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Is this the basic truck you asked for?
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>>19556148
I like this.
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Uh. Wheres the v8?
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>>19556154
In the F-150.
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>>19556154
>basic
>V8
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MIM, amiright
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Who's buying these trucks in the US? Now they aren't much cheaper than full size 1/2 tons and they don't get much better MPGs and they are less capable. Why not just buy a 1/2 ton and call it a day.
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i just bought a brand new crew cab 4x4 silverado for a couple thousand more
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>>19556148
single cab manual available?
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>>19556148
Literally needs to be cost competitive with the Fiesta ($13-15k base model) for it to not be a stupid product from Ford. So no.
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fuuuu god damn i want a new ranger. i dont know why but i do
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>>19556181
this
barebones little truck shouldnt cost 25k wtf
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>start-stop technology
Yeah uh get that trash outta here
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>>19556181
There are rumors this is gonna be the new courier on the focus platform.
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>>19556148
>tfw usa doesn't get 3.2 I5 turbo diesel
why even bother with the ranger now
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>XL
>2.3L
Where can I get some spare OEM trucknuts for this badboy?
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>>19556173
>I spent more money on a shit truck
Lol
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>>19556197
I like it.
If it was rwd...
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>>19556204
>4x4
>can actually tow things
>functionable back seats
haha ok, id pay the extra 2k for 4x4 alone
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>implying anyone actually buys a Ford at MSRP unless it's a boomer special Mustang
20k-ish after employee pricing and whatever incentives you can stack on.
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>>19556148
Too much electrical. I want to be able to drive the truck with fewer than 10 fuses
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>>19556164
Michigan? Yes.
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>>19556148
I am pretty sure that you can get an F150 cheaper than that during truck month. But the larger pick ups move more so the profit margins can be tighter. I have this suspicion that the Ranger stripy is better equipped than the F150 though...

>>19556181
>>19556186
You can get an base F150 for about 17k or 18K when rebates and shit kick in depending on where you live.

>>19556191
They are putting that on EVERYTHING now. I remember when I first saw it on a CR-Z back in 11. Now they are throwing that shit on F150, Durango, Pilot, Cherokee you fucking name it.

And do not get me started on that trash 9speed transmission. Everybody is so obsessed with fuel and emission ratings its killing the auto industry.
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>>19556279
Ford's 10 speed auto is actually good. Apparently it's lighter than 6 speed, somehow. It can skip 4 gears at a time so you're never hunting around for the right one.
t. test drove an auto GT
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>>19556287
Come back to me when the superduties have the 10R80 in them. Since they dont. Its proof to me that the 6R80 is still stronger.
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>>19556167
there are people who don't want to own something that is 20 feet long and 7 feet wide.
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>>19556287
Perhaps, my problem was specifically with the 'ZF 9 speed transmission' that every manufacturer was buying and putting in their cars for better economy.

I do not know a lot about their 10 speed, but I would give it time. Look at what happened with the Dual clutch on the American Focus, it turned out to be a fucking disaster. Or fuck Nissan thinking they could put a CVT in a Pathfinder, that was another shit show.

