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could have [easily] done more damage than 59/500? he seemed pretty proficient for a 64yo with no military training
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If anything he killed more than he should have. He was firing blind, supposedly untrained. From his perspective the crowd would be nothing but a shadowy blob and he would be blinded by the lights.
Unless he was actually well trained and had some way of seeing what he was looking at like a marker.
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And the person replying to Woods is an idiot.
His execution was flawless. He smuggled 23 guns into a hotel room and went undetected for a year.
He possibly even had a plan to escape and disappear completely.
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>>144366467
>plan to escape...from his own room
did he have a zip cord from window to the parking lot?
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>>144366299
He bought some guns, then went to a tall place and shot them. There are hundreds of places where he could have done this. Any event with a few walls around it to slow people. It's shocking that people think it is
a) hard to operate an automatic weapon
b) hard to find a place above a crowd of people
c) hard to not tell anyone before you do this
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>>144366026
For all of the screeching about the things, the bumpfire stock probably reduced the death toll. Without it, he'd have been picking out specific targets in the crowd, aiming, and probably getting a fairly high percentage of upper torso hits (ie the part of the human body where most of the vital organs are). With it he was just spraying fire in the general direction of the crowd.
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>>144366642
Fuck off (((costanza)))
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>>144366026
According to the official story, he shot for about 10 minutes, then stopped, even though the cops didn't break in until after an hour of silence later. So yes, he could have killed more if he'd simply kept shooting. Unless the official story is crap and he didn't do it at all.
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>>144366886
It was in this time i think he planned to escape but something happened.
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>>144366886
No here's what happened

1. Starts shooting at crowd
2. At 10:15 Mexican security guard shows up outside his door
3. Steve thinks he's fucked and will get raped in the ass in prison, shoots 200 rounds through the door then blows his head off

If not for the security guard distracting him there'd be a lot more dead imo
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>>144366886
spooked by security guard who had key card at 9-10 minutes. police allegedly at the stairwell, so would have been on door 1 minute later if security guard didn't spook him. he shot because it was probably too hard to focus on shooting crowd (+ noise) while trying to watch intrusions at doors
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>>144367103
Police were on the 32 floor, stairwell...so maybe 1 minute from getting to his door had mexican not gotten to it
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>>144366026
He could have killed a lot more with as simple a change as using .308, and the only thing he did that might have been challenging was move his suitcases from his car to his room.
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What i think his escape plan was like. He was going to just walk out the front door, leave Vegas maybe fly his plane to another location and leave the country.
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>>144367234
what about the car full of chemicals?
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>>144367726
Distraction
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>>144366724
Unless he had a scope and night-vision, at 400m he was firing blindly into the crowd no matter what technique he used.
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>>144367986
He intended to set it off in the hotel as he was leaving: the Hans method.
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I wonder if he intended to try to escape via service elevator next to the suite's door? i still find it hard to believe anyone thought they could just walk out. if he wanted to walk out he shouldn't have shot for an entire 9 minutes
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>>144366642
>hard to operate an automatic weapon
Motherfucker have you ever shot a full giggle M4A1 before? that shit is hard to control. If it was a bumpfire even moreso. This whole thing stinks of an alphabet agency/ false flag
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>>144368843
The cops didn't come for him for awhile something like 40 minutes.
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>>144366299
>>144366724
>>144368860
t. Idiot
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>>144366592
He had better than that, a hose
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They showed their anger at conspiracy theorists throughout the pressers. All it takes is releasing one of the many possible shreds of evidence that could dispute the theories. They haven't released it because they are after more suspects. Once you accept that fact, start questioning how the suspect(s) escaped. It is far fetched that amateurs were able to pull this off, escape the city with a manhunt underway at nearly every casino on the south strip, and get away with it (thus far). Something much larger is at play here, and /pol/tards are pulling the threads to unravel it all
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>>144366026
@LTC_Hunter is a faggot. You know what to do people
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>>144366026
Why would he disregard conspiracy theories as a rule? There are plenty of plausible conspiracy theories that have a lot of evidence that supports them. There's a difference between a believable and unbelievable conspiracy theory
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Was "Frank Sinatra" that important?
How much danger where they actually in?
Where they (and the airport) really target as well?
Saw this being mentioned in some posts here but nothing more after that
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a trained assassin who assassinated 59 random people
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>>144367234
What fucking escape plan, car full of tannerite, fucking booked room in his name.
Alerts ever LE agency within 100 miles to surround the Mandalay bay.

64yr old alcoholic on ant-depressants.

he would've gone far.

