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What kind of food do you bring on long backpacking trips? And what kind of stove do you use?
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>>1192110
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>>1192110
fellow backpacker told me to start dehydrating my own food like fruit and berries to add to my own meals. Its too bad dehydraters are so expensive. Gonna lurk this thread for ideas though.
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>>1192128
>expensive
Fuck.
https://makezine.com/projects/make-43/box-fan-beef-jerky/
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>>1192110
I just forage shit. Berries are fucking everywhere and fish are simple enough to catch. Throw in some tubers and crap there you go.
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>>1192128
do it in your oven. just set it low (like 170°f), keep the door cracked for air circulation, and bake them for a few hours. that's how i make dehydrated pasta sauce. i even took a bunch of pics one time to make an infographic of it, but my lazy ass hasn't put them together yet.
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>>1192137
You see any fuckin berries or fish?
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>>1192143
>enough resources to support the hundreds of people who lived there
>not enough to support 1 anon
hmmm
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>>1192110
https://www.rei.com/learn/expert-advice/planning-menu.html

Also Whisperlite
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>>1192167
You see hundreds of people?

The point being climate change is eternal and what was once viable for hundreds, is now arid and unsustainable. And this goes on and on...

Anon saying there are berries and fish everywhere is stupid and short sighted anon.
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>>1192110

I spend the time and make up a series of read-to-cook meals in zip-lock bags. Here are some examples:

Hearty porridge: rolled oats, milk powder, dried fruit pieces; various nuts, brown sugar, cinnamon powder. Add water and heat and you've got a solid breakfast. Can vary amounts and types of nuts to maximise high-energy oil content.

Spicy coconut curry: red lentils, powdered coconut powder, veggie stock powder, spice mix (grind my own), dried mushrooms, dried onions, garlic powder, sundried tomatoes. Add all this to water and cook until lentils are soft. Serve with rice using absorption method cooked beforehand.

Beef stew: beef stock cube, dried onions, garlic powder, dried beef (I make my own jerky), soup mix grains (mixture of lentils, beans, barley etc).

Foods like this plus generous bag of dried fruit and nuts keep me going for weeks.
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>>1192177
Tl;dread to cook
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buy a dehydrator. a nice one with steel grates is only like $200 and it will last you a life time. fuck carbs and sugar
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>>1192172
Have you tried not living in a shitty desert state filled with Mexicans?
Plenty of berries and fish pretty much everywhere but the South West
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>>1192143
I dont see anyone alive either.
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unless you wanna eat granola all day or pretend the shit you dehydrated and packed is actually going to satisfy you after 8 hour hiking days, just buy the premade freeze dried stuff you poor fucks.

Nothing beats the orgasmic taste of hot spaghetti after a long hike, regardless if it's freeze dried. Sure granola and the like are perfect for on-the-trail eating, but when you're camping, fuck that shit.

And if you're not hungry enough to think one of those meals is appetizing, you aint doing enough.

I'd eat a fucking cake made out of slim jims at the end of a backpacking day if someone brought one.
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>>1192133

You can make a solar dehydrator with a large box, clear plastic wrap, some wire racks, aluminum foil and dark paper or spray paint. Maybe 5 bucks worth of materials and sunshine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhG7mGIc6qg

The stuff will dry out in a day or two which is just as good as a fancy electric dehydrator.

If you don't have good sun this time of year or just live someplace like the UK or PNW where they don't know what sunlight is, then you can use the conventional oven in your kitchen, @ 150°F or above you can dehydrate pretty much anything, it'll just take a day or two, you just want to keep the temp under 160° F and it'll go a bit quicker, just don't go above that or the food will cook more than dehydrate. Even a small toaster oven will do the job if you don't have a big batch.

<Pic related dried out these little bastiches in the oven for chili powder.

It requires taking advantage of fruits and veggies when they're in season if you grow your own like I do, and you can keep a close eye on the grocery circulars to get stuff when it's cheap to dehydrate for camping food.
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>>1192110
>What kind of food do you bring on long backpacking trips? And what kind of stove do you use?
depends a lot on where I am actually going, above tree line means no wood and all fuel needs to be carried in,which requires a different stove, shorter cooking times and hence different food.
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>>1192375

If you can afford it, one of these would be the best thing ever. Totally not for poorfags, so not for me. Maybe I should call them and see if they do Lay-a-way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JDX0H3wt4E
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>>1192110
I tend to bring mostly ready to eat stuff like salami and pop tarts, but im a sucker for hot dinners.

I'm leaning towards getting an alcohol stove since its lighter and packs better than the canister stoves.
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>>1194310
Also other good snacks include:

Snickers, jack lynks cheese and sausage, granola bars.
Also you can put a lot of shit in tortillas, tuna packets (spicy ones are pretty good), peanut butter, honey, jelly, Nutella.

