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#212-“Crankbaits Still Suck” Edition

Have you tried a Strike King™ KVD™ Swim’n Caffeine Shad™? Diving crankbaits are almost as big a meme as ice fishing.

Previous Thread:
>>1196673

Thinking about picking up a new hobby? Want to get a memecaster? Haven't mastered the Palomar knot? Click here!
http://www.pastebin.com/u/fishingandtackle
https://imgur.com/a/1Xw3N

Talk about fishin
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>>1200980
What happens if you catch a fish which identifies as another species (such as a stoat or a condor)? Does that species it identifies as have to be in season / have a tag for it?
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I ordered a concept z. Should be here around Friday. Ordered some other neat lures too.

>>1200980
Keitech Easy Shiners are better.
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>>1200993
it only matters in newyork and california
>>1200994
let me know how you like the concept z
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I feel like he normal sized rooster tails are too big
I keep getting hits but never land anything
Or maybe it’s just to early in the season for spinners
I don’t catch shit
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>>1201029
buy some tiny, and i mean tiny, jig heads like 1/32 at biggest, that look like pic related (note the lack of the lead or wire bit just behind the jig head that helps keep the soft plastic on) and some 1 inch gulp flukes, they usually come in a little jar. put them under a bobber that just barely floats them, and dead drift them in rivers, and in lakes slowly twitch them in. this time of the year you want them close to the bottom
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>>1201033
>>1201029
these are the ones you dont want, note the lead that holds on the soft plastic. those will split the gulp minnows and make them useless
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>>1201029
>>1201033
>>1201035
and heres what the minnows come in. i really like the smelt colour personally
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>>1201029
Get some Mepps 0 and 00.

>>1201038
The shit in those tiny jars is good for UL fishin too. Get on some 1/32oz (or are they 1/64? Can’t remember) jigheads with the tiny minnows or curly tail grubs.
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Hey benis what are some good florida topwater lures?
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>>1201234
Idk, I never do great on topwater. If I run frogs over lillies, I get a bunch of small guys. Buzzbaits have gotten a strike or two from sneks but that’s about it. The best producer has been the Rapala Skitter Pop, especially in the brown frog color. The firetiger Skitter Pop got me a handful too.
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>>1200950
I use mine for speed jigging. I've seen guys shore fishing them but casting sucks so you have to use a shuttle or ride your baits out. they still turn in the rod holder so you'd need to bungie the reel handle to keep orientated. pay close attention to where the spine is on the blank you're wrapping. mark all the positions and use the reference chart.

>>1200994
I just emailed my boy about having one dipped. I'm going with the graphite look instead.

>>1201234
you only need this one.. it's my most productive topwater. (see pic)
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>>1200980
should have been the Spoons a meme edition
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>>1201402
That looks like the things that one Asian anon said they use for snakheads. He was posting pics of some frog colored ones.

I'm not sure what happened to that anon. He only posted a few times and it was funny because I guess sneks are sportfish there so it's like bass in popular spots here where you get mostly young ones and he was really impressed since they get lots of 10"-12" bullseye snakeheads while I'm getting 20"+ regularly out of the Florida canals.

>>1201405
#213
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Any tips for lure fishing salt water?
I've ordered some inline spinners and I've got a few soft plastics but haven't caught a single thing yet
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>>1201484
>I've ordered some inline spinners
>for saltwater
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I'm looking to get back into fishing this year. I haven't been in around 10 years and I have almost no gear atm so I'm looking to put together a cheap basic tackle box. What are some of the must have lures I should buy for bass and crappie fishing? I live in north mississippi and pretty much all the water around here is dirty.

I already went ahead and bought a pfleuger president spinning reel and an abu garcia blackmax baitcaster with some cheap berkley cherrywood hd rods to get me started
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>>1201505
If I was fishing dirty water in missippi I’d probably stick to darker colored lures so they stand out in the water more. For bass I’d try bladed jigs like a chatterbait, Texas rigged or Carolina rigged soft plastic stick baits (think senko), top water I’d go either spro hollow body frog if you’re fishing cover or a heddon spook if open water. Crank baits and jerkbaits properly sized and rated for the water depth in which you plan to fish always work.

For crappie you don’t really need too much of an arsenal considering it’s often most effective to use live or dead bait either by itself on an appropriately sized hook or paired with a jig or small jigging spoon. Personally I’ve never had much luck doing this but I always see the try hards using micro soft plastics on their jigs and they do just fine. Sometimes the smaller the lure the more they are willing to bite so when you’re at the tackle shop or where ever you plan on going to get lures look for the smallest weighted jig hooks (1/62-1/124) you can find. Marabou jigs work well too sometimes
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>>1201529
thanks. would chrome lures do well in dirty/stained waters as well or should i just stick to black/blue and chartreuse/white for colors?
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>>1201599
depends on the cloud cover. If its a bright and sunny day then yeah but if its overcast stick to the real dark colors
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>>1201402
Have you used it yet?
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>>1201484
johnson sprite and kastmaster spoon in 1/4oz+ and you will be golden.
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>spent 3 hours bass fishing and got skunked
>stopped by the pier before going home and caught 2 spanish mackerels in 30 minutes
At least I caught something before having to go back to work
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>>1201484
Depends, where are you fishing?
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Texfag here. Redfish still around. Waiting for these spring rains to clear and water to go above 60F so we can get more species.

Also would you fags be interested in me making some basic sw fishing how-tos. I can put some unlisted ones on a youtube.
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>>1201640
>Also would you fags be interested in me making some basic sw fishing how-tos. I can put some unlisted ones on a youtube.
Yes do it.
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>>1201630
>tfw pepsi still thinks salt is a meme
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Sup fellas! For my birthday, I got a Diawa BG2500 reel and a Bass Pro gift card to choose a rod. The primary use for this combo will be bass and panfish. Is the Ugly Stik GX2 a good rod? Not really sure what's out there, as I've just been using shitty pre-packaged combos up to this point...

As my skills progress, hopefully I'll be able to pick my next combo with asking such newb questions :)

Any ideas you have are greatly appreciated!
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>>1201640
Hopefully this will be me in two weeks

>>1201690
Get a better rod than an uglystik. What's your budget?
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>>1201704
$100 range would be great.
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>>1201690
>Diawa BG2500
solid reel
and i second the curiosity on budget (though we at least know its a minimum of $40
if your budget is $40 i'd still say get something like a berkley lighting rod instead of an uglystik or a shimano stimula (it's a 20 dollar rod but it is actually pretty solid) and a spool of power pro.
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>>1201714
>>1201709
oh if you can go up to 100 get a fenwick silverhawk, i really like mine.with a 2500 i'd say get a medium or medium light rod
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>>1201709
I think bass pro shops branded rods are a good choice in that price range. Limitless options, great quality for the money.
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>>1201709
If I were you Id go to bass pros website and set the filter settings to set the max price at 100 and browse through all the options. Come back here with which ones you like and well let you know if its worth getting or not
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>>1201716
>>1201714
>>1201709
fugg i turned my trip off to post in a bicycle thread and forgot to turn it back on
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>>1201714
>>1201716
>>1201719
>>1201720
Right on, checking through their options now.
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>>1200980
How do you tell the difference between spots and dink largemouths?

What is this?
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>>1201704
Want to show me some fishing spots around corpus this late April?
I probably won't have shit for gear (litterally nothing since I'm flying in )
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>>1201746
Snakehead anon, hope you killed it.
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>>1201746
>look at the tongue
>if it is smooth, its a largie
>if it is not smooth (i.e. has teeth) is is a spotted bass

>close it's mouth and look
>if the mouth extends to the eye it is a spot
>if it extends past it is a largie

>the front and back dorsal fin is barely connected on largies
>spots have a front and rear dorsal fin that is more connected
>pic related

>pic related
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>>1201795
wait why is this picture labled "largie vs smallie"? i gotta go fix something
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>>1201709
Abu Garcia Vendetta or Bass Mojo rod by St. Croix
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>>1201630
>>1201673
>stopped by the dink pond for 45min
>6 largemouth and a nice Mayan
It’s early February. You have to try not to catch bass.
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>>1201709
Shimano clarus/compre
Fenwick hmx or silverhawk
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>>1201800
i always thought shimano rods were memes
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>>1201816
Shimano makes good stuff (my hand me down reel lasted from 1980s until when it got ran over by my cousin) , but I've never used their rods
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>>1201709
Really most rods in that range will be good. Just pick one you like and make sure it has good reviews.

