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At exactly which year did cycling aesthetics take a sharp downward spiral?
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>>1090194
the year Queen Victoria died
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I now understand the UCI
They're not giving a shit about speed or anything is to make sure the riders don't look too dumb.
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Helmets became mandatory in 2003 or so after someone FUCKING DIED so maybe that has something to do with it
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>>1090194
About 95 here, when 21 speed hybrids took the market over.

It was what ever the model was shimano - an affordable 3 sprockets front / 7 back freewheel casette, with various types of shifters. Judging from todays fleamarket availability, derailleur bikes weren't rare before that, but the baseline was still either 3/5 speed internally geared hub (1/2 chain) or 5/6 speed rear derailleur (3/8 chain), front derailleurs were for the "cyclists".

See the pic, every other 90s kid had a bike like this, either this or the 7 speed nexus hub.
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Forgot the pic.
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>>1090226
Fuck shimano, seriously.
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>>1090236
>first good indexed shifters
>invented brifters
>first good electronic shifters in Di2

yeah nah

shimano a goat
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It was a major change in in the bicycle marked and -culture, when the hybrids struck trough. And why wouldn't it have been, after all, a wholly new product class entered the marked, that's what I'm saying.

Before, it was either heavy frame rugged utility bikes, let's calle them "commuters" with very simple transmissions, and then there "touring" and "road" bikes witch both had either 10 or 12 speed transmission (range optimized for intended use).

This is what hybrid means, bringing the expensive-deluxe road/tour (disregarding the fact that the major commuter bicycle manufacturers did have entry level touring and road bikes on sale too - with added benefit of interchangeable parts with more common commuter models) derailleur transmisssion with large number of gears near the baseline commuter bicycle price class.

I regard that as a beginning of the silver age.
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>>1090239
Well by definition - by looking by the crushing market share alone - their product is "average" :)
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Circa 2007 when monster made $3 per can of piss, Fox marketed to trailer trash rednecks and trail Freds started wearing full face TLD helmets.
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When helmets became compulsory for pro's and amateurs started imitating them.
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>>1090194
>>1090226
>>1090240
>hybrids

It probably has to do with commercialization and need to put more sponsor name + generally shit aesthetics of late 90s and early 2000s + also the push for "new look" every year, as opossed to timeless figure complimentary desing.

Its becoming more conservative and more fa every year, just look at pimp jerseys of cannondale drapac today.
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After wearing baggies and a t shirt for a year and a half I finally bought Knicks and a cycling specific shirt. How do I work up the courage to step outside wearing this shit?
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>>1090367
>buy those padded lycra shorts
>too self conscious to wear them by themselves so I have a pair of tennis shorts over them.

they are a lifesaver though.
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>>1090367

The knowledge that I am simply better than other people is all the ego-chamois I need. That's a pretty low bar, but then again so is looking a bit silly for a few hours.
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>>1090226
Shimano Tourney, my friend. "groupset" of choice for all the BSOs.
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>>1090367
>>1090439

I dont get why in the US people have this kind of psichological trauma. Never heard of a single cyclist here in Europe that doesnt use lycra because of something similar.

Are all americans like 12 year olds?
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>>1090255
>>>/sip/
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>>1090525
See the coal rolling thread that was crossposted from /o/ to confirm your suspicions
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>>1090525
I always get a boner on a bike so I have to wear something over them
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>>1090535
>>1090525
I'm australian I'm just fat

if you wanna see a fat guy in tights that's your prerogative
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>>1090311
Well that marked a bump in commercialization and throw away culture. A sinple single or bi-planetary gear hub or a bare-bones friction shifter derailleur system one can maintain.

My dad opposed derailleurs, I guess he thought they were flimsy and the the old threded type of casettes people took to the shop for replacement typically. He had no problem opening Sturmey Archer S5 for relube, because the temperamental shifter system was vulnerable for dirt.
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Because the sad fact is that especially the multi-planetary gear hubs require diligent maintenance to work properly, even if they were, back when times and I guess still, marketed as the easy worry-free transmission option.
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>>1090194
hey i have this jersey i bought it b4 i knew anything abt bikes
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>>1090536
I do. Now put them on, fattie.
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>>1090236
How about no

sincerely, poorfag
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>>1090525

We are a lot more masculine and violent than you. You probably don't own a gun and have never been in a fist fight. Most of us have / do
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>>1090194
1985/86
Standard for clothing suppliers to be using lycra which was much more easy to print complex graphics than wool.
Worst kit ever made has to be Castorama's hideous monstrosity from '94
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>>1090525

Murrikan in Italy here. Yeah, it took a couple of weeks to not wear MTB shorts when I started road biking. Now that I'm a couple of years wiser, who gives a fuck?
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>>1091650
That's fucking rad
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>>1090226
>About 95 here, when 21 speed hybrids took the market over.
Yeah, early 90's here as well, but instead of hybrids the ""MTB"" craze started (and it still lasts apparently).

>>1090521
>Shimano Tourney
Isn't it made from plastic?

>>1090536
>if you wanna see a fat guy in tights
>IMPLYING I'm giving you this much attention
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>>1090525
Yes
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>>1090226
>>1090236
The mass produced cheap mountain and hybrid bikes are a good thing in my opinion. Some people miss the era of old ten speeds with DT shifters. I loved my old Schwinn Traveler that I rode for a while, but the versatility, durability, and user-friendliness of mountain bikes is fantastic.

I wasn't a huge fan of BMX once I got my first mountain bike. I think BMX was a worse fad since kids would have had more fun on cruiser bikes. A lot of the banana seat bikes had 5 speeds. There are mountain bikes for smaller kids but especially poor kids only ride BMX bikes nowadays. Very few kids ride road bikes, but I did run into a 10 year old kid riding an 70s ten speed a while back.

