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>>1128376
Post your paystub, OP.
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>>1128379
Can't, contract pay grades are confidential. Sorry, union rules.
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>>1128376
1 million cars worth of pollution a day.
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>>1128425
Only in regards to sulfur and nitrogen oxide reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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>>1128495
And particulates.
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>>1128513
Shmarticulates
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sup fagits
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rig moving and positioning
my vsl is first one from the left
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night time
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>>1129439
I wish I could get on a US flagged AHTS
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Tight squeeze the other day

Also does 4chan give anyone else shit when trying to post from their phone? I keep getting notices that I’ve been banned, or that posting has been blocked from my country
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>>1129465
I get shit sometimes. Think it has to with your cell using dynamic IPs. Every time you switch a tower it latches onto a new range. I assume some ranfes have been abused by spammers/shitposters. Same way youll try to post and see a ban message for posting CP. Sometimes turning airplane mode on/off or switching user agent from mobile to desktop works to clear it.
Have a pic, made a trip to Maine last month
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Starting on a tugboat next week.

Any tips?
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>>1128496
Are you with Bouchard?
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>>1129744
Thank fuck, no.
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>>1129762
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>>1129762

What does that pic mean?
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>>1129764
ship is on land
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>>1129765

Haha, I guessed as much. I though the ship was just docked at a bad angle (stuck). Does the triangle icon accurately represent the size of the ship or is it just a marker? Also, what do those numbers and dashed mean?
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>>1129766
No, it's just a marker. It's just a tug boat as well.

Dotted lines generally represent obstructions of some sort or channels for ships to travel in.

The numbers are generally depths or altitudes.
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>>1129766
>t. babby OS

That's the ECDIS. That marker is just a marker. The dashed lines indicate channels (or other areas), and the numbers are depth soundings. As you can see, the good ol' J. George Betz has run up past the 19 fathom and 15 fathom lines to ground herself right on the fucking jetty.
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>>1129774
Nigga, I don't think them there's fathoms.
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>spend an entire voyage pissed off at fishing boats getting in my way
>can't give them 5 short because I always have to give way
>shrimp boat gets in our way when we're trying to go up a channel
>right after I get relieved to eat breakfast
>mfw eating my eggs hearing the ship sound 5 short throughout
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>>1129854

What's 5 short?
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>>1129857
The Danger Signal. Officially: "I am unsure of your intentions." Unofficially: "GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY WAY YOU FUCKING FAGGOT".
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>>1129857
>>1129859
This seems memeworthy
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>>1129857
>t. sailboatfag
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>>1129863

Motherfucker, I'm curious. I've never been on a boat. Not even a kayak.
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>>1129864
it's a joke, anon

it's a joke about how sailboats don't know shit about traffic or sound signals or anything
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>>1129864
To clarify: Whistle/horn signals are in Morse code. That is, either "long" (_) or "short" (-) increments. So, "five short" is five rapid short blasts of the ship's horn/whistle. When you hear that, it's a pretty clear indicator (even kf you've never been on the water before) that "something fucky is going on and I'm not sure about it so maybe you should get the fuck out of my way"
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>>1129886

Damn, thanks nigga. Learning something new every day.
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Medical question for US anons. Do you have any idea how the USCG views antidepressants? I'm thinking of getting on them, but am worried it'll affect my renewal
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>>1129949
Instant disqual. You'll need to get a medical exemption from your doctor and the Coast Guard, and they're apparently finicky about which ones they'll allow and which ones they won't.

I know. It absolutely sucks. It makes people have to make the choice of seeking treatment and losing their job or suffering.
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>>1129962
For fucks sake. Guess I'll keep self medicating.
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>>1129854
>implying fishing boats know what that means
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>>1130067
whats the story behind this pic?
and iirc that tug now belongs to tradewinds towing
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>>1129996
It would have made me feel better, at least.
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>>1130077
http://blog.friendsoftheballardlocks.org/2012/05/october-4-1975.html
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Mike
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>>1130182
I'll get back to this thread when I'm at work and can reference my international code of signals.
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>>1130182
Mm, found the pdf

>hehehehehehe
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>>1129762
Isn't it interesting how our companies stay out of the news. Nobody cares that the J George Betz ran aground on the East C&D canal jetties. A fender bender on the C&D bridge would attract more media attention. I guess so long as we don't spill oil, nobody cares
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>>1130283
Sorry, pic related
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>>1128513
That doesn't matter on open sea
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>>1130297
Yes it does. The particulates end up on glaciers, snow pack, and sea ice. Turns the surface grey and reducing the albedo and increase radiation absorption. Increasing snow and ice melt. Less year round snow and ice, the less solar radiation reflected into space. More radiation converted and kept as heat. Especially if it goes in to the dark open ocean.
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With the decibels of the tunes being pumped out of this boat i don't think anyone on board was sober
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Is it worth finding work on day cruises just to get seatime?

captcha is boats
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>>1130307
Let's just dump more particulates to shield us from the sun
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>>1130317
OUPV?
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>>1130319
Day yachts
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>>1130320
wtf is a day yatch
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>>1130415
I don't know what to call them the fucking fancy boats that take lots of people on day trips like Entertainment Cruises and shit. There are million of them in Florida.
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>>1130826

What is the use for that square little boat?

