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https://www.technologyreview.com/s/609620/global-warmings-worst-case-projections-look-increasingly-likely/
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>Abstract
>Climate models provide the principal means of projecting global warming over the remainder of the twenty-first century but modelled estimates of warming vary by a factor of approximately two even under the same radiative forcing scenarios. Across-model relationships between currently observable attributes of the climate system and the simulated magnitude of future warming have the potential to inform projections. Here we show that robust across-model relationships exist between the global spatial patterns of several fundamental attributes of Earth’s top-of-atmosphere energy budget and the magnitude of projected global warming. When we constrain the model projections with observations, we obtain greater means and narrower ranges of future global warming across the major radiative forcing scenarios, in general. In particular, we find that the observationally informed warming projection for the end of the twenty-first century for the steepest radiative forcing scenario is about 15 per cent warmer (+0.5 degrees Celsius) with a reduction of about a third in the two-standard-deviation spread (−1.2 degrees Celsius) relative to the raw model projections reported by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. Our results suggest that achieving any given global temperature stabilization target will require steeper greenhouse gas emissions reductions than previously calculated.
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>humans are typically absolutely terrible at predicting
>we do it anyways
>try to predict the weather out years and years ahead from now
>have a 95% failure rate when predicting the weather and temperature
>believe anything that they say

>OP uses "technologyreview.com" as a news website
>includes no detail

Get absolutely completely fucked OP and your fear mongering.
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>>204916
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6od76UNHt-M
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>>204916
When you die, I hope you go to hell.
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>>204916
You COULD have just said "I have absolutely no idea what I'm talking about but I disagree with you anyway"
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>>204906
Well I'll be dead by then so "you chose this future" speech.
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>>204916
>have a 95% failure rate when predicting the weather and temperature
This is an appeal to emotion, that the weatherman never gets his predictions right. We're actually really quite good at predicting the weather in the near future, as in, even a week or two out.

In any case, weather is phenomena that happens on a local scale of time and space. There are many and varied factors that have a significant influence on weather. Climate involves general trends as wide as covering the Earth and over as long as geologic timespans. When we're looking at a system that size, the local variables that differ from one location to another nearby and change on a daily basis fade into insignificance. There are only a few variables of significance, and of those you would need to look for which are changing in tandem with rising heat content of oceans.

It's like if you were to run a current through a metal plate. you would have difficulty predicting the path of a single given electron chosen at random over a very small timespan, because their movement would look random, they would pulsate everywhere, and be in communication with adjacent electrons and nuclei that would significantly influence their path. But if you're looking at the overall motion of the current, you would be able to conclude with certainty that all that matters is the direction of the voltage differential and the shape of the plate.

>>204970
Future generations of people like me are going to live beyond my lifespan. I may not be around to appreciate what happens or to continue to appreciate Earth's unparalleled and irreplaceable biodiversity, but they will.

And for me, that's good enough. Appreciating that other people will exist and indefinitely be able to enjoy greater wealth, better science, fewer religious taboos, and our ecology.
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>>204983
>We're actually really quite good at predicting the weather in the near future, as in, even a week or two out

Holy fucking shit you know that's the not the discussion. Nobody uses next week's temperature for or against global warming.


>In any case, weather is phenomena that happens on a local scale of time and space. There are many and varied factors that have a significant influence on weather. Climate involves general trends as wide as covering the Earth and over as long as geologic timespans. When we're looking at a system that size, the local variables that differ from one location to another nearby and change on a daily basis fade into insignificance. There are only a few variables of significance, and of those you would need to look for which are changing in tandem with rising heat content of oceans.

Jesus christ buzzwords
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>>204996
>Nobody uses next week's temperature for or against global warming.
yeah they do. you compare next weeks temperture to the average of that week...of every year before.

wew lad, this is the most basic of concepts
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>>205003
So we use an unknown number of next week's temperature, to compare to last year's temperature? Just try to think that through.
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>>205003

> wew lad

------> /b/
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>>205005
>well the past 5 years its gone up an average of x, so odds are y will be...
fuck that was hard, almost had to graduate highschool to know that one

>>205006
>an actual argument
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>>205011

Dumbass, /b/ is where all the tryhard faggotrons who dropping retard memes belong. It is self-evident and requires no argument, like water being wet.

Now who's supposed to argue you fucking britbong?
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>>205015
>It is self-evident and requires no argument
yeah not an an argument
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>>205016

Bullshit.

"Wew lad" is for tryhard faglords who need to be shot, burned and livestreamed for the enjoyment of real anons everywhere.

/b/ is merely a containment board for such persons while we wait for volunteers to remove you from life.

You'll notice we are arguing now just like you wanted, so don't act like you're unhappy that I'm saying these things : )
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>>204983
I blame the American education system for why the average person cannot understand why a single isolated event cannot be predicted well, but a statistical analysis was numerous data points can be much more accurate.
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>>205021
yeah, lets get back onto topic. your arguing that using the past years to guess the next years weather is wrong, because...i said wew lad.

wew lad.
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>>205023

-------> /b/
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>>205024
like i said, not argument. i even brought up the argument your failing to argue agaisnt, just for you

so, yeah, wew.
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>>205025

/b/ullshit, you're a wewlad faglord /b/ulletsponge /b/egging to spontaneously com/b/ust on youtu/b/e.

Fucking /b/rit/b/ong /b/e gone with you.
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>>205028
imagine being so angry that you cant refut the concept of averages....wew....
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>>205029

Fine.

