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DON'T POST Soundcloud, YouTube, or any other links where you are not anonymous (unless somebody asks you for it). That's considered self promotion and will result in bad feedback.

GIVE feedback and RECEIVE feedback. Upload WIPs on https://clyp.it/

>RESOURCES:
Sound Design:
>SeamlessR (in-depth music production and sound design tutorials, based on FL Studio)
https://www.youtube.com/user/SeamlessR
>Rocket Powered Sound (Constant quality uploads of various EDM sounds in Serum with explanations that help make something unique)
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFReVt5TAC1zGnuNkgHw-fg
>Syntorial (widely considered the best place to go to learn synthesis)
https://www.syntorial.com/
>Mr. Bill (Ableton based Sound Design)
https://www.youtube.com/user/MrBillsTunes
>Sadowick (explains old school electronic music in very elaborate ways in Ableton)
https://www.youtube.com/user/SadowickProduction
>ADSR Music Production Tutorials
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCf5UKh_cj2_5pUomhyswWYQ

MIXING:
>David Gibson - The Art of Mixing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEjOdqZFvhY [Embed] [Embed] [Embed]
>Point Blank Music School
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIWNozFjO8yVdJFsGKVmPgg
>Pensado's Place
https://www.youtube.com/user/PensadosPlace
>Samori Coles (Compression, EQ, etc)
https://www.youtube.com/user/homestudiotutor/videos
>Modern Mixing
https://www.youtube.com/user/ModernMixing/videos

FL STUDIO:
>WarBeats (Getting comfortable in FL Studio)
https://www.youtube.com/user/nfxbeats/videos
>Image Line Tutorials
https://www.youtube.com/user/imageline/playlists

WRITING:
>12tone
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTUtqcDkzw7bisadh6AOx5w/playlists
>Micheal New
https://www.youtube.com/user/Rhaptapsody/playlists
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>this picture
everybody knows that girls can't......... TURN KNOBS. Ridiculous!
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>>83885728
thats my wife
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>>83885781
you're only allowed to larp in /prod/ if it's funny anon
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>>83885830
thats my wife and also im a clown
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First for hardware
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https://clyp.it/hvf3spvs

pls tell me my mixing is good
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>>83886926
the fooking kick drum is too loud isn't it
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what's a good way to recreate the choir voice from this track?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WShknpNpHbY
Is there a specific VST or choir instrument/sample that anyone could recommend?
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Why'd you remove your thing life story guy?
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>>83886959
>th' fookin kick drooms t' laud innit
Commit to your bit friendo.

>>83886926
Sounds good, wish the vocals were louder in relation to the bass.
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>>83887072
What? Who?
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>>83887114
>Sounds good, wish the vocals were louder in relation to the bass.

'preciate it i'll get on that
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https://clyp.it/kyq2ko0m

any feedback on this?
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>>83885560
Is that another one of those pictures where the woman in it looks good but she doesn’t know shit about what she’s doing?
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>>83887252
just be happy it's not grimes m8
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Maybe a bit off the specific topic but can somebody help me out? If you check the link I'm wondering how do you create that background effect on the guitar sample? Is it just a guitar pitcher? Sorry if this is obvious I'm a noobie. https://youtu.be/8Mwv4PrpnkM?t=17723
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>>83887261
I am happy about that for many reasons

Just Googled the image and she seems established. I feel relieved and pleasantly surprised
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>>83887299
>>83887252
>grammy award winning
>yeah, she seems established i guess
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I'm working on this track currently if anyone wants to check it out and feedback the mix and writing:

https://clyp.it/1xqrm4me

>pop/prog/rock/metal/mellow/happy/djent
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>>83887051
a lot of sample vsts. nexus, omnisphere, even some small time free ones could get you something in that ballpark
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>>83887347
why do you hate women anon
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im a semi-newbie https://clyp.it/iesalqii
how do i make better melodies
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Is it hard to switch from Reaper to FL studio after using it for 10+ years? I think it might be better suited for my music at this point.
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>>83889938
if you're switching then why not go to something like ableton?
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>>83890050
He's the kind of retard who's used Reaper for 10 years.
I don't expect him to make good decisions.
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>>83890102
Do you actually have an argument against Reaper or are you just parroting? Name a better DAW for the price.
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>>83890142
Ableton
https://audioz.download/software/win/148613-download_ableton-live-suite-v1005-incl-patched-and-keygen-win-osx-r2r.html
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>>83890217
Reaper cost me 20 euros all those years ago. Ableton costs 20 times that amount. Anyone serious would buy a DAW instead of pirating it.
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>>83890304
>Anyone serious would buy a DAW instead of pirating it
According to a guy who's been using Reaper for 10 years lmao.
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>>83890359
So what's wrong with it mr professional who pirates their stuff?
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>>83890304
>Anyone serious -that makes enough money from it to not make the purchase hurt- would buy a DAW instead of pirating it
FTFY
If you're serious about music and have trouble spending the money to have the best tools, it doesn't make sense to choose an inferior tool just to not pirate the better one.

