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Where are the Fireblades and S1000RRs with anti-dive suspensions? (edition)

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first for dead bike
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Yamaha
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>>19425026
how does it feel
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>>19425026
WR250 a shit
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junk reporting in
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>>19425025
wah happen
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New Helmet, time to wrap itasha graphics on it :^)
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>more than a week has passed since Futura guy wanted to call back
>still hasn't
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Dreaming about riding liter bikes doesn't help.
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>>19425389
you arent getting that futura dude, you came on too strong and you scared him away
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>>19425397
>came on too strong
What
We aren't talking about romancing a wallflower girl, this is like fucking WRs mum. Guy is offering, I am willing to buy. What the FUCK is his problem
D-does he know about my shitposting?
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>>19425402
>spilling your spaghetti all over a random stranger trying to sell his beloved futura
you fucked this up, get a new phone to contact him from and dont be yourself
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>>19425416
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https://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/oxford-toledo-10-mesh-jacket

What’s wrong with this? Stop me before I end up a tarmac stain.
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>>19425461
aesthetically ok, never heard of the brand, looks light on the elbow/shoulder pads department but you can buy a back protector insert
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i want a scooter
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Anyone have experience with the CBR500R? I'm looking for my first bike and am gonna check one out today.
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>>19425474
The manufacturer website says elbow and shoulder are CE level 1, does that mean anything of significance?
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>>19425491
http://www.motorcyclegear.com/info_pages/faq_armor_ratings_explained.html
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>>19425488
I'd stay away
Why do you want that bike?
The 650 is way better
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>>19425488
I started on a 2013 500f, I dont know anything about ninja 650s but the 500 is a very good starter baik imo
plenty of low end power and fine to use on the interstate when you feel comfortable
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>>19425488
just get a 90s CB500/CB500S
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>>19425509
The CBR650 is a 4 cylinder which is not something I want to tackle for my first bike. It's going to mostly just be used for commuting to work and back.

I live in a pretty small city so pickings are a bit slim. There's this 2013 CBR500R that seems to be in super good condition with < 10k miles, and a bunch of super beat up Ninjas.
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>>19425027
Feels goodman
>>19425028
(you) wat
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>>19425488
Havent ridden one, but i hear good things about them constantly.
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>>19425550
>>19425659
That's good to hear. My other option is a 2008 SV650S but it's 3 more hours away and twice as old, and the guy wants quite a bit more money for it.
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>>19425677
Dont buy an SV. Horribly uncomfortable and unreliable bikes
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I have been riding my superdydupersport to work but using my touring bike for touge runs.
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>>19425682
Don't listen to this guy. I have an '07 SV650S and it's a blast. Really not an uncomfortable ride, especially if you mostly plan on using it for commuting.
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>>19425677
Get an FZ6.
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>>19425722
They're very attractive bikes, but again I'm kinda worried about having to deal with a 4-banger that makes almost 100hp to start with.
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>>19425722
chain is rusted to shit man

why exactly doesnt the tank fit the frame? Ill never get that
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>>19425743
I have a cb500f and a zx6r, I absolutely would not recommend starting on a i4 600

very little low end torque is not good for a beginner
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>>19425743
Got one for my first bike, if you keep it under 10krpm it's so calm you could just call it slow. I think it's known as beginner bike, too
>>19425722
>friend of mine buys new springs and shock
>get jelly and want to upgrade too like the spoiled brat I am
Are there recommended suspension upgrades for the fz6 or is it fine as it is? Couldn't find info on forums
>>19425764
Fuck now I can't unsee it
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Now THIS is podracing

https://youtu.be/HQElPpPDZ8k
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>>19425630
it's fine dude. four cylinder engines are super smooth
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The cb500f and cb500x are good beginner bikes

The 500r is just goofy. Nothing with full fairings should redline at 8500 rpm
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Versys or FJ for a touring bike!?
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>>19425969
Whichever one has a stock centerstand and 5+ gallon fuel tank
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>>19425969
FJR
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>>19425978
I would vote for the FJ, but you should go ride both
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Let's make make some of these about our bikes
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>>19425999
and the template
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>>19425978
Honestly, wait for the nc750x and get that

Both of those bikes are overkill as tourers imo
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>>19425980
5.5 vs 4.8, really not much of a difference since I'd be getting off the bike every couple hours regardless.
>>19425981
Too expensive and too big. FJR weighs 635lbs.
>>19425996
Riding them any more than I already have will probably only strengthen my indecisiveness.

Plus the dealers near me are getting tired of me taking test rides I'm sure.
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Another currently dead bike.
Currently taking it apart to work on the carbs, among other things. Wish I had better tools right about now
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>>19425978
FJ
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>>19426010
do you have any accessories you plan on fitting, do the bikes supply enough power to support them? Is one going to be more expensive to maintain? Can you get luggage for one more cheaply than the other?
You can also get electronic cruise control for the FJ
https://www.mccruise.com/collections/yamaha/products/yamaha-mt-09-tracer-fj-09-new-throttle-by-wire-mccruise
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>>19425244
It exploded
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Pug face
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>>19425999
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>>19425999
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>>19425999
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>buy naked bike
>shitty budget suspension, shitty ground clearance in corners, shitty looks

>buy sport bike
>shitty comfort, shitty unusable powerband for tight roads, shitty fragile plastics that need expensive replacing or fixing after a simple tipover

What do? I know European supernakeds are the best of both worlds, but I can't afford one even when used, so I'm stuck with Jap peasant bikes.
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>>19425971
The older model 500X and 500R have practically the same amount of plastic
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>>19426258
jap retro styled naked bikes dont look shitty
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>>19425971
Yeah I agree, the 500R definitely seems to have more bark than bite. I don't mind it though, only autists will really care anyways
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>>19426199
>What Tuono V4 anon bought:
Tuono V4.
>What Tuono V4 anon expected:
RSV4 + comfort.
>What Tuono V4 anon got:
'a'.

