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Let's lol at retarded aviation concepts
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Airbus
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>>1239940
Every retarded concept mockup you see nowadays features fields and windmills in the background
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>>1239969
It's after the elites cull the global population down to 500 million.
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They should make the disc spin so planes can take off vertically. You could have a dozen planes taking off at once.
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>>1240003
Nice troll
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>>1240003
kek
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>>1239969
Hmmmm this actually made me think.
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>>1239940
>Hey you know that notoriously stressful and difficult job of controlling air traffic?
>Yeah let's make it a hundred times more stressful and difficult lmao
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>>1239940
I'm not a pilot, but don't you have to take off into the wind? Also, in a straight line? Did whoever came up with that not have even a basic understanding of aircraft? I'm awestruck.
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>>1240067
More or less, you can do a slight curvature and you can compensate for crosswind by letting the wing pointing in the wind hang down a little and countering yaw with the rudder.

Glider pilots are famous for doing that, since their airbrakes are often weak as fuck and flying with your nose pointing ~30° from your course kills speed rather fast.
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cleared to land runway...360?
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>>1240095
That would be runway 00
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>>1240067
That was the whole point behind this concept. Some non-flyer watched a bunch of "CRAZY Crosswind Landings!!!!" videos on youtube and came up with the circle runway for the sole purpose of somehow elminating crosswind factor. Dude probably thought he would become a multibillionaire aviation demigod but instead the concept got ridiculed right out the gate and rightly became a joke.
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>>1240034
Is ATC job really stressful?
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>>1239954
salty
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>>1239940
As an actual pilot, this would never work.
It takes no thought to figure out why that is.
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>>1239969

Dead on. Here's a concept image used to promote a second San Francisco Bay Bridge, notice how the unbranded TGV train, solar panels and windmills are badly photoshopped in to make it seem green. Self-driving cars get four lanes, while the train itself gets stuck on the bridge because it lacks overhead wires.
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Kansas City International Airport airport code MCI. Direct international flights to Toronto, Mexico City, Punta Cana, and Reykjavik, Iceland.

Built with a unique 3 terminal circular concept that was way too large for the city it serviced. Never became a regional hub like they envisioned. Great surface parking and incredibly convenient curbside dropoff. To pick someone up, you just circle.

They are tearing it down because it is allegedly a security risk/too expensive because the airport lacks one main choke point where they can do security theater.

They are replacing it with a $2 billion replacement that is inferior in every way except the amount of bathrooms.
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>>1240264
Except it's not. Those circular terminals are fucking trash on so many levels, including from a flow and service perspective. The new one will be better, and more appropriately sized, in every way.
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>>1240125
It has a high turnover and suicide rate for a reason
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>>1240280
t. Mayor Sly James
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>>1239940
can someone eggslpain why circle runway won't work?
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>>1240312
I guess taking off while cornering doesn't feel great
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>>1240312
you have to land against the wind
wind doesn't blow in a circle, it still blows in one direction, meaning you can only use 2 tiny bits of that runway which are against the wind
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>>1240264
>>1240280
The circular terminals made sense when it was built, right before the era of security checkpoints. It was obsolete very quickly, and it sucks to use b/c essentially every 2 or so gates has its own security checkpoint. You get corralled into a little waiting area and if you want to leave to use the restroom or eat or whatever, you have to leave the secured areas and then go back through security to get to your gate again. The security lines get backed up when everyone shows up at once to go through them and will back out into the concourse because there are only 1 or 2 scanners per gate area. The gate seating can be crowded. If you connect there, you have to go through security unless you luck out and your connection is at the other gate in the same secured area.

But before security theater it was great. You parked close to your gate and walked right in. It needed a replacement/overhaul badly for the current era.

