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[Dirt Bike Thread - /dbt/]

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Previous thread:
>>18315317
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Why does everyone hate Ducatis?
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>>18318927
They are designed by italians
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>>18318927
dbt can't afford them and has never ridden one.
It hurts them to hear about things like a Ducati 1098 regularly lasting more than 100,000km without any engine maintenance.
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Yamaha XT 125 X
500 miles
2011
GPR Exhaust
Like new condition
£1200

Worth it? Or should I wait for a WR125 for £1500
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>>18318954
Do it.
fuck the wr125 you won't find one that cheap unless it's fucked.
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>>18318927
Hate is a very strong word. Every motorcyclist I know would love to have a Ducati in their garage. It's not that people hate it. It's just a bit impractical for people who like to be riding on the streets as much as possible. Aside from the SRP, running costs is also quite high.

If there is hate, it is more towards Ducati owners. I'm not saying they are all bad. But quite a few buy a Ducati not because they enjoy riding as an activity but the status that comes with it. Then they start to talk condescendingly about riding, as if owning a Ducati makes them more knowledgeable or appreciative of riding as an activity.
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Cheapo driftbike?
Need long wheelbase or common enough to find an extended swingarm
Tell me a b4 goldwing with crashbars is dumb
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>>18318991
how are dirt bikes and a goldwing even remotely related?
you sure you know what you want?
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>>18319003
Drift, anon
Skidding the rear
4cylinder GLs are old, cheap and most importantly have boatloads of torks down low
Another really cheap option is a slammed bimmer, but I can't find anyone who ever got a stretched shaft drive to work
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>>18318927
Mainly jealousy and memes.

They used to be pretty unreliable with like 8k costly maintenance intervals. When VW bought them, they put a lot of work into improving reliability and maintenance intervals. Now they're fairly practical and reviewers still always love them.
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>>18319022
>Fairly practical
>ECU will shut down the bike if you cheap out on tires
Lel, no
And I tell you this as a vag employee :^)
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>>18319032
>cheaping out on tyres
>on a ducati
what did he mean by this?
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>>18319039
If you don't get pirellis it'll recognize the tire profile and bitch at you
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>>18319044
why wouldn't you get pirelli then?
it's not like they cost more than any other brand that isn't chinese.
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>>18319044
got a source on that? because i don't have pirelli's on mine
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>>18318963
Do you have any idea of the top speed of the bike?
I have read anywhere between 80mph and 50mph top speed.
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>>18319044
But I only ride Bridgestone, like the Doctor says.
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>>18319068
Battlax?
never had much luck with them
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>>18319063
60mph, i doubt you could gear them up any more and have it actually be usable they already run a 14 tooth front and 48 tooth rear sprocket and im not even sure if they actually rev to 9k, says it will do 70mph with 15/45 gearing though but i hate to think how long it would take to get there.
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>>18319071
Yes, these rubbers. Getting a bit rare nowadays.
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>>18318939
>100,000km without any engine maintenance.
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>>18319079
Thank you. I'll give it a think :)
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>>18319054
This is not exactly news, early models would throw a CEL
New ones won't allow you to use traction control and will have a wrong speedo
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>>18319088
Yep, without even touching the valves, 100,000km is the average for needing valve adjustments and 120,000+ is the average for new piston rings, pistons will last 200,000+
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I think the damper gel of my XT's speedometer froze/broke
How to repair?
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>>18319054
>>18319094
One more
You can browse the forums yourself
I member even the guy here on DBT with a white one had to take his in
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>>18319100
And the oil?

>120k for piston rings

You mean you need to tear your engine apart when it's just worn in?
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>>18318988
Sort of agree on the owner thing.
Many get sweet panis and they have fat chicken strips and can't ride for shit (SnewJ)
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>>18319104
every 10,000-15,000km, they have a dry clutch so the oil doesnt get filthy instantly.
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>>18319103
>post from over 4 years ago that doesn't mention anything about shutting down
i knew you were talking out of your ass
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>>18319079
After a bit more research, it seems it shares the same engine as the YBR. I've actually ridden the YBR before and it did 60-65 so that aligns with your picture.

I could not properly wheelie the YBR. The entire time I maybe got it right about two times.
Would the XT125X be too weak to clutch wheelie seeing as its got the YBR engine?
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What about dirt bike thread don't you power rangers and angry boomers understand?
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>>18319132
Never ridden either but if they are anything like my old drz125 you just suck at doing woolies, hard as fuck to get the front wheel off the ground after 3rd gear on a 125 anyway.
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>>18319145
Probably just suck then lol
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>>18319134
Plenty of boomers are into offroading though.
Oh and don't forget about the BMW GS riders hehe
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>>18319234
>BMW GS
>dirt bike
get out
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>>18319134
Heres a dirt scoot for ya
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What's a good price for a 73' BMW R75/5 in good working order? Very little rust (tailpipe), tiny dent in tank and otherwise working perfectly?
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>>18319082
Nice! I need a new pair of bt016's but im probably going the poorfag route and get some conti-motions just to compare.
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>>18319561
drei funfzig
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>>18319561
About $500 and im being generous.
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>>18319561
$3.50
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New bike... whaddaya think?
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>>18319572
>>18319581
Not funny

>>18319577
Where would you even find one of these for $500? Asking price is $3500, and that's pretty okay for Europe.
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>>18319561
are you buying or selling?
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>>18319585
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>>18319585
surely you jest
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>>18319603
Buying, if the price is right.
Going to try haggling for $3000, as the seller needs it gone by 2018. Seller collects and lost his rented garage space.
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>>18319626
If you already knew where you want to haggle, why ask here?

