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The CEO of Apple-Metro Inc., a company that operates about 40 Applebee’s restaurants in the New York metropolitan area, said he’s been forced to cut at at least 1,000 servers in the past year as a result of New York’s recent minimum wage hike.

“We have 1,000 less servers this time this year than we did this time last year,” Zane Tankel told Fox Business’ Stuart Varney on Monday.

That amounts a two-thirds reduction of his total workforce, Tankel said.“The model now that we’re heading towards where we had one server for three or four tables, we’re moving towards one server for ten tables, eliminating about two thirds of our labor ultimately,” Tankel said.

He pins the blame on New York Governor Andrew Cuomo, New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio and “the liberal agenda.”

New York state began implementing a series of minimum wage increases in 2016 that will eventually mandate some employers in New York City to pay their employees at least $15 by 2018 for some employers in New York City. The wage hike will take place more gradually in other parts of the state.

On Dec. 31, 2015, the minimum wage for tipped restaurant employees in the state rose from $5 an hour to $7.50 an hour, a 50 percent increase. The minimum wage for fast food workers rose as much as 20 percent, from $8.75 to $10.50.

On Dec. 31, 2016, the minimum wage for fast food employees in the city rose again to $12 an hour.

Tankel’s challenges in the wake of New York’s minimum wage hike is not unique to his Applebee’s franchises.

The state lost 1,000 restaurants in 2016 alone, according to a report by the New York Post. - cont.

http://www.westernjournalism.com/applebees-franchise-owner-forced-cut-1000-jobs-new-yorks-minimum-wage-hike/
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>>157748
>Tankel's challenges

Meh shitty restaurant chain whose only goal is profit with no concern about food quality or customer service. I hope he also gets hit by a bus.
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>>157749
>Business
>Only goal is profit

Now you're getting it. Fag.
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>>157751
You own a water park.
Brown shit water from the creek is cheaper than paying for treated water.
You pump shit water all day because you just want to make a profit and dont care about your customer.

You are a shitty person. pumping out shitty water.

I'm glad these bloated bad idea business are crashing and burning. Can't sell snake oil forever.
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>>157756
>You are a dummy
>You give a strawman hypothetical
>Nothing changes
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>>157748
Were they genuinely forced to cut 1,000 jobs because they really couldn't afford to pay the higher wages to the same number of people, or were they just unwilling to have a smaller profit?
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>>157756
How is Applebee's a snake oil business? It's a restaurant that's been around for decades and is fair in quality and service
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>>157758
>or were they just unwilling to have a smaller profit?
this
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>>157761
Based on what do you make that claim, you sound like someone who's never actually run a business
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>>157762
Why are you shilling for crapplebees of all things? I think the minimum wage being raised that high is ridiculous but really? They microwave steaks for fucks sake.
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>>157748
I wonder how big this guy's raise is gonna be
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>>157756
Damn,you are fucking stupid
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>>157764
I take it you have no idea what your talking about. Lol did an Applebee's waiter snub your advances?
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>>157776
First off, it's you're, as in you are, as in you are a fucking retard. Second off, 5 shitty hamburger shekels have been deposited into your account.
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Fuck their shitty company and fuck their shitty food
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>>157748
It's a bad business that does not allow consider/plan for any changes in the business environment that affects the viability of that business.
His cost of an input went up - he has to make changes and stop bitching about it.
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Corporations use every loophole they can get to avoid taxes and practically fire-hose money in donations at our political parties and campaigns to make sure they get a cut of every program, and our corporate tax rate isn't even that high. For decades now our productivity has been increasing and our wages have remained stagnant. On top of that, our poverty rate is also set too low.

So if we as a society can't have reasonable insurance in terms of security of basic necessities (food, healthcare, shelter, education/training for employment) for our working class, then as shitty as this may seem it's the only viable option.

If businesses refuse to contribute a reasonable share like everyone else, then the only way to to level the playing field is to mandate they pay full time workers a living wage. Someone working 60 hours a week should be able to earn a living wage.
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>>157780
He did - he fired employees
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Get rid of min wage altogether but provide some basic insurance for livelihood those who are doing their best. What happened to “we’re a nation with an economy — not an economy just in some global marketplace with open borders, but we are a nation with a culture and a reason for being.”?

Put all the protections on the programs to keep people from migrating for the sole purpose of abusing social programs. Australia has a requirement that each new migrant is not entitled to anything but emergency care for the first 5 years they're in the country, which forces them to find gainful employment. Put all the protections to make sure folks don't migrate for it or otherwise abuse it, that's fine with me.