Do you care more about your music or about conforming to your idea of being a serious musician?
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>>83890404
I don't have enough work to justify the expenses. I occasionally do stuff for my friends indie films but it really is a side job. I still wouldn't want to use a pirated software for that.
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>>83890383
Nothing wrong with it.
It's just that there are better DAWs out there that's worth switching to, like FL Studio as you said above.
Staying with Reaper as your main DAW precludes you from using the best ones available.
Especially considering that once you switch to something else, you can still use Reaper alongside it, so it's not an either-or scenario, but a choice between just Reaper and Reaper PLUS something else.
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https://clyp.it/1znzaht4


hoping this works the way i intended :^I
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>>83890438
>I don't have enough work to justify the expenses. I occasionally do stuff for my friends indie films but it really is a side job.
Then you should pirate it and take advantage of the opportunity to improve much faster for no money, until you can afford it, and buy it with your newly-earned money.
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>>83890440
>https://clyp.it/1znzaht4
how did you intend
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I know you all jelly my unique Brazilian voice. I can sing from A#1 to A#4. That's right, 3 octave range. Big dick baritone. And that's because I didn't learn to expand the high range yet,
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Someone posted this in the last thread (>>83882112):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQmzhE7GLgE

It's the most pointless autistic shit that has no use other than to make yourself look knowledgeable.
Do professional producers really do this kind of overkill shit?
Will I have to learn this circlejerk shit if I don't want to look like a noob?
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>>83890574
>It's the most pointless autistic shit
I see you're new around here
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>>83890463
basically wanted the start to be a smack in the face to the listener, but still aesthetically lofi and repetitive
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>>83890574
if you think that's autistic this isn't for you
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>>83890765
Both the guy in the video (successful producer and instructor) and the guy who posted it yesterday agree with me, so it's 3 against one.
Maybe you're the autist who's not cut for being a musician.
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>>83890780
Fuck off Zen, we know it's you.
Your tutorials are babby garbage, you're unfunny and cringy, and nobody likes you around here.
Please stop posting immediately.
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>>83890780
>Maybe you're the autist who's not cut for being a musician.
>musician who can't into mixing in this day and age
Good luck with that,
Not to burst your bubble but they're trying to be normie friendly. when you spend 5000 dollars on analog compressors we're talking autistic. But you're a long way from your nexus presets to that so don't worry
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>>83890815
What's wrong with Nexus?
All the most successful producers use it.
The only ones against it are nerds on forums, salty that their pointless autistic obsessions didn't make them famous while the actual musicians who focus on what's important get all the money, fame, and pussy.
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Perhaps you can suggest me a hardware daw that's more MIDI-oriented, and allows recording and editing of MIDI tracks?
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>>83890840
ur average prod retard will start foaming at the mouth if u even mention the idea of presets
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>>83890840
>All the most successful producers use it.
that will make you successful too!
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>>83890892
Not wasting time on what could be achieved faster and better with the help of people much more knowledgeable than me will certainly get me closer to being successful than jerking off with stupid shit like sound design.
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>>83890940
so your Goal is basically to sound like exactly everyone else and get all the money fame and pussy without putting the work in and actually liking your art?
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>>83891251
Precisely.
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>>83891266
kys :)
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>>83890681
lo fi doesn't always have to be muddy
make the sounds more clearer and make the drop louder but pay attention to the dynamics
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>>83891310
t. incel seething for all the pussy we at Spinnin records get while he wastes his time with multiband shit.
I may sound like every other successful producer but you sound like every amateur loser thinking he's talented because he learned some useless shit on youtube.
You're even less unique than me.
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>>83891355
quit larping and end yourself already.
>pro tip: you don't need fame or money to get pussy. literally talk to girls you autistic faggot
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>>83890574
I mean you won't need this as a beginner but the more advanced you get, the more you want to refine your sound so it's good to have these tricks in your pocket
also a professional would just get Dynamic EQ by Waves which does the same shit just simpler
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>>83891379
C O P E
O
P
E
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>>83891379
>pro-tip: it's a matter of quantity and quality
If you're rich and famous you can just scroll Instagram like a catalog and choose from it.
Your "underground producer" ass can only get trashy DRUNK bar sluts and meth addicts.
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>>83891425
>>83891439
>making lame ass music just to get laid by vapid club girls
>investing whole identity into girls who don't give a shit about you
can you get any more beta?

/prod/ everyone
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>>83891530
imagine actually doing music for women and not for yourself
if u want to get laid just re roll and hope for a better face.
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>>83891530
>MOING THE GOALPOST THIS MUCH
I said I'd get success, money, fame, AND pussy, and you started focussing on just the pussy as if it was the only advantage of being successful.
I'm gonna fly private jets to all the best locations in the world, eat the best food for the rest of my life, live in a huge mansion, drive nice cars, and generally experience the best that life can offer.
Pussy is just one of the many perks.
Meanwhile you'll cry yourself to sleep thinking "at least I know how to multiband sidechain".

>>making lame ass music
Like your music isn't even lamer than mine lol

>vapid club girls
Like that matters AT ALL for one night stands lol
I'm not fucking their personality.

>investing whole identity into girls who don't give a shit about you
>implying
Also
>investing your whole identity into mixing tricks that nobody gives a shit about except you.
can you get any more beta?

/prod/ everyone
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>>83891632
post music
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The virgin bleep vs the Chad Banger
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>>83891700
damn holy shit that nibba on the left ugly af
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>>83891632
not gonna lie these are some pretty good points desu
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>>83891632
all sex outside of marriage is degenerate and harmful

tell your friends
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>>83891695
You post yours faggot

I'm not gonna play your stupid game.
I know that regardless of what I post you're gonna shit on it with dumb excuses like "you didn't make this" or "it's generic".
Your ad hominem attempt is sad and pathetic.
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>>83891632
the best life can offer is relationships with people who actually care for you. The shit you listed is just vanity and excess, that'll get tired of very quickly, and comes with the side-effect of being surrounded by vapid people trying to get something out of you, in a way that makes it harder for you to actually meet decent friends and significant others.
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>>83891632
(You)
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>>83891775
i'm not that dude

i'm genuinely curious to hear what your bangers sound like if you're incapable of multiband compression

it's obviously possible it's just hard to imagine
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>>83891778
Typical black-white thinking, typical of people on the spectrum.

If I get tired of that life I can always just stop and retire.
EDM isn't so big that people will actively think about me after 5 years, so I'd get forgotten quickly and will be able to start a fulfilling normal life, knowing that I got to experience everything that everyone only wishes in their wildest dreams, and with the comfort of having millions of dollars as a safety net.
I can have the cake and eat it too if I so choose.

