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Starting a new /bbg/ thread. Post your bike buying questions here. Don't forget to include your size and your local craigslist.

I am a roadie, but I'm interested in getting a hardtail XC bike for racing and trail riding when I feel like a change from the road. Budget is $900, and I want 2x, hydraulic discs, and an air suspended fork.

Found this Raleigh Tekoa Comp that fits all of those requirements for a very attractive price. Anybody have anything bad to say of these?
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>>1058263
HA HA
NICE SUBJECT FIELD FAGGOT
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Got $400 dollaroos.

Recommend me a good bike that'll get me from home to work (about 4 miles distance)
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>>1058267
Used rigid MTB with city tires
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I am looking for a mountain bike for my wife. Are bikes that claim to be desingned with female specific geometry actually a better ride for women?

Any specific mountain bike recommendations for a beginner? I am thinking hard tail with nice frame that can be upgraded as parts wear out for maybe aroun $1200-1500. We will not be riding anything too gnarly and no racing, just easy rolls in the woods for now.

Thanks
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>>1058267
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>>1058267
this >>1058268
old ridig mtbs are tough and reliable and very cheap
you can get one for $100-150, spend $50 on a rack and fenders $50 on a pannier, and the remaining $100 on drugs of your choice

don't listen to this fag >>1058294
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>>1058295
>thinking Anon will chose a tweaker mtb over a shiny new fixie
Kek
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>>1058285
>female specific geo
men have longer torsos and women have longer legs proportional to the rest of the body
this means mens bikes have longer top tubes for a given seat tube height
women's bikes have shorter top tubes relative to seat tube
however, you can achieve the same thing with shorter stem
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>>1058298
>thinking that a "shiny new fixie" isn't going to be shit for commuting
>thinking that 90s rigid mtbs aren't the pinnacle of bicycle design
do you even ride?
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>>1058299
>however, you can achieve the same thing with shorter stem
At the cost of fucking with the bike's handling.

While this anon is 100% correct it's important to realize there's no perfect fix for a bikes geometry, getting the best fitting bike is always better than tweaking shit around
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>>1058299
I thought that shit just meant the female version comes in much smaller sizes and the men's version comes in larger sizes.
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>>1058308
There's some companies that do shrink it down and lower the top tube and call it a day, but most big/reputable companies have female specific geometry

there's a few other differences like narrower bars with shallower drops and womens saddles as well.
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I've been riding my first, fully rigid 90s mtb for close to 2 years now. I've homed my skills, took it down shit I shouldn't have and have rattled my brain. It's been a great bike and still love it, but I'm ready to make the next step to a entry/mid level hard tail with a suspension fork. I'd like some recommendations for any bike that have these qualities :

27.5 wheels
Disc brakes
1x drive train (2x will be ok, if need be)
Reputable brand
Warranty
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>>1058322
My bike
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>>1058322
at what price range, nigga
I'd reccomend spending around 1k to get an air fork (this is for a new bike, you can buy used to get cheaper always too)

also have you considered 27.5+? good way to get a more capable bike without blowing 2k+ on a full suspension setup
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>>1058324
My aplogies. I'd like to buy used. I'm a bit a poor nigga, but I'd like to spend 500 to 600 . I also have a ton of bikes to barter and trade as well.
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>>1058323
Dem skinwalls look dry AF.
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>>1058327
You probably won't find a 1x at that price used.
look around on CL and pinkbike.

Look for an air fork and don't get a component level lower than deore.
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>>1058328
They are, and they are original. I am riding them until they blow up . They are great tires. Very grippy
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>>1058329
2x doesn't bother me. 1x would be less worry, but I'm so used to my bike now it doesn't be an isdue. Are there any brands to look for (or stay away) from. And any particular model that hits the "best bang for buck :?
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>>1058334
Nah, not when you're shopping used.
Just stay away from bikes direct unless you really know what you're doing. But realistically all the brands making bikes you'll find at that price range know what they're doing.

Once you find one you like, just do a bit of research to make sure you're not getting jewed and paying 2x what it's worth. Not one particular model has best bang for your buck because there's always tradeoffs. Sure stuff on bikes direct is cheap for what you're getting, but the frames are questionable quality. And something from trek/specialized may cost more, but the frames are fantastic, have lifetime warranties behind them, etc
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Ok let's try this again.

I don't have the time or sanity to learn all the lingo and memes about bikes from /n/.

I already went full autist on /k/, /co/, and /pol/, so I'm not really up to the task of getting to learn this board's culture.

I only ask of 1 task from you /n/imble navigators; go on www.performancebike.com and find me a bike that (You) would ride to and from work. The only restriction is that you have $400 to spend.

>just save more money!

Can't I'm saving up for a new CZ SP01 and I'm also trying to build a gaming PC.

Please just help an ignorant autist out?
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>>1058339
Any of the single speeds should do.
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>>1058339
With that budget I'd buy used desu. Either OTS or 90s MTB with slicks. If you absolutely have to buy new then listen to the anon above me and get any single speed.
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>>1058340
>>1058341
Any single speed catch your eye?
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>>1058339
You can test ride bikes at performance bike in the parking lot. Go there with time to get a feel for what you want, what size tires you want, what fits you, and what you like the ride of. I'd suggest saving an extra hundred or so, disk brakes are a nice thing to have especially on a commuter. Stopping in the rain is a nice thing to be able to do.

You'll mostly find Fuji, gt, and diamondbacks which are all decent. Although I'm personally convinced the gt brand is trying to kill me.
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>>1058339
THIS meets all your criteria:
http://www.performancebike.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product_10052_10551_1187808_-1_400306__400306
It's probably just fine for the listed price.
THIS is what I'd personally buy without arbitrary budget restrictions, because of reasons listed below.
http://www.performancebike.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product_10052_10551_1216766_-1_400306__400306

>steel
>ss
>disc brakes
>eyelets everywhere
>under a grand
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requirements:
>SRAM grouppo
>hydro dick brakes
>clearance for at least 28s+mudguards
>mount points for front and rear racks

Would be a daily driver that I sometimes take up in to the hills for camping. Basically a 'gravel bike' but they're flavour of the month so you end up paying £1500 for Claris and mech discs...

Think I should probably just build myself and avoid Fred tax...
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>>1058360
bro that ones like 3500 dollarydoos
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>>1058361

I know, I was just using it as an example.
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>>1058360
>Think I should probably just build myself and avoid Fred tax...
Yes, duh.

Some readily-available, reasonably-priced framesets:
>Twinsix Standard Rando
>Soma Wolverine
>Soma Fogcutter
>All City Space Horse Disc
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What do you think, lads? I really don't need another bike, but $50 for this frame is hard to pass up. Those lugs...

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/6057024577.html
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>>1058365
Eh, if it had the original paintjob and fork, and vertical dropouts, I'd go for it. $50 seems a little steep for a rigid MTB frame.
It's gorgeous though. Probably could flip it for mad hipster bux.
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Seriously now, how shitty are Continental UltraSport 2 tires really? I just need something with decent puncture protection and a somewhat smooth ride, but I live in a third world shithole and there's very limited selection of tires (and int'l shipping takes like two months). These and Schwalbe Luganos are the only tires I can find in 28c width, which is the widest my frame can take.
Will I regret getting either?
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>>1058381

My most recent bike came with US2s on it as standard and I've done ~300km on them so far. Can't complain really. They're not Conti's best tyres for sure, but that doesn't necessarily make them bad tyres.
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>>1058364

Cheers for the suggestions. Shame they're all US based framebuilders! I'll have a look and see if there are any stockists on my side of the pond... Should probs look in to smaller builders round here too.
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Is this a decent deal?
Been wanting a road bike with some sort of STI shifters for a while.
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>>1058398
Also, I am 5'7 so I assume the bike would fit;
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>>1058399
>>1058398
Yes, it'd fit. And it's a decent deal if everything's working properkly.
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>>1058399
I think this bike might be on the small side if you are 5-7". I can't tell exactly what the components are, but if it has the version of tiagra with the thumb shifter button I would pass. Also if it has been heavily used it may need new chain rings and cassette
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Hey I was looking for a rigid mtb for winter/trail riding. I live in a pretty small city so my options are pretty limited but I did end up finding two options that look pretty decent. I just wanted to post these two bikes and double check that I'm not getting ripped off. Currently leaning towards the $50 raleigh. I also wanted to double check that these both would fit me as a 6,1 man with 34 in inseam.

https://stcloud.craigslist.org/bik/6051270882.html

https://stcloud.craigslist.org/bik/6049348204.html
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>>1058413
Both of those bikes are too small for you, the Raleigh so tiny you'd have to ride it like a BMX bike.

Here's a better option:
https://stcloud.craigslist.org/bik/6038763576.html

>>1058365
Would make a great 26" touring bike, and that bag support is cool... if I lived there I'd be tempted to buy it too.
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Local bike store has Rockhopper Sports for 629 or marlin 7 for 750 normally, but they're coming up on their spring sale where all bikes are at least 15% off.

Decent buys for the price? I'm not knowledgeable enough to gauge a used bike properly to be honest.
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>>1058480
Rockhopper Sport and 2017 Marlin 7 are the same price in the UK, given the choice I'd go for the Marlin for the better fork and 9 speed drivetrain. 2016 Marlin has the same fork as the Rockhopper and is still 9 speed but is a fair bit cheaper.
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I live in the North Pennines in England. I often see lots of cyclist in the area. They seam to come on holiday/race here.