--------> /pony/
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>>204906

>What was the Late Ordovician Glaciation?
> Why do 'climate scientists' run screaming when actual scientists (geologists) bring up the Late Ordovician Glaciation?

Really makes you think.
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>>205030
boy that non-argument really worked the last...what, 3 or 4 times you did it. i guess averages really are out of your comprehension. may i recommended to wew any facility that has adult basic learning courses?
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>>205011
that's using past year's figures to predict next year, you literally said:
>you compare next weeks temperture to the average of that week...of every year before.

that's fucking backwards, you can't use a figure from the future (an unknown fucking quantity) to compare to the past.

Are you clinically retarded or just acting like it?
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>>205034
sure you can. if its been increasing every year, and the future is expected to be the same, you can see how it relates to all the data. take note that the ops post, says "increasingly likely", as in, yeap, they dont know, but all signs point to it.

its not hard. heres another example. its not reallly possible to know if im going to say wew in this post, or my next post, but....

wew
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>>204906
>>204915
Fake news, a study just came out that showed temps not going up like alarmists predictions.
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>>204957
>>204922
Lefties like you don't understand the pseudo science nonsense the alarmists are still pushing.
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>>205036
yeah hello, that's comparing past to what you predict in the future, you it doesn't go the opposite way, you can't use unknown data of the future to then compare it to the past
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>>205062
you absolutely can, you just need to factor in its likelyhood. you cant REALLY know that the sun will rise tommorow, but everything you do assumes so based on the idea that it will.

hell, check this out. the sun will rise 365 times this year. ohhh shit im including the next 27 days that didnt happen into this dataaaaaa wew
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>>205066
you're still using the past to judge what will happen in the future

I swear to god half the people on this website never got through high school
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>>205033

Back.

You're still a fucking faggot who memedrops dumb shit. I don't give a rusty fuck about your argument.

I think we're arguing well enough already. You are overestimating the importance of your opinions. You do not belong on our board.

---------> /pony/
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>>205069
of course you dont give a shit, acknowledging that your argument is citation-less, baseless and stupid would, well, make you look stupid. weather reports are 95% wrong, you cant incorporate future data narrowed to s specific range into data sets....deflecting onto my choice of words like that isnt a fallacy in its own right isnt that bad of an attempt, but wew, even the "ponyfag" group you claim im apart of knows better then that.

so...wew lad. cant even link a board correctly
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why does the right constantly belittle the information we now have re climate change - what's the ideology behind it ? can anyone fill me in ? looking for something more than rhetoric about liberal elites here.
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>>205076

I'm not gunna do your work for you by linking, that's your job you faggot britbong.

If you wanna do it for yourself then use 3 greater-than-signs.

----------> /pony/
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>>205082
>now im british
lmao. you went from a decent deflection to a terrible one. how did you even come up with that one. "man, this guy is asking me to cite myself on literally anything and learn basic concepts? must be a bong". i guess...tallywew ol chap?
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>>204983
Meteorologist here. It's a miracle we can give a decent 5 day forecast given the astronomical amount of error introduced into our models. We can't even get the current state of the atmosphere right from which to start our models from.

Also, deserts have been green before and oceans have been deserts before. The world changes. 100 years of human industrial impact is not going to destroy the planet. 50 years of science is not going to be able to view the world's 300 million year livespan accurately.
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>>205089
Meteorologist here, this other meteorologist is fucking awful at his job. that is all.
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Gotta love how news of climate change highlights how embarrassingly ignorant the general public is to even the most basic concepts of math and science. Every credible scientist in the field agrees that climate change is real and heavily influenced by human activity but Joe the plumber still thinks he knows better because it was mildly warm last Saturday and he saw some politician say it's fake on Fox news
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>>205097
>what credible scientists
>oh, you know, the ones i cherry picked, and definitely dont have a financial stake in getting more funding
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>>205098
>what credible scientists
The vast majority of researchers and academics agree that climate change is real and influenced by humans. There is an extremely small minority of actual researchers that disagree with the consensus on climate change. Most of the claims that climate change is fake is made by politicians and investors, who are not scientists
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>>205111
The vast majority of researchers and academics agree that climate change isnt real and not influenced by humans. There is an extremely small minority of actual researchers that disagree with the consensus on climate change. Most of the claims that climate change is real is made by scientists with financial stake behind the claim in relation to funding
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Another thread showing how insane the cult of climate change actually is

Glad you psychos have lost in this issue.
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>>205121
amen, no one believes climate deniers
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>>205081
climate change is basically "give more money to the government so that we can regulate your behavior based upon what we *think* we know about the future."

The left want it because the emotional angle of "save our planet" and this gets reinforced every time they view a picture of a diesel truck. They also use the fallacy of majority (like the 97% of scientists believe it), "If many believe so, it is so." As if that never turned out wrong for humans.

The right don't want it because it's more taxes and there's already too many made up reasons as to why the government reaches for your back pocket.

Think about it this way, if climate change was real, first off, how would you enforce people change? You got some subsidies already for switching to solar, so either subsidies for modifying behavior further or enforcement through government means such as fines or whatever else they create. Here's another example: Gas Company says we will stop drilling oil if you give us money, Government says okay, here's 50% for building a wind farm (which could cost taxpayers billions). Either way taxes increase.