Otherwise, if we're going to have a society where corporations and the super-wealthy are consistently given deference in legislation, then at least give people a livable wage when they're working
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>>157782
Because he's a stupid fuck. If anything, now is the time to jack up the prices - since wages have gone up, things can now cost more. Now he's going to lose business because 1 server cannot possibly wait 10 tables, people will get upset over the shitty service, and they'll go to Olive Garden or some other shit.
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>>157782
who eats at applebees?
working class.
who benefits from the working class having more disposable income?
applebees

It's not true that raising minimum wage, as long as it is done society-wide, and raising prices to compensate, necessarily translates into lower demand for this reason

In fact, as a consumption-based economy, we benefit most from having a large middle class. The middle class and working class are the most likely to spend their income domestically soon after they receive it.

In the long-term our greatest macroeconomic benefit will come from enabling social mobility to the working-class.
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>>157784
>now is the time to jack up the prices
>>157786
>The middle class and working class are the most likely to spend their income domestically soon after they receive it.

Spent domestically on jacked up prices on cheap Chinese made shit. Applebee's business is down to begin with, they really don't have the 10 tables filled for the servers.
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>>157789
>Spent domestically on jacked up prices on cheap Chinese made shit.
And on food at our restaurants. The majority of goods and services in the US have a portion of their supply line in the US and contribute to the US economy.

>Applebee's business is down to begin with, they really don't have the 10 tables filled for the servers.
Sure, nobody said all layoffs were necessarily a cause of bad business decision making because of the rise in minimum wage.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4P8Fq9Tal0

Yeah, he said it on Fox Business News. It goes without saying how much credence to give to that.
Knowing these guys, they'll purposely make decisions to put the hurt on the working class just to disgruntle folks against liberal politicians over the wrong candidate finding his way into office.
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The only people losing in this scenario are the low skill workers who got fired
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>>157791
Lol everyone here is so bitter against a fucking franchise owner.

Muh corperate capitalism business is eevul
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>>157793

I've got nothing against him.
I'm not against capitalism, I voted for Trump (sorry about that).
It just makes my eye roll that he has to use it as a soapbox for "muh librul agenda is eevul", since this behavior is not unusual:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2012/12/04/papa-johns-applebees-and-others-pay-huge-price-for-anti-obamacare-politicking/#f09489eeabc1

>Fast food server, Applebee’s, possessed a healthy Buzz score of 35 before Zane Terkel, CEO of one of the company’s largest franchisees, appeared on television to complain about the law and to announce that he would not be building more restaurants or hiring any more workers in response to his objections to Obamacare.

Again, get rid of the minimum wage altogether, but give everyone who has lived in this country for a while and is working as much as possible a guarantee of a minimum dignified standard of living.
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>>157748
>>157749

They had good bbq/chicken finger baskets.

Although I haven't had any in over 20 years so who knows what the quality is now.
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>>157756

Wow.. You are absolutely fucking retarded.
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>>157756
Nigga who the fuck would go to a water park with shit water?
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>>157794
"I voted for Trump, sorry about that"

Nigga shut the fuck up, you sound like some kinda fool
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>>157800
Someone who could make money off of it.
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>>157821
How do you make money GOING to a water park?
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>>157821
Lol dumbass
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>>157781
>hur durr we need a universal basic income
Go sell your commie ideas elsewhere reddit.
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>>157794
>a guarantee of a minimum dignified standard of living.
again with the communism. Who do you work for?
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I made 8 dollars an hour working as an intern for the company that made the creative work for target. 8.25 was minimum wage; & I would have gotten capped at 40 hours payment regardless of hours worked.

>when the people making the advertising and signage and branding of said fast food joint get paid less than the server working there
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>>157748
perhaps zane's to blame for being a stingy fuck who isn't willing to part with a single cent from his hoard if he can help it.
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>>157794
So you hate minimum wage but like public housing? Could you explain your reasoning why the former isn't a 'guarantee of a minimum dignified standard of living?
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>>157821
>Tfw to smart to read
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>hey let's raise the minimum wage, that'll fix everything!
>businesses make up for it by cutting jobs
How many times are we going to go through this before people figure out that this isn't working?
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>>157842
>when the people making the advertising and signage and branding of said fast food joint get paid less than the server working there

as it should be since that job is more enjoyable and less work than being a server.
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>>157748

i hope the owner of this companie will die suffering death by aids.

fuck rich and fuck proppers. they all can rot in hell for making this planet into fucking hell poor people are forced to live in. eternal anglos are worst scum on the earth.
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>>157851

pay fucking real salaries you stupid piece of shit. then you dont need your fucking minimum vagues.
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>>157868
>Fuck rich people!
>The plight of the working class!

