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Knife thread.

I’m looking for a good general purpose knife to take outdoors. It needs to be extremely durable, and also big enough to be used as a secondary self-defense weapon again any wild animals I may encounter.

I know /out/ has a big hard-on for Moras, but could someone tell me why? I looked through their website, and they’re pretty ugly. If push comes to shove I don’t know if I would trust one. Thoughts?
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They're dirt cheap and yet easily compete with far more expensive knives, they're so cheap you won't feel bad using it and beating things with it, the grip on the handle is second to none, Scandi grind means even a retard can keep this thing razer sharp.

You probably won't have a good time tacking a wild boar with one but I guess that goes for any knife. For 20 bucks the Mora is inexpensive and a fantastic back up or primary knife depending on your needs

What does general purpose even mean to you because your activities might help us give more precise recommendations
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>>1169960
Plastic handle plastic sheath fisher price sheath not full tang. Have fun when that thing breaks under stress like any kind of batoning or in the cold
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Don’t forget to get a top quality ferro rod so you can start a fire in an emergency and keep you’re blade sharp!
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>>1169971
This is my concern.

>>1169966
Just typical outdoor stuff like batoning wood, personal protection, processing killt game, woodworking, cutting rope, and things of that nature
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Stop batoning knives, mongols!
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fKlcBpKbAvM
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>>1169960
There's already a knife thread >>1159805
Go there.
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>>1170001
I’m not convinced on the performance of the plastic handle and sheath in cold weather conditions. I also hate the sheath lol
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>>1169960
>>1169971
>>1169977
Serious response- what the fuck do you expect for $15?

/out/ loves them because you can't find much else that isn't stainless unless it's some $100+ super steel. Anons love owning a knife that requires as much care as a pet hamster.

If you want something more solid, look online for discontinued models or man up and spend $40 on a Gerber or whatever. I found that Kershaw Antelope Hunter or w/e for $17 on eBay a couple years back because it was a discontinued model and that has been solid enough to jam through the skull of dozens of snakeheads. I also got the big CRKT for around $25 because it was an old model.
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>>1169977
i dont go outside - the post
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>>1169971
Mora garbeg is full tang. Not as cheap though.

>>1169977
Wew
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>>1170052
Mora approves batonny chop chop with the Garbeg
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>>1170057
Good for them I guess
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>>1170057
all mora products above $20 are memes for retardo murricans.
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>>1169996
no
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdnUnRhITww
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What does everyone here think about DJ Urbanovsky's Colubris knife? Pic related.
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Ka-bar master race
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OP here. I’m thinking about getting a Bowie knife. One of those seems like it would serve me well. Can I get a good recommendation? Also, should I look at getting one with the “knuckle duster” grip? I doubt I’d actually punch anything with it but that seems like it would help a lot with grip and maybe protect my fingers while batoning.
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how about a real knife?
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>>1170566
Very funny, anon. I don't want any mall ninja shit.
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>>1170475
What is your budget? I would recommend Svord’s Von Tempsky Bowie, but the 6.5” blade is about $150, and the 11” is $190. Pic is 11”.
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>>1170475
Bowie knives are just impractical. Only good for looking like some twee douchebag who has no experience outdoors. Anything you can do with a bowie can be done better and faster with a smaller fixed blade.
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>>1169971
>batoning
Fuck off bushmemer
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>>1170598
Why not have one though? Like anything, if you like it enough, get it.
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>>1169977
Those are far from typical outdoor activities, you need a serious knife. I'd get a KABAR or ESEE 6.
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>>1170738
They're too big for skinning game and too small for using it to hack trees with; also, they take up more room in a pack than they're worth. For the price of an actually decent bowie, and not something made of Chinesium, it's just not worth it. Literally every person I've met that owns a bowie regretted it and ended up getting a good 4" fixed blade.
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>>1170757
Depends on what game, but okay.

I’m sure some people find use for them. That’s all.
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>>1169960

KA-BAR fighter/utility

Literally made for day to day tasks but also for stabby stabby.

Price is good too.
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>>1169960
Just got a Ka-bar, how do I take care of the leather on the handle?

I tried putting some oil on it, but it just got drier and rougher after a while.
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>>1170856

Don't get it soaked. Normal leather polish is fine.

Vaseline works too, but sticky.
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>>1170858
> Don't get it soaked.
Shit, thanks. Guess I'm getting some Vaseline.
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I didn't read any of the above but I'm just going to assume it's wrong.

Moras are good because they're very well-made, use quality steel for the price, don't have any stupid gimmicks (unlike pretty much every other manufacturer on the market), and use the very good scandi grind.

This last bit is important as it gives the knife edge strength and simplicity.

The only downside is they're all partial tang (the bit of the knife that sticks into the handle), although this will almost never matter unless you're using a knife for something it was frankly never meant to do in the first place, like all the survivalist autists you'll find all over YouTube.

Unless you're so stupid you would use a knife to fell a tree, a Mora is more than functional as an outdoorsman's tool. They're not very nice looking, and if that matters very much to you, look elsewhere. The sheaths are also poor, but you can always make your own. $15 for a knife that will literally last a lifetime is impossible to beat.