>>1201754
I don't know if I'll be down. I live about 6 hours away. If I am I'd show you some spots, but I couldn't promise you there'd be fish there lol. I'm not the best saltwater angler.
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>>1201795
Skid you made me question my entire largemouth fishing career. Everyone I know around here calls these largemouth. Is it because I'm North of the Mason-Dixon line?
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>>1201816
>>1201816
Their rods is aesthetic and it feels fine to me. They also used to have lifetime warranty but now it’s only limited. They are willing to take in a broken rod out of warranty and replace a new one at half price though. Just don’t fall for their “specific rod that match up with this specific reel for this specific lure meme”
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>>1201800
Oh yea and I forgot about fenwick hmg too if you want a tier just above hmx
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>>1201816
shimemo is actually really good
>>1201837
it looks like a largie to me. see how the mouth goes behind the eye?
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My cousin just caught a 9.3lbs bass, my biggest is a 5.6.
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>>1201866
tell both the people in that picture that they look like the kind of asshole who is in college and 24 but still goes to highschool parties

nice fish though
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>>1201877
Him and his friend are like 14, I can't even talk shit to him, after pulling this big fuck in a kayak
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>>1201837
That's a large mouth. The jaw extends well behind the jaw. That's the legal definition in most places. Also you gotta look for the rough patch on the tongue. Spots and largemouth can cross breed tho so it very well could be a hybrid and that's why it has the patterning.

>>1201843
>specific rod that match up with this specific reel for this specific lure meme”
It's not really a meme tho. Certain rods are better for different lures.

>>1201877
>not wanting highschool pussy
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>>1201914
Well behind the eye***
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>>1201850
They must have pretty good QC on the 40 rods they make each year. Can't say I've ever seen a shimano rod that didn't come on a cheap combo and I have seen many rods in my day
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>>1201918
how far are you from the nearest ocean?
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>>1201925
roughly 400 miles
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is there somewhere cheaper than amazon to buy lures online?
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>>1201929
You can get cheap ones off aliexpress at your own risk. Chinashit quality is not quite the 1997 mcdonalds toy's it used to be and is definitely fishable, sometimes even amazing. Just don't buy anything without reviews.
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>>1201932
nice, didn't think to check there
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>>1201936
disadvantages of aliexpress
>being shipped by boat 30-60 days
>sometimes misleading/ straight up lying descriptions
>sometimes unintelligible/ no description
>hard to decipher good deals without relying on reviews

Advantages
>price is pretty much 50%-99% off USA retail prices
that's what retail is, buying shit in bulk and slapping a bigger price tag on it
>paypal buyer protection can refund you if it isn't the item you bought
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>>1201939
yeah i used to use aliexpress a bit to sample chinkshit to resell on ebay and amazon. they froze my account and want me to send them photos of my drivers license and shit tho to verify my identity and i never got around to it. guess i'll go ahead and do it tomorrow because i'm tired of getting my $10 kvd brand crankbaits snagged
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>>1201928
that might be it. shimano seems to be more common on the coast, i can't think of a tackle shop on the outer banks that didn't at least have a shimano tiagra on display somewhere
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>>1201914
Yea certain rods are better for specific types of lures but shimano went a step further and release a brand new rod line for every new lure they release out there. You have waxwing rod for waxwing jig. You have coltsniper rod for coltsniper jig. You have lucanus rod for lucanus jig, etc... Then shimano have rod line that name after specific reel series. Then they have a more general naming scheme after type of fishing and region (this makes more sense). This sum up to like hundred of different rod line and series with all sort of different marketing theme. It’s just kind of funny to me. In the end, they are solid products even if the shilling seems to be over the top and out of hand.
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>>1201945
The tiagra is a reel? Shimano reels are everywhere. I use a stradic and it's top notch, also have a sedona that doesn't get used much anymore but it still solid. Just not the rods. I don't see shimano rods.
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>>1201969
Shimano rods are typically in tackle shop, not generic sporting goods store.
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>>1201969
yeah the tiagra is a reel, but i do see rods in shops, but usually its just 1 or 2 here or there, nothing like the penn or daiwa selection, i think rods are mostly special ordered from them or purchased online. i've personally only used the cheap ones out of curiosity but they're surprisingly solid. if you're ever getting a kid their first combo and dont want to get them an ugly stick shimano is a good option because i've used 2 of their rods (the stimula, a spinning rod, and an fx c-70mb, a casting rod) both were $20 or under and both are surprisingly solid. the casting rod i acutally used successfully with #40 braid and i only managed to break it because i decided to deliberately see how much it could take, and it took quite a bit.
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Went fishing yesterday without checking the wind...5-6 beaufort on my back, while I would do some awesomely long casts zero jig control but I caught a properly sized qt calamari that will be seared with wine fresh onions and served tapas style with some ouzo.
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>>1201978
The only big store I go to is cabelas I avoid cock's. There's several local tackle shops around here I visit. Still, shimano isn't a rod I've seen people using and their rods don't have amazing reviews. Their game is gears and moving parts.
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>>1202012
From shore yes but they do have some of the best boat rods. I use the beast master cx jigging for heavy vertical jigging and live bait and it works like a charm. Ofc I have to agree that the best spinning reel is the Stella and in general I am just dumbfounded how they can be so technologically advanced when it comes to size/weight versus drag but when it comes to multipliers Daiwa's Saltiga is plainly the superior choice especially if you are looking for light, vertical or slow jerk reels. Plus look at the pic I love their clear cut industrial styled designs, now if I only had 1000 dolaridoos to get it...
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>>1202009
>serving it tapas style with ouzo and wine
>not battering and deep frying it and making squid rings and onion rings and eating them from the same container so its a surprise as to which you're getting each time
it's like you have no class
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>>1202026
>skid
>class
My sides...
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>>1202028
i mean i'm not the one who traded fishing for shower head
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>>1202030
nigga wut? shower head?
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>>1202026
I love your plebian ameriburger ways man!Will do next time I get more than one and I will serve it with sour cream for maximum freedom accompanied by a bud light. Here is the finished product I had some salmon, also ocra!
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>>1202031
he was talking last night about some chick giving him a BJ in the shower
>>1202040
honestly im just fucking with you, what you said and posted looks tasty. if you do do it though skip out on the piss beer, get something good.
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>>1202045
No man I really liked the idea, here in Greece the traditional way is deep-fried meze (Greek tapas) on a pan battered only with flour and usually accompanied by tzatziki sauce and lemon to cool them down as you eat them piping hot. Adding some onion rings and substituting the tzatziki for some sour cream with chives (at least in theory sound delicious).
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>>1202047
honestly i'd say keep the tzaziki and lemon.
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>>1202040
maximum comfy
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>>1202030
It was bretty gud tho. Got all soapy with her too and played slip n slide. Then we dried off and went to the bed.

I got my fishin in (finally).

A big part of it is work fuckin everything up. I used to be off by 3:00, so I could get to the lake by 4:30 and get an hour or two at dusk on weekdays. But now that shit is all messed up and I’m getting stuck there til 5pm lots of days.
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>>1202083
>pic related
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>>1201795
>The filename
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>>1202103
yeah i botched that when i saved it
>that meme
funny though in some ways that could be switched
>largemouth chad
>willing to eat anything
>conserves its energy so it can fight you better on the boat
>doesn't need to migrate, ladies and food come to it
>eats anything that pisses it off
smallmouth virgin
>needs clean water because it has asthma
>eyes are red because any amount of anything irritates it
>picky eater
>panicks when it gets hooked
>literal shitskin fish
>moves constantly because it can't hold down a job
>probably autistic
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>>1201495
Inline spinners work perfectly fine in salt water
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>>1201950
Ah okay yeah I see what you're saying. I thought you were saying there wasn't a difference between crank bait and Texas rig rods or something.