I will say this, the time I flew out/in of MCI it was clean and seemed well run despite the obvious drawbacks of its design. Another nice thing was if someone was meeting you to pick you up or see you off, they could stand in the concourse right next to the gate (there is a glass partition between them).
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>>1240312
Obstacle clearance is the big one. You couldn't possibly put something like this in a big city without having ODP's in certain directions that require something stupid like a 2000 ft/NM climb gradient after taking off in order to not slam into a building. I imagine taking off and landing on a banked runway would also be pretty stressful, considering that if you blow a tire or lose an engine, the subsequent loss of directional control could send you over the side a lot easier, and wing strikes would be pretty common; it would definitely require a shit ton of extra training. Instrument approaches would also be a complete wash. An ILS is expensive and there would be no way in hell an airport could maintain 36 of them at once, and if they only have an ILS in each direction the wind is most likely to come from, what's the point of the circular runway in the first place? I'd almost think ATC at a meme airfield would be less stressful, since no company in their right mind would ever send planes there.
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EASA ATPL theoretical knowledge syllabus.
If you are an European you know what I'm talking about
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>>1240282
>suicide rate
Why?
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>>1239940
>circular runway
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All of you smart asses who are saying a circular runway wouldn't work obviously didn't take Physics I at uni like I did because then you would know centrifugal force would make the plane go faster take off. How do you think a helicopter works, Einsteins? (circular motion)
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Problem solved, retards.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tRqihqtzgY
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>>1240559
> I at uni like I did because then you would know centrifugal force would make the plane go faster take off.
Yes, but you don't want it. Planes are not designed to fly sideways.
>off. How do you think a helicopter works, Einsteins? (circular motion)
Pic related. Giant prop (or how it is called) generating lift, and small prop on tail is something similar to rudder on plane.
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>>1240561
>approaching runway
>deploy harpoon
>tower you have control
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>>1240320
>wind doesn't blow in a circle
Wrong.
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>>1240561
are Germans born naturally Autistic or do they have to learn it
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>>1240591
Kek
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>>1240561
I don't understand how he does loop-de-loops without tangling the ropes.
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>>1240764
Actualy not all germans are like this, only about 5-10% are mildly autistic.
However most germans in engineering and posting here are from these 5-10%.
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>>1240003
not enough airflow
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>>1240841
u got trolled
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>>1240841
the mains of each plane would be set in chocks so that they would move WITH the disc and simply take off at the proper speed.
The way I see it working is the airport would set maybe 2 or 3 dozen jets up at once, and the disc would spin up with the jets fixed to it. At vr-15 or something each jet would go to full static thrust and simply lift off when the disc got them to the proper speed. Obviously SIDs would have to change to enable proper separation but with proper routing this could solve alot of problems associated with weather and delays.
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>>1240841
>>1240858
ok ok ok

So the runway moving makes no difference, but what if they put a massive fan in front of the flight deck on an aircraft carrier? Vertical takeoff for every craft.
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>>1240436
It's a high pressure video game that, in a busy airport, runs you at the edge of your skill all the time. And you can never lose.
But some people have fun, like that one lady controller at San Diego who will send incoming aircraft a heading out into the Pacific to see if they're paying attention to atc.
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>>1240860
Mate, what if they'd put them fans in front of the aircrafts, but attached TO THE AIRCRAFTS?
Instantaneous and completely vertical take off for everyone, irregardless of weather or space.

Give me the Nobel Price already holy frick.
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>>1240858
Yeah, but now you have to wait for the disc to spin up, the planes take off, then de-spin, move three new planes on, chock them, spin it up again...

Massive amounts of inertia, it's not going to spin up or down quickly at all.

Just fuckin' terrible throughput.
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>>1240986
You mean like this?
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>>1240992
No you fool, the air from the fan needs to flow over the wings.
See this simplified mock-up I attached, dumbass.
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>>1240264
sounds like berlin-tegel airport
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>>1239940
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>>1241030
Retarded prediction. Rising fuel costs will bring back ether the ocean liner or zeppelins.
Or possibly atomic aircraft.
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>>1241060
Atomic aircraft won't take off. Nuclear power is heavy.
They will invent turboprop again. Slower but cheaper.
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>>1240998
So, like this?
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>>1240559
>How do you think a helicopter works, Einsteins?

They don't. They are just so ugly that the earth repels them.
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>>1239940
Wasn't this part of the Futurama expo?
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>>1240347
Don't worry anon, all that grid nav, crp-5 twisting you are doing now will pay off. No Airline or small operator are using ipads anyway, so you are just preparing for the future!
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>>1239940
I don't get what's wrong

t. brainlet
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>>1240125
ATC is being a glorified crossing guard and all your customers are A-types who think they're Top Gun. Usually it is orderly and calm, but then somebody comes in with an emergency or strange requests that gum everything up.

