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>No, no, that sounds too harsh, let me fix that...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBjDdKdq_tQ

>General Folder #1. Renaissance up to 20th century/modern classical. Also contains a folder of live recordings/recitals by some outstanding performers.
https://mega.co.nz/#F!mMYGhBgY!Ee_a6DJvLJRGej-9GBqi0A
>General Folder #2. is kill. rip Papillons
>General Folder #3. Mostly 20th century/modern with other assorted bits and pieces
https://mega.co.nz/#F!Y8pXlJ7L!RzSeyGemu6QdvYzlfKs67w
>General Folder #4. Renaissance up to early/mid-20th century. Also contains a folder of Scarlatti sonate and another live recording/recital folder.
https://mega.co.nz/#F!kMpkFSzL!diCUavpSn9B-pr-MfKnKdA
>General Folder #5. Renaissance up to late 19th century
https://mega.co.nz/#F!ekBFiCLD!spgz8Ij5G0SRH2JjXpnjLg
>General Folder #6. Very eclectic mix
https://mega.co.nz/#F!O8pj1ZiL!mAfQOneAAMlDlrgkqvzfEg
>General Folder #7. kill
>General Folder #8. The anon who made this loves the yellow piss of DG on his face. Also there's some other stuff in here.
https://mega.nz/#F!DlRSjQaS!SzxR-CUyK4AYPknI1LYgdg
>Renaissance Folder #1. Mass settings
https://mega.co.nz/#F!ygImCRjS!1C9L77tCcZGQRF6UVXa-dA
>Renaissance Folder #2. Motets and madrigals (plus Leiden choirbooks)
https://mega.co.nz/#F!il5yBShJ!WPT0v8GwCAFdOaTYOLDA1g
>Debussy. There is not an accompanying chart, not available on request.
https://mega.co.nz/#F!DdJWUBBK!BeGdGaiAqdLy9SBZjCHjCw
>Opera Folder. Contains recorded video productions of about 10 well-known operas, with a bias towards late Romantic
https://mega.co.nz/#F!4EVlnJrB!PRjPFC0vB2UT1vrBHAlHlw
>Random assortment of books on music theory and composition, music history etc.
https://mega.nz/#F!HsAVXT5C!AoFKwCXr4PJnrNg5KzDJjw
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fedora shit
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Legnani

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5u3gno70JS8
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>>81994521
What did Mozart fix with that exactly? Was it originally by someone else?
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Wagner is the only romantic that matters.
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>>81994816
It's mood muzak for stressed housewives.

>>81995243
Even Wagner wouldn't have said that and he was a ridiculous narcissist.
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>>81995328
If Wagner wouldn't have said that then he was wrong.
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Top five Chopin performers pls.
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>>81995497
Koczalski
Arrau
Rubinstein
Novaes
Bunin
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>>81995328
>this is an actual covert art of a real physical album
Mozart becoming popular was a mistake.
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>>81995243
no lol
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>>81995728
Mozart has always been popular you silly nonce. He was better off when underrated and only enjoyed by plebs.
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>>81995635
Thank you.
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Bach

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EhqWHdyHMA
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>>81996500
Fagch
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Wagner sucks cock.
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>>81997069
Fagner
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>>81997093
Fafner
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Buxtehude
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_K66xxNf2s
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>>81994521
I downloaded some of the music from the list but can't get it to play. I tried using the windows media player but it's not compatible. What am I missing here?
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>>81997449
more like fuxthedude
XDDDDD
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>>81997497
codecs
https://www.mediaplayercodecpack.com/
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>>81997497
>windows media player
Jesus christ, fucking boomers,

Just get foobar foobar2000.org

>>81997549
>codecs

BOOMERS!!!!
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>>81997618
If he can't handle wmp I doubt nerdbar2000 will suit him. Try musicbee instead.
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Verdi > Wagner

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S17XRQzo9cA
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>>81997697
>foobar is a nerdy program
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Is Scarlatti peak fedora ?
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>>81997818
Yes and more directly it attracts nerds like flies round shit, who believe they are getting a superior listening experience and believe they are programming while they fiddle with plug-ins.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMuFQoSxiW0
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>>81997728
>verdi > wagner
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>>81997956
You have a serious inferiority complex, boomer.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQYRGD2prAw
The epicentre of baseness.
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Perotin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ba5LXi760D8
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>>81998112
really ugly
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>>81999103
I started randomly in the middle and he played like 5 out of tune notes on the G string in a row.

Pathetic. Only accept people that have mastered the G string.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TosDeETPxR4

>>81999171
>he watches his music player
Do you sniff your toilet too?
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>>81998112
Szell is the boomer-core of classical.
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>>81999323
Yea, the young dude is probably very nervous. If you look at his arm it's almost like paralysed.
Vengerov is amazing though. Wish he had more substantial set of recording. Lots of his recorded staff is very hit-or-miss.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRJHTq6zY_U
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>>81999385
Nah, Szell, Reiner, Beecham, Barbirolli, etc are all Greatest Generation.

