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>new season of anime is here
>see a show centered around camping
>its beta tier japanese camping but have to settle for something i guess
>pretty comfy and the soundtrack is nice
>then this scene
>perfectly good anime ruined in 2 seconds

Also batoning discussion. and /out/ anime i guess
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is this comming from >>>/c/

?
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>>1173450
/a/, the series is Yuru Camp
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Personally I like batonning with a hatchet or froe type tool. The thing that ruined batonning and turned it into a meme are all the fags on youtube that baton with with pocket knives and small fixed blades. Personally, I would never baton with my knife, regardless of it's size.
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>>1173439
That's a traditional Japanese hatchet m8 made from folded 1000x steel. It's meant to take a beating.
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>>1173439
What do they call that tool in the original language show? It looks like a Japanese woodworking tool, similar to a froe, called a "Takewari". In which case, that is the acceptable tool for batoning.
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>>1173519
I forgot to add that the takewari is intended to only be used with batoning bamboo, not regular woods.
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>>1173439
>its beta tier
/thread
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>>1173520
I love these webms
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>>1173519
>literally shaking
>but mom
I love this.
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>>1173439
>Yuru Camp


y'all need some Yama no Susume
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>>1173520
>>1173534
Okay, this might be a dumb question, but why the fuck are they trying to chop wood with knives when they have a hatchet with them?
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>>1173594
>that's the joke
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>>1173594
That is the enigma of the mentality of the batonny chop chop babby.
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>>1173651
why
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>>1173519
>Bear Grylls knife
>Tacticool pants

Kek
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>>1173594
<autistic screeching> caption on the second Webm is all you need to know anon
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>>1173468
Thoughts on kukri batoning? Gay or okay?
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>>1173739
see webm in >>1173520
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>>1173439
>it's fine for wood of that size as long as it's not some tacticool knife
then again wood of that diameter i just toss in whole
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>>1173519

Hey dipshits, /a/ here. It's called a nata.

Also, Yuru Camp wasn't made for campers, it was made to convince hikkis to go outside and maybe even visit Fuji. I don't know what you expected but there it is.
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>>1173739
I am sure you could do it, I don't think the blade geometry lends itself very well to the task though, same thing goes for any knife really. I only baton with the hatchet or the buck froe. The buck has a very wedge like design so it pops the wood apart just like the hatchet.
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>>1173743
Right but what if you don't be a retard?
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>>1173651
god wtf, I'm new to /out/ but even my dumb ass knows not to do anything like this
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>but have to settle for something i guess
That's where you're wrong
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>>1173791
You misunderstand. Batoning in general is retarded. Use a froe.
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I baton because having aesthetic kindling pleases me. Batonny with anything other than a hatchet or froe type implement is hella retarded though, if you don't have the right tools than just use twigs.
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This thread needs to commit sudoku
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>>1173439
that looks like an actual froe of some sort, rather than an overpriced bushcraft knife, although they usually have perpendicular handles because most people won't split tiny logs like that and you need the reach.
Nothing wrong with using a tool for it's intended purpose.

Might watch this, looks cozy, but I doubt it reaches the pure cute-girls-doing-out-things level that yama no susume did
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>>1173468
Gotta carry the right knife desuu.
I have a knife made out of toolsteel which I carry every day. It may not stay sharp, but I can smack it wit a hammer till it resembles a portobello. I've used it to pry with and turn screws, it just bends eventually.
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>>1173519
>>1173520
Fucking kek
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>>1173456
>not using a remote canister stove

Yeah, its a shit anime.
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>>1173520

MOTHER OF GOD
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>>1174109

It's a traditional Japanese hatchet, though it's basically just a non-stabby knife to get around laws.

The problem is that they have almost no tang, so the handle seperating from the blade is a real possibility.

You definitely don't want to baton with one.
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>>1174229
What do you mean to get around laws?
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>>1174247

Japan, and other Asian countries, don't like stabby knives when outside of the home.

Pretty sure you can't carry a pointed knife in Japan, for example.
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>>1173439

She actually used it properly in the show, anon.

That's how you do it with a hatchet or hatchet-like knife.

No faggy batonny chop chop here.
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>>1174109
>>1174229
It is a bamboo froe, meant for bamboo only (Takewari). You do baton with it, but never with normal wood, only with bamboo. Bamboo is super easy to split.

The one used in the Yuru Camp anime is being used incorrectly regardless of what it is intended to be used with. The method shown to split the wood is very dangerous.
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>>1174147
>but I can smack it wit a hammer till it resembles a portobello
>used it to pry with and turn screws, it just bends eventually.

Absentee father?
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>>1174261
>She actually used it properly in the show, anon.

You are full of shit. That technique is how you slice the ever loving shit out of your hand. This is the proper technique. Never ever ever ever put your hand under the blade like it shows in that anime.
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>>1174287
I thought that you would usually hold it with your hands and chop gently until it bites enough into the wood to hold, then remove your hand and perform a chopping motion with the hatchet+piece of wood, splitting it further and further upon impact. At least that's how I would do it with the pieces and hatchet shown in your webm. [spoiler]But I am from /a/, so I don't know much about the reality of this.[/spoiler]
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>>1174287

Watch it again.