I remember the first time I drove a Pilot Elite with the 9 speed, it was alright at first. But then I saw how they aged like dog shit and had so many fucking problems. then their was a recall. Its why Honda replaced it with their own 10 speed, which seemed better but like the Ford you mentioned I am not holding my breath.
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>>19556164
Michigan, my uncle works at the factory making them. They just re machined the line.
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>>19556148
I like it
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>>19556287
>Ford's
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>>19556197
Call it a Ute you cowards.
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>>19556402
I imagine they would in the antipodes
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Come back when it has bench seats and 90% of the electronics are gone
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>boohoo it's unfair 25k is too much for a large sturdy utility vehicle
What the flying fuck is it with fatburgers being such entitled little shits about car prices?
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>>19556148
Why even bother with new vehicles when fine used one exist for way cheaper.
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>>19556508
Because 25 thousand for an actual bare bones truck is fucking ridiculous.
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>>19556534
Why?
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>>19556197
utes coming to usayy this is a good thing
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I would like a ute pls thank you
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>>19556541
That’s half a yearly salary for an American. And cars nowadays cost a higher percentage of a persons yearly salary than they did back then.
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>>19556508
Because it's a ranger and not an F-150. Ford already sells entry-level vehicles in a price range 10 grand cheaper than that, and the ranger needed to be put in that price range, not the same (or more expensive) range as a base model F-150, it eliminates the point.
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>>19556596
And? Somehow half an annual salary isn't adequate for a purpose like this? You wanna buy a new vehicle every three years or something?
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>>19557941
I bet the Ranger will save you a lot on your gas bill and insurance
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>>19556148
>2.3l autotragic
>supercab not singlecab
>2wd
God awful
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>>19556534
Or you can pay 25k for 2.7 4banger shit Tacoma base model
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>>19556148
>$24k for a basic truck
That seems a bit expensive considering I paid $28k for my Ferd Ferd-150 XLT when it was new.
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>>19556148
No. It's too big.
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>>19558129
>more heavy
>more fuel-sipping
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>>19556148
Hopefully fleets and companies start buying these and it will finally show the the F series is only the “best selling truck” because of said feets
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>>19558100
You can't get trucks in fucking manual these days. Grow the fuck up kid you don't tow or drive trucks for shit
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>>19556148
>24k starting
absolutely just fuck my shit up
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>>19558143
They only account for maybe 20%, still the best selling not counting fleet sales. That's always the most pathetic argument salty fucks like you use.
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>>19556308
any modern """"""""""midsized"""""""""" truck is probably 19 feet by 6 1/2 due to emissions and safety regulations
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>>19558140
>neutering yourself over AT MOST 4 mpg city
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>>19556148
>25k for a vehicle with weaker regulations than a car
Trucks like this should cost around 15k.
You have the play house people who live in the suburbs wanting a truck for the tough guy image which inflate the price.
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>>19558161
Durr yes you can
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>>19556148

the only reason i'd want this/colorado/taco would be because driving a truck in a city is terrible. so if someone else can suggest something that is somewhat competent for light off-road/snow duty i'd get that.
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I'm waiting for the Ranger Raptor and crossing my fingers that it's not fucking neutered.
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>>19556162
Yes. V8s are the cheap power for everyone
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>>19556148
>bucket seats
Fuck you, bench or nothing.
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>>19559618
Only based chevy
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>>19556167
>they are less capable
But are they really in a practical sense? I doubt 90+% of the people buying a truck ever actually "max" it out.

And you could argue that a smaller truck is actually more capable of the things most people do with their trucks which is park it at TGI Fridays and Costco.
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Reminder that this is still the best truck if you live in the suburbs.
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>>19556173
uh huh
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>>19558161
>You can't get trucks in fucking manual these days

>What is the Tacoma
>What is the Colorado/Canyon
>What is the Frontier
>What is the Ram 2500
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>>19558129
This. Why pay almost the same price for a less capable vehicle with a lol 2.3l i4 turbo
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>>19559748
That's why there are always options. There's always somebody who will max it out. Most of the time if they aren't used as a tool outside of taking themselves from a to b its a status symbol
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>>19556167
>Why not just buy a 1/2 ton and call it a day
This is exactly why domestic 1/4 ton pickup trucks disappeared. Compare a new 4x4 Colorado and Silverado, and the choice is obvious.

Anyone who says otherwise isn't actually a new truck buyer. All these fools on /o/ and Jalopnik keep whining about how there isn't a Ranger or Dakota option, you're never going to actually buy one. That's why car companies keep ignoring y'all, because they market new vehicles to people who actually fuckin buy them.
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>>19556148
>Ecoboost
Where's the na v6?
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>>19556173
This. You would have to be retarded to buy a 1/4 ton pickup truck over a 1/2 ton. Except for Tacomas just because of their fucky resale values.
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>>19559579
How is it terrible? I drive a 4 door ram 1500 in Houston every day. Literally no different than anything that's not a miata sized. I can park everywhere. You guys act like trucks are fucking 18 wheelers.
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>>19559790
You've spent too much time on Wikipedia and not enough time in the real world. Go to any of your nearest dealers and report back how many manual transmission new trucks they have for sale.
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>>19559758
reminder that you might as well get a hatchback since it has more usable space, especially if you put a rack and basket ontop
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>>19560210
Not everyone lives in Texas.
Good luck driving around Boston or San Francisco, let alone finding a parking space large enough.
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>>19560275
>traffic in this highly populated major city is different than the traffic in your highly populated city
lol tard.
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>>19556197
I want an ST version for shits and gigs.
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>>19556315
Bro I work at a nissan dealer - ALL nissan CVT's were and continue to be fucked up. They've started training the techs how to replace the metal belts now to save on freight.
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>>19556148
So, a base Camry LE disguised as a Ford Truck?
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>>19559790
Yeah, manuals for faggy ass 2wd versions, you cant get a 4wd manual anymore, tacoma discontinued theirs last year.
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>>19560290
I'm not talking about traffic, I'm talking about the roads themselves you fucking retard.
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>>19560508
....So these very particular cities you spoke about.... They have roads smaller than vehicles built to legally fit on them? You think every major city on earth doesn't have tight parking and skinny roads with no shoulders? Spoiler a truck isn't going to be wider than the fucking lane on a regular road. You're just making excuses so you can justify that shit ass truck.
You know I took my E250 extended body down the "curviest road in the world".... So literally no one is buying your excuses.
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>>19559758
That's not a truck, it's uni-body and AWD.
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>>19560378
Hey faggot, you can still get a ram 2500 with the Cummins and 4WD in ST
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>>19556148
How many cup holders does it have?
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>>19560216
>You've spent too much time on Wikipedia and not enough time in the real world.
you do realize dealer can find other dealers in your province/state that has one on the lot.
Also they can order you one.