:^)
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>>19426258
Buy something with a V Twin and wheelie into the sunset.
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>>19426283
Most regular jap nakeds don't look that awful

The MT's are the exception.
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>>19426264
Tell that to the insurance companies
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>>19426310
Eh that depends on your location and who you ask. Squids aren't actually buying CBR500Rs and crashing them into things at speeds it's physically incapable of.
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>>19426326
Maybe outside of the US, but here full fairings = double the premium
Additionally, there's no distinction between the "Supersport" and "sportbike" category, where the X and F models can be shuffled under "Naked" or "Standard"
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>>19426363
Yikes
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Bought this a few days ago for incredibly cheap. 3 years old. First bike.

Anyone know why my exhaust is highly corroded but nothing else on the bike is? Does that just happen with exhausts? I'm gonna get it replaced soon.
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Is rally raid stuff worth it? I sort of want to get either a 310GS or a CB500x with a kit, but it's so damn expensive. Don't really want to buy a $1000 suspension for it to break a month later.
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>>19426380
Chinese deathtrap as a first bike? Bold
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>>19426391
I also live in China ha!
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>>19426385
>Adding anything on a leaner bike,besides basic mantainance.
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>>19426363
Put in a bigger main jet senpai
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>>19426397
Nihao China numba whan
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>>19426371
aprilia did nothing wrong. you can't make an omelette without melting a few frying pans.
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>30 minutes before i get off work
>thunder starts
Every fucking day. Then the humidity jump makes it unbearable even if the roads dry up. Cant wait til november
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>>19426385
It seems like the 500x is mostly for more experienced riders that want something more comfortable than a dualsport for on-road use

That said, I really like the idea of a rally raid 500x
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>>19426411
Nc?
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>>19426385
Just get the 500x and buy tkc80s and a proper bash plate

Store the stock tires at home

If you need more off road ability than that, the cb500x ain't worth it. Get a dr650
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>>19426411
Howdy TX fren
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>>19426411
>Vegas
>monsoon couple days ago
>90-100 degrees at 40-60% humidity
Just fucking kill me.
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BRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP!
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>>19426401
>You need 1200cc
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>>19426474
>Less than 600cc
Wasting your money tbqh
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Is Harley the gayest motorcycle brand?
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>>19426516
It's second right behind Honda.
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picked this up 07 with only 20K

how bad did i fuck up /dbt/
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>>19426235
by the looks of it, you're a massive faggot who punches mirrors and dates a 15 year old
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>>19426533
How would we know if you dont say how much you paid?
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>>19426427
The ground clearance would still be shit, though.
Also
>proper bash plate
The cb500x comes with none.
>>19426413
Sounds about my situation. It really isnt fun travelling more than 300km on a dual sport.
>>19426401
>off-roading on a bike that weights as much as a car
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>>19426540
800$
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>>19426469
absolute unit
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>>19426533
should have gotten that el camino behind it
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>>19426533
>>19426555
Not bad at all, where I am i've seen exactly one learner bike at $2000, and I bought the fuckin thing
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>>19426555
does it run?
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>>19426597
yeah it runs p fine so far. good brakes too. its a little worn looking t b h
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>>19426607

>$800 on his first baiku

u did well

have fun you mad lad
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>>19426555
bretty good.
I cant even find an old 125 dual sport for 800 around here.
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>>19426543
It depends on what you really want. An Africa Twin or Tiger 800 will do everything on and off road that isn't a hare scramble. Both are also stupid levels of reliable with regular maintenance.

A WR250R is better if you want something to get from your house to nearby trails, I used to do ~320km/day on my XT225 and it was fine, just stand up and take a break for a bit when you get gas. The main issue is wringing it out for so long.

The CRF450L and XR650L are options, the CRF being priced much higher. The DRZ400 is about all I think Suzuki does right, and they did it very well. So it's also an option.

Kawasaki has the Versys 300, and I truly think it will do everything you want and more, while being a better fit than a CB500X. It's also not a thumper, being a p-twin it won't be wrung out nearly as bad if you take it on the highway all day.

So Versys 300 is my pick for you. The 650 I think is a great option, but it's heavier, and it isn't built nearly the same as an Africa Twin or Tiger.
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>>19426533
They're great bikes. You did good.
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>>19426533
Are you the mad max 'stang anon?
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>>19426665
My vote for the shitzuki dr650. maybe biased because I have one, but I easily to hare scramble level shit on it.
I found a super low mileage one and spent the money I saved on upgrades.
If youre able to address the dr's shortcomings, you should be able to enjoy a very formidable dual sport.
I also suggest carrying different front sprockets so you can change them out to meet your riding style that day; slower offroad vs. highway.
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>>19426665
An Africa Twin or a Tiger 800 would be perfect, but they are out of my financial reach for now.