Pic related is my choice (carbon steel - make sure to treat it . . . Less than $15 shipped on Amazon)
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>>1170829
Way too expensive for what it is
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Got myself a Stretch in hap40 for xmas. Absolutely love it so far, it's a perfect size in between the delica and endura and ergos feel a bit better than both. Best spyderco ive handled yet, should make a perfect lightweight backpacking /camping knife

not my image but same knife
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>>1170942
Looks pretty neat, I just wish spyderkek stopped with that stupid hole.
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>>1170944
Kind of agree. Don't mind the hole for deployment but I'd be fine with a stud or flipper too. The hole just looks a bit retarded
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>>1170260
bump.
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>>1170881
>Scandinavia grind
>Strength
You do know that Scandinavia grinds are very fragile right? Because the edge is so thin. I feel like you're trolling or just don't know what your talking about.

I agree with everything else, it's a good knife for cheap. I owned a HD companion, sold it to a friend because he wanted it. Plan to get another.
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>>1169960
>Knife as self defense against animals

No, just no get out of fantasyland and buy some bear mace or gun
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>>1169960
>>1169977
>>1170475

This entire thread is so horrible I almost think it's bait, don't get a knife based on how 'cool' it looks get something that works

You should absolutely not be batoning wood with your knife that is a surefire way to break it, you absolutely should not be using your knife for personal protection against animals, bear mace is much more effective and a mora will suffice unless you're processing large game
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>>1171126
>I never go outdoors, the post

Batoning wood is a pretty important skill for outings. How else are you supposed to split wood without carrying in a heavy axe? Also bear mace is a meme, I want to kill it not piss it off.

>>1171114
As far as self defense, the knife is just a secondary weapon. I already carry a Mosin-Nagant as my primary.
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>>1171207
>carrying a heavy axe
Batoning will eventually fuck up even the best knives and is slower and more accident-prone than just carrying a small hatchet.
Unless I'm going somewhere I've been a lot before there's usually enough fallen wood around to burn for a couple hours without splitting more, anyway.
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>>1171207
>Killing bears with a knife
Listen I understand, I like to have power fantasies too but let's be realistic here. If you startle a bear and it's in a bad mood, unless you have a gun you're going to get fucked up if you try to fight it

And if you're going to chop wood bring a fucking hatchet you mongrel.
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>>1171223
>mongrel
I don't appreciate terms like these being used on my board.
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>>1171207
>heavy hatchet
>Carries a god damn Mosin

Are you serious? A hatchet, .44 magnum handgun and bear mace put together would weigh less than a mosin. Use the proper tool for the job, knives are only for splitting wood in emergencies.
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>>1171092
Compared to a hollow grind it's way stronger
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>>1171207
LMAO
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>>1171235
being stronger than the weakest grind isn't saying much.
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>>1169971
>Batoning
>With a fucking mora
Retard
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I found knives to be pretty inconvenient and redundant when I camp. I much prefer a small swiss-army knife for food and camp chores and then a small hatchet for everything else. But whatever works for y'all.
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>>1170057
Why pay 50 more dollars for a slightly different Kansbol
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>>1171346
Applause to you for being one of the more reasonable people here in the thread.
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>>1171346
>inconvenient
How so?
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>>1169960
Mora garberg if you don't mind it not having a guard stop. If you have to defend yourself with an enormous knife from an animal you're pretty much fucked. Carve a spear that doubles as a hiking stick. (keeping it at a distance is key). If you live in black bear country that allows firearms I suggest a 357 revolver with bear loads. Anything bigger Than a black bear is a .44 magnum at minimum.
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>>1171345
I know right. I think these autists got the idea from idiots like Nuttinfancy that batoning with a knife is how you're supposed to split wood.
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>>1171230
If he's in Canada he can't legally carry a pistol.
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>>1171114

We kill pigs here with knives. It works.

No dogs.

A knife could save you from a bear or cougar, as long as you know where to stick it. Sure, you'll probably end up wounded because of teeth, but that's better than dead.
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>>1170942

Nice.

I got a Manix 2 LW in S110V (blue scales). The steel is just silly compared to the VG-10, 420HC, and carbon steel I'm used to.

I'm guessing the HAP40 is similar.
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This guy >>1171544 knows what's up. I am American btw so I can carry a pistol, but I prefer my Mosin for its long range capability.
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Condor Tool & Knife 60005 Blasted Satin Blade with Micarta Handle Bushlore Camp Knife and Leather Sheath, 4-5/16-Inch

https://www.amazon.com/Condor-Tool-Knife-60005-Bushlore/dp/B003D9ORT0/ref=sr_1_13?ie=UTF8&qid=1514955294&sr=8-13&keywords=condor+knife

I love mine.
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>>1171558
Nice. I've heard s110V is currently one of the best blade steels out there. Done much with it yet? How does it perform? Also did you get the G10 scales or FRN
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>>1171575
i can smell the poor from here
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>>1171367
They're just awkward. Why bother wasting time batoning when I can just carry a hatchet and do it in a third of the time? Plus a hatchet has way more useful applications; I used mine to dig holes, hammer tent pegs, chop wood, make feather sticks...it can do everything a good knife can, plus more, and generally do it quicker, too. Just because you can baton with a knife doesn't mean you should all the time. Don't get me wrong, a knife is a very useful tool and in a survival situation would be invaluable, I just think a hatchet + small pocket knife for food or whatever is a much more versatile and functional combination.
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>>1171683

Just been playing around with shaving and box cutting with it. Still able to shave dry hairs after a week of slicing up all the cardboard I can find in the kitchen and outside. I'll do some fire making with it soon, though I'm sure it'll do feather sticks fine.

I think it's going to be long stropping sessions with how hard it is.

FRN in that plastic looking blue color. Said color also comes in BD1. I wanted the super duper steel, as BD1 is too similar to my VG-10 knives.
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>>1171346

I find hatchets inconvenient, really. Much more annoying hanging off your belt. The hatchet is better at splitting wood, of course.