Ridiculous,
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>>144370340
So what if it was booked in his name he probably had another id.
Why did he send money overseas? Why did he wear gloves?
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I mean he just sprayed as much ammunition as he could into a large crowd.

He was clever in that he picked the perfect firing position and barricaded himself in. Likewise the large number of loaded rifles he had also made it easier for him by allowing him to reload less and by letting him rapid fire one large capacity magazine after another without as much fear of his guns failing due to overheating. Basically he picked an idiot proof method of killing a lot of people.

However a good shot with one or two scoped semi automatic rifles and a bunch of loaded magazines could have killed more people in the time he had by picking targets and aiming central mass.
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>>144366026
"Authorities believe that the guard drew the attention of mass murderer Stephen Paddock away from the chaos below and toward the hallway outside his room.

The guard, Jesus Campos, was shot in the leg while checking on the alarm and according to a police-reported timeline, Paddock never fired on the crowd below again.

The alarm from a room "a number of doors down" from Paddock's likely was a coincidence, McMahill told CNN's "The Situation Room with Wolf Blitzer." The door was not forced open, had been open for a while, and Paddock didn't have the keys to that room. McMahill said that door either had been left open or didn't shut completely."

It could have been easily in hundreds if not for an amazing coincidence.
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>>144366299
>If anything he killed more than he should have. He was firing blind, supposedly untrained.
The very fact he used bump stocks and surefire mags shows he was an amateur at best. He could have done much worse with just a bit more training and knowledge and a couple of regular ol' off the shelf ARs.

One of the newest videos out shows the start of the attack. He was so amateur he needed to verify his dope. He fired 3 individual rounds into the crowd. A huge part of the crowd scattered well before he started pumping rounds out with a different firearm equipt with a bump stock. If he knew what he was doing his first volley would have been with multiple successive rounds.
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>>144369941
We should be angry at conspiracy theories, because they are fucking bullshit, fed by jews to keep the intelligent chasing their fucking tails

There is no magic and mystery, conspiracy theories are modern day fairy tales.

Amazing how people capable of driving to work and feeding themselves believe in all kinds of bullshit. Including that some shadow fuking team staged a mass murder just to get something that 1% of gun owners have, a bump fire stock.

OMFG.
<---- This motherfucker justified when morons, think that a mossad action squad based jump.

Stop with the dirty jew tricks.

Where is my fucking wall? Still need a travel ban. Serve me up.
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>>144370018
lmao got 'em on strings gunga
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>>144370340
The other thing
>64 old alcoholic on anti-depressants
So he was able to do what he did but not get away? Underestimating him after he did what he did? Idiot.
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>>144370522
>He wanted the money to go to a loved one or close friend
>Guns become hot when firing entire magazine's within seconds
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>>144366026

Yeah just by flying one of his planes into the crowd
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>>144366299
Literally just bring a rifle and tracer rounds and you can get some distance from a building reasonably ranged immediately.
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So closing the door is barricading yourself in? Pretty fortified
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>>144370522
Oh shit, real pro there, he wore fucking gloves. Sign of trained assassin.
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>>144370815
>he cared about loved ones( overseas mind yoi)
>killed a large number of people
>implying gun handles get hot.
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>>144370922
To not leave prints you retard shill.
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>>144370970
>To not leave prints you retard shill.
Are you fucking retarded, you dont think his DNA, Video Cameras, Credit Card, witness, car in the parking garage, paper trail a mile fucking long, did the deed in a place where he was well know and a regular.

But no, the gloves and no finger prints, makes him a ghost.
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Some people are also suggesting he might have been cleaning the room as he was attacking.
Why would you do that?
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>>144366467
>His execution was flawless
>even had a plan to escape
>dies instead of escaping
>flawless execution
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>>144371095
He got the room for FREE AND THOUSANDS IN SUSHI.

HE FUCKED THEM LOL
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>>144371064
You don't understand because you are an idiot. He was going to change identities. Thats the point.
He never had been finger printed! No criminal record you fucking fool.
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>>144370714
could be the lesser shot from the revolver before he ends it. you can hear it in the two final shots. sounds about the right amount of time.
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>>144368586
To much ambient light for N.V. The best option is a green reticule optic and to aim each shot one by one. Slower aimed shots ensures accuracy and will be more confusing than the distinct sound of near auto fire.
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>>144369941
the tunnels that are under the strip where the homeless live. There are a few entrances to the tunnels by that area.
>t.local
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>>144366467
>His execution was flawless
No it wasn't. It was mediocre at best.
>He smuggled 23 guns into a hotel room
Have you ever been to Vegas? The casinos are huge and have 4-7 thousand rooms. Nobody is watching people coming and going with suitcases. You could make 100 trips, mingled with hundreds or thousands of people walking in between the casino, restaurants and their rooms and nobody would bat and eye.
>and went undetected for a year.
Why would he be detected? He did nothing illegal. He had no criminal record. No record of mental illness. His guns were all legal and bought via background checks. His bump stocks were all legal. His magazines were all legal. The tannerite was also legal.
>He possibly even had a plan to escape and disappear completely.
And he didn't even come close to escaping because his plan was so shit. As soon as he set of the smoke alarms they knew exactly where he was. Vegas does not fuck around with casinos and fire ever since the MGM fire in the 80s that killed a bunch of guests.

