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What would you change?
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>>1172687
>was probably made by a Californian that only hikes on marked trails
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>>1172687

There is simply no fucking way that Texas is .5 points ahead of fucking Connecticut, and it's equally impossible that big, open, low population density Western states like Nebraska and Kansas are a zero. Even Manhattan wouldn't be a fucking zero because it's got a bigass park int he middle. Kowloon Walled City is probably the only place in history that could've scored a zero and it is literally a park now.

This image was made by someone with a fixation on memes and epic trolololing, and it needs to stop getting circulated immediately.
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>>1172687
Arizona, Oregon, Washington I'd change to a 8 and Utah a 10. Then change Comifornia to 6.
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Half the map, it's clearly made by someone who has only been to two states in their lifetime.
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>>1172687
California is a 10/10 compared to all other backwards shitholes.
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>>1172706
>Then change Comifornia to 6
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>>1172687
I think Washington deserves a better score

they have a lot of water a lot of woods and a lot of mountains
also the difficulty goes up to at least a medium level for all activity due to the fact that the weather is just as bi-polar as the residents
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>>1172711
A faggot
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>>1172687
Appalachians && eastern only 3-5
clearly made by some fatass who never leaves the basement
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>>1172706
The Commiefornians are almost all concentrated in a couple of metro areas. Most of the Eastern and Northern parts of the state are an /out/ paradise
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hurrdurr dont include Canada thread
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>>1172693
top kek, wears lululemon for men and patagonia vest
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I'm assuming that I can't see DC and their 8/10 because it's just too small for the map.
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>>1172724
>>1172693
Hick's butthurt towards Californians truly is beautiful, doesn't matter how much you dislike its politics it's the greatest /out/ state of the lower 48. But I guess that's too difficult to understand for you people since both of your parents are blood related and retardation must be strong with most of you.
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>>1172741
how could anyone figure California to be the most /out/ state?
unless /out/ is all fudge packing homosexuals that like to walk on trails and make small talk with other fudge packing homosexuals and somehow think they are better than other people
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>>1172687
+2 points for everything in the Rockies and west, +6 points for Alaska
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>>1172741
why are Californians always so defensive and offended?
and for some reason after this they always bring up money.
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>>1172742
>muh homos
quite obsessed desu

also
>huge pacific coast
>mountains
>great weather
>diverse
>redwood forest
>huge state
should I keep going?

>but y'all faggots and muh uh other things uh arg argfa
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>>1172747
because fuck you and your flyover state, that's why.
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>>1172752
that definitely aint enough to ever say its the best /out/ state and literally mean it
there is going to be many negatives that you are trying hard to ignore
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>this fucking map

I want to comment but I don't even know where to begin.
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>>1172758
this

and this. fpbp
>>1172693
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>>1172755
>
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>>1172757
>many negatives
/pol/ memes aren't negatives when talking about how /out/ a state is
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>>1172758
>I don't even know where to begin.
Here I'll start for you
>WAHHH MY STATE ISN'T A 10 THIS ISN'T FAIR!!!
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>Michigan
>4

At least we know the map is bait.
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>>1172757
>there is going to be many negatives that you are trying hard to ignore
those things have nothing to do with /out/, it's just you fucks that can't keep politics out.

>b-but muh forest fires
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>>1172766
True, considering Wyoming is only 7 Michigan should be 1.5-2. Map was probably made by a butthurt Easterner or Midwesterner who thinks his home region is anywhere close to as /out/ as the Rockies.
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>>1172687
>texas
>1.5
what the fuck
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>>1172687

>Indiana
>Ohio
>Illinois
>1

I've never been /out/ in Ohio, but Indiana and Illinois are great if you know where to go. Definitely deserve at least a 3 for us Hoosiers and a 4 for Illinois, even if the selection is limited it's not like we have nothing.

Hell hunting is great at the very least.
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>>1172769
its more than politics.
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>>1172774
Will you post an example then so I can ridicule your argument and embarrass you?
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>>1172770
Here's your (you), cunt.
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>>1172769
>>1172764
>>1172752
>>1172741
>this is probably what California posters look like
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>>1172777
the amount of land covered in concrete
fees taxes and regulations. someone recently posted about their California fishing license
marijuana growers
meth labs
too many other people

the part next to Nevada is going to be environment close to Nevada but still under Californian control

anywhere within 30 miles of the coast is going to be too overpopulated

I guess I could come up with a few other things
you ever rode a snowmobile?
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>>1172781
>implying I'm wrong
Michigan doesn't even have mountains, that pretty much consigns it to a max score of 2 or 3 at best. Add on to that the fact that the whole state is covered in roads and towns and you're not looking at a very good score.
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>>1172777
too dry

just look at it on google earth
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>>1172794
Michigan is /out/ as fuck
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>Utah
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>>1172797
Why?
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>>1172793
>the amount of land covered in concrete
Almost none, concentrated to tiny areas
>fees taxes and regulations. someone recently posted about their California fishing license
Which fees, taxes, and regulations?
>marijuana growers
Concentrated to small areas, not unique to CA
>meth labs
Not located in outdoor areas, just central valley
>too many other people
California has some of the most sparsely populated counties in the US
>the part next to Nevada is going to be environment close to Nevada but still under Californian control
What point are you trying to make?
>anywhere within 30 miles of the coast is going to be too overpopulated
Almost nobody lives on the coast north of Sonoma county all the way to Coos Bay OR