Its clear you've never bought a car before.
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>>19556148
>overcomplicated turbo 4cylinder engine with stop/start memory
Lel. Where is the low compression v8?
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>>19556148
If im paying 24k i want a fucking V8
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Needs to be like 18-20k.
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>No manual

FUCK OFF FORD!

It's not a real fucking ranger without a manual.
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>>19556179
Lol I wish even though I wouldn’t buy one. No single cab option at all and Ford hasn’t had a manual trans in a while.
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>>19556148

Not a V8. Not a manual. Not a mechanically controlled 4x4. No locking hubs. EFI. Electronic nannies. LED lights. Infotainment garbage. Not a true regular cab.

Into the trash it goes.
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>>19560545

i grew up in San Francisco. i wouldn't drive a normal sedan in San Francisco or Boston. there's not room for either of those cities to spread out due to geography, hills, and history, so you're going to have to deal with tiny parking spaces, low clearance garages, cramped roads, aggressive and litigious bicycles who don't follow traffic laws, etc., and keep in mind i'm talking about doing all that with a 3 series. it's really not the spot for a F-250 or bigger unless you specifically have the spot roped off for you with cones or something. a colorado/ranger/taco might be able to get away with it, on the other hand.
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>>19561714

also for reference, my San Francisco private high school (arguably the top school in the city), in the wealthiest old-money neighborhood in the city, had no parking garage. you had to buy a driveway spot from a dude who probably was descended from a robber baron if you wanted to drive, since the school would not let you if you didn't have a guaranteed parking spot.
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>>19556148
I'd buy one just like that if it had the NA V6 and a 4x4 shifter on the floor. It better have low range too. The new 10 speed is supposed to be pretty god tier as well
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>>19561581
>EFI
Let's be reasonable
>Electric nannies
Mandated by law
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>>19559758
>unibody
>awd
>2’ bed
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Last year the barebones F-150 was $18,000
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>>19561035
there is no legitimate reason to buy a manual truck in the current year.
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>>19561581
>V8
>Ranger

u wot m8?
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>>19556148
>basic
>costs 5 grand more than a base colorado
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>>19557967
No, dumbass, the problem is that you can pick up a full size F-150 for barely any more. Why wouldn’t you spend 55% of your salary instead of 50% and get a way better truck?
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>>19556148
>am/fm stereo w/ 4 speakers is a key feature
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>>19562283

Some people like shifting on their own?
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>>19562326
You don't buy a truck for manual. People buy trucks for towing and shit and you don't want a fucking manual for towing
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>>19562331
.t Someone who has never towed anything heavy

Gee I wonder why over the road trucks use 18 speed manual transmissios???

Have fun with your autotragic rebuild after you over heat it.
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>>19556148
>daddy bought me a $60k ford F150 with four doors, a 6 1/2 foot box, box cover, and screen for the radio

I would never in a million years brag or act like a spoiled shit head in person. But on here I get off on it. I'm a pampered rich kid with a daddy worth 200+ million dollars. The same day he bought me the truck he was then immediately heading to his childhood friends house to give him a check for $175k to help him buy a new house. Rich fucker. I wonder how good it feels to be loaded and capable of buying nice things for the people you love.
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>>19556197
Yaes!
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>>19562361
T. Somebody with no mechanical aptitude.