Also, if you are a BMW autist you know what it's worth, if you are not, you shouldn't be buying one
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>>18319561
Miles? Unless it's a low mileage perfect condition survivor (and it doesn't sound like it is) or restored it ain't worth much, $2k maybe?
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>>18319585
I hope you paid less, not more for that sweet custom paint
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Okay so my local CL doesn't have a DRZ400 that I want or in price range. Dealers have a few new (2016's and 2017's) for okay money.
Is there anywhere else to look for a bike?
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>>18319625
>>18319612
>>18319649

I paid $3000

It's stickers, not paint. Not gonna remove it, it looks sweet af bro lol :)
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>>18319641
One should always ask for second opinions, so why not do it here? I know it's worth $3500, according to autoscout and blocket (Swe), but if the owner ends up with an extra bike and no garage I could end up with a good deal.

>>18319646
See above
Where would you find one for $2000?
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Any of you tried replacing your own chain?

I am going to replace the one for my dr650 and I'm scared that I'll do a shitty job and have it break in the middle of the road or something
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>>18319663
start using alloy sprockets then, your chain will last longer.
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>>18319663
DIY YouTube: Replace motorcycle chain
Faggot: Go to your local shop
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>>18319650
You can try cycletrader or bikefinds, also try statewidelist to get a bigger Craigslist area than just your local. And you could try ADVrider and Thumpertalk, they've both got a classified section but I believe you need to make an account to see them.

Though this begs the question of why do you want a meme bike?
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>>18318988

They're definitely hit or miss as bikes. I know a lot of people who have ridden them and hate it. Ducati definitely doesn't fit the mold when designing bikes as far as ergos and whatnot go, they do a lot differently. Panigales are exhausting to ride aggressively and rarely put out the best track times; someone on an S1000RR of equal skill will destroy the pani and do it with less physical effort.

However, they are incredibly fun to ride (for some). I personally enjoy having riding be a very physical experience. A panigale will divebomb on a whim into a corner at breakneck speed and be perfectly stable while doing it, but it will tax the fuck out of you physically.

It's kinda like choosing between riding a thoroughbred racehorse or the wild mustang with a saddle on it. Racehorse is going to win most of the time, but the stang will be a fucking blast, especially if you can somewhat control it.

They're also very small. Guys who are used to R1s and whatnot tend to hate how tiny and narrow the V-twin panis are. We will see if the V4 changes that.
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Who else here /slow/?
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>>18319094
>>18319103

They have fixed this a while ago. Not sure what bike that anon was on, but the modern Panigales and other high end bikes have tire calibration. You basically put whatever tire on it you want, then run tire cal mode and roll around at like 25mph for a bit. The traction control then adjusts to calibrate for that tire specifically. Also can be used when your tires get worn to account for the loss of grip.
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>>18319693
>Speeding
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>>18319663
CC81PT walked me through it. It's easy as shit on that bike. Gather the tools you need, take the time and opportunity to clean the fuck out of that end of the bike and all the bits that come off, lift the ass-end off the ground a little, note where on the little shell-shaped whotsit on each side the little nubbin sits (else your alignment and tension will be off if they aren't congruent), remove front sprocket cover (and clean the shit out of it and what's underneath), remove the shit at the rear, install sprockets and chain, done. Short-version, anyway.
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>>18319699
>numale road bike riders
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>>18319662
Its not old enough, or rare and desirable enough to be worth anything. Old BMWs in general are worth whatever someone is willing to offer, not what the blue book says they're worth, since so few people want them. Offer him two grand and when it's still not sold and he has to vacate the place he'll take it.
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>>18319693
Cuckj?
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Guys I think I'm getting bored of motorcycles
What do
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>tfw no razkull chinkbike to fart around on
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>>18319585
Who buys an akrapovic for a ninja 300?
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>>18319767
Move to a place with twisties
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>>18319719
Guess it won't hurt trying, hopefully some Boomer with too much money doesn't get in the way for me.
>mfw Wh R75 is 30K
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>>18318927
I don't hate them but the only dude I know who has ever owned one drove it to work on his second day of ownership where it proceeded to shit oil and coolant all over the parking lot and had to be towed home

I'll pass
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>>18319774
ikr, it'll sound like the same crap as before, and cost a third of the price of the bike
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>>18319844
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>>18319585
how much did they pay you?
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Where did you ride to today /dbt/, you do have a bike d-don't you anon?
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>>18319844
It was dark as shit when I went to work. It was dark when I got off work. The winds were also stupid. I despair of having decent weather (winds not 30+ MPH, not snowing/icy, sky not completely grey) for it anytime soon.
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>>18319844
nowhere, it was 30's and raining when I left for work. I felt bad though when I could hear bikes ripping up the road around lunch time when it was around 60 degrees
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>>18319853
>>18319857
No riding for a couple of months
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>>18319853
looks cold and not fun, can you actually ride in that?
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>>18319857
yes but it's broken
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>>18319865
brutal, when we'll you be able to ride again?
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>>18319871
i dont know they don't make the part that broke anymore and i can't find one online anywhere
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>>18319873
Have you tried ebay and bikebandit?
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>>18319864
Was going to post a clever photo of 55' BSA with skiis and chain, but no, it's a car.
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>>18319880
bike bandit has nothing
ebay has the entire engine but that will cost hundreds more than just getting the part
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>>18319889
What bike and general area, anon?
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>>18319741
What'chu want, fambalamadingdong?
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>>18319953
squiddy does your misses peg you?
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>>18319674
Mostly just looking for a dual as a first bike. Right now it's down to a 51/49 split between the WR250R and DRZ400 in favor of the DRZ. What ever one I find for the right price.
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>tfw I find out that my PI case gonna be cut in half since I wasn't insured with motorcycle insurance
>even though I had car insurance
>and even though I put a 3000 dollar deposit down on the bike rental

rip in petes ):
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>chavs with fartcan exhausts on 125cc chinese scooter
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>>18319953
is this another dbt trap
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>>18319819
And then they sell it a year later asking the MSRP of a brand new one.
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>>18319650
please don't buy a new drz
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>>18319986
Same one I think
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>>18319663
If anyone hasn't mentioned yet, there are three kinds of master links... The kind that you can put on with your fingers and uses a clip, the kind you need to press on that uses a clip, and the kind that presses on that uses a rivet that requires a rivet tool. Choose the first kind.
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>>18319964
I'm not his misses.