I am interested in getting in to cycling. I assume the people who come here use road bikes when they race and stuff ?

What bike should i buy ? looking to spend less than 500 bongs, ideally cheap as possible with some semblance of quality. I am a 6 ft 1 male.
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Should I buy a miyata for 150$? The pics look pretty good.
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>>1058486
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/mobile/us/en/cube-attain-pro-road-bike-2016/rp-prod141422

Size 56 or 58
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>>1058532
How about you post the pics
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>>1058571
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>>1058480
Just some advice.

Try to get your budget up to around 1000. You can actually get a nice bike in that price range. The 750 or lower bracket is pretty abysmal, your going to end up with at least a few total crap components.
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Are these mirrors a meme gimmick or actually useful?
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>>1058691
If you can turn your head and neck to glance behind you a mirror is superfluous, but they're very useful for cyclists who literally can't do that for some reason.
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>>1058694
>a mirror is superfluous
mirrors can be nice if you have to merge over often or watch the road behind you
while you should look with your head, sometimes a mirror gives you extra ability to see on top of that, and never hurts
>>1058691
>are these mirrors a gimmick
you're better off with a helmet mounted mirror
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>>1058553

Thanks
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>>1058691
>ITT: 4chan slowly descends into old man status.
I remember when this board was all road bikes and "slam that stem." What happened, /n/, you used to be cool.
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>>1058661
I'm still not sure how much I'll actually like mtb. It's kind of hard to drop 1k on it to be honest. If you have a recc for something really sweet at around there I might be able to put 350 on credit and 600 up front or something if I'm that hyped but otherwise... it's hard to justify.
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>>1058751
>What happened, /n/, you used to be Aspie.
fixed huehuehue
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>>1058640
I'd get it, as long as everything works
Those wheels look rather flimsy though
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>>1058758
If you're not really sure if you will enjoy it you shouldn't even be spending $650.

Go buy a used 90's MTB for $100 or less and go ride.
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Best rolling road tires?
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>>1058801
Hmm... let me rephrase that.

I want a bike for sure. For health and recreation purposes. I live in an area that is immensely hilly. Hopping on my bike and riding out of my driveway around my neighborhood means steep ass hills and extremely questionable pavement. Or no pavement. There are also an abundance of local trails and mountain bike trails I can drive to quickly since I live in central Texas. I just don't know for sure if I want an mtb or a hybrid etc, and how much I'd take it onto actual mtb trails since I have a kind of tender back at the moment due to a 6 week or so old gym injury. Hopefully as I recover a bit more and get more skilled at it I'd get more daring, but I'd like to start riding sooner than later without ending up with the wrong type of bike for what I want to do.
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https://victoria.craigslist.ca/bik/6058068419.html

Should I?
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>>1058839
Nah
Offer $50
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>>1058839
https://victoria.craigslist.ca/bik/6035860918.html
Or this? I'm 6'1"
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>>1058841
https://victoria.craigslist.ca/bik/6001231625.html
https://victoria.craigslist.ca/bik/6001066202.html
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>>1058842
https://victoria.craigslist.ca/bik/6061479658.html
One last one. These are what I have to choose from.
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How often do I need to have my fox 32 suspension serviced? Is once a year good or too often? What problems am I avoiding exactly by having this expensive procedure done annually?
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http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/gravity/fsx_1.htm
worth it?
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>>1058842
>>1058845
>>1058841
http://www.usedvictoria.com/classified-ad/Klien-Adept-Comp-size-L_28669776
Very very last one.
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>>1058848
no, bikes direct has some decent offerings, but that is def a BSO. I have a 20 year old KHS that has better tech than that.
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>>1058824
https://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/bik/6061683948.html
mite b ok

here's a lower spec hardtail with throw-ins
https://waco.craigslist.org/bik/6012767855.html
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>>1058862
Dallas is too far for me, I'm more in the west of Austin area.

The Waco one I might have to check up on, although it's a month old I notice.
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>>1058858
https://russhays.com/collections/mens-mtb
Is anything under $700 on this page decent? The cheaper the better.
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>>1058864
https://austin.craigslist.org/bik/6061356178.html

looks kinda sweet if you're into the 'one ring - suffeRING' meme of single speeds.

i mean i just bought a singlespeed steel cyclocross bike for myself for the bombproof nature of steel and ss with the slightly more upright geo and larger tire clearance of cx.
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>>1058865
overpriced- a revel 2 is only $330 from giant- avoid that place
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>>1058873
I don't know if I'm a bad enough dude to singlespeed. Especially since there is no such thing as flat terrain here.
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>>1058874
Is that a decent bike?
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>>1058875
>I don't know if I'm a bad enough dude to singlespeed

you will be.
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I've seen people recommending Norco over the standard brands. I've got a local norco dealer and I like their shop. Are they worth it? I've been looking at the Charger 9.2
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>>1058906
yeah man norco is baller status!

personally i'd save up for one of their AM Hardtails
>http://www.norco.com/bikes/mountain/all-mountain/torrent-7-HT-plus/torrent-72/

but if you want the XC bike live your dream. all i'm sayin' is with the Torrent you have a lot more bike to grow into when you want to start getting gnarly.
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howdy nægrœs.

so I've owned nothing but Treks the last 15 years or so. love the bikes, never had an issue. however, there's only one Trek dealer in Sydney, and although they're very good they really pissed me off this time. absolutely nothing in stock under $1000, and the guy was really pushy.

i mountainbike around the city most of the time but also go on weekend trips to the mountains/national park/etc. i'm not a bike commuter, more of a joyrider and errand-runner.

anyway I've given up on Trek for the time bean and bought myself a Totem from a local shop. a little cheaper but with nice features, like Shimano disc brakes and lockout shocks. I bought it sight-unseen to get the process rolling and tomorrow I go down there to test it out and decide if I want to keep it.

how bad did I fuck up /n/?

http://www.cellbikes.com.au/Totem-Roam-29
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I'm 180cm tall. Is this too big? Also general thoughts? I have a 40km round way to work everyday and my current shitbike isnt doing it for me anymore. Obviously I'd like to save as much money as I can. the Stevens is the only one under 200€ from a reputable company. All the others are shitty German made bikes.
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>>1058954
For such a long commute I'd get something with modern hoods/drops and indexed shifting at least.
You have a job, don't be a cheapskate and get yourself a decent vehicle.
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Ordered Canyon Ultimate CF SLX frameset in jet silver - grey color. How badly did I fuck up?
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>>1058936
>decent, fairly slack looking geo
>6061 aluminum frame
>mostly shimano altus drivetrain
>sulane crankset?
>totem wheels?
>shimano dick brakes
you didn't fuck up too bad, that looks like a decent hardtail for crusing around or doing light trails
shimano altus isn't greate but isn't terrible either, it shouldn't explode on you or anything
the crankset is from a company i've never heard of, and will likely be shit, you may want to upgrade that
it could be a fine crankset though, you never know
the wheels are from their own brand, i have no idea if they'll be good or not
same goes for the saddle and bars, they'll probably be just ok

overall though, its an aluminum hardtail with disc brakes for $500 with, not too bad
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>>1058973
you didn't fuck up at all, that's a dope frame
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not really bike buying but a tip:
I just bought a roll of "silicone repair tape" (to protect my mtb chainstay). its the exact same thing that they sell as silicone bar wrap at half the price- $3.50 vs $9+
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I bought this for 300 euro without having a chance to check if everything works, but the seller says it does (had to get buy dad to pick it up since it's in a different city from where I live).

Did I fuck up?
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>>1059002
you overpaid, but you may not have fucked up since it could well be a nice bike to ride
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>>1059006
I think it's around the price or so for old Bianchis here in Sweden, the market is pretty empty. It's only slightly more expensive than old Crescent bikes, which are abundant on the Swedish market.
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>>1059002
>old bianchi
that's not a bad ride at all
should be pretty fun to fuck around on or commute
could also be used to train for road riding a bit
>300 euro
that's not crazy, that'd sell for like $250-350 freedom dollars
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>>1059010
It will be used for commuting to university, it's about 1km ride each way, and sometimes for 5-10km rides, mostly.

I really hope it's in good condition. The seller says it is, so I'll just have to trust him until I get it in about two weeks when my mum is visiting and brings the bike.
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>>1058908
Yeah I'm really liking the look of the brand. The shop is farther away than a lot of others available to me but the people that work there are by far the chillest I've met. No pressure and we just sat around chilling petting the guy's dogs and talking even after telling him I wasn't buying today.

I just don't have the dosh to get a $1600 bike right now. I'm new to biking so that's too steep for me in general. The 1k for the Charger is already higher than I wanted to spend because I'm not exactly flush with cash.
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>>1058906
I owned a 2001 Norco Charger for many years. It got stolen a while back and I miss it still.

Will probably get a new one next year.