Another reason why people don't like climate change is the situation for countries entering the industrial era and starting to build factories, build cars, whatever else. These would obviously be a huge problem to the global setting, so what should happen? Should the USA just become World Police Force #1 and step on their throats, keeping them in poverty? In terms of pure efficiency, that's what we should be doing.
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>>205123

No, nu-male, man made climate change doesn't exist
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>>205132
If you read literally anything about climate change, all those questions have several solutions. Educate yourself on this subject if you have such a strong opinion and you clearly haven't even had an introduction to the most basic concepts of climate change
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>>205123
No one believes alarmists anymore.
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>>205111
>The vast majority of researchers and academics agree that climate change is real and influenced by humans.
False
Climate science is not even real science.
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>>205097
>Every credible scientist in the field agrees
The field isn't credible
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>>204906
I hope the sun is the cause of global warming and we all die just to spite you preachy fucks.
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>>205155
>all those questions have several solutions
Which ones cost money? Hint: all of them.
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>>204996
buzzwords? Even a moron like me can see what this guy is saying is plain speaking in the format of the sciences. Are you foolish?
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>>205068
jesus, reread it you mad pedant, you make predictions based on past data, predict the upcoming data (next weeks temperature), see what happens and compare your prediction, feed that data into the model, repeat. A data set over a long enough period will help in predictions and theories for the likely outcomes of fixed data sets. It isn't a cast iron prediction, and we do often get things wrong due to unseen factors, sloppy thinking, etc, but to say science is never right and dismiss it out of hand? That aint right.
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>>205082
Is it because he used words that you don't understand he is now britbong? You're dumb and scared because of it. Your children shall be dumb, your seed shall pass from the earth. You know, eat a dick.
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>>205119
See what you did there, in Texas we call that "the cunt move" *winks*
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>>205174
Correct. Even doing nothing to slow climate change costs money. Which one do you think costs the most money in the long run? Hint: doing nothing
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>>205190
I didn't say science was never right in predictions, I said climate predictions were never as accurate as you think because there's too many factors involved.
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>>205193
What makes you think nature won't correct the issue itself?
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>>205089
let me guess, you aren't a very successful meteorologist.
maybe trump would like you in his oil agenda though to make america great again.
you know, to drown the america in flames. would love to see that happen actually. please keep going.
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>>205193
There is nothing you can do about "climate change" it's natrual.
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>>205188
He's not saying anything that's the problem. He just spreading the same alarmist nonsense.
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>>205155
>introduction to the most basic concepts of climate change
It's a lie
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>>205284
Makes me happy Trump enrages you. Keep believing the global warming nonsense.
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>>204906
Kill yourself coal hating faggot.
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>>205283
What makes you think it will? Are you aware of any natural carbon sequestration pathways that scientists are not?

>>205286
Climate change is natural but 400ppm of CO2 in the atmosphere is most certainly not. Google 'CO2 temperature positive feedback cycle'
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>>205089
this. next op will tell us how humans are the reason that egypt is no longer green
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>>205570
Well the Aswan dam really fucked up river ecosystem

a valley that was fertile because the river flooded every year bringing in rich sediment

they dammed the river, allowing them to industrialize and build on normally flooded land

suddenly the land isn't fertile anymore
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>>205038
Actually if you knew about the lies that the more technically aware deniers are pushing, many revolve around precisely this issue.
The behaviour of of high atmospheric models has been an area of much contention with deniers claiming the models over estimate the effect.
This study uses real data to show the opposite is true.

CHECKMATE FOSSIL SHILLS
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>>205928
>CHECKMATE FOSSIL SHILLS

The next 20 years will be game over for them.
They'll still be around.
Just like flat-earthers there will always be fools.
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>>204906
Sage
Stop printing this fake news.
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>>206286
>>205928
Game over? It seems like everyday another argument from the alarmist retards of destroyed. Just last week the facts showed there had been a pause.
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Only thing that'll happen at the end of the century is the death of liberalism, communism, and socialism.
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lol i mean this one
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>>206315
>Just last week the facts showed there had been a pause.
Lies and you know it.
Care to talk about the science.
My point about this being a refutation of a common denialists argument about models, is correct is it not?
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Yeah I heard "immeasurable temperature changes leading to the total collapse of the worldwide ecosystem are due within 5 years" 4 years ago. Keep it up. At this point no one cares besides those few religious nuts that attach themselves to anything that can be construed at "sinful" so they feel that they are the better person
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>>207689
this. there's so much bullshit going around that it's hard to tell the truth from the bs.
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>>206356
this time for real
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>>204996
>weather is phenomena that happens on a local scale of time and space
>Climate involves general trends as wide as covering the Earth and over as long as geologic timespans.
these aren't "buzzwords". he's defining scientific terms that the person he was replying to clearly didn't understand.
>>205068
it's called "extrapolation". It's a statistical technique that has been used for centuries and is universally accepted as valid as long as the data you're extrapolating from is solid enough. Using the past to judge what will happen is literally the only way you can make any predictions about the future. The really great thing is that I learned about this in high school, and you should have too. It's like first-year statistics.
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>>205163
this is a better argument than "um actually no the scientists still think climate change isn't real" which is objectively untrue. I still disagree with you but i respect you slightly more than all the tards in this thread who can't commit to a slightly more logical conspiracy theory.
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>>205283
When nature regulates something, it's usually not in a cost minimizing way.
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>>207828
out of curiosity, what causes you to believe that it is credible?