>>18319986
>>18320004
Not a trap, some thot I fugged who had a boyfriend and would send nudes from work.
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>>18320066
omg i love the chin thing, epic
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>>18319819
>>18319990
or worse, get the counterfeit akra off of ali express, then ask more than MSRP because mah akra
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>>18320066
I know that is your arse, i want to know if your misses puts things in it.
if yes, webms?
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>>18320165
Do fags know you need to get a bike tuned for the exhaust otherwise you are killing the power?
and then if you do get a power increase it will likely be giving top end power and killing bottom end/midrange
because i don't think they do.
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>>18320178
well i do
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Post your bike.
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>>18320178
>i don't think they do
I don't think they care. It's all fashion.
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>>18320224
Teh Garage Queen, forever in repair...
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>>18320165
Oh god I guess I should have known, but I never considered there were fakes. Sure it looks neat, but what kind of poser must you be to out that shit know your bike? It would just kill the power.
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>>18320224
yes.
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>>18319768
>cant afford to buy a motorcycle

how fucking poor are you? cant shed out 4k for a jap bike? fucking redneck

>>18319774
>who mods their bikes?

someone who owns a bike and wants to buy mods for said bike
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>>18320252
I can understand modding a bike, but not dumping an akrapovic exhaust worth of money into a cheap 300.
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>>18320178
>if you do get a power increase it will likely be giving top end power and killing bottom end/midrange

i wish someone told me this before I started to mess with the carbs on my first bike
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>>18320271
Thats not a real akra. Its a chinese cheapo slip-on with a sticker.
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>>18320283
I can't tell which is worse: buying a real akrapovic for a "starter" bike or putting a fake Chinese exshaust on. You either spend too much on the bike or put on some cheap shit that's going to ruin performance and look like a poser.
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>>18320298
Who really cares?
i spend more money on stupid shit with bikes all the time and no one ever complains about it.
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>>18319094
>cel if you dont run on supercorsas
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>>18320178
it usually doesn't hurt power anywhere but it is usually a pretty marginal power increase, as in typically below 10% and rarely above 15%.
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>>18320348
>Who really cares?

nobikes and busriders
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>>18319068
all my friends refer to them as Tombstones
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Can anyone identify from what bike this engine might belong,

seems to be from some rare Honda ,most likely a enduro
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>>18320404
out of a ninja 300?
you would be lucky to gain 5hp and all that power would be in the top end of the rev range, you would lose a good 5-10hp in the mid range to gain that top end power.
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>>18320419
the shifter shaft on the right side should help figure it out. post on some old honda forum
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>>18320178

what about 2 strokes, I have a old 2 stroke and am gonna have to find a pipe for it to get the best performance I can, can I put any exhaust pipe on the engine from any 2 stroke similiar x-cc size
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>>18320454
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>>18320458
Depends what you want out of it, i run a fmf gnarly on my 2 smoke with vforce 4 reed valves and hotrods crank shaft for extra bottom end and mid range power.
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>>18320431
i said
%, not hp
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So I go to look at a bike. Call the guy up the day before, he seems to give all the right answers. Bike has never been down, he's the second owner and had it for two years, he has done maintenance etc.

I rock up, first thing I notice is the engine has been warmed up. Second thing I notice is the bent headlight, bent bar end mirror, and road rash on the tail section. Seller still insists it hasn't been down though. The chain is like crusty and holds its shape if you bend it. Etc etc etc it's in average but not terrible condition.

I don't mind what condition the bike is in, but why would you lie about it? What a waste of time.
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>>18320454
That's the kickstarter
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>>18320479
Sellers lie like a rug. Too bad carfax doesn't work for bikes. First time I bought a used car with a carfax subscription at hand I was amazed. Blatent odo fraud, "No accidents" cars that Carfax said had been crashed, twice. Five-owner cars claiming second owner, etc. I don't expect bike owners to be any better.
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>>18320479
>engine has been warmed up

Nothing will make me do a 360 and moonwalk away from a sale

Seller knows something is wrong with the engine, probably has enough technical knowhow to know how to fix it if it were simple, and is also trying to deceive you about it
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>>18320503
yeah, the only reason I believed the guy I bought my bike from was "the second owner" is because the title was dated for 2006 w/ 3k miles on a 2006 model year bike
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>>18320419
What ever it is it is completely fucked.
some 90's 2 stroke though, i am guessing a cr250 maybe.
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>>18320503

You can run a carfax but you won't get detail information like you do with a cars vin. Auto check works too and will give you a break down on how many owners and if the bike has been in an accident.
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>>18320529
chances of it having water jackets around the head bolts is low. also looks more 80s than 90s
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>>18320554
hmm nah it's not even an 80's dirt bike engine, before pic they were air cooled and had fins.
what single cyl road bikes were they making in the 80's?
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>>18319585
Kek I saw this on Craigslist a few weeks ago
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What’s the best website to buy shit for my bike? I want some bar end mirrors and maybe some more useless shit for my bike
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>>18320614
ebay, aliexpress, amazon
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>>18320614
More r6 pics and I'll tell you
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>>18320614
i use revzilla or ebay for all my shit
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>>18320252
i can afford one, but groms are more than i'm willing to pay for an ironic shitbike and there's no SSR sellers near me.
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>>18320634
I haven’t taken many pics. This is before I deleted the fender
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>>18320646
K P I P E
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>>18319857
Nowhere, because you posted this at 2 in the morning.
About to jump on my bike and go to work, just like yesterday.
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>>18320701
A shit
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>>18320701
That thing needs a K-pipe to the face
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overpriced
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>>18320754
Nice image dimensions
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>>18318988
HATE IS A STRONG WORD
BUT I REALLY REALLY REALLY DON'T LIKE YOU
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Pure sex
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>>18320701
worse than the razkull
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>>18320951
They are all shit anon. Might as well get the cheapest one
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>>18320960
they're the same price
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>italians win again
http://www.motorcycle.com/mobos/best-sportbike-of-2017.html
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>>18320925
>that color scheme
Minus the black headlight surround, that looks really quite nice. I'd like to see that scheme on a bike with more body to it, something with conservative but nice lines.
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>>18320984
>best sportbike
Thats like best pointless machine
Who cares
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>>18320984
>win
i am sorry when was the last time italians won dakar or finke rally?
this is dirt bike thread not power ranger thread.
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>>18321046
It's more like the best sniper rifle