It's just something about the geometry that makes it really easy to maneuver and comfy over long distances.
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>>1058295
what brands do you recommend and where to get one?
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>>1058982
thanks friend! my only yuge concern is that it weighs like 20kg or something. i don't think it should but you never know. i'll find out when i get there i guess. i have no problem with just saying "wow fuck this, refund please".
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>>1058847
Answer?
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newfag here, i got a shitty ass 240 dollar mongoose mountain bike. anything i should do with it? i want something to carry shit for my commute and riding but i have no idea what to do and have just been considering nigger rigging a milk crate to the handlebars with zip ties
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>>1059080
Get a rear rack and attack a milk crate with hose clamps
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>>1059095
>attack a milk crate
If only I had artistic abilities.
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Is this a good deal? I've always wanted something with aero handles.
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>>1059025
>it weighs like 20kg
Where did you read that? I highly doubt it weighs that much, probably closer to 15kg. I've had some of my bikes weigh up to 20kg at times so I know what it takes to make them that heavy, and a short travel aluminium hardtail isn't going to get there unless you fill the tyres with water.

>>1059075
It depends how much you ride. Have a look on the Fox site and you'll find recommendations for what should be checked, serviced, or replace after certain time periods.
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>>1059099
do it
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>>1059103
>It depends how much you ride. Have a look on the Fox site and you'll find recommendations for what should be checked, serviced, or replace after certain time periods.
Says once a year (which is expensive)

I had Marzocchi fork for at least 5 years and serviced them once.
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>>1059103
I didn't read it anywhere. They don't have the weight published at all, hence my concern that it weighs something like 20kg. I'll be ok with 15 or even 16 but once you get into 20kg trritory you might as well buy a Huffy for $200, and not pay $550
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>>1059099
Those aren't aero handlebars
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>>1059110
https://www.ridefox.com/fox_tech_center/owners_manuals/07/eng/service_intervals.htm

It doesn't need a yearly service. All it needs is a yearly/200 hour oil change, the bushings and dampers get changed when needed.

>>1059111
Like I said, there's no way that thing weighs 20kg.

To give you an idea of how much that actually is my 20kg bikes had an internally geared hub (Alfine 11) that adds about 1kg over a derailer drivetrain, very heavy burly wheels, tyres that weigh at least twice as much as the ones on that bike, and full suspension frames to boot.
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>>1058263
OP here, I went ahead and bought the Raleigh- should be here on Wednesday so I will see how it is then and report back. I imagine I won't be too disappointed for $680.

Here is the link to that specific bike if anyone is interested- https://www.raleighusa.com/tekoa-comp-2296. I am interested in seeing what the cranks actually are, the website does not say at all, but at least they are 2pc.
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>>1058908
Yeah I'm really liking the look of the brand. The shop is farther away than a lot of others available to me but the people that work there are by far the chillest I've met. No pressure and we just sat around chilling petting the guy's dogs and talking even after telling him I wasn't buying today.

I just don't have the dosh to get a $1600 bike right now. I'm new to biking so that's too steep for me in general. The 1k for the Charger is already higher than I wanted to spend because I'm not exactly flush with cash.

>>1059145
Please tell me what you think of it when you get it. That price + Free Shipping is extremely appealing.
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>>1059120
>Like I said, there's no way that thing weighs 20kg.
nah brah I picked it up and it weighs very little, probably somethig like 14kg, as my like Trek was 15kg and this doesn't seem quite there. and it has bigger wheel to boot.

also it's fast, and comfy, and i really love it! i normally take a 19.5" frame but went with 18" this time because the bigger wheels and it seems to fit me pretty well. putting a little too much weight on the handlebars but the next size up was 20" and that would be just too big methinks.

also the front derailleur's already fucked up (chain slipped off the bottom sprocket and jammed in the derailleur pulling the whole thing). i'm trying to retune it. >:|
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well, I've just broke my glasses. are there any cheap ones on aliexpres I should know about?
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>>1058956
While i agree with you l think this is a good value for commuting and just getting into the hobby without breaking the bank.
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Yo /n/,

I live in germany and want to buy a new, decent road bike for commutes, tours and training. Ideally with 28mm clearance and disc breaks for the odd dirt track between towns.

I'd like Tiagra/105 and non-shitty mechanical or even hydraulic brakes, but my budget is limited to 1200, preferably 1000€.

Are there models? I googled a bit and found pic related so far.
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>>1059254
now even with said pic.
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>>1058812

Any ideas? I want to put some fresh rubber on my bike this year, I have no idea how old they are. How much should I spend on tires? What do LBS normally charge to mount/install new tires?
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Can someone point to a decent but cheap flat shoe designed to be used on pegged flat pedals?
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>>1059405
Virtually any pair of Vans. Or knock-off no-name vans for even cheaper
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What do you faggots think about Bikes Direct?
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>>1059419
Can link?
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I have no idea what to look for in a bike

I weight 115kg, but I'm pretty active during summer with bicycle (About 100km/week).
I've used to buy old bikes, and my old one has had problems pedals making clunky noises and sometimes pedaling empty so fuck fixing that.
Urban
Summer+winter
I know fuck all maintaining newer bikes
I'm pretty poor, budget would be around 400-600
EU, Finland

So any recommendations? Like I said I know nothing about what's good or what's bad.
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>>1059564
pinkbike.com
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>>1059564
Definitely want used for that price. Try to find an aluminum hard tail from a reputable brand.
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>>1059564
Can't go wrong with a aluminium hardtail.
http://www.fillaritori.com/topic/94308-trek-29-x-cal-gary-fischer-collection-175-rungolla/

Or 90s MTB with semislicks
http://www.fillaritori.com/topic/93330-kona-kilauea-1995-26/

Or if you just want something easy for city that you don't have to worry about being stolen mummiska is always an option
http://www.fillaritori.com/topic/93827-tunturi-saint-28-mummopyörä/

Obviously since I don't know your size I can't actually say if those bikes are the correct size but something similar in your size would work fine. IGHs are a disaster in winter, especially cheap and used ones, so stay away from them if you can. Either a single speed or derailleur gears.
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http://www.kijiji.ca/v-road-bike/winnipeg/2013-bianchi-sempre-pro-ultegra-6800/1250605486
Some of these guys I swear
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https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/sutherland/bicycles/cannondale-supersix-with-shimano-105-groupset-size-58/1131992807

I'm 6'2 with the height mainly being in the legs and I want to go check this out, are there any quick guides out there for sizing a bike up so I can check it out and make sure I'm not gonna fuck my shit up riding this?
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>>1058327
look to see if you can qualify for anything on experticity.com , like 50% new bikes there.
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Should I buy this?
$320 on craigslist
Is my size
claims to be ridden only twice and comes with biking shoes my size
shimano 600
16 spd
I'm not sure if I should just save up until I have about 600 for a better bike or buy this now since I'm not THAT into bikes
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>>1059609
somebody answer
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>>1059791
Pretty solid bike for sub 500$ desu.
Maybe see if you can get it for 250 - 300 but that would be a wonderful first time bike from what I can see.
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>>1059794
Just google it man theres tons of guides/charts
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>>1059809
I forgot to ask about the bike too.

I see poeple online saying shit about buying carbon bikes second hand being a problem, is that just bullshit? it sounds like bullshit.
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>>1059811
Buying second hand carbon is perfectly fine as long as you check the bike carefully before buying it.

Red flags when buying second hand carbon
>any crash marks
>any part of the bike is repainted
>stickers that didn't originally belong to the frame
>any cracks in paint/lacquer
>any creaking when you ride it
>really old
Basically anything that indicates that the bike has been crashed is a big no no. I also wouldn't get a really old carbon bike that is bonded carbon/aluminium as they did have problems. Just go over the bike carefully and make sure that it doesn't have any suspicious marks on it.
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>>1059867
Question to all Carbon bike riders.

How the hell do you NOT crash your bike once in a while? I've dropped each one of my bikes at least twice, either in winter on icy roads or when a driver didn't see me, or when someone on a bicycle rode the bike path the wrong way while texting, with no lights at night...

You know, just commuter things.
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>>1059874
>how do you not crash your bike once in a while
>carbon bike riders
they only ride their good bikes in nice weather on the weekends
weekday commuting is still and will always be the relm of 90s rigid mtbs with slicks
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>>1059874
As anon already said the carbon bike is reserved for fair weather rides. Commuting is done on something that's cheaper and can better handle beatings.
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Sup buds.
I'm a roadie, just like op, and im trying to get into off road stuff. Mainly XC, so i need a hardtail with bretty good frame and ok fork for the money (budget's small as fuck - around 600$).
The catch is that i kinda need only popular brands for suggestions - i live and russia and i can't get vitus here, for example.

I want something that i can invest into, ya feel me? Change the fork, get the 1x11 system in the future possibly, so the 'best' part on it should be the frame.
I am a complete autist when it comes to xc bikes, so thank you guys in advance for your advices.
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>>1059891
Oh, also. i'm pretty short, my current xc bike is a 18" with 26ers, and i want to transition to 27.5, niners are too big for my liking.
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>>1059891
Honestly, at $600 the best part of the bike isn't going to be the frame. If you're just gonna go replacing the fork and drivetrain then you'd be better off getting a cheap or second hand frame and putting those bits on it from the beginning.
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Sup /n/

I'm looking for a decent commuter in London, UK. Budget is around 200-300 pounds, so obviously second hand. Basically needs to be able to fit a rack and mudguards, have drop handlebars, and not be aids- I'm ok to replace the chain and cables etc but don't want to have to replace the entire groupset immediately. Is this realistic?
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is this worth $15?
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>>1060026
depends on what scrap is going for- its not worth using for a bicycle
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>>1060026
I had one almost just like that, pic relates. I spoze it's worth $15 but it's a piece of schidt that isn't worth your time. Also almost nobody on the planet needs a soft tail, that thing's so hard to push it makes everything not-fun.