It's not 1998 anymore

I've worked in truck shops, private, fleet and government. Automatics are taking over. 5 years ago when I worked at a freightliner/western star dealer we were selling 2 automatic trucks for every manual one we sold.
Currently working for federal government. We no longer spec any manual trucks, even heavy haul western stars are getting Allisons or automated manuals
Fleets are buying almost exclusively automatic trucks.
Heavy equipment and offroad trucks are all auto now
The Allison's are pretty much bomb proof, the automated eaton's just as tough or tougher than the original manual ones. Detroit's dt12 is pretty trouble free, and tough as fuck, did warranty work on them for 6 years and never seen one actually fail

Tldr; The only people buying manuals are small old fleets and super trucker asphalt cowboy retards. Manual is outdated, slower, less efficient and weaker. The only thing they have going for them is ease of repair and simplicity.
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>>19556148
The cheapest Taco is about 22k and the cheapest Colorado about the same. However no dealer within 700 miles of me has one or will order one. They really start at about 30k.
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>>19562361
No longer true. Pretty sure the only new diesel pickup truck you can get with a standard is a base model Cummins ram, and if you get the standard the engine is detuned something like 200 lb./ft so the trans will survive
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>>19558174
The GMC Sierra and the Silverado are the same truck. You do realize that, right?
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>>19559758
It gets worse gas mileage than a Silverado and costs more.
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>>19558140
>Can tow
>Can haul more than 200 ibs in the bed
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>>19562361
You're retarded. Semi truck technology is literally 30 years behind consumer vehicle technology. Notice how ALL consumer trucks today including ones thst tow with their large v8s are all automatic. You can't get the higher end consumer pickup trucks in manual at all and if you can like on a Tacoma it's not the high end engine trin
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>>19560962
I couldn't find what I wanted in my state or any neighboring state. Dealers didn't want to order it. One did and took a deposit and called back 5 weeks later and said they couldn't get it. All I wanted is a manual, it's listed on the manufacturers website ffs.
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>>19556148
Wtf how's that thing 27k
In Europe you pay that much for a decent hatchback, like a golf or a Giulietta
Nowadays you can't get a decent citycar for less than 15/20k with a few optionals
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>>19562508
>Trucks are 90% auto trans now
>This is somehow because autos are better for towing and not because of silly things like demand
I wonder what it would be like to be that stupid, even for a day.
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>>19556148
It's too big for a Ranger.
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>>19556148
>ranger
>literally the size of an F150 from the 90s
No, I'm looking for a Nissan minitruck before considering this/
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>>19562545
>thinks he can shift faster, smoother and more efficiently than a computer controlled auto.

You can't, retard
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>>19562614
That's not what this is about at all. Controlling what gear you're in is very useful when weighed down, and especially on non-paved roads. If you had ever used a truck as a truck and not a mall crawler you might know this.
>I wonder what it would be like to be that stupid, even for a day.
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>>19556148
How did you build this? I can’t find it on the ford website at all.
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hope they install the correct head gasket
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>>19562678
>implying you can't do that with an auto
I actually have a class 1 licence and heavy equipment tech red seal. I even own my own personal dump truck and my daily driver is a 5 speed f150. I'm just not so retarded to try to justify manual being superior, because they simply aren't. Autos have come a lo g way from the slushboxes they were 20 years ago. Facts are facts, get over it faggot
Again, it's not 1998
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>>19560177
>Jalopnik
You mean that liberal political blog that sometimes mentions cars in their ramblings?
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>>19558112
I paid 31k for a nicely optioned 2018 Tacoma TRD offroad with the V6 and manual
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>>19560378
Thats weird. I guess Toyota made my 2018 Tacoma with 4WD and a manual specially for me if they discontinued them in 2017.
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>>19556191
Welcome to the environmentally friendly future of fleet emissions standards, hope you like shit power, shit response, and tissue bodies designed to protect pedestrians
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>>19562508
You can get a V6 tacoma with a manual.
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>>19561581
4X4 is obviously an option.
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>>19562784
What are you even on about you giant fucking idiot?
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>>19556148
It’s a cool truck. I saw some guys from the Ford Plant doing a test drive on Route 66. There was also a show and tell at Galpin Ford. All in all it’s a cool truck but it wasnt meant to be the working mans light pick up, thats now the job of the 1/2 ton trucks
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Yes. Now why is it so slanty in the front? I like my trucks like I like my foreskin, square please.
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>>19556148
Still 6k too expensive.
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>>19562758
>Has all these qualifications
>He thinks D3 on an auto with 10 gears is the same as 3rd gear on a 5 speed
The larp is strong
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>>19563236
Point out where he said that.
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>Quick, let's think of all of the reasons so many people still jerk off to 30 year-old Japanese shitboxes and then ignore all of those reasons and build something that's basically an F-150's retarded little brother
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it's not even 4x4 what's the point
and for all the muh 1/2 ton fags, small dick much? lol
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>>19556148
NA isn't Aus, we don't have the aftermarket for them here. So no.
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>>19562606
this, it's a shame mini trucks will never be popular again
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>>19556148
I want a crew cab, leather seats, and 4wd for $25,000 out the door, brand new.