Also don't forget this week's payslip or you gonna upset someone.
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>>1131004
It's a cheap little pushboat. Barebones. Cheap to build, cheap to crew, cheap to fuel, pushes small cheap things around cheaply.
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>>1130314
i don\t think anyone on board was white either
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Who else is spending christmas at sea
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https://www.usni.org/magazines/proceedings/2017-11/where-are-you-going-kings-point
>king's point
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Maritimefags, I call on you to help me out!

I'm writing a crime story which is about human trafficking. Now, at one point the investigator finds a dead girl, and notices something on the girl that points to her having been moved on a ship, possibly a container ship (but could be any cargo ship). Something like markings that point to the name of the ship, or to some specific container which could then lead to the ship, or something in that vein. Eventually it has to lead the investigator to a specific port, so it's important that the specific ship or the port itself can be deduced from the evidence.

Can you guys think of anything? Is there any place on a cargo ship where the ships name is written and which may leave a mark (like dirt or whatever) on the clothes of the girl? She could have also been hit with something, or bumped into something, after all she was a trafficking victim.

Whoever can help me will get free internets for a year.
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>>1131279
There really isn't anything that would point that way IRL, not on a just dead body. A container is just a truck trailer you can put on a ship, and most equipment that would have a ship's name/callsign/IMO number on it is painted on. Nobody has that stuff branded on equipment. At absolute best you might have a crime lab be able to find marine paint flakes on her something, but that won't give you the ship or its route.

Your best bet would be to have him find her body in a container, maybe as it's abandoned on its trailer in the back of a gas station like that one example of Mexican trafficking in Texas about 20 years back. Something keys him in that the container came off a ship recently, not just as one of the various containers being used as regular trailers. (maybe she got out to look for food and stole a fire axe for protection and took it back. Bonus points if the coyotes killed her with it and left it embedded in her skull.) The investigator realizes that this was a ship's axe, and then checks the container's S/U on one of the various container tracking websites (like http://www.track-trace.com/container), and follows its path back to the port of loading.

Or if these particular coyotes are particularly stupid, they could have left the bill of lading still taped to the container when they abandoned it.
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>>1131279
I got an idea. We export a lot of containers full of cattle hides. These cans leak hide juice. It's white and smells really foul, like nasty pussy. It's also white and foamy. Maybe she had some trace amounts of hide juice on her. Then again, I'm pretty sure every port exports cattle hides so idk.
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>>1131309
>>1131334
If you combine the thought of "something keys him in that this was recent" like >>1131309 said, you could use the idea of the hide juice. As it's still "fresh" or whatever, not evaporated or the likes.
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>>1131334
I think you're onto something. The type of cargo could be a good enough clue.

>>1131309
I love the story you're building, but it doesn't fit what I need. Thanks a lot tho!

>>1131432
Yah, I'll do something like that.

Many many thanks guise, you've really helped me out here!
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>>1131434
you better credit /n/
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>>1131279
>>1131309
>>1131334
>>1131432
>>1131434
>not finding the killers paystub
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Is it true that tankers take some of your lifespan?
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>>1131584
Benzine is a hell of a chemical.
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>>1131589
so its true? I'm told if a company starts assigning you in tankers, they'll assign you there until you quit or transfer.

I really want to be assigned in bulk carriers.
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>>1131592
>I really want to be assigned in bulk carriers.
You don't want that either. Bulkers are extremely dirty, extremely smelly, and attract massive insect swarms, all of that on top of them being extremely slow. Literally the only good thing about them is you get weeks in port when you're unloading.
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>>1131595
>weeks in port when you're unloading
that's what I actually was aiming for. I wanted to roam the areas near port of any country we dock.

What ship types do you suggest anon?
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>>1131628
Frankly, they all suck. Cruise ships carry cargo you have to interact with, oil tankers slowly kill you, bulkers are roaming garbage bins with insect swarms to match (and require you to actually give a shit about keeping rats off the ship), container ships require you climb stacks like a monkey, and Ro/Ros are in and out of port so fast you can forget about any shore time and you'll be lucky to get 4 hours of sleep during the whole rotation.
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>>1131631
I think I can handle container ships and bulkers really. The cons you listed for containers isn't so bad and the bulkers is just an exaggeration perhaps? They're not really floating garbage bins, no?

What vessels have you manned before anon?
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>>1131633
In all honesty, just ro/ros. I've grown to hate them to the point I'm trying to get my Tankerman PIC just so I can get away from the fuckers even though I know I'll probably be stuck on them for a few years more.

Containers are like Ro/Ros but a little better. Ro/Ros can be in and out of port in hours; the record on our ship was just 5 in Beirut, and we would have made it in under 4 if there hadn't been a crane blocking the ramp for a few hours. Container ships generally take more than that. And while it's a slight exaggeration, bulkers are extremely dirty no matter what cargo you are carrying. There will ALWAYS be dust everywhere no matter the cargo. Some kinds of cargo are dirtier than the others; God help you if you get stuck on a coal ship. Grain ships just have the extra fun of dealing with poison and fumigation in the holds to keep insect colonies down, and the insects showing up en masse when you start discharging. Ask any person who has worked on a bulker; even the ones who love the relaxed attitude on the ships will tell you how dirty the ships are.
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>>1131635
I see. I see. Thanks for the info. I guess the most viable options for me are Container ships and ro/ros. I have another question anon. How is life on board? What nationalities have you worked with? and your opinion on those said nationalities?
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>>1129854
Couldn't you still give them five short if they act erratically since part of their duty as the stand on vessel is to maintain course and heading
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>>1131646
Rule 34 (d): When vessels in sight of one another are approaching each other and from any cause either vessel fails to understand the intentions or actions of the other, or is in doubt whether sufficient action is being taken by the other to avoid collision, the vessel in doubt shall immediately indicate such doubt by giving at least five short and rapid blasts on the whistle. [Such / This] signal may be supplemented by at least five short and rapid flashes

>Anyone can sound the danger signal anytime, but it only indicates doubt and doesn't release you from operating in accordance with the COLREGS
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>>1131648
BRB putting whistle on loop
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>>1131646
>>1131648
The issue was that the captain had told me that if I was using the danger signal I had better have called him, and all the other times I wanted to do it we were in open ocean so there was no need to call or even sound the signal.