Found the commie cuck
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>>157869
Mandated min wages don't changes anything.

Also if the people working there were worth a higher salary, then they would be paid a higher salary. Do people expect to make good money as a restaurant worker?
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>>157869
They are real wages you can't pay your workers with Monopoly money.
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>>157876
>They are real wages

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.. in a what fucking dream world are you living fagget?
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>>157881
Dude what should a zero skill worker make in your world?

If only everyone could make a million dollars bussing tables!

You don't seem to realize that higher wages = fewer openings, fewer jobs, increased inflation, and zero economic effect
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>>157875
>Also if the people working there were worth a higher salary

then fucking close the company because it cant get enought even to pay own workers.
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>>157885
It is paying them. That's not the question being asked.
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>>157883

top kek.

the most ironic shit about is that 90% of those people are high skileld workers in the areas where they are working.

All so called "low skill workers" you, the shit eatning maggot, are insulting, do have very high skills in their jobs. the shit is that they literally forced by filthy rich to take those jobs beacuse they can afford to start own business due rich fucks creating so fucking low dump and such heavy "try own company" risks, where people without wealth are put on a choice between "suicide or mabye MCDonalds owner will not kill your business" ways of life that people cant even imagine to get own business running.

higher salaries are the only way to put those people into a position to earn enough to be capable to create own business or get independent so their children will get better chance.

go fuck yourself your maggot.
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>>157887
>That's not the question being asked.

jno thats the exact question you fuckshit. minimum vagues are tax paid programms where company owners profit the most. and now you are trying to tell me something? whats about your capitalism my dear golden spoon nigglet?
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>>157889
Or they could just replace them with robots. A little screen menu could easily replace almost all the waiters in the place as well. There would only need to be food servers.
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>>157776
He's still making a shitload of money after the wage hike, so I'd say it's more of an issue with his profit margin. He's a greedy cunt. Fuck em
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>>157792
It'll bite this greedy cunt in the ass when no one can afford to eat there
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>>157851
It just bites businesses in the ass when they start firing people en masse. If no one can afford to buy their product, they'll stop making money
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>>157883
>What should a zero-skill worker make on your world
Enough to survive. That being said, the federal government should leave deciding the minimum wage to the states. What is adequate in one state may be too much or too little in another, and fuck with the market
>If only everyone could make a million dollars bussing tables
Nice hyperbole
>You don't seem to realize that higher wages = fewer openings, fewer jobs, increased inflation, and zero economic effect
Higher wages would result in people having greater spending power. This means more people buying microwaved steaks from Applebee's, etc, etc. That means that businesses would have more money to pay their workers, create more jobs, and the standard of living would go up
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>>157890
I don't know how things work where you live, but here; minimum wage is paid for by the company you work for
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>>157836
how is that communism?
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>>157846
Because peoples' ability to provide for themselves differs from person to person.
I don't think people should live without their basic preventative healthcare needs, at least if they've lived in the US long enough and they've been working to their level best.

If we have no other programs to insure our working class against catastrophe, then we have to set the minimum wage quite high.

>>157851
Economists have done studies that show raising the minimum wage increased employment:
http://davidcard.berkeley.edu/papers/njmin-aer.pdf

>On April 1, 1992, New Jersey's minimum wage rose from $4.25 to $5.05 per
hour. To evaluate the impact of the law we surveyed 410 fast-food restaurants in
New Jersey and eastern Pennsylvania before and after the rise. Comparisons of
employment growth at stores in New Jersey and Pennsylvania (where the
minimum wage was constant) provide simple estimates of the effect of the higher
minimum wage. We also compare employment changes at stores in New Jersey
that were initially paying high wages (above $5) to the changes at lower-wage
stores. We find no indication that the rise in the minimum wage reduced
employment. (JEL 530, 523)
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>>157791

The reason he gives for his layoffs is that it's then cheaper to automate. Well, hell, plenty of restaurants already have done that.
If it were up to these guys, there would be no minimum wage and we would model our economy off what is taught in macroeconomics 101 course; a.k.a. gross, frequently disproven oversimplifications.