>I guess I could come up with a few other things
>you ever rode a snowmobile?
Yes, I've gone backcountry snowmobiling all over CA, it's pretty fun. You?
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>>1172783
>>1172774
>>1172763
>samefagging this hard
go fuck your sheep, billy bob

>>1172793
>the amount of land covered in concrete
>it's better not to have infrastructure

>fees taxes and regulations. someone recently posted about their California fishing license
>being poor

>marijuana growers
>meth labs
live and let live also /pol/

>too many other people
In the major cities, for the most part

>the part next to Nevada is going to be environment close to Nevada but still under Californian control
/pol/

>anywhere within 30 miles of the coast is going to be too overpopulated
/pol/

>you ever rode a snowmobile?
wat, how does that matter, I didn't know that riding a sled was the greatest /out/ thing you could do but I'm afraid you live in a frozen shithole hence why you mentioned that. All in all pretty poor points, as expected.
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>>1172706
Almost with you until California. Sure the state parks are crowded and you have to deal with Californians but there's still some damned good wilderness. It's a big state.
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>>1172705
Nebraska and Kansas are 0 because there's nothing there. Those states entirely consist of flat grassy fields, corn, and pretty much nothing else. No woods, no hills, no trails, it's just fucking desolate. Nobody wants to hike in a corn field
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>>1172802
I have 34 of these memes
muh name aint billy bob its teryl and I have cows not sheeps
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>>1172687
>Arizona only 6.5
>Utah not a 9
>Alaska not a 10
Every time.
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>>1172810
the grass lands are the best
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>>1172769
>those things have nothing to do with /out/, it's just you fucks that can't keep politics out.

To be completely fair, politics does enter into this to a degree. For example, the more tolerant attitude of certain states towards illegal immigration and recreational marijuana means that you are far more likely to stumble across an illegal grow in some states over others. It doesn't even have to be one of the hot button political issues of today. Take Indiana for example, our laws are so restricted when it comes to hunting deer with a rifle that I only hunt with a shotgun.
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>>1172742
You clearly haven't been to California. As others have already said, the typical californians stay in the cities and the rest of the state (which is actually surprisingly empty) is the most beautiful thing I've ever seen, and I live in Wyoming so the bar is set pretty high for me
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>>1172742
Where are you from?
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>>1172770
You from Wyoming too?
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>>1172825
Montana but I've spent a lot of time there, the Winds are probably my favorite place on earth
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>>1172823
well I normally stay in your moms puss
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>>1172802
>wat, how does that matter, I didn't know that riding a sled was the greatest /out/ thing you could do but I'm afraid you live in a frozen shithole hence why you mentioned that.

So... no?

>my state is the best /out/ state so long as you only want to do things that my state is best at, nothing else is relevant

Nice. Tell me, how's the moose hunting in Cali?
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>>1172822
California is not that good
theres the national parks the mountains and hills and the desert but life is average more shit it California and not /out/ very often
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>>1172838
Anon you're being an idiot, and I hate Californians. The state has some damned good /out/ territory, let it go.
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>tfw living on 50+ acres of Canadian land

tell my again about how good your hiking trails are
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>>1172838
>he has never went to the moon
does your state even /out/?

>>1172846
yeah but we're talking about a real country here.
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>>1172845
don't let it go
you cant let those damn Commiefornians control your life control your thoughts
it may not seem like anything more than Californians being the normal assholes they are but this is how it starts. you let it go on 4chan and pretty soon one of those filthy fuckers is telling you how to live your life and the rules say you have to do what it says
don't let it go
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i think these maps to be to categorized.

if someone likes fishing then then places that get frozen over arent going to be as great as sunny gulf states. so that 8 for montana is going to suck most months of the year.

and yea yea, ice fishing. if people enjoyed freezing winds they wouldnt make little cucksheds.
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>>1172858
how2country: hiking trails, fake news, obesity epidemic, give them more meds & tell them they are free
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Too many atheists in California
would not recommend
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>>1172863
I'm 99% sure this is a joke. Just as well, I'd like to point out that enjoying a geographical location is politically neutral and in fact has nothing to do with Californians themselves.
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>>1172863
>spends 11 months of the year talking shit about california/ns
>he's afraid/wishes to be them
Never change flyover retards, never change.
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SO, compared to Europe, and mostly Northern Europe, who have VERY relaxed laws when it comes to /out/ stuff.

