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Post all model train related stuff here. All scales (O, N, HO, etc.) welcome.
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Has the guy with the L shaped HO layout around his desk made any developments? Love seeing how that ones coming along
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The La Mesa Model Railroad Club in Balboa Park in San Diego recently finished up laying the last of the track on their Tehachapi pass layout from Bakersfield to Mojave. It's 32 scale miles long (prototype is 60something). Based in the 50s with train order operating sessions held every few months, but during regular days members can run whatever the hell they want.
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>tfw my MTH HO es44ac died on the track
>took it to a shop
>totally dead

Whats a good brand for a UP es44? Broadway limited looks good. I regret the MTH but i was dumb and bought it anyway
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Amazed you had problems with an MTH gevo. I've got 5 that I got non sound and added loksound to. Without a doubt the best engines in the fleet.
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>>1103870
Model trains do not 'transport' anything therefore they are off-topic.
>>>/toy/
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>>1103959
Neither do bike races or cycling for exercise, faggot. Get fucked.
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>>1103969
Nice try sweaty, but they clearly transport nu-males.
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>>1103940
Scaletrains is coming out with some just pre ordered a Csx one...Also mth proto sound is shit and thats why they died isnt it?
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>>1103870

Thinking of setting up an innawoods style on30 scale layout in my basement using mostly unlettered Bachmann trains for my imaginary narrow gauge railroad "Diamond Falls & Thunderhead" (D.F.&.T).

Any reliable methods, or lettering kits that work on on30 scale models? Also, why is it so hard to find baggage combine cars in on30 scale?
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>>1103913
That is amazing. Does it loop around to the hill in the back where that guys head is?
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>>1104039
Yep, this is about 1/4 of the layout that is visible. Running the whole thing from Bakersfield to Mojave takes anywhere from an hour to two hours.
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https://youtu.be/M696-x01Sf4
Monoraio train model and other models
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>>1104212
*I mean, suspended monorail
https://youtu.be/f6qHlYKon8s
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http://www.bachmanntrains.com/home-usa/board/index.php?action=profile;u=56558;sa=showPosts;start=30

I'd love to know how this guy does his grass.
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>>1103992

Quality autism.
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>>1104221
Yeah that is impressive. I wonder if he's using the electrostatic method?
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It is static grass
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>>1104348
Neat. There's a local here trying to do that but so far he hasn't had much success.
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>>1104412
Really? I haven't done it in a large amount yet but I tried it with a homemade applicator and some noch grass worked great looking forward to a point where I can do it on all of layout
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>>1104438
This stuff beats ground foam by such a large amount it's not even funny
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>>1104440
Indeed, it does look very good. I've never heard of this method until this past January when the guy mentioned at coffee that he was trying it.
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>>1103992

It's obscenely hard to find anything On30 that isn't from Bachmann.
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>>1103992
If you're willing to do some painting, there always seem to be any number of On30 Hawthorne Village Bachmann 2-6-0 Moguls and rolling stock on Ebay. It'll be weird stuff like a McDonald's commemorative train or the Budweiser Express, something that will need a complete repaint, but sometimes you can find stuff pretty cheap.
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>>1104552
Here's a listing for a locomotive, Combine car and baggage car for $49.00. They'll need a repaint, but it's functional rolling stock and motive power on the cheap.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hawthorne-Village-Moonlight-Express-Engine-and-Train-Car-Set-/272811214697?hash=item3f84d0c769:g:uWEAAOSwx3NZYl0s
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G Scale anyone?
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>>1104554
I've seen one in Christmas colours.
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>>1104688
Bachmann got into On30 to supply Department 56 with a proper scale train for their Christmas Village line. The Mogul is based on a Cooke Locomotive Works loco from the 1800's. There are four or five variants of Christmas passenger trains with a loco, combine, coach and observation car.
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>>1105100
That doesn't sound surprising.
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Thinking about getting back into modeling again, haven't done it in 20 years (since I was a kid), and a lot has changed.

My wife and I have agreed that we've got space for a small N-scale layout, maybe 4x8, but we're not sure of where else to go.