looking at the fields of "science" these days it seems to me that everything that wasn't a science 50 years ago is very questionable. social science bills itself as a science and it's essentially a front for social engineering.

i believed a great deal in science a decade ago, but i have seen through much of the garbage that bills itself as science these days; anything that i cannot prove myself inspires in me a great deal of skepticism, and i worry that if the planet is ACTUALLY doomed we may not know until the last minute because of the insane overpromising of an inconvenient truth a decade ago.

personally i have no way of knowing if all the data is either garbage or being (intentionally or unintentionally) misrepresented. my wager is that you can't either (because you aren't on the inside and because you don't have a thousand hours to carefully comb through looking for errors)

what makes you believe that it's true facts then?
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If global warming isnt real, then why is it hotter every year? i live in pa. i had snow this time 5 years ago and lots of it. fucking today was sunny out. the other day it was hot.
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>>207884
>Science is constantly correcting itself, why should I believe an overwhelming scientific consensus that has stood for several decades?
Well that raises some interesting questions.
>Why should I believe these antibiotics will cure my pneumonia?
>Why should I believe that the Earth is round?
>Why should I believe that CFCs caused the hole in the ozone?
>Why should I believe that exercise is good for you?
>Why should I believe that deforestation causes mudslides?
>Why should I believe radiation causes cancer?

Because we have lots and lots and lots and lots of evidence. Considering your qualifications are that you're angry and on the internet, and those that say global warming is real and almost certainly caused by humans are intelligent people who have studied this for decades, I'm inclined to believe the scientists. Republicans are the only major political party in the world that's too sensitive to truth and evidence to reject climate science. Congrats on being special snowflakes.
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>>210595
Why would you want to believe any of those things?

Surely it's just easier to believe it's God's will to punish sinners.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgdP5U28jHc
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>>210605
>why would you believe those thing.

You're just another mentally ill Talking Snake Theorist. You have zero room to be asking others that question.

LMAO.
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>>210612
>You're just another mentally ill Talking Snake Theorist.
I think you've got the wrong end of the stick.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOeAXKUK6aM

No talking sneks here.
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>>210613
>No talking sneks here.
Not that I don't believe in the unending battle between good and evil.

But you have to think and act for yourselves.

Can't expect to pray for a fix and have your deity do the heavy lifting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_CZTi8L29c
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>>210613
>easier to believe "god" will punish "sinners"

Lying is a sin, psycho. It is you still playing with sticks.

Clickbait is for those who are not intelligent, watch your own drivel.
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>>210616
>Lying is a sin

Be with God.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPe2EwzGK48
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>>210618
>be with psychiatry

Clickbait not clicked, troll.
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>>210620
>>be with psychiatry
Does seem like it might help you more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVXL2Kd5_tM
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>>210623
>lying is a sin

You are lying again, troll.

You know absolutely nothing about me.

Nothing.

You therefore have no honest grounds for saying that I require psychiatry.

Even a moment's glance reveals that it is you who require mental health care, as it is you who believe in imaginary interdimensional beings.

You are a mentally ill troll lying about others in a vain attempt to mask your own ulterior motives and mental illness, as I have already stated and am now illustrating for you with honesty and clarity.

If you are not mentally ill, then why would you be trying to con people into your cult with false claims and clickbait?

You have made your true nature obvious to any intelligent, mentally healthy person.

How do you like them apples you lying, mentally ill troll?
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>>210623
Hahahaa youre totally rekt you ignorant fundie shitlord : )))

BTFO
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>>210644
>You know absolutely nothing about me.
>Nothing.
>You therefore have no honest grounds for saying that I require psychiatry.
But I have your post.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75JjflWKs98
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>>210647

Which post illustrated that I am the one who requires psychiatry then, liar?

Or are you merely shitposting again?
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>>210645
>you ignorant fundie shitlord
>: )))

You almost got me. ;^)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ugivNRYfjc
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>>210649
Noones gunna watch your stupid clickbait because youre a total sperg lol
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>>210651
>stupid clickbait
Stop blabbering this nonsense.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iK_gNwL2L1Y
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>>210649

Come on troll you started this, don't be a coward now. Back up your words.

I have illustrated that you are mentally ill by pointing to your own posts.

In a vain attempt to defend your lying, trolling self, you claimed above that it was I who needed psychiatry.

So illustrate it then. You claimed you "had my posts", so point to where I stayed something which indicates that I need mental health care.

You cannot, liar.
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>>210605
I grooved, do I lose?
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>>210653
Dude you totally rekt yourself faggot stop pretending. We see stupid fundie clickbait in here all day every day. You're completely retarded bro looool
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>>210656
No. You win.
You win another video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8HGe65uBv4
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>>210658
>>210656
Hey look everyone! Out resident retard is samefagging now hahahhahaa
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>>210655
Much props bro, but he's already braindead you don't have to stomp him any longer lol. He's not a real fundie hes just another stupid sperg who didnt realize where he was shitposting
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>>210660
>where he was shitposting
A Japanese forum for underage shitposters?
What were you expecting here, genuine arguments? The closest we have for the Republican viewpoint is vague science skepticism like >>210595 (implying that we can selectively deny inconvenient discoveries because we don't know anything for certain), and then it's followed by two 12 year olds calling each other names for ten posts. At least one of the trolls attached catchy Russian jams to his useless posts.
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>>210677
For people like you who lack psychological nuance, I only meant to indicate 4chan in terms of its signifigant influence on the interwebs, not an unnecessary fixation on the location of its servers.