Of course, even if minimum wage isn't livable, technology will still eventually prove cheaper. If it were up to these guys, there would be no minimum wage and eventually we'd be arguing whether the factory conditions we see in Shenzhen are too good for the American working class because it's better for the working class to hire 10 workers at 80 cents an hour than 2 workers at 3.50$ an hour. "It's just economics, libtards!"
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>>157894
Who cares if he's making alot of money? The only people who lost in this scenario are the poor suckers who got fired
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>>157891
>Or they could just replace them with robots.

lol. they will replace them with robots anyway.
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>>157756
After looking at this post the government increased research for the cure for mental retardation
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>>157748
>the minimum wage for tipped restaurant employees
>for tipped

"ERMAGGERD, THOSE WORKERS HAVE IT SO EASY IN JEWYORK! LOOK AT ALL THE PERKS THEY HAVE! SO SPOILED, ERMAGERD"
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>>157757
>>157759
>>157770
>>157800

you are all stupid and just because you circlejerked in heckling that anon doesn't make you right. He is right; if the motive is profit, he should then buy the cheapest resources he could get his hands on and sell them as expensive as he could. But that'snot how real economies work. If word of mouth gets around that your business is shady and shitty, you will lose customers.
If you demand a price from the consumer which the consumer cannot afford, he will not pay you at all. You will get nothing. Meanwhile, a capitalist who charges affordable prices, lower than you, will sell and make more money than you.
It was pretty easy to understand if you suddenly didn't get so defensive.
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>>157851
but I thought the West had elevated the people's standard of living. Did you lie to me anon?
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>>157889
>high skileld workers in the areas where they are working.
>Professional microwave engineer
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>>157935
That's exactly what we are saying retard.
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>>157935
>>157940
>If word of mouth gets around that your business is shady and shitty, you will lose customers.
In other words. no one is going to go to water park that has shit water
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>>157941
...or eat in a restaurant which has shit food, you fucking morons

Do you know what an analogy is?
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>shitty restaurant and department stores are going out of business
>It cant be us! FUCKING MINIMUM WAGE!!
Im sure the minimum wage shit is a problem but applebees is literally so fucking awful. I dont think anyone cares when ruby tuesday went out of business as well.
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>Go to New York
>Have the creme of the crop of restaurants serving dishes from all around the entire world
>Decide to go to Applebee's instead

Why?
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Maybe this will inspire all those workers to go get jobs at somewhere that isn't fucking Applebee's. Best case scenario, Applebee's finds that the city is no longer profitable for them and has to pack up and leave.
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>>157942
What in the fuck is your point? How does this relate to this guy firing his employees?
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>>157910
>Poor suckers
Do you enjoy getting cucked by those who have it way easier than you?
>Poor suckers are the ones who lose here
If every businessman decided to cope with an increase in the minimum wage this way, no one would be able buy their shit
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>>157956
>Implying it's so fucking easy for people to afford housing, food, and education
The price of college tuition and rent in New York basically bars the poor from having any sort of upward mobility
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>>157956
>Maybe this will inspire all those workers to go get jobs at somewhere that isn't fucking Applebee's

sure, I mean why aren't they working for NASA? Don't they know it pays better? Stupid fucking drones, man...
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>>157984
I'm saying is everyones shitting on the business franchise owner, and it's not their fault. The only ones who's lose out in min wage increases are workers, contrary to opinion.
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>>157973

Not that anon, but I think he's saying the practice of shitting on your employees is akin to using garbage water for your water park. Now in the age of social media and more attention to the subject of self-care, a restaurant stands to lose a lot by acting like this, especially when its food really, really, really wasn't that good to begin with.
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>>157990
These workers lost their jobs because their boss is a greedy, stupid cunt. Not because of minimum wage laws
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>>158000
Why do you say that?
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Chain restaurants are so 20th century. Applebee's is blaming the dog for their own flatulence.
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>>158003
Their boss claims he couldn't afford to continue paying them, but he still makes plenty of money even after the hike (if my very imprecise calculations are correct)
Inb4
>He has the right to fire people whenever he want for every reason you dirty commie globalist
I'm not saying he doesn't have the right, but he's a piece of shit for putting profit above people's livelihood
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>>158006
*He has the right to fire people whenever he wants for any reason
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>>158006
How much does he make? How much of his money would he need to give up to keep the employees he fired?

Do you know or are you just talking out of your ass?
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>>158006
Also, how much does he stand to gain by automating? You have to factor that in as well to his losses.
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>>158006
>You make more money
>Therefore you have enough money to pay for everyone
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>>158000
Since I doubt you have any actual concrete information to back that up, I'm going to assume you're just a dumbass
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>>158006
Are you implying he doesn't deserve the money he's making? He's the one who put the effort to build the franchise.