If the fire alarm goes off they are instantly alerted to the room and they investigate immediately. This guys was no pro. He took a long time planing but made really dumb mistakes and thankfully didn't know what he was doing with firearms or this could have been much worse.
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>>144371276
>manage to execute the worst shooting in us history
>mediocre
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>>144371198
He was an IRS Agent you moron they have his fucking prints.

Jimmny Christmas, go to bed.
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>>144370844
When they were trying to make that a deal earlier tonight I didn't understand why it mattered that he bought tracer rounds. I never really thought of them as spotters. Apparently he had them but for whatever crazy reason, didn't use them. (Schnitt show) Take the source as you will.
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>>144367103

but the police have said he wasn't planning suicide... thus he must've had some escape plan...

what did he think was going to happen after he fired automatic weapons from his hotel room for 10 minutes? was he expecting to just walk out and get in the elevator?

i don't see how this random security guard would've changed those plans in any way.
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>>144371198
So he was going to clean the room to keep them from getting his prints and DNA? You know he had multiple houses around the country not to mention multiple vehicles and planes?

Jesus, you're a moron.
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>>144371214
Was in tended for >>144368506
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>>144371514
No. Listen carefully. The new location he was moving to would not have any connection to the crime scene. No prints on the guns. He changes identity and moves to asia.
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>>144366886


Nobody was watching the outside of the building. During that silence the team escaped, hoisted to the roof.
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>>144370844
>tracer rounds
They point both directions.
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>>144366026
>randomly spray bullents on a field of 25,000 festival goers
>""""trained professional""""
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>>144371355

A flawless mass shooting could have gotten 200+ easily. If Paddock was trained in marksmanship and had a properly ranged and scoped semi auto rifle, he could have effortlessly placed rounds directly into individuals laying on the ground in fright.

It is mediocre because he just magdumped towards the crowd and missed 95% of the time. Yes he killed a lot of people, but in terms of having elevated position+lots of guns and ammo+huge crowd, it was not a very good execution if he was going for an absurd high score.
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>>144371762
Yeah exactly. He picked the location and the strategy so people would have trouble finding him. Giving him time to escape.
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>>144371762
Yeah its kind of a fucking retarded idea if you are planning on escaping.
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>>144371512
He thought he would run out of the place with all the other terrified guests and disappear. He didn't realize he would be discovered so quickly. He probably wouldn't have been discovered so quickly had he taken better precautions to prevent the smoke alarms from going off.

As soon as the alarms in his room went off security knew which room to investigate. They are very concerned about fire in Vegas after the MGM fire in 1980 that killed 85 people. They probably sent the guard before they even knew there was a shooting. They couldn't hear the shooting from inside the casino. They may have been able to near check in, by some of the main door into the building but they probably had no idea it was coming from into the hotel.

My guess is he thought he had another 5-10 minutes to walk out and disappear into the crowd. He probably had a plan to drive the vehicle packed with explosives through a fence right up to the fuel tanks. Walk away and then blowup the car.

Those fuel tanks are on the grounds of the executive airport. he may have had plans to take a plane and crash it into a casino or try to stay low and fly away to safety
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I'm inclined to believe he was probably radicalized by ISIS, but it just doesn't make sense for some random old faggot to turn to Islam. It's basically the 9/11 of our times as far as the mystery and sketchiness behind it.
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>>144371790
Not sure why americans get triggered by this. Ever seen a crime scene? Its dusted for prints even when known criminals are evolved.
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>>144371214
>near auto fire

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cp0aaDwUZ9o

Slidefire stocks are very temperamental. But when they do work the cyclic rate is higher.
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>>144366026
Getting really sick of all this fucking conspiracy shit.

Pea-brained retards who literally think there's no way to argue second amendment rights unless literally every shooting is a false flag
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>>144371972
>He probably wouldn't have been discovered so quickly had he taken better precautions to prevent the smoke alarms from going off.