>tl;dr I just wanted to yell at fishing boats
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>>1131642
I'm an American, so I've largely only sailed with other Americans. Shipboard life was nice, somewhat. If your steward is crap, morale will plummet. Foreign flag ships are a crapshoot otherwise; some of them might be run better than American ships with much higher quality of life onboard, others might be barely-operational hulks that a living nightmare to crew. I can't say which one is which beyond telling you to do your research on whichever company you want to sign on with.
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>>1131657
That's a pretty retarded stance by your captain, and would have not looked good in court had an incident occurred. The language in the coleregs is always coldly, legally precise. If you are in doubt to another vessels actions you

>Shall
>Immediately

sound the danger signal. Not wait for the captains approval. Seconds count when it comes to collision avoidance, as I'm sure you're well aware.
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>>1131671
Oh, he knew. He said that I was the officer on watch, and if I felt I needed the danger signal, I could sound it. But he said that if I was getting into a position of NEEDING to sound it, I should have called him long before that point. (the other captain on the ship was a hardliner on the "You don't sound it unless I say so" bit). And as I said, all the other times I had position to maneuver, so I did have to give way as required by the rules, it was just annoying as hell and required me to thread the needle a few times.
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>>1131678
I can understand his and your position, who hasn't had a captain like that before, but there's still a logical and legal disconnect between his orders and regulations. A disconnect that, clearly, leaves you at a loss as a navigator and officer. Every single meeting situation has the potential to go awry, and does so quickly. To my mind, he's asking you to get him on the bridge every time the water is slightly congested.
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You now remember McNulty studying those maps and charts in an effort to prove the girls in the can died in Baltimore jurisdiction. What a lad.
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Academy or Hawsepipe
Union or non-union
Inland or wait until I can get nearcoastal
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>>1131718
Academy
Whichever gets you on the water first
See above, but always be gunning for near coastal
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>>1131725
Looking for a job atm, about to interview for one that pays shit but it's seatime. Trying my best to stay away from inland but I need to get what I can get
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Tfw even the smallest prop they make is too large for my barge
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>>1131731
It's your life bud, don't know where you're at. Pay may be shit, but you can't buy sea time down the line
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Hey /mg/!

Is there any resource where I can read about the basics of the maritime industry, specifically in the Great Lakes? My dad's been a longshoreman for ~40 years and I want to learn more about his line of work.

He mainly operates cranes so he doesn't know much about the overall scheme of things.

Any help is much appreciated.
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So need to lower a few buckets in a cargo hold. Have to tie some sort of knot, so when the buckets are lowered, I just pull the rope and the knot comes out. That point is that I cannot climb down, to untie the knot or I would suffocate, confined space and all.

What kind of knot?
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>>1132153
Bowline. Or anything. Just put it through the upper eye of this, and a tagline through the release.
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>>1132153
Highwayman's hitch if you can make the tail long enough to come back to you.
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TUHgGK-tImY

Trucker hitch
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>most US ships trade in the Middle East
>mfw this now

Ha ha haaaaaaaaa i'm going to fucking die
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>>1131589
>>1131584
spent 4 years on pure chemical tankers, moved to product tankers (3 years), moved to offshore

chemical tankers. all sorts of nasty shits
acids, fenols, pure benzene and all the bs ever created by man that needs taken from one place to another. also pic related posted in a thread before but just to make an idea. its from the MSDS of some shit we had on board. famous for caner and leukemia at age 35-40 for some ppl. also falling nails, teeth, hair

product tankers are chiller than chemical tankers but still deal with dangerous cargoes, gases like H2S, nitrogen, benzene from diesel or gasoline. not as much as in pure benzene but after years this will show if you are not careful. and you can never be too careful if you are an AB, pumpman or chief officer

offshore. you'll end up caring all sorts of shit for drilling platforms like methanol, nitrogen, radioactive stuff, -135 degrees Celsius flash point bs chemicals, etc

can't speak for american companies coz i never sailed with one but the europeans ones that i sailed had internet free internet onboard. not pretty common on other types of vls. short contracts 2-2 months contracts for chem. 3-3 months for product, 28-28 days for offshore.
world wide coverage. no costal navigation.
can differ from company to company. my other colleagues that are on product tankers have 4+1 months contacts

and the most important biggest salaries. especially for top 4.
3rd mate to 2nd mate (oow) jump is something like 500-1000$/euro more.
2nd mate to chief mate - at least double salary or more, more
chief mate to captain - 2-5K more
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>>1132648
Too few hulls
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I'm a Port State control officer for the USCG, and I've always wondered, do you guys hate us? Are we a huge pain in the dick or just total pushovers?
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>>1132689
I'm not french enough for mega cat sailing.
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>>1132672
28/28 is hard to find for any offshore company that is hiring right now

Kinda sucks unless you’re doing it solely to get a lot of time really fast, which I plan on doing once I get my AB


Speaking of tankers, we brought in this molasses tanker the other day
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>>1132753
since my exp with US was on time chartered vsls that had been in and out of US for long time, USCG inspections were once a year.
most of you guys are ok and just focus on doing your inspections. some are more dedicated than normal but i understand and respect that to some extent.

and some just go full muh murika. i have a badge and a gun mufuka, you in the wrong country niqqa. respect my autoritah
the type of retards that i'll make walk the plank
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We got 4 cruise ships descending on a 7 square mile island with a population of 4,500 locals.