I agree that folders are great around the camp. I rather a lightweight larger folder than a SAK, though. Something like an Endura LW can do pretty much everything.
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just got a marttiini as a gift. but what do i use it for? i've never been anywhere and thought "well my victorinox is great, but i need a bigger knife". so what am i supposed to do with it next time i'm out?
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>>1171726
>cardboard
Jfc. Knife collectors...

>>>/k/
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>>1170944

I prefer the hole over a normal thumb stud. Can easily open the knife with every finger. Also if you do the ziptie mod, you can have the blade come out when you draw the knife. Sorry if they don't want to be like every one else and their faggot thumb stud.

Also spyderco hole was designed to be used with thick ass gloves.
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I was watching Fowler from Alone and I modified my leatherman can opener with a file to make it more like a gouge that I could use for spoon carving. I filed it down and gave it a go.

Made a decent spoon out of some mesquite (shit's fucking hard) that was seasoned. All in all I'd consider it a success since it came out ok and I didn't cut myself, took forever with that hard ass wood.

Here's Fowler's vid where I got the tip from.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-sbpSBSORg
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>>1171711
Who said anything about batonning? A mora for example is a great all around and weights nothing. A sak will get all greasy and dirty if you use it to cut your steak or some cheese.
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>>1171854
Any knife will get greasy and dirty if you use it. You then clean it to remove said grease and dirt.

>Who said anything about batonning
literally everyone on this board as soon as someone mentions a knife that isn't an ultra grip full tang carbon steel "made in 'murica" assault weapon.

>>1171727
I can't imagine why anyone would hang a hatchet off their belt.
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>>1171790
>SIDF
Took you a couple days but you finally arrived.
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>>1171857
Except when dirt gets under your sak pin and spring and it starts functioning like a pos. A fixed blade is far superior you don't even have to clean it. A sak is great for edc tho
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>>1171861
I've been using the same SAK for about 8 years now in almost every environment. Never had to oil it or had it stop working in any way. Each to their own; if y'all want to play with your knives that's cool. I jumped on the bandwagon and bought an Ontario somethingsomething knife and just found it to be really annoying, neither here nor there, so I sold it and went back to my €7 hatchet.
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>>1171863
Maybe I'm doing something wrong or my sak's blade is too small but if I cut a cake slice it's 90% sure that my blade will start to drag like a motherfucker if I don't clean it immediately.
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>>1171732

Food prep? That's what 90% of my knives end up doing and the occasional woodsy task, from what I've seen they make decent fillet knives.
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>>1169960
>I know /out/ has a big hard-on for Moras, but could someone tell me why?

Moras are cheep as shit, literally kitchen steak knife tier and the only knife the 12 year olds who populate /out/ can afford on the allowance their mom gives them.
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>>1170048
Me neither. Hurts my eyeballs.
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>>1171937
Someone sounds like a whiney bitch who doesn't /out/.
Mora companion is perfect for processing game and holds the edge well. And the big Scandinavian grind allows for easy sharpening with a simple stone
Its not knives to hold while masturbating and imagining your great outdoors adventure. It's knives for those who do work outdoors.
And if you ever had to take care of a wild boar in dusk, you would love the bright orange. Can't find shit in darkness so the uncool colour actually helps.
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>>1171937
>all that talk
>stock image
what a fucking queer.
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>>1171968
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>>1171980
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Go away, shill.
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>>1171937
>>1171989
>>1171990

Allllllllrighty then, you asked for it shillykins.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-H_I0cD9eg
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>>1171937
>Moras are cheep as shit, literally kitchen steak knife tier and the only knife the 12 year olds who populate /out/ can afford on the allowance their mom gives them.
implying you really buy the cheap ones.
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>>1172013
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>>1172014
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>>1172027
yeah. made for girl hands.
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>>1171937
I use my Mora for opening packaging and cutting tinder. Anything nicer would be a waste.
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>>1171092
>You do know that Scandinavia grinds are very fragile right?
retard
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>>1172052
last time i used mine was to fit a christmas tree into stand.
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>>1172038
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>>1172052
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>>1172020
>>1172027
>>1172078
>>1172079

BRAVO COS or go home.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnlTxLxbaQ8
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>>1171937
>>1171989
>>1171990
>>1172020
>>1172027
>>1172078
>>1172079
artisanal manhood, massdrop, reddit, bugman, etc.
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>>1172086
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>>1172088
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>>1172079
>>1172092
>>1172094
bring dem back to kitchen m8
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>>1172107
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Can /out/ recommend me a good neck knife?
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>>1172208
any knife really should do the trick
necks are pretty soft
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>>1172236
this! you can neck yourself with a sarpened spoon
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>>1172208
Why not just carry it on your belt or in your pocket?
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>>1172309
Cuz l don't wanna
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>>1172208
esee izula
becker eskabar
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>>1172208
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The best knives grow in the scree at high elevations. I harvested a decent 3 inch folding knife from a mountain in the Oregon Cascades one year. It's the only one I've seen but where there's one there must be more.
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Better to carry a 4-5" knife over a big fuck off bowie type?
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>>1169971
>>>1169977
>>1169971
>>1171126
Okay just my two cents worth....mora will not steer you wrong. You can seriously bouy this along with whatever knife you are eyeing as it is inexpensive. I garuantee you will like it and feel shameful about how you would rather take you mora out than your condor bushlore.