Hey I know you've got to land another airplane on this runway every thirty seconds, but let me go ahead and make a big mess that makes you have to divert everyone for the next fifteen or more minutes
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>>1241025
What's this? A runway for ants?
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>>1240858
How many dinosaurs would you have to burn to produce that kind of energy
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>>1240998
Hi
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>>1241110
Isn't it part of your job to be able to handle emergencies and abnormal flight schedules like that? If it wasn't then ATC would be completely automated by now. God forbid someone says the dreaded E word when they actually should.
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>>1241110
Shit. Aviation is full of glorified people.
Glorified bus drivers, glorified crossing guards...
But who are flight attendants?
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>>1241122
Glorified whores?
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>>1241122
Isn't it obvious? Glorified waiters.
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>>1241060
>Or possibly atomic aircraft.
>plane crashes
>mini Chernobyl
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>>1241138
Also
>hijack a plane
>fucking nuclear bomb
>>1241124
>>1241123
More like glorified train attendants.
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>>1240992
That's rediculous
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>>1240986
Ya but with an additional fan on the (very short) runway they could add power to any aircraft and it could take off much more quickly.
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>>1241153
and when it gets out of the fan airflow, then what
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>>1241160
it flies under it's own power, just 20 ft off the ground. you could launch a jet from a helicopter pad
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>>1241160
I can't find it, but I saw a vid of a very small airplane taking off in 0 feet due to a strong head wind.
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>>1241164
Picturing this post in my head is giving me nightmares.
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>>1241171
get on flight sim
find helicopter pad on top of 381 ft tall building
take off during free fall
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>>1241139
>fucking nuclear bomb
that's not how reactors work
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>>1241213
At least it will leak radioactive water and shit everywhere.
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>>1241214
Not if we made it gas cooled.
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>>1241063
>turboprop
Already doing that on shorter routes.

Anyway, I'm still hoping for suborbital spaceflights for intercontinental flights.
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>>1241067
>>1241117
Stop playing dumb you two.
"Pushing" props posed in front of the wings (so it "pushes the air to flow over the wings) and not "pulling" props. The plane would still need something to speed it up (another set of props maybe, hence why my mock up graphic included it).
Is /n/ the dumbo central of 4chan or what?
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>>1241333
I know you're just shitposting but a C-130 legitimately generates almost half of its lift from prop wash over the wings.
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>>1240998
why wouldn't this work
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>>1241218
Well, radioactive gas will be everywhere.

Why there are no planes, that use hydrogen as fuel? Can be generated via solar panel, lightweight, contains a lot of energy. Slightly explosive, but it is not an issue.
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>>1241421
>radioactive gas will be everywhere
That's not how radiation works. A reactor with a core built solid enough should be able to absorb impact and passively cool itself without releasing any of its internal contents.
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>>1241421
Hydrogen needs to be store either at cryogenic temperatures or ridiculous pressure to achieve adequate storage density. At 12,000 psi or as a cryogenic liquid hydrogen still takes up 3x the volume of gasoline for the same energy.


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>>1241421
> radioactive gas
Please educate yourself on closed-cycle vs open-cycle nuclear turbojet.
> Why there are no planes, that use hydrogen as fuel?
Because you don't know about Reaction Engines, or planes and hydrogen?
> Lightweight, contains a lot of energy
Thx Cadet Obvious plz do your homework.
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>>1241421
>>1241458
Oh reactors, see >>1241427. That just means you don't know about gas-cooled reactors and cooling loops in general.
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>>1241333
Pulling props are already pushing props from the wing's point of view.
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>>1239940
Stabilators
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>>1241427
>A reactor with a core built solid enough should be able to absorb impact and passively cool itself without releasing any of its internal contents.
And weight a lot.
>>1241437
Okay, didn't know that it can't be compressed. I thought it would be like CNG...
>>1241458
>Please educate yourself on closed-cycle vs open-cycle nuclear turbojet.
In case accident reactor might crack, and it will be Fukushima in air. You don't want it. Jet fuel at least doesn't cause cancer.
>Because you don't know about Reaction Engines, or planes and hydrogen?
>Reaction engine
Throws some mass and accelerates.
>Planes
Weird aluminium thing with hydraulics and shit.
>Hydrogen
A gas that is quite explosive.
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Felixstowe Porte Baby with a Bristol Scout mounted on the upper wing
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>>1240067
No, and no. Both those thing just make it much easier to take off. There just needs to be enough airflow over the wings to generate the required lift that counteracts the force of gravity.
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>>1241575
The weight of it all should be the same as two engines plus a full load of fuel
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>>1241070
That's a design from before jet engines. Back then with props you didn't need long runways typically. So the idea was that you could turn around from the gate, and after receiving clearance, just take straight off with no taxing.