He's not forcing anyone to work for him, but you must make a profit for the business to run. Have some perspective.
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What?!
A rich white guy blames paying more to his workers are making him less profit?!
Why has the world change so much since the 1700s?!
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>>157789
>Applebee's business is down to begin with, they really don't have the 10 tables filled for the servers.

If that's the case then the company is blaming minimum wage to hide the fact that no one wants to eat there.
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>>157875
>Also if the people working there were worth a higher salary, then they would be paid a higher salary.

Most companies don't pay workers what they're worth. They pay whatever they can get away with. If companies actually paid people what they were worth then wages would have kept up with the rise in productivity.
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>>157794
>when cuckservatives accidentally promote communism

You dipshits will come around eventually.

>>157903
It's as if people actively ignore truth in order to promote their own shitty worldview. Remember, the only thing that affects the economy is how much businesses make; not how much people are able to buy and spend :^)
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>business so reliant on underpaying their workers that they can't adjust to an overdue wage hike


Bless this mess.
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>>158062
>>158066

Minimum wage laws don't hold any water in economics. It's a stat proven fact. I don't see how people even talk about it still.

Economic testing proves that minimum wage laws always raise unemployment rates. See below for tests.

https://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/let-data-speak-truth-behind-minimum-wage-laws
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>>158070
God I wish people saw it this way anon. Instead, they see everything in red or blue.

This happens all over the fucking world, and is easily exploitable in the States, where we have a significantly higher standard of living. "Just sell your phone for food man lol it's not that hard! BOOTSTRAPS"

For the record, I'm fine in life and well above minimum wage.
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>>158073
If you're selling your phone for food in the USA, you're worthless from the getgo
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>>157993
Why would it be the employers fault. They raised minimum wage, which cut into not only profits, but operation costs.pls take economics 101
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>>157776
we've got a white-trasher

ever learn how to cook yourself?

are you one of the fat ones or a skinny one with acne?
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>>158085
>The art of the shit post *for people downs
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>>157748
New York is on it's way to become poverty stricken and I don't care one bit. Hopefully their poor people will attack and kill those with money.
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>>158091
Like the Bolshevik revolution?
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>>157748
>shit tier poorfag fastfood workers demand more more money for being plebs
>government aids and abets
>its now law to pay them more
>company bypasses it and fires 2/3 of them which is legal

shrek
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>>157949
because muh chain restaurant meme
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>>158097
It's not isolated to one chain
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>>158099
i feel the same about them all and i deliver for a pizza restaurant, anyone who views this shit as a long term thing is mentally retarded
i literally am doing this for a bit of spending money (ie booze cigars and food) and to cover a bit of tuition

anyone thats in their mid 20s or later and still doing it and has nothing better in the works is a failure and will either spread their cheeks for the higher classes or will end up on welfare
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>>158100

>anyone who is not a manager ater 30's is a fucking looser

ayyyyy lmaooo... good goy!
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>>157949
Because most of the state isnt NYC and Id like something besides italian from time to time. I still dont go to applebees but thats their business model in my area.
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>>157796
Terrible.
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>>157756
>a business that makes money is a bad idea

Wew I don't know if you're pretending to be retarded or actually retarded.
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>>158068
>You dipshits will come around eventually.
He's talking about a Libertarian idea.
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>>158067
>Most companies don't pay workers what they're worth. They pay whatever they can get away with. If companies actually paid people what they were worth then wages would have kept up with the rise in productivity.
Why would you possibly think that? Automation, globalization, immigration, and population all reduce the value of labour. If they were being paid the same, they'd be getting overpaid.

Globalization though can have the effect of sending all low wage jobs out of the country, thus increasing the overall wages in a country. But by doing so, they drive those low wage workers into higher wage jobs, thus lowering the value of labour in those higher wage jobs as well.
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Applebees is terrible. It isn't a surprise that they don't make enough money to actually pay their employees
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>>158073
I'm just seeing the math. This guy owns a shitty franchise in New York. Why would anyone go there if someone could have his exact same model, exact same quality of food, but with cheaper prices?

What exactly should he have done?
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>>157748
>Tankel’s challenges in the wake of New York’s minimum wage hike is not unique to his Applebee’s franchises.

Deflecting. Applebees has been shedding workers and profit for over a decade now.