The average man given any of them will shoot with the same accuracy. If you gave the average rider USD forks and conventional forks, but on a motorcycle designed to conceal the fork design entirely, they wouldn't be able to tell you which one handled better. I don't even know how you're supposed to tell the difference between those fancy new showa BPFs and the old CBR forks unless you're a hardcore track rat and have traversed the same corner the same way hundreds of times and have data for comparison
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>>18320419
>>18320469
>>18320529
>>18320563
Thats a honda NSF125/MTX125/NSR125/NS125R engine made in italy, Thats why it says ¨Girardoni¨ on the side. Most of /dbt/ is full of autistic nobike soybois that dont really know anyting a about bikes.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Honda-NS125R-NS125F-TC01-MTX-125-moteur-engine-Motor/112635023013?_trkparms=aid%3D888007%26algo%3DDISC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D49480%26meid%3D9d37cad14a2a4daf94da1968b07c49e9%26pid%3D100009%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26sd%3D252594279141&_trksid=p2047675.c100009.m1982
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>>18321046
you wanna talk pointless? beginner sportbikes

>hello this bike has the exact same chassis and engine as that one over there
>but it has fairings so it's cooler!
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>>18321186
except you know fairings keep wind off you
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>get this far
>test fit piston/cylinder
>grab pull start and yank the shit out of it
>KNOCKKNOCKKNOCKKNOCK at TDC and BDC
>check wrist pin/little end
>loose as op's mom
fml
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>>18321186
Yeah. No. Youre dumb
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>>18321204
You don't realize how much until you move to a fully faired bike and suddenly 120mph feels like 60mph on a naked/bikini.
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>>18321164
I hate when people repeat this baloney.

Maybe if you've been riding for a year but anybody who actually rides aggressively will definitely be able to feel changes in suspension.
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>>18321287
Especially if you ride twisties.
I can even tell the difference between having a full gas tank and a empty gas tank unlike all these squidlords that only ride on straight lines
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>>18321320
yeah, can even feel the change of couple PSI either way in my tires
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>>18321320
>muh twisties
Fuck that, go offroad over harsh terrain, you'll feel the difference in suspensions real fucking quick.
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>>18321324
Lol what's wrong with twisties?

It's quite literally the best part of riding.
Don't think I would be totally in love with motorcycles it weren't for muh twisties.
I feel bad for you anon that you don't get to enjoy the greater thrills in life.

And if I want to go off-road I'll use my dualsport
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>>18321352
>It's quite literally the best part of riding.
>Don't think I would be totally in love with motorcycles it weren't for muh twisties.
Bro it's literally leaning and turning what the fuck are you talking about? The best part of riding is being able to do almost whatever you want, freedom of the open air and not being stuck in a cage while cutting through traffic, or busting through mediums, or going offroad and seeing a bunch of scenery, or racing, or doing whatever.

You can enjoy twisties, but don't say that leaning side to side is the best part of riding. It's monotonous to some of us.
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>>18321360
Extremely oversimplified, you can make that argument for literally anything.
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>>18321352
You twistie-wistie fags are really going back to shitting up /dbt/? I thought we were done with this.
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>>18321360
>don't say leaning side to side is the best part of riding.

>it's literally leaning and turning

Oh damn I'm triggered af
Wtf.

Just drive a car or one of those trike things

I already know that you don't have any good twisties where you live because if you did you wouldn't disagree with me.
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>>18321364
>ppl posting traps and gay shit
>nobody cares

>talk about twisties
>reee I hate twisties because I don't have any near me and can't ride for shit. Reee
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>>18321362
True, but it's especially true for motogp wanabe twistie fags
>>18321375
Go on a real track, twisties are not a great example of track days and you'll find yourself building your sharpest skills on the track rather than on twisting roads.

Also, I ride for many, many reasons. Don't tell me to go drive a car just because I'm not an autistic corner carving twisty fan like you are. I don't tell you to stop riding because you don't ride off the roads and trails and into the reason harsh terrains. Not every aspect of riding is for everyone, and I respect you like twisties, but you can really build your skills 100x better on a track so I don't see any appeal to twisties at all.
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>>18321398
>projecting this hard
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found one of those nutjobs that's "I wanna stay virgin 'till marriage so I only do anal"
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>>18321425
Oops meant to reply to >>18321398
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>>18321408
>track near me is literally worse than the twisties
feels good to live in the rockies
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>>18321408
Dude what. I never said I disliked riding off-road. It's fun. That's why I have a dualsport for that kinda stuff.

Just admit that you have no good twisties near you man. Jeesh
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>>18321425
>>18321434
Are you actually serious or are you fucking with me?

I find that hard to believe
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>>18321443
He's fucking with you
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>>18321352
>What's wrong with twisties

You go out to ride like it's a track and then lowside on a gravel filled, diesel coated pothole of cold tires and slide into a guardrail, which splits your body in half so one part can tumble down a cliff and the other can bounce back into the road and get ran over by a logging truck. All while your now-riderless motorcycle runs over a bicyclist and rear-ends a boomer in a corvette.
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>>18321495
not gay but i wud fuk that boicunt
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>>18321495
>implying that ass is anywhere as good as a real woman's' ass.
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>>18321519
That's true.
I know which twisties have bumps and what not.
And also which ones have a lot of cyclists so don't hug the corners on those.