Also, aluminum is a wonderful thing. It made the BSO-tier bikes much lighter. They are probably cheaper grades of aluminum, but durable enough and affordable. You can buy a cruiser bike from Wal-Mart for under $100 that weighs 26 pounds stripped down. I don't see any reason to pick gaspipe steel over aluminum. If you have a good chromoly bike, sure. I had an old Pacific mountain bike (same as pic related) that lasted a very long time.
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>>1092005
>I don't see any reason to pick gaspipe steel over aluminum.

Gaspipe hiten rides reasonably nice.
comparable aluminum tubing rides like a dull axeblade.
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>>1091650
>Worst kit ever made has to be Castorama's hideous monstrosity from '94

Ive seen worse - kits from early 2000s were also pretty horid. from now on, the A E S T H element is kind of coming back into pro cycling clothing with neo 80s trends
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>>1090521
I'm pretty sure Tourney got 7 speed much later. The 7 speeds at that time would be something more expensive.

>>1091831
Yeah the whole buying MTBs without any intention on ever riding offroad seems pretty crazy... I got a 21-speed MTB when I was 12 too, the hype got to me. Made my first trail ride over 10 years later....

And I've had two bikes with tourney, it quite possibly is plastic, but amazingly it works quite well. Newer one has 8-speeds and I still ride it.

>>1092005
I mostly agree, but riding a shitty MTB on the street leaves you with a terrible impression about cycling and possibly removes any further interest to get a better bike.
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>>1092401
I don't think drop bar racers are necessarily the answer either, I got a drop bar bike for the first time in my life a few weeks ago and I'm kind of stunned by how different they are to ride than a normal consumer friendly mountain bike.

However I was also stunned by how fast it accelerated and how fast you could go on it, it seems like bikes that are of a similar nature but more user friendly such as the kona dew tend to be very heavy though.
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>>1092403
True, I'm sure racing bikes would scare people away from cycling too. I'm pretty sure the higher end dews are sub 10kg and for sure I can't tell any speed difference to my endurance road bike. The flat bars aren't very good on long and fast rides, otherwise I'd be fine with having one as my main bike.

I think that style of bike might be the best beginner bike, before you know what kind of riding you like the most.
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>>1092005
>BSO-tier bikes

what is a BSO?

Your point on MTB stands, 26" mtb is the best option for city commuting, even better than 28" touring bikes since the wheels are more durable, and with a generic MTB you can explore different types of riding, but once you try a rode bike youll realize what you were missing when riding road on a MTB.

>>1092401
>a shitty MTB on the street leaves you with a terrible impression about cycling

my interest in riding flats and long is here again after I bought a late 80s road bike
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>>1092414
>26" mtb is the best option for city commuting
Wheel size doesn't make a fuck of a difference for commuting unless your commute involves a world cup XC course

I can't imagine how wheel durability could ever be an issue commuting, unless you're 100kg+ (in which case, fair enough). I mean if you crack a rim more often than once every 10 years from just cycling along the road to work and back, you really have to ask yourself what the hell you're doing
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>>1092431
>Wheel size doesn't make a fuck of a difference for commuting unless your commute involves a world cup XC course

riding up and down the curbs is a factor in city commuting. for that job, 26" 1.95 is a better option than 28" 40mm. Especially, if that is your 2nd or 3rd bike - you can use parts from your MTB, far cheaper to buy and maintain that using a gravel grinder for commuting.
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>>1092629
Jesus dude, learn to ride a bike, you don't just slap straight into a curb at full speed. Ideally you bunnyhop it but that's not even necessary, you just unweight each wheel as it's contacting the kerb... Like really that is dumb, not to mention the fact that obviously a bigger wheel will actually get up a kerb more easily
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>>1092629
>hurr-durr muhr curbs
Retard.
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>>1092670
>>1092649
>slap straight into a curb at full spee

nice scarecrow arguments faggots.

Everyone knows how weak most 28" stock touring wheels are and 26" is Godsend as a utility bike
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>>1092689
650B is faster than 26" and stronger than 700c.

The main reason 26" is still used at all for touring is because the tire standard is still used in a lot of places like India/Africa/etc making it easier to get replacement tubes and tires than if one were riding 650B/700c

Anyone who would argue for the superiority of 26" from a performance perspective is a moron and might as well be riding 24"
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>>1092701
>The main reason 26" is still used at all for touring is because the tire standard

Im not arguing about touring but everyday commuting and the set it and forget it built bikes. 26" 90s mtb are perfect for that.
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>>1092702
You've taken an old meme so far up your arse you're going to need surgery.
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>>1092702
Should try commuting on a 700c cyclocross bike.
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>>1092701

Saying you might as well be riding 24" instead of 26" is the same as saying you might as well be riding 26" instead of 650b.

>what is logic
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>>1092703
>You've taken an old meme so far up your arse you're going to need surgery.

I use 90s mememobil as my commuter, not a carbon gravel grinder with a carbon seatpost that will brake - the risk of things getting stuck up ones ass is yours.
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>>1090227
>that fork

what the fuck?
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>>1092702
shiet somebody saved a pic of my bike
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the day tektro was incorporated
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>>1092414
>what is a BSO?
Bike-shaped-object

i.e, a piece of shit that can't be considered a proper bike but sure resembles one enough to convince normies into buying them at the local walmart.
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>>1090194
>>1090194
When Brochard retired.
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>>1090283
>this sad meme
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>>1093555
bitchin
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>>1091650
*fucks your bitch*
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>>1093631
I pheel physically sick
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>>1093631
how do i achieve this aesthetic?
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Roadies look like faggots LMAO
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>>1090536
I'm Australian too and there's plenty of fat guys going out in lyrca each day.
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>>1093631

panty dropper




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