No one wants to eat there because it's boring and has nothing to stand out about it besides being cheap, and millennial don't like sit-down chain restaurants.
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>>157758
>unwilling to have a smaller profit?
Neither, they're just not making any money because Applebees is a failing business. They've been in customer-loss free-fall for over a decade now.
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>>158160
It's not about Applebee's, it's about min wage laws
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>>158174
>It's not about Applebee's, it's about min wage laws
Except it's not. Applebee's has been shedding customers for a fucking decade. They're a failing business and Tankel wants to use this as an excuse to why they're failing.
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>>157756
>people who go to the park notices it uses shitty creek water
>nobody likes the park
>nobody goes to the park and it closes while Schlitterbaahn gets a flow of new customers
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>>157761
If they make even $1 worth of profit applebees will most likley stay open because they have a lot of assets.
There is always a future for more profit if you dont go bankrupt.
Even if they dont make profit, they will stay open because of loans and whatnot.

The minimum wage only benifits corrupt unions, and people with higher skills, and crushes low income/low skilled workers.
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>>158159
>>158160
>>158176

Then he's really fucking up by automating I guess. Should just liquidate if what you're saying is true.
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>>158176
And the new minimum wage laws are not helping. If he has to pay his employees more money and retaining fewer customers, the only logical solution is to cut staffing.
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>>158184
Or to improve your product to get more customers
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>>158182
>Should just liquidate if what you're saying is true.
This is actually true-but he can't because he's beholden to shareholders, and using this he can keep an extra few years of getting profit for himself arguing he's 'trying to turn the company around'
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>>158176
Starbucks cuts hours, sheds workers to meet min wage requirements

http://www.westernjournalism.com/starbucks-workers-learn-the-grim-reality-of-a-higher-minimum-wage/

Min wage increase negative effects to McDonald's, encouraging automation

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/03/31/how-higher-minimum-wages-will-impact-mcdonalds.html

Seattle Study shows min wage laws cause unemployment increase and forces business to close house

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/06/26/new-study-casts-doubt-on-whether-a-15-minimum-wage-really-helps-workers/?utm_term=.c85c3b0e9b0f

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/06/29/seattle-commissions-new-minimum-wage-study-after-dismissing-first-results.html

It doesn't matter. Everyone loses in minimum wage law mandates.
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>>158189
An improved product doesn't guarantee more customers. The simplest and most effective way to compensate for this rate hike is to cut jobs.
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>>158194
Not everyone gets hurt with min wage laws.
Higher skilled employees might get a job, or corrupt union bosses get a bump to their donations for campaigning for this bullshit.
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>>158190
He is more likely to be sued by shareholders by spending a massive amount of money automating a business doomed to failure in bad faith. There's no way they aren't going into the red for a bit doing this.

If anything, his being beholden to shareholders is why he must fire all these unnecessary, overpriced employees.
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>>157778
hurr durr, muh grammer.
If you wonder why your life is shitty, I think I've found a good place to start.
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>>157815
D... Do ya pity the fool?
How much have the A teams rates gone up, by the way, asking for a friend.
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>>157845
>Has to run a business,
>Says he cant afford to keep employees.
>The response is Hes just a greedy asshole who is hurting himself.

You fucking garbage actually believe he is hurting his own business? No fuckheads, you were warned this would happen, now you cant even afford iphones to pass the time in your public housing.

Good luck convincing anyone giving you tards handouts is worth it, btw.
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>>157937
uses internet to complain about how bad things are as a 1st world peasant. Have you not been outside Anon?

Community college is always an option btw, though I guess that being retarded thing might hold you back.
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>>158194
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/posteverything/wp/2017/06/27/seattles-higher-minimum-wage-is-actually-working-just-fine/

I love this study, because it's pulled directly out of someone's ass. They literally just didn't take data from 40% of Seattle's businesses, or compare it to market trends
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>>158200
>>158200
>He is more likely to be sued by shareholders by spending a massive amount of money automating a business doomed to failure in bad faith

How are they going to prove it's in bad faith? Especially with hours of him going on Fox and hand-wringing.

Applebees is already circling the drain. He's prepping to parachute.
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>>158223
By spending a shit tonne on automation that he doesn't need to spend? What is this mad mans endgame? It'll leave him poor too. He'd do far better just cashing out on top than investing in a failing business.
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>>157751
i HEARD YOU LIKE COMMUNISM?

not cool brah

>>157751
LOL
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>>157794
you didn't vote for Trump you lying rat commie

>listen guys I love America but actually I hate it haha trust me
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>>158222
>Uses Wash Post article to discredit Wash Post article

Interesting strategy cotton
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>>158022
http://cepr.net/documents/publications/min-wage-2013-02.pdf

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2015-05-27/finally-an-answer-to-the-old-minimum-wage-question