>>1202021
>Ofc I have to agree that the best spinning reel is the Stella

I honestly don't see how it can be worth $1400. What makes it $1,000 better than a $400 reel?
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>>1200980
>tfw you have probably 200 bucks worth of hardbaits and haven't caught a fish with half of them.
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>>1202189
I probably have $200 worth of hardbaits that have never been in the water.
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>>1202204
It's more than $200...
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>>1202189
>>1202204
I'll give you a dollar for every one you don't want
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>>1202189
I see
>x-raps
>squarebills
>wiggle warts
>redeye lipless

If you haven't caught fish on those then this sport isn't for you.
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>>1202251
Kek that's true. When I said "Probably", I wanted to edit and say "definitely" or maybe add an extra zero.

I still have a bunch of Yo Zuris with the green twist ties on the hooks.

>>1202283
Nah I promise I will use them one day!

I was throwing a 1/4oz Red Eye Shad yesterday for the first time since I bought it around Xmas and did bretty gud on it.
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>>1201669
Ill try to shit one together tonight. Pic unrelated. Just a trumpet fish I caught in maui on a shrimp imitation.
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>>1201640
>>1201669
>>1202304
We tried that for the Pastebin before but everybody said there's too many different types and it's hard to do a general one. And if Skid makes it, it will be completely useless and take you 3 hours to read.
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>>1202320
it's not my fault i'm autistic
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>>1202320
Im just going to make like 5 min videos at my desk on some fundamentals. Going to start with rod and reel selection first. Then line and basic rigging/leaders in another vid. Then some rigs in a third video. And finally natural/ artificial baits in a final video.
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>>1200980
What's a decent cheap memecaster rod that I can throw jigs and weighted plastics on?
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>>1202298
The X-raps and the Wigglewarts are the only thing that ever produce. IDK the deal with the Red Eye Shads are, but I don't catch dick on them, only luck I ever have with lipless is that firetiger Yo-Zuri.

And admittedly, I just bought the 2 squarebills, I haven't even used them yet.
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>>1202327
define "cheap"? cheap for some people is $20, cheap for others is $100
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>>1202331
50-100 range maybe
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>>1202342
i imagine a mh 7 foot fenwick silverhawk would serve well for all those plus frogs
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>>1202349
>fenwick silverhawk
but muh bionic blade
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Got skunked today but made friends with a fellow fag on the water. He caught pic related

Might try again Wednesday when it will be warm as fuck out
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>I'm over the age of 12 and I fish with in-line spinners
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>>1202330
Spring and fall are when you throw the lipless. They like that tight wobble in colder water.
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>>1202394
Kek.

Reminded me of the intro to this video
https://youtu.be/qNFaPf8StEk
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are these lures any good?
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>>1201690
I just picked up a 6'6" UL and a 7' L from BPS
https://www.basspro.com/shop/en/bass-pro-shops-micro-lite-graphite-spinning-rod

They have a ML which is the lightest I'd go with that reel and targeting bass.

Love the feel of these. Hoping to wet a line tomorrow if ponds don't ice over tonight.
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>>1202416
Skid things they’re great. I don’t think he has ever used them for fishing though.

>>1202394
There’s “in-line spinners” and then there’s “Mepps™“. It’s a whole different level.

>>1202357
Those aren’t bad if you get em on sale or get a deal for the combo. But at $79, hold it next to an Abu Vendetta and you will want the Abu.
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this is best fishing knife?
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>>1202426
Yes. But I also carry pic related because when walking from the car to the shoreline, I also want the best survival knife.
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>>1202421
>They have a ML which is the lightest I'd go with that reel and targeting bass.

I don't think I'll ever buy smaller than a 2500 reel again no matter what power rod it's going on. Smaller reels make your casting distance so much worse. I'd personally rather deal with a little bit of an unbalanced rod and have that extra casting distance.
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>>1202426
Or you could by a Leatherman and a Mora and have something that's not complete cheapshit.
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>>1202431
the fork goes right into the arse
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Does anyone know good gloves that will still let me cast a memecaster?
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>>1202454
You lookin for warmth? That’s gonna be tough. They make the hobo mittens but the thumb is normally still covered. I think you should just go for some thin work gloves because they will warm you up a little bit (at least keep the wind off ya) and still let you function for the most part.
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>>1202454
>Texas
>gloves

What are you some type of faggot or something?
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>>1202456
my hobo mittens have an uncovered thumb. I usually wear them while steelhead fishing and have a heavier glove on my off hand.
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>>1202456
Yeah. I mean I have gloves just not any that would be feasible to use with a casting reel. Maybe I should just switch over to spinning when it's cold lol.

>>1202463
I mean it's 40 degrees here on a windy ass lake. My hands are cold.
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>>1202483
>40
>cold

Get a load of Nancy over here
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>>1202445
I've never found that but also haven't tested. I use the setups so differently. I will admit that other than light stuff I abuse the 2500 on a 6'0 ML
Fresh to way pushing weight limit on salt.
Maybe I'll load a 2500 w/ 4# mono and do a side by side. Now you've got me curious.
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>see nothing but high 40s low 30s in the forecast for the rest of month

Winters almost over lads. The spawn has almost begun. Peak fishing is just around the corner

My PP is hard
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>>1202503
>mfw 52 and sunny on Wednesday when I hit that warm water spillway

Speaking of, the water will probably be cleared up by then and about 60 degrees. Will my Wiggle Warts serve me well or should I pick up something more subtle, like a Rapala DT or Shad Rap, before I go?
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>>1202503
>see nothing but high 40s low 30s in the forecast for the rest of month
pretty much same here. Warm spell over the weekend melted everything but one strong front from the west could push it to single digits.
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>>1202508
I know Ive been eyeing the temps for Wednesday all week. Trying to decide if I want to ice fish or steelhead fish. Both will be comfy as fuck in those temps
>>1202509
projected forcasts for my area have us staying about the same temp for the rest of the month and beyond with a few days sprinkled in where it will dip a bit.

Sooner the ice melts the better imo. I need to catch me a musky asap
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>>1202485
It's cold for me mang. Im used to 100 degrees and less wind.

>>1202486
It's worth a shot. It does really depend on how you use it too. If max casting distance isn't a big deal then there's no reason to go bigger. I just prefer to have the extra distance if I need it. It's really noticeable on my light rod when I use a 1500 vs 2500 size reel.

But that rod is really only used in creeks for panfish and dink bass, so I keep the little reel on it.
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People in the southwest are dumb.

I went to Phoenix one winter, it was in the mid 60s the whole time and all of the locals were wearing wool caps, gloves, and jackets. It was fucking baffling.
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>>1202548
They just aren't adapted to cold. Kind of like how the first time the temperature hits 50 in the fall it feels cold as shit on your summer skin. Takes a few weeks for it to feel normal. I would probably have a heat stroke in the 112 degree summer weather in Phoenix.
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>>1202548
i work out of state sometimes and my laugh my fucking ass off when guys bitch about the weather being hot (low 80s, low humidity) when they've never worked in LA in the high 90s with 90% humidity.
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https://youtu.be/LCesNe8sQTU

It is too long. I'm going to try harder to keep them under 7 minutes. I think that is a better length for the subjects discussed.