Was it only the smoke alarm in his room that went off? Or several others on that floor? Because if it's the former, then it's really fucking weird that he'd plan out all of this ahead of time so meticulously, but then skimp out on something so crucial to cover his ass.
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>>144366026
A "trained assassin" wouldn't have used a bump stock for starters. He could've killed a lot more with a good scope and just magdumping targets with a semi-auto.
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>>144366026
>he shot the fuel tanks at the airport

Any professional would've known the tanks could not be penetrated from that distance (~2000 ft). This is what makes me think it was an amateur.
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>>144371508
>he bought tracer rounds. I never really thought of them as spotters.
That's their only purpose.
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>>144371972

i guess i'm just an amateur, but i'd assume if i took an automatic weapon up into a casino hotel... bashed out the windows and started firing into a large crowd... i'm thinking i'm gonna be found out in a couple of minutes at most...

why on earth would i have 2375 guns in the room if i'm making my escape in a matter of a couple of minutes?

maybe just really bad planning on his part... but the pieces just don't add up to even basic logic.

i bring a lot of guns if i'm going to do a lot of shooting. if i do a lot of shooting, i'm not escape in a couple of minutes.
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>>144371762
>They point both directions.
What does that mean? People receiving incoming fire can't seen tracers. The element that ignites is embedded in the hollow base of the round.
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>>144372124
>takes 23 guns into a room
>shoots conservative republicans
>republicans start switching their attitude to guns almost immediately.
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>raining bullets from a building into a crowd with bump stocked rifles is difficult
No wonder you're all neets.
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>>144372187
He did penetrate the tank with 1 shot. Others hit but didn't go through. Those takes aren't very thick, especially near the top. Not that it matters. Jet A isn't going to ignite by being hit by gunfire.
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>>144372168

part of this might have been his fantasy that he was beginning his career as an international assasin...

someone i know swears he was paid to do this and his arrogant 'gambler' mentality made him think he could get away with it... and he was left hanging by people that were supposed to help.
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>>144372213
>if i do a lot of shooting, i'm not escape in a couple of minutes.
Why? He clearly wasn't going to bring anything with him that would give him away as the shooter. He probably had plans to take a hand gun and get in that car full of explosives to go do some more damage.

Maybe his plan was to get the tanks to go up forcing people that were fleeing to stop in the street and from there he'd drive right into them and then shoot the tannerite and blow in the midst of a few thousand people.
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>>144372225
Not talking about people being shot at
>be me
>be leo
>see tracer rounds
>Oh he's in THAT room
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>>144372239
What if some people are unhappy and wish to kill others?

Why can't you fucking normalfags understand this?

Killing people is good. Most people deserve to die. """Conservatives""" are generic retards that loosely practice some religion and push whatever politics their preacher tells them too. They're conserving whatever morals progressives pushed the previous generation.
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>>144372225
It would've shown a straight line to his position every time he fired one.
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>>144371806
This

He could have killed way more than 59 people if he would have used a higher power rifle like a .308 and taken well aimed single shots.

It would not be hard to take more than 60 well aimed shots in the span of several minutes.
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>>144372213
Its amazing how people fall into the same trap, of attempting to rationalize the behavior of a mad man.

There is nothing to understand, whatever "planning" he did was in the context of a lunacy.

Like stopping for the enchilida recipe, or having drinks right before you decide to murder innocent people. Not normal well though out things.


More than likely he had a form of degenerative dementia, given his family history, he was in the later stages.

He seemed like a real prick, and probably fantasized about killing people for a long time, dementia kicks, loss of inhibition and he finally goes through with it.

Classic case.
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>>144366026
Why not do it on the roof? He'd be caught in a room or on the roof, but why in a room, when it is common knowledge is you break glass in vegas security is otw?roof would give a couple seconds bail time. Stupid all around, and bump fire stocks are shit for accuracy. All around a shit show. Who really did this?
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>>144372555
How the fuck would you see them? You can't see them if they are being fired in your direction. That's the whole point. To allow YOU to see where your rounds are going without the enemy being able to see where you are.
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>he made amateur mistakes
according to who? lolol
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>>144366026
You fucking taco jockeys better not be sushiposting in this thread too so help me comp
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>>144371999
Checked.
>Bumpfire stocks are very temperamental.
I have used them, they are shit and will beat the hell out of your sights and any indents with weak springs. Also, the fire rate will slow when the riffle gets hot.
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>>144372669
He would've been a lot more visible from the ground and a helicopter could've taken him out.
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>>144372308
As far as mass shooters go, booking a room overlooking a large crowd is advanced planning.
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>>144366026
really, you think the plan was all wrong?
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>>144372649
>wanted the recipe for later
Lmao idiot read your first post. You underestimated him because he was old alcoholic and on meds.
He would have walked right past you on the street and you would have never known. According to you he couldn't even do what he did.