When people make more money, they have more money to spend on microwaved steaks. What goes around, comes around. Mark my fuckin words. This will bite Tankel in the ass
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>>158068
>the only thing that affects the economy is how much businesses make. not how much people are able to buy and spend
I hope you're trolling. Businesses don't make money when people have no money to spend
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>>158241
>People have more money
>Companies pay out more money
>Companies adjust / increase prices

Thanks for trying
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>>157794
>give everyone who has lived in this country for a while and is working as much as possible a guarantee of a minimum dignified standard of living


immigrant.
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>>158266
>>Companies adjust / increase prices

Companies adjust anyway.
Companies will use robots anyway
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>>158709
>immigrant

top kek. immigrants son are ya.
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It's almost like.. setting an artificial price for something.. doesn't work.

:thinking:
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if applebees wasn't a shit place to eat, they would get more customers than they do, resulting in more profits and the ability to keep more staff. but since applebees is shit, they don't get a lot of business. applebees is basically crying about not being able to keep staff count high because they have low profits because of shit food. this is exactly how capitalism works.
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>>158195
that is completely applebees fault for being a shit restaurant in the first place.
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>>158739
>Min wage effects everyone
Muh Applebee's
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Don't eat at Applebees if you think it's so terrible. I think it's a shitty place, too, but evidently a lot of other people think it's good enough for their money.
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When I was a kid there was a scandal in our town involving Applebee's. The manager got into a cocaine-fueled knife fight, and died. Outside of his restaurant there was a giant oak tree, so his co-workers put a bow on it to commemorate him. The tree was struck by lightning the next day.
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Non-American Here

Can someone explain to me why this specific fastfood chain is shitty as you say it is
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Right, "minimum wage" is the reason they had to cut their workforce. Not that they are making people wait 20 minutes to eat dogshit.

http://www.businessinsider.com/millennials-endanger-casual-dining-restaurants-2017-5
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>>157749
this! applebees fucking sucks!
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>>158765
high priced regular diner food.
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>>157748
It's almost like he overexpanded his business on the back of employee exploitation.
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>>157748
>he has to pay them 50% more so he fires 66% of them
something doesn't add up
this dude is running a failing business and wants to blame the people trying to stop him from fucking over his employees
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>>158765
The food is okay, but its priced as iff it were good. Most of it is frozen when it comes in and gets microwaved. The only things cooked on site are steaks and pasta. If everything on the menu were $3 cheaper itd be the hottest place in town but for what it is its just expensive. Most local places will have better food at the same price or the same food but cheaper
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>>158731
People artificially price products and services as high as they can get away with, why not artificially raise the amount of money you have to pay your staff to keep up with basic needs?
The job market is fucked due to globalisation and rising populations and employers exploiting the cheap labour are creating a third world tier class rift
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>>159169
If you want price and wage controls I suggest you go to Venezuela.
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>>159169
>"Artifically" raise prices as high as you can

I'll take "things people who've never run a business say" for 200
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>>159169
>as high as they can get away with
No.
They raise them as high or low they think a consumer will pay for their product.
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>>159237
Same thing. If no one will pay $500 for a plate of chicken tenders then he obviously can't get away with pricing them that high
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>>159257
And?
He will go out of buisness unless he can price it closer to what the consumer wants, or try and convince the consumer that it is worth that much
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>>157796
When your too lazy to microwave your own food, Applebee's. I work there.

>>157764
Only if it isn't "Well Done Enough", You get stupid ass customers that want extra well done, or well done steaks and then bitch that it's juicy and want an up cook. They want to eat shoe leather. Or, even worse and this boils my blood as I cook the steaks, you get some dumb ass that orders Med-Rare, and cuts into the thinnest portion of the steak, and because the cutter that morning decided he wanted to do origami with the meat, and it's medium but the rest of the meat is med-rare. I just put grill marks on one side and grey up the other and send it out raw, 50F-80F, because Fuck Them. I usually get the compliment back that the steak is perfect, in those cases. Fucking dumb asses can't order a rare steak.

All raw meat isn't microwaved and some sides, everything else is fair game.
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>>159257
What's your point?
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>>159319
>>159260
My point is that "as high as they can get away with" and "as high or low they think a consumer will pay" are the exact same thing.
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>>159334
But you make it sound criminal, they arnt getting away with anything unless they violate contract law and lie about the product.
They are not "getting away" with anything.
The process is entirely voulentary.
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>>159334
Yeah but you're making it sound like that's not the most logical thing to do, which it is
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>>157835
>>157836

You actually think that paying people a decent wage is bad? You think that employers should have the ability to pay a person less per month than their rent is?

