liberal Trends

Written by: Cosme, Pepino, Brow (2014).
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>>31148325
t. noseberg
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>>31148361
>>31148374
http://factmyth.com/factoids/democrats-and-republicans-switched-platforms/
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>>31148372
Christianity has passages as bad and in some cases worse than those, yet no one cares.
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>>31148393
>your patriarchy will fall when you read my required coursework for gender studies 401
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>>31148415
Name five
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>>31148404
>sister site to snopes
>accurate
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>>31148404
The answer is that we are both wrong. We are used to Dems and Reps being radically split on social issues, but this development has occurred over many decades and it's only in the past 30 years or so that the two parties have really differentiated themselves based on social "values." That vote in 1919 was successful due to both liberals and conservatives finding common cause against their ideological opponents, as you can justify women's suffrage and feminism with both liberal and conservative argumentation.

Perhaps the world isn't so black and white.
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>>31148490
You'll notice that Christian countries actually have given rights to women and don't force them to wear body-covering garments, for one thing. Unlike Islamic nations. They also don't stone people to death for being gay, nor are they establishing caliphates and beheading non-believers.

Just small differences of course.
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>>31148504
Because of centuries and centuries of secularism.
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>>31148005
CA recently decriminalized intentionally giving another person HIV
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>>31148508
You asked why there's a double standard, and there you are. Once Islamic countries have become civilized then perhaps you'll have a leg to stand on with that argument.
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>>31148521
If you're using the holy book to prove a culture is bad, you have to compare all holy books. The West would be and was shitty when it followed the Bible as its law/heavily based its culture on it. Of course places that base their cultures on shitty books are shitty. The cure is secularism.
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>>31148504
Exactly because we don't force religious law (most of the time). If the United States was non-secular and because a theocracy for Christianity, we would most likely be a regressive country.

If middle eastern countries started following Christianity instead of Islam, you wouldn't notice a difference in their behavior. Yes, Christianity even forces women to wear veils (its just that Christians almost never do this).
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>>31148314
indeed you are right, but it wasn't because they wanted women voting per say
they where after anti alcohol. just like conservatives now see women as the devil, before it was booz.
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>>31148537
I'm secular and I'm just looking at facts. Christian cultures in this current age, right now, are peaceful, while the majority of Islamic cultures are intolerant.
>>31148538
>its just that Christians almost never do this
Because they have been domesticated and are therefore far preferable to non-Westernized muslims who have not.
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>>31148552
indeed they are peacefull but they are still too fecund.
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BUT HER CUTIE MARK
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>>31148552
"Christian" cultures are heavily influenced by things that have nothing to do with Christianity. The reason those cultures are the way you describe is because of early Modern/Modern Western philosophy which was at best insistent on a different kind of view of Christianity and at worst openly hostile to it.
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>>31148114
Who said anything about tumblr?
I live in a blue state. I'm referring to SJWs I know irl as well.
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>>31148584
Let me guess. Someone called you out when you said an edgy 4chan meme in real life and you got all offended over it.
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>>31148577
You will notice however that such philosophy developed in and was tolerated by a Christian host country, and Christianity has subsequently adapted to accommodate that secular-driven thinking. We have not yet been so lucky in the Middle East.

>>31148578
I don't care about Christians rampaging in Africa. Africans rampage because they are Africans, it doesn't matter what they claim to believe. Christians in America and Europe are a completely different beast and are quite clearly a tolerant people, compared to Muslims in the Middle East who will stone women to death after they have been raped, and will bring that behavior with them when they emigrate. Westernized Muslims are fine but they are few in number comparatively.
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>>31148615
>westernized muslims are fine
You prove my point. This has nothing to do with the religion they follow, rather than the environment they are in. Many middle eastern countries are theocracies, if the United States was also a theocracies for Christianity, we would see people acting in a similar way as do those in the middle east.

Because the culture instead encourages secularism, people are able to break a way from the insane passages of their religious texts and follow only the moderate ones.