On the other hand, your nerdy bullshit will only get you relationships with other losers like you, who will all hate you because your failure at achieving success will make you jaded and insufferable, just like all the nerds working at Guitar Center who used to think like you.

You're also forgetting that I can be friends with other successful people like me who are on my same level and don't want anything from me.
It's not like all my friends will be my employees or something.

There's more to life than making unique music.
The only people who disagree are stupid autists who don't get that you can make generic poppy shit to make money, then have your whole life to make whatever kind of experimental music you want to make in your free time while being a millionaire.
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>>83891856
I don't need to learn multiband compression because my mixing engineer does that for me 100x better than what I could ever dream of doing.
I just turn on my laptop anywhere in the world, make catchy melodies, chords, add loops and presets, change them up a little bit, automate them, export the individual stems, and my engineers will make it sound amazing.
No need for me to learn to be a mediocre mixer and have my own studio when I can just spend a fraction of what I make from gigs (that I got from having good-sounding generic music) to have someone do it for me.
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>>83891935
oh yeah well there you go

how much you pay those engineers m8?
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>>83891935
maybe there's no need, but aren't you interested in how that stuff works? most of things you can do you learn by just being interested in them, not by learning them under pressure to get something done
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>>83891952
Depends on the release.
Some times the label does it for me, some times they get paid a percentage of the sales, and some times it's just a flat fee (which can go from €50 to €150 depending on the engineer/studio and project).

>>83891953
In some cases yeah, if I'm interested in something I'll google it and satisfy my curiosity, but other than that not really.
It's just an unimportant part of the process for me, like I imagine you're not interested in how they make the algorithms for the different filters you use.
Do you expect a hairdresser to understand (or be interested about) how the motor inside her hairdryer works?
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>>83892067
how do i start
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>>83892110
Listen to a lot of EDM, become a local DJ and slip one or two of your songs in the set, make friends in the scene, help each other get bigger, get signed to small local label, get bigger, get signed to increasingly bigger labels, make increasingly more famous friends, have them play your music, get noticed by even bigger labels, until you're playing a small stage at a festival with the top guys and go hang out with them.
Once you're friends with the top guys, they'll play your music and make you famous.

At least this is how everyone does it.
I'm at the stage where I'm starting to meet semi-known people, and will soon have enough numbers on my social media to leverage a spot on a local festival.

If you're not good at making music, hire someone to help you out and get him to explain all the main tricks he knows (particularly about composing good melodies), and you'll gradually but quickly become good.
If you want you can hire a ghost producer and have him do all the work, but I don't advise you do this because if you get caught your reputation will be ruined, while if you get caught being a basic producer with low skills (but still producing your own songs) most people won't care, and you'll just get a couple of memes made about you that only other producers will care about.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7E3K73xTw4Q

sorry for the self promotion but i dont know what else to put here
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dank wish i had headphones... travis scott?
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>>83891964
the cute akai one that all the twinks use
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>>83891871

dude, you're already an insufferable loser who failed with his "nerdy shit"(probably was never truly nerdy because you're shallowness). it's too clear you're a projecting moron who never got accepted by other artists who will actually build legacies for themselves.

Your larping is pretty sad man, have fun with those millions ;^)

BTW: you can make unique music that sells, it's called talent and you have none.
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>>83892271
>and will soon have enough numbers on my social media to leverage a spot on a local festival.

Ha. I knew it. If you aren't already playing shows at festivals because you know the dudes who run them, you're wasting your time. Actually go out and make friends with these people, and they will give you a spot if you are even somewhat notable.

At least, this is how everyone does it
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>>83892648
>dude, you're already an insufferable loser who failed with his "nerdy shit"(probably was never truly nerdy because you're shallowness).
What do you mean?
Are you implying that I tried learning shit like multiband sidechaining but it was too hard for me, so I'm coping by shitting on it and calling it useless?
Nice theory bro.

>it's too clear you're a projecting moron who never got accepted by other artists who will actually build legacies for themselves.
You're making stories up about me and I'm the one who's projecting. Ok.

>Your larping is pretty sad man, have fun with those millions ;^)
I will.

>BTW: you can make unique music that sells, it's called talent and you have none.
Depends on your definition of "unique".
To me what the top guys make is pretty unique.
To you it may be generic.
To someone else anything using equal temperament tuning and subtractive synthesis might be too generic.
It's all subjective.
The only sure thing is that the guys that make the most money and have the most success are those who make the kind of music that can be done with presets and loops.
Sure you can try becoming the next Aphex Twin, but not only it will be much harder, but you'll also be a lot less successful een if you top his skills, simply because the market for that kind of music is much smaller.
The 100th guy in the mainstream market will be much more successful than the 1st guy in a niche market.

>>83892689
That's just one step in the whole climb.
Of course doing that helps a lot, but you have to start somewhere to get to hang out in that circuit.
I can't just knock at their home and ask if they want to be my friends.
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>>83887051

You're in luck since it's a synth and not a sample-based vocal. It's probably easy to find d something that can do this cheaply or free. I know I could squeeze that out of omnisphere pretty easily.
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who here /nativeinstruments/
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>>83890574
Bruh that isn't even hard they literally make programs that do that for you.
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>wake up
>wonder how /prod/ lived through the night
Oh wow it's some fag arguing with himself to stave off the inevitable death from inactivity.
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>>83892966
Based and bumppilled
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Can someone explain what chorus plugins do?
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>>83893497
They duplicate the signal one or more times and slightly pitch-shift each copy so it sounds like it's multiple different voices of a chorus.
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Alright niggers i need a new laptop, what should i look for in terms of specs if i want to run some DAWs and record and produce stuff?
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>>83894471
a desktop
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>>83894788
No in my situation it's not practical to have a desktop
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come on guys the last thread was the grumpy asshole thread
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>>83894471
Read these two posts:
https://rbt.asia/g/thread/67971601/#67978678
https://rbt.asia/g/thread/67971601/#67978693
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>>83895056
Thanks man
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>>83886926
Can't hear the vocals much. Unless that was intentional. If so good job. I honestly prefer this to the annoyingly loud vocals that are the standard
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how do I make nigga music
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https://clyp.it/neb02gt1
Been producing for some time and this is the fruit of my labors.