The versys 300 is pretty good as well but it has some issues which worry me, such as a worse low-rpm torque than both the BMW and the CB; a terrible ABS which can't be easily disabled and it looks like shit.
Although a fully equipped versys 300 here (would still need to fix the seat and the skid-plate, though) costs the same as the other two bikes with no mods at all. It is tempting indeed.
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need more memes about this shitty ass bike
I won't even mention its name lol
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Convince me not to pick up an XR650R, I've been wanting one for a while now. I've had a drz400 and a te511 and I think I'm ready for the god machine.
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>>19425023
Holy shit this thing is so much faster than my old bike
>inb4 lol cruiser
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>>19425999
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Can anyone give me some insight?

>bike chokes and dies at 75mph
>electronics stay on, engine just cuts out
>pull over and start the bike back on
>weird sound when giving it revs all of a sudden
>sounds like choking and vibrations
>it starts and I go and fill it up with petrol
>riding home and it dies again
>this time it just has less power, keeps going but can't give it many revs
>eventually stalls
>start switch doesn't work anyway (fuel injected)
>bump starts
>ride it a little bit but it dies again and now the engines making a really disturbing noise
>doesn't bump start anymore
>it's just dead
>put in new oil and its still dead

Any insight is appreciated. I understand if this isn't enough to go by
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>>19426810
i don't even like cruisers but nice bike anon
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>>19426816
Weird noises and vibrations are probably from misfiring and throwing balance of the engine out of wack, what kind of bike is it?
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>>19426827
I'm embarrassed to admit it's a 2010 plated Yamaha YZF R125.

When looking online that's the answer is seem to get. Perhaps something to do with the spark plugs. But I ride a r125 so that goes to show just how much I would know.
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>>19426816
Check battery
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>>19426837
>>19426827
I can't believe I forgot to mention. Smoke was coming from my battery when I held down the ignition switch.
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>>19426835
It's never the spark plug nigga, not unless it's really fucking fouled or cracked. Check your carb, check battery connections.
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>>19426414
>>19426443
Alabama on the MS border

>>19426466
try 90-100% humidity every day. My truck read 116 degrees the other day
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>>19426845
Could be saying something dumb, but as far as I'm aware I don't have carbs(?). I am thinking battery now because of the smoke.

Just parroted the spark plug thing cause of google
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>>19426779
You don't need a larger engine than a 250 on a dual sport. Even if you stubborn and want one, the xt660 (certainly including the new T7 bike) and the KTM 690 enduro are better.
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>>19426852
Lmao, I didn't think they'd give those turds fuel injection. My bad, check battery connections. Make sure they're tight.
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>>19426857
That's the thing about dual sports

They're mostly lifestyle machines but honestly even the 690/701 are overkill.
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>>19426843
well duh, clean your terminals and make sure everythings tight on the battery. Sounds like a short. Check your wires around it too for anything burnt up
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>>19426857
>Don't need larger then a 250

Don't feel like screaming like a faggot while doing 65 on the freeway

>XT660

They don't sell these in america.

>>19426857

>KTM
Lmao lad, spending more then 9000 on a dirtbike is fucking nuts and I'd rather not have my rocker arms fail on me. I already did the European dirt bike meme and I hated it.
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>>19426882
>a db on the freeway
why
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>>19426882
XT600 then.
But the XR650R is godly. Do you plan to street it?
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>>19426875
>>19426859
OK ty frens. I hope it is the battery, that will make me happy.
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>>19426894
Yes, street and trail. It'll be my only bike, my old bike got smashed by some faggot in a jeep.
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>>19426904
So youre cool with the extra maintenance and kick start only?
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>>19426896
When was the batt last changed? Id do that too if you have the cash.
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>>19426908
Yeah, it'll probably be way more reliable then my husqvarna, thing puked oil like a retarded bulimic.
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>>19426867
The 701 makes a great supermoto, but it isnt reliable enough to be a good dual sport. The 690 is nice, though. Other than that, i agree with you.

>>19426882
>dual sport
>freeway
They are going to suck either way.
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Holy SHIT just get a dr650

The perfect dual sport exists already
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>>19426921
>suzuki
>perfect
No
DR650s are trash.
Heavy, under powered, unreliable trash.
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>>19426920
701 has the same engine as the 690 though? How is the 701 not reliable and the 690 is?