Next vid whenever I have time will be line and leader selection. I think 4 minutes will be fair.
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noob here, gonna try fishing a river this weekend. Wish me luck fellas
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>>1202561

I know what you mean, man. I was stationed in Louisiana during my stint in the Army. I was doing month long field exercises in 105F heat + 95% humidity during the summers. I'm originally from North Dakota, which barely gets above 80F. Shit was absolutely miserable.
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>>1202757
good luck
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>>1202757
try slow moving spinners. fish the slower/still spots
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>>1202757
What are you fishing for? If you're fishing from the bank for bass or something try bringing a couple extra rods and throw out some liver or a worm for catfish while you fish for bass to increase your chances of catching fish
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>>1202793
that's how my first fishing rod ended up at the bottom of a reservoir
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>>1202794
yea i normally bring a folding chair or something and position the rods so that they cant go in without pulling the whole chair in. i also have a bunch of cheap old zebco 33 combos i use for it
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>>1202799
pleb
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rate my trout
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>>1202814
tiny/ten
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>>1202814
You should try to avoid catching smolts. They are rather fragile at that stage and a hook through the top of the mouth can easily give them a lethal infection.
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>>1202814
this is bait
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Is this akin to a fishing general on 4chan? Sorry, never been on this board before. Any good resources for how to clean a fish? Whenever I look on youtube for best way to clean x fish there will always be a chap in the comments saying this method is terrible or whatever. I would like to learn the right way from the start.
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>>1201932
This. Ali is great for cheap lures. As stated, some of it is utter crap, some of it is great. At the low price I can swallow the loss if I buy crap. Their buyer protection is great though (see below).
>>1201939
>sometimes misleading/ straight up lying descriptions
Thats where buyer protection kicks in. If you buy something that says, for instance, yellow, 15cm and 25grams and you receive some item being 5cm, white and weighing 100g you can usually get your money back fairly easy (you mention this yourself).
But yeah, sometimes deciphering what you are buying can be tricky.
Beware that quality can be hit and miss too. I've had chink hooks I could straighten out by hand with no effort. Same witch swivels and rings being bend out of shape just from tightening a knot.

Reminds me I gotta sift through my unsorted boxes of bits and pieces and see what I am mising in terms of float stops, hooks, rings, beads, split shots etc.

>>1201484
Where are you fishing and what are you targeting?

>>1201495
Spinners work in salt as well. No idea why people almost never use them in salt. Casting range perhaps? And ofc. it depends on the species.

>>1202204
Even worse when you have those $200 of pristine, virgin lures and you still consider spending another $200 on lures you feel like you 'absolutely need'.

>>1202426
Looks like yet another 'jack of all trades, master of none' type of deal... or am I being baited?

>>1202454
>buy decent gloves that does what you want (warmth, wind, whatever)
>cut off the thumb
>???
>profit
Else, thin work gloves. I have some thin, thin work gloves covered with rubber on fingers and palm. Keeps my fingers both dry and protected from wind. Hand of back if unprotected though.

>>1202822
underrated.
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>>1202831
>Is this akin to a fishing general on 4chan?
Yes.
>Any good resources for how to clean a fish?
Plenty of soap and elbow grease.
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>>1202426
this actually looks pretty legit. That reaphook looks really convenient for gutting fish. Scaler is nice. Sharpener is probably a meme. Bottle opener is nice because I always drink a few beers while cleaning fish. 420 main blade is nice because I don't want something too hard that isn't easy to sharpen. Everything else looks like a meme tho. Still useful as fuck.
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>>1202177
I have fished once on a charter in Jordan with a 5000 Stella vertical jigging in the Red Sea; It had the smoothest motherfucking drag I be ever felt, I could feel a fucking 200gr jig rigged on pe 4.5 being teased by a swordfish 160mtrs down almost the same way I feel my ultra light 30gr slow jigs on a 0.6 pe braid also being about 150- 200gr lighter and having the same massive breaking power that my cheap 8000 okuma has made it easier keep on jigging with way less effort after the 3 hour mark where I usually get sore from jerking one kilo set up up and down. Also my educated guess would be that you would also have more control in lighter set ups like light jigging or slow jigging where feeling the jig is the A and Ω of said techniques. Tho ofc I do consider it a niche luxury aimed at rich Japanese fishing otakus and commercial charters, as my stradik performs perfectly in the same conditions and doesn't cost my firstborn and an arm, also advancements in braid (dat suffix power line has almost double pounds in breaking strength in the same pe than any non commercial braids in the current market) fluoro,jig tech(tungsten and hybrid metalworking and rod tech (dat banocarbon filament tech)do make fishing easier without the need for such a luxury item.
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>>1202426
i'm willing to bet that whoever invented this has literally never been fishing, ans instead walked through the fishing/hunting section of walmart and wrote down all the little bullshit tools they had and built a knife that had all of them
>small reap hook
literally no filet knife has one and literally no one has ever wanted one
>bottle opener
you can open a bottle just fine with the spine of a normal knife, you don't need one
>small fork
for what? you dont need a fork, and you definately dont need one built in to your knife, all you need is a pointy stick, if you're weeb-ish you can use two pointy sticks
>serrations
has potential but if your knife is sharp you should be able to cut rope and nets and shit just fine regardles, it just makes that part of the blade harder to sharpen
>threader grove
i've literally never seen or heard of anyone ever actually using the real one's of those, and they've made it worse because now instead of fiddling with a hook and line, now you're fiddling with a hook, line, and a sharp knife than you're holding by the blade
>daimond sharpener
"hey lets give them a daimond sharpener so they can sharpen their knife and their hooks"
"but let's glue it in the handle so they don't lose it"
"but wont that make them unable to sharpen the knife with it?"
"nah"
>the steel
it's okay, it is reasonably corrosion resistand and reasonably hard, but i feel like i'd rather they went with something like H-1 for more corrosion resistance
>needle
hey lets put a big square hole right next to a few inherent weak points
(granted it's not a knife made for batoning wood but still, you can clear hook eyes with, get this, another hook)
>>1202361
decent chrome right there. good luck on wednesday
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>>1202814
interesting colours/10
>>1202831
that's going to be on any video. i'll go over the basics of the two different basic ways
>pan dressing
>scale the fish
>cut the fins off
>cut the head off
>cut from the butt hole up to the neck
>gut the fish
>cook it
that's for small fish. you pick the bones out as you eat
>filleting
>ideally you killed/bled the fish when it was caught
>make a vertical cut from near the top of the head to behind the pectoral fin (the fin on the side)
>go until you hit the spine
>starting at the top of the fish, make a small score, just barely 1/4 inch deep, following along the bones to get as much meat as possible
>go all the way to the tail
>lifting the fillet and wiping the knife down regularly as you work, gently cut down until you reach the spine
>once you do, the back half of the fish can be seperated in one go by poking the blade through until it comes out the bottom, and slicing down to the tail
this is where the two methods divide in to the so called "canadian" method and the so called "american" method (those are just the terms i read in the book i learned from) and i'll start with the canadian method, which i usually do on smaller fish like bluegill crappie and perch
>keep cutting until you get to the rib bones
>cut through the rib bones like some kind of barbarian
>remove the filet, then cut the ribs out once it's removed

american method
>keep cutting until you get to the ribs
>carefully cut up and follow the ribs
>remove the fillet
>use tweezers and your fingers to feel and pull out the pin bones

then this is where both of them reuinite
>lay the filet skin down so the tail part is towards you
>use your finger nails to pin the skin to your cutting board
>use your knife to carefully cut the skin from the meat

here is the biggest advice i can give you for filleting fish: have a sharp knife, and wipe it down often, i keep my knife shaving sharp, and a clean knife gives a clean cut.
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as expected temps dropped to 20's overnight and now water is crusty again. Dammit
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>>1202965
On the bright side only one day out of the next two weeks will be below 40 (At least for me). Should be nice seeing as we still have 18 inches of ice to work with on the lake
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>>1202879
I think it's less of a filet knife and more of a secondary cleaning knife.
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>>1201625
>Have you used it yet?

yeah, ordered during the black friday sales.
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>>1202975
>18" of ice
yeah, no. That is rare here without driving inland. I have ocean 2-3 miles north and south of me and most of the 300+ ponds are kettles fed from below so we usually don't get safe ice. Very common to get a week of single digit temps followed by 50's in Jan/Feb.
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10 weeks still until the real fun starts
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>>1202867
>Tho ofc I do consider it a niche luxury aimed at rich Japanese fishing otakus and commercial charters, as my stradik performs perfectly in the same conditions and doesn't cost my firstborn and an arm

That's kind of what I was thinking. I'm sure the Stella is one of the best performing spinning reels, but I feel like the gap in quality compared to other reels when it first came out was a lot larger than now. It's one of those things that I'd buy if I could drop the money for it, but I wouldn't save up for it.