WHICH IS THE BEST STATE!?
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>California higher than Oregon

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>1172876
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>>1172870
nothing is neutral. if you are in California it has everything to do with Californians
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Nevada is a 10 if you like upland bird hunting.
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>>1172838
No Moose in CA, but good elk, deer, boar, and bird hunting up North. How is the surfing in your state?
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>>1172869
yeah you got to stay away from those atheists. they are worse than niggers
and don't forget about all those fucking vegans. those are also far worse than niggers
would punch square in the nuts/10
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>>1172884
I think Nevada is great for certain things, but god damn if it isn't barren as fuck. even the peaks I have little desire to climb because... they're just rocks with sage and juniper.
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>>1172883
No, because if I'm /out/ I'm interacting with exactly nobody, or a select few people of my choosing.
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>>1172871
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>>1172888
if you do anything in the state you are in someway supporting them
unless you only go there to wreck their shit and don't spend any money
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>>1172895
And you're back off the topic of weather CA is good for /out/, rather than as a state. Nice job bud.
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>>1172901
its part of the overall experience
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>states that voted for Shillary: -3
>states that voted for based god emperor Trump: +3
There, I fixed it.
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>>1172905
You're missing the point. The 10 whole dollarydoos they'll make on taxing my gas as I pass through is irrelevant. I'm there to enjoy the land itself. Which is the basis of the discussion. /out/. Like the board you're posting on.
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>>1172901
he's butthurt as fuck, just another moron who can't appreciate the good things that a place has to offer because politics have ruined his brain. Pretty sad actually.
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>>1172910
Fuck, I guess so.
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>>1172910
the good things are no where close to compensating for the bad things. and the bad things cant be tolerated anyways
I have been to California and I aint going back ever. would rather get shot
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>>1172909
(((they))) will use that 10 dollar to fund their advances to ruin your life
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>>1172918
If your system of beliefs was coherent I'd imagine (((they))) are everywhere and will ruin my life in my own state.

But it's not so I suppose I should stop replying.
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>>1172886
fuck those atheists
I don't associate with people like that
if anyone ever said something that makes it clear they is an atheist that's it. stay away from
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>>1172917
If you focus on /out/ yes they're but since you're just another brain dead partisan you aren't able to cope with it. Also where do you live again? Oh nevermind you didn't have the guts to say.
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>>1172922
its far more concentrated there. I know (((they))) are not close to me
the California state government is constantly working to support evil and degeneracy
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>>1172926
no one says where they are from
you don't even know if someone is a Russian spy. maybe you should investigate and make false statements about your investigation and spread rumors to push your political agenda
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>>1172934
desu I have been shilling for California since the beginning and I'm not even from there, but as a Mexican I do like the state.
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too much negative energy man. im out. but will be back you can count on it
I hope everyone stops supporting devil worshippers and kid diddling fags before its too late
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>>1172939
What?
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>>1172943
California plates get their cars keyed in my town
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>>1172958
Not a very Christian thing to do 2bh.
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>>1172816
You're assuming there are grasslands there. It's ALL agriculture. Iowa only has like .1% of it's natural prairie.
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>>1172874
>who have VERY relaxed laws when it comes to /out/ stuff
ROFL, maybe compared to the rest of the draconian laws in EU, but Europe is extremely restrictive outdoorswise compared to anywhere in the American west. The only "restrictions" in National Forest/BLM land are don't shoot across a road, don't build permanent structures, don't harvest minerals with heavy equipment.
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>>1172885
>How is the surfing in your state?

Surprisingly decent for a flyover state. Great Lakes = best lakes
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>>1172828
Agreed, although I live closer to the Big Horns so that's where I spend most of my time. I hope you have the good fortune of living in western Montana and not Miles City or some shit lol
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Can this thread not be a bunch of window lickers arguing over californian politics tho?
/pol/
/pol/
/pol/
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>>1172693
First post is, as expected, best post.
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Change Oregon, Washington, Arizona to 8, Change Utah to 9.
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>>1172687
Florida is atleast a 7, would be 9 if it weren't for the cops.
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>>1172687
why do you not like us South Dakotans anon? ;(
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>Minnesota
>Michigan
>4
unsure.jpg
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>>1172687
>most of middle east coast lower score than Florida

Off yourself my dude
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>>1172706
>this state
>a 6