Fun Fax: My red shit soft tail Mongoose (pictured) was given to me by a guy i became friendly with in my apt building. He was moving back to Palestine and gave me his bike, because he knew I wanted one. Whelp he ended-up getting arrested at the airport on terrorism charges. I rode his schidty bike around a few more months until I get hit by a car and the frame and wheels bent like a potato chip. Fun times!
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>>1060026
No its a mongoose, you should get it for free
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>>1060026
Why are there disk brakes of the front tire and not the back, that makes no sense. You would want the better brakes in the back becasue you use it more. Also I had no idea that Walmart bikes had dick brakes yet
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>>1060292
If you're being serious then you really need to educate yourself.
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>>1060292
This pleb still uses rear brake even though it only provides 30% of,the stopping power
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What is a basic no nonsense road/sports bike with flat handlebars and 6 or so basic gears? As cheap as possible within reason.
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>>1060341
a used rigid mtb- put the front on the middle ring then throw away front shifter and mech. Add slicks if using on road.
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>>1060385
Am I doing it right?
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>>1060385
>throw away mech
>shift gears at the back
>drop chain
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>>1060707
fuck yeah nigga
slap some barends on there tho
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>want to start biking (right now to lose wait then commute and stuff)
>only rode a handful of times as a kid
>haven't for over a decade in a half
>try riding again
>can't keep balance for shit
>even after practicing for hours a day

Fuck I want to die. Is it ok to buy adult training wheels until I can keep balance myself? I'll only ride at night until I can keep balance.
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>>1060385
Where is the best place to find bikes like this besides craigslist?
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>>1060795
Yard sales, flea markets, swap meets
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>>1059404
Try some Panaracer Paselas, friend
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>>1060341
Raleigh Cadent
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Planning to get a Specialized Allez Elite. Does this seem like a good deal? https://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/bik/6071754382.html
I was planning on getting the 2017 model for $1000 but then this showed up. Is old Ultegra more or less the same as new Tiagra?
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Buying a Kona Rove AL to replace my shitty walmart mountain bike. Intentions are for general transit while being able to go over gravel. I've heard good things about Jake but it's double my intended budget.

Buying locally to get local benefits, which apparently exist according to the internet.
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>>1060841
Do you really need drop bars? For the same money but flat bars you could get a much better bike, for example the Eastway Flyback H2 has 9 speed Sora and hydraulic brakes but it actually over £100 cheaper.
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>>1060843
Not sure. I hear good things about them but I don't like the idea of being that hunched over when just transiting. If it makes me put less pressure on the bars so I can do turn signals properly, that's all I need when it comes to bars.
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>your new bike is delivered to work and everyone is curious of what's in the package
>have to wait until getting home to actually open the package
>tfw
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>>1059255

Hol dir das Giant defy disc. Fahre die Ltd. - version (=ultegra, aber ohne Scheibenbremsen) mit gleicher Geometrie. sehr angenehm zu fahren ubd trotzdem auch ner Bolzerei nicht abgeneigt...Probefahrt nicht vergessen
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>>1060879
Thanks Anon, I'll look into that. AFAIK the dealers in my town don't sell Giant bikes. Can you recomment maybe a larger storechain which also allows testing periods?
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>>1060895
http://www.giant-düsseldorf.de/de-DE/
http://www.store.giant-rottenburg.de/de-DE/
or:
https://www.giant-bicycles.com/de/stores
Most of the stores will let you drive around for awhile if you seem interested.
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>>1060852
drop bars + high-rise stem = COMFY
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>>1060910
And a normal stem with other multi position bars will be just as comfy whilst being more sensible and cheaper.

The whole point of drop bars is the hoods are the comfortable, maintainable position and the drops are less comfortable but offer an aero advantage. If you jack up the bars with a high rise stem so that the drops are comfy then you're doing it wrong.
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>>1060852
>that hunched over
lots of people set up their bikes with the bars way too low
sometimes if they're racing it makes sense because its more aero
but most of the time they just do it to look cool
if your stem has a good angle and you use a few spacers you can make drops super comfy
flat bars are never very comfy
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I'm 5ft11in about 205lb. I love in an area with a lot of good trails and I'm interested in getting into it for fun and fitness since I've just been spinning for a long while. I'd mostly be riding unpaved roads, paths, trails and with luck progressing to rougher stuff as u develop skills. Everything in my area is a hill. There is no such thing as flat.

I have a Norco dealer locally and I'm looking very closely at a Charger 9.2. Is this a good choice for the price range? The parts seem to compare really well vs others in the bracket.
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I havent owned a bike in over a decade, but now im moving out of my dumb small town to the twin cities, minnesota, and there's lots of things within biking range near my future house so I decided I want to invest in a bike as an alternative to driving everywhere.

But I dont know anything about bikes really. I just know I want a street/commuter bike (I hear them called "hybrid" bikes)

I went to Eric's and tried pic related out and was amazed how much better a good bike is

http://www.eriksbikeshop.com/specialized-2016-sirrus-base-fitness-bike/pr3e5319/product

What do you guys think of this? Is it overpriced? Are there better options for a prodigal son of cycling for city commuting?
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>>1061009
It's a good bike. The general recommendation here for all purpose commuting is a 90s rigid mtb with slicks. The sirrus is essentially that, but with the common road wheel size as opposed to the common mountain wheel size. The sirrus is not overpriced, but its expensive compared to a second hand bike. The sirrus like any new bike will be more a target for theft.
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>>1061012
>90s rigid mtb with slicks

Can you break down this jargon for me?

I mean I can guess what it means but I feel this is a good educational opportunity for me
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What are the advantages of a traditional bike helmet like pic related on the right over a "commuter" helmet or whatever its called on the left. Do you think it would be too hot? Does the one on the left offer as much protection?

Im asking because i think it looks a lot cooler than a traditional bike helmet lol but if its compromising quality id rather get the latter
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HALP BUDS THIS IS URGENT

>FOCUS WHISTLER EVO 27 2016
>520$
>new

Is it worth it? I wont to get into mtb, and i don't really want to buy used (had my fair share of fucked up experiences), found this one on some crazy local sale here. Are parts on it worth this much? I'm being a full retard that could just google this and decide this for myself, but im at work right now and i need to make the decision, like, right now.
So please, help me out, is it a good retail price? Thanks.
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>>1060302
surely it provides 0% in an emergency stop?
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>>1061023
Seems alright, not a super good deal but not overpriced either and it's a half decent bike. It certainly wouldn't be a bad decision to buy it.
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>>1061024
Are you a retard? Even a skidding wheel slows you down more than a freewheeling one.
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>>1061025
Well, taking into consideration that i live in fuck-all-nowhere, i would take that comment as 'it's really good'.
Bikes here are generally overpriced and hard to find.

So thanks, mate, you really helped me to make a decision.
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>>1061026
no I'm not a retard are you?

There should be no weight on the back wheel under max braking, assuming front wheel has infinite grip.
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>>1061033
But if there's no front brake (or it just isn't applied) the rear brake can still slow the bike down, even if it locks the wheel up completely.
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>>1061015
mountain bike technology has changed a lot recently, so older mountain bikes aren't worth much as mountain bikes
however, many of the old mountain bikes from the 90s are very well made and can be had for cheap
mountain bikes with suspensino tend to not age well because suspension requires lots of maintence, so early 2000s mtbs are mostly not rideable anymore
however, the mountain bikes from the early and mid 90s and late 80s had rigid forks, and last basically forever
they were also made out of chromoly, a type of steel, rather than aluminum like most modern entry level bikes, which makes them smooth riding and tough

90s rigid mtbs make great commuters if you throw semi-slick road tires on them
they can handle the shittiest roads without breaking a sweat
they're not super slow, and can be pretty comfy
and they look old and shitty so nobody tries to steal them
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>>1061017
the nut shell style helmet on the left does look cooler
if it has a cpsc sticker inside it then it offers plenty of protection, and pretty much every helmet is certified to that standard
the main issue is ventilation, and that's why traditional helmets look they way they do
if you live somewhere cold then the left is fine
but if its hot and you don't want to get too sweaty, just suck it up and wear a dorky helmet
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>>1061015
Sure. Mountain bike = mtb. Mtbs in their early years (mid 80s to mid 90s) typically did bit have suspension forks or tails. Rigid = no suspension and is usually preferable pavement. Mtbs come stock with knobby tires designed to work well in loose dirt. Slicks = tires without knobby tread. These bikes can often be found in great condition on craigslist for $100-200.
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>>1061043
>>1061044
>>1061045
Wow thanks friends for the great answer, i feel much more informed now.