It's gonna be congested.
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>>1131061
Not this year, but I've had a fair share of Christmasses away.
>Checking out at Wal-Mart in Amerikka.
>"Happy Holidays!"
>Speak for yourself; I'm working.
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One week into my first hitch as an OS, to alaska towing a container barge

Finally getting some signal.

6 hours on 6 off.
Never thought I’d ever feel so rested getting more than 2 consecutive hours of sleep.
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>>1133079
>6 and 6
>as an OS

Oh my god, you poor bastard.
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>>1133079
Good for you man, let us know how it goes

>>1133081
Isn't that normal?

I will say that I'm currently doing 8-4 (8 on, 8 off, 4 on, 4 off) and I love it
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>>1133114
>Isn't that normal

It's usually either 12-12 or 8-4. 6-6 is fucking murder on you.
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>>1133115
Been working 6-6 on two week rotations for the past decade
>t. tug trash
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>>1133160
>>1133079
How does your sleep schedule work?
Do they make u make food for everyone
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>>1133167
I'm a mate, so I'm on the 00-06/12-18 watch. Deckhands roatate which watch they're on every hitch, whoever is on my watch does the cooking.
Sleep rhythm is always fucked, alternating between too much sleep and too little sleep. In general, I don't sleep much during the evening off-watch, getting most of my sleep 06-12
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>>1133182
How long did it take to get to mate?
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>>1133115
Why do they do 6-6 if it sucks so much
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When I was doing regular milk runs (Med - Caribbean) on race yachts for regattas either side of the pond the best system I found was 4/4/4/4/3/3/3 which gave us an extra hour of sleep every second day.

Admittedly there's a shitload more work to be done on a 70-100ft yacht than a container ship, but as long as the crew is fit and the food is well prepped, no dramas.

My old man did the round the world race and he said they did 6/6 all the way around the planet. Faaaaaark that.

Pic related about 2k NM out of the Azores.
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>>1133238
Shit man, why is the sky near the Azores so aesthetic?

>>1133211
It's "fairest" when you don't have crew for a regular 4 hour watch, and when a 12 hour watch would be even more murder on you.
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>>1133249
Last trip we did it was 18ft waves up and down sideways for the last 24hrs into the Azores, totally okay on yachts as we've got 12 ton of lead in the keel, but grrrrrrrr were watches annoying - pitch black and helming by feel, so as the boat rolls up and down the wave it's purely by touch as we've got no star or moon to steer by.
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>>1133249
Dope pic off watch
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>>1133194
4 years of academy time, working with this company over the summers, then two years in a training program once I got out.
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>>1133264
>tfw tub companies are so full of Gulf refugees that they won't even hire anyone with a mate's license to work as a deckhand if they don't have a TOAR

Well, a-at least I already wanted to sail bluewater...
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>>1133251
Compass or GPS?
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marine engineers, got some questions, trying to get the correct/safe answer too and i'm struggling.

If you blowdown the gauge glass, then put it back into operation, water comes up, but when you open the steam valve, water disappears, what do you do?

regarding a refridgeration system, What causes the low pressure cut out to activate?

air compressors, I mentioned intercooler should have a safety valve, got asked what happens if there isn’t one, then asked if Chief engineer tells you to pressure test an air pipe, how should it be tested.

Bridge calls to say there’s no response in steering,If you go to the steering gear room and see both motors are out, what do you do?

You are on a ship with a very long intermediate shaft, the intermediate shaft bearing shows a high temp, what do you do. What temperature does the alarm come on, should you feel the bearing case by hand? What can cause this to happen?
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>>1133697
okay, found one.
If you blowdown the gauge glass, then put it back into operation, water comes up, but when you open the steam valve, water disappears, what do you do?

means water is between bottom of gauge glass and top of the water connection to the boiler. not an emergency situation, but the reason for the low water should be investigated and fixed immediately.
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>>1133697
Do your own homework, seriously.
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>>1133762
i am,
see;
>>1133726

some of these questions aren't found in text books though, they require experience, experience which i do not have.
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>>1133697
>regarding a refridgeration system, What causes the low pressure cut out to activate?

LLSV (liquid line solenoid valves) shutting as room reaches required temp, stopping return refrigerant from getting to compressor, making it shut down on LP. LP will still be above atmospheric pressure.
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>>1133697
What academy, anon.
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>>1133788
i'd rather not say.
>>1133697
still stuck on these ones;
>Chief engineer tells you to pressure test an air pipe, how should it be tested.

>On watch at night alone, fuel injector pipe blows and starts spraying fuel and small fire starts, what do you do.
just stuck on what are the first actions after raising the alarm, answer changes if its a gen or a m/e, in port, not in port. do you shut quick closing valves? if its a gen, do you start another one and wait for that to come on load, then shut the other down, or do you just shut it down and black the ship out, counting on the em. gen. :/ so many options.