However factoring in other landing planes and newer jets killed those old airport deisgns.
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>>1241607
I dont think so.
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>>1241594
What was even the idea here.
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>>1246277
>In the UK, the Felixstowe Porte Baby/Bristol Scout composite flew in May 1916. The idea was to intercept German Zeppelin airships far out to sea, beyond the normal range of a land or shore based craft. The successful first flight was not followed up, due to the ungainliness of the composite in takeoff and its vulnerability in flight. From 1921, a series of types were adapted as carriers for gliders used as aerial targets.
I don't really understand how the interceptor idea makes sense though.
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>>1246280
That's what drop tanks are for
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>>1246281
I don't know how well you'd do trying to get a Bristol Scout carrying drop tanks airborn.
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>>1241012
I love Tegel. You're through check-in and security and at the gate in like 10 minutes and when you land it takes like 5 minutes from the plane to the parking lot with taxis. I'll miss it.
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>>1240998
>``Now this is pod racing~''
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>>1240263
What I'd like to know is how the train cars can flex like that.
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Cargo airships.
Neat idea, but it'll never find any investors or really any support.
It's too slow to beat road or rail freight, and it's just too awkward to make it viable as some sort of remote area access thing.
It's better to just dump the idea, or if necessary, make it some military concept, like some sort of ampibious landing resupply craft.
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>>1246540
It would be cool to have rockets being launched from cargo airships.
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>>1241218
gas cooled mean jack shit when an reactor get cracked open due to external force of collision.
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>>1239940
"Full service carriers"
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>>1241030
I know these aren't that worthwhile economically but they are so fucking gangster.
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>>1241030
I want these to be real so bad.
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>>1241090
Aircraft suspension is really not cut out for taking turns at high speeds.
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>>1246572
Airplanes do have suspension?
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>>1246277
>pic related

>>1246586
No they just slam 400 t into the ground with only the tyres to cushion it lol
https://youtu.be/JEJQRXYIg5w?t=45s
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>>1240263
>The train cars are curving to the shape of the bridge
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>>1241090
one moment you have a headwind
the next you have a tailwind.
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>>1241063
>Atomic aircraft won't take off. Nuclear power is heavy.
'Murica could've hypothetically done it in the fifties, but the costs and benefits were full retard, especially when nuclear subs were so, relatively, easy.
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>>1247522
>'Murica could've hypothetically done it in the fifties
No they couldn't have. It just doesn't work.
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>>1247713
Yes we could. The Convair NB-36H is proof a reactor could be placed in an aircraft, even if that example didn't power the engines, it definitely could. Then you have something like Project Pluto, while it is a missile and not an aircraft, it's proof nuclear powered ramjet propulsion is possible. It's all very possible, that is, if you don't mind the trail of fallout nuclear engines produce.
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>>1239940
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>>1247107
What is that man wearing?
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>>1247767
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHXgsXF0auQ
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>>1247770
I still don't know what hes wearing
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>>1249621
Imagine the amount of noise that would be caused by air-cagers. Sounds like we dodged a bullet.
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>>1247771
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balaclava_%28clothing%29
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>>1241063

Turbo props are still very much alive and kicking and still receiving refinements. They're just relegated to light aircraft and cargo planes. I for one embrace our turboprop overlords and long for a renaissance in supersonic turbo props like the XF-84H. Make tinnitus great again.
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>>1250010
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_XF-84H_Thunderscreech
>On the ground "run ups", the prototypes could reportedly be heard 25 miles (40 km) away. Unlike standard propellers that turn at subsonic speeds, the outer 24–30 inches (61–76 cm) of the blades on the XF-84H's propeller traveled faster than the speed of sound even at idle thrust, producing a continuous visible sonic boom that radiated laterally from the propellers for hundreds of yards. The shock wave was actually powerful enough to knock a man down; an unfortunate crew chief who was inside a nearby C-47 was severely incapacitated during a 30-minute ground run. Coupled with the already considerable noise from the subsonic aspect of the propeller and the T40's dual turbine sections, the aircraft was notorious for inducing severe nausea and headaches among ground crews. In one report, a Republic engineer suffered a seizure after close range exposure to the shock waves emanating from a powered-up XF-84H.