Plus you can integrate dehydrated milk into your meals for some creamy oatmeal, or granola in milk (great on cold mornings)
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>>1192110
Hardtack
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I just started buying bulk dehydrated veggies and noodles from Winco.
Been making little MREs.
>>1192177
Yo, good recipies. Got any more?
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Miso packs are fantastic. Something light but has flavor, just add hot water. Stir.
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>>1195705
forgot pic
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>>1192143

juniper, yucca hearts, all manner of animals, burdock roots, prickly pears, most flowers. your real concern will be water

>t. lived in the southwest for 15 years
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>>1192133
Pffft, my family makes jerky in the oven. Soy sauce jerky, matter if fact.
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>>1195792
>soy
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>>1195798
Soy sauce is fermented and brined. All the compounds are completely broken down.
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>>1192110
Trader Joe's has a weirdly big selection of dehydrated fruits and vegetables, plus some pretty good pastas and snacks and stuff. I fucking hate Mountain House type meals but some garlicky pasta with broccoli and bacon jerky really hits the spot at night.
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>>1192128
How to make a food dehydrator for around $5:
>Acquire cardboard box (I used the box for my mini fridge)
>Wire PC fan to usb charger
>Cut hole in top of box, fitting fan so it's sucking air from the box and blowing it out
>Cut equal sized hole at the bottom of one side for air inlet
>Put 60-100 watt incandescent at the bottom of box (not resting directly on box)
>Make shelving system somehow (I use cooling racks)
>Put food in, turn on light and fan, close box
>Remove when dehydrated
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summer sausage, spam, bread, bouillon cubes, rice, dry beans, and whatever small game you can kill.
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>>1195695
What is this?
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Couldn't you just eat those survival bars that are like 2000-3000kcals each? Supplemented with a multi-vit and maybe some packet noodles/risotto.
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>>1196038
You could also eat that at home, but nice food is better.
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>>1195918
Im willing to drop the 100 dollars or so to not have to do this every time I need to use it and be a fuckin' retard with too much time.
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>>1195941
Shrooms, noodles and veg soup base.
They only cost like, 80 cents to make.
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>>1192413
Can you please explain to me how meat can be dehydrated in these things over 2 days? I genuinely cant understand it not going rancid in that time.
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>>1196038
nothing worse than hiking 20 or 30 miles and having shit food.
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>>1192110
drained tuna in the foil packs, grab some single use packets of relish and mayo and eat out of the packet with a spoon

velveeta Mac and cheese, boil the noodles like normal and all you have to do is add cheese
bagels are pretty smush resistant if you get tired of tortillas

if you bring cast iron, things like corn bread are easy, butter will keep a few days unrefrigerated in cooler temps or just make instant gravy

depending on the are you are and what your plans are, simple traps and snares will likely yield plenty of meat. fish traps are equally simple. go do you and come back early enough to skin dinner. bring some foil for easy cooking in a the coals

those laughing cow cheeses in the individual foil wrappers seem to keep a while and they are fucking delicious on the trail. usually I throw a packet of crackers in my jacket pocket at the trail head to snack on the first day with some cheese

if your pack isn't too tightly packed, oranges and apples make good trail snacks too. give me a burst of energy
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>>1182291
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>>1195705
Those are really fucking good. You can throw damn near anything in there too to beef it up a bit. I usually just throw in some green onions at least. The salt content helps to keep you hydrated and healthy too.
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>>1192110
The same food I eat at home. Same dishes too. Like actual chinaware. I use a rocket stove.
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>>1192110
one of these senpai:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIlQDgu0Cyg
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>>1192230
Berries are seasonal and fishing out of season will get you raped
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Just a Trangia.

After years of messing with weird stuff, high end dedicated burners and what not. I've settled on Trangia.

Completely compatible with 75 year old parts, easy repair ability, and not a company that boom and fade, it's just always there.

I have 2 trangia sets, one with a multi-fuel burner, one with gas (and two spare Alchoholburners, why not) And it has never critically failed me, or disappointed me. The longest i went with one, was around 60 days (with two breaks in villages) and it worked fine. Sure it's not the lightest, nor the fastest in the world, but it just works without any major downsides.