>Bridge calls to say there’s no response in steering, what do you do? If you go to the steering gear room and see both motors are out, what do you do

>You are on a ship with a very long intermediate shaft, the intermediate shaft bearing shows a high temp, what do you do. What temperature does the alarm come on, should you feel the bearing case by hand? What can cause this to happen?

>Just finished overhauling a pump, you reconnect the motor and test it, but pump is showing no pressure, reasons that can happen, and how to check/fix.
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might be working on this in a year or two
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>>1133840
where abouts? as what?
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First hitch ever is in a couple weeks. Anything I should know or learn between now and then?
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>>1134137
What type of boat are you working on? Just learn, yknow, boat stuff.
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>>1134143
Ocean tug.
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>>1133592
Compass, the raymarine autopilot was absolute pants and had us slamming waves, so hand steering off compass and constantly checking GPS for position had us making faster and smoother progress, which is always good when delivering someone else's carbon kevlar toy.
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>>1133697
>very long intermediate shaft
I know most of my engineer mates have Porsche 996's, but this is just ridiculous.
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>>1133697
Question what exactly is a panty raider
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>>1133810
Air pipe: Kinda depends on the rated system pressure and the nature of the maintenance that caused the test to be required. The safest method is to do a hydro-static test at operating pressure to test mechanical joint tightness, and observe the leak rate. Next would be a true hydro-static test all the way to design pressure if the pipe material is suspect of damage or modified (weld braze ect.). Next would be a drop test with a separate regulated pressure source along with performing a soap bubble test on affected joints. Next would be test at operating pressure with the installed system, bad idea, because a potential failure could cause an air leak.

Bearing: With permission lower turns (or just stop the shaft). Inspect bubblers for contaminants/flow. Monitor temperature, if it is not improved, worsens, or is now erroneous stop it. Inspect strainers for foreign material, and/or troubleshoot the loss of LO to that particular bearing. Touch it, you wont.
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>>1130423
I was a deckhand for entertainment cruises in NYC for two months when I first moved to the city. The pay was shitty, the working conditions were bad/illegal, and the only coworkers who had been there any length of time were the people too stupid to see how bad a job it was. That said, it did count as seatime.
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>>1135064
Which boat were you on? The wheelhouse guys on the entertainment boats I'm thinking of are completely retarded
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>>1131014
It's cute
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>>1135079
I think i worked at least one shift on each boat. The only mate who knew anything about boats was an alcoholic from long island who would threaten to 'kick you in the nuts' if you didn't do a job the way he wanted. One time we lost power to the starboard prop while docking because a different mate forgot to open the fuel valve before we got underway (there were no separate engineers). Another time a captain told a guy that he had turned the power off so that the guy could work on some electrical wiring in a light, but he didn't actually turn it off and the guy almost got electrocuted. Entertainment Cruises was bought by Pritzker Private Capital in 2012, so my theory is that they cut every cost they can (and then some) to pay off the loan Pritzker must have taken out to buy the company, and that's why they won't pay to have competent people.
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First contract as captain
Filed a report to replace c/e and 1st eng
This muthafukas have to push it.
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>>1135105
Y-you too. It's not like I want to push your deck barge around or anything though! B-baka!
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so i know shit about boats.

but has a nuclear ship aimed to be self sustainable ever been tried? or at least imagined and planned?

like some sort of piece of metal that has greenhouses, purifies its water, etc..so it could be (theoretically) saling till the nuclear material went to hell?
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>>1135364
Not really. The thing about ships is that they are inherently temporary structures that require a vast support system. Ships do have water makers, and true a nuclear ship could sail for years without fueling. Let's pretend there are means to grow food for a crew indefinitely.
Ships still need maintenance. Paint. Tools. Spare parts. Techs to repair the complicated electronics. Ships operate in a hostile, corrosive environment. Without regular zinc replacements and hull painting in a drydock, the ship would quickly become a rusting, decaying mess.

In short, no. Floating rogue civilizations aren't happening.
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>>1135366
shit sucks, how can i writte my sci fi book then.
humanity, i thought you where greater.
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>>1135361
i lol'd
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>>1133078
So are they , for less than $10/hr
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>>1135361
Can we make Tsundere Tugs a thing?
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>>1135496
damn I should work at Walmart
tfw $120 daily
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>>1135366
>Floating rogue civilizations aren't happening
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>>1135645
>the bad guys worship Captain Hazelwood like NeoNazis worship Hitler

IT'S NOT FUCKING FAIR

WHY IS HIS NAME INFAMOUS AS A VILLAIN BUT GREGORY COUSIN'S ISN'T

HE'S THE DUMBASS WHO ACTUALLY PUT THE VALDEZ ON THE ROCKS THROUGH HIS INCOMPETENCE
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>>1135366
How about building floats from plastics that floats around in the sea anyway?
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>>1136146
Good luck.
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>>1136146
>>1136149
To further explain: The ocean is dangerous as fuck. Your plastic rafts would be smashed to pieces in a gale, let alone a hurricane or winter storm. Ships break in half because of the repeated stresses of hitting countless waves. While not impossible, your concept would necessitate a lot of shore side support and, at the very least, modern weather forecasting to route around damaging storms.
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>>1136146
a challenger appears
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>>1136146
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do screws with horizontal shafts (outboards, sail drive, z-drive, etc) have propwalk?
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What can you all tell me about marine engineering? Good are to get into or should I rethink my plans? Starting at Cal Maritime next fall and want to know what I'm in for, both in school and afterwards. Any related experience or knowledge you can share helps
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>>1136228
I'm a tugfag graduate of Maine, but if I could do it again I'd go back and go engine. Main reason being the engine skillset is pretty easily transferable to land. Get work in a shoreside power plant or factory when you get sick of the ocean and want to be best home. Not exactly the same story for deckies
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>>1136234
Thanks. I was thinking along those lines for that reason exactly. Eventually I will want to stay on land and have a normal, stable day to day life, especially if I have a family.
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>>1136243
The job market is considerably better for engies as well. Because of the downturn in the Gulf, deckies are fighting over tug AB jobs like hyenas over scraps. Not TOAR-training jobs, mind you, just deckhands.
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>>1133079
So within this first week of being gone, my car got stolen.