>>1203005
How do you think it compares to other reels in its price range?

>>1203008
Is that fairly consistent every year?
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>>1203074
>consistent every year
within a week or 2. The 1st schoolies should show up early April
The bigguns mid-May
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>>1202987
even still though. those gut hooks are almost never sharp, and even when they are they dont stay sharp for long
the fork tip is still bullshit
the serrations are bullshit
the threader grove is bullshit
the sharpener is a good idea executed poorly
the scaling tool is a good idea done poorly
and the bottle opener is the only real redeeming quality, it's more of a tricked out bottle opener than a knife imo
>>1203008
>>1203078
i wouldn't mind getting some of those stripers, i still have a 10 wt and a bunch of striper flies. i'm not sure about my new line on my 8 weight but it should be good
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>>1203074
truthfully...there are better reels for the money but..I do like the fact that there are no bearings to corrode just a plastic washer to replace.
It should work well on the yak. It throws smooth enough (my curado casts further) and the drag is beefed enough to muscle fish away from the kelp. I dont particularly like the gearing, you can hear a slight grind. I pulled it apart and the guts are quality but the noise is kind of off putting to me kind of hoping it'll smooth out with use, but then again I'm spoiled. I paid $179 on sale with free delivery so I think its a good deal for new shiny, wouldve been better priced at $150 though.
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>>1203089
>tricked out bottle opener

KeKd...
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>>1203107
>that fly
i have a strange feeling that two feathers and some dumbell eyes tied to a hook like the one you just posted will outfish the amazingly sculpted and carefully made sculpins i see in fly tying groups so often. i mean look at it, it's a perfect little sculpin. if you put the eyes both on the same side of the stem, too it would be a perfect little flounder
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>>1203106
I'm gonna compare it to my Curado since they'll both have 30lb braid on it. Glad everything looks solid. Hopefully it'll last as long as they claim.

>I paid $179 on sale with free delivery so I think its a good deal for new shiny, wouldve been better priced at $150 though.

Yeah I feel like they upped the price because of the whole zero bearings meme. Mine should be in by Friday so I'll play with it this weekend.
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>>1201402
shit i didn't see this reply.
yeah, i was planning on paddling out baits with it, because the baits i'd be fishing would be uncastable anyways. i do know about the spine, too, but what's the reference chart?also any reccomendations on parts? like, i know i want a gimball butt, and an acid twist, and i also found a nice infinity blank that gator glass makes for ~ 70 bucks, it's 6 feet long.
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Check out this tiny jig I got. Rage craw for reference.

Also the Doomsday tackle C-Shad looks neat. I'm not a huge fan of that color, but it's all TW had.

>>1203147
The guides you buy will have a reference chart with them, or online somewhere, for spacing. At least that's what I assume he's meaning.
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>>1202718
Since no one else is saying anything, I appreciate it. I just bought into inshore fishing at the end of last year and the number of products are kinda overwhelming so it's good to get some input.
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>>1203181
The smaller the jig the more success I’ve had. I like using the tiny little chunks of soft plastic with two crawfish like arms hanging off the back like pic related. Makes for a really compact presentation
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>>1203191
>The smaller the jig the more success I’ve had
Me too. I wish I would've gotten a little heavier as this is 1/16oz, but worst case it'll slay slab pafish and crappies. Next time I make an order I'm def gonna get some more in different colors. I also picked up some 3/16oz finnese jigs and I think they'll do work when paired with a baby rage craw.

I don't really like using chunks though. I prefer to use a regular craw bait and cut it down if I need to. For this guy I think I'll use some little twin tail grubs.
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>>1203197
>>1203181
>>1203191
the only jig that has ever worked for me was a 1/8 ounce finesse jig i got at wallmart. a booyah something or other
>>1203181
oh the guides come with a chart/have a chart somewhere?
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I've recently run out of cork and balsa wood for luremaking.
But the preparation for the next season can never stop, and there is always new materials to try out.
I recently retired an old black plastic cutting board, and I am wondering if anyone here has experience in "second hand" plastic as material.

I've tried it with my knives and they bite into it easily. But it rounds up and fuzzes up with sandpaper, both coarse and fine have same result. On the positive side it can be heated and molded fairly easily.

Plan is that if the prototype I make out of black plastic works out, I'll head out and buy many different colour ones and make multicoloured ones by layering them on top of another.
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>>1203211
i think the best thing you are going to be able to do to "sand" it is to scrape it, then find a solvent for it and soak it for a while to smooth it off
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>>1203208
http://www.mudhole.com/Spacing-Charts-Manuals

Yep. And you can play around with the spacing to get a more consistent line tension across the whole rod, but I don't know how big of a practical effect that has while fighting the fish. The recommended spacing should be just fine.
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>>1201495
Are you the same anon that always posts fucked up feels guy? If so I love it.
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>>1203197
Did you get inspired by Mike Iaconelli’s vid?
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>>1203181
thats that little 1/16th keitech jig right? i HAMMERED 2-3 lb bass on those all last summer with a tiny little tail on it , like a 3 inch finesse worm
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>>1203211
My friend tried this once. And by flexing my own plastic cutting board, i think you have very soft material in your hands. How you glue the pieces and quality of your glue is the key.
My friend didnt succeed. The glue he used caused a chemical reaction and quite much melted the whole thing
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>>1203181
I bought some small Terminator ones n other shit I bought on sale, then I remembered that Texas rigs work bettwr with less hassle.

>>1202889
>>1202879
>longposts from Skid
Thx for the bump
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>>1203190
Inshore fishing still have less meme products than freshwater bass fishing and the conditions can be more crazy and different
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>>1203295
Terminator jigs a best. Rapala as a whole company produces top quality stuff. I shill for Rapala, Storm, Sufix, Blue Fox, Terminator, and some VMC. I’m not a fan of VMC worm hooks or treble hooks, but I like their jigs and jigheads. I don’t use fluorocarbon but I hear that Sufix’s is garbage as a mainline, and I much prefer TroKar worm hooks and Gamakatsu trebles
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>>1203275
No I haven't seen what you're talking about.

>>1203284
Yessir. I had some other little ones from z man and I've caught a few good sized bass on them.
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so depending on my tax returns i -may- be getting either a shitty john boat, or SOT kayak, but i can't decide. i have a pros and cons list

kayak pros:
>easy to store
>i can manage it myself easily
>i can take it anywhere (ocean, rivers, lakes, etc
>easier to transport
cons of kayak
>less stable/easier to fall out of
>probably going to be more expensive because it's super hard to find a sit on top with a weight capacity over 400 pounds (i'm a lard ass and having 130 pounds of gear/fish isn't hard to do when your saltwater tackle bag alone weighs near 40 pounds) for less than a grand)
>will be harder to fly fish out of

boat pros:
>plenty around me for well under $500
>4 feet wide so it will be hard to tip
>easier to stand on
>easier to fly cast from
>i can easily add a motor
>i dont really need to worry about capacity limits
boat cons:
>at best it will be sketchy on the ocean, especially as i'm launching/landing because it will fill up
>heavy
>will probably need a trailer/a second person to get it off the roof of my chevy blazer
>smaller streams/streams with log jams wont really be fishable
>needs more room just to store it (though i probably could pretty easily buy some treated 2x4 to build a little shelter to keep it under)
how do i choose?
>>1203243
>http://www.mudhole.com/Spacing-Charts-Manuals
thanks, though the rod will basically be a broom stick with 100 pound line on it because fuck whatever decides to bite my bait
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>>1203304
I thought that vmc hook is pretty good for their price. I don’t like trokar much because that hook point is absolute meme that always mess up the plastic. Gamakatsu and owner are always solid though. Rapala is pretty decent but the nip produces even better shit when it comes to hardbait.
If you absolutely want use fluorocarbon for mainline, you have to spend a bit of money to get the higher end stuffs or you’ll get unmanagable shit. Seaguar invisx/abrazx or sunlight fc sniper are pretty decent.
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>>1203311
Have you consider stop being a fatass and lose weight then get a kayak?
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>>1203311
I can relate to the kayak thing, I'm 6'5 and 250 pounds, I have excessive amount of gear as well.

