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You can only pack a knife for your next trip.
Which do you choose?
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*plunges BOTH of them deep into the earth*
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>>1244434
The BG gerber one, I don't like serrated edges.
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>>1244434
Didn't that Gerber design have problems falling apart when they were sold as the LMF knife?
All things considered, If those are the only two options, I'd take the Gerber because it doesn't have serrations.
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Uncle Ray knows best desu.
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>>1244444
>paying extra money to have another man's name on your knife
Might as well let him fuck your wife too.
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>>1244446
kek
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>>1244446
>not letting Ray have a go with your wife
>yfw
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Horace Kephart
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>>1244440
Yeah if you need a serrated edge you should just grab a cheap multitool (or a good one or an okay but compact one like the skeletool)

Serrated on a fixed blade seems like a waste to me.
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>>1244434
i'd turn 360 degrees and sudoku myself with both of them before relying on either
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>>1244442
The Bear Gryll's knife is based off the Gerber Prodigy, a full tang knife. Some of the early BG knives were changed a bit in design and had flat butts, that could crack off. They had a couple design changes and improvements. Current issue BG is a decent knife. The Les Stroud knife looks kinda faggy.

The Gerber LMF is not full tang but is a durable fucking knife. I won two. Beat the shit out of one and still really like it.
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>>1244434
I hate serrated edges but after owning several other Bear Grylls products I have realize that they are all garbage I don't think either of them are high quality knives but I would be willing to try a Les Stroud product
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>>1244473
underrated
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>>1244434

K-Bar

The Bear Grylls isn't full tang
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>>1244440
both have models with and without it
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Of the two in the OP pic, I'll take the BG, only because I really hate serrations on a knife, and the other knife has a fucktarded sheath to make things worse. I like my stuff simple and functional. The BG has a longer handle length which is better for my hands and a stabbier point in case I might need to stab something. Realistically I'd only take them if they were free or had no other choice, I have better knives I can take and I have decent back-ups too, I can't see myself spending more money for something I don't need, or like. The only thing I don't care for on the BG knife is the steel choice, but at that price I could get some chinese D2 that would be better than that.
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>>1244434
Why do people even put serrations on knives anyways? It's not like you're going to be sawing through anything with a 1.5" saw blade that you can't cut with a normal knife but you're going to lose your ability to use the heel of the blade for fine work
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>>1244548
they don't know how to sharpen
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>>1244446
>Bear Grills, Les Stroud
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>>1244444
Quints of truth
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>>1244434
neither my dude
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>>1244446
kek
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>>1244434
>Les Stroud knife vs Bear Grylls knife
>>>/hm/
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>>1244548
I have a mall ninja machete that has serrations along most or the spine. That is actually useful.
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>>1244670
>That is actually useful.
For what purpose?
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>>1244434
>les stroud

you mean Helle Temagami, right?
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>>1244434
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Neither, they are Wal-Mart-tier garbage. Also, look at that absurd fucking sheath the Les Stroud comes with. They are for LARPers
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>>1244473
>>1244503
How much does it cost?
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>>1244677
Sawing? If I didn’t have an axe with me I’d saw bigger shit to size easily since I have like 18 inches of aggressive serrations.
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>>1244939
Serrations aren't really the same thing as saw teeth though. One is a type of blade for cutting through fibrous stuff whereas the other is basically just little spikes made to tear chunks off of wood as quickly and accurately as possible.
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>>1244733
that's adorable
i used to work at a steel shop and i got a dude to make a center punch for me, and he got all fucking into it and made it with a spiral up the handle like that. true love. thanks, roland. sorry i fucked it up.
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>>1244867
currently $44, or $21 for the only blade blank to add your own handles
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>>1244520

K-bars are rat-tail tang
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>>1246186
Literally nothing wrong with rat tails.
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>>1246200