Boomer core are the fags that starting taking over in the 70s, Bernstein, Abbado, Harnoncourt, etc.
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Classical music doesn't feel like it has anything it's trying to express in particular. Most of the time it's always some kinda classy majestic feel that in most contexts just feels emotionally meaningless. Are there exceptions like where Bach has this busy yet laid back chill feel or some Classical/Romantic stuff's epic uplifting bombasticness or how creepy some of the serialist atonal stuff is or the hypnotic feel of minimalism? Yeah sure, but even those aren't very emotionally versatile either. Hell, ambient music does the busy yet laid back feel better these days for example. Now someone will call me a plebeian for not enjoying the complexities that come with analyzing these pieces, but if a musical artist uses all these techniques to create something that's ultimately not very expressive nor very atmospheric, what's the point?
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Hindemith

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kbdg7Bwk_gE
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>>81994521
Mozart fixed the game, Scriabin mastered it
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>>82000075
t. plebeian
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Can somene rec me some buttclassical??
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>>82000491
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2YuRrL3Bhw
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>>82000491
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C78HBp-Youk
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Why is this so good? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usUEuuUcaSg
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>>81999515
Boomer core is def Karajan
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>>82000075
t. hasn't listened to classical at all other than like Bach once
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>>81994627
good post, this Legnani fellow was quite good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQaMKMW9jwA
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>>81994521
i don't know shit about classical music since i had a shitty barely reaching middle class upbringing
i really like this album though. is this /classical/ approved?
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>>81995497
Rosenthal
Hofmann
Novaes
Friedman
Moravec
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>>81997341
Fapnerd
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>>82002622
>Walter Carlos
No it isn't okay, because she's called Wendy Carlos now.
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>>82003123
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>>82003347
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>>82000075
Maximum pleb
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>>82000075
>or how creepy some of the serialist atonal stuff is or the hypnotic feel of minimalism
You, sir, are a turbotard
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Mahler sucks cock.
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>>82007104
Agreed
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>>82002622

It's okay
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>>81995328
>Mozart fixed Monday-itis! Now I'm going to work smiling!
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>>82000075
Shut the fuck up, pseud. You haven't listened to more than 2 hours of classical overall in your life.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tc51cnV6YJI
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>>81995328
Why do boomers do this
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>>82000075
>his busy yet laid back chill feel or some Classical/Romantic stuff's epic uplifting bombasticness or how creepy some of the serialist atonal stuff is or the hypnotic feel of minimalism?
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Why do people like Goldberg variations? Other than Aria, it sounds like Bach is doing finger exercises and hitting random keys.
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>>82008323
How many times have you listened to them
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>>82008435
5 times
Goud 55
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>>82008587
Not enough times
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recomend me liszt
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>>82009510
Faust Symphony, Trascendental etudes
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3JQSPCVuLM&t=15s
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>>82009535
recomend me more liszt
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>>82009900
El contrabandista
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>>82008323
The Goldberg Variations arranged for saxophons: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kw8i0ct1dTw
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>>82009900
Symphonic poems
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Is Paisiello good
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>>81999323
thot leaning forward for that titty graze
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>>82009900
bach transcriptions

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLiDUR1KvLE
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More like this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcL4J0pzlAg
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>>82010633
Very good. La serva padrona is an essential opera and I really like his piano concertos, best of the classical era, other than Mozart. Much of the rest hasn't been recorded though.
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>>82011217
Yeah I've just heard his Barbiere and loved it. Gonna check that out.
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>Who is the most overrated composer of the classical music canon?

>Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart. I know, I know, but before you hit the back arrow and start calling me horrible names, let me explain myself. I want to be as clear on this as I possibly can, just so we’re on the same page: I like Mozart’s music. I really do, and there’s some of it that I truly love. Honestly, I have nothing at all against (most of) Mozart’s music. He’s on this list not because I think he was a bad composer, but because I think his music has been put on a pedestal and elevated to a level that it doesn’t quite deserve. In terms of music in the Viennese classical tradition, I much prefer Haydn, and if you want operatic brilliance, I think you’re better going with Puccini. To reiterate, Mozart is just fine, but I don’t think he should be ranked as one of the all-time greats.
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>>82011842
>and if you want operatic brilliance, I think you’re better going with Puccini
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>>82011842
>start calling me names
Fuck you plebian scum.
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>>82011842
All I see is an opinion of some literal who.
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Fast Scriabros! I need the BEST recordings of Poeme de l'Éxtase y Promethée
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>>82012448
Mravinsky - Poem
Ugorski, Boulez - Prometheus
or get them both by Gergiev and the Kirov orchestra
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>>82008323
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2NzQUPmwjc
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>oh man I like every genre honestly
What does this mean for classical? Do they like everything from baroque to romantic? Medieval? Renaissance too?
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>>82013178
That means thy like from the gutural sounds of a baby to the farts of Steve Reich
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Thoughts on Nikolai Medtner??
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Who was Wagner but better?
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>>82013366
Liszt
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>>82013366
Mahler? less showy and more introspective but in terms of sound id say it's pretty accurate
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What's the general consensus on Bruckner?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asJf3KmAg08
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>>82013422
it's good
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who's your favorite chamber composer?
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>>82013592
dvorak probably, but chamber is a pretty ambiguous term
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Anyone else have a tough time enjoying Dvorak's 9th because so many others in so many different forms of music have taken some aspect or another from it?
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>>82013414
>less showy and more introspective
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>>82013414
Mahler is bombastic shitty composer as deep as glass of water
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>>82013414
>Mahler
>less showy than Wagner
>more introspective than Wagner
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>>82014864
Yes just like Wagner.

>>82014194
No not really, in fact I will listen to it right now, thanks.
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>>82014899
Late Wagner is much more introspective than Mahler could ever hope to be.
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Who's the most introspective composer
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>>82014921
He literally masturbated with catholic mysticism, that's not deep faggot
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>>82014939
Well then I guess Mahler was good huh
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>>82014938
schoenberg
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>>82014970
Serious replies pls
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>>82014970
but Twelve tone noise isn't even music
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>>82014996
what is your definition of music
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>>82015021
Sounds you can hear without pain
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>>82013366
I'd have to go with John Zorn, unironically
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>>82015021
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_practice_period
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>>82015040
You said "unironically" so I'm not taking your post seriously ok thanks

Anyone else?
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>>82015066
Brahms
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>>82015038
so if someone listens to 12 tone and doesn't experience pain, it is music?
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>>82010999
>transcriptions
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>>82015077
>le teuton chamber man
fucking trash
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>>82015081
Life is pain, does it makes life music?
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>>82015066
Trey Spruance
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>>82015097
Maybe you are the fucking thrash here, you stupid pseudpatrician
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>>82015081
No one does.
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>>82014938
Dowland maybe, original emo.
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>>82015077
Where do I start with him?
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>>82015081
No, he would be already brain dead
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>>82015146
Yeah but I heard Shakespeare didn't like him so I feel bad when I enjoy it.
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>>82015113
chill out brah
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>>82015154
Symphony No.1 in C minor and the deutch requiem
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>>82014938
Gesualdo
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>>82015173
Chilling is for retards.
>>82015180
I didn't like his Requiem, am I a lost cause?
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>>82015216
Cool your autism
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>>82015216
>am I a lost cause?
So it seems
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>>82015223
You fucking autistphobe
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>>82015154
Better start with Petzold
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>>82015223
Fuck off.
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>>82015216
>am I a lost cause?
Yes, really yes. You can always try with the alto rhapsody or some of his shorter choral works but if you don't like those I suggest you go away and rethink your life.
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>>82015377
His Requiem fucking bored me. I only enjoyed the the baritone's parts. And I saw it live.
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>>82015249
>>82015300
>the state of Brahms fags
You should listen to chad composers like Bach, Beethoven and Scriabin, you might even impress some girl to actually sleep with you
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>>82015466
Fake and gay
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>>82015515
you obviously didn't check em
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>>82015457
Good orchestra? Easily my favourite requiem or mass but I am sure some suck the life out of it. Try Lehmann, Gardiner's 1st, Kempe, Jarvi, [spoiler]Karajan's 1st[/spoiler]. All of them until you damn well like it.
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>>82015557
Whoa dude, you should chii out, it's just a requiem
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>>82015557
Will try
>>82015607
Requiems are the best
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Define Beethoven with one word
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>>82015791
One-hit
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>>82015791
Autism
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>>82015791
Deaf
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>>82015791
Bad
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>>81994521
Bach’s Well Tempered Clavire is THE pinacle of classical music (it’s baroque i know). My fav is prelude in D major (850). Fucking genius, note picking pattern keeps same, just scale changes and he fucking wrote the great piece of music out of this.
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>>82015907
Triggered
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>>82015791
Petzold
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>>82015791
Mozart-wannabe
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In the spotlight - Fifth edition (Chamber works) (1/3)

Hello again to everybody in this edition of /classical/. Today I want to talk about two chamber works.

Juan Crisóstomo de Arriaga: String Quartet No.1 in D minor
Gustav Mahler: Piano Quartet in A minor

Juan Crisóstomo Jacobo Antonio de Arriaga y Balzola (Yes, that was his complete name) more known as simply Arriaga, was one of the most famous spanish classical composers. He was born with extraordinary abilities for music, not in vain is known as the "Spanish Mozart" (they share both the day of birth: 27 january, and the name).