That's what Ford needs to be offering.
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>>19562505
>like >95% of truck owners, never tows and never halls anything in the bed
I have hauled more shit in the bed of my Tacoma moving furniture for friends than anyone I know who owns a anything short of an 350/3500 or commercial grade truck that works on a farm. I have towed more shit with my 1/4 ton truck than anyone I know who isn't operating a fucking tow service.

You fucking concrete cowboy wannabes don't buy your trucks to work with them. If you did, you'd understand a bed 5 1/2 feet off the ground is goddamned useless, you wouldn't want a bulky plastic body that can't fit through anything, and you wouldn't be giving up your full-length beds for double-cab bullshit. You want a glorified SUV with a tiny bed attached that's too tall to be useful for any kind of job and too wide to fit through fucking access gates so you can feel like your dick is big when you drive past Civics down the highways and cities streets you never take your truck off of. Don't tell me shit about all the towing and hauling you never fucking do. The mexicans around here move more shit cutting lawns than you will in the entire lifespan of your truck, fuccboi.
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>>19556308
>pic related
>18' by 7'
Technically, you're right. But that's the base dimensions. Mid-sized trucks are an absolute ripoff designed for fleets and morons with little money and sense, like BMW owners.
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What state do you live in and will you let me use your dealership?
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What is it about full size trucks that cause uncontrollable reeeing on /o/?
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>>19565017
You can't even get that in a car... Why the fuck do you think that's possible in a truck that takes more material to make?
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>>19565121
The roofuckers absolutely loath them because they're stuck with their shitty watered down ElCamino's and shitty $90k flatbed Toyotas.

It's funny because every aussie contractor/trades guy I meet here in leafland drives a full sized pickup.
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>>19565059
Lmao. A Tacoma is different from a 4 cylinder truck that I was referring to like the Colorado or OP. Chill out bruh.
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>>19565990
>they offer the tacoma in a 4 cylinder configuration, as of 2018.
uhm.
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>>19565993
Well I doubt the guy I was talking to was talking to was saying these Mexican lawn workers were driving the newest 2018 Tacoma. And for the record, I don't own a truck currently, but have driven Ford dumptrucks and hauled boats in the past. If I was going to get a truck I'd get one that can tow more than a 1000 pounds for obvious reasons.
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>>19566004
Oh, then that changes everything. Majority of the wetbacks here in Texas, (living southernmost texas, about Brownsville), you see lots of them driving in old beat up Toyota, Nissan, Mistubishi, Ford, and Chevy trucks. The crowd favorite is Toyota, and they usually drive around old 1986-89 or at tops, 2003 4Runners, Tacomas, Trucks, and even Land Cruisers. They are not ideal for towing 1000 pounds of weight behind them, but they manage to do it somehow. Those spics usually have a wealth of knowledge of repairing these nice trucks, but unless you speak their language and able to bargain with them, if they aren't stubborn cunts, then you got yourself some nice information to do whatever you want with that Toyota truck you see rolling down the street. Tattered. Old. Rusted. but still choogling along.
>Pic related.
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>>19562320
you're the only dumbass here, friend
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>>19560545
holy shit imagine being this retarded
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>>19563797
He caulnt because he has the dumbs.
Probably thinks carberators are better than fuel injection too
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>>19566013
They aren't 4 cylinders. You really seem to lack reading comprehension.
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>>19566059
3rd time is the charm. I am actually stupid. Sorry.
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>>19562508
>>19562508

>Semi truck technology is literally 30 years behind consumer vehicle technology

You really think that these multi-million dollar freight companies really choose to use least efficient methods?

>HURRR consumer trucks are better built for towing than tractor trailers.

How is it that pound for pound a semi truck tows significantly more?