Not all of California is San Francisco/LA, 99% of it isn't
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>>1173091
Other than the hills this looks southern Europe as fuck.
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What kind of shit is this?
Whoever made this crap has never been to Indiana.
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>yfw most people talk shit about their own state but when other say the same they get all chauvinistic and butthurt and start tiptoeing.
You can't make this shit up. Lots of loyalty for a Cantonese football card trading board.
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>>1172687
>Texas 1.5/10
piss off patchouli bob
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>>1172771
>1 single state
>almost every northern american biome is present
>ranked 1.5/10
this makes absolutely no sense. the only thing that is really lacking regarding texas landscapes and outdoor environments is heavy mountain. we've got mountains and mountain ranges, they're just not the rockies. mountains, beaches, heavy forest, rolling plains, grassland, hill country, desert..
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>>1173120
>Texas has everything
Nice anon let's go /out/ and enjoy it
>well, we can't because it's on private property
>but we can go shoot gophers at my friends ranch in Waco!
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>>1172723
we should make our own thread and rank the provinces & territories
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>>1172742
>tallest mountain in the lower 48
>yosemite
>anza borrego
>pct
>joshua tree
retard
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>>1173093
CA is like that
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>>1172709
gr8 b8 m8
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>>1173127
I don't see that that changes anything really. that's still 4700 square miles of accessible land. 3 million acres. Is that not enough space to find something interesting to do?
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>>1173127
Or go shoot fenced in hogs! Man, I sure do love hunting!
>>1172742
pic related
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fuck faggotfornia
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>>1173055
South Dakota has the black hills, which is top notch, but otherwise the whole state sucks
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>faggafornias can't even stop lighting their own state on fire
lmao it's not hard you don't see any other state being that retarded
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>Illinois is a 1
>what is Shawnee national forest
>what is cave in rock
>what is starved rock
>what is wolf road woods
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>>1173201
Stay made, flyover fags!
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>>1173201
>>1173270
there's a reason everyone wants to live here
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>>1172687
>Florida
>4
that's how I know whoever made this map has never been to Florida
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Washington needs fewer fucking Suburban Southern Californians bitching about everything like they're not the scum of the earth themselves.
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Don't get me wrong: rural CA has a lot of cool stuff, but the beltway retards amazon is shipping into the Puget Sound EN MASSE are going to fuck everything up. They're fucking trash, and one of these days me and my boys are going to go around beating the nike-wearing hollywood yokels with axe handles. Hashtag kill yourself.
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>>1173153

take a look at this>>1172693
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>>1173287
>thinks so many people want to live there
its clear that many people don't want to live there and don't want anything to do with it
that whole shithole can get destroyed from fires and mudslides. fuck them
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>>1172687
>Georgia - 3
>NC - 5
>TN - 2
>WA - 7
>Cali same as Utah
>Cali higher than Oregon and Washington
>Texas higher than CT

This was probably made by some retarded Californian that has never left his state and just lives his life on memes.
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So instead of circulating this fucking useless image, why don't we create a thread where we re-calculate the /out/ potential of each state based on quantifiable, relatively objective stats? Like:

> Number and size of national parks
> Percentage of land that isn't privately owned / part of a major metropolitan area
> Size and spread of metro areas / population density
> Variety of biomes and climate
> Quality of state park services
> Presence of mountains / water bodies

We could create a new map / image that actually lists some of these in bullet points rather than just arbitrarily slapping numbers over everything.
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>>1173517
That's what the original series of threads was, that came up with this map. I think what you mean is
>guys can we make a new map where my state is a 10?
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>>1173542
I think he meant come up with something using data facts and experiences and not looking at some garbage thrown together by a hybrid car exhaust huffing cotton headed ninny muffin Californian asshat who posts asking where the pussy trails are close to Los Angeles
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>>1172687
>kentucky 2.5
>tennessee 2
>ohio 1
>maine 5
>NC 5 when TN is 2
>oregon lower than california
>montana not 9
what the fuck is going on
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>>1173517
Because a lot of people take issue with a lot of those criteria. For example:
National parks or state parks are not the only way to go /out/. Undeveloped private land is even better because they're generally more low-traffic and have few trails except game trails. Private land is great for /out/ and rarely prohibits trespassing in my area. State parks are nice, but camping at a state park at a designated site with a nearby spigot and bathroom is like little baby camping compared to dispersed camping. I know that not all state parks are like this - that's exactly my point. There's no standard for what state or national parks are like. Some people like to avoid state park services and authorities and don't care what they're like. Another example, Gates of the Arctic is an amazing, beautiful wilderness park, but out of necessity has comparatively poor services.

There is no objective way to determine which states are good for /out/. Some people like woods, some like mountaineering, some like plains, some like hiking.
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>>1173517
For public land, letter grades are the easiest. Unless somebody smarter than I can figure out a good system to grade an entire state with 0-10 based on a number of separate grading systems, the entire map should be letter grades IMO, it just simplifies things. These are GENERAL USE public lands, not National Parks; if /out/ wanted to go for complete accuracy (autism to the rescue), we'd want to grade NPS land separately.

>1-20% Public land - D
>20-25% Public land - C
>25-35% Public land - B
>35%+ Public land - A

There's a website called backcountrychronicles that's gone through map data and added the public land for each state together, with "% of State Open to Hunt" and "Acres Per Person to Hunt" as data points. For the above purpose, "% of State Open to Hunt" would be the relevant category.