Whatchu think about this bike? If I threw on semi slick wheels, how much worse would it be than the second Eric's link:

https://minneapolis.craigslist.org/ram/bik/6055893151.html

http://www.eriksbikeshop.com/specialized-2016-sirrus-base-fitness-bike/pr3e5319/product

Ive got enough money to buy either if the latter is clearly superior but if the old Trek would work just as well i have no reason to spend an extra $300 i guess

ALSO random question, what's that one cycling app that like records your distance and makes it into a game that everyone uses?
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new bike day soon, friendos
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>>1061068
>ALSO random question, what's that one cycling app that like records your distance and makes it into a game that everyone uses?
strava.

dont use strava, bro. friends dont let friends use strava.
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>>1061124
y tho? Im all about dumb apps that reward you for doing stuff you already do (ie Swarm/Foursquare)
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>>1061126
strava turns you into a fucking asshole
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The search continues for a better bike. Still have a 2012 scalpel alloy 4, but it's up against a 2015 Giant Anthem 3. With the same 1x drivetrain, Which one should be moving towards if I don't care about downhill runs?
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>>1061171
If they're the same price I'd go for the Giant for it's better fork and rear shock, plus being a few years newer probably means it'll go a bit longer without needing more money spent on it.
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>>1061068
>https://minneapolis.craigslist.org/ram/bik/6055893151.html
>1990 trek 7000
>bontrager tires
>black/green color scheme
that would make one fucking badass commuter
those old treks are built like a tank
its alu, not chromoly, but on an old mtb like that it'll still be strong as all fuck,
they overbuilt those like hell
that also means it won't be super heavy
also, the owner sounds like he knows his shit,
that means the bike will be in good shape

>threw on semi slicks
no need, the tires he has on there are already pretty much perfect for commuting
they're a bit heavy, but they're fat enough to handle shitty roads x1000,
no way you'll be getting any pinch flats and slick enough that they should roll well
i've heard lots of good things about botragers

>if the latter is clearly superior
its road component based not mtb based, so it'll be a bit quicker
probably won't be quite as tough
new components may require a bit less maintence at first
i always recommend that new commuters learn how to work on their own bikes too
old mtbs, especially with 3x7 drivetrains like that are very easy to work on
only thing that's a bit of a pain is adjusting canti brakes, but its not too hard
basically with the modern bike you have a bit more speed at cost of some toughness
the tires on the 90s rigid will be more comfy if you have bad roads too

>extra $300
its your money, but my rec is always to save some on the bike at first
you can always buy a new bike later, old rigids don't lose value unless you trash them
imo you're much better off saving $300 and spending $50 on a rack + fenders
and spending $100 on a nice pannier and saddle bag
fenders will keep your legs, shoes, and drivetrain clean and dry
a rack + pannier will get your work stuff off your back so you don't get sweaty
also, consider throwing some bar ends on there, they can make flat bars more comfy
and so that you don't get run over, buy a good headlight and tail light and always use them
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>>1061127
>strava makes you a dick
that's not strictly true, but it is always a possibility
if you just want to track mileage without the social bit
then mapmyride is pretty nice
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I got one of these pigs because it was on sale and I'd heard they're not too bad for a big box bike. What is the first thing that's likely to fail so I can have a better quality replacement lined up?
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Giant Contend SL2 Disc 2017 or Defy Disc LTD 2016?

Contend SL2 has Tiagra, their new, semi-hydraulic discs aaaand the newer frame, I suppose. around 9.5kg.

The Defy LTD has 105, Spyre-C mechanical discs and is about 9kg.
>>1060879
You like the defy, no?

I could get both for about 1100€ online. Are the conduct semi-hydraulics worth it or should I go for 105 and slightly lower weight? I have no experience with the new Tiagra, I just heard it's really good.
They are so similar I consider deciding by looks alone
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Looking for a lightweight fixed gear bike that I can carry groceries on.
Don't know too much about fixing bikes, so bonus points for simple maintenance. Also disc brakes
Budget is 400-500
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>>1061258
I would read some reviews on the Conduct brakes but assuming they're not junk I would go for the Contend. Hydraulic brakes feel so much better, perform better, and they automatically adjust for pad wear. Also the fact you can use any cable brifter with the Conducts is a huge bonus, not only does it save a shit load of money should you want to change them but it also saves money should the lever break (in a crash for example). Well worth the 500g increase in my opinion.
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>>1061264
>fixed
>disc brakes
>grocery bike
why though?
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>>1061274
Poorfag with a need to bike in wetter conditions. Hear that disc brakes are superior at stopping. Am I wrong?
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>>1061278
The people that buy fixies are not the same people that are concerned about sensible things like braking performance.
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>>1058263
90s rigid mtb
>>1058267
90s rigid mtb with semislicks
or
old ten speed road bike
>>1058285
90s rigid mtb
>>1058322
90s rigid mtb
>>1058323
nice bike
>>1058360
old ten speed road bike
>>1061264
90s rigid mtb with semislicks
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>>1061280
Admittedly I don't know much about bikes. My past bikes have all been pawn shop buys and been fixed by a group at my uni that does repairs for free.
I always stuck it on the highest gear and left it that way, so I figure why not get a fixie?
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>>1061283
>so I figure why not get a fixie?
The question should be, why get a fixie? If you don't want multiple gears then go single speed, fixies are just hipster garbage that are needlessly dangerous.
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>>1061009
>I went to Eric's
lol I work there. Btw you spelled Erik's wrong.
But anyway yeah, if buying new, the Sirrus is your best option from Specialized (which is the main brand carried by Erik's). Similar bikes from other companies will be similar in quality and price. If you're trying to go new and cheap, you could try to find a Kona Dew. It's similar to the Sirrus but the base model is a few hundred dollars cheaper. Kona dealers in the Twin Cities area include Behind Bars (Minneapolis), Michael's Cycles (Chaska and Prior Lake locations), Grand Performance (St Paul), and The Alt (Minneapolis). You'd be happy with the Sirrus, Dew, or anything similar.
Btw, be careful with the term hybrid. It's a very broad term. Bikes like the Sirrus and Dew are classified as hybrids and they're great bikes, but there's also pretty terrible bikes ('comfort bikes', beach cruisers, etc) which some people refer to as hybrids.

>>1061017
Safety will be about the same, only difference in that regard is if one fits your head better and/or provides more coverage. The only substantial differences are that some people prefer the aesthetics of 'commuter' helmets, and that 'regular' helmets are better ventilated and therefore more comfortable and less hot. I used to wear the kind you're referring to as a commuter helmet, it was fine, but I would never go back to that kind just because it's not as comfortable.
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>>1061015
Other guy pretty much covered it. Rigid 90s mtb with semislicks (semislicks, NOT slicks) is an excellent option for short and medium distance commuting, especially (not not exclusively) if your commute involves rough roads, gravel, etc or if you'll be commuting during winter. If you'll only be commuting during spring/summer/fall, and only on well-paved roads, then an old ten speed (the road bike equivilent) is a good option.
In either case (80s/90s mtb, or 70s/80s/90s ten speed road bike), you can find great deals on them, only downside is that you're buying used, so there's a chance you'll have to adjust and/or replace a lot of parts. Helps if you know what to look out for (worn drive train components, worn tires, etc) before buying, and know that you'll probably at least have to replace the chain and make some adjustments. It's worth it though. They ride great, and like other anon said, they're old so not appealing to thieves. I have 5 bikes, including a modern carbon road bike (which would retail for ~$5,000) and a modern carbon enduro mountain bike. I ride my 80s steel road bike (which I paid $175 for) more than my other four bikes combined.
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>>1061285
I'm confused. I thought single speeds were fixed gear?
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>>1061288
No, a fixed gear bikes is one where you can't freewheel/coast, the rotation of the cranks is fixed to the rotation of the rear wheel, one can't spin without the other.
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>>1061068
>Whatchu think about this bike? If I threw on semi slick wheels, how much worse would it be than the second Eric's link:
That bike already has semislicks on it. He clearly already re-purposed it for commuting.
It wouldn't be worse, just different.
Basically:
Advantages of the Trek:
>steel, so it will ride really nicely/comfortably, and is durable as fuck
>old, so thieves won't pay much attention to it
>while good for commuting, it's still a mountain bike, so if you get a second set of tires to swap out, you can mountain bike on it too (Twin Cities has some awesome mountain bike trails, btw; check out Theodor Wirth, Minnesota River Bottoms, etc)
>it's an old bike so has more standardized/universal components, will be easier to find replacement parts for pretty much anywhere, and easy to do repairs yourself
>you're new to cycling, you don't necessarily know what you want yet; you might decide a few months or a year from now you want something different, a road bike perhaps; by going with the Trek, you're not out as much money if you decide in a few months you want something completely different
Advantages of the Specialized:
>due to geometry, weight (aluminum is lighter than steel), etc, it will be a bit faster on pavement
>700c wheels rather than 26", which isn't *necessarily* superior, but people generally like the bigger (700c) wheels more for pavement riding
>new, so it won't need to have parts replaced or anything adjusted
>free 1 year of adjustments from Erik's
You'd be happy with either one. If you are up to replacing and adjusting some parts on the Trek, especially if you'd like to figure out how to do it yourself (there's great tutorials on sheldonbrown.com parktool.com), then I'd go with the Trek. If you don't want the hassle of that and want something with no adjustments or replacements needed, then I'd go with the Specialized.
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>>1061288
All fixies are single speeds, but not all single speeds are fixies.
Single speed: Bicycle with only one chainring and only one rear cog.
Fixie: Single speed bicycle without a freewheel/freehub.
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>>1061009
>>1061286
>is a few hundred dollars cheaper.
Correction: I didn't realize the base Sirrus is only $500, I thought they were like $700. (I work at Erik's but I'm a mechanic, not a salesguy, I don't pay attention to prices) I think the cheapest Dew is like $400, or maybe even $500. So not much difference. If you have a chance, might as well test ride a few bikes and see what you like most.
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>>1061272
Only more differentiated one I found was
"The bite of the brakes is a little wooden feeling but once engaged the modulation was smooth and consistent, and total power was just right. Forceful and confidence inspiring without throwing you over the bars if you grab a fist full of brake in a panic."

