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Hey /out/
I would like to ask for your advice, situation is the following:
I graduated a week ago, so now i have a degree in horticulture. My long term goal is to save up enough money to buy a 1,5-2 ha land in my home country (Eastern Europe region) where I can set up a smallscale organic farm. To achieve this, i have to get a job and grind first. I would like to work in my field, but i can not make money out of that around here. So I'm thinking about going west for a couple of years, to get my hands dirty with some full-time or seasonal farm/outdoors work. Any help is appreciated, point me to forums, share your experience, tips, stories. I'm really desperate here.
World wide opportunities on organic farms
Thanks anon. I checked WWOOF, but it mostly seems to be about unpayed volunteer-work. Maybe my original post was not clear, I want to save up money for the future. I want to go abroad mainly for that reason. Is it possible to transition to a paying position after WWOOF-ing? To find out about local opportunities during volunteering? I really like some of the stuff on WWOOF, but I am already in my mid 20s, so I have the urge to consider future goals as well.
I know you're asking for questions OP, but I'd like to ask you how was it working for that degree in horticulture? I'm interested in something like that as well since I also want to start an organic community farm in my area, although I'm in the US.
*asking for answers
Don't the Dutch have a large greenhouse industry? You might try inquiring at some greenhouse facilities in the Netherlands.
OP here
I do not know about the laws in the US concerning agricultural-land ownership. If it is a requirement to have a degree to buy land, go for it. If you plan to chase a career in agronomy at big companies, go for it. If your plans are to go small scale and organic, getting a degree would be a waste of time in my opinion. You have to learn way too much shit in areas useless for your cause like marketing, economy, industrial-scale crop production (think monsanto-style methodology), a ludicrous amount of raw and potentially useless data (this happened with me in courses of ornamental plant-production mostly), etc. All in all about 2/3 of the stuff I have learned would only be useful if I planned to chase a job in some super specified area, and half of that will be outdated in, say, 5 years if not less. Hands-on experience was way too scarce as well, most of the 3,5 years was classroom stuff. Needless to say this is not a field you can become an expert of in a classroom. Also, organic farming was a specification, in the base curriculum it is barely mentioned.
Bare in mind I know nothing about how this goes down in the U.S.. If it is somewhat similar, I would say it is a waste of time considering your goals. Getting real-life experience at full- and small scale organic farms, learning about organic production in the means of self-education and saving up some money to fund your future farm-projet would be the way to go.
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Yes, the dutch are the autistic geniuses of the greenhouse-industry. I'm already looking for job opportunities there. I have some moral dilemmas tho, as I think that kind of agricultural practice is the very basis of the first worlds overconsumption, and a prime example of technological insanity. None the less, I do not really have the option of sorting things out on a strict moral basis right now, so I go wherever I get a chance to go to.
I'm gonna derail this thread.

I'm studying electrical engineering technology, what's a quality /out/ job i can get? I live in Canada btw.
>hear stories of people changing massive resistors in the middle of nowhere from helicopters for distribution purposes
You need to put in hundreds of hours before anyone will even refer you to that kind of work. Get busy, boyo.
3.8-4.9 acres is not alot of land. I'd look for 10-12 if it was me. Never know if the land prices will skyrocket.

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