It doesn't look like he took state regs into account, so it's safe to say he assumed state owned land is good for hunting, so no correction is needed in the case of states like California, where it is in fact not allowed.

http://www.backcountrychronicles.com/public-hunting-land/

In my opinion, other graded categories should be:
>Number of National Parks
>Number of Designated Wilderness Areas
>Biomes within state
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>>1173517
>>1173589
By these standards the map in the OP post seems accurate, except California should be higher
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>>1173666
not really
they have a higher than expected amount of public land
but if you figure the ratio of public acres to people it is low. of course many of these people will never leave San Diego there is still a very large population at those other places
and you have to figure how easy that shit catches on fire
public land is controlled by Californian governments and many of the lands open to the public do not allow hunting
other activities will also have regulations and fees like 4 wheelers snowmobiles boating fishing.
and the drug people
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>>1173676
Slightly correct - hunting is disallowed on all state owned land, which is only a small portion of public land. Most of the public land in CA is USFS or BLM, or USFWS, almost all of which is open to hunting.

You're right though about most of the people never using public land beyond the stuff close to population centers.
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>>1172687
Oklahoma has some good forested mountains in the east. Definetely not a zero
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>>1172687
I'd change New York to 6 because of the Adirondacks and Alaska to 10. Most of the map is incorrect but that's just what jumped out at me
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Wow what a shit map my state isn't a 10
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>>1173390
What would you change these states scores to anon?
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>>1173517
I like this idea
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>>1173571
This. For example I've grown to love the desert so I'll complain about Arizona's score until the day I die. Between the mountains and the desert I love this place.

In my opinion this garbage image needs to stop being circulated, because it reflects only the most vague ideas and ultimately the taste of only the person that made it.
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>>1173542

I live in CT and I will tell you any time that my state is fucking garbage in every conceivable category besides homicides, drug overdoses and taxes. What I meant was:

> Can we have a map that isn't fucking trash

Your petty whiney response tells me that you're probably the same sort of peerson who made the original image in the first place.
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>>1173287
>>1173282
You live in a gay aids infested mexican shithole nanny state where everything costs 2x the rest of the country.
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>>1173517
This would be a better way to make the map but private land isn't even necessarily a bad thing. If it's not public it's bad? Is that that the way you feel about public transportation too? I'd much rather do things outdoors on private land than public.

Public is good and should count for something but is by no means the critical thing.
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Californians are all garbage people that ruin what would be a great state.
>t. californian.
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>>1172773
desu south of the Chicago area has some pretty dank forests and Starved Rock ain't half bad. I'd give the ole homestate a solid 3.5
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>>1172687
why no love for PA? should be 2.5 or 3.
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>>1174892
because its not near the west coast, duh.
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>>1172687
Fuck this! UP Michigan is way more Out than Colorado.Every valley in CO is filled with gapers and they be 7? Downstate MI is 4 but upNorth 5-6 and UP is 10 you FAG.
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>>1172737
Ummm no sweetie
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>>1172705
Texas fucking blows
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>>1172723
No one wants to camp in the snow and freeze their dicks off all year 1/10 out score for being totally unusable unless your a fat ass snow mobile
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>>1173127
Best post so far, fuck texas lame ass "try hard" southerners
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>>1173153
4chan /out only cares about car camping/knifes/pipes/and dick sizes

Anything that actually has to do with trekking or hiking is looked down upon by the fat asses who never leave their computers and run these boards.....
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>>1173561
Tennessee's mountains are full of tourist traps not outdoors
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>>1174919
Michigan more out than colorado?
Get out of your trailer and see the world you flat land faggot
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>>1172687
>Virginia
>3
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>>1172687
>>1174892
Nigger pa is at least a 5. The west coast is great but how the fuck is the east a 2 average
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I think I've made a map we can all agree on
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>>1172687
>minnesota and north dakota this low
This is the most ass chart I have ever seen. its LITERALLY finland tier forest
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>>1175056
10/10
its also pathetic that this shitpost chart is unironically more accurate than op's garbage
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>>1172977
Don't forget about the "don't build any sort of fire 95% of the year or we will fuck you with fines" rule of the western us.
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>>1172800
>he doesn't know of yooper
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>>1172687
>South Carolina
>3
I could go outside right now and have access to 4 lakes within 1 hour, and the Blue Ridge mountains are 30 minutes away.
Swamps and coastline downstate.

Made by a “The South is yucky” Californian. 2/10.
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Alabama doesn’t deserve a 2
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>>1174941
Youre just mad cause youre a faggot. Texas is 20x better than your shit hole.
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>>1175172
>Comparing south carolina to California
Im dead
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>>1175185
If you want to sit in traffic all day, or stare at farm land yeah texas is the shit
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>>1175172
You could live in Mammoth lakes california, live within a few miles of over 1000 lakes, right in the middle of the sierras.
>Population ~6000
>No Wal Mart
>No Fast food
>Mt Whitney
>Tons of girls who shred and blaze
>No Republicans or democrats
>Might get punched in the face and drug out of town if talking about politics
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>>1175191
>John Muir Trail
>Nude hot springs
>Thousands of miles of OHV trails for car campers
>Mammoth Mountain
>Johns Pizza
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>>1175185
>TFW someone compares urban hell hole Texas to California
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>>1172693
OBSESSED
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>>1175166
Some regularly logged flatland forests and lakes that get a bit of snow in the winter criscrossed by roads with a small town every few miles and a moderate population density? Yeah, every single western state has that and far more.
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>North Dakota
>THREE
Please
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>crtl f
>Idaho
>0 results
Kek
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>>1172687
dumb map is dumb