Sounds decent enough, although I remember a video in which some guy said the Spyre-Cs are pretty good brakes and he wouln't bother as much. I see your point though
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>>1061289
>>1061291
Oh! Ok. So what's a decent single speed that would fit my needs?
Preferably something very easy to get a hold of (like mailed to my apt complex to be put together or whatever)
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>>1061294
I assume you're the guy from the previous posts. I would encourage you to consider not going single speed. Having gearing is very beneficial. If you want something just for commuting, carrying groceries etc, get a 90s rigid mtb, and put semislicks on it. You can get one for $100-$200 on Craigslist.
>(like mailed to my apt complex to be put together or whatever)
So you have other people do your repair work as you said in a previous post, yet you want to build the bike yourself...? Something doesn't add up.
And assuming it was you asking about disc brakes before, yes they're a bit better, but rim brakes are fine too. I wouldn't avoid going with an old bike (i.e. 90s rigid mtb) just because it doesn't have disc brakes.
I think 90% of /n/ will agree with me that if you want a bike just for grocery shopping, get a 90s rigid mtb, throw on semislicks and a rear rack with panniers. When you're riding up a hill with panniers full of groceries, you'll really appreciate the lower gearing available.
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>>1061282
this guy knows his shit
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>>1061295
>tfw flatlands of florida
single. speed. Probably the reason I never change gears and leave it on the highest.
>Something doesn't add up
Well I know they can't send me a fully assembled bike in the mail, and I'm not opposed to learning some stuff. Can't drive out to nearest bike store to get it that way
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>>1061283
>I always stuck it on the highest gear and left it that way
you are going to destroy your knees doing that
learn how and when to shift
read sheldonbrown.com/gears.html
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>>1061294
>mailed to my apt complex to be put together
>>1061299
>not opposed to learning some stuff
please for your own good at least take it to a bike shop to have them check it over before you ride it
even a brand new bike there's always some adjusting/tweaking to do to get it going
if you don't know enough about bikes to know better than getting a single speed you need to get your assembly checked over
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>>1061299
If you build it yourself, you're going to need a lot of tools. And you'll probably do stuff wrong if you have no experience, which will result in your bike falling apart while you're riding.
Just go to a bike shop and get a geared bike. Trust us. I promise it's in your best interest.
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>>1061123
Lol @ ur gear ratio
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>>1060237

I love me some bendy potatochips
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I'm looking for a bike to commute and do groceries with. I'm currently using an old specialized crossroad and it's perfect but I started using it during the winter and it's taking quite a beating. Honestly I could just buy a new one for non-winter uses but it seems expensive ($600) for what I do with it. I just need something reliable with rack mounting points. I'm in Canadistan if it matters.
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so I'd like to get into trail riding and maybe progress to something like enduro.

however right no I'm on a terrible budget so I could build something outdated with outdated ebay parts.

I cam across a cube stereo 2008 frame that I could get for a fair price and that I could build around.
26" wheels with qr in the back and straight 1 1/8 forks.

is this stupid ?
is it allright ?

should I just wait for half a year or something until I have a job ( just graduated) and buy something nice and proper then ?

...it's the last one, isn't it ?
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>>1061831
just take it in for service or maybe rebuild it yourself ?
brand name 90's hybrids are worth saving and the parts will be dirt cheap.
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>>1062006
>get into trail riding
>maybe enduro
you don't need fs to get started or possibly ever
fs is really only good for downhill
just find a beat up old alu hardtail on craigslist
or maybe buy a 90s rigid
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>>1062006
If you have the skills to build the bike, the knowledge to check second hand parts, and the skills and time to possibly service some parts (or you're willing to learn, or you could just pay someone else to do it), then there's nothing wrong with doing what you're wanting to do. It's what I've always done and it saves a shit load of money, I've built a bike for around £1k that 6-7 years ago would've cost probably 3 times that.

>>1062009
>hurdur suspension frames can't climb
Don't listen to this meme spewing idiot.
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>>1062013

nice !
I'm confident in my bike skills, FS would be a novum to me but I'm eager to learn more.

the FS is part of the apeal to me in this project, I had a nice light xc bike that I built up and I'm sure that I don't necessary need rear suspension but I feel like trying it out.
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>>1062016
Full suspension is a huge benefit, not only does it allow you to go faster on rough stuff which is more fun but it's also safer.

With that specific frame it doesn't look like there's anything preventing crap coming off the rear wheel and hitting the rear shock. If this is the case make sure you get a decent photo of the shock or have a look at it in person and if there are any rock chips in the stanchion either avoid it or factor in the cost of a replacement shock. Have a look at getting one of those shock boot covers for it. Even if it isn't chipped it will probably need a service just from getting covered in dirt, if it hasn't had one recently. It's a fairly easy, quick, and cheap thing to do, just pulling the shock apart and replacing a couple seals and lubing it up.
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>>1062017

great , I'll look into it !
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>>1061613
you wanna point me at a 46 or better chainring compatible with FSA Comet 386 go right ahead, otherwise you're gonna have to wait for the fall rebuild.
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Looking for bike buying advice. Original bike budget was 1000 or so. I was looking for a bike for a work commute (20/30min city either way) and also for long rides on weekends out of the city(6hours max, probably more like 4). I also wanted it to have holes for panniers and a rack on the back. I figure cyclocross or touring given that requirement.

I'm about 5ft10in so I figure 54 is probably about right size wise. I tried a 52 and a 56 at the shop, 52 was small enough that it sort of hurt to ride, 56 felt big but much nicer.

I went to my local bike shop and the guy there suggested a Fuji cross 1.7, which I felt was expensive for my original budget, given that I want to updgrade with things like a rack, fenders, and new pedals (eventually going to get riding shoes). I had originally seen a Masi CX 2017 on their site for 939, but they were not convinced of it's quality. I can expand my budget, but I want to have a good bang for buck if I am paying more, something that lasts somewhat. Buying from the local shop is nice because free lifetime service and maintenance and fitting. What do?
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>>1062076
Any suggestions or things I should be looking at? Pls respond
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>>1062076
>>1062186
If the Masi you're looking for is the one with Claris rd and front triple with shitty FSA cranks I'd avoid it like the plague desu. The Fuji has thru axles, 105 and is overall much better bike and I can guarantee you'll enjoy riding it a lot more than the Masi.

As for sizing 54 is probably what you want to buy size wise. Obviously all geometries aren't created equal and what size you end up needing can depend slightly on the bike. However you probably can't go terribly wrong with a 54 on any bike. And most people can make 2 or 3 frame sizes work for them.

If you do your riding in city and paved roads you want to buy some slicks if the bike doesn't come with them. 30 - 35 mm slicks will improve your ride massively. And they can easily eat up the occasional gravel road if you happen to stray out of the paved path sometimes.
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>>1062076


dude the fuji has a oval concept crank and praxisworks chainring.
that's enough to convince me over a fsa tripple crank.
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>>1062221
>>1062190
OK thanks for the advice. I was worried about the extra cost and that the Fuji 1.7 cross was about 200 more in store than on performancebike, but I think if they are wiling to help me service and stuff, and that the bike is really nice, I suppose I can swing the extra money for a 1400 base + other stuff. Thanks for the advice.
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I'm looking at a bike for commuting in London, UK, as well as a second function as a general winter training/fun bike. I've found a second hand Kona Jake 2010 for £250- I think it's a full Tiagra groupset, cantilever brakes. It has everything I need in terms of rack and mudguard mounting, hard wearing decent quality frame, and will fit 28mm tyres for winter as well. Only thing I'm thinking is maybe it's asking a bit too much, should I try and bring down the price a bit?
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I can import a Merida Scultura 4000 for 2.800 USD in a 3rd world country suffering inflation. Will I fuck up ? Other bike available are Scott Speedster and a fucking 8k Addict 20 CX.
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>>1058339

>wanting CZ's and bikes at the same time

damn I know dat feel, anon. SP01 sexy.
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>>1062186
Surly cross check. Don't buy from performance bikes. They are barely more qualified than Wal-Mart to sell a bike. 54cm cross check
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>>1062406
this or Evo has Traitor completes on sale right now and the Ruben comes in not-celeste fuckin' green
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Planning on picking up one of these bikes tomorrow.

http://www.feltbicycles.com/USA/2016/Bikes/road/race/FR/FR40.aspx

https://www.specialized.com/us/en/men/bikes/road/performance/allez-e5-elite/115475

Any of you guys have any opinions on Felt or Specialized? They seem similar enough that I probably won't be able to tell a difference after test riding them.
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>>1062438
that spesh is straight garbage compared to the felt if for no other reason than the felt has internal cable routing.

if it were my money, i'd buy the felt without a second thought.
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I'm looking for a decent folding bike for my commute, so I need something that'll fold up nice and small.