I've stopped felling for the meme burners, and are just using this, if not a fire, from now on.
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>>1192110
Chef Boyardee JUMBO ravioli
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>>1192110
>What kind of food do you bring on long backpacking trips?
I cook canned food in a wooden stove just like the one in your pic. It's easy as fuck, just put a tart in the fire and wait. Other thing I really like to cook are sausages. Just impale them with a sharpened stick and put it over the fire to enjoy a warm and tasty meal.
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Soylent. Best weight/energy/nutritional value ratios.
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>>1196490
The key is slicing it thin, and salt and having good a rack so it gets good air flow for the water to evaporate out of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfibYUjjcOw
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>>1192110
I buy freeze dried for the most part when backpacking. More costly but quick and easy. I do more actual cooking when car camping but on trails, I'd rather have a quick hot meal so I can spend more time fishing and exploring. I have considered doing my own dehydrated meals but I'm ok with paying for the convenience of grab and go with no extra cookware and no cleanup. Rinse my spoon and I'm done.
When it comes to stoves, I use an alcohol when I'm solo and a windburner when the wife and kiddo go. The windburner is bulky but it's quick to boil for more people and with the press attachment, makes a decent pot of coffee in the morning.
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>>1196846
Thanks anon! Anything else?
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>>1199644
Honestly, when I get bored of what I am eating on the trail, ill just wander through Walmart before my next trip looking for anything non perishable, things that are just add water, and things that don't need refrigeration after opening. obviously you can take pretty much any canned food and I do from time to time, but then you have a can to pack out and you are carrying around a bunch of extra water until you eat it. The possibilities are really endless. If you are so inclined to dehydrate or shop around for freeze dried items, you can pretty much eat anything on the trail, but I don't usually plan ahead that well. When I do, ill usually vacuum seal all my ingredients and seasoning for each meal so all I have to do is open a bag and dump everything in boiling water.
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>>1199680
That's what I need to look for, but I suck at planning shit like this. Right now I have some mac and cheese, ramen noodles, dehydrated instant mash potatoes, and some peanut butter for my next trip.
I need a dehydrator and vacuum sealer to be able to save weight and take a bunch more shit with me. Spaghetti is probably good but the tomatoe paste is the only issue, I assume I can dehydrate the sauce though.
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>>1199691
Fuck right off your good ideas for a maynute man.
If you dont enjoy doing this shit yourself, you might as well not bother.
Making your own jerkey is probably more expensive than just buying it outright, and its a god damn meme ration anyways since freeze dried goods became a thing.

So, venerated special forces like the S.A.S go behind enemy lines all the time for operations. You know what they bring for sustenance? Not beef jerky. Freeze dried shit, and they dont even hydrate it with boiling water, they eat it cold.
You cant beat the nutritional value of it.
Pluss, it comes in bags where you dont have to clean plates.
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>>1192413

>PNW where they don't know what sunlight is.

Yeah.
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>>1196834

They're made for survival, dumbfuck.
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>>1192110
I've only been on day hikes so far, but when I start going on longer trips I'm planning on bringing these.

>Peanut butter
>Tortillas
>Jelly packets
>Biltong (I make it at home)
>Trail mix
>Oatmeal packets
>Dried fruit
>Shelf stable bacon
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>>1201470
Are you ok? Perhaps you're retarded. Freeze dried food is good, but it's a meme and expensive. The military has an unlimited budget, I don't.
And I am definitely not spending a couple hundred on food for every /out/ trip I take.
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>>1196490
The meat is cured (cooked) before the drying process, which prevents it from going rancid. Otherwise jerky wouldn't really be a thing
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>>1201558
And good food is made for enjoyment.
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>>1196038
What's the shelf life on these? I wanna keep some in my car and my backpack.
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El cheapo, folding reusable esbit stove. tablets are cheap and do a good job. I wanna say mountain house for cheap MREs, but there could be much cheaper much better ones. i don't know
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Where do I get MRE-like jalapeño cheese spread, or bacon cheese spread
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Trangia Meths stove with a little steel frame and windbreak. 10% water in the meths.

Spam in plastic pack.
Beans likewise.
Nuts and raisins
Reeses cups
PB and Nutella in squeeze tubes (fill your own)
Mortadella sausage
Coffee whitener (fattiest / most calorific available) and instant coffee in zip loc bags.
Jerky
Dried mac and cheese sachets (gross but light)
Those Tuna/salmon snack meals in the foil containers are pretty handy too.
Tinned fish put into freezer bags is great too.
Gels if you're doing some serious walking and don't want to drop your pack to get shit out.

Basically any light and highly calorific trash is the idea, with care taken to include protein, enough carbs, electrolytes, vits and not *too much* sodium. This is not a long term diet...
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>>1203130
yeah but that stove and pan weigh more than everything I carry and what would I do with all that oil
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>>1192172
Las Vegas is in the Desert, they have berries right? They must have a market to trade maybe.
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>>1196038
I bet you would start dry gagging just looking at them on day 10
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>>1196038
lol
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>>1199507

That's why you make jelly or dehydrate those berries. You can fish year round in AZ :)
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>>1203239
the only berries that grow in vegas are dingle berries
they grow in mass at casino gaming floors
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>>1192110

Tinned tuna/meat and bars for longer trips. No need to cook and little room.

I cook shit in foil otherwise. Potatoes and sausages in the fire.
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>>1192110
Depend on who I /out/ with. If I go with someone who know how to forage, I will pack only dry fish-chili dip and some rice.
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Figure its better to ask this here instead of making a new thread.

What are some good cheeses to take camping, ie. refrigeration not required?
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>>1203240
day 10? masochist. I wouldn't last 5 days I don't think. id also make a snare on day 2 and catch tasty critters
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>>1192137
>what are seasons
>what are continents

gl finding tubers or berries round here fag




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