Then recovered, and towed, since my girlfriend ain’t got power of attorney, and is at the tow company’s storage.

It’s already accumulated $600 in fees. And will be auctioned off in another 2 weeks, and I’m told I’ll be having to pay the fucking difference after what it sells for vs fees.

>is there anything that protects me from this shit or can get me out of having to pay?
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Got a new job, lads.
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>>1136507
What position?
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>>1136523
3/M. They have two mates on watch at all times and I'll be the junior mate, but it doesn't matter to me. I get to spend 4 months in Hawaii with zero traffic around with hundreds of other people who are paid to deal with the cargo instead of me. I'll also be back in Honolulu every 7 days, which is a nice bonus.
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>>1136507
>>1136535
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arB0lMWYylo
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>>1136301
What state is the car in?
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>>1136621
Washington.

Wasn’t even gone a fucking week in Alaska, and got my car stolen.
Only had liability on that POS so insurance wouldn’t cover anything anyway. Wanted to get rid of the car soon enough, but not like this.

>at port in Seward right now
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>>1136301
>and I’m told I’ll be having to pay the fucking difference after what it sells for vs fees.
No, you don't. They will have a lien on the title of the car they just sold. Make them sue you for the fees. They won't do it.
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>>1136301
You should be able to have the car redeemed by your insurer, or anyone else 'determined and verified' by the operator to have been sent by you. I'm pretty sure you could contest the impounding charges, too. Talk to a lawyer
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>Legal issues?
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I just realized I'm going to be on a ship during tax time. Well, fuck. How easy is it to file a request for an extension from offshore?
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>>1137616
Are your taxes so complicated you can't just do them through an online service when you're in port? Or have a tax preparer do them for you.
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>>1136621
Washington.

Only had liability as the car was a POS commuter civic that I was gonna get rid of soon anyway.
Just pisses me off, I’m getting fucked and penalized for getting my car stolen.

>at Port in Kodiak
>Haven’t slept for shit last few days since making port
Definitely gonna hop on my AB and QMED soon enough. However, company will not pay for licenses, which is a bit of a bummer. The mate and chief have high hopes for me. Say I got a good career ahead of me.
This stuff is definitely trial by fire. Thrown to the wolves. Just need more seatime and get my confidence up. Catch myself being a space cadet at times on no sleep
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>>1137657
>Catch myself being a space cadet at times on no sleep
That's something you need to work on now when you're still an OS. Doing stupid shit while tired or distracted is a leading cause of maritime accidents. If you get that shit under control now, it'll make your later career a lot easier.
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>>1137646
It's more that I won't have access to my W2s.
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>>1137832
You don't have anybody who could email you the info?
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>russian cargo and danish fisherman arguing about a low CPA on ch 16
>danish uses fathoms
>russian uses kilometres
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>>1137886

>maritime thread

>nobody posts maritime stuff
>instead trash talk about licences/taxes and whatever bullshit
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>>1137886
Tell them that they're hogging the emergency channel and to take their little dispute to a proper intership channel.
Also, who the fuck uses fathoms to indicate CPA? Kilometers are weird but understandable. Just use cables or fractions of miles like a normal human being.
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>>1137995
>who the fuck uses fathoms
Apparently Danes, for some weird reason.

Didn't say anything, we just had a laugh about it on the bridge.

Fishermen in general say some weird shit on radio.
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>>1137976
>takes time to bitch about nobody posting maritime stuff
>doesn’t post maritime stuff
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>>1138259
Lel at those thruster markings
Better put them on the fuking mast top nigger, all round visible
NiggerS better know we have thrusters
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>>1138263
>bitches don't know bout my thrusters
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>>1138010

Fishermen in our area keep using fathoms to try and seem saltier than anyone else.
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>>1137995
>>1138010
Using fathoms makes more sense than kilometers. 1 cable=100 fathoms=1/10 nm. It's easy to visualize any amount of fathoms to how much it is in cables.
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>>1133843
process operator, it's gonna be near western australia for the next 25 years
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How is the state of industry ? Is it hard to find a job ?
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>>1139016
Depends on which part of the industry you’re lookjng, Offshore oil is in the dumpster, tug companies are so numerous that there bound to be several hiring at any given moment, and I don’t know much about cargo ships or tankers, but it seems like there’s jobs out there as long as you look.
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had to "kinda" recently drop out of school due to financial reasons it feels fucking horrible
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I wish I worked in a southern port so I didn't have to deal with the cold. My god, they all pay dogshit, though.
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>>1138892

It's also easy to visualise meters.
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>>1142166
I'm assuming this is Moranfag, get on the sugar run. that way you're only in the cold half the time
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>>1129949
good luck anon! I took SSRIs and they helped
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Has maritime industry picked up with recent economic boom?

Think Trump will do anything about shitty foreign slave sailors and flags of convenience and whatnot?