>cali 5.5
>alaska 10
>kansas / okaloma 2
>montana 9.5
>wyoming 8
>colorado 9
>texas 4
>louisiana, MS, AL 4
>georgia, SC, NC 5
>FL 7 if you count beach stuff
>NY 1
>MI 5
>WI 6
<MN 6
>ND 6

I guess when I look at with a few exceptions (CA, AK, MT) its fairly on taget.
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>>1174939
but alaska has the highest score on there
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>>1172811
post more, please - these are very funny!
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Public land is overrated.
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>>1175347
You could chop off the entire cold part (everything north of Denali) and Alaska would still have the highest score on the map. The 300 million acres of alternately mosquito infested and frozen bogs aren't what makes Alaska /out/.
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>>1175463
>entire cold part
Wheres the hot part?
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>>1172693
fpbp
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>>1175504
>hot and cold are the only two possible climates
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>>1172687
California is probably closer to a six or seven.

It has not happened just yet, but get ready for an about-face culture change when the Sierra Club starts the next phase.
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lmao at all the angry flyover statelets itt

of course your homes are cheap no on wants to live in your shithole states with inbred retards like you

coastal master race saying see ya later (from an airplane while I fly over your shitholes lmao)
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>>1174941
>Being this mad that you're not a Texan.
>Being this mad that your state is insignificant and has no history.
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>>1172687
the only thing wrong with california is californians
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>>1175667
>Only possible climate there is cold as fuck all the way to cold as fucking shit
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>>1175809
>Being triggered after being called a try hard
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>>1172687

Nothing should have a zero rating. Even the most barren states have SOME sort of out potential. Also Texas is too low.
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>>1176299
are you me?
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>>1175690

I'll enjoy watching the tsunami wipe you out.
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>>1176308

We are.
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You should lower arkansas because I don't want any of you guys coming here and figuring out how awesome this place is
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>>1172961
>and you are assuming its not
mfw was gone since Thursday and come back to see this
I don't know why anyone says these sort of things. probably this>>1172693
I will have you know within 15 miles of my home there is well over 1 thousand acres open to the public. swamp weeds grasses open water and trees that can handle lots of water
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>>1172773
>Illinois
Where? I am suffering.
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>>1176276
>this is cold as fuck
90% of the continental US has colder winters.
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>>1172687
southern Indiana is ace wtf
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>>1172687
DA UP needs to have a separate rating from lower Michigan, due to having a massive difference in climate and terrain.
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>>1172687
>Ohio 1
>Buckeye Trail
>Appalachia in the southernmost parts
>Easy access to Lake Eerie
>Hocking Hills
>Tons of abandoned shit to explore
>Whitetail and Turkey galore

Ok then.
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>>1172687
>Colorado is a 7 ad not a 10
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>>1175339
>I've never been to Michigan the post
You have no idea how diverse Michigan is. The Middle, Thumb and South is all farm land. Detroit is urbex. Northern Michigan is very hilly and heavily wooded lots of river fishing and inna woods.

The UP is Mountainous and full of water falls it is also fucking no mans land filled with abandoned mines.

Finally you have the Great Lakes Superior which is deep as fuck, Michigan where you have great Salmon fishing, and Erie which you can go ice fishing on.
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>>1172687
+CT, +1.5MA, +.5 NY +1 to NH and VT, +2-3 maine. I would also knock AK up to a 9.

frankly the ocean kayaking on costal midcoast maine alone should make it an easy 8. its pretty unmatched in the united states. thats not even considering the added benefit of katahdin for summer and Sugarloaf for winter.
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>>1177510
>Colorado is a 7 and not an 8.5

ftfy


also while America is the greatest nation on earth and in history... there are no 10s here. real talk.
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>>1177727
Naa, Colorado is awesome
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>>1172693
>he doesn't realize that the klamath has more unexplored wilderness than anywhere else in the pac nw

stay mad bubba
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>>1172876
>has everything Oregon has plus the craziest deserts, insane beaches, vast wine country...

Oregon can't compete.
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>>1173517
>why don't we create a thread where we re-calculate the /out/ potential of each state based on quantifiable, relatively objective stats?

Because California would be a 10 and the flyover tears will flow like our delicious wines.
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>>1177823
California is a 10 in terms of nature but a 1 in terms of the people and state legislature. The fact that Alaska which is essentially /out/land only received an 8.5 on that list is fucking retarded.

>Dakota's, Minnesota, Wisconsin and Michigan are 4 or lower
By what metric?