What the actual fuck.
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>>1250010
Thunderscreech wasn't supersonic, you grapefruit
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>>1250220
The propeller was.
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>>1250020
this is like the conventional version of nuclear propulsion. could probably kill people by just flying overhead
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>>1241025
Why wouldn't this work?
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>>1250285
>on short final
>sudden gusting crosswind
>runway 15 just became runway 24
>fug go arou-
>crash
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>>1250305
What about a rotating cross then?
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>>1240003
lol
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>>1250328
Doesn't really matter, it might only swivel 30 degrees then, and you'd still be screwed. Regardless, if I see my entire runway start moving while I'm on final I'm not going to try to land on it.
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>>1250305
I don't think anyone is seriously suggesting it would _freely_ rotate in the wind. You could mechanically rotate it to match prevailing wind, while aircraft aren't trying to land on it.

The more obvious answer is actually building that thing large enough to work for modern aircraft. Plus the whole, you know, planes flying towards a building problem.
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>>1246397
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>>1250020
"Autistic Screeching" - the plane.
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>>1250619
Biggest problem would be how you would get passenger jets up and down to and from the runway
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>>1250812
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>>1247522
>>1247713

The Russians allegedly flew nuclear powered planes but left out heavy but essential shielding. The pilots got the cancer.
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>>1241063
Also you can fuel turboprops with natural gas, with synthetic fuels or even electric fed by a hydrogen fuel cell with very little impact on the vehicle weight. If aviation survives the era of environmentalism, it'll be through one of these principles.
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>>1247761
Project Pluto was fucking satanic, prove me wrong
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>>1241110
Commercial pilot here. You've got one job and it's easy, a fastfood team leader could do it. The shit i have to listen to from these imbalances is just astounding, it's a good job we have to remind these clots how to do their job because if not planes would be colliding constantly.
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>>1250834
The russians flew a functioning reactor some shielding:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupolev_Tu-95LAL
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>>1240263
>the train itself gets stuck on the bridge because it lacks overhead wires.
Electric trains don't need overhead wires. That's just the best choice, not the only one.
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>>1251047
BART runs off the third rail too, mind.
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>>1250854
>Electric fed turboprop
What did he mean by this?
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>>1251355
Electric motor powering the prop with a hydrogen fuel cell providing the charge instead of a traditional battery.
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>>1251357
Where is the turbo then?
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>>1241030
Imagine these things using hydrogen fuel in like 60 years when we've figured out how to do that.

an airship. Full of hydrogen.

Thats never gone wrong
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>>1240841
use a big circular wind tunnel instead
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>>1240320
>you have to land against the wind
That's stupid. If that was the case, you could only land on a given airport on very specific days of the year, when the wind just happens to coincide with the orientation of the runway.
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>>1253995
To be fair using hydrogen as fuel instead of for lift means that it'd be pressurized in a special tank rather than consisting of the bulk of the craft
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>>1254433
If only we could pressurize hydrogen efficiently, or there was a nice durable catalyst to use alcohol in a fuel cell.
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THE ENERGY DENSITY OF BATTERIES IS TEN TIMES LESS THAN HYDROCARBONS AND "BRAKING" IS NOT AS MUHC OF AN ENERGY WASTE IN THE SKY AND BIOFUELS ARE CARBON NEUTRAL ANYWAY HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA FAGGOTS! AHAHHAHAHA
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>>1254633
>MUH LITHIUM ION CITY HOPPER HAS BEEN POSTED HERE LIKE A THOUSAND TIMES /N/ IS FULL OF LIBTARD BOOTLICKER TESLA ELON DICKRIDERS HAHAHAHHAHAHAHA WHY IS IT E-FAGS ALWAYS WANT TO USE THE GOVERNMENT TO FORCE PEOPLE TO USE WHAT HTEY THINK IS COOL BUT REALLY GAY???