Budget: $300
Height: 6'3"
Weight 220lbs
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>>1062958
Being 6'3" and 220lbs is going to severely limit any choices

Most folding bikes are made for Asians you sure you want one?
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>>1062979
well i'm going to lose weight by using it, but the reason I want a folding bike is so i can take it indoors. I don't feel comfortable leaving it chained up outside
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trying to dice on the next buy, it's gonna be new, and i want it to be carbon. I'm looking currently at Specialized Roubaix Comp and Masi Vivo Quattro, both have 105, what would you pick and why? or why not and what instead?
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>>1062993
I would recommend a Brompton if you have the money, folds better and smaller than anything out there that you can consider rideable as a bike
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Couple of roadie friends got cheap mountain bikes. Looking for something under $80 to join them, don't know anything about mountain bikes.

had my eye on these
https://inlandempire.craigslist.org/bik/6083984181.html
https://inlandempire.craigslist.org/bik/6082886032.html (should that fork be painted like that??)

pic related i'm missing out
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>>1063599
Neither of those are worth buying, in fact no $80 "mountain bike" is. Save up like 5 times that at least.
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>>1063599
Yes, that fork should be painted like that.

So you see at first glance that it's non-functional and shouldn't be taken on a trail.
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Just picked this up as a first road bike, did I do okay?
I'm 5'7" btw.
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>>1063702
>did i do okay?
mostly yes, that's a good deal for < $300
its a generic-ish entry level alu roadbike with some tiagra components
you may want to replace that crankset, ive never even heard of the brand
also mavic wheels are questionable
everything looks ok though, and it should ride pretty well
given that it comes with lights and a computer, that's a good deal
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>>1063707
Truvativ is a Sram sub-brand, mostly entry-level parts
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>>1063599
Don't get either of those. At that price range, you'll have to go with an 80s or 90s rigid (no suspension) if you don't want shit.
If you want something with suspension, that means getting something more modern (old mtbs with suspension are shit) and also paying a LOT more. In which case check pinkbike.com/buysell
You can get a decent 80s-90s rigid mtb for around $100-$150. Though expect to have to likely replace a few parts (tires, chain, brake pads, etc)
Make sure to get the right size too
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>>1062449
Internal routing is a meme on anything but high end race bikes. It just makes the bike more difficult to work on.
>>1062076
Masis tend to be fairly low end, I believe. For sizing, https://www.ebicycles.com/bicycle-tools/frame-sizer
Assuming you want drop bars, consider Salsa Vaya, Surly Straggler, and Kona Jake. The Vaya is the most fun to ride out of those three imo, but if possible, test ride them all.
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>>1061831
Crossroads is a shit tier bike. Consider these instead. (not positive if they all have rack mounts, check to be sure)
Kona Dew Plus
Trek FX
Specialized Sirrus
Cannondale Bad Boy
Giant Escape
Salsa Vaya
Surly Straggler
Kona Jake
If you want something cheaper, get an old ten speed road bike or a rigid 80s-90s mountain bike (if you get the latter, swap the tires for semislicks). Either one can be had on Craigslist for $100-$300, but you'll likely have to replace a few parts (tires/tubes, chain, brake pads, cables/housing, cassette/freewheel, chainrings, bearings, derailleurs; you probably won't have to replace all these things, but might have to replace some).
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LBS has a 2016 Tokul 3 for $899

Good deal?
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>>1063753
no it's just Srams controls brand, and they even have black box and pretty decent carbon parts.
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>>1064474
it's an alright bike for the price.
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Giant Contend SL2 Disc: Opinions? Is it good for its price (1100€)? Alternatives?
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Sitting on my bike gives me excruciating pain in my inner thighs near my ass cheeks. Is it the seat or or is it my posture or whatever? The pain is felt immediately upon riding.
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Hey /n/ need some help.

I'm upgrading... everything on my crappy Vilano bike. I got the bulk of the bottom bracket out - turns out it wasn't sealed? Just a skewer with some ball bearings.

But there's the plate on the other side that I can't for the life of me remove.

Any advice or experience?
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>>1064556
Picture 2
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>>1064556
That's what a Normal old school bottom bracket looks like. There should be a plastic sleeve in there too
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>>1064490
The Truvativ components for road bikes are pretty shit.

I have a stripped out (at the square taper removal tool threads) for a 53/39

Which is a direct upgrade to that posters 3 speed.

But Truvativ cranks are pinned not bolted together so I can't get these chain rings off.

It came on a Gavin road bike now rebranded vilano and sold on Amazon
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>>1064560
I didn't see anything plastic... I feels like a cap, and I can SEE threads, but it won't budge.
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>>1063599
Where in the IE are you located? My buddy has a kona up for sale for a few hundred
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>>1064562
If it's the drive side the cup is reverse threaded.

It's probabljust seized if you're doing everything right.

It's just an old vilano frame though. How many hours do you want to struggle with it before you decide the components you're putting on it are more valuable than the bike as a whole


Probably time to give it up ya know
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>>1064564
I know that's the right answer, but it's not the one I'm going with. Sentimental value is a mother fucker.
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>>1064564

Fuck failure, hooray for being the greater fool.

Filed a slot, jammed a chisel in, and twisted it with a wrench and hammer.
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>>1064568
Damn, good job!
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Lads I'm in UK and i'm a NEET who will start working soon. Commuting to my new work on foot takes 40 mins, it's not too bad since it's just like commuting to school back in the old days which also took 40 mins except I don't have friends to walk with.

I'm taking driving lessons and I'll probably get my license and car by the end of summer so I need a bike for the time being to speed up the commute.

I don't have a lot of money being a former NEET so I'm essentially just looking at Road/Hybrid bikes on Gumtree to get for under £100. Question is what other supplies do I need??

Helmet, what's a good but cheap brand?
Lock, good but cheap?
A high visibility vest I guess, and what else?
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>>1064677
kys before you become one more cager we have to deal with
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>>1064699
you seem frustrated
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>tfw got this for trips to work and slow rides around the city
http://www.megamo.com/en/bicycles/noname

I guess it's a bit overpriced for what it is (steel frame, single-speed etc.) but I like how minimal it looks.

What do you think, lads?
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>>1064717
It's overpriced garbage for clueless fucks such as yourself
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where the hell do you even buy a half decent bike?

I live in a smallish town we don't even have our own craigslist/kijiji
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>>1064761
The same way you buy even a half decent bride. By mail order.
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>>1064763
The shipping would probably be half as much as the bike.

I would go into the bikeshop, but I have no clue about bicycles and I feel like I could get gouged pretty easily.
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Would these be good deals, as I dont want to spend 1000€ on a bike that might get stolen, because I leave it at the foot of the mountain? Would be first and foremost getting to the alps (50km to get there and not much uphill) for camping and hiking.

Maybe later for longer distance travel like eastern or southern europe.

What can you tell me about Ortler?

I'm 183cm, but I can choose any size I need so thats no concern
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>>1061258
In exactly the same boat as you man. Same budget and looking at the same bikes, plus the Contend SL2. I think I'll be going for one of the disc variants though.
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I'm looking for a mountain bike for fitness and fun. Some rough pavement, trails and singletrack. I don't think I'll ever get into downhill and such, and if I do I'll probably buy a more advanced bike.

My budget right now is about $1000 so I'm looking at hardtails. I'd like to buy new. I'm not knowledgeable enough on bikes to spot problems in a used one.

I have a wide variety of bike shops locally (Austin) so I can get just about any brand. Some people have recommended Norco for giving the best bang for your buck but I'm still pretty open. My closest bike shop seems to have good deals on Scott. Any recommendations on model/brand for value/what I plan to ride?
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I've only owned cheap mountain bikes and was thinking of getting a hybrid bike. Yay/nay?

https://www.dickssportinggoods.com/p/nishiki-adult-anasazi-hybrid-bike-16nisanshknsz15xxdsb/16nisanshknsz15xxdsb?&color=White
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Can you guys help me find some cheap shoes that are designed for a flat pedal?

I'm in Canada.

LBS wants $200
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What's a good dx/alibaba/ebay headlight ?
The one I use currently has the older style LEDs not the newer SMD ones, so it's very dim.
Picture unrelated.
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What do you guys know about Papillionaire?

I am thinking of buying their classic bike to commute about 2 miles a day around my campus.
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>>1065653
I don't know what postage would be like if you're not in the UK but I have one of these and it's great, especially for the price.

http://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/LIJOMNSU/jobsworth-asterion-usb-rechargeable-front-light
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I want to get into mountainbikes. I think this bike is really sexy. What do you guys think? Recommend any bikes? (budget €450, h 1.80, w 78)

https://link.marktplaats.nl/m1157720239
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>>1065662
That's a decent bike and a very good one for the price. Sizing should be pretty spot on.
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I'm thinking about getting a salsa timberjack from REI because of that sweet 1 year no questions asked return policy. I'm thinking I'll probably return it in 6 months or so and get my money back then use the money to trade up into a 1500 or so + bike, maybe a full squish.

Is this a smart or dumb plan?
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>>1065668
Sounds immoral Tbh.
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>>1065670
Hey, if your super good return policy is your primary selling point compared to a LBS, you'd better be ready for people to return shit.
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>>1058263
Is there any reason to pick between Look vs Bianchi aside from physical appearances?
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>>1064793
A bike specced like that, whatever brand, sure will be good for
>50km to get there and not much uphill

but you don't want to take it on
>longer distance travel

Out of these two, the little pricier one is probably worth the price difference, because hub dynamo, nicer shifters, nicer rack and looks like a better derailleur too
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>>1064717
>>1064720
>overpriced
>249£
That's just what these go for, you can't really get anything fancier for that money. Cheapest fixies on cro-mo frames are 400 upwards.