As if that weren't obvious.
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>>210659
Not even true.
Why would you lie like that?
Back from Xmas shopping now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-CnWwbeetE
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>>210677
>useless posts
That's not very nice.

I made this excellent thread. smh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sM1LOMZjFJ4
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>>210684
>fixation on the location of its servers
Israel? I bet it is.
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Global warming is going to go down in history as the biggest piece of government propaganda in the history of humanity
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>>210690
Please don't be offended anon, I mean useless in an existentialist sense. As in your posts are useless shitposts, but some people happen to like shit. And your shit is very excellent, highly fibrous, but still solid enough to form beautifully long logs that come out effortlessly. I don't like scat porn, since it's disgusting and unhealthy, but so is the internet. And if you derive your sense of meaning from getting autistic sperglords wound up over nothing, you're doing a good job of it.

So your posts are crap, but quite beautiful crap that I enjoy. Better than people like this >>210684 who think that the phrase "psychological nuance" will cover up the fact that they're trying to say something but are blabbering nonsense. I was saying here >>210677 that you were shitposting in just the right place, since 4chan's influence on the interwebs has been nothing but useless trolling. But he thought I was saying that 4chan's servers are in Japan, and called me dumb. And I spent ten minutes here that could be better spent masturbating or listening to more Russian jams, aren't we all better off now?
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>>210704
>aren't we all better off now?
I was until you made me reflect on the underperformance of by real life turds.

>highly fibrous, but still solid enough to form beautifully long logs that come out effortlessly

Man, I wish.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmhbOgSKF9k
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>>210702
Yeah, it's all government propaganda! Donald Trump has been redpilled and he's doing what's right for us! That's why he's not protecting his private property against the future effects of climate change, because he knows it's fake.
https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2017-12-22/trump-resort-in-ireland-will-build-seawalls-to-protect-against-climate-change
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>>210705
Me neither. Does anybody know how to into shitting like a Chad?
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>>210685
>>210690

Well, hello again you lying, samefagging, shitposting trolling, tryhard fundie : )

Why back so soon, did you not have much money to spend for Jeebuses birthday?
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>>210706
>trump-resort-in-ireland-will-build-seawalls-to-protect-against-climate-change
tiny hands strikes again
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>>210711
Those post were both me. You're improving, but I'm not sure why you keep calling me 'fundie'.

>so soon
It wasn't a big mission.
M&S had 50% off Xmas junk so I picked up a few novelty stocking fillers and some sweets from Sainsbury's.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=et281UHNoOU
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>>210704

You're so full of crap I can actually smell it over my web connection l. Where do i even start? You mixed so many goddamn topics together it's like you're trying to make holiday fruitcake.

4chan doesn't need your recognition to be understood by the rest of the world's digital denizens as the home of almost every meaningful meme and socially networked political protest that ever was.

Surely you were merely attempting satire, were you not?
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>>210715
>not sure why calling fundie
>previously tacking about "god"

Your pills, anon. You need to find them.
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>>210712
Hahahahhahaa
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>>210717
>fundie
Not sure you really understand the words you're using.

>>210605
This post was served with a topping of sarcasm sauce.
It should only be swallowed with a pinch of salt.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzc3QV1DA1A
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>>210716
Still not making any points, unless you're actually trying to say that 4chan deserves respect as an enactor of social change. At least my nonsense didn't claim to be discussing anything other than literal shit.
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>>210728
>deserves respect
Now you're pushing it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CR4rkYGtTrQ
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>>210724

Of course you're not sure, you are a pathetic, trolling shitlord too braindead to realize that when you yack about "god"and post clickbait, you get called a fundie.

Unless you were merely falsefagging, in which case you just need to be gassed and turned into fertilizer for being such a useless clickbaiting trolling sperg.
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>>210730
>merely falsefagging
I'm not claiming to be anything in particular.

If instead of screaming CLICKBAIT you watched a few of these, maybe switched on the subtitles, you might have a more rounded impression of who I might be.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=um20R2F3DlE
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>>210728
>>210729

First you acknowledge that 4chan is an enactor of social change after previously chalk it up as being shitposting, then you acknowledge that your own posting in nonsense which we already knew, and now youre arguing with yourself like a fucking schizo because you still haven't found your meds yet?

Your mind is literally garbage, lmao.
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>>210732

I don't consume clickbait you stupid trolling faggot, watch your shit yourself.
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>>210729
Don't talk to me about respect, you're the one who took credit for my posts >>210715 you fat Swede. Now my waifu who I've never met in person will never respect me. [Spoiler] why is Russian pop so much catchier than our stuff? [/Spoiler]

https://youtu.be/_F39uC9IlI0

Beat that Vlad
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>>210735

Not the trolling anon, sorry I accused you of being samefag. He's trying to sidetrack us exposing his retardation.
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>>210733
>after previously chalk it up as being shitposting
That wasn't me. I'm doing the shitposting not complaining about it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ugivNRYfjc

>>210735
I'm not trying to take credit for anything I'm not a Swede and I'm no fatter than most.
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>>210733
If you're so smart, why don't you speak Latin?

Huius tollat quid gravius? Tolle virgam tuam et desiderat quod non passim velut nobis. Sicut et nos ineptias dicere et loqui puppi deturbat, sed adhuc utitur facti sunt quasi media autistic schooler.
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>>210740
>I'm not a Swede
Spoken like a true Frenchman. You should have stayed out of this fight like the German you really are, then you could keep getting fatter on your spring rolls.

https://youtu.be/v0Of5dY330A
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MODS: PLEASE DELETE THIS THREAD, IT HAS BEEN UTTERLY DETAILED BY A CLICKBAITING TROLL. THANK YOU.