She gently makes it bite in, then removes her hand when splitting it.

There's zero risk of cutting yourself how she did it.
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>>1174293
The technique used in that anime is one you are taught never to use IRL because people consistently get fucked up from it. I learned that both from my father and from scouts. Besides, she's using the wrong tool for wood splitting. That's a bamboo froe, only for bamboo splitting.
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>>1174819
>>>/reddit/
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>>1174831
>>>/a/
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Is this how you make camp buddies? I also camp alone
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>>1175127
Somewhat, yes. All my camp buddies come from the local camp grounds I'm saying at. The general rule is that if you stay in your tent overnight, you're sleeping with someone from another tent or vice versa. After a week or two, the campground neighborhood is much like a family. Everyone knows everyone else fairly well. It is quite refreshing.
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>>1173672
>>1173922
ITSH CALLED A STRESS TESHT AND A QUALITEE BUSHY CRAFT KNOIFE SHUD HANDLE BEING MASHED INNA LOG WIF A HAMMER OR IS TRASH.
>n befor u shud nvr use ur knoife lik that.
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>>1175454
>muh stress test
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>>1175474
R.I.P Allie. the only things worth watching about nutn
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>>1173520
Holy shit. lol
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>>1173519
this one makes me feel bad
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>>1173439
that's some sort of traditional wood splitter. I've seen them before in period films. These are actually dsigned to split wood but I also believe they tend to have softer woods.
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>>1174283
lmao there is more than just one type of hatchet u dumb weeb
the one in the anime is obviously pic related which my gma uses to trim tree branches for firewood
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>>1173651
post moar
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>>1178312
This, it's a Japanese chopping hatchet.
Op is retarded
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>>1178321
when an /out/ist goes /out/
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Should I buy "Wood™" or just pay the park fee?
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>>1178761
I think you need to buy it in that location and use one of those BBQ table things.
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>>1178312
>he thinks the big knife is a "hatchet"

lol
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>>1173771
Gb2 br/a/inlet. I dont hate your post I hate you.
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Batoning is stupid for most scenarios but if a fixed blade can not handle it, it's garbage. Mors Kochanski said you needed to be able to stick your knife in a tree and do pull ups.
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>tfw 1 pound hatchet
>tfw never shattered a knife
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>>1178804
>tool meant to slice through objects and if needed saw through them too
>"hurrrr it should be able to hold a weight 100 of times its own and chop through thick logs"
Wow I didn't know adamantium was the only acceptable knife material!
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>>1178804
>stick your knife in a tree and do pull ups.

Some knives can do that, but then you can't get it back out easily.
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>>1178862
Bitch please, I can put my weight on my knife sideways.
In fact, I've used the tang of it for a climbing aid while free climbing on a fishing trip
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>>1178881
>bitch please
How many inches did you climb
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>>1179048
3
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The real thing that ruined it is her blowing up her air mattress with her mouth. The moisture in breath causes mold to grow inside those mattresses that you can't even see, which is fucking nasty. Either bring a hand pump or don't bring an air mattress
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>>1179073
Air mattresses are fine, what ruined it for me is that she’s using one for winter camping. She needs a foam sleeping pad or she’s gonna freeze her ass off.
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Why isn’t she using a katana to cut the wood?
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>>1179099
You use that to cut down uppity peasants.
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>>1173439

The tool the bitch is using is made for that. Also batoning is nothing new, has been published in books since 1910. Stop being autistic faggot.
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>>1179073
>>1179077
You're both wrong, but in different ways.

1) Why the fuck do you care if you have mold on the inside of your sleeping pad? You never come into contact with it unless you're sucking on the valve to deflate it or something.
2) My air mattress with an R-value of 9 is more insulating than any foam pad I've found yet. Air mattresses have come a long ways.
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>>1179108
Batoning is tool abuse, kid.
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>>1179120
>>1179073
>>1179077
I used pool floats as air mattresses before. They work really well even in winter. Convection inside them isn't much of a concern it turns out.
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>>1179124
Do these people just not want to bring small hatchets along?
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>>1179124
this is just a crappy knife
a knife made of german steal wouldn't break in 100 years of cleaving
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>>1179128
Seems like a chore.
I wouldn’t want a knife snapping while in my hands or near my face either
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>>1179124
Did you read the thread? She's not batonning with a regular knife, she batonning with a nip knife specifically designed for chopping wood.
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>>1179129
steel*
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>>1179128
>>1179129
The mental state of people who batonny chop chop is one of ignorance, mystery, and stupidity. It is so pervasive that even their choice of tool is retarded let alone how they try to use it.
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>>1179134
Did you read the post that was being replied to: >>1179108 you know the one that specifically mentions batonny chop chop; the one that implies that it is okay to do?

