/out/s thoughts on religion?whats your religion? is it tied to your /out/ings? do you connect your religion with /out/?
>>973401why? how? why not? explain?
animistno meme, i thank the mountain and rock every time i'm done climbing.
Not religious, but when people ask where I'm going when I go /out/ I usually say "gonna go find God for a few days"
>>973399The Bible has consistently referred to the chosen people as being whatever group happen to be wandering and living off the land.Jesus quit his job and abandoned his birthright to wander the countryside and fish.A lot of the holy laws in the Old testament are based on survival skills; don't eat shellfish (may contain a heat-resistant toxin) or pork (because trichinosis).Most of the important dates described in most religions correlate to planting and harvesting as well. If you look at the Bible from a non-literal perspective, there's a lot of good information in it that relates to living off the land they way people did at the time of its writing.
>>973399I believe in stuff, but I don't practice. Not relevant to me going /out/.Also, shut up.
>>973399God exists and my temple is the outdoors. But all religion is man made and most are there to take your money. You don't need some preist to lecture you about vatican laws to know that god loves you.
Any pagans here?
I can smell christian blood from 300 yards.
>>973399I use psychedelics to communicate with my perception of God. Maybe he's JudeoChristian and maybe he's Mayan. I don't really care but I'm just glad He's there.
I believe that the natural Earth is a god. Not exactly like the animist above, but that physical nature is divine. To put it in a christian context, if the "father" symbolizes the spirit, "mother" earth is the physical nurturer and provider. More simply put: nature is god to me.Maybe I just can't communicate but when I try to express this irl people always give me a blank stare.
The sun, bringer of light and life. The earth, nurturing womb of all creatures. The moon, essence of spirit and watcher of the night. As above, so below.As I walk in the forest, so too does the forest walk with me. The sun kisses my cheek and warms my heart and in all this I find myself before god. (for clarification, not god in the christian sense)
>>973722Have you read Emersons Nature? If not, you should.
By my deeds I honour him; V8!
>>973399>dont talk to me or my pupper ever again.jpg
>>973399>/out/s thoughts on religion?>whats your religion? is it tied to your /out/ings? Yup. As a kid, me and my dad used to do harescrambles and trail rides on sundays. Became a running joke that motocross was our religion pf sorts, and our dedication and obsession turned it into one.>Even got the pops to male fun of a muslim at the Millville national; guy went down on his blanket to pray, and my dad threw a towel down and prayed to the Holy Schmitt jump.
>>973804Kek your dad sounds like a goof
>>973806Whole family are goofs. I love it though, beats being boring or being the (((offended))) type.
I have my beliefs, they are all a bit tricky to express. Buy nature is a pretty good expression of whatever it is. I certainly don't think /it/ gives a dam, or that it's possible to personify it. However, I'm certainly subject to it and respect it. Going /out/makes me feel a little closer to it.
i think /out/ should work on developing our own pantheon of dieties. >gods for campfire luck and warmth>gods for cooking the bacon just right>god of blister protection>gods of comfy sleeping>god of not having to go pee in the middle of the night
>>973450That's true, but it was developed other way around historically. People had learned that they can sick by eating pork, so it was described as a law in bible to not eat pork etc.>>973451>Also, shut up.I second this.
>>973399i think being /out/ makes you more sure of a divine and less sure about "religion"whatever it is is most certainly too big for one word. as far as religion goes its all too big for any one book to cover what it is.the only thing i can be sure of is that anyone that says someone else is wrong is clearly wrong. /out/ is how i realized its there when i feel it the best. i think >>973814 and i are on a similar page except i think it does give a damn. and while i really don't want to personify it too much--- it most certainly has an absurd sense of humor.
>>973407>why? how? why not? explain?read a real book. end your superstition.
>>973451pretty much thisI just sorta do as the red Indians did when I'm /out/
>>973450>Jesus quit his jobWhat job was that? Being a rich prince?
>>973399 Atheist / Antitheist. Religion has no bearing on my /out/ experiences. I've seen & experienced nothing while out to suggest anything divine. Beautiful landscapes and amazing places not excluded.
>What's your religion?Don't have one.>What are your thoughts on religionNot my bag, don't care if someone else does so long as they use it to enrich their own lives and not to harm others.>Do you connect your religion with /out/?Don't have one, so no.