You should really care about stopping anti secular movements rather than Islam as a whole.
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>>31148632
I deal in reality. Western Christians are tolerant while Middle Eastern muslims by and large are not. This is an objective fact. And I know which one I'd rather live with in this current moment. Nothing more.
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>>31148644
You deal with simplistic absolutes; not questioning whether what you see is actually accurate or representative of a phenomena. You even admit that western muslims are fine, something that should be clear evidence that its not the religion itself that is causing people to do this.
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>>31148660
I don't see Western Christians stoning and beheading people and forcing women to wear burqas, do you?
>>31148667
I'll say it again: right now, at this moment, Western Christians aren't running around murdering people. They are tolerating their fellow countrymen. Which means right now I would definitely prefer a Western Christian over a Middle Eastern Muslim. Belaboring the point about the cause and effect of religion means nothing to me.
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>>31148667
Careful...the guy you are dealing with might just be a Sith.
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>>31148687
Well who exactly is running around murdering people? Last time I checked it wasn't a Middle Eastern that shot up Las Vegas
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>>31148714
It apparently wasn't a Christian either. Perhaps he was one of those godless secular fellows. Dangerous folk
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>>31148604
>implying anyone here is autistic enough to say 4chan memes in real-

Oh wait, no, I can see how you might assume that. But no, I'm more referring to things like my girlfriend's best friend advising her to break up with me because "his family is Christian so he probably hates gays", or my father being publicly accused of being a racist for "trying to tell a minority what to do" because he politely asked a black woman (not the person who called him a racist, by the way) to stop harassing a store clerk.
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>>31148481
>posts most from the Torah
whoa
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>>31148084
I know, why would people want to tolerate people that they don't know or like.
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>>31148725
Did I mention religion? He was a Westerner and he was not very tolerant as far as I could tell? How could the "civilized" west ever produce such a fine gentleman
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>>31148508
>secularism is what's bringing in Islam
wew talk about shooting yourself in the foot
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>>31148758
They do tolerate different people. They just don't like it when the "different" people outshines them.
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>>31148725
>Perhaps he was one of those godless secular fellows. Dangerous folk
Cult of reason
Calles law
League of the militant godless
Red guard
Juche
Khmer Rouge
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>>31148760
I don't mean to upset you. You simply wondered how conservatives could possibly distinguish between Christians and Muslims, and I pointed out that Christians by and large respect women's rights and allow homosexuals to live. If that isn't part of your conception of civilization then I apologize for misunderstanding your culture.
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>>31148768
That made me chuckle anon.
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>>31148578
Secularism views did nothing. Its all about who controls the power. Secularism did not improve Europe, it improved because it took authority from the Church ans the monarchy, and people thought that somehow equates a secular society.
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>>31148812
It's because sometimes the truth can hit so close to home you can't help but just chuckle at the fact.
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>>31148812
That's less to do with shortcomings and more to do with companies trying to save a buck.
They factory my grandma worked at closed down and went to Pakistan because it was cheaper to produce over there.
The union wasn't happy
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>>31148833
And why is that bad? That's capitalism at work, pure and simple. The cold war brainwashed us Americans to hate any form of socialism and strive for free market, where "hard work=opportunity" We are just paying the price.
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>>31148325
Retake your history class. Parties flipped when Nixon launched the Southern strategy and the beginnings of modern conservationism were founded by Barry Goldwater. Democrat party has always been the party of the South, especially during the 30s and 40s when Huey P Long posed the biggest threat to FDR
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>>31148860
what country do you live in?
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>>31148008
why are you lying like this