I also baton with wood reguardless of how bad it is for your knife because batoning is much quicker than everything else in camping for myself at least. Heck ive even batoned with avispa folding knife (pictured)
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>>1172422
high carbon or stainless?
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>>1172422
nice to see an anon that batons with a passion and not even expensive meme sword imitations.
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>>1172429
stainless if you are anywhere near sea if you are in a dry area you can fuck around with common steel if you use it heavily it has somewhat better edge retention and sharpening properties but less sanitary imo (got to keep it oiled).

if you got a knife for occasional use and rarely use it just go stainless they are pretty good don't let yourself get memed by civil war era larpers.
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>>1172431
Thanks man
Yea I heard carbon steel requires more ritualistic maintenance, and the likes, especially if it's not used often. Stainless mora it is
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>>>1172431
>>1172429
Definately as this anon said. I have a carbon steel knife and i find that if i leave it in sheath for a long time i have tohit it witha snadpaper sponge to wipe off and i live in bay area so yea salt water.
>>1172430
Thanks :-D
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>>1171223
El goblino...
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>>1172436
fuck rust
I guess it goes for high humidity areas too, the air rusts shit.
I live close to multiple beaches too so guess stainless is better...
Stainless is more expensive in my country too for some reason
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>>1172435
>carbon steel
every steel is carbon steel in fact most knives are made of high carbon steel whether stainless or not.
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>>1172442
I know...it's just how they classify it in my country 'High Carbon Steel' and 'Stainless Steel'
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>>1172053
They are the second weakest grind, educate yourself. Any experience, non ignorant outdoorsman can tell you that.
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>>1172541
scandinavian grind is also known as sabre grind. you ant to tell me a grind originally developed for arms is weak? it's pretty much the standard grind and there is a singly grind that is stronger than it and that's the convex which is usually used on axes not knives. educate _yourself_ you piece of turd!
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>>1172548
also since the convex grind actually cuts worse than the sabre or scandi that makes the sabre grind the best compromise between blade and edge strength and cutting ability. it's literally the fucking gold standard.
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Used picture related a little bit last summer trimming trees for a camp site. The slash and pull action works pretty good. Dunno how good this brand is tho.

Thots?
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>>1172548
>>1172551
Where did you learn English and how to spell. If you're so butt hurt that it affects your ability to type coherently, you need to take a break from the computer man child. Yes it is weak, it rolls and chips very easily compared to other grinds.

It doesn't matter that it was designed for military use with swords, it's still weak. Do you think sword use is like it is in the movies where they just Basu the edges together? Pro tip, just because something is designed for "use by arms" doesn't mean that it is the strongest or the best.

>Educate yourself you piece of turd
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>>1172561
>Where did you learn English and how to spell.
i didn't lol i just read a lot.
>it rolls and chips very easily compared to other grinds.
impossible with the same edge angle as the grind you compare it to scandi will actually be the strongest.
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>>1172561
>Do you think sword use is like it is in the movies where they just Basu the edges together? Pro tip, just because something is designed for "use by arms" doesn't mean that it is the strongest or the best.
you imbecile it has to cut through armor and it has to cut deep. you bash the edges together a lot in fencing there is no helping it just not the razor sharp part preferably.
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>>1172559
looks like a variant on woodsmans pal.
these are for clearing underbrush.
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>>1172559
meme shit
it probably works good enough but its still meme shit that cost too much
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>>1169960
Its a wood knife, its for carving woods and small tasks. I can manage with one with no problem, because I dont baton shit like a retard and I dont like to play commando in the park like most bushcucks. A small hatchet is good for processing large fire wood, but I use a small firebox that works with twigs. All the fancy tools in the world wont make you any smarter, just look at wranglerstar; hes completely retarded and has 1000$ axes and knives but he still uses a chainsaw and cant use and axe for shit.

After you are good enough with moras, upgrade to a blade blank from helle or something and make a handle and sheath yourself. heirloom knife and you have the skills to make tool handles and such.
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>>1172566
Being the stronger of two grinds isn't much of an improvement for your argument.

>>1172567
Pro tip #2 you don't use swords to cleave through armor. They can't unless it's very weak armor, like leather, or cloth, which isn't. That's why picks and heavy poundage bows/crossbows were made, to pierce armor. And in fencing, actual fencing as in the sport, you use a foil which is a rounded flexible bar, it has no edges to bash together. If you meant fencing as a term for defensive use of real swords, many techniques are used to avoid this, like using the flat or spine of the blade, or simply moving out of the way if possible.

I feel like you are just arguing to argue without bringing any real substance to the discussion.
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>>1172438
Youre supposed to oil the steel. A coating of fat or butter will protect it from moisture.
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>>1172602
>They can't
are you retarded? hardened steel armor was pretty late introduction. the mild steel they used for most of the centuries and especially chain was perfectly cutable with a good blade especially with a heavy sabre from horseback. in fact there are historical records of the softer cross-guards being cleaved through if the dude fucked up.

>ike using the flat or spine of the blade
there is nothing wrong with that, but still edge to edge happened often enough and the swords could take it just fine. on most swords only the last few inches were brought to full sharpness. near the hilt it was more dull and robust and this edge was used to parry routinely and usually the sharp part of the other sword met it. and it was pretty fine.
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What's a good (~$200) puukko?
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>>1172601
> wranglerstar
He's not /out/, he's HOMESTEADING.
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>>1169960
As a Fisher: the molded plastic grip is great for processing fish because it's very easy to clean and there is no gap for gunk to fit in!
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>>1172717
>the mild steel they used for most of the centuries and especially chain was perfectly cutable with a good blade especially with a heavy sabre from horseback.