The scariest thing about the automatics is that if you look at TFLtrucks towing challenge for the diesel F-150 you would notice that when the truck went into limp home mode it FORCED them out of engine braking. Now Americans think that that slight incline is a "torture test" but if that happened on roads in my parts you would have a hard time not roasting the brakes within less than a 1/4 mile.
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>>19561823

EFI means PCM means computer faults which can't be fixed with a toolbox. If it isn't carburated, it's overly complicated. An older, square body half ton is still the best option as a work truck.
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>>19566160

>Have america truck with EFI
>Out of the blue it is hard to start and barely runs
>Need to keep foot in the throttle constantly
>Bucking like it's a manual and I am learning to drive
>Get it home
>6 codes for various parts of the engine controls
>Pull off battery for 30 mins
>Codes clear
>Hasn't happened again for a year now

>Have another SUV
>MAF went bad
>IACV went bad
>TPS went bad all within a few months of eachother
>OBD port is crumbling
>All electricals are falling apart

Meanwhile my carb'd 3Y smelt a little rich, so I changed the air filter as it was about time and she is right as rain

EFI is great until something breaks and then it is money.
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>>19566192

Precisely.

I like EFI in my race car. It's more efficient for road racing and I don't mind the cost because of it. For my truck, though? No. I want mechanical simplicity. If I've got my car trailered up behind me and I'm on my way to a race, I don't want to wind up stranded on the side of the road because a computer shit its pants.

Granted, I currently have a First Gen Cummins for that duty. It's mechanically complex, but can be worked on. No computer, just one wiring harness from the battery powering the whole fucking truck.
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>>19556148
>ford
I like having a vehicle that has a working transmission, so no, its not.
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>>19559668
You spelled hemi wrong.
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>>19556148
>Ecobust
Forced induction is extra responsibility

Craiglist ads galore with "blown engine" and "head gasket needed" coming soon since most Americans don't know how to take care of their vehicles
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>>19556191
Disable that by tricking the truck into thinking it's towing a trailer with a trailer lights tester
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>>19556197
It's about damn time, been almost 30 years since we had Utes in this "FreedomLand"
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>>19556148
Can u turbo it tho?
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>>19562283
>There is no legitimate reason to use what you're comfortable with

If im too stubborn to learn automatic, I'd get a standard
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>>19556148
>with Auto Start-Stop """"""""Techonology"""""""
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>>19565990
The 4 cylinder Ford is unironically going to be better for towing than all the other gas engines in it’s class. The only thing better will be the Chevy 4 pot diesel.
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>>19567070
I can’t even find any blown fords on Craigslist. That meme comes from vapes nuking their scoobs. The only old boosted fords I can think of are probes, and their issues were glass transmissions.
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>>19567111
it's already turbo'd retard
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>>19567177
Can u supercharge it then?
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>>19556398
its their transmission, so possesive "ford's" is correct
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>>19556191
>>19556279
>>19562828
>>19560999
>>19567077
>>19567153
Or you know, just hit the start/stop cancel button right next to the 4WD selector...
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>>19556148
How many stupid computers and sensors does it have? How many pointless electronics does it come standard with? I just want a Hilux 2.0 in diesel.
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>>19567223
I've rented cars with that system. It's the most infuriating "tech" ever devised. It should be set to off, but instead you have to hit the stupid button every time you get in the car. You have to pay for this cancer on your brand new car, only to then have to hit that button thousands of times of the course of owning your car, all so the auto manufacture can get good boy points with the EPA.

>stop for a second at a stop sign
>car shuts off
>stop to make a left on a green for a moment
>car shuts off
>stop at a light with the a/c on
>car shuts off for 5 seconds, then restarts to keep the a/c running, then shuts off again

So fucking annoying, I don't care about saving 4% more fuel, I'd gladly burn much more. Buy a fucking prius if you're such a spend thrifty faggot or environmentalist douche.

yes mad
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>>19556191
Agreed
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>>19556541
Bare bones v8 f150 is $27k
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>>19558140
Supercew v8 f150 weighs the same as the Tacoma and gets 4mpg better city
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>>19567329
>IM TOO FUCKING DUMB TO PUSH A BUTTON
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>>19567384
>IM TOO FUCKING DUMB TO BUY A BETTER PRODUCT
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>>19567223
>basic
>Lmao just turn off the pointless retarded engine stop start system
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>>19567464
Nobody makes a better midsize pickup. Ones a Chevy, and the other has an antiquated engine.

>>19567626
Yeah, idk what’s so difficult about it. Anons be retarded n shit
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>>19567653
The point is that a retard engine on/off system isn't basic
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>>19567662
What’s not basic about it? It’s just a button to press. They would have been retarded not to install it, considering it’s part of the transmission design.