I opted to get a float ring and flippers from winter sale.
Cons being that I need to paddle myself against the currents and need to frequently get out of the water to warm up.
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>>1203317
yeah, i did, but then i remembered that i don't care about myself or my body, and that i'm content if i die of a heart attack at 35
>>1203320
i'd be too worried about putting a hole in the floaty, and it also seems like it would be hard to launch/land in the surf. basically, it sounds like the worst of both worlds
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>>1203333
Maybe being able to sit comfortable in a kayak to fish would be a better weight losing motivation than living pass 35. Beside, dying by being over weight is a terrible way to die.
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>>1203357
>said no animal that wasn't human ever
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>>1203358
Where do you think you are?
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>>1203357
i mean if my health gets bad enough i'll probably just leave a note, wander as far in to the woods as my legs will take me, and blow my head off.
though being able to use a kayak is good motivation to get in reasonable shape, and i'll probably lose at least some weight because i don't eat much while i'm fishing. speaking of fishing from a water craft, if you need to pee, do you just pee off the side of the boat indiscriminately or try to be inconspicuous with a bottle?
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>>1203359
idk but being fat is AWESOME
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>>1203360
I usually go ashore to piss. If I am so far out it isn't possible I will piss in a bottle because wind
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>>1203298
That's true, but its a lot easier to tell myself I don't need a 6" duckling topwater than differentiating different reel models for a highly corrosive environment. I kind of want to buy a higher end spinning reel but I'm not entirely sure I know how to properly maintain one.
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>>1203371
Thanks for your feedback. There are lots of resources on youtube that can teach you how to service a reel. I really like penns because there are maybe 8 or so main parts in any penn spinning reel. I can strip and clean one in about 20 minutes.

I'm planning to not get into any specifics in this videos (ex: knot tying, ways to work lures, how to fix a reel etc.) The reason being that there are tons of resources on youtube and elsewhere for these specifics and those presenters could probably do it better than me. I guess the overarching theme of the videos are things I wish I knew when I started fishing saltwater.
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Anyone else cought any reds yet this year? Got a good about 21" fish last friday and im out again tonight. Does anyone else shitpost here while waiting for fish to bite?
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>>1203311
I wouldn't take a small boat on the ocean at all. It only takes a few minutes to get really bad and you're not going to have fun at all in a boat if that happens. I'd probably feel safer in a kayak
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>>1203387
>>1203387
>I wouldn't take a small boat on the ocean at all. It only takes a few minutes to get really bad and you're not going to have fun at all in a boat if that happens
that's why sketchy at best. like, best case scenario it's sketchy, like if i launch right early morning at low tide and have a perfect day it will still be sketchy. at least the yak can't sink
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>>1203360
>Do you pee from boats

If there's people on one side, I pee in the opposite direction. If there's people on both sides but far away I pee towards the group with no children. If they're close enough where they'd have no doubt as to what I'm doing , bottle. In a kayak unless I'm really close to shore , always a bottle. But to be fair I try my absolute best to fish in a place where I won't see a single other person the entire time I'm there. Although I do it mostly because of my misanthropic tendencies, there's always a bonus of pissing whenever I want.
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>>1203311
It's still important to have good guide placement since it evens out the load.

>>1203371
>but its a lot easier to tell myself I don't need a 6" duckling topwater

But brah what about when the mondos are feeding on ducks?
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>>1203398
>He doesn't use a bait net to catch ducklings and liveline them
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>>1203371
>high end spinning reel
Just mail to manufacturer for service. Shimano does $25 reel service. If you are paying for a 400 dollar corrosion-resistant reel then you can pay the $25 to get the few corrodable parts replaced every year or if you drop it in 20 feet of water.
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>>1203398
I have a buddy that claims his PB catfish was caught using a kitten.
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>>1203379
>Does anyone else shitpost here while waiting for fish to bite?
Yes.
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>>1203418
i normally use the aborted fetuses from the dumpster behind the local planned parenthood building when i'm fishing for blue catfish. the fish love them especially if you let them set out in the sun for a couple days
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>>1203424
I always found the children of the poor to have more smell to them and really attract those big cats like magnets
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>>1203428
Is it the melanin level or the fast food diet smell
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>>1203089
I still haven't started fly. I got a 4/5 wt for fresh and an 8/9 for salt but haven't had the time to start learning. I've got so much going on that I don't see it being this spring. Kinda sucks. Was at BPS today and debating getting a salt fly tying kit. Was smart and passed.

>>1202454
BPS has gloves w/o tips on all including thumb.
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>>1203435
yeah dont get a fly tying kit and definately don't get one to "save money"
to tie patterns the shop doesn't have is valid. to tie flies slightly differently to suit your exact scenario (say, you take home some nymphs and want to tie a fly in the -exact- colours) is a good reason. as an extension of fly fishing is a good reason. to save money isn't. seriosuly though, go learn how to make that 8/9 do work, if you can learn a double haul and get a 70 foot cast it will be worth having on hand just incase they're right on the shore and you want to try for one
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>>1203306
He did a review on the same jig and put a little micro twin tail on it as well. Figured you must have saw it.

>>1203315
Absolutely nothing wrong with the quality of VMC hooks. I personally don’t like how the hook points are not inline with the shank. A 3 degree offset, although small, really disturbs my autism. TroKar doesn’t bitch up plastics any more than any other hook. Rapala hard baits are excellent because they’re either balsa or cheaper than nip lures while producing just as many fish. I have no real use for fluorocarbon as anything other than leader material so it’s not a big deal to me
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>>1203475
>buy $1 chink crankbait
>put 2 .50 cent VMC trebles on it
>get a $2 crankbait that works
>???
>profit
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>>1202718
>>1203190
One thing about the video I would disagree with is 20+ lb of drags. It would be hard to find reels size 4000 or less with 20+ lbs of drags, especially lighter shimano reel line. Shit, you don’t see reels rated for 20+ lbs line even on smaller conventional reels. People use 24 max drag reel for shit offshore. You can definitely play with your fishes better that and shouldn’t need more than 7 lbs of drags and typically you will set it at 5lb or even less.. Ideally, you wouldn’t set your reel to max drag all the time so you would be content with reels rated for 10-13 lbs max drag. Also, smooth drag is more important than max drag rating but it’s difficult to figure that out as a beginner and you might not figure it out until a fish break you off because your drag is being wonky. The shimano Nascl is rated for like 20lbs and that’s rare for a reel that size and weight but I never use more than 5lbs of drag on it
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>>1203478
> that work
Questionable. However 1 out of 3might work decently but then you are basically spent $4 for one working chink shit when you could have just spend $5 on a normal name brand one or even a nip brand that you got a good deal on
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>>1203484
Well I ordered a bunch I'll let you guys know if they work when they get here next year
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>>1203484
not him but i've bought around 30 lures from china and they have all worked fine so far. it's great because i can order several of them for the same price as a name brand one and not give a shit if they get snagged or lost. i've only bought from the vendors who have hundreds of 5 star reviews though
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So I went on an impulse buy yesterday and I ordered a daiwa saltiga 10H from Japan for 300 euros (about 100-150) less than in Greece and most of the EU online shops...I'm still not sure if I needed this...I am a victim of my own fishing hubris...
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>>1203627
> greece
> irresponsible financial decision
Check out desu
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>>1203478
Crankbaits are crankbaits. Any crankbaits will work, it’s a question of what it does and when it will work. Disregarding that completely, a $1 chink jerkbait will absolutely not work as well as a name brand one.
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>>1203627
You saw something shiny and took the bait, you're literally no better than the fish. Every fish you catch on that thing is going to know this and judge you.
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>>1203627
Not a saltwater guy but I'm a huge Diawa fan. Their stuff is just as good as Shimano. I think you did good.
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>>1200980
How much would I expect to spend on like a 10ft Jon Boat, a small outboard, a trolling motor, and a fish finder / sonar
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>>1203719
All depends on how lucky you get when looking for one.