Oh, nothing wrong with a properly done rat tail. I only mentioned it since he disqualified the BG knife since it was nof a full tang knife.
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>>1244434
A $10 pocket knife is literally all you need. Anyone who tells you otherwise is trying to sell you something.
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>>1246329
try making feather sticks or battoning with it
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>>1246332
>battoning with it
You shouldn't be doing that with any folder other than those monster slabs Cold Steel makes tbqh.
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>>1246339
a 10 folder can't do it, that was my point
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>>1246332
>battoning
Great way to destroy your $200 knife, you wannabe survivalist. Get a hatchet. Cheap or expensive - Get a Swedish meme axe if you must. But don't do this shit.
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>>1246341
I batton small sticks with it, I use a small axe for bigger pieces as for the wannabe survivalist I don't give a shit about survival skills I just need a fire to cook on
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>>1246341
also
>$200 on a knife
I'm not stupid enough to do this
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Ganzo fixed

Got mine for $12 in a Gearbest sale.
Good rubberized sheath with belt cutter, ferro rod and diamond sharpening stone.
Knife has a comfortable rubberized handle.
The blade is front heavy which allows chopping; thick but has a high grind which allows fine cutting.
I still can't believe what value I got for the the money, best knife deal I made until now.
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>>1246348
shame. Some knives are easily worth the extra dough. Even some of the meme ones (pic related - superb ergos, great quality, great general purpose knife, even if it costs an arm and a leg and I could do the same job with a much cheaper knife)
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>>1246493
>Some knives are easily worth the extra dough
good goy
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>>1246751
bad Jew
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Who wants to talk me into a Becker BK2 or an ESEE 4 or 6 instead of my planned Benchmade Bushcrafter 162?
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>>1246831
>bk2

don't - it's a horrible knife.

Honestly - I wouldn't get a 162 either - look up LT Wright Genesis, GNS, or any such knife (any variation or Ray Mears' woodlore).

Battle Horse Knives, or any such manufacturer will be better than the BM 162
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>>1246841
would you discourage all Becker knives or just the bk2? And why not that knife?
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Can any knife fags recommend a specific buck they like while /out/?
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>>1246846

The BK2 is a fucking brick.
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>>1246846
what >>1246848 said.

the bk2 is a brick. Bk7 is ok, although it's way larger, than you need. Mors Kochansky has 3 or 4 vids on the knives he's used in his 40 years as a survival instructor - check him out.

In general - either get a classic puukko (pic related), or stick to the tried and true:
1/8'' thick
3-4 inch blade
no guard
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>>1246493
It's the guy with the backyard 101 knife again
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>>1247025
>backyard

well sorry i don't take 100% of my pictures i the woods.
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>>1246848
very eloquently put
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>>1244434
Neither Bear Grylls nor Les Stroud would use either of those pieces of shit
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>>1247251
It's a reference to the designer.
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>>1247778
fuck, how did I miss that...

anywhoo - it's really an outstanding knife - ergos are great- the handle is easily one of the most comfortable I've ever used, and the curved blade is great for general work.

If anything, it's a bit wide (esp. compared to a classic puukko), but whatever.

As long as you can get over the fact that the knife's biggest claim to fame is being designed by a youtuber, and the outrageous price tag ($240+) it's a really good knife. Not one i'd recommend outright, but that's because as a rule, I don't recommend anything over $200 when there are equally good options around $150.
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>>1245076
Holy shit, this reply is creepy as fuck!
sorry for late reply I was banned for some reason and I was /out/ for 2 days.

This knife is folded black steel and I don't know how it is possible to fuck it up, but good job mate. Make a new one?