>>83886926
Good lo-fi sound and the flow is spot on, good vibes all around.

>>83887217
Sounds good until 00:20 when the sounds start overlapping each other. Try lowering the volume on some tracks and see if that helps.

>>83887556
Pure gold. Why aren't you famous yet? Do you have any lyrics that go with it?
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Guys I have an idea
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>>83896773
me too
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>>83895985
>>83887556 here
Thank you so much! I'm working on a solo album and this is the 4th out of 7 songs to be on it. I got some lyrics thought up and got all the themes and songs planned, hoping to get it finished some time next year!

I don't know much about your genre but I really like the slow buildup that got more and more intense. Mix wise I'd say I think that bright synth is just a tad bit too harsh, and I think the claps are too dark and boxy and could be brightened up a bit. Nice dreamy space-y groove to it.
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>>83897046
>>83897046
>>83897046
:)
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Someone said that resonating the chest is the reason why i struggle to sing high notes and why my throat/cords hurt when i sing mildly high; and that i should vibrate the head instead.
How do i into that? Wont that take off the body of the voice sound?
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>>83897980
will you fuck off and go take voice lessons already so an actual professional will tell you how you're fucking up

you don't listen anyway i'm not fucking helping you anymore
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>>83898058
it's a specific question now so im open to what you have to say on it... if you actually know what to say
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>>83898121
>... if you actually know what to say
stop being a fucking faggot you can't goad me into babying you sam. go read a book or learn to google
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>>83898121
>if you actually know what to say
That's the problem.
Any time someone tells you something that you disagree with, you just dismiss them as being wrong and not knowing what they're talking about.
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>>83898239
Just post some YouTuber saying the same thing so I don't just ignore your written advice
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>>83898272
the amount of misinformation on youtube about singing is probably the worst among all musical education lol

like you wouldn't just ignore them too
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>>83898315
you whos saying that.
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>>83898272
>want to help this guy on 4chan
>write a detailed response telling him what he needs to know
>"WAIT"
>"I CAN'T JUST POST IT! I NEED TO ADMINISTER IT TO HIM IN YOUTUBE FORM!"
>spend 10 hours trying to find a video that says everything my post says, with no results.
>spend 4 more hours finding 9 different videos, each saying part of my post
>somehow this is more believable than simply posting the text
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>>83898492
great have fun figuring it out yourself and ignoring the few people who ever try to help you
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Anyone know what causes the common pingy sub artifact
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>>83898518
you dont want to help me to sing

>>83898503
i just said to send in youtube because he didnt want to write a post. and it wouldnt take 10 hours to post a video he already watched from an youtuber he knows.
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ima stab all u fukrs talkin about singing
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>>83898674
i don't think you even want to learn, you just don't want to sound like shit but getting to that point would admit you're doing something wrong and you never do

look go fuck yourself and just watch a bunch of these https://www.youtube.com/user/NewYorkVocalCoaching/videos
ctrl+f head voice, "breathy" "falsetto" shit

don't post for the rest of the month, you've already spent your one serious from me for the month like a week ago so watch these until december and get back to me then
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>>83898805
yeah i just want to throw poop like amonkey until i kill ms youre 100% right
i tried to search vocal lesson vids but all i found were long winded fags talking about techniques that i couldnt figure how theyd help to sing high. only thing i learned till today is to move the larynx down and pull air from the below instead of singing with the throat.

and your monthly serious post was on october.

will look up that channel thx
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>>83898805
>you've already spent your one serious from me for the month like a week ago so watch these until december and get back to me then
>MONTHLY SAMMY TOKENS

good strategy anon
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>>83887347
I didn’t say “I guess”. I said she seems established and you’re acting like I disagree. Dumbass
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>>83899012
it was a joke about the general downplaying of womens' skills when it comes to anything remotely technical in music just based on your choice of words, not an attack on you personally anon
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>>83898698
Spotted the voicelet.
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>>83899271
my voice is fuckin epic
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>>83899320
Lay out some bars for us then scrote.
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Any good?
https://clyp.it/enp3o5bj
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>>83899445
did you just call me scrote
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what's the easiest non-meme genre to make?
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>>83901005
House
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>>83901005
Which are the non-meme genres?
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>>83901101
vaporwave or the stuff you can do in audacity like nightcore or whatever
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>>83901016
Probably this.
>4 on the floor
>claps on the 2s and 4s
>hat wankery
>shaker loop m8
>congas is house innit?
Done.
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>>83901005
>house
>techno
>trap
>classic dubstep (i.e. not the skrillex stuff)
>whatever REZZ does
>almost all those genres that are entirely created by sampling records.

These are some technically easy ones, but this doesn't mean you'll make a good song in those genres even if you mastered the process, since, as in all genres, what separates a good song from a bad one is mostly a matter of stylistic choices, taste, and musicality.

Also, in a lot of the easy to make ones like house and techno, producers have to do things a very specific way and get things "right" by making them conform perfectly to the tropes of the genre, so if you want to go this route it might not be actually easy to make them, since you'd need a lot of knowledge about the history and evolution of the genre, as well as of its production process.
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>>83901427
>>83901016
I suppose it depends on the type of house though, there's a lot of intricate sound design that can make up for the easy percussion
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>>83901513
Almost no house music has intricate sound design compared to other genres. It's only intricate compared to the average house song.