But then again, this board is full of idiots.
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>>19556148
>turbo
No thank you.
Give us a big cheap reliable low stress L6 or V8.
Give us a manual transmission.
Give us manual everything.
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>>19562508
>>19562361

Umm do you realize most fleets are buying automatic highway and city tractors right? Some use an automated clutch but a lot use a torque converter automatic.

Modern automatics in consumer vehicles hold more power and are more idiot proof therefore more durable.
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>>19567690
This doesn’t even make sense. The old Ranger never even had a V8, just an anemic V6 or an okay V6.

Then again, manufags can’t even afford a new truck anyways, so the point is moot.
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>>19567685
>transmission that requires retarded stop/start system is basic
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>>19567716
You still haven’t said anything but retarded.
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>>19567714
>X NEBER HAD A V8!!!
So?
Give us a low stress big v8 or inline 6 in a bare bones truck with manual everything.
I don't care about historical mistakes.
The difference in cost between a Ford 300 and and this 2.3 Ecoboost is ridiculous.
A tiny stressed turbo pile of shit is more expensive and less reliable than what I'm asking for.
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>>19567725
>claims truck is basic
>but unnecessary stop/start system
>Reeeeeee Ur retard
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>>19567728
Well thank your congressmen for that. You’re not going to get what you want brand new ever again, so you might as well stop bitching that the manufacturers won’t break the law for you.
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You guys know that every car lets you turn Auto Start off, right?
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>>19567728
I hope you don't think that trucks cost $10k in the 90's.... With inflation they're pretty much priced how they are now. Buy a plain and simple Colorado or WT spec Silverado and quit your bitching. A brand new truck is going to be more reliable than some rusted out piece of shit with a 300. I don't even know why you people bitch about getting more truck for your dollar. Trucks are supposed to make a job easier then you want it to have manual everything, why?
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>>19567743
Point out where I claimed it was basic. I will also wait until you describe what is so complex about the start/stop system.
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>>19567728
The 2.3 is already a proven engine, and go suck a dick if you want a stick so bad, it’s retarded to have in a truck. Trucks aren’t for Drivingfeele™
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>>19567759
>>19556148
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>>19567776
I said point out where I said that, not OP. Still waiting on the other one too.
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>>19567796
>Theme of thread is basic trucks
>Faganon claims an extra unnecessary feature is a basic item
>Faganon still defends his shitpost.
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I removed one wire from this truck, is it simple enough yet?
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>>19567796
So you're in the wrong thread? Got it
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>>19556148
Front end is too round. Nothx
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>>19567815
Where did you find this ranger builder? It’s not on the ford USA site
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>>19567806
>makes up a lie
>needs to move goalposts to defend it

>>19567816
So you have no clue what context is? got it.
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>>19567826
>he's still posting
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>>19560319
i dont understand how there are no lawsuits
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>>19566745
you have the priorities wrong. ECM are not the failure of newer diesels.

what is?
the cancer of EGR
the failure cancerous idea of using DEF

remove both these and you have a very reliable engine.
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>>19559758
>truck
lol

>>19561035
>muh manual
build a fucking time machine and go back in time you boomer. manuals are dead, stop grasping onto it you shithead.
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>>19567824
Ford accidentally put it up and took it down right away. It'll be back up again in a couple weeks
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>>19567818
Too round? I hate how every full-size pickup truck has a massive front grille and shape. You night be able to shave down the front-end for a boost in aerodynamics, but I'm not a specialist. Maybe I'm just a compact/mid-size truck fan.
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>>19567830
>he still has no argument
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>>19567860
Fuck. I always miss shit like this. Do you know what the XLT w/ FX4 costed by chance? Or anything with the FX4 package
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>>19567889
I think it was a touch under 28k for a base trim + 4X4.
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>>19567818
Just get a Silverado then. It’s just squares and rectangles.
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>>19567881
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>>19567918
It’s just a button bro, what’s so hard about pushing it?
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>>19567329
Could you just short the button so that it's always pressed?
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>>19567966
You could try pressing the button.
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>>19567912
Nah I'm gonna get a raptor (someday)
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>>19567984
Hope they throw the 2.7 EB into the Ranger to make a ranger raptor
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>>19560177
>Y'all
>Jalopnik
Jesus, /o/ was never good at this but it's too much right now
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>>19568003
It’s all the summer fags
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>>19567987
They already have a 3.5, but I'll take my 6.2
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>>19567973
The point is to make it so you don't have to push the button every time. That's gonna be one worn out ass button in 10 years being pushed every single time the car is started.
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>>19556154
I got a V8 for ya

right here in my drawers
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>>19567751
No. Regulations are dumb.
Trump is already making regulations great again by pushing against obama era junk mpg standards.