A SMALL TRAINER MAKES MORE SENSE BUT IS STILL GAY!! AND YOU MIGHT AS WELL HAVE A GENERATOR BRUNING FFUEL TO POWER DISTRIBUTED THRUST APPS
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>>1254633
Biofuels aren't carbon neutral though, that's why they're an utter failure. They require that you replace highly productive, in the biological sense of the term, woodland with low productive intensive agriculture which requires shittons of petroleum-based fertilizers.
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>>1254646
>he doesnt know about algae derived biofuels

ayy m8 aigh don' u giv it a google aigh don' ya?

why do the authoritarian crony corporate socialists hate algae biofeul?? because it can be made decentralized by poor people with a few two liter bottles and is much harder to patent unlike batteries which rely on minerals from military occupied zones and which rely on centralized production and can be patented!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algae_fuel#Biodiesel
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>>1254646
Any proofs? It looks a bit dodgy.
Fertilizers are mostly nitrogen-based, no carbon there. Plants/algae consume carbon from air to grow, almost all carbon in biomass is coming from CO2 in the air. Lye and methanol (or substitutes) are in closed cycle.
So, all carbon in the biofuel is coming from the air.
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>>1254652
>fertilizers are mostly nitrogen-based
How do you think the transportation and processing of said nitrogen compounds is realized? Modern agriculture is absolutely not carbon-neutral.
If you're old enough to post on this board, surely you'll remember how colza production was the hot shit in the mid 00's.
https://theconversation.com/biofuels-turn-out-to-be-a-climate-mistake-heres-why-64463

>>1254651
Algae fuel is great in theory, but for now it's just amateurs producing small quantities at loss. Call me when it's viable.
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>>1254660
>Call me when it's viable.
it already is.. the tech is being suppressed
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>>1254660
>Algae fuel is great in theory

ok so you conceded that the apex of energy storage is biofuel it just needs more research and the reason it hasn't got it is because of a political conspiracy
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>>1254663
>the tech is being suppressed
How would that even work? There's a bunch of different countries who would benefit greatly from not needing to import as much oil, why would they collaborate to harm themselves?
Do you have any evidence at all for that?
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>>1254663
>>1254665
All OECD countries have an enormous interest in such a technology. Why would they try to suppress it at all?
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>>1254673

look at the lies elon propagates about it and they invest shit tons into solar, wind, and batteries without investing much into alage fuels

maybe the corn lobby is to blame as well?? they dont want anyone else producing biofuels?? and the palm oil farmers??

it's speculation but it's also likely and totally reasonable to be suspicious when they shill for wind energy and carbon taxes and shit and if im not mistaken biofuel would be penalized in some of the carbon taxes which is just fucking utter batshit
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>>1254368
No shit. He means you should always try to land on the runway that provides a headwind component, even if it's 30/60/80 degrees off runway heading. The circle runway was designed with the idea of always providing headwind on landing, but that anon said how pointless it is when you'll just end facing away from the wind as you go around the circle.
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>>1254678
>look at the lies elon propagates about it
Elon says dumb shit all the time, but he's in no position to suppress anything.

>they invest shit tons into solar, wind, and batteries without investing much into alage fuels
Because Investments in wind, solar and batteries pay themselves off very quickly. Algae is much more speculative.

>maybe the corn lobby is to blame as well?? they dont want anyone else producing biofuels?? and the palm oil farmers??
How? Again, do you have any evidence at all?

>it's speculation but it's also likely and totally reasonable
You're claiming there's vast, international conspiracy to suppress biofuel development. That requires more support than "seems reasonable to me".

>if im not mistaken biofuel would be penalized in some of the carbon taxes which is just fucking utter batshit
Only if the power used comes from fossil fuels. Under an ETS it could potentially generate credits.
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>>1250861
And women in ATC are the fucking worst. Nothings worse than having some overwhelmed cunt get defensive and snippy because her sad woman brain can't into spatial/abstract thinking and attention to detail.
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>>1254680
>you'll just end facing away from the wind as you go around the circle
Should not matter much, as you will be decelerating rapidly. As soon as the nose wheel touches down, wind is not going to be a huge factor anymore.
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>>1250855
COME ON AND SLAM AND WELCOME TO THE JAM
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>>1254769
back to r/incel with you
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>>1250020
>Lin Hendrix, one of the Republic test pilots assigned to the program, flew the aircraft once and refused to ever fly it again
>Hendrix also told the formidable Republic project engineer, "You aren't big enough and there aren't enough of you to get me in that thing again".
This makes me giggle every time





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