She's also not batonny chop chopping at all. If you want to see a woman batonny chop chop, you'll have to watch this video.
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>>1179136
>>1179129

but this is a shit knife too
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>>1179140
Anyone who does batonny chop chop uses a shitty knife. Some are worse than others.
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>>1179136
You couldn't split that log without an axe what the fuck is wrong with batoners.
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>>1179146
why the fuck should someone own a crappy knife?
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>>1179139
What the fuck
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>>1179162
I think it is a mental disease.
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>>1179048
Just around some slippery rocks.
At times, I would jam the tang into a crack in the rocks and support my body from it to not slip.
It was maybe 100ft high, I started from a beach to the side, and climbed up 15ft and over to a good place I could sit and cast off of.
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How to batonny without breaking your knife

1. Use a heavy knife that's like 1/5 inch thick and has a decent tang that isn't two inches long and fastened in a plastic handle. The beefy girth is mandatory because you are splitting and if you use your cold steel wakazashi it will not split the wood and will become stuck
2. Use a heavy stick and don't hit it with a steel hammer like a fucking moron
3. Line up with the knots in the wood so you aren't hitting the worst ones at an intersecting angle
4. If the wood is too knotty or otherwise difficult to cleave don't wail on it like some kind of pissed off gorilla
5. An axe is better
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>>1179284
>1/5" thick "knife"

That's not a knife anymore.
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/a/ here
does yuru camp portray a realistic camping experience?
how does one get into c/a/mping?
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>>1179284
>1/5 inch thick
u wot m8
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>>1179361
Sow is basically a 20mn infomercial for camping gear.

Except the part where she was complaining abut campfires, that was 100% accurate.
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>>1179361
Yessir
>how does one get into camping
find a campsite
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>>1179361
Get gear and just go at it, In England you can even camp on private property if it's sjut for a day/night
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>>1179361
Wake up at dawn and git in your car. Next you drive to the nearest widely known state or national park.
Next you just park somewhere and fucking chill in the forest or whatever.
You could also try walking about, but bring water for that.
Just start small, you don't have tk go tenting for 5 days to get an /out/ experience.
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>>1179361
Keep in mind the name of the show, too. It's purely casual camping.
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>>1179423
Quite true.
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>>1179423
Yeah, Yuru means "not so serious".
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>>1179476
"Laid-back camp" is the English title, fyi.
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>>1179136
What in the flying Fuck is that guy doing?....
If ur gonna baton something it's gotta be like small sticks an inch or two thick not a fuckin tree stump wtf...
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>>1179592
Why batonny chop chop small sticks? Just toss them in the fire.
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>>1174254
There's a Japanese hunter on YT who uses exclusively pointed knives.
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>>1179808

Virtuovice is vaary gud channel. Vaaary gud. I rike dis knife, vary sharp knife
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>>1179146
fats.
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>>1179594
To get a good clean angle for feathersticks
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>>1179850
Use a twig you moron.
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>tfw I exclusively battony chop chop just to piss off autists


Its a Chad thing brahs you wouldnt understand
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>>1180017
>implying Chad doesn't just use his hands to split wood
Faker faggot
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>>1180017
Posers

Men do not tend the fire. That is women's work. Women gather the fuel, start the fires, butcher the animals, prep the food, and cook the food. All you do is kill the animals that will be going into the cook pot, teach your sons how to do that, and fuck the women.
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>>1179124

I love it how he doesn't even know what kind of wood to gather. Branches are hard to chop through and they will most likely break knives.

Imagine, it all comes down to "I can't carry a 2-pound hatchet because in a survival situation weight can kill" or something similar.

And then they risk the knife and break it without any reconsideration! What the hell!
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>>1180080
What would you recommend for large pieces of wood over branches/trunk parts?
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>>1179124
>Bomber jacket
>Camo pants
>Tacticool armyman backpack with patches
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>>1180082
Not him, but I just use a hatchet or axe for wood processing if I need big stuff. For everything else I just break some twigs and branches for a rocket stove using only my hands.
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>>1180082
Pack it in
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>>1179157
Sure you could.

>>1180082
A hatchet or preferably an axe and don't hit it too close to the gnarl.
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>>1180185
I meant to write that if there is a gnarl on the log, you should split it from the other side but if there's no difference (if there's gnarls all over), don't hit too close to one because it will just break the blow.
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I baton from time to time when it's raining and I need dry wood but I only baton soft wood with a really thick metal Piece of shit knife.

My general rules are
If the knife doesn't sink in immidatley then I shouldn't continue to baton that wood or move closer to the outside of the log

rarely baton anything thicker than my forearm

There's safe ways to do this and if you have a dedicated piece of shit to do it with then I see no harm in punishing a knife you hate.
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>>1178773
>he thinks the hatchet is a "big knife"

lol
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>>1179210
this is the funniest to me because he couldve just pushed the knife down instead of angling it inwards and banging on it




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