He composed his first work, an octet, with nine years old. He travelled to Paris from Bilbao for expanding his musical knowledges. But unfortunatelly fell ill and died in 1826, with nineteen years old. His best works are a Symphony in D minor/major, three string quartets, the overture pastourelle and the dramatic vocal scene Agar at the desert.

His style is inherited by the most classics: Haydn and Mozart, although we began to find a slight air to Schubert and the early Beethoven in his later works, although Arriaga certainly never heard them in Spain or France.

Arriaga's three String Quartets (No.1 in D minor, No.2 in A major and No.3 in E flat major) were composed in 1823 in Paris, when he had sixteen years old. The firs one is seen as the most complex and his best one.

Now, let's hear it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4TZZT7CfyM

The first movement, in sonata form, begins with a melancholic first theme in D minor, presented by the first violin. In the development, the main theme evolves from the classical elegance to a nearly romantic pathos, despite the fact that classical serenity predominates. A second lively theme appears in major key, with a more Mediterranean color. The recapitulation happens, repeating both themes in D minor. A brilliant coda ends this movement.
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In the spotlight - Fifth edition (Chamber works) (2/3)

The second movement is a very serene Adagio that develops calmly but with expression. In the central part it has some more dynamism and drama. As always, the role of the violin is decisive, that its function reminds the brilliant quartets of the time, usually for a solo violin accompanied by the rest of the quartet. After returning to the first part of the Adagio, a soft and optimistic coda ends this part.

The third movement is a brief Menuetto, in a minor tone and abrupt rhythmic changes. The trio is lively and agitated, developed by the violin with the pizzicatos of the rest of the instruments. The initial Menuetto repeats itself with hardly any differences.

The fourth movement, also in sonata form, begins with a slow introduction, with strange questions of the cello and after the viola. After which appears a rhythmic and bright first theme that becomes faster in the development. The introduction reappears in the central part, but this time with a more tragic air. The first theme returns with a more romantic spirit. In the coda, the work ends with the melancholy with which it had begun.

An interesting work, without doubt one of his most dramatic and romantic works. Arriaga would have been a classic in the history of music had it not been for his very early death.

Now let's get with the second work

Mahler is probably one of the best known post-romantic composers, along with Strauss (which does not mean it is bad), his style being relatively accessible to the general public. Its body of works is quite scarce, emphasizing its symphonies and its cycles of songs.

However, there is a young Mahler of whom we know almost nothing, a Mahler who delighted in Wagner and dealt personally with Bruckner, as well as being fascinated with poetry and philosophy, and the union of both: Nietzsche.
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In the spotlight - Fifth edition (Chamber works) (3/3)

Of this young Mahler there is left almost nothing, it is assumed that at that time he composed two complete symphonies, several chamber works and some attempts of operas. Works that were mostly destroyed by Mahler himself and his deadly perfectionism.

One of the few works that survived was this movement in A minor for piano quartet. Written in 1875, when he was 16 years old and was studying at the conservatory. The work is structured in a sonata form with three themes. This strange shape anticipates, in a way, the great Mahlerian structures of Sonata-Rondo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtktswl3rNQ

It begins with a brief introduction of the piano, which plays softly, anticipating the dramatic mood. The violin presents a desolate first theme, developed with a certain contrast, predominating a lyrical drama before a complete repetition of the theme.

A second theme arises, also in A minor, of a more dynamic but equally tragic energy, the third theme is slow, more static. The third theme is characterized by its modulations, although sincerely many people would already be bored at this point for the lack of contrasts of the first two themes. A lírical violin cadenza anticipates the end. The movement ends in a very austere way.

Certainly not the best eleven minutes of mahler, I can speak frankly of his defects (his strange form, the lack of contrast, etc). Despite all this and that I do not recommend this work directly, I find it interesting for anyone who is willing to explore the early Mahler.
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Picinini