Even the most mediocre dubstep or idm kid can run circles around what's considered intricate sound design in house music.
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>>83901508
>>classic dubstep

what do you mean by this? i mostly agree with your post but what i think of as "Classic" dubstep obviously overlaps with garage.... like i'm thinking of somebody trying to rip off burial and that's definitely not technically easy. unless you mean really simple kick snare patterns with some triplets every now and then with wubby presets then okay


>>83901570
>>83901588
>Even the most mediocre dubstep or idm kid can run circles around what's considered intricate sound design in house music.

i kek'd.
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>>83901620
I think he means like skream and benga. essentially basslines and drum machines.
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>>83901508
>Also, in a lot of the easy to make ones like house and techno, producers have to do things a very specific way and get things "right" by making them conform perfectly to the tropes of the genre, so if you want to go this route it might not be actually easy to make them, since you'd need a lot of knowledge about the history and evolution of the genre, as well as of its production process.
This is why it's best to just completely ignore genres and just do whatever the fuck you want.
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>>83901588
>Even the most mediocre dubstep or idm kid can run circles around what's considered intricate sound design in house music.
unless you specifically want to make it sound like it's from 1987 or whatever, then you need a 707 and ESQ-1 and Midiverb.
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How to get that 70s sound? I love this shit, especially the vocals quality.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bV0UxhODFk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqoeM18vCaU
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>>83901101
Glitchhop. Make a good hiphop beat (also easy) overdub a gritty synth bass, and run it through a probability trigger beat slicer effect program til you get a result that works.
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>>83901620
>>83901660
>unless you mean really simple kick snare patterns with some triplets every now and then with wubby presets then okay
Yes, I mean that kind of dubstep.
The sampling ones are a bit more difficult because you need to get creative with sample manipulation, but desu the Burial-type stuff is still pretty easy in the world of music production.

>>83901700
But that's not intricate sound design.
It's just a very specific flavor of a very simple kind of sound design.
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>>83901822
meant for
>>83901005
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>>83900569
What do you use to record your voice? I kinda want to get a mic since I have an interface already but I don't want to spend much money.
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>>83901670
This.
Imagine dedicating your life work to making music the least original way ON PURPOSE, just so other jerkoffs can nod their heads in approval because you managed to be "faithful" to the rules of their meme genre...
As long as it earns them a living I guess.
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>>83901660
hmmmm i guess

idk. i make music in a lot of different genres (or at least i've tried) and i've found that the general statements deriding x genre as being easy or technically simple are generally complete bullshit and only really only hold up if you've been "into" a genre or engrossed in it.

eg as a teenager i was pretty exclusively into old rock music. it was easy to stick my nose up at making trap beats until i actually tried it and realized 15 year old preset jockeys were running circles around me. conversely coming from my background it's ridiculous that they couldn't make a chord progression with a bunch of modulation and chromaticism thrown in.

even across electronic genres, there seems to be like a hidden core concept that people from musical out-groups have trouble grasping as taking some form of skill to put together in music they're not familiar with.

but yeah anyway uk garage grime dubstep shit that actually has a cool rhythm is still fucking alien to me even if it might be super simple British people or whatever
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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NneJgV1upyI
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsDqQTQrB6Q

what genre is this? deep house?
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>>83902003
yeah goes to what >>83901508 was
saying
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>>83902063
i was sure that that original video was somebody shilling their shit here because it had <1000 views lmao

was that phaser irl? kind of seemed the type
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>>83902003
>even across electronic genres, there seems to be like a hidden core concept that people from musical out-groups have trouble grasping as taking some form of skill to put together in music they're not familiar with.
Not really, that's only true if you have super limited taste and no real ambition. And that's not unique to electronic music either. It's only really shitty boring people who only listen to the genre that they make.
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Dubs decides which genre WE ALL make a beat of.
You DID come here to learn production RIGHT?
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>>83902139
i'm talking specifically about people who talk shit about how easy it is to make whatever genre.

i typed way too much to express it but basically all i'm getting at is just because you have a great grasp of dub techno doesn't mean you can crank out trap bangers when your total exposure to trap was that you heard gucci gang once and it sounded easy
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>>83902003
A genre being considered easy to make doesn't mean any producer who's never made it can make a good song on their first try, unless they're getyoursnackon-level good.
There are many things that you may not notice when listening to it but all together contribute to the final song.
You may not do them there because you don't know that you're supposed to, but if you had a list of all of them you'd have much less trouble making a good song than if it were a genre that's considered difficult (for example if you've never made neurofunk you'd still require months or years even after being told everything that you're supposed to do).
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>>83902206
IDM WE MAKE IDM
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>>83902206
acid house
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>>83902206
Dungeon Synth
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>>83902206
Synthwave
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>>83902114
Zen World is a well-known youtuber who's famous for being a cringy moron who makes super basic videos and often gives wrong information.

I'm absolutely sure this isn't Phaser because his whole thing was that he wasn't happy with the usual multiband splitting methods so he made a convoluted one that's supposedly better somehow.
This youtuber just used the EQ3 (which Phaser would tell you in 6 paragraphs that is the wrong way) and talked about it like it's some super obscure overkill technique.

Also IIRC Phaser said he's Italian.
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>>83902210
>i'm talking specifically about people who talk shit about how easy it is to make whatever genre.
oh those people are always stupid as fuck and not worth listening to
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>>83902206
Bubblegum bass :^)
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>>83902391
>Also IIRC Phaser said he's Italian.
Jesus christ i've been on /prod/ too long i hate that i remember that

whole video was just cringe idg how the fuck end up in that situation
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>>83902206
Lofi Hiphop beats to study to
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>>83902206
RE-ROLL FOR IDM

inb4 nobody makes the winning genre anyway and we all ignore the post after the get
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>>83902206
minecraft-themed parodies of famous pop songs
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>>83895985
>Try lowering the volume on some tracks and see if that helps.
thank you, just realized i had everything on like 80% volume and higher lol
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>>83902206
big room
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>>83902455
>idg how the fuck end up in that situation
Based ESLposter
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my beat store is go boyos, time for it to rain money
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>>83902206
Fortnite-themed parodies of famous pop songs
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>>83902206
Future Funk
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>>83902206
Harsh noise.
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SAMMY CAMPUS INSPIRED DAD ROCK COVERS
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>>83902206
math rock
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>>83902206
le
>V A P O R W A V E
meme
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>>83902206
100% faithful recreation of "Hip to Be Square".
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>>83902629
Fuck, not even this got dubs.
This thread is officially cursed.
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>>83902206
>literally 5 gets in the last hour
>as soon as you start looking for them they dry up
Fuck I dunno, Trance.
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>>83902653
remember when dubs got turned off on /b/
get posts need to be banned