Okay I'm waiting for this sperging shitlord to post again before i reply, hes falsefagging as other anons and trying to start flamewars between those ofnus who are exposing his bullshit.

I'm sorry if I've responded to the wrong posts, wasn't meaning to.
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>>210741
>why don't you speak Latin?
Same reason I don't speak Russian.
Did French at school.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktiONWfSL48

>>210742
>your spring rolls
I'm not Australian if that's what you're thinking.
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>>210747

I AM BECOME CLICKBAIT, DESTROYER OF THREADS.
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>>210750
You're welcome.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sl_pxCAcJz4
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>>210745
I agree with you anon, these other trolls shouldn't make jokes about a topic as serious as widespread climate propaganda. To get the thread back on topic, would you like to discuss the probable cause of all this falsified information? After all, you owe me a response after wrongfully accusing me.

Personally I believe Soros is behind all of it. Nobody else would be sufficiently rich and determined to fill universities across the entire planet will such deliberate falsehoods as that carbon and methane cause the greenhouse effect. I mean, the lies are so deeply embedded that they even claim Venus is hotter than Mercury because of its carbon rich atmosphere and resulting greenhouse effect. Their end-goal is clear; the total downfall of Western Civilization. After all, investments in clean energy such as nuclear and solar will inevitably cause the economy to collapse, giving niggers free reign to rape millions of white women. He's even managed to corrupt the company of our glorious leader Trump, making him build unnecessary sea walls that will bankrupt him. >>210706
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>>210751

MODS, PLEASE DELETE THIS THREAD AND BLOCK THE IP OF THE POSTER ABOVE. THANK YOU.

The troll I am responding to is shitposting all over the news section, including here.
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>>210753

Yes, I would like to get back on the topic, thank you for responding. My next post will be back on track.
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>>210758

Thank you for responding to my response. I'm sure the resulting discussion of subsequent posted responses that are on track will help all of us to come to appreciate others' viewpoints, and allow us to form more educated opinions.
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>>210753

I agree with some of what you say, and disagree with others.

For starters, you have been misinformed about Mercury and Venus, but not for reasons you may think. It has nothing to do with proving or disproving "global warming" Venus has a very thick and dense atmosphere, whereas Mercury has none. In the case of Mercury, it's surface temperature is hotter on one side of the planet than Venus is due to its sheer proximity to the Sun, but it has no capability of trapping that heat in an atmosphere because it is non-existent or nearly nonexistent. Venus does have an atmosphere with a genuine runaway greenhouse effect, but that does nothing to prove or disprove a runaway effect here on Earth. Climate science is legitimate science as is every other science, but admittedly it is still in its infancy. We already know it can happen here because of fossilized plants that reveal pores for diffusing atmospheric gasses which were much larger than plants have today, and also fossilized animals with bodies that could only be supported by cardiovascular systems that were adapted to an atmosphere with a similarly enhanced greenhouse effect.

These things are really quite indisputable, however their implications for our future ARE disputable as you correctly point out. Our atmosphere clearly goes through greenhouse cycles, and we already know that these cycles do not destroy life on Earth, but instead the opposite. In fact, it seems to periodically jumpstart new cycles of evolutionary diversification not destroy it. But that is not the same as anyone claiming today that our greenhouse cycle has the capability of wiping out the Human Race.

Does a greenhouse effect have the ability to force us to continue evolving and adapting further? Sure, of course it does, why not? But to make us go extinct? Maybe, maybe not. But it's absolutely unproven that it could wipe us out, climate science is too new to be certain about this.

I agree with you about Soros, more in my next post.
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>>210763

I believe that recent records from the last few decades show that the Club of Rome and other lefty NGOs and thinktanks prove that climate paranoia is really about subjugating governments by regulating their economies in a way meant to bring about eventual global government. Soros and his kind are clearly reading off the same sheet of music, and the Lefty plan is to bring about global governance by 1% elites through a process of "embracing" different nationalities and merging them for governance under the same umbrella.

In truth, Right extremists also desire global domination, just through different means and with slightly different aims. Their goal is to ignore climate *disruption* long enough that it easily in decreased good supplies, this causing the Earth to be able to sustain fewer people and usher in a social and political revolution that suits the goals of the Right while wiping out the Left and their constituent populations.

Climate change is different than "global warming" even if the Earth does warm by a slight amount. It requires life to continue adapting and evolving as it always yas, but it doesn't necessarily resul in the extinction of the Human race. That's just Lefty fear-based agitprop.

The truth is, we all know that Global Government of some kind is inevitable. Most people really arent stupid enough to believe otherwise. Whats disputable is whos gunna win this social war, and what means are adopted to achieve victory by the winning side. It will require truth, lies, propaganda, science and bullshit of every kind no matter who it is that wins the war.
It will result in a massive loss of life, where it's by climate or not.

We are destined to outlast the Earth itself which means we are destined to face probable extinction a number of times by various means. I have no doubt that climate will be involved. But will it be the specific cause one way or the other? Of course not, at least not for a long time. Will read yours next.
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>>210772
>>210776
+15

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEWIfS7ZIr8
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>>210777

I don't care whether you agree with me or not, you trolled me and you shitposted. I do not forgive that.