>>973991Carpenter, you are thinking Muhammad.
>>974155No, he's thinking of Buddha.Jesus was the son of a carpenter, Muhammed was orphaned and raised by his uncle whom IIRC was a merchant. Buddha was a prince (or at least his mother was royalty according to most accounts)
>>974161They're all the same dude, dude.
>>974155>>974161Jesus was a rich young prince of royal bloodHe was heir to the throneWhen they asked him if he was king of the Jews, he said, "You have spoken correctly" (in the original Greek)
>>974163No, they're not.>>974172No, he wasn't.
>>974172Oh. Thats why he was born in a barn.
Socrates was the Jesus, Buddha, Mohamed, Lao Tzu, Bodidarma, Jim Jones of Philosophy. Like all the rest, he knew nothing.
>>974174Yes you are.
>>974186No you can't
>>974193Yet, I did.
>>974194But they didn't
>>974195So, they are.
>>974200So it appears.
>>974201But nothing is as it appears.
>>974203Be that as it may.
>>974205As it's always that way.
>>974163Holy shit, read a book.>>973865>our own pantheonThis could be fun...>dietiesYou lost me.>>973861>>973712Look, everyone! Edgy mobile posters! Point and laugh!>>973714You don't need the psychedelics; they're fun, but not ultimately necessary for communication.>>973789>(for clarification, not god in the christian sense)Former Wiccan here, I've come to realize all religions are pieces of the same puzzle. They all point to the same God, just via different paths.>>973954I'm about where you are, I think.>>973722I think nature, and the natural world, are merely extensions of the Divine into our physical plane. I do not worship nature or the earth, but am deeply respectful of both. I worship the creative force behind the uni(multi?)verse, haven't really found a religion that covers it so I'll just leave my faith unlabeled.
>>974216Holy shit is the best shit!
>>974178>believing the manger storyNazareth didn't even exist at that timeNazareth is a corruption of Nazirite, a sect of ancient Jews who didn't cut their hair
>>974223The fucks wrong with being born in a barn? Except that people are always having to tell you to close the door.
>christcucks debating trivial details of the religeous texts they stole from the jews. lelnah im only joking, do what ever you want.tfw your beloved countries flag is literally the symbol og a dead jew on a stick. SAD
>>974240they weren't stolen from the juice madgartigan. what we call christians were jews for 100 years or so, but as many jews believed in christ and many didn't, there eventually was a factional split between the jews who followed christ and ones who didn't. they didn't steal any of those texts, they were theirs to begin with. they just... added jesus.
>>974240And what is the symbol of your religion, or lack thereof?
>>974243i know, i know, i was just being needlessly inflammatory for the sake of comedy by acting like the stereotypical m´lady type kinda guy. i love religions, all religions, i dont believe in them but i find them fascinating. my leather bound bible is the only book i own that i actually give a shit about what happens to. but all the Abrahamic religions borrowed so much from each other as a means to gain political/military power at the time they were "relevant" its actually kind of hilarious >>974245well your kinda looking at the symbols in both my posts here bud. im not that "religious" if at all, in a sense of praying five times a day and not wearing mixed fabric, but i do agree with most of the values expressed through the sagas, like caring for your community, upholding personal hygiene, loving your friends and showing them how much you appreciate them, not making business with anyone you wouldn't trust to cook you dinner, making sure you've got enough firewood for winter, you know, basic life advice stuff, i draw a lot on the Hávamál texts
>>974256Here's my moral compass.
>>974262Oops. Wrong file.
>>974265And, of course, the mirror is so I can see who's lost.
>>974265makes more sense now. cheers
>>973399/out/ is my church
>>973399CatholicPope JP2 Was an advid /out/er
I consider the Silmarillion and Lord of the Rings my "religion," but it's not like I worship or pray or any of that crap. Whenever I'm faced with opposition or adversity, I always try to think about what a character in Tolkien's work did in a similar situation.
I frequently stand in awe of the natural world, but I don't really see anything divine or metaphysical in it.To me, that it wasn't "made" makes it all the more beautiful and worth protecting.