>>83902613
roll
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>>83902206
Deathstep.
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>>83902206
progressive house
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>>83902206
Angry Gay Club Dance/Fuck music
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>>83902442
Shame you didn't get it bruv, but thanks for expanding my horizons.
Also reroll for this.
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https://clyp.it/qy5uagju

Thoughts?

I'm aware I'm compositionally retarded.
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>>83902206
eccojam
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>>83902206
nigger music
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>>83902749
Well that unsettled me.
Cool sounds though.

>>83902358
Reroll.
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>>83902748
It's what SOPHIE makes.
The joke was that we'd all be forced to make the rubber sounds, which are a /prod/ meme.
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>>83902866
yaay
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>>83902866
Delet this
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>>83902866
FUCK YOU

WE'RE MAKING WHAT SOPHIE MAKES
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AAAAAAAAAAAA
Gate your snare and feather your hair fags, we're going back.
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>>83902866
>>83902877
>>83902899
What the fuck is going on???
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>>83902866
fuck that's gay
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Thoughts on taking music production classes through my community college?
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>>83903015

Might be a fun way to earn credits. Is it specific to any DAW or workflow in particular?
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>>83903015
>spending money on college for one of the last skills you don't need a piece of paper to get a job in
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>>83903042
I don't really need the credits, I already have a degree. The school offers a certificate for this program which I guess would be cool if I want to intern at a studio some day. Just says "industry standard software"
>>83903124
I'm lazy and I think this will boost me in the right direction if I have some accountability
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>>83903178
How much would it cost you, and is this amount a lot to you?
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>>83903215
around $800 for the semester, 2 classes covering recording technology and how to correct audio. That's not a significant amount where I'd stress about it. My life goals are more important to me than money
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>>83903178
if u want accountability promise yourself that you will kill yourself if you don't learn 2 produce
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>>83903329
I kinda already have a pact like that where if I'm still doing the same job at 25 I'll kms. I just need to get off my ass and put in the work
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>>83903308
What is the main advantage for you?
Is it the certificate?
The "pre-established" plan that you get to follow?
The incentive to not fuck around?
Other?

What degree do you already have?
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Need some recommendations for a MIDI keyboard.
I literally only care about having a nice keybed, good build quality and MIDI out.
Currently I'm looking at the Alesis VI49 or Roland A-500Pro.

Anything else I should be considering in that 250-400 range?
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>>83903383
I think having a introducing a schedule, being held accountable, being able to network with other students into producing, and just a general starting point into industry equipment are appealing to me

I have a degree in medicine lab science. Which means I'm qualified to work in hospital labs helping with specimen testing and diagnosing. It pays decent but I'd like to work in a creative field eventually
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https://clyp.it/1hhd1ewv

Some small thing I made up. What are some things i can do to improve it?
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>>83903485
Then by all means do it.
If $800 isn't that much to you, I'd say they're worth it.

I'd just advise you to strongly considering leaving medicine lab science for the music industry.
Working in music can be a serious grind, and few can make a good living doing it.
That's unless you become a successful artist, but that's an extreme high-risk/high-reward choice, where almost everyone fails, and the few that do, have to engage in fierce competition to mantain their name afloat.
Of course a decently paying job in a creative field is better than a decently paying job that you don't like (or that you don't like as much as a creative one), but that's hard to get.
What you'll most likely get is a badly paying job in a creative field, which is much worse than a decently paying one in a hospital lab because it pays less while being more soulcrushing.

Think about it long and hard because you're in a lucky minority of aspiring musicians/music-workers who have a good plan-A behind them, and it would be a shame to waste it and live the rest of your life in poverty and regret.
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>>83903508
Different drum samples for a start
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>>83902206
Swing
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>>83901016
I disagree with this completely
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>>83902206
UK Garage
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built a good progression but no idea what to do with it
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>>83902206
chill lo-fi beats to study to
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>>83902206
VAPOR
WAVE
BITCHES

GET TO WORK
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>>83902206
I second lo fi study beats

8 bar loop MAX
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>>83894471
16gb of ram
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I want to make electronic music but I have no idea where to start
I know I should get a DAW first but then what am I supposed to do after that? how do I actually make the music?

I would like to make stuff kinda like this:
https://crampedskunkman.bandcamp.com/album/social-responsibilitie
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>>83894471
good cpu everything else is upgradable
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>>83903508
Wow that's pretty shit
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>>83902206
Hands-up Techno
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>>83905224
You'll need
-Drum samples (Can be found online for purchase or free packs)
-Soft synths (Your DAW will likely have stock synths, but most people use 3rd party synths called VSTs)
-Hardware synths. Pretty self-explanatory: physical synthesisers if you prefer to use hardware instead of software
-Samples in general. This could be anything from a Diana Ross track to a conversation you recorded while on the train. Sample from records, CDs, YouTube, yourself etc.