Now to the creepy part - my rl name is Roland and I worked in a steel shop too.
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>>1245076
Pure love!
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>>1246332
BATTONNY CHOP CHOP
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>>1246344
Just pick up smaller sticks next time.
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>>1247809
Looks like it's a pretty versatile design, also it's a looker.
I prefer ~4-5" long full flat- and scandigrind blades for primitive crafting though. Especially the scnadi flies through wood.
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>>1248150
have you tried one of these? It's really fun with wood, and meat as well.
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>>1246831
>>1246846
I have a BK2, brand new, no box, but never used. So if you are interest in buying one, let me know. I'll sell for a good reasonable offer.
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>>1246493
>>1247251
What knife is that in your pics?
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>>1250525

LT Wright JX2.

It's main claim to fame is being designed by a youtuber (preparedmind101), but once you get past that, and the price tag ($240+), it's a really good knife, and LT Wright quality.
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Cold Steel GI Tanto
For those who really want to abuse.
Also only $25
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>>1244434
I choose the Cold Steel Drop Forged Survivalist.

Made from superior 52100 ball bearing steel. This knife is literally 1 piece of steel and is indestructible. Nothing on it to break.
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>>1248150
I-is that a microbevel on that knife?
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>>1251050
This. It's basically useless for normal knife stuff, but you can do whatever your heart desires with it and it won't break.
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>>1250956
Thanks, I don't know who that guy is and I don't watch any /out/ related youtubers (or any youtubers), but the knife looks pretty good.

What do you use it for?
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>>1244434
Bg, don't like serrations.
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>>1251219
>I don't know who that guy is
He does gay porn
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>>1251219
PM101 is mostly a gearfag - his channel is supposed to be a prepper channel, but all he does is gear reviews, but he has a couple of decent knife designs (and some utterly riddiculous ones).

As for this particular knife, it's a great general-purpose outdoor knife - has great ergos (super comfortable handle), and the curved blade cuts really well, and you can chop with it (within reason) without fearing for the edge (I got the O1 version, it also comes in 3V).
I use it for anything from cutting meat, to processing firewood.
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>>1251296
/out/ related gay porn?
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>>1246831
If get the esee 6 since it's a good all around knife. If your willing to spend the extra money go to "the knife connection dot com" and pick up their custom grip scales and improved kydex sheath. With the extra money imo. I plan to get one myself for my birthday in a few months.
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>>1251345
I wouldn't know, anon.

>how do you like your hair
>just fuck my shit up, senpai
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>>1251050
>>1251059
Complete garbage. WHy the fuck would anyone buy this shit? You can get a good knife, like an Esee and it will withstand most anything, unless you are an idiot. And even if you are, and someone break it (even willfully like shooting the blade with various calibers of boolits), their lifetime unconditional guarantee will replace it.
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>>1244548
Serrations will cut way deeper than plain edge, especially a fully serrated knife. They're really good for self defense, much better than plain edge.
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>>1251580
>Esee

52100 is superior to whatever garbage 1095 they use. The Cold Steel survivalist is a literally a steal for a knife made of 52100. It's an amazing value.
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my ka-bar works fine. Got it on sale at Cabelas for like $40. Sheath was damaged. I keep it in my truck when I need to rob euro stores
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>>1248464
I had a really bad accident with a knife without finger guard, since then I don't want to use them anymore. It looks really cool though.

>>1251062
Yup, tired of chipping.
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>>1251603
Not him, but I see no value in that knife. There's more to a knife than indestructibility. Hell, I've never actually had a knife break on me. Granted, I only use them as knives, not hammers and crowbars and other stupid shit.

One solid piece sounds great and all until it freezes to your hand or slips because it's fucking steel.