But you have to be familiar with the road. Some twisties I go less aggressive than others.

There is one not to far from me that is great because it recently got paved so the riding surface is perfect.
That's maybe the only one where I ride close to 100% my limit.
I always ride it at a time when there's less traffic but also when the road surface is warmer.

If I'm going to go street Rossi I at least try to do what it takes to decrease my chances of dying
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>>18320529

I am aware of that and am in the process of getting it fixed, its cast aluminium so should be welded

>>18321185
right, It is a Honda NS125f with the ATAC, the part of where is chipped is actually the ATAC expansion chamber, this guy knows his stuff


I got this engine for 20 euros completely as is like in pics in very poor state and it is in desperate need of some help and restoring, now considering its a engine from a 1985 bike which I will never find anyway, I am planing on finding one of those aluminium frames form one of the Chinese dirtbikes (xmotos) for dirt cheap, restoring this thing and slapping it on gonna rebore it as well, the engine gearbox is geared for high speeds (6 gears) so if I gear it down to dirtbike speeds I also get higher torque which is even beter
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>>18321551
if she stood up it's going to be all cellulite-y and sag
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reminder that all European posters should kill them self
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>>18319100
You're full of shit Senpai.
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>>18320614
Revzilla
Motorcycle-Superstore
Sportbiketrackgear

Congrats on the fresh R-Sex.
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>>18319585
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How can you tell when your clutch needs to be replaced?

I'm just wondering what the symptoms are so I can look out for them
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>>18321629
6 months or 5,000 miles
whichever comes first
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>>18321629
Pretty simple really,

If you're riding and pull in the clutch and there is a delay in your RPMS lowering, like it hangs out at whatever RPM you were at before dropping.

Or if you're riding and shift like normal but there is a delay in the RPMS rising while twisting the throttle right after shifting and letting the clutch out.

You'll know, trust me, it won't feel normal.
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>>18321645
lol fucking retard
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>>18321663
t. little old lady
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>>18321667
you ride like a retard if you're winding out your clutch that much
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>>18321645
what lol?
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>>18321629
When it starts slipping
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>>18321695
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thoughts on chink bykz
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>>18321734
chinese bikes?
they are still useless shit.
they are at about the quality and performance of late 1980's japanese bikes.
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>>18321737
>they are at about the quality and performance of late 1980's japanese bikes
You're full of shit lol
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>>18321740
you are right, they are still worse than 80's japanese bikes.
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>>18321746
You're full of shit lol
Go ride your FZ or whatever
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>>18321748
fz what?
best chinese bike i have ridden was a puzey 250 and it was still a shit heap.
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>>18321746
now the japs are industry leaders
really activates the almonds
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>>18321755
yeah, i give it 10-15 years before chinese bikes are as good or better than jap bikes..
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>>18321734
I've had amazing ones and absolute piles of dog shit, all second hand
you get what you pay for, spare parts are plentiful, just look after them
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>>18321352
Because you're riding road like a track instead of just riding on a track. You put yourself and others at risk, especially on two way roads, because you're carving the everloving fuck out of both sides of the road. Anyone that pretends they're at a track while on the road, be it speeders, lane splitters at 100+mph, corner carvers, etc. are fucking morons and inconsiderate to other drivers and potential dangers.

>first rules in an msf course include not going too far around corners when you can't see what's on the other side
>well better slam through twisted no-vis mountain ranges at top speed
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>>18321438
>you don't like to speed through corners on backwoods mountain roads
>admit you don't have twisties
Wow it's like you're unable to read past your own perspective.
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>>18321753
fuck off

chinesse dirtbikes are awesome, okay its shit quality,but for the money you're paying its almost 3 times cheaper then a brand dirtbike

Lifan engines are good and reliable, if properly maintained !
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>>18321806
For the price you pay you could buy a 2nd hand japanese bike that won't grenade in 20 hours of riding.
I have seen chinese bikes crack their frames from riding around the streets in towns never mind any actual off road riding.
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>>18320529
>>18320554
>>18321185
>>18320563


oww shit boys, what are we gonna do dis time *

how fixable is this, i dont have the other piece, im thinking of finding other similar material grinding it down so it would fit and then weld it and use a miling machine to make the surface flat again, also gonna do a rebore anyway if it comes to deformations during welding

if I fail at repair, im sure I can find a cylinder,(multiple models will work), being I live right next to Italy shouldn't be problem
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>>18321815
I told you, it needs a new barrel.
ok well i made the image name new barrel but still.
it probably needs all new internal, the only usable things about that engine would be the cases.
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>>18321821

I have nothing to loose if I try repairing that, also know a buddy that welds and could try it for free, but well see

I checked the connecting rod and crankshaft and has zero play in it so its should be fine, also rotated the transmission by hand thru all of its 6 gears and seems to run smoothly and shifting fells very strong, but surely I will see the true state of it when splitting the cases, peaked at the oil and has zero in it completely dry ,so it has surely been a decade or even more since it had any oil/ran

I like the engine, maybe cause its from the 80s and nostalgia, its gonna get a complete rebuild assuming everything inside is in good condition and a rebore to 150cc so it should develop 30hp+ with ATAC
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>>18321815
JB WELD
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>>18318927
Because apparently they get to play by different rules...which is just an admission that they can't compete in direct comparisons. Look at their new Panigale. They make a, "best in class power" bike that isn't in the same damn class. That's just straight shit talking. But that is SOP for Ducati. Their new V4 is an 1103 in a class that is 998/999's. Then they brag about how powerful it is? Hmm the jap bikes are quoting 200-210chp with a shitty exhaust at 998/999cc's while the speciale is 226chp with an extra 10+% in the motor size and a full exhaust. Do the math...they would simply lose in a direct comparison. And they know it. Then you have the pricepoint...I can get a jap literpeter for what like 15-18k depending on brand and flavor and the base model V4 is how much? 22k? And the speciale is what 43k+ with the optional rims? Again, apples to pizzas. Because they are special. Special rules. Special motors. Special comparisons. Sooper-dooper-pooper-scooper "special" pricepoints. "Exclusive". Pre-optimized boutique bikes. It is bad form. Just like with the 1299. They'll brag how much torque it makes. Yeah fagpoof it better it is a 1.3 liter fighting against a field of 1000's. They'll tell you dry weight with no oil in the forks/motor/no coolant/ no gas/no battery. They'll tell you chp not whp. And worst of all they'll BRAG when the bike already has a full system and an extra 105cc's at more than double the pricepoint. Then their is the whole subjective vs objective comparisons and a lot of reviews ignore the fact that the exhaust fries their nutsack because, "b-but it's so purty!" What does that tell you?