>What DCC system do people like here?
>Any advice you can give someone who'se never done any modeling (my wife) and someone who hasn't done it in 2 decades (me)
>Where should we really start? Come up with a track layout and build the scenery around it? Build a piece of scenery we want and then figure the track layout? We probably don't have the space or wherewithal to do a model of a real world space
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>>1105766
>What DCC system do people like here?

It varies from user to user. most modellers seem to like a system like NCE. but personally I find Bachmann's Dynamis system really easy to use especially for accessing and altering CVs
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>>1105774
I was split between an NCE and a Digitrax system, and right now I'm doing research on both.

For my wife, who'se going to help with a lot of the modeling but doesn't really give much of a shit about wiring, cab ux and appearance is her biggest factor.
Digitrax cabs are "ugly" but seem really functional, particularly with their displays, while NCE procabs are much more "aesthetic", but their display doesn't seem as nice, since its just a multi-line LCD.

I suppose I could just use a Wifi throttle and put an app on her phone.
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>>1105766
Keep in mind I have minimal experience with DCC, but I prefer the NCE system based on feel & appearances. It just feels good in my hand, seems robust enough, & the layout of the buttons is comfortable. Digitrax looks utilitatrian. In my area users with sporadic technical glitches usually have Digitrax systems.

I think it's easier to design a track diagram and then scenerize it afterwards. The trick is to make that scenery look normal and the track adapted like in real life (the track follows the terrain). Everything about model railroading is an exercise in compromise & compression as you know very well.

For the wife who has never dabbled in the hobby I give advice from a favourite movie of mine: try everything. My experience has shown that a lot of women like the art aspect of model railroading. Painting, scenery, etc. One club I belonged to a lady liked making trees & detailing/painting rolling stock - that was it. Didn't operate trains or anything else. Others decided it wasn't for them, but all said that they liked the fact their men were at home playing & not out drinking somewhere. :)

Welcome back to the hobby.
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>>1105821
I've slowly introduced her to it with some diorama. We built a grass applicator and have made a few small western scenes.

Yesterday we spent the afternoon at a club, and she really liked the models there. We'd join but its an hours commute and the membership duties dont fit with our schedule, unfortunately.

From what I've seen, Digitrax seems like the "oldest" and least matured; their cabs still look like the cabs I remember seeing in the mid 90s. NCE cabs look a lot more polished and professional, they're not just an enclosure with some buttons and knobs shoved on them.
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>>1103874
Comcast and ATT were both range banned in my area. Comcast just started working again.

>>1104348
This is the coolest shit ever and now I have to rethink my whole layout
I am pretty much dead in the water for now. I am going to be moving soon because my grandmothers alzheimers is getting too bad for me and my wife to handle, means either she gets sent to a home and I get the house or we move out and she gets a caregiver. If I move it means carving up my trainset with a sawzaw. Dont want to work anymore until I know for sure. Unhappy with some aspects of how it has turned out, primarily the turntable which is in the way of keyboard (obvious when I put it in, but is getting to me).

Pic unrelated, so much smoke can look at sun without protection.
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Decided to make a light railway layout out of what I have already and thrifty purchases rather than spending big. Means I'll actually get going on something rather than dreaming big while other costs hit my finances.

Any good resources to give an overview on modelling British light railways? With all the Col. Stephens fandom about there really should be something.
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So was Ithaqua actually doxxed as that dead guy at some point or was it just a joke?
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>>1108906
He's dead.
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/448515/alex-batey-rip
The article links to his youtube page.
https://www.youtube.com/user/yardlet6/featured
He's really dead.
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>>1108957
Well, I fucken hate three rail, but he was a knowledgeable and idiosyncratic poster and gave as good as he got.
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Ended up doing a little landscaping. I personally think it looks nice so thats good enough.

Trees are hard to keep standing though because of huricane kid 1 and kid 2
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>>1109574
That's some good shit.
Keep it up
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>>1109574
Nice! How's the other end of it looking?
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>>1110970
Nice. I'm not sure exactly why but i've always liked cab units.

(I have a fleet of these, these two are the only used models of the bunch. Needs handrails).
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>>1110993
Is that your set of C-Liners? Nice.
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>>1111280
Yeah, I got the A-unit cheap from an estate sale & the B-unit at a train show in April. I wish they made an H16-44 in the same quality.. I could use a few.