No, the whole point of armor is to _prevent_ penetration and chainmail is very effective at protecting against slashing/cutting attacks.
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>>1172893
*rot in, not fit in
Also very easy to sharpen and you don't give a fuck if you loose one.
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>>1172827
>he's HOMESTEADING
No he isn't, he's SHILLING-
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>>1172899
slashing yes not so much for cleaving or stabbing
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I have had pic related 6 months now. I don't even carry a fixed blade anymore. I really cannot rate it highly enough as an EDC and an outdoors knife. It is a little pointy for skinning game but if you allow for that it works well. Super easy to keep sharp with an arkansas stone and no issues with the edge rolling.
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>>1172586
So you know the price?
Have you used the Woodsman's Pal?

Nm, just keep talking out your ass.
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what do we think, something a bit different to your average campers knife
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>>1173016
Ever cut anything else with your mora than potatoes ? mine fell 30 cm on a piece of hard bork, directly on the edge. It rolled on that part. Because the Scandi Grind is very good, but fragile, nothing for hard use if it isn't a very strong, thick and hard steel, and even then its very likely to roll or break on the edge
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>>1173112

Very short tang like 1 inch and handle scales crack.

You are looking for full tang and a scandi grind.

T. Muela owner.
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>>1173144
Can't really find many smaller muelas full tang. Found this Boker though on clearance sale, full tang
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>>1173145
>Hollow grind
Get a mora
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>>1172418

Most will say that yes, it is better to carry a small over a big knife for obvious reasons (e.g. easier to cut smaller things, which is what you'll most likely end up cutting most of the time depending on your location). Personally, if you like big knives, then I say go for it. You will get creative, and find use for it. Just know that their will be more weight to carry, depending on the knife.
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>>1172208
I get very annoyed by Mora-posters, and spending more money, with consideration, will get you a far better knife.
That being said, a Mora classic 2 comes with a little plastic sheath which hangs perfectly at the neck, and weighs next to nothing. Suits that particular purpose well
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>>1172602
>>1172717
>>1172899
>>1173016
/his/ is leaking
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How can manufacturers justify a $150 pricetag on a skeletonized knives like pic related?
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>>1173370
Because the Benchmade SOCP set up a new trend and some dumb fucks will overpay for small knives that cost 3 bucks to mass produce. That profit margin is a dream.

I ordered a Pohl Prepper One from China, seems decent enough. 50% off could not let is pass lol.
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ESEE-6, Benchmade Saddle Mountain, or Fallkniven S1z?

I want a general purpose survival and hunting knife, more looking for a hunting knife since I have a hatchet for anything heavy duty.
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>>1173370
Why would you get this over an Eickhorn GEK EDC? They didn't even bother to add anything to that pice of metal.
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>>1173083
Literally impossible to keep it scandi ground without removing the thumb stud
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>>1173462
ESSE-6, by far.
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>>1173449
I know, it's a water jet cut piece of steel with a bit of machining and a final edge added, I would love to know the margins in such product.

>>1173469
I will not buy either, I was just asking.
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>>1173498

No its not... I only ever field sharpen with pocket stones or jewel sticks and all my knives have scandi grinds.
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Does anybody have any experience with these things? Are they worth it?
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>>1173598
Nah, I was using the general "you". As in "Why would one XXXXXXX".
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>>1173616
The clamp is metal on metal, doesn't hold well, and scratches your blade. The latter is subjective, but I thought that was kind of shitty.

It's pretty cumbersome to use, I found. Had a go on someone else's. I'd rather get whetstones.

For touch ups, their rod boxes work good.
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>>1173638
cheers mate
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>>1169960
I've carried a 7" Old Hickory for years. Full tang and sturdy but they do rust easily.
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>>1173016
> slashing yes not so much for cleaving

Cleaving is just another word for slashing/cutting and most of the damage to the opponent was thru blunt force and not cutting thru the armor.

> or stabbing

Chainmail is also excellent protection against stabbing attacks. Sure, you might break a couple of links but you're not getting deep enough to actually wound, (beyond bruising) unless the opponent is flat on his back and can't stop a full-force stab with a sword.

You’ve seen too many Hollywood flicks, where characters slash and stab (or shoot arrows) thru any and all armor like it was tissue paper but the reality is that humans wouldn’t have put so much time, effort and resources into making armor if it was of such little value.
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>>1170944
Yea they need to make one smaller for you to fit dick in.
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looking for a good EDC knife. so far i made out the esee zancudo and the spyderco tenacious. both are asia fabricated though, which i would like to avoid

do you guys have recommendations in the 100$ range?
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>>1173881
Benchmade Bugout
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>>1173679
>Cleaving is just another word for slashing/cutting
no it's not the same mechanical movement. slashing and cutting is what you do with flesh cleaving is what you do with bone and cartilage the hard stuff.
>Chainmail is also excellent protection against stabbing attacks.
not really no, it's the weakest against stabbing, but sure a kitchen knife will not do the trick. the chain was not a bad armor, but swords and daggers got through often enough.
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>>1173679
>but the reality is that humans wouldn’t have put so much time, effort and resources into making armor if it was of such little value.
you don't know shit about the armor and melee combat but that's okay i'm no expert either i just talked to a lot of guys who made it their life's calling researching this shit.
from what they told me chain in itself wasn't worth shit the most important of chain armor often completely forgotten in movies was the padding. if you lay out chain on a wooden trunk you can cut or stab through it with just about any weapon. but if something under it gives the whole weight of the chain pulled up takes the energy out of the strike. which is the reason why chains offer significant protection against blunt trauma if worn properly. got a spear shaft in your ribs wearing chains? no worries you probably gonna take it swinging.
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>>1173112

Fine.