>>19426921
DR650 is for iffy niggas who can't handle the blicky.
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>>19426924
>dr650
>unreliable

Maybe a craigslist special
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Do all liter peter sport bikes make about the same power with full exhaust ecu air filter? Is the Panigale v4 one step ahead with the extra 100cc?
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>>19426928
The 690 is not reliable.
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>>19426928
It does? That's odd, i said that based on a statistic of dual sport bikes i've seen some other day, i will search for it to see if i find it.
Although it does make sense both of them using the same engine.
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>>19426936
Is it because of the gigantic single cylinder head shaking harder then the booty of a woman in a rap video?
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>>19426924
>DR650s trash
In stock config maybe, but the engine and transmission is reliable.
Upgrade the rest of the shit, and you've got a tight bike.
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>>19426930
Yeah broken frames are sweet.
Dropped valve are sweet
Broken chain guides are sweet
Oil burning is sweet
Brakes catching fire is sweet

Nah yeah. Super reliable
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>>19426825
Thanks
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Can you lads describe the base nature of a dual sport? Because from what my pea brain can deduce it doesnt seem like a good dirtbike or a good streetbike. I feel like id rather have two shit bikes for dirt and street. Are they at least comfy for road? I like the idea of their load capacity. Also adv bike vs dual? difference?
pic unrelated, from work
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>>19426928
The 701 and 690 don't have the same motor, when they came out with the 701 the upgraded the motor with an extra balancer shaft and a bit more power and for some reason they haven't put it back into the 690 yet.
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>>19426970
The best option is to get a road bike and travel trails as our ancestors did: by foot
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>>19426913
Not since I bought it in December
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>>19426980
>by foot

Get a load of this cuck
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>>19426970
>comfy for road
Upgrade the seat, maybe put a little windscreen on it, adjust ergos to suit your taste, then yes.
>base nature
Give no fucks and do everything OK enough.
>adv vs dual-sport
ADV bikes are bigger, heavier, and usually a hell of a lot more powerful/faster. They're better for long-distance work over roads and somewhat maintained dirt/gravel. Dual-sports are lighter, usually 1 cyl, and built simple and tough. Usually.
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>>19426989
so you changed the batt in Dec? then youre fine. What did you mean by the batt was smoking? Was it actually smoking or maybe something else? A potential fire under your ass is no joke, make sure to look at everything
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>>19426934
Anyone?
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>>19427002
informative. thanks man. Its rare to see a decent answer here. After i master my street bike id love an adv for heading north and camping near the mountains
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>>19426970
you're correct, it's less best of both worlds and more mediocre all round. Sure having two dedicated bikes would be better but A. that's expensive, and B. you can't ride your streetbike to some trails, transform it into your dirtbike to ride trails, then transform it back to hit some twisties and ride home. They're pretty uncomfy on the road compared to dedicated street bikes, but certainly better than a dirt bike.

As far as dual sport v ADV remember that they're called adventure touring bikes for a reason, a Dual sport you can ride 50ish miles to some trails, they're mediocre on a the highway and kinda slow, and ADV bike you can load the fuck up with your camping shit and GF, ride across the country in a day and cruise around gravel/dirt roads in the mountains.
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>>19427003
It was smoking. Genuine smoke and burning smell when I held the ignition down.

I don't know if the battery was replaced back then, sorry, that's just when it was last charged.
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>>19426970
Dual sports are literally dirtbikes fit with the minimum safety requirements for road use. ADVs are the ones who actually make a compromise between off-road and road use.

I personally prefer ADVs since they fill 3 roles instead of 1 (off-road, touring and comfortably commuting), but if your main interest is riding on trails, and you either live nearby those trails or have a truck to tow the bike to them, you might prefer a dual sport.

Also, dual sports are cheaper and generally considered a better entry point for ADVs, but things are rapidly changing in this category, so who knows.
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>>19427016
Idk m8, liter bikes are boring af.
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>>19427019
>you can’t ride your street bike to some trails

https://youtu.be/EvL6_CsH90A
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>>19427019
>>19427036
also very informative.
Id be curious to know how much dbt differs in street and dirt and everything in between, and of course the nobike posters. someone should strawpoll it
thanks lads
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>>19427041
>boring
I disagree but I just wanted to know if they basicaly all make the same amount of power without restrictions and if the Panigale v4 is an exception with the extra 100cc.
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>>19426139
custom
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>>19427055
No they don't but they're all much closer than stock.
Panigale v4 makes about 5% more
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>>19427016
if youre looking at a fucking Panigale you shouldnt be asking us. And if youre asking about a pani you probably shouldnt own one, so who cares?
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>>19427029
this is far fetched, but what color was the smoke? plastic burns black, batteries dont normally smoke. Something is going on there and i wont sleep right before you figure it out, also im bored
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>>19427029
Was this immediate after pressing the ignition, or did it only start to smoke after you were attempting to start your bike for a while?
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>>19427062
So the rest of the field is safe to say well within 5% hmm k thx.
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>>19427016
It makes marginally more power, but all liters are basically the same in that you won't notice a difference with your riding skill while on the streets.
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>>19427071
White smoke, quite thin, but smoked every time I held the ignition down.