My 12ft with a 9.5hp evinrude was $400. That was a good deal though. Depending on the fish finder you get you could spend anywhere from $50-$1500. Trolling motor I have no idea. I’d be very sceptical about buying a used one and new ones that arnt shit are not cheap
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What is the best baitcasting reel I can get for under $300?
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>>1203311
are you still in Ohio or did you move close to the shore?
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>>1203482
Yah. I agree. I misremembered the drag ratings on my reels. Youre looking at around ~15lb drag for most reels. Thanks for the feedback.
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>>1203825
most of them
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>>1203825
http://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Shimano_Chronarch_MGL_Casting_Reels/descpage-CMGLX.html

Ask tx fag he has one
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>>1203827
Still in Ohio, but the bf is from Jersey (goes to college a mile from me) and sometimes I get out to the coast because of it. My dream is to move to NC and work on a charter boat
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Found two grey blue jay feathers outside and tried to make a wet fly.

Think it’ll catch a fish?
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>>1203905
>>1203827
fugg i phone posted so i didnt have my trip
>>1203913
honestly probaly. personally i would have not done any tail and just a thread body, but it looks like a nice little soft hackle hares ear. also might have done it on a bigger hook
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>>1203905
>Still in Ohio
jon boat is correct answer then. if you really want to yak on the ocean rent, or if you're lucky, borrow one when you're there
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>>1203939
jon boats are nice but won't be able to get on a lot of the small water that ohio offers. Also not very lake erie/great lake friendly if you are ever up there.
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>>1203939
basically >>1203943 is my reason for considering a kayak in the fresh. i also suppose i could, if i really wanted to, build a removable outrigger and have a motor (i have to register a kayak just like a boat regardless of motor or not) for bigger water
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what size of bait should I use for trouts?
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>>1203989
anything from #20 midge larvae to #4 wooly bugger sized, depending on the exact scenario
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>>1203970
ohiofag here, it's like 20 bucks to get a 3 year hand-powered/kayak registration and a good chunk more for anything with a motor.
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>>1203994
cristal clear water on the bottom and w/o current. Also how to i know that sizes? Any standarts?
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>>1204002
you can always throw a spinner/spoon/small rapala original crankbait. depending on which type of trout, that won't work well for brookies
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>>1204002
oh i cant really help you with clear water. maybe individual maggots on tiny 14 or 16 fly hooks, hooked like pic related for bait. inline spinners would probably be good as well. and for fly rods, probably small streamers and chironomids
>>1203995
really? my uncle (has a sit in kayak that is too small for me) said it was like $25 for the year
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>>1203825
This >>1203884
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>>1204007
yeah that sure is the traditional method but somethimes the fuckers go to the bottom. I am talking about lake trouts
>>1204008
sure, i will atach whatever i find there honestly lol
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>>1204023
oh lake trouts, spoons
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>>1203913
i catch dinks all day with something similar in the little creeks near me, but only dinks so who knows
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>>1204008
http://watercraft.ohiodnr.gov/alternative
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is it difficult to launch a boat by yourself? i want to get a small aluminum boat to fish nearby public lakes but i don't have any friends who fish
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>>1204043
You can launch an aluminum boat without a trailer. I keep mine on the roof rack of my truck bed cap, pull it down, drag it to shore, hop in, push out, attach trolling motor. EZ PZ. Using a trailer makes it harder imo, and means I'm fishing in places with bigger boats and the bigger assholes that drive them.
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>>1204048
isn't it heavy to put back on the truck by yourself? how long is it?
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>>1204043
na, just take your time and make sure you've got everything loaded in before you put it in the water.
Getting it back on has always been the more tricky part but if its a small boat its easy as shit because if you drive up the ramp and the boat is crooked you can just lift it up and put it straight.

Best advice I could give is to try and find a day to launch when no one else will be at the ramp and you can take your time and not feel pressured. After you do it once you'll realize its not hard.
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>>1200980
Could I use these things to dropshot?

Walmart didn't have anything specifically for dropshotting.
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>>1204058
Why couldn't you?

I use them all the time when im in a spot I know I might lose some and dont want to waste my tungsten weights
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>>1204050
It's a 12 footer. Roughly 100 lbs. The secret is that I never actually pick up 100 lbs. To get it back on the truck I just lean it against the truck, and then start pushing. The truck is about 6 feet tall so half the weight it already on the truck when I start pushing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jn6l_For6S0
I do it kind of like this guy, except I load from the back and upside down
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>>1204089
This sounds pretty easy and there's always cheap jon boats on craigslist. Maybe this will be the year. Even if I have to paddle it, beats the shore on a hot day when the fish are deep
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caught a dead fish today
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>>1204207
That looks like a pleco, anon. If I remember they're stiff as fuck and eat algae.
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>>1204207
A tropical fish probably wouldn't do so well in all the cold weather we've had. Maybe some invasive pythons died too.

>>1204209
It is indeed a plecostomus. Armored sucker catfish are a shit fish that aren't good eating.
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>>1204203
I used to fish at our family cabin with one as a kid. Thing probably had a dozen holes in it, fixed with chewing gum.
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>>1203008
Nigga, the cows already eatin in Calvert Cliffs.
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Fished last sunday with my Bro. I got 7'6" spinning rod for float fishing. I rigged it with 10lb braid and 10ft of 6lb fluro joined by a alberto knot. Snow was shitting on us half the day then rain the other half. I struggled at the begining of the day, then slowly learned how to drift the pink 3inch power worm I was fishing under an Ez float. I added the right amount of non reuseable shot and the drift became perfect. Lost a few fish including a rainbow that was pushing 4lbs then started nailing them. My bro and I even got a double. Driving back 200 miles through the ice and snow was fucking sketchy but completely worth it.
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>>1204347
nice. depending on the weather i -might- go up to the lake and try swinging for steelhead over the weekend and test out my new line
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What are your thoughts on using snaps for quick changes? I've spent a day using only snaps and another only retieing knots to switch lures. Really enjoyed not having to retie stuff when using snaps, but I'm worried about the effect it could have on presentation. I'm using small 1/8oz lures so the added hardware is not of insignificant size relative to the lure.
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>>1204563
Largemouth bass will bite anything that moves so if that’s what you’re targeting don’t worry about it. Anything else, rule of thumb is not to use snap swiveles on baits that have a side to side action. It won’t completely kill the action all together but it can severely impact it depending on the lure
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>>1204563
if they're just jigs they wont hurt anything but if you're still concerned about size look on amazon for something called "no knot fas-snaps" and buy those, they're super small and actually super strong
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>>1204563
I only use snaps and while they do sometimes affect very small suspending jerkbaits they just dont seem to cause problems for anything else. I've seen small panfish actually go after the snap and it can definitely add to the profile of your lure (this could be good or bad, but who knows if the fish care)
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i think i should be able to get a bluegill on this
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>>1204615
they'll swarm it
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>>1204616
i hope they do
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>>1204563
Sorta on the subject has anyone used crimps for heavy mono? How does it compare to traditional knots?
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>>1204709
below 100 pound test it's really not worth and even then i wouldn't really start crimping mono until 150+ pound test
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>>1204563
Lures that come with the split rings are often better off with a snaps. Just remove the split ring so you can just snaps directly on the lure and make minimal balance difference. Tying line to split ring is always a but sketchy for me unless it’s those oval splitrings
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Youtube homo here. Going out this weekend. Anyone interested in a vid about how I outfit for surf fishing this time of year?
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I'm so ready for spring. Mainly the rain. Once the water comes up back to its normal level I should be killin em.