Does that make Ducati's bad bikes? Not really. But I'll take built over bought minus the condescension every damn time.
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>>18321913
Ducati's wet weight for the 1199 was 193kg, so it's not like they're fooling anyone. The capacity differences were always there, in fact the formed the foundation of WSBK and it takes a ignorant retard to complain about them.

The 1299 was a cheater but who cares, kek. They had the R model for racing, so they might as well get extra umph from the road versions. It will be the same with the V4.
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>>18321929
You are literally proving my point.
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>>18321953
Nah, nigger, I'm not. Those rules were there for everyone and if twins were so much better nothing was stopping the Japs from making their own (pic related). And friendly reminder that Ducati has the most powerful engines in MotoGP.
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>>18321913
you sure are mad
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>>18321959
>the rules that were written to specifically benefit ducati applied to everyone!
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>>18321966
They weren't written for Ducati, they were there to balance twins against fours. Every single brand could make a twin of they so desired. Some did, it just so happens that Ducati was the best at it.
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>>18321959
MotoGP is worlds away from streetbikes and we both know it. And case in point the twins aren't better in racing...which is why they get so much bigger motors. Because they can't compete without that clear size advantage. But why not talk about street bikes? I guess they need a gixxer 1100? Or why stop there why not a gixxer 1200? Then gixxer can brag about having the most powerful in it's class too right? Where does it stop? Shit's dumb. SOP for Duc...dumb.
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>>18321964
Not really.
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>>18321966
preach
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>>18321978
They get extra capacity because you can't rev a 1000cc twin to 14500rpm. WSBK regulations were created with that in mind. 750cc 4s and 1000cc 2s.

Any of these brands could have made a twin. Nothing stopped them.
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>>18319768
>no fuel injection
fucking dropped.
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>>18321969
If you cant see how a struggling italian manufacturer that only made vtwins benefitted from rules allowing them to run larger displacements than their cheaper, more reliable, and better built japanese counter parts, then i cant do much for you.
And then Honda made the RC51 and beat Ducati, so there's that.
WSBK for a while was a Europe first' club, and the rules relfected that.
Doesnt mean that Ducati doesnt make sexy as fuckballs bikes, they just have always needed a helping hand to stay competitive.
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>>18318954
If you're planning on having any fun with a 125 just get a 2stroke. Preferably some enduro bike since they are just as thirsty as "road" bikes.
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So is no one gonna comment on the fact that YBR is getting the
B E S T
B E G I N N E R
B I K E
next?

I, for one, am glad the meme lives on.
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>>18321985
>anybody could have spent millions of dollars and countless hours of R&D and retooling their machine shops to build a less efficient machine with a different engine and frame!
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>>18321985
They get extra capacity because the motor cannot compete against equally sized motors. You openly admit it.

>Any of these brands could have made a twin. Nothing stopped them.

The inverse is also true. Ducati has benefitted from gaming the rules for a long time...and even then your own image shows me what? That even with them gaming the rules they are holding 1 more win when compared to the torque disadvantaged 4's? kek
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>>18321988
>And then Honda made the RC51 and beat Ducati, so there's that.
Indeed, but the Italians put one hell of a fight. :^)

That is precisely why I brought MotoGP up. Same rules and everything and Ducati is very much competitive, being the one that challenged Honda in the end. Sure those prototypes are a far cry from road bikes but it does showcase the technology each maker is capable of nonetheless.
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>>18322004
Dude, im with you, but you cant really claim that ducati is competitive in moto GP when the only way they could win was with Casey Stoner.
The bikes had spurts of blisteringly fast pace, but competitions last longer than a handful if laps.
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>>18321996
The Japanese brands have hundreds, or even thousands of times the budget of Ducati. So if they want to win and V Twins are supposedly that much better, yes, do go with them.

>>18322003
>You openly admit it.
Yes? Was there ever a dispute? Twins can't rev as fast as fours, therefore they need the extra capacity. Can't be that hard to understand that.

>Ducati won 15 championships by itself while all the other brands together won 14.

>Therefore Ducati isn't even that good.

Kys faggot. And some of those other victories also came from twins. Understand how the rules work before you complain about 'muh capacity'.
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>>18321988
church
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>>18322011
Fair enough, but can we at least agree that their V4s are up to the task?
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>>18322014
Youre lookin a lil mad there bud.
Ducati had the deck stacked towards their favor for many years, and their list of wins reflects that.
Had the rules not benefitted a small, European brand that exclusively made less efficient Vtwins, then its safe to say that a small, European brand that exclusively made less efficient Vtwins wouldnt have won those championships.

(Disclaimer) Ducati still makes some of the sexiest bikes ever
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>>18322018
Yes, yes we can.
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>>18322014
Again pussyfag, I didn't say Ducati is bad. But they pull some bullshit. I am glad to see the open admittance that the Ducati motors are inherently WORSE. Such to the extent that they need substantially larger motors to compete on any sort of competitive level.

Good to see. As for saying some of the other wins were twins...so let me get this right: The other bikes even disadvantaged themselves and STILL won? Boy you just keep digging that hole deeper.
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What is the best way to decorate/draw/paint permanently on a helmet?
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>>18322030
Should I keep repeating the difference betweens twins and fours until you understand? Or are you being this retarted on purpose?

