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How to ask women to model for you and not sound like a creep?

Found this on ig stories and im shook
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>>3222327
>you wan sum fuk bby?
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>>3222327
Dont sound like a creep, dont be a creep, bring sample of work, tell them to bring a company if they want.
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>>3222330
Plus:
1. Don’t go in there with the expectation that you’re going to get to fuck your model
2. Don’t ever touch your model without explicit permission to do so. This includes the obvious (grabbing her tits) and the less obvious (moving a strand of her hair out of her face)
3. If she declines the shoot, accept it and move on; don’t pressure her.
4. Ask her beforehand how naked she’s comfortable with getting. Don’t just ask during the shoot—you’re more likely to get a yes that way since she’ll feel a little bit more pressured to say yes (“because of the implication”), but you want to aim for zero pressure even if that means not getting to photograph tits.
5. Don’t make sexual jokes or comments during the shoot.
6. Don’t act offended if she seems a bit wary of you. Imagine yourself involuntarily wearing a t-shirt that says “POTENTIAL RAPIST” in red comic sans and act accordingly.

All of these more or less fall under the “don’t be a creep” advice the previous guy gave, but you’re on 4chan so you might not know how to not be a creep.
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>>3222327
Wow!
The only abuse l see is her to my eyes. She is one of those Model Gheyhem prima donas that l pretty much despise. I have had a few get angry when l say l will not shoot models with tats. It is the ruin of the industry. I personally do not care if l ever shoot a nude ever again, if l have to deal with these skanks. That she seems to think that her not making it is related to the photos is laughable.
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Always be straightforward, honest about your artistic ideas, be a nice guy, tell her you have an IG account (oh that helps a lot), and I always try to squeez in the conversation that I am married and have daughters — that they may help during the shoot.

With this tactic my no’s are around 20% or even less.

I’m talking about total strangers walking by the street, grociery store, bank, mall, park.

A biz card may help if she’s doubtful. But always mention your Ig/Fb accounts. For some reason that seals the deal.
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>>3222378
What about reaching out to women on ig? Does it come off as creepy if you dm them asking to shoot some photos? I usually tell them i like their look and would like to take theyre portrait
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Just ask dude, you never know who's down to create these days - I'm like a 4/10 on a great day and in perfect lighting but whenever I see a girl I need to shoot I.just.ask.

1. Don't be you
2. Be a professional
3. Have good pictures
4. Don't ask when half asleep like I did and put typos into every word.

>>3222381
If it's on insta squeeze in some words about portfolio building, if he/she runs a promotion account talk about brand development.

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>>3222337
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>>3222372
>I don’t find her personally fuckable, so I don’t believe anyone has ever sexually harassed her
Jesus Christ, fuck right off.
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>>3222327
She's trashy as fuck looking though. Looks like a 5 dollar hooker.

Even though I am a female Photographer, I won't do nude photos. They always come off as a cheap way to get attention and are pretentious fake art
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>>3222337

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>>3222411
are you a qt?
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>>3222430
Here’s your shirt: >>3222429 >>3222402
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>>3222327
listen to me:
first of all ignore this >>3222337 beta disgraceful faggot, he don't know shit about women.
you're an alpha male and men are superior to stupid women.
you have to win her with your superior personality, masculinity and attitude
if she is down to fuck. make her your bitch and fuck the shit out her. don't forget to hit that g-spot
now she is yours, take fuck tons of photos however the fuck you want for free

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>>3222327
>her
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>>3222474
>don't forget to hit that g-spot
i see that you are also a haver of lots of sex,as this is exactly how we talk about the large amount of sex we have
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>>3222411
>pretentious fake art
show boobs for Art pls

Art boobs is not porno bb. Open bob for discourse of openness for disclosure.

Thanking you in advance of paps jpg. sweatpee stain lover :)
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>>3222327
>HMU Lets make some art
are sexually provocative images art?
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>>3222430
Nah bro. That's why I'm the photographer numb nuts
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>>3222398
you sound like a huge fag
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>>3222327
Uhhhh I’m not complaining.
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>>3222398
what was the end result?
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>>3222495
>i see that you are also a haver of lots of sex
of course i am, what mean by that you white motherfucker

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>>3222337
>but you want to aim for zero pressure
No I don't.

Are people aiming at zero pressure when dealing with me? Cause I sure as hell get some pressure from my employer, from my professors, from my friends, etc. . Like everyone else. You're an adult, you're supposed to deal with it and make your decisions. No environment, ever, is gonna be pressure-free and expectation-free.

My advice is be professional and clear cut. Ask her if she's willing to do whatever . If she agrees, do it. If she doesn't, move on. Let her decide, simple.

>Don’t act offended if she seems a bit wary of you
Of course I will, if she treats me like a creep because I'm a photographer. Would she not be offended if I treated her like a slut because she's a model?

The rest is sound though.
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>>3222327
she would not know art if it fell out of her ass
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>>3222558
tfw no boy(girl) friend with fem(thick) cock

>>3222572
Two projects planned, one coming close to shooting. (I underestimated how artsy this one was)
She's fun to work with, and looks hot as fuck so it's worth the trouble of dealing with a more extensive workload than just show up and shoot.
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>>3222607
Wut will you do with these photos?
How do you ease her into it?