Leave our convo between me and the other guy who's mature enough.to communicate like an adult. Your clickbait is entirely unnecessary and I will not view it.

Thank you.
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>>210781
>I do not forgive that.
That gave me a good laugh. Your other posts make me weep.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kp8PmgPW_AI
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>>210777
Godly trips speak truth

>>210776
I don't think that global warming will result in humanity's extinction. I even agree that there will be some upsides to a warmer environment. However, I think it's undeniable that it will cause massive social upheaval that will most heavily impact poor countries that are least able to deal with it. I'd rather not concede that a massive global war of consolidation is inevitable. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and I simply don't believe there is a war going on behind the curtains between nefarious left-wing puppet masters and nefarious right-wing puppet masters. I think they're operating in the daylight, throwing their money around as they please to support their political viewpoints. Nobody questions that the Koch brothers think climate denialism will result in more industry-friendly policies that will benefit them, and that Soros feels the opposite.

I'd simply rather see my tax dollars pumped into research that will help effectively slow or even stop the climate change that will result in a loss of land to the sea, dying ecosystems (they will eventually adapt, but it doesn't happen in a lifetime), massive migrations, spreading diseases, and droughts. I'm not going to sit back and pretend it's fine because I tell myself this is all according to the plan of my Rightwing overlords who wish to consolidate the world's power in a way that I agree with. In fact I think the only proper response to how ridiculous that is is to give this hero >>210784 another (U).
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>>210784

Only you care.

MODS, PLEASE BLOCK THE POSTER I AM RESPONDING TO, HE IS A TROLL AND A SHITPOSTER WHO IS ATTEMPTING TO DERAIL MATURE DISCUSSION OF THE TOPIC BETWEEN ME AND ANOTHER ANON. THANK YOU.
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>>210786
Merry Xmas. Have some tits.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sM1LOMZjFJ4&index=4&list=RDaTSdOt62Mpg
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>>210786

Thank you for sharing your opinions, I will take them into consideration. I am firmly convinced that proper evidence exists for believing that a genuine conspiracy exists with the aim of global subjugation and population reduction, by both sides of the social and political spectrum. But i do respect your right to disagree with me, the worst that could happen if I am wrong is that things won't turn out as bad as they might otherwise, whereas if you or wrong the possibility exists that things four be worse than you are prepared to accept at present.

Also, thanks for helping us get this thread back on track after the falsefagging that was going on earlier. I absolutely detest that shit.

On a separate note, I believe the other guy is a trolling faggot whether what hes selling makes any sense, or not. Clickbait is clickbait, and as far as i'm concerned its for assholes, spergs and/or people who are willing to be manipulated by random strangers in the internet. If it was worth viewing, he would have had the common courtesy of giving it a description instead of shitting it all over the place like a monkey flinging his poo around. My attention span belongs to me, and it is neither for sale nor rent.

Overall, I hope your skepticism about the broadness of our 1%s globalist ambitions is well-grounded. I have lost all faith in my fellow man, and feel that thenworst-case scenario is the only one that can reset the clock and get us back on track. I genuinely hope that you are the one who is right, and that i am wrong.
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>>210788
I've posted that already. Don't want you thinking I'm a cheap Xmas gift giver. Have a 'fresh' one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iV76RsmUag8
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>>210789
>Also, thanks for helping us get this thread back on track after the falsefagging that was going on earlier. I absolutely detest that shit.
Can you go and pretend to be a right wing retard on /pol/?
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>>210791
I do all the time lolol, but only to flip shit around on them and destroy their threads.

I'm a Jewish Indian : ))))
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>>210793
>flip shit around on them
By agreeing with their crap?
Good for you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CACFIGzRiGM
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Global Elites will ensure your children died in a war/pandemic well before this becomes a reality OP
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>>210796
Seems unlikely, but thanks for the "warning" my quite clearly poltarded friend.

Keep praying for whatever it is you creatures pray for.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHn21c-P25s
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>>210794

No.

I do it by pretending to be different anons and crosslinking responses, so I do to them in their Jew-killing threads what you were trying to do to us above earlier.

Hipocritical? Admittedly so.

But i don't shit up things with clickbait, that's trollish faggotry. If I can't achieve a worthwhile aim with my intelligence, then my loss is my own fault. Descriptionless video links have nothing to do with it.

There's a way things are done here, anon. You fucked up, and it's that simple. If you are the same anon above throwing "god" at me, then you fucked up worse. Someday you will learn to come at us straight, or not at all. Refusal to do so means that you either lack the mental muscle to fight a good fight, or your purpose is not really what it appears to be and you are trolling people. You should have been able to figure this out already, and you only have yourself to blame for the result.

Feel free to disagree, but don't act surprised in the future if you continuen doing the same and get a negative response. Other than destroying neonazi threads, I play by my own rules, so it's fair for me to expect the same from others who aren't neonazis.

That's all.
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>>210802
gas yourself poltard
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>>210802
>clickbait
Again with that description. Why are these videos so troubling for you?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bkdm1s79zBI
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>>210803

Nah, but LMAO.
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>>210804

I never said I was disturbed by your video. Where did you get that from?

Clickbait not clicked.
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>>210826
>Where did you get that from?
Just your continued over reaction.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WTt14AAuyU
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>>210828

Oh stop playing like a child, we both know for a goddamn fact you dont want me to click your link. Not that I need to but it's simple to prove, and if you're gunna continue making things up and acting like a troll then I'm not gunna bother because it would only help you, and you remain undeserving.
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>>210835
Such a shame.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odfnQBSbaAc
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>>210837

That appears to be untrue.