>>973865>gods for campfire luck and warmthThermon>gods for cooking the bacon just rightSwinthe>god of blister protectionDarntuffe>gods of comfy sleepingRestos>god of not having to go pee in the middle of the nightUrinisis>>973927I completely agree that religion is a manifestation of mankind's understanding of the way the world works, I'm just saying that even if the Bible isn't literally "the word of God", it's still a very significant historical, educational and morally guiding document. Science was supposed to add to our knowledge of the world, not make us forget everything we already knew.
everyone should at least pray to Saint Hubbins, the patron saint of quality footwear
>>974216I think the demon posters were joking, maybe not though maybe they are actually demons.also dont respond to everyone at once, it fucks with the thread
>>974240Why do you wear a sombrero around your neck?
Oh my, this is perfect for me!So I've recently had my own revelation of the Blood God, who takes joy in seeing those who help themselves by slaughtering for their own benefit. This means that hunting (and to a greater extent assassination) is a way to appease him and his rage. He loves carnivores and wishes to see blooded creatures die every day, which is enough to please him. As such, every time I'm out I make it a point to try and kill some form of animal (typically a bunny/squirrel/bird/etc.) then smear the blood on the highest tree I can climb so that my conduit to the heavens can be made.I haven't told anyone about this, as I'm sure they'd all wtf away from me, but it's been an enlightening experience.
>>974768Cause I just love tequila THAT much. I pray to a bag of tortilla chips every night before bed
>>973399I stay away from religious people when /out/ because they always end up ruining it. Can't tell you how many times summer camp got ruined by some religion.
>>973399CatholicSomewhat. I prefer to pray in isolation, and I like to think about pilgrimages I'll likely never get to make.I do and I don't. Many hundreds of years ago it may have been, but the modern Church feels like a very sedentary organization when you read about how it used to be. >>974172That's like saying King Charles II loved nature because he slept in an oak tree. Not a very insightful or intelligent reading of the story.
I live in the US, in the South, and my religious underpinnings are what most people consider pretty extreme/Christian.However, when outdoors, I do like doing this thing I read about from voudoun/animist religions where one claps their hands three times to summon their ancestors. I do that on the trail, or in the duck blind, and think of my Father.
>>974890>Not a very insightful or intelligent reading of the story.>Jesus was educated>He underwent rabbinical training>He consorted with rich people like Joseph of Arimathea and Nicomdemus>He goes to the high society wedding at Cana where he and his mother boss the servants around>He was a direct descendant of David and Solomon and heir to the thronePretty good for a poor carpenter from a city that didn't exist during his time
>>974904Well, I suggest that you read the story again and also consider the way it has been translated. The translation of Joseph's job would include that of carpentry but could also refer to various other types of craftsmen.>>974223 just because a language has two proper nouns that sound the same doesn't mean they are precisely related. Seeing that Nazareth describes a village, and Nazarite describes a particular sect of Judaism, it sounds like more than a simple "corruption"
I'm an agnostic atheist, but I feel like spirituality is an inherent part of being human. Maybe an evolutionary trait that developed along with higher cognitive functions, who knows. But I do believe that being disconnected from nature and the amazing world outside has contributed to the rise of atheism. Every time I go /out/ I feel a sense of something greater. But all the theologies I have been exposed to are clearly man made bullshit and nothing has stuck with me. But still. Thousands of generations and billions of people since the dawn of time have practiced some form of religion. Were they all wrong?I think it is awfully arrogant to think we actually know anything about the universe and its inner workings. I don't agree with modern religion, but I respect those who practice them.
>>973530No, but a heathen anon here
I rarely post anymore, but I couldn't ignore this thread. I really do need to leave this place for good.I was raised on the Ozark Plateau, and my family and I are Baptist Christians.>Westboro BaptistThey're deluded and crazy. Don't let them be what you conceive Christianity as, because they're completely mad.The wilderness and outdoors, to me, are living proof that God is real and He has created all things. I don't need someone to throw a bunch of facts at me to prove me otherwise, I leave that to apologists. When I hike and camp, I usually play worship songs on my little tin whistle, read the Bible, and pray. My worship is not only those three things, but mostly the admiration of the beautiful creation of God and the realization that the unclean ways of the world distract me from worshipping and being enveloped completely in the Lord's word and His ways. The wilderness is my escape from the world, my solace. I'm thankful for not only the life I've been given, but the wonderful and mysterious ways of nature. Through Him, I am given Life, and through Life, I worship Him.While I may not agree with how some of you perceive God, or religion in general, I respect your decisions, and I hope that not only you've thought through your decision over eternity entirely, but that you are also happy with your decision and worship.