Muela are underrated, really. Stronger than most Mora's, and a lot more choices of blade shapes. I like their short bowies with plastic handles for /out/.
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>>1173881

Spyderco Delica 4 FFG in whatever color you like. Nippon made, but that's a lot different than Chink made.

It's the perfect size, really. Grip is big enough for big hands. Blade is a good size for EDC. VG-10 is great steel. It's light as hell.
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The OKC3S Marine Bayonet is clearly the best choice for going /out/. Obviously I'm joking though.

>>1171937
>>1171989
>>1171990
This guy has the right idea, although I prefer G-10 handles and CPM 3V steel.
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>>1174063
my brother has one the only thing i liked about it was the balance. the blade quality is also very good i dislike the looks a lot tho.
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Someone convince me not to get the SOG Pillar. Its only 130 bucks with my prodeal.
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>>1172929
Your mean his wife do all dirty shit?
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>>1173112
I don't know anything about the quality of that knife but goddamn it looks good
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>>1174589
the blade looks okay if you are into that sort of thing but the handle looks like a vinile pile of turd scooped into shape in china garbage town.
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>>1174465
the esee 4, 5 (i dont like saber grinds but apparently you do) and 6 would all be much better choices based on the warranty alone. You can call the izula a maymay all you want esees warranty is no fucking joke, and you would have to try HARD to break one. I can stand on my izzy stuck in something and it half the width of the 4/6. The five is hella thick
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>>1174465
i only have an izula I&II but my dad has most the lineup and swears by them all just like me
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Why is my dick dripping so much I think I might have a disease
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>>1174966
Sorry thought this was Facebook
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>>1173144

They're full tang. Just like a KA-BAR, or traditional bowie/hunting knife.
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>>1173881
I mean, I have an axis lock chinktanium ganzo knife. Why are replicas bad, isn't it just sharpened metal,That you'll use for cutting rope and cardboard?
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>>1173370
It is quite expensive to produce this in the west.
To mill a powder steel is hell for the cutter and a cutter is very expensive. It is very complicated to harden powder steel. The guy standing at the CNC mill is also pretty expensive in comparison to a chinese slave.
The taxes the company has to pay are high just as the living cost of the boss and his employees.
The "production cost is $3" meme has to die
They are still overpriced though.
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>>1172208

BK14, but wear it on your hip; they all suck barring the smallest SAK/folder when on a necklace.
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>>1171207
So there's literally nothing in-between a knife and a heavy axe?

How about a small hatchet, you fucktard?

But I guess you're overloaded carrying that fucking mosin around, lol.
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>new knifefu

what is the first thing you do with a new blade ... !
https://youtu.be/TkwDZk1thOw
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>>1170944
THATS FIRST KIND OF KOOL SHEEPDAWGS
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>>1170942
Have had one of these for 6 months or so and it is kick ass.

I like HAP40 a lot better than I expected, I can get it wicked sharp and it holds that for a good long time.
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>>1175575
make a featherstick
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>>1171558
HAP40 is not at all stain resistant, hence why Spyderco clads it with a stainless.

Compared to my S110V knives I can get HAP40 sharper and it holds its edge about as long, but it chips a little easier on hard stuff. Small chips, but still chips.
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>>1175575
I jerk off on it.
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>>1173142
i hit stone with my mora while batojing through some logs no damage visible just some scratches on the blade.
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If you retards seriously can’t fuckin YouTube search Morakniv torture test videos and see how durable they are before you ask randos what they think or buy a larping knife then you don’t have the common sense to go /out/.
This thread is 50% of every thread on here ffs.
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>>1173142
>its very likely to roll or break on the edge
if you knife rolls an edge that means you fucked up the angle for whatever the fuck you are doing.

grind type has little to do with edge strength blade hardness and angle of the bevel (usually a micro bevel on most knives) is what's important. scandi with a wide angle is almost indestructible.
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>>1175706
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Any opinions on Gerber knives? picked up a relatively cheap $25~ knife for some basic hikes and camping use. Hasn't seen any extreme wear and tear but it's held up really well for what i've had to use it for.

bout a 3 inch blade or so, no serrations, full tang, and it has what i assume to be a lanyard/cord strap at the back of the handle. decent belt loop on the otherwise unremarkable sheath too
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>>1176006
They’re fine. People here will shit on them because they’re mainstream and not $200, but they’re fine for the money. Better than some gas station folder.
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>>1169960
>big enough to be used as a secondary self-defense weapon again any wild animals
Carry pepper spray, you timid little nancy boy.
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>>1169960

Literally just bought a Mora. Very very impressed with it for the price.
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>>1176028
>People here will shit on them because
they are made from crap chink mystery "steel" in crap chink factories by god knows what method by crap chink workers that don't give a fuck and work for a bowl of rice and still the meme products sell at a huge premium compared to that quality. same knives for third the price might actually be okay.
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>>1176244
the handles on these knives look so incredibly cheap.

reminds me of a paring knife i'd find in the back of a kitchen drawer at a yardsale
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>>1176295
they look incredibly cheap because they are cheap, the difference between a mora and any other cheap fixed blade knife is that the mora is made of good steel
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>>1174209
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>>1176244
>just bought it
>looks pristine