You actually think that universal basic income is a bad thing for some reason?

Like, what?
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>>159814
Employers don't decide how expensive the rents are. It is not an ability or right to have. It is in first approximation unrelated for the decision of how much the employer should pay.

He should pay as much as is required for someone to work voluntarily. UBI is not a workable concept because you can't create means of recompensating work out of nothing.
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>>157939
>It's a fucking table dude. Just four planks and a sheet of wood goddamn, don't complicate this.

>It's just a person. Draw a stick figure and be done with it.

>Do you really have to add all these squiggles to words you're writing? What in the hell is a flourish? You're making it harder than it needs to be. Just use a pencil and write in print. Writing is easy.

Ladies and gentlemen: Anon's mindset. The kind of guy who gets confused by latte art on instragram, has actually got it all figured out.
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>>158765
overpriced average food. Instead of bothering to improve their food. the food chain is blaming millennials (who are basically food porn freaks) and non soul crushing wages
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>>157942
Logic is lost on these retards, move on
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>>159955
>Applebees is any of this
What you are thinking of is a michelin star joint out in wine country serving meats from local farms and seasonal vegetables. Applebees is literally microwaved food served by anyone who can stop swearing for most of their shift. If Applebees were a table it would be 4 2x4s cut almost the same length with particle board nailed to the top. If it were a portrait it would be a crayon stick figure. If it were a signature it would be print and comic sans
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>>158078
If they were making so little profit that they needed to fire 1000 employees then the business was already garbage. You understand? Waiters here make 10.50 an hour plus tips and the restaurants operate above profit lines so... sucks to suck.
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>>159334
>>159343
Because instead of being honest and saying "fuck you all wanting to get better wages; I want a third yacht" businesses fool corporate bootlickers into thinking that the only way to cut costs is to screw over workers.

It's their right to lay people off in order to pocket more money, but at least be honest about it.
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>>157748

In my opinion, cutting 1000 jobs was something they needed / wanted to do. Automating servings would probably be their ultimate goal. If this is true, then the "min wage hike" is an excuse.
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>>157756
This might be one of the dumbest analogies I have ever read in my entire life. Congratulations!
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>>157748
>Have to pay 7.50 instead of 5.00 per hour for your employees
>cut 2/3 of them, twice as many as it would take to equalize costs with old wage
Yeah that math doesn't add up
Pretty sure nobody gives a fuck about Applebees any more because who the fuck even wants to eat at applebees. They are the most generic and unexciting restaurant in the country and the elderly people that kept them in business are dying.
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>>160337
It says 12.00 instead of 10.00, 15.00 in 2018
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#4dayworkweek is the answer to all this madness. People only working 4 days will require more workers, and the greedy businesses will be forced to hire more people.
Unemployment= vastly reduced.
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>>160360
IMO the most intelligent thing we could do as a civilization is implement universal basic income + promote automation + encourage those not skilled enough to find work to have fewer children.
This would fast track us to post-scarcity.
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>>160360
Unemployment is already vastly reduced, to the point that many people who shouldn't have jobs, have them anyways. While the idea of a 4 day workweek is nice, corporate america is perfectly fine with either making one employee work 5-6 days a week, or abusing temp workers until they're ready to be replaced.
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>>160369
There are a lot of things that those people could be trained or educated to do. Some fields simply can't be automated, and there are some things which are automated but shouldn't be. I'd much rather talk to a human than a robot on the phone, for example.
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>>157791
>comfortably talks about firing 2\3 of his labor in a less then a year with no reciprocation's
>thinking anyone would actually believe that
>look given at 1:10-1:11 says it all

He's just giving shitty service by having 1 server work a minimum of 10 tables at one time. Why doesn't he use microwaves too? Could fire all his cooks too. Save a lot of money, goyim.
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>>160369
>>160369
Do you honestly see that happening anytime soon?

Society (global) is amazing at NOT heeding the call, especially when everyone is blowing the whistle. It's not because of ignorance but arrogance

Humans do not really have much longer to keep fucking around like this on Earth. Global Warming is gonna do it's job whether or not there is a global consensus from everyone about if it's even real
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>>157756
you can save money ignoring health codes that apply to your restaurant's kitchen, but it ends up costing you more if you get caught
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>>157748
Blame Trump

>>157756
lol whut?
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>>157823
Maybe one youtuber who`s schtick is to drink water park water and getting ill from it.
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>>157756
Ken M, is that you?
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>>160163
No need to tell the world you are a Braintlet
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>westernjournalism.com
>conservative opinion site

This is not /news/




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