I must say seeing some of the little layouts here has galvanized me to get off my butt & do one of my own. With fall approaching I planned to build a small switching module with a loop around the room (bach suite) but some shit may be going down with my apartment building so i'm holding off for 2 more months in case I have to move. But the aquisition of rolling stock never ends.
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Need to add a road heading off under the tracks and a few semis. If they werent so expensive and if I wasnt so bad at it I would build some hoppers.

>>1109944
I extended the track all the way under my tv. There is now a shelf under my tv for the cable box and router and I will make this a mountain. Same situation with a third monitor I added. Tips on making mountains without paper mache?
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>>1111343
>Tips on making mountains without paper mache?
Plaster if you don't mind the end product weighing 9001kg.
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>>1111343
Fine mesh chicken wire for the rough structure, cover in space filling foam and then when dry plaster over and add detail.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1aMjRFe5gk
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>>1111343
>Tips on making mountains without paper maché?

A local used that blue or pink foam board used in insulating cement foundations etc. Looks good & amazingly simple, light, & durable. He said it's a great medium for setting trees in. Rough shaped with a knife and then later used a wood rasp for finishing the contours. A bit messy but easy to clean with a shop-vac.
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>>1111604
At my club we do this. Works great, and its strong as an ox. You can sculpt it.
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>>1111604
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WW1 Ambulance train pack of mine.
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>>1111604

Not great but good enough for me.
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>>1112430
You can also melt the foam away to sculpt, using a shitty soldering iron, blowtorch, or high-temp hot air gun.

Can give some unique weathering effects, but can also make a huge fucking mess.
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>>1112032
I saw Bachmann are releasing some narrow gauge 009 (?) WW1 era trains; I think a mixed gauge layout running them and that train pack would look ace!
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Posted this as its own thread, but thought I should cross-link it here: >>1112467

Any opinions on layout CAD software? I've been using XTrackCAD and generally having a shit experience, due to XQuartz bugs. Rail Modeller Pro looks particularly appealing, but thought I might ask
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>>1112468
I use SCARM. The version I use has a limited amount of track I can put down, think I've ended the free trial for it. I've gotten on with it really well though.
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Haven't posted recently but I model early 1990s British N gauge based on rolling stock found around central Southern England and am about to do fairly large order for new stuff next month. Currently working my way through a list of rolling stock in -pic related- I planned and am building up at the moment.

By the end of next month should have about half the stock pictured, anyone got recommendations for future additions? I'm fairly undecided about how I expand once my current plans are finished by probably spring next year. Only real boundaries I have must plausibly fit in the period and region and diesel powered locos only. Really I want Bachmann to remodel their Networkers and other OO stock for N gauge but they've still yet to do it.
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This would be a cool little consist for a model train layout.
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>>1114370
What's Neat with Ken Patterson this month: Yes it really is a photo!
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I never knew /MTG/ existed this is amazing
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>>1114426
Hello. Is that your basement or garage? Also do you have any good trains (ie: not CSX)?
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>>1114470
It's in my basement...And ouch thats hurts I do have some leasers
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>>1114492
>It's in my basement
Neat. Double mainline all the way around?
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>>1114611
Yep
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>>1114627
Some old pics i took out the spot where it went into 1 track so it's 2 tracks all the way around now
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>>1114627
>That highspeed crossover.
Shit player, what are you running on your little setup?
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>>1114629
>thought it would be fun to switch the trains back and forth
I model CSX from 2000 onward
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>>1114634
Might change things up now that i know a little about prototype modeling
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>>1114426
Welcome. I'm envious of your space for a layout. Your benchwork is nice & wide, what are your plans for all that? It looks like you're using an NCE throttle, is that the PowerCab system? Do you have to use a booster?
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>>1114712
Thanks nice to be here.Yes it is a power cab and no i do not have to use a booster because i can only realistically run 4 engines at once but if i wanted to run more i would need one.As for benchwork i plan on getting all of the track laid and maybe adding a yard in the wide open space in pic 4.But i would also like to rebuild it into a double decker with hidden staging and open *dominoes* benchwork but i won't be able to do that for at least 2 years
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>>1112451
Indeed it would.
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After about a month of messing around in CAD, I came up with this variant on the old Gulf Summit layout from an Atlas book.

All tracks are flex, Micro Engineering Code 55. Switches and crossings are to be hand-laid.