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5oWCZZTCv4
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For me? It's Ton Koopman
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Mahler sucks cock.
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>>82017592
>>82017619
>>82017645
Thank you my friend
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>>82015172
source?
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>>82019215
that was really good, piccinini was amazing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpGPrkiUeKo
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>>82021011
:D
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>>82013592
haydn
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Why doesn't Mass In B Minor get the love Bach's keyboard stuff does or his cantatas or the Brandenburgs do? It's essentially the fugal polyphonic aspects of much of the keyboard stuff, the vocal layering of his cantatas, and the orchestration style on Brandenburg all put in one then taken to the next level.
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Scriabin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALOko0VRCqk
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>>82023381
It's too grand to enjoy widespread popularity. Same case as with Matthäuspassion, Wagner or even Missa Solemnis.
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Lol, heard a funny pronunciation of Dvorak today on the radio, think I've heard it before, wasn't sure it was even Dvorak they were talking about. Then I googled the pronunciation and it seems to me like the "r" has a very special sound almost like it's two sounds AT ONCE, like the sound for "s" in measure at the same time as the "r" sound, perhaps outlasting the "r" sound a little. Probably something special for the Czech language. But it kind of annoys me how people put an "sh" sound or otherwise after the r when it doesn't even sound like the natives at all anyway, then you could just pronounce it like a regular "r"? People don't pronounce other words and names from other languages exactly like the natives, or even try to, so why this? How do you pronounce Dvorak?
Here native Czechs pronouncing it:
https://forvo.com/word/anton%C3%ADn_dvo%C5%99%C3%A1k/
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>>82011842
>Listen to Haydn
But what if I like tunes?

I don't think Mozzie is elevated beyond his level. He still connects with even casual listeners now, its a knack and he has it. In other terms, he worked extremely hard and had an interest in musicology that wasn't especially common, so he was doing things other people didn't do. Late string quartets especially. When you combine that with the full spectrum dominance across every form, I don't think you can just say he was of his time.

I do get where he is coming from, the Amadeus thing is a crock of shit and its also true if you buy one of those massive collected works sets you realise he wrote a massive amount of crap that he didn't care about and people weren't interested in listening to much either (wallpaper music for parties) that is just a genre exercise. But then again, he was a commercial working musician who liked money. None the less though.
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petzold
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>>82015040
Post some good Zorn
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What is your favorite work by a black composer.
You aren't a filthy racist, are you?
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>>82027234
Beethoven's op. 111
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Thoughts on Karajan? Why is he so famous?
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>>82015791
Economy


(of material)
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Bump
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rank em'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PdnM02UB1c

5 > 2 > 3 > 1 > 4
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>>82029619
2 > 3 > 1 > 5 > 4
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>>82025027
its duh-vor-zjock

(zj = the s sound in lesion)
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>>82029687
No, its duh-vo-jack
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Any good pure orchestral stuff?
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>>82029988
its like going into bleep and asking "any good pure electronic stuff", or going into metal and asking "any good pure band stuff" or going into kpop and asking "any good pure kpop stuff"?

Yes. There is a lot. we could recommend you some random piece but we probably won't because your question is very broad.

Have this for your trouble:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJi_rb9D8I4
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>>82027849
He’s good
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Y'all ever heard of Zaytoven?
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>>82030309
Yep, he's the nigger who works with gucci mane
From Gucci’s autobiography:
>When I signed my first recording contract I couldn’t even tell you what a Jewish person looked like or believed in. I was ignorant and I admit that. It wasn’t until Ice [Ice T aka Tracy Marrow] pointed out that most of the guys in the meetings where we planned promotional campaigns, music videos and so on were Jewish that I started to wonder why that was. I gotta admit that kind of thing can make you paranoid, because now every white guy in a suit who reaches his hand out to me look like the kinda nigga who about to take a cut of the profits or ask me to act more “gangster” in my videos.
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>>82029988
Styles, composers, periods? Be more descriptive
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Schoenberg sucks cock.
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>>82030519
Schoen(((berg)))
Alban (((Berg)))
Anton (((Webern)))
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>>82027849
He made everything sound pretty (even when it didn't need to) so brainlets like him. He's not bad though just overrated.
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>>82030570
Berg's not Jewish, nor is Webern
>As early as 1933, an Austrian gauleiter on Bayerischer Rundfunk mistakenly and very likely maliciously characterized both Berg and Webern as Jewish composers
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>>82030701
They had jewish surnames
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>>82030769
Where did Jewish surnames come from? Many were German surnames, sometimes the names of places where the head Rabbi of their local area lived. Berg is mountain for instance. Many Scandinavian surnames similarly can be mistaken for "Jewish surnames." Look at Mitch Hedberg (not Jewish).
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>>82030901
Nice try (((Mitch))) (((Hed)))(((berg)))!
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Paisiello is the most underrated composer of all times.
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What do I do if I hate the hissing in older recordings
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>>82031366
remaster them yourself
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>>82031379
How.
Teach me how to became a true ascended classicalfag and remaster Furtwangler into high quality stereo
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>>82031507
i don't know how because the hissing doesn't bother me, it enlarges my brain because i know i am listening to a patrician recording
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>>82031550
But the composer didn't want that.
>>82021870
Can't find it, sorry. Also it was just speculation because of some obscure reference somewhere in a play that could be mocking Dowland for being an emo.
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>>82031366
Don't worry about it, the majority of older recordings are way overrated by wrong generationists. The majority of works have an equally good, if not far better, modern recording. Only the kind of idiot that calls themselves patrician will disagree.
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>>82031836
Not for opera.
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>>82031846
this
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Wagner