Judging from your posts and evaluating the apparent intellect of the poster, I have reason to doubt that you would want to share a video worth my time.

I am spending my time here explaining it in a way that would be obvious even to a child, so that other anons don't waste their time overestimating your intellect or the worthwhileness of the material you wish to share.

You are clearly not serious about educating others or wanting to share your point-of-view, or you would not have spentnhave the day trolling and acting stupid. This is how we deal with people like you on 4chan, so if you intend to continue lurking then you had best find a way to enhance your intellectual capability and conduct yourself in an acceptable way, or you will discover that you are wasting more of your own time than you are wasting of ours.

As it is, you are already behind. The way I am handling your bullshit is being observed by more people than you realize, but they are evaluating me and not you, for reasons that you will remain unaware of. I personally benefit from this while you do not. And the less you benefit the higher that i am graded.

You got the attention of what, one, two anons today besides myself? Maybe three? The were into clickbait just like you, yet they were so unimpressed by it that even though that said some crap like "nice trips" and whatnot, *that didn't even bother to explain what they saw*.

The really funny part is... *neither have you*.... not once since i joined this thread.

You are either unwilling or unable to grasp the signifigance of this, and it shows others that you are only a troll which is why your thread has remained the bullshit that it appears to be.

No-one wants what you're selling anon, because you willingly appear to be a clueless and spiteful salesman. You are getting exactly what you are asking for, so don't try to act like "it's a shame".

You are what I say you are: a troll and a clickbait shitposter.
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>>210850
>spentnhave the day trolling and acting stupid
It's Xmas. I shall do what I want.

>wo anons today besides myself? Maybe three?
Implying they weren't all you anyway.

I just like to bump this thread because I know it's significance to the serious AGW deniers. I doubt any come here but just in case.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfhV0Sew0j4
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>>210856

I am utterly amazed that it took you this many hours to put a coherent statement together which mentioned your intended purpose. It would have occurred to an intelligent, genuine poster long before now, revealing that you are in fact a Global Warming shill, and not exactly a purebred troll, per se.

Being a Global Warming Shill was not fulfilling enough, and you could not resist your urge to troll as well, eh? That's quite the error on your part. However, since I would not gain from you lying about it, please accept the consolation prize that I was not samefagging responses to your posts. Despite you arrogantly ignoring the norms of expected conduct for anons here, and refusing to tell us what your clickbait is about just like any other trolling, clickbaiting piece of shit tries to pull on us daily by thinking they're being clever dangling their coyness and looking for bites, you somehow did manage to attract a tiny bit of genuine attention despite your lack of ethical conduct and honest intent.

Maybe next time, you won't work so hard to sabotage yourself, and you'll be willing to come prepared and with your balls attached so that you are able to withstand a thorough and meaningful debate about your own topic.

Your loss has earned you a temporary reprieve, I will now let you be.

Merry Christmas, self-admitted Global Warming Shill : )
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>>210859
>self-admitted Global Warming Shill
Self confessed troll of AGW deniers.
There is a difference.
I doubt you would understand.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75JjflWKs98
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>>210859
An overwhelming and very loud consensus has already been reached by those who are qualified (aka, climate scientists). Despite decades of arguments and actions undertaken by people more intelligent and more determined than us, idiots still go around loudly believing that global warming is a Chinese conspiracy. 37% of the population of this nation is still supportive of Donald Trump when it is absurdly self evident that an orangutan would be as effective as he has been. What good will more arguing do?

Meanwhile this man >>210862 has exposed us to new cultural experiences. In this video he gives us definitive proof that Russians are a bit too fond of vodka. Not to mention he held true his promise of giving me tits. >>210788
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trump
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>>210880

I swear, the day people stop playing shell games with logic around here, I'll probably start growing a pair of tits myself.

I agree that climate change is a genuine phenomena and that we need to be concerned about it. I already acknowledged this above, and my two posts on the subject are the two lengthiest posts about it in the entire thread. Therefore I propose that I care more about this than you or anyone else here, and I have clearly done more to show it, so stop pretending otherwise.

My repeated agreement that climate change is real does not alter the fact that their is NO scientific consensus about the survival implications of climate change and its effect upon the continued survival chances of the Human race. Anything to the contrary is political propaganda, and you know it.

What there IS a broader scientific consensus about are ongoing survival issues like topsoil depletion, deforestation, ocean acidification and nuclear war, to name several commonly recognized by the layman. I could go on and on, but I'm merely illustrating the basic points or the sake of brevity due to posting limit.

However, those things being true do not change the fact that anon is a clickbaiting faggot who also falsefagged us earlier in a trollish attempt to control debate about the subject. Clickbait is clickbait and falsefagging is falsefagging, regardless of his claimed reasons.

I've singlehandedly put more effort into acknowledging climate change than anyone in the thread, including you, so spare me your preaching bullshit.

Climate change is real, political propaganda is 90% of its discussion, and a trolling clickbaiter who believes in it is still a fucking faggot who should be slapped for trying to hijack the debate to stroke his own ego.

I bet dollars to donuts that I know and remember more about this topic without using google than all of you put together, so quit feeding the trolls and add something relevant, or find something else to preach about.

Thanks.
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>>210904

LMAO : )




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