I'll make sure to let you know when I get it checked BTW

>>19427077
For a short while
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>>19427095
What about with your riding skill while on the street? There is hardly no skill to pin the throttle in a straight line.
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>>19427106
You have to be a special kind of suicidal to just pin a liter on the street, and even if you do fuck if you're going to notice the difference between 150mph and 152mph
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>>19427100
then i believe its a short somewhere either on the battery terminals or near the battery. A short at higher speed would make sense since the vibrations of the bike at that speed could make a bare wire contact another.
After reading your original post, did anyone mention spark plugs? Im assuming you or the previous owner hasnt touched them, they definatly dont last 8 years since you said the bike was 2010
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what kind of jams do you boys listen to while riding or working on your bike?
I keep it chill especially in the garage, about to adjust the clutch cable to my new boots. Also i find this kind of music keeps me from being an ass on the road
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fp9c3d7Gy9o
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>>19427161
Raspberry
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>>19427123
>You have to be a special kind of suicidal to just pin a liter on the street
aka litres are dumb
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>>19427176
>t. noliter
sure you can't do it in traffic or in a neighborhood but any peter is fast enough to do a quick run to 150 and back to the speed limit between lights, I do it almost every time I go out.
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>>19427185
Simple pleasures for simple minds i guess
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>>19427161
im finding it that I really dislike people who want to know about others on the internet
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>>19427123
but I like to know that I have gone a certain speed especially above 300kph and now 320kph aka 200mph
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>>19427016
>>19427055
The Panigale V4 is different because of its engine configuration, not its displacement. The 1199 is an L-Twin with higher displacement but the real difference between it and say an R1 is because of the L-Twin vs i4, not 1200cc vs 1000cc
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>>19427137
So sorry about the late response. I'm going to keep this in mind and find out tomorrow for you.

My friends dad who is a mechanic rescued me, he only gave it a brief lookover and said he wasn't too sure. I brought up spark plugs but he said he doesn't know.

Previous owner bought the bike from a dealership for his son, his son got a car instead and they never rode it, so I'm not familiar what was specifically done with it.

The bikes in poor condition, even for its age. I'll be honest.

Regardless I'm gonna take a good look at the battery with supervision from those I trust and I will come back to you. He was poking around the battery for a while, so that does seem to be the suspect culprit.
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How much would dbt pay for a very good condition GL500? It's an 81 so doesn't have the cam timer issue. Anybody have any experience with CX/CL's in general?
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>>19427293
oh its 200cc and not a hundred. its got to make a difference. it must be able to be put to good use other then low end torque just to putt around town. can v4 make good top speeds like inline 4s?
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>>19425026
I want it
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>>19427357
V4s are used by most MotoGP prototypes. Just think about that. Surely the shorter crankshaft and perfect primary balance (of the 90º ones anyway) make a difference.

And the 200cc do make a difference. But so does having 4 'tiny' pistons instead of 2 huge ones. 4s rev 20% more than twins, therefore the capacity difference.
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>>19427392
>And the 200cc do make a difference. But so does having 4 'tiny' pistons instead of 2 huge ones. 4s rev 20% more than twins, therefore the capacity difference.
Talking about V2s on this one obviously. V2s a best.
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>>19427397
V2s are shit. Its been proven over and over that P2 is better in every way
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>>19427392
god I want one so bad now
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>>19427401
then why are V2s used in practically any high performance situations and P2 is only used in shitty commuter bikes?
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>>19427409
>harley
>high performance
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>>19427401
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>>19427409
V2s are memes

Yamaha's CP2 is the best ptwin that exists today

Inb4 KrackedTM
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>>19427404
V4 or V2, anon? Either way you can't go wrong.
>>19427401
Wash your whore mouth with soap, you filthy simpleton.
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>>19427409
I4 and V4 are performance
V2 a shit
P2 a good
Prove me wrog
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>>19427422
>V2s are memes.
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found this in my area
are you ready for 115th?

p.s. gas all harley & cruiser fags right now

https://milwaukee.craigslist.org/mcy/d/are-you-ready-for-the-115th/6641411779.html
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>>19427426
1 a best
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>>19427437
Cant argue that
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>>19427423
v4
I tried the super duke and really disliked it
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>>19427401
V twins are amazing.
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>>19427442
>t. Takes cock in the ass and rides a harley
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Shit. Reading this made me realize I have never ridden a bike with cylinder count other than 1 and 4 (inline)
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Any thoughts on Royal Enfields? They make some spiffy looking bikes. Super unimpressive specs though, kind of seems like a harley on paper.
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Everyone pls stop replying to the Ptwin poster, he's not even a good troll.
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>>19427453
Made in india. Still have decent reviews though.
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>>19427453
They may as well be a harley made out of paper they are so unreliable.
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>>19427454
See
>>19427446
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>>19427234
Yes us high IQ individuals prefer to ride our 250s like responsible adults. How am I going to watch Rick and Morty to flex my intelligence if I crash?
>tips fedora
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>>19427440
B-but that's a twin, mate.
>>19427437
I wouldn't say 'best', but monos are OK.
>>19427446
Inline two is literally the worst engine configuration any motorcycle/car can possibly have. There quite simply isn't a worse one.
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>>19427426
>prove me wrong
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>>19427450
Confession time?
I have never ridden a 2t.
;____;
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>>19427453
Talked to a guy that bought on of these.
He enjoyed it but didnt have many miles. Seems neat but apparently really low on power
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>>19427426
Please, post a single parallel twin motorcycle that isn't fucking trash, just one.
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>>19425488
An update on this guy. Checked out the bike, it was in great condition. Rode it around the block, was super easy to ride and pretty damn comfy.
Only reason I didn't get it is because I found that because it's fully faired, insurance is literally twice as much for this as it would be for the SV650S. So I'm gonna check that one out first and then make my decision.