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKvoeXfFODQ
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>>82033035
Fagner
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Thoughts on Mozart's symphonies 1 to 24?
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>>82033094
Thrash
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>>82033118
Thrash as in Thrash metal?!
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>>82033186
No, trash because they are completely generic and forgettable
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>>82033226
HOW YOU DARE SIR, HOW YOU DARE
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best edition of bruckner's 8?
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>>82033094
"Yawn"
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>>82031233
What would you recommend
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>>82035846
Piano concerti.
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Opera was a mistake.
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>>82013592
Brahms
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>>82030680
HvK is fucking appalling and should have been strung up by the Russians and his corpse fed to dogs after they entered Berlin.
"Pretty" isn't the right word is it, those horrible smooth Berlin strings and overblown massive orchestras make me break out in hives. Lots of people debate just how enthusiastic his Nazism was, I say listen to the music, he was a true believer and a massive cunt, the fascist aesthetic is in every bar. HIP is basically a reaction to him on a personal basis and music always sounds better for it.
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>>81995328
It is truly a testament of Mozart's greatness that he can be both the most patrician composer (if not artist) of all time and that simultaneously.
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>>82038524
>smooth Berlin strings and overblown massive orchestras make me break out in hives.
Okay Sol Rosenberg. Settle down and have some dip.
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>>82010013
>linking jass in /classical/
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>>82013414
>Mahler
>less showy and more introspective
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>>82015791
Peat
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>>82017592
>composer is spanish
>music has bouncy, swung niggerish rhythm
Never fails.
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>>82031507
>true ascended classicalfag
>actually LISTENING to music
dohohohoho
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>>82037455
Surprising good. Thanks senpai.
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>>82031366
you are the best filter. it's easy to ignore.
>>82031507
remastering into stereo isn't possible, sorry. if you really want to mess around with things yourself, look into iZotope and learn how to do subtle spectral denoising/repair/de-clicking/de-crackling/etc.
>>82031836
honestly this is always a bad comparison because there's simply just a breadth of difference in terms of performance styles between the generations, and some traditions are frankly dead. if you want a classic viennese performance style then you simply cannot do anything but listen to older recordings. if you want actually good Germanic opera singing, you have to listen to older recordings. there are plenty of great conductors and great recordings made these days, but they're great in the context of their modern styles. it's just different.
>>82033636
Haas (this triggers the musicologist)
>>82038524
i don't really know if i would characterize chocolate Beethoven as facist aesthetic. Kabasta was a million times more the Nazi than Karajan was and is quite the opposite of "smooth."

Karajan is good in certain repertoire (i.e. romantics and after) but it is indeed true that the smooth, rhythmically uninteresting homogeneity with which he approaches Beethoven and Mozart is cancer on the ears.
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honestly the worst part about Karajan isn't even his approach to performances, but the god-awful quality of DG recordings which he was behind. it was acceptable in the 60s, but by the 70s he had replaced a few key components of his engineering team and had become increasingly more involved with the production process himself and it is, frankly, terrible.

i still cringe at certain parts of his Ring cycle where you can hear them cycle through at least 6-7 different takes over the course of a few bars because the editing was just *that* bad. christ.
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>>82039561
I always remember there was someone who worked with him who said that he didn't know as much about recording practices as he liked to think he did.
Also like the aspect of his Ring cycle where you can hear them cycle through at least 6-7 different performers for the same role.
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>>82039561
Or the infamous syncing of video recordings with re-recorded sound.
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>Der Ring des Nibelungen by Hartmut Haenchen
Is this good?
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Sleeping Beauty > Swan Lake > Nutcracker
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>>82040993
why are you posting about disney movies
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>>82040323
pretty good conducting, with an especially interesting booklet that goes into details regarding the first performances of the Ring, but, man, the cast is pretty weak.
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>>82041068
>interesting booklet that goes into details regarding the first performances of the Ring
Man, I want that.
Is there anything in that that I don't get in Rehearsing the Ring?
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>>82041105
most of it goes over the rehearsals and how out-of-sorts modern performance styles are with Wagner's intentions, specifically in regards to tempo. but there are also some other interesting tidbits like timings of some of the earliest Bayreuth performers, and a few other things like that. most likely stuff you don't already know, but it's always nice to have another perspective. incidentally, Haenchen's favorite Wagner recordings are all from the Potted Ring set.
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>>82041186
>most likely stuff you don't already know
rather,
*most likely stuff you already know
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>>82041186
>Haenchen's favorite Wagner recordings are all from the Potted Ring set.
I see this is the thinking man's conductor then.
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>>82041212
he's a smart dude. he also realizes how shit-tier Bayreuth is for anything that isn't Parsifal.