Is it a decent industry to get into at the current time?
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>>1142302
I'd love to be on the sugar run, apart from working with the bottom-tier crew that run it. Getting on the NOLA-Puerto Rico grain run would be a dream. I'd plant my roots and wait for retirement
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>>1142364
Foreign flags and slave-wage Filipino crews are here to stay. The US deepwater fleet (With the exception of MSC and Jones Act trade) is dead and will stay dead. At the end of the day, it comes down to wages. Hell, you could hire a whole Filipino deck crew for what a US A/B demands. There's also the capacity/expense of US shioyards to build and repair.
Best thing Trump can do is continue to protect the Jones Act, so our coastwise tug fleet doesn't get hamstrung. Modern ATBs are the coastwise tankers of yesteryear, only with a third of the crew. The sub-1000 GRT fleet is the future, for better or worse
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>>1142364
>>1142427
Cyclist here. So what I'm learning from this thread is that shipyard goons don't really bring anything to the table. In the tech industry we had a brief panic about ten years ago that India and other low-wage countries were gonna take er jerrrbs. And indeed for a while it seemed to be happening - not in a way affecting me directly (mostly with junior developers and people fresh out of school) but certainly it was not a non-issue.

Then, quite abruptly, everyone simultaneously started to acknowledge the quality just wasn't there - a westerner could make a killing cleaning up the mistakes of Indian outsourced developers. This was something that had been warned about soon after the trend started, but it was dismissed initially as anecdotes. Didn't take long before anecdotes became stereotypes became conventional wisdom.

So that trend reversed quite abruptly when it became clear outsourcing was more expensive rather than less. Not for every type of job, for sure, but at least for the skilled jobs.

Shipping however has, I assume, been around for quite some time, yes? So what reason is there for anyone to hire a knuckle dragger with a souped up "hemi" on his pickup, over a hard working filipino or bangladeshi sailor, other than racial preferences?
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>>1142479
There's an argument that a robust, domestic, merchant marine (terming for non-military ships and sailors) is a neccesity for national defense reasons. Having a base of shipyard build/repair capacity, vessels to move cargo and be comandeered by the Gov't in times of crisis, and a pool of skilled officers and sailors to conscript from if need be. All good reasons to maintain and safeguard a US flagged fleet.

It comes at a cost, regulations for US built ships are thorough, and add to cost in building. Jones act vessels which service Continental and Puerto Rico/Hawaii/Alaska cause a direct increase in material goods. Oil moved coastwise by US ships isn't that bad, (I'm probably misremembering a stat I read a few years ago) adding only 2-5 cents per gallon on the final, delivered product.

While newbuilt US flagged vessels are some of the finest out there, the sheer added expense means companies are running their ships well beyond the time they should have been retired and replaced (see: El Faro).

There are a lot of US officers and engineers serving on foreign flag vessels, not so much on deck though. Deckhands are like your codemonkeys, easily replaced by a hard worker. Chipping rust, painting, and hauling lines is a little more forgiving than coding in terms of work quality. I honestly can't speak for safety and rates of accidents/injuries on US v. Non-US crews, I'm sure there's a study out there somewhere.

So, there are arguments on both sides. It's important to have a domestic commercial maritime fleet. In the world of international business, where cost cutting is the norm and shareholders demand stock increases, cheap ships and cheap crew are the way of life. The US prices itself out of competition.
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>>1142427
What if they mandated that x% of foreign trade must be on US ships or something along those line? Just because shit's dead now doesn't mean it cannot be rebuilt better. Plus it would be better for the environment and provide far better working conditions and such.

I guess that will never happen because mostly no one cares, but it would be nice. A whole new fleet of high tech well run efficient clean US ships sailed by US sailors making good wages and built in US shipyards of US materials.
We really should bring industry back, and do it better this time.

I'm just so sick of everything being the cheapest doggiest shit that can be gotten away with.
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>>1142567
Well, mandating that a certain amount of imported cargo is carried on US ships is a defacto tarriff. Would raise the cost of doing business across the board for them, because how do you tell one customer their cargo will be more expensive to ship because it got scheduled for the American vessel?

Something like that would be blocked by trade organizations immediately.
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>>1142796
Then what about actually enforcing environmental standards? Outsourcing and such seems to be (as far as I can tell) primarily a way to avoid regulations and shove the problems created such as pollution onto someone else even though they still affect the entire world, but it lets people feel good they made good regulations even though said regulations don't actually do anything except hamstring American industries.

Sorry my thoughts are confused and ramble lol.
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>>1142829
the newest ships being launched are some of the cleanest in history