Pic related is what the SV looks like. It is also fully faired but as long as it's an SV650S the insurance company doesn't think it is.
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>>19427434
how does it turn

>>19427479
>>19427458
>>19427457
Thanks, im considering buying a subpar but good looking motorcycle recently, but maybe ill just start plunking away for a caterham or something
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>>19427472
>That godly trio.
Too bad the mille never got a title to it's name. Still, it was said to have tremendous handling. And it looks gorgeous.

V Twin cruisers are comfy tbqh.
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>>19427480
It's objectively better if people tried to make them nice.
Premium bikes just don't use them because vtwins are associated with high cost, only reason
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>>19427471
>>19427480
Even ktm is ditching the v2
And for good reason.
>>19427472
Trash
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>>19427479
RE is made in India, slow, and uses 60 year old suspension. Literally only a bike for looking good.
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>>19427480
Not him, but the RD350, Super Ténéré 750 and current Africa Twin are all decent bikes. Still, they'd all be better with V/Boxer layouts.
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>>19427482
See
>>19425682
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>>19427494
I know. Did i claim it wasnt?
Shut up faggot
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>>19427480
not him but
new ninja 400
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>>19427480
Do you even brap
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>>19427490
>makes less horsepower than a 15 year old Ducati V twin with 50cc less
Now just imqgine if it had a real motor in it instead of some garbage commuter crap.
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>>19427511
>goal posts moved
>apples to oranges
Good job troll
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>>19427501
>budget commuter bike
>>19427508
>emulates a vtwin
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>>19427522
>a clearly superior V twin to the P twin you posted
>moving goalposts
>comparing a v twin and p twin of similar sizes and sporting purpose
>apples to oranges
The mental gymnastics here are incredible.
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>>19427523
You said that "isnt trash"
None of these are trash. They just dont meet your arbitrary goals.
>>19427542
Just kys idiot
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>ptwins aren't god tie-...

OH NONONONO

JUST LOOK AT THIS DUDE

HAHAHAAHAHA

LOOK AT THE TOP OF HIS CYLINDERS
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>>19427546
I'm sorry your favorite layout is trash anon, but sometimes life is hard and you've got to accept facts.
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Vtwins have perfect primary balance and are skinnier
Ptwins are inherently imbalanced, but they're cheaper to make

That's why the performance twins as in >>19427472 are vtwins and the commuters are ptwins. No manufacturers make a ptwin race bike.
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>>19427556
Good one. Sure showed him
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>>19427546
>You said that "isnt trash"
No I didn't, that wasn't me but one of those is trash, the other is only decent because it's imitating a V. It would be better with a vtwin though.
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>>19427574
Mind your own business
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>>19427558
>No manufacturers make a ptwin race bike

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>19427577
>ninja 650
>race bike
Yikes.
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>>19427555
Gross
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>>19427558
>people bitch about vibrating V2
>people love the smooth P2
Seems like you dont know what youre talking about
>no p2 race bike
You wot? Theres an entire series for them
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Post sexy ptwins boys
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>>19427586
Google is your friend, friend.
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>>19427586
And they consistently get BTFO by fucking singles

https://www.motorcyclistonline.com/gopro-onboard-video-ktm-rc390-racebike-sets-lightweight-twins-lap-record-at-sonoma-raceway
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>>19427577
Is that a flat track racer? Because if it is I feel compelled to remind you that the V2-powered Indian dominates it.

Inline twins only advantage is cheaper/easier to produce. The end. Stop being a salty faggot about it.

Refer to >>19427430 before low-effort baiting again.
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>>19427603
No way?!?!? Higher CC bike beats a lower CC bike?!?!?!?+
HOLY SHIT!?!?!?1+?¿
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>>19427591
don't those have a 360° crank?
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>>19427586
putting a shitty beginner bike on a track against other shitty beginner bikes does not make them race bikes
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>all this shit spewing all over
>only comparison is racing
>4cyl beats all anyway
>P2 is better in EVERY other form of riding
Its not like you faggots race anyway. You all commute or pretend to be street rossis or are just nobikes.
So P2 a best
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>>19427622
4 cylindera have no inherent advantage in racing other than heritage
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>>19427622
how is a 2 cylinder better than a 4 cylinder for commuting?
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>>19427621
>bikes competing to win a prize
Sounds like racing
to me
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>>19427629
Post of the century right here
>>19427630
Wait. This one might have him beat.
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>>19427622
>not wanting a torquey, easy to ride vtwin street bike
People like you are why we can't have nice things anymore.
>muh lap times!
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Damn. My PR4GT rear tire is almost to the wear bars with only about 4k miles on it. I thought these were supposed to last like 12k miles. I'm keeping good pressure and everything too.
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>>19427641
Most p2 have equal or higher torque
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>>19427622
>Moving the goal posts.
V2s have shorter crankshafts and perfect primary balance. This has been said already. You cannot get your shitty budged engine to perform as well as a Vtwin on an equal state of tune.