Green layer is elevated, 1" from midpoint, allowing for 2" bridges and tunnels.

Steepest grade is 2.2%, but thats hidden in a tunnel. All visible grades are 2% or less.

Things will probably change a bit as I actually start building the structure and laying down foam.

Any thoughts/feedback?
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>>1115785
I know very little about train modelling but I liked that layout, would love to see in action
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Atlas is releasing a new N scale model, the GP39-2.

http://www.atlasrr.com/NLoco/ngp39-2.htm

Might pick up one of those Santa Fe Kodachrome units when they come out.
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>>1115820
Its going to be a while before I can afford to lay all that track though. Assuming 50 pieces of 36" ME at $25.99 each = $1299.50

I might build the lower loop though
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>>1115863
ME?
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>>1115896
Micro Engineering
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>>1115834
God I love that livery
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>>1115898
I should have reviewed the original post, but why so expensive? 25.99 USD shouldn't be price of a single yard of flexitrack
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>>1115900
I haven't been able to find ME concrete Code 55 for under $25. I've checked Blue ridge, Nscale supply, amazon, Tony's, some local shops, and Model Train stuff. If you happen to know of a merchant with it lower priced, I'd love it.
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>>1115901
I'm sure you must be looking at a box of half a dozen lengths or something. Track should simply not be as much as you posted.
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>>1115902
I'll have to check it again. I was a little floored at how much they going to cost me. Probably shouldn't be doing price-outs late at night
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>>1115903
I checked n-scale supply, that's the price of a half dozen yard length box. There may be a larger box available at some stockists which would give you better economy.
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>>1115908
Thank you. I'm phoneposting now otherwise I'd do it myself.

That drives my cost down substantially. $233 instead of over a grand
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>>1115911
Might also check with some guys at my club, see if I can buy some off them. One recently completed a massive (1000 sqft) layout and probably has enough bits and pieces I could start making switches.

I really wish ME would make concrete tied switches. Part of the decision to hand-lay was that they only have wood ties.
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>>1115915
Some questions from an HO scaler; is code-55 rail in N-scale the same physical size as code 55 in HO-scale?

Also, if i've read your post correctly you'll be having concrete ties. How are you making concrete ties for your handlaid switches?

Btw, getting bits & pieces works well for me. Originally I wanted to get all new code 70, but a local salvaged a bunch of "gently used" track from a layout whose owner had passed away. While normally around $5/piece new I got 30 pieces for $2 ea. All ties intact, no kinks in the rail, never ballasted or painted. Initially I thought i'd be stripping the ties & using the rails on handlaid ties but when I saw how good they were I cancelled that idea. I just wish I could get switches cheap like that too.
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>>1116030
I'm not actually sure about them being the same size. I think they are, as I know people who run HOn3 with Code 55 all around, but I could be wrong.

ME sells bags of concrete ties, and so I was going to use those where I could, and where I can't I'm going to 3D print some ties.

I've thought of making the entire switch by hand, frog and all, but for the No5 switches, I'm probably just going to use ME's switch kit, since it comes with a prefab frog
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>>1103870

one of the reasons i'm trying to buy a house is to get into the hornby hobby

for example: look at this sexy cunt
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>>1115785
Thats to much track if you ask me...but that may be what you like about it
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How can (((HO))) scale even compete?
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>>1116307
You can afford to buy more than one locomotive in HO, and dont need a club to run?
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JNR Kiha (DMU) 82 series. N scale kato model to Japanese 1/150 scale, I added lights and painted the interior, painting the seat head rests and hand rests was a real pain.
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>>1116340
Nice, is that your layout or a club's?
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>>1116307
Ahhh... glorious 7" gauge (is it?). That would be fun to try.