Street amateur here, just wondering!

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>>3222337
That's creepy as fuk, though.
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>>3222594
hurr durr i'm the alpha male in this room XDD
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>>3222594
when was the last time you socialized with anyone other than your mummy, giannis?
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>>3222337

When shooting nudes, is it imperative to not look at her tits/vagina while youre directing her (not looking through the vf) or while shes undressing? How do you not at least glance down?
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>>3222815
Me: "Don't grope your model without permission"
You: "He's being entirely ridiculous by saying I'm not allowed to feel up women without their consent. I shall highlight his stupidity by implying that he also thinks you can't even look at them, because looking at a woman and grabbing at her are literally the same thing"
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>>3222594
>It's okay to pressure models into doing things they might not be comfortable with because my boss pressures me to do my job
I'm just saying you'll get better results--and make the world a slightly better place--if you do whatever you can to make your model comfortable instead of treating it like an exercise in imposing your will on someone else. People are more comfortable if expectations are set beforehand. It's not a big deal.
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>>3222429
did you add the extra jpeg to spite jared?
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>>3222381
I shoot mostly street and architecture and I'm at less than 2000 followers yet I still get the odd studio/portrait request from girls

You don't need to reach out to girls on ig, they'll come to you if you're even mildly popular
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>>3222398
This guy is right but he's clearly creepy as fuck

Don't talk like a rapist like this guy but take his advice
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>>3222830
What if i havent even quite broke 200 followers yet?
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>>3222838
Instagram better. It'll take you less than 5 months and maybe 150 posts to get to 2,000 followers
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>>3222844
>instagram better

care to elaborate?
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>>3222850
bot your shit up fampai
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>>3222850
>care to elaborate?
On what? Elaborate your question and you'll get a better response. You asked what to do if you have less than 200 followers- the answer is simple- get more followers. If you're trying to figure out how to do that then google knows more than I do but from my half a year of <20 to >1600 followers the key components roughly in order were-
>Post good content for instagram- not just any old shit you think looks nice
>Post very specifically to the audience you're acquiring
>Like a few hundred posts per day, comment on as many as you have time for. Form small connections with people and you'll have WAY more engagement
>Get featured a few times a week, focus on bigger accounts

I still consider myself trash and I'll spend maybe 15 minutes every 2 days on Instagram. Even with this tiny investment you should be getting a handful of followers with every post and featured every few days

If you're lazy and want to get there faster do some combination of
>Bot the shit out of it
>Create multiple accounts and promote yourself like the celebrities
>Pay for an audience
>Pay to get featured

I'd avoid the last two because they increase your engagement marginally if at all. Comments and likes and sharing and saving are what matter. Stories too. Exactly the same as facebook etc
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>shook
can we we not say this
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>>3222406
You do know many of us shoot nudes, or used to for the fun of it, and not to get laid.
That woman is still a skank. The only ones harassing her are her own meth/heroin demons.
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>>3222327
>>3222775
>>3222776
>>3222822
Don't listen to these stupid roasties. Do your own thing expect putting your hands on their boobs and stuff.

Also stop shooting for people that are perpetually offended by everything in society. You don't need that kinda shit in your life only to get reported for molestation 50 years later.
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how do I ask her open bob
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>>3222821
I don't think he was making aspersions about your advice, but rather asking for further advice on what level of oggling is permissable and/or unavoidable when shooting nudes.
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Man, just do it calmly and politely. And yeah, it helps if you can pull out a few photos and show the girl that you’re looking to do a shoot similar to the photos you’re showing her. I’ve only ever been asked by a few guys and I’ve never thought they were creeps except for one guy who was just simply wanting to take boring pictures in immoodest clothing. Even then, if another girl was into doing things like that, she wouldn’t be creeped out as long as you’re carrying everything out professionally. Discuss things with her beforehand. If you want to do shoots with minimal clothing, you tell her that beforehand. It saves you time and she doesn’t think you’ve got alterior motives like if you were to bring up nudity mid shoot. So yeah, just be professional and polite.
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>>3223522
If he was actually asking in good faith:

Looking at the model is generally fine, so long as you’re not staring three inches away from her clit while rubbing the front of your pants.
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>>3222815
If you've been to a life drawing before that's a good example of how to behave.
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>>3222327
1. Start by not being a creep. Have genuine, non-creep reasons for wanting her to model for you.

2. Be able to show her that you know what you're doing. This starts by actually knowing what you're doing, followed by having good (non-creepy) photos to be able to show.

3. Be able to explain why you want to shoot with her and what you want to shoot. So why do you want to shoot her in particular? If the most specific you can be is that she's hot, that's a problem. And it helps if you can show (non-creepy) examples of the sorts of photos you want to shoot with her.
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>>3222591
first time I browse this board for more than a minute, and I'm already triggered by that pic
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>>3222398
>Howdy little human
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guy: "I'm a photographer get your tits out"
girl: "okay I'm an attention whore"
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>>3222429
> Potential
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>>3222327
>and im shook
for starters you can stop talking like you're 15
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>>3222327
Don't hire hoes that look like this.

Not sure why anyone would want shoot someone looking like this in the first place.

If they don't look professional, they're probably not very professional
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>>3222337
>take off shirt as soon as she gets there

Noted. Thanks.




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