I doubt you’ve taken taken it on an outdoors trip yet. You probably haven’t even used it for anything except for maybe cutting cardboard in your basement. How are you impressed with it?
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>>1176091
>carries pepper spray
>calls someone else a nancy
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>>1176429
you can feel how good they are by holding them in your hand. i was surprised how big and sturdy the companon is pictures tend to make it look like its a small knife. its not.
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>>1176488
Pssst anon I know what you are getting at, but you cannot tell how good a knife is a being a knife just by holding it. I'm just telling you this because the other anon you are replying to is probably gonna bully you for making such a bad point.
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>>1176522
of course you can if you know knives.
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>>1176244

They're definitely a solid knife for the price; fit and finish is as good as anything else mass produced out there.
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TBS grizzly in black micarta

Gud/10
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>>1176719
Scale compared to Mora
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>>1169960
Morakniv? What are you, a cuck? Real knives have wooden handles.
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What's the best way to sharpen knives? I'm fucking awful at it and have only used a blademedic or similar shit
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Knives are for edgelords who feel powerless, just buy a swiss army knife.
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>>1176488
>Hey mom check out my new knife it’s so good! Look how big and sturdy it is! I can even cut paper with it!
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>>1177005
haven't seen a knife with a wooden handle since i was a little kid to be honest.
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What's the opinion on the CDS-survival MOVA-58 knife?

looking for a knife and had this recommended to me.
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>>1177007
Ferro rod

>>1177035
Yup. And people who need to cut stuff.
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>>1177035
>bin that knife
fuck off, bong.
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>>1171850
Looks nice, I want to try and modify my leatherman since it shipped with three (3) screwdrivers but I don't know what I would put on the inside handle that would leave room for the pliers when I close it.

Any of you guys got one of these? It's expensive as all fuck but the chain drive is pretty cool. I have a leatherman I carry for everyday cutting, opening and handyman work, but the chain is calling to me.
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>>1177337
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>>1177340
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>>1177341
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>>1177343
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Picked up a mossy oak 12 inch bowie on a whim, turns out to be unintentionally one of the best knife purchases I've made. It's easy as hell to sharpen because of its size, and it's currently sharp enough to shave with. 20 bucks, too.
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Am I really the only one?
Allow me to introduce you all to the most utility you can get in a simple knife then.
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>>1177344
I really like that blade shape.
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>>1177349
Those are shilled pretty hard on amazon. Nice to see they’re decent
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>>1177389
Hey, for the price I paid for it, it's definitely going to get the job done. The handle fits pretty well in my hands, and I've got bigger hands than most.
It's not going to look the best, and has some visual imperfections on the handle and brass details, but none of those affect how it's going to work. Also a really decent weight. The only thing I actually don't like is that the sheath is too thin for my liking, and if I tried to force it in the wrong way, it'd just cut right through it with no effort, so I'm just gonna craft one for it soon.
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>>1177343
>>1177341
>>1177340
>drop it in the brush/leaves
>never find it
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what do you lads think of the benchmade triage? i'm looking for an EDC knife with rescue and it looks ok - good blade, good brand i like the shape, and it has a seatbelt cutter and glassbreaker
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>>1177426
it looks okay, but frankly what knife point can't break glass or what knife blade can't cut seatbelt?
this whole cutting yourself meme is weird if your seatbelt is stuck just cut it where it's not touching your body like at the fastening slot.
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>>1176719
>>1176720
Noice. Heres my bushlore with micarta scales also.
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>>1177035
This is /out/ not /k/ you can't use just a Swiss army knife for fire Making , heavy cutting ect

>Fell for the bait
>>1177444
Looks like a comfy knife anon , how good is it for batonny chop chop ?
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>USA made BG Folder
>$14.99
Yee boi gas station on point!
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>>1177503
>>USA made BG Folder
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>>1177207
Genuine question, why do you EDC such a large knife?
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>>1177455

t.armchair camper
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>>1177541
T. make your own chair comfy camper
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>>1177512
Check out the sweet Boker and the Freemason Buck!

>>1177537
I do what I want.
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>>1177710
>$14.99!
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>>1177207
>Newport menthols

Are you black?
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>>1177790
>>>/pol/
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>>1177411

That would be sad. IT'S SO PRETTY THO.
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>>1177537

He thinks that's a large knife!
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>>1169960
I find the northwoods michigan Jack sexy as fuck but it's sold out and really expensive for what it is.
Is there a product with identical features? (Slipjoint, sheepsfoot, finger groove)

Pic related is the closest I could find
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>>1169960
two new euroblades
>very best
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>>1177821
>>>/reddit/
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Second time /out/ with the Condor HD kukri. Definitely loving it. Really pulled it's weight this time as I was allowed to make a fire.

Would pair it with a small scandi grind knife like the brusletto Balder or a Swiss army knife next time. Feathersticks can be done, but they are not pretty!
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>>1170598
>t. small hands
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>>1179068
>>>www.williams-sonoma.com
>free fast shipping on orders over $49 with code SHIP4FREE
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I have a small 150 and 400 grit stone can i get a mora or hultafors really sharp with the 400 grit or do i need a higher grit for shaving sharp?
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>>1179228
Man. The blade profile is sexy as fuck.
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>>1179228
>t.gringe
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>>1170475
Becker bk7 or 9
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>>1171367
when you oversize a knife you do two things: impact the edge geometry and reduce its slicing ability, and, you lessen its ability to handle delicate or precision tasks.

hatchet + little knife is the way to go IMO. My combo atm gb hatchet + mora 1 + leatherman juice.
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>>1171861
>you don't even have to clean it

tell that to the millions who use a carbon steel blade.
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>>1171937
as someone who owns both a brk and a mora... stfu
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>>1180559
i do like it too
>>1180578
what?
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>>1179228
I have been rather attracted by that chop chop since you first posted about it but I'm trying hard to not be a consumerist fuck since I really have no purpose for that kind of knife at the moment. If I had some land maybe I could justify it tho.
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>>1177444
I like how it says el salvador on it, because it definitely looks like something some jungle nigger from there would carry.
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>>1177362
Looks like it was made by fucking Fisher-Price
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>>1179228
>unironically using a kukri

When will this meme die?
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>>1181049
Speaking of Fisher Price, I was at Bass Pro yesterday and there were tons of these replaceable blade knives.