Plus, most knives I have seen break have not actually done so at the tang, but somewhere along the blade. This sort of one piece construction does nothing to alleviate that at all. I wouldn't worry about a cold steel knife snapping anywhere to begin with. They're generally built like a brick shithouse, which means heavy, blocky, but admittedly tough.
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>>1251580
Picked up an ESSE 6, unused for $40 at a garage sale two weeks ago.
My heart was beating out of my chest as I was negotiating price.
I've wanted one for a decade.
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>>1251989
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>>1251989

damn, anon. Some poor fella probably died, and his wife sold his knives for what he told her they cost him...
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>>1244434
I'd rather sever my dick, pack it in my ass than take a trash Bear Shills knife anywhere.
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>>1252117
oh good anon rest easy, survival of the fittest is really the best way to rid the planet of manlets.
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I have a Ka-bar, got it for 30$ in 2008 due to it being an operation Iraqi freedom edition but that rubbed off the first year lol
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>>1251808
You can easily wrap the handle in gutted paracord, or you could even rubber dip the handle. It's half the price of an ESEE and made out of a superior steel.

I could've gotten an Ontario SP5 and the CS drop forged survivalist and paid the same price as one of those ESEE knives.
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>>1246848
>>1246841
The whole point of the bk2 is the fact that it is indeed a brick. As a survival knife, it will never break. As a bushcraft knife it is acceptable and does the job, but there are better options for general bushcraft utility for sure. I personally love the knife specifically for the fact that it is bomb proof
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>>1252556

It also weighs a ton. That's not exactly a desirable survival attribute.
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>>1252592
.75 vs 1.14. I don't consume soy; I think I'll be ok.
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>>1252613

Sure, add 35% more weight to all your survival gear because it's "bomb proof" and see how far that gets you.

Lighter blades can hold up just fine.
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>>1244434
Enjoy resharpening that every five minutes.
Id rather have an actual tool with me
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>>1251989
God damn, that's a GREAT fucking score. I bought an Esee 3 at a yard sale once for $30 and I thought I was a king. No sheath but it had aftermarket glow in the dark scales which I sold for $15/shipped. You, sir are the new King! Post pics.
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>>1252634
We're talking about knives here... are you off your meds?
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>>1246332
>battoning
>ever
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>>1246493
That's a skinning knife. Literally a worthless "survival" knife.
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>>1252677
yeah, we are talking about knives. Lighter is better. 1/8'' is bomb proof enough.

>>1252714
>That's a skinning knife. Literally a worthless "survival" knife.

oh really? Why?

It's 1/8'' thick, O1 tool steel, great ergonomics, very good slicer, not heavy, but very durable.

As a "do everything" outdoor knife it's great.

As for being a "survival" knife, and going with "the best survival knife is the one you have", I'll grant you that something like pic related, that is more convenient for edc would make a better "emergency survival" knife.

I only carry the JX2 when I go innawoods, and it holds up beautifully. Try one if you get a chance.
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>>1252764
Well it depends on how hard you use your knives and indeed how you use them. I bring either my BK9 or BK2 with me on hiking or hunting trips because I can use them as multi purpose tool. It’s lighter than my axe and for the types of fires that I make I don’t usually need to chop wood, but occasionally I have a log that I can’t break without putting a notch into it. This necessitates a strong knife. Now I see that for general utility such as carving or skinning kinds of tasks that these knifes are not the best. However if I’m going to have to run into the mountains with only 1 knife for the rest of my life I am going to pick the one that won’t break on me ever, which is the bk2
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>>1252826

The only time you're going to need a knife built like a pry bar is if you use it like a pry bar.. and the heat treat on the knife means that it'll never be a good pry bar.
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>>1252826
use your knives more.

"The more you know, the less you carry" applies in this case. The more experience you have, the smaller your knife gets.

1/4'' thick is a joke, and a total meme straight out of the 1980s.

1/8'' thick is all you need to have a knife that's indestructible through any normal use. Unless we are talking a 3/8'' thick, 16'' kukri, there is absolutely no need to have a knife thicker than 1/8''.

Heck - my main edc knife is under 3/32'' thick (0.075'' to be precise).

Think about it. Finnish puukko knives, that have been in use for centuries, are usually around 3mm thick.