Why were retarded up their own ass west coast fags who have one of the most polluted and anti /out/ places in the country allowed to make this?
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>>1172687
>Appalachians are no more than 3
have you ever even left the West Coast?
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>>1177823
>live in Michigan
>we also can make wine because we are also on the 45th parallel and muh Glacial Soil
>no drought because muh Giant Fresh Water Lakes
>cherries
>Oh yeah we can grow hops because we are also on the 48th parallel which we make into beer with the grains we grow
>muh liberal gun laws
>don't have a boat that's fine local water freezes and you can fish anywhere
>go see some icebergs when it gets really cold
>hike some giant sand dunes in the summer
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>>1177827
No.
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>>1177825
alaska has some great country but it's pretty limited in its choices. aside from 3-4 months of summer, its cold as fuck and theres snow everywhere.

theres a lot more to outdoors than playing in the snow
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>>1173278
Thank you I used to live by starved rock now I'm in Shawnee
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>>1173278
>>1176350
if anyone in Illinois wants to find land open to public just tell me what county
if you are in Chicago you are fucked I hate you you might as well just go to Wisconsin cuz its going to be a long drive anywhere. I don't associate with people from Chicago

I have lists and map from state organizations. it wont show everything like places owned by the county or near me there is a large lake that charges $5 a day that wont be in my sources

there is well over a thousand acres in my county

I will look it up for you but I wish you were smart enough to do it on your own
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NC is a little better than VA, I'll give you that, but it's not on par with Baxter or the Allagash up in Maine.

NC should be 4.
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>>1175004
Anywhere outside of the South East of PA is at least a 5. Central and North Central PA is a 6 or 7. Philly area is a 1-2 depending on how far out of the city you are
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>>1172687
>Texas hill country
>1.5

I fucking hate Texas but u wot m8?
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>>1172687
>Colorado
>most 14ers and 13ers in the lower 48 plus a 250 mile long trail through several mountain ranges
>a 7
>Nebraska
>a state filled with horse trails, easy hikes, and wide open parties
>a 0
This list was made by an absolute retard
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>>1172810
You're dumber than a sack of rocks and haven't left your home state enough, most of nebraka is unused plains and there are tons of forests in the northwest corner of it.
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>>1178695
>"Nebraska’s farms and ranches utilize 45.2 million acres – 91% of the state’s total land area."
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>entire appalachian mountain range is 2-3.
into the trash
this list is shit written by west coast patchouli fags
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>>1178877
>that
>mountains
lmao
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>>1172687
>ocean doesn't count
>the post
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>>1173153
>handicap accessible parks

Neat /out/ you got there anon
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>>1174949
>I've only been to Chattanooga
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>>1173960
>>1173201
fuck off with your politics
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>>1178882
>its not a mountain unless it's -30
enjoy freezing your balls off connor. Ill go camping and backpacking comfortably.
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>>1178921
The anon above said it best. The only thing wrong with California is all the Californians.
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>>1178912
>handicap accessible parks
So like everything east of the rockies?
>eastcoast mountainlets only have a couple points that are more than slight bumps
>they build roads to the top
lmao
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>>1178937
They're almost a billion years old anon and up until around 500 million years ago they were part of a mountain range that then stretched through Scotland and Morocco. When 500 millions years old, you reach... look as good, you will not.

Also, don't be a piece of shit.
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Why are the Dakotas so low on the list?
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>>1172828
How's /out/ in Montana anon? It's one of the places I am considering moving to.
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>>1172801
>Almost nobody lives on the coast north of Sonoma county all the way to Coos Bay OR
Kek all that land is private until you hit the redwoods
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>>1175343
Panhandle is 8.5/10
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>>1177727
Utah is 10, western CO is 10, northern CA is 10
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Also fuck this arbitrary shit have fun comparing states that take 8 hours to cross vs 45 minutes get back to me when you break it down into legit and equal sized areas

It also depends w h ere you live I'm in socal and happen to live ne t to a nice chunk of vacant land that I can walk out my ftont door and go eexplore whenever I want but if I lived even ten minutes away that dynamic would change completely because I would be forced to drive , little things like that makr a big difference
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>>1179247
if northern CA is a 10 what the fuck is nepal?
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>>1172687
Wyoming is nice in the mountain range, but you have to understand that half of the state is wasteland
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>>1172687
Indiana deserves more than a 1
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>>1172925
heh, I remember flame warrior
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>>1179263
10. Most of Earth is 10 desu
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>>1179611
Comfy post
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>>1179263
considering the climate and lack of variety, I'd say high-midrange. theres so much more to outdoors than climbing mountains.
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>>1179633
>theres so much more to outdoors than climbing mountains
t. flatlander
What you don't realize is that the mountain states have all those other things too.
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>>1179704
they have a version of those things, just like Oklahoma or Tennessee has a version of mountains.
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>>1179611
The most wholesome thing I've ever read on this Javanese pasta rolling website.
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>>1179611
>>1179715
honestly, this guy is right.
if youre a fan of outdoors you can find something no matter where you are. that's why this map is a fucking joke. whoever graded it is only acknowledging the particular type of outdoors that he prefers. if I were drawing this map with only my personal preferences, I would give more points to areas with good terrain as well as favorable climates instead of good terrain no matter the climate. there's nothing fun to me about having to dress in a heavy weather suit to comfortable mush in sub zero temps.