libs are the most hypocritical cunts i have ever had the misfortune of dealing with
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>>31148743
New testament says to follow the old testament.
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>>31148892
Wait a minute? Why is that relevant to the discussion?
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>>31148907
In speaking of “a new covenant,” he has made the first one obsolete. And what is obsolete and growing old will soon disappear. -Hebrews 8:13
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>>31148921
you say your government bans lgbt from military service. Now what country would that happen to be?
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>giving (You)s to an "us or them" samefagging OP
What did /mlp/ mean by this?
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>>31148939
That's what you're focusing on? Which one do you think?
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>>31148962
oh no sweetie just tell us
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>>31148931
No he didn't. The new testament is extremely explicit when it says "follow the old testament until the end of time" and "if you tell others not to, you will be considered least in the kingdom of heaven."
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>>31148979
That was the word-for-word verse, you incompetent.
"In speaking of “a new covenant,” he has made the first one obsolete. And what is obsolete and growing old will soon disappear." (Hebrews 8:13)
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>>31148978
>>sweetie
Ok, this is when I stop talking.
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>>31149006
come now child, dont be shy tell us. Or are you afraid that we are just about to catch you in a pack of lies?
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>>31149006
for clarity's sake, >>31148978 isn't the same person as >>31148778. i wanted to just leave it alone.
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>>31148990
If you bothered looking at the context of that passage, God is speaking in future tense, he is referring to an event that hasn't happened. To give more context, the entity of the new testament is preparing for the end of days, there are even passages in the new testament that shows people expressing concern over the fact that the rapture hasn't happened yet (showing these people thought it would happen in their life time). This is the event God is talking about when he wants to make a new covenant.
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>>31149161
Yes, when God is speaking in that chapter, it's speaking of the future. But the verse at the end which says the old covenant is obsolete is separate, thus why it is outside of the quotes of the section being said by God, with the phrase "a new covenant" in quotes, quoting the specific thing God referred to in the previous passage. The verse is saying that God's saying there will be a new covenant at all means that the old covenant is growing old and becoming obsolete.
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>>31147957
Super Speedy Cider Squeezy 6000 is literally anti-capitalism, suggesting that it's wrong for ponies to drink the cider that tastes better and is made faster because it would hurt one family. That's the most left-wing episode.
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>>31148273
>and that they should explore what makes them special, not what makes them like everyone else
That's pretty right-wing.
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>>31149233
sounds more like a repudiation of neoliberalism rather than anything strictly left or right wing
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>>31149201
But the actual new covenant never came into being, because it was one that would be formed after the end day events. The new testament is just supposed to be a build up to when the end of days were supposed to happen and dealt with how to survive that (this included following the old testament).
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>>31149239
Individualism is a core part of social liberalism. Social conservatism tends to promote conformity.
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>>31149351
to a degree. some social conservatives are opposed to globalism because it's perceived as a threat to the survival of individual unique cultures. you'll find some overlap amongst certain liberals as well, though they'll usually use terms like "imperialism" and "colonialism" to describe their concerns.
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>>31149351
I thought that disparity was between libertarianism and authoritarianism, not left and right wings.
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>>31148874
It's bad for unions good for free to work states like Texas.
It's why California businesses are flocking to Texas
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>>31147957
The episode was bad because the 3 adults were acting like idiots, not because of some right-think that you'll only see if you're projecting really hard.
Also Party Pooped had a moral about not changing your homeland to pander to foreigners who will wreck up the place regardless of your goodwill gestures.
That doesn't sound very left-thinking.

>>31148273
>conservatives hate accomplished women
Why do I always see this retarded shit?
It's like the Democrats accusing the Republicans of not voting for Hillary because she's a woman when the Republicans were voting for Sarah Palin as VP two elections prior.
Most modern conservatives have no qualm with a competent woman being in charge or becoming a firefighter or [insert any other male dominated field]. "Competent" being the key word. But more often than not, qualifiers are dumbed down or ignored entirely for the sake of inclusiveness and pandering which just hurts everyone in the end.
This is where conservatives and liberals fundamentally disagree. If an individual's feelings are hurt, then liberals say society must adjust to accommodate them. A conservative tells you to grow up and stop being such a pussy. Guess which ideology gave rise to nu-males, safe-spaces, and the special snowflake phenomenon.
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>>31149493
Thats how the free market operates.
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>>31147957
Christfags actually believe that this is the best way to raise children.
That's why so many of them are into homeschooling.
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>>31147957
Applejack is the token conservative-light character in a liberal show to both highlight the "shortcomings" of those ideals as well as tolerance to those with different ideals (as long as they are "too" different)
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>>31151128
Well homeschooling has raised smarter children, even if the media would try to scare you into placing them into a culturally diverse and therefore hostile environment.




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