>>19567758
Manual everything doesn't make anything harder, but it does make everything more reliable.
No one wants a truck they need to have serviced with computers every other week.
If my truck dies on the road, I want to be able to stick her in gear and crank her to move her.
I don't want to have to call a tow truck because my computer controller locking differential sensor malfunctioned and now my shift into drive is denied.
Trucks are about doing what needs doing despite what's going wrong.

>>19567765
Oh boy, you've never driven a manual truck if you honestly think this. I would under no circumstance own an automatic truck or SUV ever.
I've had a 01 GMC 2500 in manual and a 97 Dodge 3500 diesel in manual. My dad has an 04 Ram 3500 diesel in automatic and it's soul sucking to drive that piece of shit. The cummins with a stick is a fucking joy and a jewel.
And SUVs in stick are fucking glorious. I've had a Raider, Samurai, and a YJ all in stick. And they're dank. I drove a buddies automatic yj and it was such an awful experience. A manual makes a car responsive. A manual makes a car tight. A manual makes driving driving.
Pushing down on a pedal hoping the computer and slush will react is fucking junk.
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>>19568381
>slush
LOL faggot it's 2018. I do hotshot for a living. Auto>manual for driving a truck. KYS my dude.
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>>19568031
I know. It wouldn’t make sense to do that because then there's no reason to have a 3.5 F-150 raptor.
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>>19568439
I don't know what hot shot is.
But I have driven plenty of modern automatics. While they shift quickly now, they're still slushy as fuck and never know what you want from them.
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>>19568511

Hot shot is basically rushed delivery and who ever can bring it fastest gets the job.

A lot of highway miles.
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A basic bitch f150 is a few thousand more.
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>>19568588
It's not just highway. Half of my job is city driving.

>>19568511
Its delivery for urgent things (oil field, electrical, medical etc etc etc) using big trucks every day with trailers and goose-necks. IE I've drive hundreds of trucks and for hundreds of thousands of miles.
Auto>manual for anything but
>muhhhh manuuuaalllllllll
babies.
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>>19568657
A semi fully loaded double cab silverado V8 is a few thousand more.
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>>19556148
I’m getting mine in that sweet orange.
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>>19568772
>semi fully loaded
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>>19560545
>They have roads smaller than vehicles built to legally fit on them
Yes, literally everywhere
In fact in Italy even tiny shitbox cars have trouble fitting those narrow passages
Most of those kinds of roads are thousands of years old anon, not every place was built with cars in mind
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>>19566147
>>You really think that these multi-million dollar freight companies really choose to use least efficient methods
They choose to use the CHEAPEST methods
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>>19556287
Honda's 10 speed in the 2.0T Accord is really good too, i had my doubts but it was always in the right gear while in sport mode and suited the engine very well. As long as they can be reliable
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>>19560508
>baird being dumb
Wow /o/ doesn't change
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my first car was a ranger, I'd like to never have one again
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>>19567223
Comes back on every time you turn the car off and on
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>>19560545
you're aware that some people built cities before there were cars, right?
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The perfect truck
>compact
>4x4
>v6
>regular cab
>manual
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>>19573303
Wasn't that basically the first gen Chevy Colorado? Except it had an I5 instead of a v6
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>>19560999
In the 12 year old f150 that Sanchez & sons are using to do the drywall at the new WaWa
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>>19569728
Italian fag here
I remember that time I was going through Ischia with my dad in our new shiny Freelander (which is not a big car) and suddenly the road became Apetta sized
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>>19573441
>first gen Chevy Colorado
I had one of them rear end my Ford Ranger.
Ripped a headlight out of the Chevy. Couldn't even tell the difference on my Ford.
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>>19567329
I think it's quite comfy, when you stop at a light sign it goes off and you have silence for good conversation and music, when you need to start you just press the clutch and by the time your foot is down the engine is already on and ready (on a 1.4L diesel, I don't know if it's that good ok the average American 15L V36)

My new croma has a 1.9 diesel without start and stop and I kinda wished I had, I hate wasting fuel in the city
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>>19573303
You forgot some.

>Bench seat
>No nannies
>No touchscreens
>Manual differentials
>Engine options include a turbodiesel and carbed models




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