ill take a light kit and tent backpacking in the mountains any day.
but then that wouldn't be an unbiased map.
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>>1177719
This guy knows. Pictured rocks are fuckin based. Taquaminon falls is based. Sleeping bear dunes, port Austin, based. Shit, the whole fucking state is /out/ once you get away from the handful of big cities.
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>>1179196
Nice but probably overrated
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>>1172938
> mexican
Que demonios andas abriendo el hocico si no eres de alla mojado?
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>>1172687
>TN is a 2
I felt this autism all they way over on /k/. There couldn't be a more wrong number... except 1.
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nevada, arizona and utah all need to be higher. nevada is not just LV and arizona is not just phoenix
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>>1181095
I would raise utah to a 9 or even a 10, raise both nv and az to a 7 and drop cali to a 7
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>>1180832
How so?
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>>1172687
Triggered as fuck by Colorado and Wyoming. Also why not just make Alaska the baseline of 10/10 and create a metric from there?
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>>1179196
FOWF
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>california scoring above 4
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>>1178877
Nice hill
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The California score is justified. Other states such as colorado and montana have beautiful areas but they lack the outdoor diversity of California.

The Death Valley desert
Yosemite waterfalls and mountains
Lake Tahoe and Mammoth for snow
The outdoor beach areas for camping such as Big Sur
The redwood forest
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>>1178929
>stifling heat and humidity
>bugs
>comfortable
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>>1172687

Northern Georgia deserves at least a 6 and the lower gets a 2.
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>>1181699
>bugs
stay indoors anon, for your own safety. there are bugs outside.
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>>1181645
>filled with Californians
no thanks
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>>1172687
it's kind of silly to give states low scores that they get a 0 lol. Also it makes little sense why TN and KY get 2/2.5s because the Appalachians are fucking amazing.
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>>1172705

The bad thing about Texas is that there isn't much public land, and the little public land there is, is usually 3 to 6 hours away.

t. Texan
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>>1181710
>cold
It's not below zero year round in the mountains, you know. In fact in late spring/summer/fall the weather is God tier.
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>>1178937
>they build roads to the top
>lmao
faggot
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>>1181645
You cant take an arbitrary area and pick scores. If If I live in the southwest corner of Colorado Im closer to more of Utah, Arizona and NM then I am to the rest of Colorado. It kinda works but it will always be flawed
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>>1181903
It's just made by some CA fag who thinks a undeveloped public land and terrain he doesn't like is bad outdoors.
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>>1182730
I hope you realize that California has far more undeveloped public land than any of the low scoring eastern states.
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>>1172687
>Nevada
>6
As a Nevadan, no.
A 2 or a 3, maybe.
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>>1182767
Nevada has impressive mountain ranges throughout the state. You're just a redditor.
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>>1174949
>>1178914
is right, you've only been to chattanooga. the smokies and the plateau are very nice.
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>>1172687

>Texas: 1.5
>New Mexico: 6

fuck outta here

Texas isn't the best outdoors state by a mile but it is a lot better than a 1.5 and New Mexico is inferior to none except maybe Montana and Utah.
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>this many people getting butthurt about an obvious bait map
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>>1179565
tell us why
describe some cool stuff in Indiana
not tryna disrespect just curious , never been there
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>>1183390
Well uh it's got some forests and creeks and shit
Solid 7 for sure
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>>1177827
>NC is a 5
:^)
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I know I’m late but how is Louisiana? Is it really a 2?
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>>1172810
Has no idea what the fuck he's talking about.
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>>1172961
Are you from Iowa? Or are you just saying it's ALL agriculture because that's what you read or heard?
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>>1176345
Where are you from?
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>>1177949
>go to wisconsin

Fuck off FIB, we are full.
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>>1172706
i got good news for you then
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/new-california-declares-independence-from-rest-of-state/
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>>1172687
Tennessee should be higher
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>>1172687
I suggest florida
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>>1183477
is it seriously habbening?
New California seems like a good idea to me
I guess we should check /pol/

maybe Chicago will be next? we are in a similar situation and its been like that forever. Chicago dominates the political shit but they are very different from the rest of the state
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also why is new mexico this much better as texas
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>>1174949
>>1179712
confirmed : tennessee has no mountains.
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>>1172687
This is awful, who rated these?
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>>1172773
>>1173561
>>1177401
Ohio might be a 1-1.5 in the northern half, but is at least a 2.5 for the area within 40-50 miles of the southern border along the river, especially when you get towards the Athens area.
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>>1183787
Also confirmed that OP/artist has only traveled through IL, IN, and OH on I70/I80 and didn't know they have mountainous areas.
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>>1183736
someone that lives in california and has never been more than 800 miles from home.




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