V2 = more performance
i2 = cheap power unit for cheap bikes.
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>>19427652
Flat out not true
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>>19427643
>doing wheelies on a fucking 300 ton boat anchor
>expecting tires to last their full mileage
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>>19427644
They're equal as long as everything else is, but imbalanced so they can't rev as high
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>spent nearly all day riding with my dad

This is a pretty gud feel. Nothing like hanging out with your pops.
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>>19427655
It literally is though
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>>19427658
Not even close to true.
Seriously. Do you even read?
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>>19427655
Great argument.
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>>19427661
That's what it's all about my dude.
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>>19427652
>Moving the goal posts.
No. You v2 fags immediately went for race applications. Even still V2 a shit
>V2s have shorter crankshafts
Yeah harleys are high revving performance machines eh?
>and perfect primary balance.
Thats why so many complain about vibes?
>You cannot get your shitty budged engine to perform as well as a Vtwin on an equal state of tune.
Except they do. Or outperform In nearly every application
>V2 = more performance
Super fast harleys eh?
>i2 = cheap power unit for cheap bikes.
And whats wrong with that? They even btfo V2 in economy.
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>>19427656
I knew wheelies and otherwise riding hard is going to shorten tire life but I didn't think it would be by that much. I got better mileage than this out of much softer tires on my sport bike but the weight and torque really seems to be taking its tole these.

Good news is my Roadtec front seems to be holding up a lot better than the Road 4 did. I'm also going to be upgrading the suspension soon which will hopefully contribute to less sliding and therefore less wear.
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>>19427663
how is the cylinder configuration going to change the torque output of engines in otherwise equal circumstances?
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>>19427688
How is an inline engine unbalance?

Stop saying stupid things
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>>19427663
Here's me spoon feeding you.
Fuck off now, you're embarrassing yourself.
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>>19427661
>tfw you'll never get to ride with your dad
I do not like this feel
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>>19427700
>wikipedia
This proves nothing. And even still "may" produce more vibes.
I see you dont know about 180 v 270 v 360 firing.
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>test ride coworker's ninjer 250R THE BEAST
>feels heavier than my 500lb ADV bike because of how low it is and the fairing and handlebars
>low speed maneuvers (under 12mph) feel incredibly wonky due to the position (or rake?) and small size of the front wheel, feels very uneasy and you really have to crank the bars like a bicycle but then it snaps into that turn in a really unnatural way with the fairing staying straight and it just felt fucked, this to me was the worst part of the bike
>absolutely zero engine vibrations or exhaust sound, feels electric, coming from a riding a thumper this was bizarre, hearing no feedback from the revs and exhaust was unnatural
>cranking the throttle to the max is hilarious because virtually nothing happens, twisting the throttle to the max is just to get the bike from idle up to redline where it needs to stay in order to be usable
>there's completely no engine braking, coasting downhill feels like a bicycle
>I only rode it for 20 mins so I don't have the feel down but I felt like it leaned worse than my bike
>slaloming and weaving back and forth in my lane felt more stiff and less handling
>weird wind buffer when riding tucked, and to get it out of your face/helmet area, you have to sit very upright and then be blasted in the chest
>clutch and tranny was really nice and smooth though

Still was a fun bike and can see the appeal of just cranking that throttle from stoplight to stoplight but I would much rather do that on a dual sport.
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Ptwins are just better.

If italians didn't make vtwins they wouldn't be made.
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>>19427705
>the mental gymnastics
You're hopeless. Are you a flat earther too? They also tend to just reject all information they don't agree with.
It says "may" because you can cancel it out with a balance shaft which restricts performance and adds weight.
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>>19427719
>claims mental gymnastics
>is the one doing the mental gymnastics
Wew lordy
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>>19427721
Good response. You can't even defend your lies anymore.
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>>19427730
Not even the same guy
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>>19427683
Since I am objectively correct I'll simply not stop replying to you. :^)

So, lets go:
>No. You v2 fags immediately went for race applications. Even still V2 a shit
V2s dominated many forms of racing for decades on end. WSBK alone had 18 titles won by them (while i2s won zero, lel >>19427430). Racing gives you a clue as to which kind of engines are truly good and which ones are garbage. This is why you do not really see budget twins being used anywhere. Off-roading gets monos and road racing will see V2s, i3s, i4s and V4s.

>Yeah harleys are high revving performance machines eh?
No, Harleys aren't, but a Ducati Diavel is.

>Thats why so many complain about vibes?
They complain about vibes on 45º UNBALANCED V2s. Add a few counter weights to this flawed engine layout and it gets silky smooth. Or construct them in 90º and laugh your way to the redline.

>Except they do. Or outperform In nearly every application
They do not. They are only used because they are cheaper. If they did, you'd see them used successfully on motor racing. You do not.

>Super fast harleys eh?
No. Super fast 1299 Panigales, however. Where are the i2 superbikes? Or the power cruisers?