Please tell me how other twins were disandvantaged in relation to Ducati.
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>>18322045
Please tell me how the Vtwin is superior To I4 when it needs to be larger in displacement in order to be competitive.
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>Please tell me how other twins were disandvantaged in relation to Ducati.

A company focuses on a specific type of motor while another company does not focus on that type of motor.

Tell me again how the advantage would NOT be with the company that invested much more time, money, and energy in the specific motor type being raced?

Did I go too fast for you? Maybe you need another 200 mental cc's to catch up to what I am saying?
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>>18322045
Wait, doesnt the fact that the ONLY Japanese manufacturer to make a Vtwin was able to beat Ducati at their own game prove that Ducati NEEDED the rules to favor them in order to beat the 750 I4s?
Doesnt that strengthen the claim that their engines are less competitive and need a displacement boost?
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what are those empty pipes that come out of the gearbox for
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>>18322048
It's neither superior nor inferior my intellectually impaired friend.

A 1000cc twin has each cylinder displacing 500cc while in a 1000cc four each cylinder would displace half of that. The result is that the four cylinder engine would get to rev faster, producing more power. To balance this there were displacement regulations put in place. At first, 750cc for 4s and 1000cc for 2s.
Both engines briefly had the same 1000cc displacement in the mid 2000s before twins were allowed another 200cc, albeit in a lower state of tune.

That is how those regulations work. To say that therefore inline fours/v4s are better because they have more power under the same capacity is pure ignorance.
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>>18322069
Have you seen the 2002 championship?
>>18322062
Honda had all the money in the world at their disposal and the other Japs weren't far off.
>Tell me again how the advantage would NOT be with the company that invested much more time, money, and energy in the specific motor type being raced?

And the same could be said about them making inline fours since forever.
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The closest apples to apples comparison was the desmosedici's V4 which was iirc a 989cc and made about 162-167whp. Not bad too be sure...It was close to the jap power outputs for the time but still a little underperforming. And of course in a bike that cost multiple times what the jap bikes cost. Because special. Because Ducati.
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>>18322077
There is a sweet spot in type of motor. Inline fours have been invested in for a reason. How many cc's would a single get to be competitive? Why don't they build inline 5's? Inline 6's? etc etc etc.

For the application the best power for motor size is what exactly?
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>>18322084
So you admit that Ducati had the advantage? They have been making twins since forever right? And even now in the new pani we are still comparing an inline4 to a V4. Could you imagine a Ducati inline 4 of the same cc size competing with the japs? Is it any wonder why the new V4 is over 10% larger than the inlines?

What does that say about the Ducati motor?
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>>18322089
Honda used a odd V5 at the early days of 4st GP, didn't they?

I think the limit is 4 cylinders, with anything bigger than that being banned. And since (if I recall correctly) i3s don't seen to get any extra displacement the options have always been 2 or 4.

Consider that some Supersports do come as triples, since on that category they have extra cc.
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>>18322104
It is 10% larger because of emissions, my man. Longer stroke.
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Yeah I read that too....for sure for sure. It has nothing to do with the fact that they are hyping, "the most powerful in it's class"

But hey I guess it's true it is the most powerful in it's class...because that 1103cc motor is the only bike in it's new made-up class. I suppose all the other manufacturers sticking to the 1000cc size should just do the same right? Naw...they should stroke it even bigger yet and use the same reason. That new ZX-13R...just because euro4 bruh

This is the shit I am talking about. Ducati I want to love you but you are so full of shit.
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>>18321287
Oh boy, let's bust out the autism.
>anybody who actually rides aggressively will definitely be able to feel changes in suspension
What you feel between a cheap bike's forks and a more expensive bike's forks is the valving for compression and rebound. Shit bikes like 250s have nothing in them but a spring and some oil. Most sportbikes have cartridges and adjustable valves for all that stuff. That's why swapping forks is a thing, but it usually costs more for a net loss in potential. Some bikes have conventional forks that are fully adjustable, but don't look as sharp to the normie consumer.

Take the SV650, for example. The meme is to put on GSXR forks, but the reality is that they are too rigid for such a slow bike. Ignoring the geometry concerns, the front end feels numb with the swapped forks and you lose feedback. You're better off with the right weight springs, emulators, or drop in cartridges for the stock forks if you are fast enough to need anything beyond appropriate springs and oil. The real upgrade from the GSXR setup is the bling factor for street squids who think USD is better because they hopped on a bike with stiffer springs. That, and the 4 piston brake calipers, but even those are beyond overkill for the speeds the SV needs to shed into turns.

Very few people would be able to tell a performance difference between USD and conventional forks. Conventional forks with proper springs and valving can be just as good as USD forks. The difference between them is where the weight is held. Unsprung weight is lower on USD forks, so the racier machines will have them since they are a more expensive "performance" part.

Same goes for shock swaps. People are just swapping an entire shock to change spring rates, but that's because most stock shocks aren't able to be rebuilt. Some have two or three clickers to change the settings, but the springs are the largest difference to 99% of riders.

tl:dr; What you feel is the valving, not the fork type.
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>>18322144
Ducati and Italians in general are professionals at creatively interpreting rules in order to 'be the best'
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>>18321615
There is a difference between check and adjust.

My wr450 has over 250 hours on it now, I've checked the valves several times, they haven't needed to be adjusted.
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>>18322084
>And the same could be said about them making inline fours since forever.

Smaller, more restricted inline 4s.
WSBK and Grand Priox wanted Europeans to win. Thats how Euro sports work. If you are Asian or American, get fucked.
>see: How Marc Marquez was able to go straight to a factory ride in MotoGP when Ben Spies was forced to ride a less competitive satellite yamaha

Euros love Euros, and they build that into the rules.
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is it ok to leave my bike muddy?
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Why is there this one hill where every time I ride up it my bike slips out of gear and there's this awful crunching sound inside the engine?

It's literally just on that one hill like its cursed or something.