>How can (((HO))) scale even compete.
Cheaper. :^)
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>>1116307
uses less space
scenic routes
cheap
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>>1116449
This is why I do n scale, but I made it expensive because all I care about are Japanese trains.
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>>1116489
Really? I've found Japanese N scale to be much cheaper than modeling American or European prototype.
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>>1116356
Thanks, its a small club layout in Crockett CA, I'm only in the area temporarily but they are happy to have people stop by an run trains.
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>>1116512
I never really looked at US/Euro trains, but I have noticed that unitrack is typically marked up 50-90% in the US, with trains being marked up similarly or higher. So except for things like wires, or the couple track conversion pieces I bought for the Tomix finetrack I'm planning to add for testing, literally everything I buy is imported from Japan and shipping gets expensive.
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>>1116560
Same, but if you order it all at once the combined shipping, I've found the shipping is actually the same or much less than if you got it in the US. Plazajapan is great for combined shipping, and SAL is pretty fast and only 10-20$ depending on how much you order.
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>>1116560
>unitrack
Unless you just have a loop set up on the table from time to time you are daft using a proprietary quick track system.
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>>1116609
I disagree, the convenience of the sectional track is great for those of us that don't have the time to lay track themselves. It lets those who would rather focus on scenery or running trains to get started quickly, and focus on the aspect of the hobby they enjoy.
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>>1116609
Unless you just have a loop set up on the table

This is exactly what I have, and it will change often since I'm in an apartment and plan to move and add on to my 3'x6' table over the next few years. If I like finetrack, I'll probably go all in on that over unitrack since it offers a lot more variation in turnouts, viaducts, and other addons that unitrack doesn't have. I also don't really want to deal with flextrack in any case, and quick track can look quite nice with scenery for a permanent layout anyways.
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>>1116609

You can do a lot more with it than that. Either upgrade to a double-track layout and/or heavily modify and shape it with short pieces to work as a temporary but more natural looking layout. I'll post pics next time I put mine up to illustrate the point.

Likewise I've seen quite a few exhibition layouts make use of it as a proper track system and not look too straight or artificial, just needs a bit of weathering, painting and some clever ballasting and it looks good. Saved a lot of the wiring problems I was having with my old fixed layout and and irritating grinding/clicking noise from hitting ballast in sections.
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Hey /n/, board traveller here. With Christmas coming, my gf has decided she wants a train around the bottom of the Christmas tree. I'm not sure where to begin looking, but I was wondering what is the best bang for the buck in terms of a novice fulfilling that task.
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>>1117669
I know people who have gone out and bought starter sets from Bachmann. Usually an engine and 4 cars, some track to do a circle (or oval) and throttle. Check a hobby shop or toy stores. I had a buddy who bought one in the toy section of a grocery store chain (Real Canadian Superstore) of all places.
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>>1117669
Cheapest would probably be searching auction houses/estate sales for an old Lionel set.
[spoiler]inb4 >3 rail[/spoiler]
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>>1117715
>estate sales
Might be a bit late for Ithaqua's.
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>>1117669
Lego Winter Holiday Train. New set introduced last year, and still available new, pic related.

To make it go you need a battery box and motor, video related:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zVSnH-W-uU
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G Scale, anybody?
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Regardless of scale, are there any model maglev trains? The L0 series is quite pretty.
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>>1118098
I had a roommate who got into G scale as a joke back in 1988. His first locomotive was an Alco FA unit in CPR tuscan colours. 2 years later he was a serious collector. In '88 we used to have a balcony on an apartment building that was big enough to put a 20' oval on. Neighbours in the building across the street used to watch it run. One of them spent about 2 months trying to track us down to inquire about the trains.

At my local annual train shows G-scale is a massive hit with the kids.

But no, I am too heavily invested in HO and lack the real estate for G.
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>>1118161
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>>1118214
I started with G Scale back in 2003 when I was little.

My first set was a starter set with a Stainz locomotive.
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I Used 2 inch pink foam insulation sheet from Home Depot

it was a 5x8 sheet. cut it up, stacked it and used Elmers Glue All to hold it together

used chisels to carve it, and spackling to shape it the way I wanted. Painted it with brown paint and turf/trees/whatever else
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>>1117669
For a round the tree setup, I'd probably go for a Lionel O gauge at minimum unless it's up on a table or something. If it's off the floor, a small tree with an HO or even N scale set would be nice. If it's going to be on the floor under a full size tree, go O gauge or G gauge. Hunt on line at Trainworld or Trainz or other websites for specials or sales. For example, Lionel has has been making Polar Express and Hogwarts Express sets for ten years now and last years set can usually be had for right at $200 on clearance to make room for next years model. Traditional three rail O gauge isn't scale accurate, but it looks great circling the Christmas tree.




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