Just look up on YouTube 'Synthwave production tutorial' and have a look at the process, should give you a rough idea.
But the beginning stages of producing are very confusing and you should just dive in without overthinking it.
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>>83904763
Drag your 2/4/8 bar or whatever loop out to be the rough length of your finishes song, then start subtracting parts
It's easier to conceptualise the full arrangement through this way, instead of being faced with 5 minutes to fill
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finally getting some attention from a respectable mid sized label. should know within a few days. pray for me lads
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gonna sell my first beat aaany minute now
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>>83906847
no you wont
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>>83906680
High key I think all the backlash against the "loudness wars" is pretty much bullshit and barely anybody can hear the volume matched difference
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>>83885560
what does it take to get good at musical composition? I dunno if I'm gonna make it at this rate.
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>>83908416
Some people get good by learning theory, some people get good by making a million songs, and some people get good by simply absorbing great music and "composing" instinctively.
For most people it's a combination of all these factors, with some weighing more than others.
It's all up to you and your specific case, tochoose how you want to develop your sense of musicality.

I'd say, start analyzing other great songs and try to see what makes them great compared to a subpar song of the same genre, then apply those characteristics to your songs.
With time you'll get better and better.
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https://instaud.io/2TYP

>4 hours 37 minutes from start to upload
Any advice for me? At the very least I think that's a new personal fastest.
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>>83903508
Drums need to punch more, and I'm not to big on that chimey sample, but I like the beat and vocal chop.
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Poorfag trying to get into mixing, I have a 4gb memory chromebook and I was thinking of installing ubuntu linux so I can run Audacity, is this a reasonable idea or should I just stick with the shitty free program I have now?
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>>83906226
bump
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>>83909377
fuck andrew huang
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>>83909815
Fuck you actually got me to check if I have any pictures of him saved in my /prod/ folder (I don't).
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>>83909852
>>83909815
what does he even actually do that he gets mentioned so much?
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>>83909871
Makes shittons of Youtube videos with clickbait titles.
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>>83909145
Get a desktop, 24gb RAM min.
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>>83909871
he's just the most successful "youtube production tutor" so he gets thrown around a lot.

realistically most of his advice isn't bad, he's just too busy chasing ad revenue and sponsorships to actually expand on anything, so he makes 10 minute videos on topics you "should" know with no real educational or informative value unless you're completely braindead.
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>suddenly it's late at night
Try not to let the thread die, Aussies.
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>>83909956
holy heck stop posting this fucking webm faggot it was only funny the first time
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How is the composition of this beat, guys?
https://clyp.it/redsr3rg

>>83886926
Lower the pad and boost the vocal up
>>83887556
Sounds good, but I usually mix electronic music so take this with a grain of salt. The song brings me back to the old garage band day so I bet you can make hella money with a rapper and some 808s (if that's your thing).
>>83889175
>How do I make better shits
By making more shits. Immitate your favourite artists until you don't have to anymore.
>>83895985
Try cutting a bit of the high-end out of the the buzz-pad-thingy a bit. It sounds kinda harsh to me.
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>>83909956
it looks just great
but I've always wondered if one can hide these ugly hand-written plugin labels in reason
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>>83890872
anyone? do you use non-software daws?
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>>83887556
heh, sounds exactly like your description, good job
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>>83911198
>>83890872
>allows recording and editing of MIDI tracks
dude you fuckin serious? all the major daws do this
ableton is most midi oriented arguably. go google or some shit idfk why op keeps not posting the pastebin
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>>83898805
What the hell. 10 minutes in and he told me nothing on how to do head voice, he just said how it works and went to an exercise with the piano but I have no idea how to control these muscles.
https://youtu.be/KaMJ9YvnUNw
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https://clyp.it/edlu3kib

Let me know what ya'll think. I like the levels I have on everything, what do ya'll think of the overall sound?
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>>83911221
I'm afraid you didn't read the part where I said "hardware daws"
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>>83911272
A computer is fucking hardware isnt it?? Or do you think it is made of magic and spiderwebs?
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>>83911272
my god
i can tollerate hardwarefags but to ask this question and act like there aren't literally only a handful of those fucking boxes that exist that everybody already knows about is just stupid

i refuse to accept that you can be that huge of a faggot hipster in this day and age and not already know what options are available to you. you are baiting and i shall shun you
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>>83911260
guitar strumming is all off and the drums sound like crap honestly. singing is nice though

>>83908606
>Any advice for me?
uh yeah stop judging yourself based on the time it takes.snares don't need to be as loud as you think. synths are not cutting through. dig the overall vibe but the mix is keeping me from enjoying it

>>83900437
bruv it's like 30 seconds of an incomplete trap beat. decent start but can't judge it yet
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>>83911411
A computer isn't a daw
>>83911448
perhaps you know more than me?
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>>83911512
here's a >(You) faggot stop trolling
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>>83911541
I'm not.
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>>83911553
okay sorry i believe you now
try going to w w w . g o o g l e . com
and search hardware daw!
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>>83902206
nu jazz
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>>83911577
I didn't ask for hardware workstations, I asked if someone here knows the ones with better midi implementation
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>>83909956
fuck reason!
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>>83911494
What about now?
https://clyp.it/ycic4ws0
I have to change something because it bores me to death.
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>>83912588
nice!
i would add a vocal sample at the end of the meter,add a loud sub that plays rhythmically with its octaves and a "serious" sweeping kinda pad.Also when the lead goes an octave up,try keeping the old one behind it.
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>>83912588
808 needs more high end, run it through some sinoid distortion, or if you're going for the reese sound, don't lowpass it too much, it just sounds like a phased sine wave right now.
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>>83909948
I mean, he's quite entertaining. His music is so boring and generic though.
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>>83909956
reason always looks so fucking cool to me. I love the virtual racks
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Boys, would you be interested in doing something like a sample challenge, but instead of it being from somewhere, it's something I give you?
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>>83887556
This is cool as fuck lol. It’s like 2010s Christian rock meets a metal kick drum
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How do I learn sidechaining and mixing right?
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aaaany minute now....these beats will sell....
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>>83913206
Alright, thanks. I'll see what I can do.
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how can I tell what key this is in?

https://instaud.io/2U3g

can someone with ears help me pls
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>>83915240
None you motherfucker
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>tfw you spend hours in live and only come up with a simple piano loop

too fucking lazy to make something with it
https://clyp.it/vtgub2n1
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>>83915293
fug

is it bad? is there a way to process it into a tonality lmao

or i could just be experimental atonal coolguy
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>>83909871
He also stole /prod/'s roulette thing and made videos about it.
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>>83914843
with your ears

seriously, just learn to actually pay attention to tracks in the style you want to emulate and listen to see where everything sits. Are the hats in your face or are they tucked away nice and neat, are you going deaf from the snares or are they under control and punch when needed, does the kick bust your ear drums or just add a nice "boom" when needed. Reference tracks and start applying it to your mix.