>/out/s thoughts on religion?Fundamental to humanity. All civilizations have it. It gives us a something to strive for. It serves as a moral guide.>whats your religion? is it tied to your /out/ings? I'm Catholic>do you connect your religion with /out/?Going /out/ is like a confirmation of my religion. When I go out and see the world that God created for us, I just feel so thankful, unworthy and awe-struck. It's a moving experience when you see an amazing site.
>>976016I really liked reading this, thanks.
>>973399I'm a catholic... I'm young haven't had a spiritual connection with God yet.
>>976034Absolutely. God works in mysterious ways, my friend. May He bless your life with His presence, as He has mine>>976036I'm the fella from >>976016I would certainly pray about it. Pray that God reveal Himself to you in a way that you would want to follow HimAlong with that, reading the Word def couldn't hurt. That and prayer is the lifeline to a fulfilled life in Christ
>>974764>dont respond to everyone at once, it fucks with the threadhownew.ruIt most certainly does not; replying to multiple people in one post just helps keep the thread alive. If I had made a post for each reply, we'd be eight posts closer to bump limit (well, seven, resultant from this post of clarification).
>>975140My views are similar to yours. I think there is a God, but I don't think any religion really explains it. Maybe some have come close, but none really hits the mark. This is compounded by the fact that as religions get written and rewritten and revised and translated ad infinitum, they get distorted from what they originally were. I also don't think that, if there is a God, that they sit on their sky throne all day tallying up the rights and wrongs you've done until you die. I think of God and the creation of the universe as a researcher conducting an experiment, where he has supplied the conditions necessary for his experiment and is observing how things go. The conditions supplied are basically the laws of physics which dictates how our universe can behave and the initial matter and energy for things to happen. Now he is just observing the results. I like to think that he is at least fond of us, in the same way that students in a lab can get attached to the Daphnia or yeast they use in their experiments, or maybe even the way you can get attached to characters in the Sims. The reason why we still have natural disasters, atrocities, etc is not because he is angry with us or hates us, but because interfering would alter the course of our existence and skew results. I like to think that we have at least impressed him in some way that makes him proud of us. Maybe out of 100 trials we are the only universe to develop complex life. The more I learn about just how complex and convoluted the universe is, the more confident I become that something set this mess in motion. I don't buy that all of the interactions that exist in nature, down to the subatomic level, could have happened by accident.I also think the fact that humans have tended to be religious throughout their history is significant. Really makes you think.
>>976283Forgot my pic.
>>976016Same about the outdoors but im pagan, pagan is literally the worship of nature and the metaphysical properties of it though
>>973399Catholic.I believe that nature is a gift and we are to be stewards of it. That plus I can't go camping for more than a week because Mass.
>>976016>The wilderness and outdoors, to me, are living proof that God is real and He has created all things.ask yourself how often you:1. see and talk with an angel (with wings and so on)2. how often you experienced luckIt was pure coincidence that created the current universe. luck/fortune is what you feel and see on regular basis, what created you and everything else.
I believe in Immortan Joe, I hope he takes me to the gates of Valhalla.
>>976808To answer your questions:1. I do not see angels, as they can't be seen. I do believe they exist, however. It's like air. I can't see it, but I know it's there2. I've never really been lucky. Everything happens for a reason, whether big or small.I don't agree that the universe just "happened". Do you believe that a sharp sword can just coalesce? No! That's preposterous! A blacksmith must create it! The same concept applies to the universe, my friend. Now, as I said in my original post, I will leave the science aspect of Christianity to the Apologists, like C.S. Lewis and Ravi Zacharias. This is all I will say about it, because this is a board to talk about the outdoors, not "who has a better worldview"Take care my friend, and if you have more questions, look up those apologists. They can justify it better than I.
>>974904What the fuck is this? I've read through my bible so many times and never seen anything like this. Of course I read the Jehovah's Witness' version. Ours is about as direct a translation of the old testament as it gets. Formal equivalence translation unless otherwise stated.. They preach all around the world and some non english speakers have too much trouble understanding formal equivalence.
>>975132Nazareth did not exist at the time of Jesus' birth>>976955>I've read through my bible so many times and never seen anything like thisThe gospels are not in the JW bible?