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Optical or sensor stabilization for stills?
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>>3309914
Both.
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A good hand and knowledge how to avoid it.
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>>3309930
Good luck with your boring photos.
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>>3309939
pump the ISO, open the aperture, and raise the shutter speed. you should know how to avoid shakings :)
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>>3309914
Sensor IS for normal and wide lenses, since efficiency is not super important (one rarely needs 1/2s handheld exposures) and non-IS lenses can be made smaller and cheaper.
Dual IS for telephoto lenses, since you want maximum efficiency here and sensor IS doesn't work too well for long telephotos.
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>>3309942
ISO 100 or less. If you want hipster film grain, do it on your own time, kid.
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>>3309942
Yeah, enjoy having to bump up to ISO 800+ with a telephoto lens once the weather gets a bit cloudy.
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>>3309920
this

also:
optical is almost always 2 axis (two-way shift) whereas sensor is almost alway 5-axis (2way shift, 2way tilt and one rotation)
Sensor is more important and powerful
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>>3309954
>>3309962

learn how to photography. At this point you guys are just gearfagging /p/
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Physical.

Optical and sensor image stabilization rob you of sharpness even at relatively fast shutter speeds and are a total meme at this point.
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>>3309970
nice counter-argument, faglord.

if you actually shot with telephoto lenses you'd know why nobody wants non-IS ones anymore.
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>>3309976
>Optical IS is not physical
>Sensor-shift IS is not physical

Dude what

>rob you of sharpness

Observably and measurably false.
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>>3309979

I was talking about a tripod, brainlet.

And

>Observably and measurably false.

Okay. https://blog.mingthein.com/2016/08/19/stabilisation-is-good-but-only-up-to-a-point/
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>>3309977
>you'd know why nobody wants non-IS

just spotted the canon fag. btw, VR takes your sharpness away. learn how to handle your camera properly.
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>>3309993
>VR takes your sharpness away

So does high ISO.
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>>3309994
yeah, you're truly a Canon fag. amazing.
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>>3310004
What does someone's preference of manufacturer have to do with how wrong you've been ITT?
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>>3309977
The old Canon 400 f5.6 is still one of the more popular lenses amongst the hardcore birding crowd, just saying.
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>>3310015
because you clearly have problems with ISO. Even Sony has already got away with it
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>>3309977
>if you actually shot with telephoto lenses you'd know why nobody wants non-IS ones anymore.

I've spent more time with non-IS and IS telephoto lenses with the IS engaged/disengaged than you ever will.

What now, bitch?
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>>3309977
I use a non IS 300mm on APS-C, sensor shift stabilization. Nothing to worry about, mate.
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>>3310028
Because people own them. Stab is getting thrown out of the equation at 1000sec anyway for birbing. But stab is better. No questions about that.
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>>3310135
Ibis stab is so insane that I could run a shitty adapter on my MFT and get better pix than some fag with a better camera. I might be hitting pecereptual megapix of like 11 and can still beat the full frames with those lenses., But then I drink so I bought it because of IBIS so I can get pics in the morning and shoot 2 seconds handheld in the dark.
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>>3309914
I've been thinking aboout stabilization over the last year or so (I only do stillls).

I have a tight budget so when I wanted to upgrade my kit lens I ended up getting an older, slightly faster lens with better optics and build quality (non VR). For low light I have fast primes. I would like a fast wide prime with VR but... they don't exist really and would be expensive if they did.

The only lens I have now with stabilization is a 70-300mm. I believe the system works at around 300Hz so avoid shutter speeds around this number to avoid the smear/double image that can sometimes occur.

For me the main advantage of VR on long lenses is the effect in the viewfinder with erratic subjects. A super sharp photo of a birbs foot isn't as impressive as the wingspan filling the frame with a little softness (inb4 git gud).

tl;dr VR/IS is cool. If it's not cool just switch it off.
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>>3310139
>pecereptual megapix
Hi Tony :)
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>>3310149
Get a body that does it and use shit lenses.
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>>3310183
but i got a d7000 senpai desu is good yes?
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>>3310196
I'm not going to pretend mirrorless is great but the feature gap is painful in spite of all the flaws.
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"VR is bad" is the hottest of photography takes

dude probably shows up in video threads with "4k is softer than 1080p here this blog proves it"
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>>3310209
did you read the thread name? STILLS
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>>3310209

But vr is bad.




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