Pic related is somwhere between 4 and 5mm thick at the spine, but it's a rather peculiar knife - partial tang and glued into the handle. And it's used by people living in Siberia. Not some chill place like Alaska, or Wyoming, but mother effing Siberia.

you really, REALLY don't need a super thick blade with terrible geometry, just so it can be "uber-indestructible". Check out Mors' videos on survival knives. See any BK2-sized monsters? His definition of an "indestructible prybar" is no more than 1/8'' thick.
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>>1252764
All curvature in the blade does not lend itself to survival. It excels at slicing flesh that's about it. I'd much rather have a mora black.
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>>1252891
Didn't say anywhere that i was using it as a prybar.
>>1252901
There is is a peace of mind when being deep, deep, in the back country where you aren't sure humans have ever stepped foot before and knowing that my most valuable tool won't be breaking on me. Sure it adds a couple of extra ounces and it's probably overkill, but I've broken 4 knives now, not doing battoning, and I have yet to break the BK2 and BK9
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>>1253132

How the fuck did you break 4 prior knives without batoning? How shit tier were they? I've only ever needed to re-profile tips and it has ALWAYS been from me doing something stupid with them like prying things open or throwing them.
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>>1244446
lel.
Also, I thought Les just carried a multi-tool (with mini-knife). What are you gonna do with a knife, stab a bear?
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>>1253144
2 ontario rtac 2's, a gerber bear grylls, and a buck 119 busted through. I spend a lot of time in the colorado, utah, wyoming, and new mexico mountains for hunting and hiking trips.
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>>1253144
>>1253216
So realistically one of those knives, the gerber was shit tier. I just used them for chopping dead wood up for fires at night and helping quarter elk, deer, and bear
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Ka-Bar
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>>1253316

Friends don't let friends /out/ with rat tail tangs.
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>>1253319
it's a good knife, it holds an edge well. Mine has seen 4 years of abuse now and is holding up very well.

just don't use it for splitting wood
but that goes for any knife really

I am however always on the lookout for a good old school Marbles knife
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>>1252901

Can't take it seriously when it looks like the maker took a shit on it.
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>>1253132
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCQR6xymR2g

watch at 8:20.

And that's just 1/8'' thick, with a far superior geometry than the BK2.

Seriously - your "peace of mind" comes from inexperience. Learn to trust your tools.
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>>1253365
that's just how Yakut knives look.
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>>1253365
>Can't take it seriously

does this help?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCrbf7Fi9Nw
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>>1253387
looks like it slices into that pretty ok with that FFG, wish I could have heard it cutting, but without the sound it looked like a wood as soft as green pine but still, not too shabby.
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>>1252901
Glued in rat-tails are comfy mate. It's how we learned to make them in school here in lappland.
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>>1253433
>how we learned to make them in school
Your school sounds amazing. All I ever got to do was make birdhouses and stuff. Not that it wasn't fun, just that it wasn't "making a knife" fun.
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>>1253535
Did you ever ask to make a knife?
It wasn't an obligatory thing, it's just what most people chose to do during woodworking classes.
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>>1253380
Lol trusting my tools through normal use, NOT Battoning, still had them break. 1/8 is good if you don’t have to chop a notch into a small log to make it weak enough to break on a tree. Or accidentally hit bone when going through an elk joint. Unless it’s a super steel, I just don’t trust it to perform the job that I need
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>>1253536
>Did you ever ask to make a knife?
I didn't. Probably wouldn't have worked even if I did considering they don't even let you carry SAKs in school anyways. I've since bought a blade blank from Helle and made a handle for it though, so I'm not deprived from the joy of the process.
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Neither and you buy a fucking mora
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>>1251059
>I piece of steel and its indestructible
You fell right for that marketing scheme huh. You just described every full tang fixed blade bud. Only dofference is other fixed blades come with grips that arent paracord sliding around a piece of steel.
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>>1253391
>FFG

not really. Yakut knives are flat on one side, convex on the other. Making this a dedicated right hand knife. Pretty unique design (which was the reason I bought it).




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