unfortunately he's also cursed with bad casting. i've seen something like 3 of his broadcasts over the years and they have all had pretty mediocre casts. it's not the absolute worst or anything, just pretty dull. they do have a few gimmicks in the recording that make it interesting, though. like, for instance, the bird is sung by a boy-soprano. they use a recreated tool for Fafner's voice that Wagner specified himself (kinda sounds a bit too "distant" but still interesting) and there are numerous cases of little touches in the orchestration that you'll notice as different thanks to the new edition. it's worth hearing overall, but just prepared for contrasts of, "Oh, nice" and "Oh, no" that happen very often. the Hagen in particular is fucking shit. he cursed Kegel's otherwise very good Missa Solemnis as well.
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>>81998112
Wait, are those Youtube playlists playing inside foobar?
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>>82041351
How bad is he? Is he weak?
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>>82041709
weak, wobbly, and shitty diction
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>>82041186
>>82041212
>>82041351
That's why Boulez cycle should be the obligatory entry-level Ring for everyone. Perhaps Böhm.
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>>82042075
Boulez is too weak and not trying to go for Wagner's intentions in particular though, he just wants to go against the established idea of Wagner. If the composer would happen to agree with him or not is none of his concern.
Also the audio is flat and boring.
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>>82041691
Yup. Nifty isn't it? Basically makes YT my own music server.
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I don't know much about classical and all that stuff but I really like Vivaldi's La Folia
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>>82042104
Still better than drooling in Knapp's and in hissy sound at that, methinks.
What's your recommended set faithful to Wagner?
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>>82042154
I like Sawallisch a lot.
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>>82029687
You didn't read my post. Yeah I hear people pronounce it that way, but then when you listen to native Czechs pronouncing it you hear it's actually different, they're making that "zj" sound AND the r sound simultaneously, not the r sound and then the "zj" sound afterwards. Therefore I think it's just silly to pronounce it that way. As I said, there are tons of names and words you don't say like the natives so why halfass it like this? You don't pronounce Paris with a silent s.
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>>82042167
Thanks. I'll give it a listen.
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>>82039436
>Haas (this triggers the musicologist)

thanks
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>>82042238
The audio is also somewhat flat and leaves me wishing it was better recorded, but overall I like it.
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>>82042075
i think i agree overall, if only because the other DVD options are pretty bad. unfortunately it wasn't really recorded with anything other than TV in mind, so, yeah, the audio staging is weak.

>>82042154
i still think that in terms of overall consistency, audio quality, and artistic quality that Janowski's first set is pretty up there, but the painful truth is that there is simply no perfect performance and we are long past the point of ever achieving the perfect performance.

there are parts of me that listen to old MET recordings (specifically during the Leinsdorf seasons) that make me think, "yes, this is likely as close as you can get overall" since those absolutely nail the theatrics, the thrust, and the singing -- but, admittedly, (besides the very strong strings) is a bit lacking in the orchestral department -- however, that's just my feelings based on his Die Walkure. who knows if the other parts went so well? then you have conductors like Kleiber Sr. or Beecham who seem absolutely perfect for Wagner but are horribly recorded to the point where it's nigh unlistenable. maybe there was potential for a perfect performance 70-100 years ago, but certainly not in the modern-era and i don't think that's likely to change any time soon.
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>>82042248
Rosbaud's a bit weird in Bruckner in my opinion, but as far as his stuff goes the 8th in that set is probably one of the more unique ones
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>>82042214
Slav here. You're right. It's just Dvo - r - ak, with short o, r pronounced like the French 'J' in 'bon jour'. Very simple.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9q13ialA0gU
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>>82042214
>You don't pronounce Paris with a silent s.
yes you do lmfao its pah-ree
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>>82042315
>Janowski
Not with Theo Adam it ain't.
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>>82042406
Fucking dumbass, didn't watch your video, I already posted a link to Czechs pronouncing Dvorak and no it's not like "s" in measure, it's that sound and an "r" sound simultaneously.
https://forvo.com/word/anton%C3%ADn_dvo%C5%99%C3%A1k/
>>82042520
I meant if you speak English you don't pronounce it like the French, fucking retard.
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>>82042705
why are you so buttmad my guy.
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>>82042406
>says I'm right
>then says it's something I didn't say
fucking dumb
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imagine getting so upset over the pronunciation of a composers name that you curse out people in multiple posts on the internet
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>>82042761
Imagine being so stupid you get the name wrong repeatedly even after saying "you're right" and post this to damage control
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>>82042894 this is the only post by me >>82029687

nice try
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>>82042972
Ooooof course it is.
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gene phil ramoo - platey
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0o0YSdtt1c
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Wagner sucks cock.
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>>82043581
spotted the shitskin, go back to your shithole country
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>>82043581
based and redpilled