Same thing happened on my previous bike at another hill, if I stopped on it and then tried to set off it would stall. I could reproduce this result without fail every time, but the bike had no problem on other hills.
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>>18322223
Ah yes
The same euros who are famous for running with V2, B2, i3 and singles definitely pushed to make the i4 favoured by rules
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>>18322241
Are you fat?
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>>18322252
But the euros could just build i4s tho
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>>18322270
Oh wait, triumph tried that and flopped massively.
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>>18322077
"Da rules" have always, historically been 750cc 4cylinders vs 1000cc twins
Why?
Because displacement
V2 and B2 are roughly fair against each other, but i4 can rev higher, at the time 25% higher
This means they DISPLACE 25% more air
To keep the class competitive twins were then allowed to have 25% more displacement

This remains true today, except the divide has reached 20% due singlehandedly to the work put in by BMW and ducati, who stood by their history when everyone else took the lazier option (namely: 60° v4 and 90° crossplane i4)
And BMW has pretty much declared defeat with the swan song of the hp2 and shifted development to the hp4
Ducati has been forced to do the same, probably in part by the backhanded slap aprilia gave to the market when they whipped out their shlong in full view and managed to build a competitive v4 from scratch
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>>18322241
You have a bent shift fork that is not allowing the dogs on the gears to fully engage. Put enough torque on them and they start to slip past each other. It's case split time.
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>>18318991
>>18319015
it's dumb, they're too heavy
once you start drifting its weight is just going to want to lean over off the tyre too quickly, and tend to lowside. not much steering lock either so doing turns will be a lot harder without leaning it at all too.
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>>18322291
Mang lock to lock is meaningless on bikes BECAUSE they can lean
The long wheelbase is what keeps you safe, you can lean it over without upsetting the balance too much, since the rear wheel already has no weight over it
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>>18319662
Nice and stock, not butchered, should run forever. Worth about three grand US IMO but no idea about Sweden. Check out BMW forums for more info.

Perhaps you don't know what's out there but asking here is borderline retarded unless you are very new to the internet. 4chan is /b/, all of it.

Interestingly later complex BMWs drop in value like a rock. Airheads are pretty steady and likely to appreciate modestly. You can swap many parts because of their simplicity. I had an R60 with an R90 engine (straight bolt-in) for ten years and enjoyed it, but I found myself riding my FXRs more so it got sold.

You can transplant disc brake front ends easily, though I'd use a handlebar master cylinder instead of the heinous cable-operated mc BMW mounted under the tank

https://www.wunderlichamerica.com/blog/the-top-93-bmw-motorcycle-sites-for-amazing-rides/#chapter1

https://forums.bmwmoa.org/
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>>18319873
What part (details please) are you hunting or is it secret?

Need year, make, model, CORRECT part name or pic.
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>>18322277
And historically ONE brand has seen MASSIVE success from 'da rules' due to them being allowed a larger engine.
Doesnt that bolster the claim that Ducati benefitted from rules that were tipped in their favor?
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>>18320282
Stock carbs are set lean due to EPA regs so rejetting is a good idea with stock or modified exhaust. Stock mufflers tend to be overly restrictive which gutting them or an aftermarket pipe solves.

Results depend on the specific motorcycle so check what others have done successfully with your specific machine.
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>>18322330
Nope
Honda, the current leader of the pack, too had a V2 racer (the rc51, I believe) they switched to 4 cylinder because the rules were so favourable for them
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>>18322376
>they switched to 4 cylinder because the rules were so favourable for them

prooves?
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Fuck it i guess ill ask here. You guys think a KTM 300 2 smoker could handle a snow bike kit? I know they recommend 450s as a minimum but I don't know in any of you guys have experience with that shit.
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>>18322383
>Teams are allowed ever decreasing amounts of fuel
>20% more ccs needed to stay competitive
>1/5th more gas usage
It's not hard
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>>18322396
Why not just buy a snowmobile?
They're more comfy and cheaper
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>>18322396
2 strokes work on snowmobilkes cause they have a CVT to ride the high powerband. 4 strokes are a better ride for the snow when flipping through gears.
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>>18322000
Checkd
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Has the beta tool company got anything to do with the dirtbike one?
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My dick tells me to splurge and get this as my first bike and daily commuter.
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>>18322475
Your dick is stupid.
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>>18322482
stupid large :)
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>>18322475
>quad pipes
Dick Status: Muh
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>>18322475
Z1k? They're good bikes
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>>18322475
Good choice, very good, fun, reliable, fast bike.
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It's only early December and it feels like I'm going mad.

>>18322475
What experience do you have with bikes?
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>>18322536
>going mad.
You already were
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>>18322538
Proofs?
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>>18322541
You're here.
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>>18322544
Point taken.
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>>18322226
M U D
U
D
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>>18322226
Dirtbike?
Yeah
Streetbike
Sure, why not
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>>18321995
Ybr girl is still alive?
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>>18322682
Yee. Posted yesterday saying she still lurks occasionally and posts without identifying herself because of CTA.
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>>18322682
Dammit
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>>18322682
She's eloped with AT
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Is WR dead?
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>>18322686
>posts without identifying herself because of CTA
What a coward
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>>18322686
I guess the problem is rather that she posts pictures of herself here
Why would one do this? I mean with the whole face and stuff?
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>>18322686
>>18322805
whats CTA
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>>18322797
On the inside
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I need some help. I got a Chinese dirtbike and when I Rev it it pops and bangs a shit ton. Also on de acceleration.
I tried turning to the air fuel mixture out to make it richer but that didn't help.. I had it turned all the way out in the end.
Then I tried turning it all the way in but that didn't help..

What can it be then?
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>>18322901
Cum tribute anon
Did a piece on wr's (unwilling) e-obsession
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>>18322951
Don't forget the ogre tribute
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>>18322989

>>18322989

>>18322989

>>18322985
Wasn't it CJ who did that?
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>>18322945

is it a pitbike =?
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>>18322599
swim swim baiku




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