The mix is just another step in the process. Personally i've gotten into the habit of sitting on projects for a few days before going back to mix it. Let's me focus on producing when i want to create, and leaving the mix for another time so i can give my ears a break and come back fresh.

As for sidechaining, it's literally the same idea as normal compression, the only difference is when you need a quick duck. The easiest way to get started is to take the idea of side chaining as "short vs long". If you have short sounds coming in and out clashing with longer sounds (eg a kick drum clashing with bass lines), sidechain the short sound to the long sound and adjust as normal. Another quick and dirty tip is to increase the gain reduction significantly to let you hear the compression in full effect (really good for super high or low frequencies) so you can adjust as necessary, and then adjust the GR to where you want it to sit in the mix. Of course there's a _lot_ more that i don't have the time or character count to explain about sidechaining, but that's the gist of it. talk to google and youtube if you want some in-depth information about it.
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>>83915480
Yeah, no, don't do that. Just take a scale you like, make a melody of it and see which chords are made of notes of that scale. That's it.
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>>83915632
>>83915293

https://instaud.io/2U49
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>>83909974
>implying I didn't make a new one just to post it
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>>83911182
As far as I know you can't, but honestly I haven't read the entire manual.

>>83911034
Comp sounds good to me friend.
When that cowbell part came on at first I made an incredulous face, but then I liked it.
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>>83911260
I think it sounds good except the guitar strum attack is too sharp, which along with the loose playing makes them jarring rather than lazy sounding.
If you can tone down that harsh string twang it'll be really cool.
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>>83911494
Thanks man, I only mentioned the time because it was a response to that genre get (which I guess nobody else did).
The snare bit I understand, while recording that mp3 I actually turned the transient boost on the snare down like a minute in.
I was deffo getting ear fatigue by the end of the session though, so I'll take another pass at it today.
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>>83912252
Spooky m8, I like it.
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>>83914071
I have my text file for the 70s soul roulette, I'm just waiting on my bro to have some time to photoshop it pretty since I'm a paintlet.
But to answer your question, yes.
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>>83915370
Keep it around and resample it into future projects.
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>>83914843
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2w6cRqRzrCw

Watch some videos and practice on your own tracks.
Also it can be useful to set up a parametric eq with high Q and high gain and sweep it through your individual tracks to hear what the instrument sounds like at different areas of it's spectrum.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg2pS9KN28U

Working on similar song. Anyone know what was used on her vocals to sound like that?
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>>83917650
A phaser.
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Are iLok products cracked? Jst Bassforge has been out for more than a week and i still can't find it anywhere
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>>83918256
anything that requires the dongle is a no-go.
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https://clyp.it/t54wr1n4

Downtempo hip-hop beat I'm working on. Sample is some old italian opera song. Messed with the pitch, chopped it up and reversed it in some spots. Bass/strings/synths are from my Roland FA-06.

Is there anything that should be added/taken away? I'd like to get some interesting analog synth sounds in there but don't want to ruin the vibe of the song. Also welcoming any comments or critiques on the drums.
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>>83918629

https://instaud.io/2U5W

Accidentally uploaded an older version of the song. This is the most recent version.
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>>83918629
>>83918681
give feedback first
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>>83918629
>>83918681
you need some more variation on your drums, especially the kick.

when the sample fades out (around 45s to 1:30) it's just the same loop over and over again. Unless you're planning to put vocals over it, it's very monotonous and could use a little flavor. Maybe drop some percussion elements out of the mix to give more weight to the background sample, or add in fills every few bars or something.

secondly the kick is also a bit too loud, and maybe it wouldn't hurt to pitch it down a bit too. Downtempo and "boom bap" style hip hop usually has some pretty hard kicks but some decent compression on it or just dropping it a bit lower in the mix will give a smoother vibe to the track.

as for adding to it, the only thing i can really think is to add some counter melody here and there. i like how you chopped the sample, so maybe something simple like a pad heavy on the mid frequencies to play underneath at certain points, or maybe some chords from a Rhodes or something to fill in. When the sample drops out would be a decent place to start so you get some kind of "response" to what you set up with it the sample.
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>>83920133
>>83915632
https://instaud.io/2U6I

took it FARTHER
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>>83904763
curious what the chords are
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>>83921327
god damnit man you couldn't just let the thread die
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>>83918629
I agree with >>83918863
Drop the volume on your kick and maybe the ratio on your sidechain.
As for additions maybe a pluck or key style countermelody, but I wouldn't get too zealous about it because you'll ruin the chill vibe by overcomplication.
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So anyone else did the Start Here 12 Hour Sample challenge?

https://loop.ableton.com/2018/start-here/

Just submitted mine and i'm honestly pretty happy with it
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>>83920169
who downloaded this and why? sb stealing tracks now??
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f the rules
i made a discord for ppl who wanna sample idc what u do with a sample its just a randomly picked sample each week and u can do whatever and share it.
idc abt the rules just itd be cool to see what other ppl do with the same shit
https://discord.gg/WHJ5zE
this weeks sample is Himno Nacional Argentino from https://archive.org/details/HimnoNacionalArgentino_100





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