especially when you compare them to the aging American fleet
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Has anyone studied naval architecture? Want to know if it's a meme before I waste 4 years of my life
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>>1143460
Definitely not a meme. Ships gotta be designed and built. Like most of the industry, it's overlooked/not thought of by the vast majority of the world. Good way to find your niche
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>>1143460
My brother studied naval installations not architecture so he learned how to design shit on the vssl not the vessl itself and worked in 2 shipyards before getting into an offshore construction company and now designs underwater pipes.
I don't know which one is better in case you don't actually find a job that designs ships. Prob the installations one is better just like engine department has better chances than deck to find shore jobs.
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Questiin:
Are all shipping companies on the world nowadays adopted the slow steaming technique?
If users want to send their cargo faster than that across ocean, does that mean they would have to switch to planes now?
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>>1143551
HYDROFOILS
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>>1143579
THE TIME IS NOW BABY
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>>1143495
>>1143544
Alright thanks guys
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>>1143618
There's no hydrofoils there, dullard.
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>>1142479
If you replaced all the Norwegian sailors in the North Sea offshore with Filipinos, you would see far more disastrous consequences than a few tech industry errors.
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>>1143638
Who needs hydrofoils? Having physical contact with the water is for fuckin' nerds
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>Many Filipino sailors make small incisions in their penises and slide tiny plastic or stone balls -- the size of M&M's -- underneath the skin in order to enhance sexual pleasure for prostitutes and other women they encounter in port cities, especially in Rio de Janeiro. "This 'secret weapon of the Filipinos,' as a second mate phrased it, has therefore obviously something to do," Lamvik wrote in his thesis, "'with the fact that 'the Filipinos are so small, and the Brazilian women are so big' as another second mate put it."
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>>1129949
Just bottle it in and drink to make the pain go away without ever thinking of seeing a doctor over it.

t. FAA class I holder.
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>in Honolulu
>ballistic missile warning message comes through
>Coast Guard goes completely radio silent for 20 minutes
>don't respond to anyone asking for information
>in that time frame they lose control of the port of Honolulu as everyone just starts slipping lines and making a run for open water
>stevedores working the Pride of America immediately drop everything they're doing and clear out
>there were apparently at least 17 car accidents in the immediate port area alone
>bunker barge that was tied up alongside declared that the alert was a fake because "my gut says so" and made no preparations to slip his lines and get off the ship
>he obviously forgot Pearl Harbor
>the Pride of America was prepared to spin around and drag his ass out to sea still tied up before the all-clear was passed
>bedlam and chaos reign for the better part of an hour

Was a pretty fun morning all around. 10 outta 10 would recommend watching your own home port react to thinking it was about to be nuked. Bonus points for the Coast Guard forgetting to identify themselves when they passed the false alarm message and getting torn a new one by all the tugs venting their collective frustration at them.

>"Be advised, the ballistic missile attack message was sent out in error."
>"WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU?!"
>"IS THAT THE COAST GUARD"
>"IF YOU'RE THE FUCKING COAST GUARD YOU NEED TO IDENTIFY YOURSELF YOU COCKSUCKER"
>"...Be Advised, this is *United States Coast Guard Sector Honolulu*, the ballistic missile attack message was sent out in error."
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>>1144460
can confirm this, didn't believed it either but a Filipino AB showed me
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>>1129949
Don't get antidepressants. You can do without fucking up your brain chemistry. They aren't anti depressants, they're selective serotonin uptake inhibitors. Do you know what that means? Neither do pharmaceutical companies.
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>>1144800
SSRIs work for some people and not for others. There is no magic overnight cure for depression, most people struggle with it for years and years.

>b-but they want to keep us down! they're hiding the cure so they can make more money off us!
Mmmkay. Your brain chemistry is already fucked up buddy, that's why you have depression. If you want to argue for "neurodiversity" or tell people to exercise more or whatever, I have no problem with that, but don't encourage people to self-medicate with pot and booze, that shit just makes it worse.

Pic related, I'm guessing it was the extent of your education.
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>>1144806
>they work for some people and not for others
You mean, it's about the same rate as recovery without taking them? Shock! It's almost as if the pharmaceutical industry is selling useless drugs and are rigging the studies to make it look like they have products that work when in reality they don't.
Consider reading up on the discovery, marketing and study of SSRIs. And the pharmaceutical industry in general.

Protip: I used to work in the pharmaceutical industry.
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>>1144818
>I used to work in the industry
>I don't know what serotonin is
Chelsea Manning used to work in the military. We all gravitate towards what we're good at in the end.
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>>1144819
The mechanics of depression are not well understood, and the effects of serotonin uptake inhibitors are not well understood either. It's a fucking scam. They aren't happy pills. They're brainfuckers that make you feel weird and the placebo effect carries the rest of the weight.
Don't take them. Just because you got jewed into taking ineffectual brain altering medicines doesn't mean you should take others with you.
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>>1144821
>Just because you got jewed into taking ineffectual brain altering medicines doesn't mean you should take others with you.
Says the depressed, pot smoking alcoholic.
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>>1144818
>used to work in pharmaceuticals
>doesn't post paystub

How are we ever going to believe you?
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>>1144823
You're projecting like a motherfucker hardcore. Anti depressants are not effective. ,
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>>1144863
>Anti depressants are not effective
You can't make blanket statements like that. Certain antidepressants may not be effective for you. You are not everyone.
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>>1128376
Why are they still powering these pieces of shit with diesel when the Russians are putting nuclear reactors in vessels 1/5th the gross tonnage?
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>>1144898
Because the public is terrified of anything nuclear
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>>1144716
holy shit that was a good read
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>>1145041
I often think about my plan of action if a nuke hits NYC while I'm on watch. I sleep with my porthole buttoned down because /pol/ made me paranoid about ¡¡HAPPENINGS!!
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>>1144898
Because nuke reactors have vastly more expensive first-time costs, most countries have been scared of them for years (see: how successful the NS Savannah was), you still have to offload your radioactive cooling water and there is literally no infrastructure for that anywhere outside of a select few Russian Arctic ports, and Russian concepts of "safety" are generally vague and so their reactors are likely extremely dangerous for those involved. To say nothing of nuclear engineers being rather hard to come by compared to diesel and steam engineers.
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>>1145071
Tbh in that situation I’d just sit back and watch
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>>1136507
>pride of america
trumps boat




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