>And whats wrong with that? They even btfo V2 in economy.
And what is wrong with that? They only btfo V2 in economy*
FTFY.
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Post Italians plz
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>>19427744
Everyone rates the yamaha twin above the suzuki v650 because theres more to an engine than numbers
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>>19427732
Then you're just as dumb as him. Nothing to be proud of but congratulations anyways.
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>>19427755
He wont mention yamaha because it ruins his troll posting
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>>19427710
>Japs make them.
>Burgers make them.
>Austrians make them.
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>>19427759
does yamaha make a 650 twin?
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>>19427670
comfy pic. which one's yours?
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>>19427762
The best twin cylinder motorbike engine in production
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>>19427632
>enter a wide glide in a race
>hey guys check out my race baik :^)
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>>19427784
Yup
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>>19425488
have had my 500 for a year and a half now, still not regretting it. Fantastic bike. Probably going to keep it when i get a liter bike next year. Just 2 fuel efficient yo.
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>>19427779
You wish.
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>>19427779
Cute twin there anon
How much power does it make again?
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>>19427797
Unreliable trash
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>>19427802
>>19427655
;^)
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>>19427622
This sums it up. P2 > than all for day to day riding
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>>19427779
that isn't a 650 so comparing it to a 650 would not be a fair comparison
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>>19427173
thanks
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>>19427775
The dumb British one
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tfw no V4
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>>19427811
>the vtwin Chad racer
vs
>The ptwin virgin commuter
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>>19427827
>just 2 vtwins welded together
ptwin still better
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>>19427825
best Daytona color
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>>19427830
Im sure youre a racing champ eh?
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>>19427850
More racer than u
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>>19427854
K
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>>19427836
Unless it's a 270 degree crank, p-twins suck.

/thread
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>>19427878
>no option for multiple
Fuck off
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>>19427839
Thank you, but it's actually second best.
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>>19427881
https://strawpoll.com/6zzk5pbh

revised version you whinging weiner
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>>19427898
why did i add the pozzed nigger shit, of course you faggots are going to multiple that
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>>19427909
>street, cruiser, and supersport 2 different answers
Your poll sucks
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>>19427898
>ADV
>dirtbike
I chose both. DR650 is half each, but I figured I'd count that one toward the dirtbike side, and the V-Stronk is obviously on the ADV side.
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>>19427919
>shitzuki
The DR650 gets btfo by 250s
The Vshit is a meme and a horribly unreliable bike
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>>19427918
just mad cuz us streeters are winning you bus cuck
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>>19427928
DR is my 1st bike and IDGAF how it compares to 2t racing dirtbikes.
The V-Stronk is fun and reliable enough. Only issues mine has is a shitty chain and a little oil seepage from the seals behind the main sprocket.

Are you mad that fun things are fun?
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>>19427934
Wut
I put street down
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>>19427941
Not mad.
Just want you to know that you have shit bikes, are brain damaged if you think otherwise, and are poor.
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>>19427945
Curious what you ride, post bike.
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>>19427945
>shit bikes
They're fun.
>think otherwise
They're cheap and cheerful and I'm fully aware of that fact.
>poor
More like overspent while moving so am still digging myself out of that hole, but I'll give you... 3/4 of a point for that one.
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>>19427945
What's wrong with being poor :(
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>>19427951
>Suzuki shitposter
>having a bike
kek, not likely
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>>19427951
TT600
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>>19427968
fuck off WR
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>>19427951
KTM690 duke
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>>19427951
Fiero with a body kit
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>>19427979
Dick status: MUH
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>>19427610
Only a 50cc difference
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>>19427800
>not even 160 hp out of a 4-cyl liter.

the fuck is this 2005?
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>>19427779
>*laughs in austrian
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>>19428038
>4 cylinder
>959 panigale
You lose your glasses bud?
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>>19427797
Oof those twin cans...
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>>19426810
V65? Magnas were king, fucking Evel Knievel rode them.
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>>19428038
>4cyl
Oh my sweet summer child.
Anyways look at the VFR to be disgusted.
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>>19426155
Shadow isn't THAT slow bro.
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>>19427797
Monster L-twin is best twin
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>>19427779
>>19427800
>>19428047
Excuse me nerds, but the 1198 Testastretta is still in production.
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>>19428047
>ride on wet road
>rider and bike completely covered in grime from lack of adequate fenders
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>>19428071
>L-twin
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>>19428048
>superquadro
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>>19428056
v65 was only an option for the first gens. After that it was only 700/750.

Also I have never heard of Evel jumping a Magna. He used a bunch of different bikes over the years. Probably just used whatever he was able to get sponsored with at the time. I heard he liked Triumphs best although he jumped Harleys for years.
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>>19428111
>four valves per cylinder
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>>19428111
Holy shit you're serious, that's fucking hysterical, please continue thinking the 959 is a 4 cylinder.

>>19428120
I'm pretty sure the name comes from how oversquare the engine is.
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>>19428092
Not a fan of the smol tails on bikes these days.
Also, I keep seeing these bikes on the road and am thoroughly disgusted every time.
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>>19428111
Four in italian is quattro, not quadro you imbecile.
Quadro means "frame".

Also:
>Liquid cooled 90° 955 cc (58.3 cu in) V-twin, 4-valve/cyl desmodromic
>V-twin
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ducati_959


Here's from the Ducati's website if you don't trust wikipedia:
>The Superquadro in the 959 Panigale guarantees a power output of 150 hp at 10,500 rpm and 102 Nm of torque at 9,000 rpm. Thanks to the L-twin cylinder and Riding Modes, the rider can easily modulate the high power of the engine and adapt it to his or her riding style and road conditions.
https://www.ducati.com/us/en/bikes/panigale/959-panigale
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>>19428092
I don't think that bike is really meant to be a street bike, I mean look at those tires
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>>19428173
What about them
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>>19426014
Me in the corner
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>>19426534
Jokes on you,never punched any mirror(seems an american thing) and havent dated any girl in 6 years.
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>>19427268
Since it's inevitable, I hope your accident is single-vehicle.
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>>19428112
wtf am I looking at




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