>>82043657
cringe but redpilled
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>>82042705
>>82042730
>misses the irony
>0 language skills
>butthurt beyond comprehension
>clearly an amerifag
Go listen to 4'33, you absolute cvoku.
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this aint classical but could someone figure out the chord progression of this song? i know there used to be /comp/ a while back but guess it died out.
https://youtu.be/9hx6zpDM8is?t=321

around the 5:20 mark
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>>82042121
I like Corelli's La Follia more.
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>>82042121
Scarlatti

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InZ_4CAcE78
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>>82042114
>all those fucking tabs
What are you doing
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>>82046615
Scarlatti or Scriabin?
Pick 1
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>>82013366
Richard Strauss

Wagner never wrote anything as beautiful as the 4 last songs.
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>>82045455
He used to sell handwritten tab books at his shows but I guess they stopped. I told him through email I'd personally pay for one of CotE but he said he wasn't able to.
This might help though, don't know how accurate it is:
https://chordu.com/chords-tabs-kayo-dot-marathon-2-of-2-live-at-drom--id_5kLOjZ7CQ2o
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>>82048463
thanks for the cool site, is it auto generating the chords from what it hears? never knew thatd finally be a thing.
thats pretty interesting to hear they made tab books, theres alot i feel they kinda stopped. they just dont have that magic that they used to have nowadays, whatever they're/he's doing.
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any recommendations for an ADHD fag?
Things along the lines of this, energetic and aggressive in general.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAiEPUu0iO4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1-TrAvp_xs
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>>82049454
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKJur8wpfYM wrong link, sorry.
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>>82049454
Shostakovich
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Faure is underrated and has been unfairly sidelined by history.
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>>82048332
>"I may not be a first-rate composer, but I am a first-class second-rate composer." - Richard Strauss

Wagner must be utter dogshit then... Sounds about right.
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>>82050100
nah Strauss was just humble. By about 30 he was a first rate composer.
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>>82049454
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4YoqCUe6i4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtVgWzXGvj4
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>>81997527
lol
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>>81999882
Bernstein already had his own TV program in the 50s and was considered important before then. Boomer core would be the minimalist garbage.
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>>82003252
Pretty amazing that a tranny managed to live to such an age without suicide or their vagina being destroyed too.
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>>82008323
Aria isn't even the best variation. It's the second from last one.
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>>82010013
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTB8Q5U9SwA
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https://youtu.be/Qs4bQa-s1TA

Rate my orchestral soundtrack
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>>82013366
>>82013390
>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IywXC0KsEWQ
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Reminder the Holy Roman Empire was Holy, Roman and an Empire
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>>82015283
lol
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>>82051544
Joke's on him, Voltaire died fairly comfortably at a ripe old age, not like a dog at all. Whereas Mozart, didn't do so well.
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>>82029687
No, it's Duhr-vorjzhh-yak
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>>82030769
By your logic many of the ranking Nazis were Jewish too.
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>>82051615
I thought it was Da Wojak
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>>82010013
i like this anon, give me more pls
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>>82029687
>a becomes an o
Found the Yank
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>>82051599
desu better to live one day as mozart than a thousand years as that gossipy french degenerate just so I could get my little austrian fingers on constances mammies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8Lsr0-L7ZU
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>>82051687
>gossipy...degenerate
Not sure how you can post Mozart and call others gossipy or degenerate. Voltaire wasn't the one with the shit fetish.
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>>82051734
Mozart was a good Christian boy he didn't do nothing wrong
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Gounod
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88TBUcuyDdM
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Hey /mu/, I'm interested in checking out some Mozart preferably some mighty symphonies or anything with oboe. What pieces should I start with.

Contributing with something from Franz Schubert that I listen to a lot:
>Schubert - 4 Impromptus, D. 899 / Op. 90
https://youtu.be/QDVJkxGz_Tc
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Petzold here
AMA
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>>82051646
It's Duh-voh-rahk
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what's a fast way for a newfag to find out which recording is the best for a given piece?
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>>82054261
/classical/
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>>82054261
Amazon reviews and sampling.
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>>82054261
https://www.prestoclassical.co.uk/classical/awards
These awards will give you some idea of the most popular ones. You'll rarely find universal agreement though.
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>>82054402
>july 2018 building a library choices
>all Mozart's Don Giovanni
Based and redpilled
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>>81995328
>mfw these are all some of my favorite pieces by Mozart
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>>82054511
More like based and Mozartpilled
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>>82052417
For symphonies, start at his last, 41 "Jupiter" and work back. Try his oboe concerto. He also has bassoon, horn, flute and clarinet concertos and his concerto for flute and harp (K. 299) is considered one of his greatest works.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atfKC9RDsR0




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