Why??? Even the little pocket sharpener seems so much better.
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>>1181052
Its for skinning. They are great for it in the field. I own one.
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>>1181053
Why so much better than getting a regular knife with decent steel and learning how to keep it sharp? Are they razor blade sharp or somethin?

Also have you tried to baton yet?
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>>1181057
Hahaha no batoning.
I personally like them because I get to chose when I sharpen or buy more blades. I go through about 2 per hid when im skinning. I sharpen mine personaly, but during the moment it sucks to have to stop and sharpen. Also it is easier to clean one knife with several blades than multiple knifes or sharpeners. I have skinned 4 deer with that exact knife with the original blades.
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>>1181057
And yes when you first buy them they are sharp as scalpals
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>>1170791
Look, if you really want a macho man rambo knife, go for it. It's your choice. Just know that you're paying for it with a)unjustified amount of money b)comfort c)efficiency
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>>1180673
It's good fun for an overnighter. dat thiccness definitely gives it heft but It needs a good sharpening to bite more I think
>>1181051
No fun allowed: the post
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>>1170475
Knuckle dusters break fingers
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>>1170475
thread has reached maximum autism
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>>1173705
kek
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Kizlyar Korshun for all around great knife.
If you're dead set on a Bowie get the DV-2, but Bowies are very impractical.
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>>1179228
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>>1181275
Ha!
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>>1181275
>t. Bong
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>>1181052

Havalon Piranta is incredible. Probobly the most popular and useful knife for extremely serious hunters. I love mine.

You'll be hard pressed to find backpack hunters that do not use one.
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>>1179228
cringe
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>>1181337
Extremely serious backpack hunters.....Lol.

Only people I know who buy over priced hunting gear are the weekend casuals that show up from the city opening day.
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Svord drop point hunter.

Cheers for the beers.
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>>1182064
I love that type of grind but damn does it look uneven.
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>>1176295
it is cheap, they're meant to be.
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>>1177035
I'll remember to give you a shout if ever I need a tin of beans opening neatly.
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>>1177503
>poorly stamped
>poorly made grip
>poor paint work
Yeah, they're Chinese fakes.
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>>1177710
>>1177712
God you're dumb, these are $1 Chinese copies, look at the quality of them, you sucker.
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>>1182079
>>1182080
made in usa ..
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>>1181905

How is a piranta overpriced?
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>The Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA) last week announced a crackdown on “centrifugal opening knives.” Anyone traveling into Canada should leave their flick, stud, disc, or flipper-activated folders at home.
https://gearjunkie.com/canada-knife-law-prohibited-folding-weapons

>Canada
>Yes
A fucking leaf
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>>1182079
>>1182080
No way man! Bear Grylls, the greatest American survivalist, would never allow his knives to be crafted by slants.
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>>1177411
>taking your knives outside
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>>1182276

That's fucking gay.

No biggie, we'll just invade them for the oil later.
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>>1182068

Yeah I ground a new edge onto it as soon as I got it. Fucken sick knife though.

Keep it shaving sharp with a strop and is my go to for all hunting/camping uses. Pick related.
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anyone else take one of these /out/??
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>>1182276
>Kershaw Skyline
Looks like a nice knife

Canada up to its gay ways, as usual
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>>1171457
>>1171345
>>1171126
You guys do know that basically every single modern knife with the word bushcraft in it name or description is designed for batoning right? like seriously, even a mora companion is literally designed to be used for batoning. And I would easily take a Mora Garberg over and Esee 6, or any other knife under 200.
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Does anyone here own a Gerber Strongarm?
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>>1182100
Dude its like 30 dollars. I could buy 2 moras for that price.
And with a mora I can go buttfuck my boyfriend while we salivate on their versatility!
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>>1174209
It's okay Gunny, we know you're serious and that you EDC one.
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>>1182659
No but I've heard nothing but good things about it
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>>1182790
Not the finest grind lines and I'm not finished sanding it yet but it holds a good edge, just got to remember to oil I constantly because it's Spring steel and develops rust flecks if you look at it wrong.
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best knife chanel - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1hEm1y_BQg
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>>1182064
>>1182394
Nice steak knife
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>>1182942
>(you)
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>>1182800
that jap truly is comfy to watch.
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>>1182769
Ya from what I've gathered from yt reviews is that the only real complaints are the coating rubbing off, and the clip for the sheath wearing down. I've got some ideas how to fix the clip, and the coating wearing off is a plus for me. I like a knife with character.

For $43 I had to cop it so I'll throw up a review when it arrives.
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Unironically this...
>High Carbon Steel
>$20
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>>1183344

Have one of these. Fucken sick knife.
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the eldis has twice the juicy tang of the average more, arguably a sturdier design than the bushcraft
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>>1171207

>heavy axe
>Mosin-Nagant

Vasily, why for are you not using glorious bolt action log blast to split wood?

1) Extend bayonet
2) Stab log
3) Fire

Then, you have log split. And on fire. Exactly what you looking for!




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