>>1204713
Damn I hate tying knots above #30. It's not that I can't, I'm just not that great at it.
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>>1204819
really? you have to use less wraps at higher pound test. like, lets say you use 8 wraps on a uni in #20 you might only use 4 or 5 in #80
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>>1200980
Are loop knots like the Rapala©®™ a meme? Is there any reason to use one over a palomar or uni?

I hear people say they give the lure more action but it sounds like bullshit.
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>>1204830
idk looks pretty meme. I prefer the double palomar because it's fast and doesn't fuck around.
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>>1204824
>you have to use less wraps at higher pound test

Honestly did not know that. I'm sure that'll make it easier. Thanks anon.

>>1204830
It's great for things like small cranks. I had one that kept on wanting to roll on its side and that knot let it run straight.
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>>1204837
>anon
fugg, forgot trip
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>>1204839
Like I don't mind doing the FG knot with high test stuff, but I always feel like my knot is trash at the hook. Doing less turns shoul help tho.
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>>1204844
oh yeah the fg knot is fine at any test. the knot i like the most with heavy line is called the no slip loop knot. it's not the fastest knot, or the strongest, but it's the strongest loop knot and i've tied it in line as heavy as 200 lb when a guy at the pier wanting to shark fish forgot his crimper. the next night he told me knot held well enough for him to beach a decent bull shark and get the hook back, though i didn't actually see the shark personally, he said it was at least 7 feet
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>>1204563
These kick ass. I use them for musky leaders and surf casting lures. They are especially usefull in cold weather since it is so easy to change lures with
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>>1204846
Neat. I'll give it a shot.
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>>1204863
go for it. practice it on lighter mono in the 10-20 pound range then once you have it figured try it with the heaviest you have and watch in amazment by how similar it feels even with your heavier mono. also in the video, he brings the tag towards him, and i did some testing, that is indeed the strongest way to tie it, even though he said it doesn't matter. also it doesn't work with braid and i'm not sure how well it gets on with flouro, given that i never use flouro

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MGTgvAvm64
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>>1204867
How many wraps would you do with 50# test?

>i'm not sure how well it gets on with flouro, given that i never use flouro
I don't have any flouro over 20# so no worries there.
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>>1204877
with #50 i probably give 5 or so. i think i did a 4 turn in the #200
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>>1204884
>>1204877
oh and my best advice is cinch it in one single quick decisive movement, you may also want to pull on the line with one hand, the hook with another, and use your teeth to pull the tag to get a really good seat on it
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>>1204795
do it. Where you located?

>>1204339
fucker, I'm jealous
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>>1204850
agreed. I love those fuckers
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>>1204909
you use the ta ones? or another brand
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>>1204795
Yeah, go for it. Can you talk about how you choose a good spot? Whole lotta beach real estate out there.
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>>1204909
I've never used one without a split ring or some extra line
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>>1204907
Texas.
>>1204912
Yah I can do that tonight. I'll be rigging tomorrow after work.
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Finally got away for an afternoon fishing the incoming tide, is there a chance of anything bigger being in the marsh side of these valves? Apparently there's a flapper damper to protect the marsh from heavy currents. Caught plenty of 2-3 lb bass but nothing bigger.
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>>1204932
Actually. I don't think I could do a good job of explaining without real world pictures.

I've watched this video before:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlF_Hy3kNLY&list=PLU3bYe3nuGdFvCDLK-fcvT3cG_zaM_n8f&t=5s&index=1

He very excellently goes over how to read the beach and pick a spot. The best takeaway is look for where the waves behave differently than other places. Those indicate unique subsurface topology that fish will accumulate on.

And some additional wisdom I've got from old timer locals here, is that you want to look for where large amounts of shell has accumulated near the water line. This indicates strong wash currents that bring deeper troughs and fish closer to shore. Big shells washed up = stronger flow. Small shells deposited = weaker flow.
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>>1204945
Alright in hindsight it strikes me as pretty obvious that this wasn't recent. Cleaned out my phone and found this pic from a trip last year and wanted to post about it though.
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Whats your favorite fishing tobacco?
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>>1205187
none, because even though i'm a degenerate, i still have standards
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>>1205187
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>>1205187
Definitely not kayak. Cope Longcut if I've I'm going to do anything, but I only dip when I'm at the coast.
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>>1204563
OBJECTIVE LIST FOR SNAPS AND SNAP SWIVELS:

Use Snap Swivels with- Spoons, snelled panfish hooks

Use Snaps with- Jerkbaits, crankbaits, poppers, walking baits; basically anything with a split ring. Remove split ring, attach to snap like >>1204715 said.

Tie directly to: jigs, jig heads, lone hooks (like an EWG, aberdeen, etc.), frogs, spinnerbaits, buzzbaits, and basically everything else.
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>>1204910
ta's and I think I have strikers. both brands hold up well.
They are a godsend because my eyes are going to shit so knots can be a pain in the ass. Stop, put on glasses, tie knot. Sucks if I'm on the yak. On shore I don't mind as much.
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>>1205187
blaze some weed instead.
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>>1205281
Y U NO LOOPKNOT?
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>>1204945
can you take watercraft in that water?
If you can I would seriously consider buying one of these (picture) I'm satisfied with mine. can access a lot of water that I can't get my kayak to. Use to use a tube but with the boat it's a lot easier. you can fish all that shit.
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so i decided to ride up to a lake and see whats up, it's frozen still, but not frozen enough. i was hoping this one spot would be thawed enough to have dink bluegill to try to catch with pic related
>>1205349
it's not a good fishing trip till someone busts out the fish whistle
>>1205364
id be scared of putting a hole in it
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>>1205373
dat filename
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so i found this, probably a good thing to know for those of us who are in to catch and release

https://www.keepemwet.org/keepemwet-news-1/2018/2/14/fish-reflex-tests-a-valuable-tool-for-anglers
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>>1205352
i giant a giant 12 foot panther martin spinner
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>>1205381
great. now i just need a livewell
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>>1205389
why?
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>>1205397
Not him but I’m imaging the situation is
>be on a boat
>be on the shore
>no net
>catch fish
>???
No where to hold the fish to determine if it’s healthy enough to swim off.

Also couldn’t you just avoid all those step and just wait for the fish to swim away under its own power? You could do all of the things that guy said, have the fish swim away, and there would still be the same chance that it might die. Happens all the time. Sometimes a full day after they were last caught they will shit the bed.
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>>1205402
just keep all the fish you catch and eat them to ensure they dont go to waste
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>>1205397
if i read that article correctly, if the fish doesnt pass the escape and righting test, you gotta keep it in a livewell until its condition improves
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>>1205364
You could put kayaks and such in no problem, but the current is crazy strong, and the seabed is all oystershells and sand so you'd need a good anchor. The birds were going crazy right in front of that grass patch right before high tide though, and I would have killed to get a better angle on it so maybe I'll try next time.
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>>1205409
I almost never keep any of the fish I catch. Becuse of that I almost never have anything needed to properly keep the fish even if I wanted to bring them home. If I were to put them on a stringer and walk around with them dragging off my hip the whole day they would be absolutely disgusting by the end of the day.
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All the catfish rods I see are medium heavy, and online guides say the same, but I've got medium light setup with 4lb line. I never caught catfish before, so I'm not sure if it's doable on this setup. Help pls
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>>1205422
i'd be comfortable harassing catfish up to 2 pounds with that setup, but i would still reccomend getting something with #15-#20 mono (#40+ braid) on a fairly long, fairly stiff rod for general catfishing
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>315

Woah, forgot about the thread. Preheating the oven!
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>>1205450
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