>>1064677
>Lock, good but cheap?
No such thing. Just buy a Kryptonite/ABUS
>Helmet
Can go all out cheap here. Any cheap one from a supermarket will protect you fine. Might be fugly and less comfartable though.
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I don't know about buying, but I just sold this one for $100, from the 70s maybe, sears free spirit
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>>1065698
That's the blackest bicycle I've ever seen
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>>1065645
help? i dont know what im looking for
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>>1065843
The fantastic thing about flat pedals is you can use whatever footwear you want. Do you already have a pair of trainers? Most people do, use them.
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>>1065843
There are a handful of brands that make stiff soled shoes for flat pedals. A lot of them are sold as mtb or bmx shoes. Fiveten make some that look alright.

"Cheap" and "marketed to cyclists" don't usually go together though.
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>>1065861
>>1065875
What do you think about these guys?

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/ca/en/five-ten-freerider-mtb-shoes-2017/rp-prod136375
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>>1065912
Got a pair of nice stiff shoes from my buddy for $40

Can't beat that.
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>>1061250
your dignity
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is surly the best choice for buying a new steel frame bike?
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I'm looking for a bike to commute between work and home and occasionally around the city center. I've been looking at this one:

https://www.fahrrad.de/serious-cedar-hybrid-herren-hybrid-schwarz-matt-406648.html

Is it any good? My budget is around 500 euros, feel free to recommend a good commute bike for me.
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What's the easiest way to spot a decent buy? I'm looking to pick up a mountain bike on eBay in the £200-250 range.

I'm really not sure which site is a good judge of quality of I see something decent and search for a review.

What are the top 2 or 3 budget brands and models?
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>>1066132
Where you at (postcode) and how far are you willing to travel? I'll have a quick look for you, the trouble is not many people post bikes especially at such a low price.
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ah shit, maybe this is the place to ask...

im looking for a triathlon style frame for sale/trade. I have a Giant SLR Advanced 51/54 CM frame (it was listed as 54 but measures 51) up for sale/trade i guess

i dont know if trades like this ever happen, or if they did, where they would happen, so any info is appreciated. I just want to see what my options are, really.
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What's the least expensive full suspension mtb that is actually worth buying? My area is so rocky it makes riding a hardtail feel like I just spent a year as a Thai ladyboy in prison.
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What does /n/ think of this bike for general riding and commuting? Cannondale CAADX 2011 with 105 and cantilever brakes, upgraded wheelset as well- decent?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/cannondale-road-bike-/172629664067?hash=item283187a143:g:lBsAAOSw5UZY9LGS
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>>1066297
This was a hard question for me to answer, all my go-to places for buying bikes (CRC, Wiggle, Tredz, even Halfords) don't sell full suspension bikes any cheaper than about £800. I had a look through Amazon where there's plenty of shitters for only a few hundred and the absolute cheapest bike that I would even consider riding is the Ferrari CX60 for £550 (down from £2000 apparently, that's comical), next up from that is the Torpado Ribel T530 for £670.

That said I would never buy either of those bikes (well, if I had a shit load of cash I'd get the Ferrari just for a laugh), for that money I'd get a much better second hand bike or build up my own with some second hand parts.
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>>1066314
Honestly I could spend up to 1400 or so theoretically. I'm looking used in my area but nothing yet worth buying.
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>>1066318
Well with that sort of budget you don't have to worry if a bike is worth buying, anything over about £800-900 will be a good bike worth considering and the best online stores to buy from probably won't have anything cheaper. If you want to buy from a local store their prices will probably be higher so compare them with online ones.

Used bikes are going to be a lot more complicated due to the varying age, anything less than about £400 probably isn't worth considering and that's gonna be stuff that's about a decade old and anything older than perhaps 5 years is going to at least want the rear shock serviced (pretty cheap and easy to do), the fork is a bit more expensive and complicated to do but they also have more robust seals and if it's a coil fork the sealing doesn't have to be perfect. Also be wary of pivot bearings in the frame, if they're worn you might hear a knocking sound if you lift the bike by the saddle and they'll be side to side movement between the front triangle and swingarm (not flex, you won't need to use much force to get it to move).
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>>1060026
>>1060237
Wal-Mart bikes with rear suspension designs like that are bad. The pivot kind is probably less prone to breakage or frame failure but stay away. The pedaling is less efficient too. I had one when I was 13 and I made the rear suspension as stiff as possible to try to counteract that until I got an aluminum hardtail bike. Department store rigid/hardtail bikes are still heavy but the frames hold up.

>>1061015
Very old mountain bikes have a more road-style geometry making them good commuter bikes. Modern MTBs are still decent commuters but usually have front suspension and very slack geometry (sloping top tubes) designed for serious off-roading.

>>1061287
I've been trying to commute on my OTS (1987 Schwinn) for a while but there are too many gravel/off-road/mud aspects to many commutes I take. It is a good bike to take on the bike trail though.

>>1061264
If you want the "brakeless fixie" look, consider a coaster brake bike. It is more reliable than fixed gear skidding, allows coasting, and gives a cable-free fixie-style look. It doesn't have to be a beach cruiser, you can get upright 700c commuter-style bikes with coaster brakes also.

>>1061278
In wet weather, yes. My disc brake MTB is mostly unaffected by water on the rims. My old 10 speed has alloy rims, but still brakes much worse in the wet. Coaster brakes are 100% unaffected by wet conditions, but they only stop the rear wheel, which is slower than braking from the front.
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Getting my uncle's Balance AL-150 fixed up. Gonna take it out next week and see how banged up I get, haven't ridden a bike in a good decade or so.
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Please help me decide between these three bikes. I'm looking for a flat bar commuter and general bike for cyclepaths, towpaths with a bit of gravel/mud.

https://www.evanscycles.com/bmc-alpenchallenge-ac02-alivio-2017-hybrid-bike-EV273285

https://www.evanscycles.com/cannondale-contro-2-2016-hybrid-bike-EV297609

https://www.evanscycles.com/saracen-hack-2017-hybrid-bike-EV289703

The Cannondale is 40% off but is also a discontinued model and so might be hard to find the proprietary parts (fenders, rack, etc) at a later date.
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How tight is 40Nm? I don't have a torque wrench, so how I can get to that amount of tight?

Also, what's the biggest frame size for 80s/90s mtb? The biggest I can find is 50cm. Will that fit me without looking too small? (185cm tall)
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>>1066546
(100/x)*4=y
x=length of your wrench in cm
y=amount of weight in kg that you need to hang from the end of the wrench, you could also use luggage/bike weighing scales and pull on them until it reaches that amount. For example a 50cm wrench would require an 8kg weight.
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Is there anything better for ~1200€ available in europe? There are almost no used bikes for my size.
Im leaning towards 1000€ radon, but the only problem is m30 fork. Which one would u /n/iggers get?

https://www.bike-discount.de/en/buy/radon-zr-team-8.0-582341/wg_id-117
https://www.bike-discount.de/en/buy/radon-zr-race-29-6.0-582396/wg_id-117
https://www.canyon.com/en-ee/mtb/grand-canyon/grand-canyon-al-sl-8-9.html
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>>1066598
What don't you like about the M30? Specs and features are similar to the Fox 32 and weight is comparable. That does however mean that most of the 650g weight saving on the more expensive Radon comes from the wheels (everything else is identical) and that's quite a significant amount that I'd say is worth the price increase. However, the Canyon has pretty much identical specs for the same price except for the fork and I would go for that simply because it has remote lockout on the fork.
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>>1066614
I just couldnt find any decent reviews about m30, online store reviews about lower end airforks are usually unadequate.
Unfortunately canyon sale ends tonight and im not capable of getting it before the deadline, 1400€ will be too much.
Theres one more canyon model, but extra 200 for a better fork and wheelset but worse groupset seems too much, might aswell go for more expensive radon.
https://www.canyon.com/en-ee/mtb/grand-canyon/grand-canyon-al-sl-7-9.html
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>>1066624
Better wheels are a pretty big deal. Deore to SLX doesn't really matter, even XT isn't a huge upgrade and is mostly about less weight. What is quite different is that Canyon is 10 speed where as the Radon is 11 so it gives you that extra 40t in the rear, however if you're going to keep the double it doesn't really matter as 26:36 is going to be low enough.

So, once again I would say it makes sense to pay a bit extra for better wheels so the choice would be between the Canyon at €1200 or the Radon at €1300 and I'd go for the Canyon, €100 saved and you get a remote lockout fork. I just don't think the €200 saved with the cheaper Radon is enough to give up the remote and have worse wheels, plus the fork likely won't be as good.
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>>1066633
Thanks for the input
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https://victoria.craigslist.ca/bik/6082970994.html

This seems like a good deal for a starter road bike, no?
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Either of these worth it for a daily commute around town?

https://www.dirtbike.ro/bazar/bicicleta-mtb-diamond-back-anii-90-340514

https://www.dirtbike.ro/bazar/mtb-taifun-austria-shimano-21-viteze-341700

https://www.dirtbike.ro/bazar/mtb-ktm-de-26-343633
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What's the cheapest road bike /n/ would recommend?

No 90s rigid w/ slicks, I mean like actual road bike




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