Get out here kiddo.
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Maybe he accidentally shot himself when he was planning on escaping, so he finished himself off since he knew he was done for in that condition, that would explain the 2 pistol shots that were heard and the getaway car.
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>>144372695
He didn't know how to clear a fucking jam.
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>>144372695
Using a bump stock at all.
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>>144366026
If he was going for pure high score, he was amateur. Any one of the scoped rifles in the pictures, without bump fire stock, using aimed fire, could have produced WAY higher numbers. Hitting a person at 400yds is very doable with some practice, using an AR. With a decent scope a good shooter would have a hit almost every shot. He was 'spraying and praying' down into a crowd so it was still effective. A really good shooter with a dialed in scope could be making head shots.
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>>144367103
If you're already psycho enough to do what paddock supposedly did, what's a knock on the door? Shoot through the door, he would know he's been made. Whole thing makes no sense, especially with what he supposedly was gambling.
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>>144372694
Other people could see them. Jesus fucking stop
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>>144372694
If you can't figure it out yet, there's no help for you. Stay away from firearms and sharp objects.
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>>144372634
>It would've shown a straight line to his position every time he fired one

NO! NO! NO11!!11!!
AGAIN THE WHOLE POINT OF TRACERS IS TO ALLOW THE SHOOTER TO SEE WHERE ROUNDS ARE GOING BUT AT THE SAME TIME PREVENT THE ENEMY SEEING WHERE THE ROUNDS ARE COMING FROM.

TRACERS CAN ONLY BE SEEN IN A SOMEWHAT NARROW ANGLE BEHIND THE SHOOTER!!!!!
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HOW CAN A PERSON WHO ISNT A PROFESSIONAL CIA ASSASSIN KILL PEOPLE WITH GUNS

MY FRIEND IS A MARINE DRILL INSTRUCTOR AND SAID YOU NEED AT LEAST 5 YEARS TRAINING BEFORE BEING ABLE TO SHOOT FISH IN A BARREL

QUESTION EVERYTHING!!
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>>144372334
.223 does not melt jet fuel.
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Stop shitposting slavcuck, you're drunk.
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>>144367234
He could not have made it out, i wonder if they release his blood tests. That dude was pumped, i'll bet 10 to 1
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>>144373054
he was using tracers? why even?
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>>144372883
A TRUE PROFESSIONAL PLANTED THE JAMMED GUN TO CONFUSE THE SHEEPLE MASSES
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>>144373308
He didn't use them, he had them in the room though.
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>>144373188
He had 40 minutes to calmly walk out and just walk away. Even an autist could do this.
He was probably going to rely on his "lol old guy" appearance.
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>>144373137
I'm not shitposting. I seem to be the only person here who knows what they are talking about. All these idiots talking about tracers being seen in both directions are morons.

There are some types of tracers used in training that can be seen by everyone and they are brighter than normal. People in the US can buy regular ol tracers than cannot be seen but from an angle from the shooters position.

I'm not even saying he used tracers. There was no reason to use them in this situation.
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>>144371276

This. Could have MUCH worse. Just firing in small controlled and aimed bursts instead of full auto would have MUCH worse.
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>>144368843
And why have that many rifles? How many other cats were there? Barrel swaps for 1 or 3 guns but 10+? He isn't rambo or solid snake
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>>144373376
You can see footage of tracer fire on the net from the side it looks like star wars.
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>>144373318
Next level false flagging.
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>>144369455
It is difficult. Try goin to the range one time.
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>>144366026

A good chunk of that 500 injured likely came from the crowd trampling over themselves.
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>>144373447
reminds me of the river bridge battle in apocalypse now
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>>144373418
What the fuck does this guy have to do with anything? God fucking damnit you newfags should really just stick to movies or your woah this note threads on /v/
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>>144373376
t. noguns and never shot or handled one IRL
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>>144371806
Also didn't help that he wasted time shooting at a fuel tank that wasn't going to explode no matter how much he shot it.
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>>144370251
Why didn't anything else happen? We know how lax security ia, so do the alphabets, so what went wrong?
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>>144373534
This is the key to mindwashing the masses.

You make the concept of a false flag look ridiculous and leave lots of hints and evidence to suggest it's legitimate. This way the ignorant masses will believe everything you tell them.

Some sheeple will say things like "are you fucking retarded? Of course you're going to kill plenty of people if you just start fucking firing at crowds of thousands of them all bunched together from an elevated position". This is just a CIA tactic to confuse you. Don't fall for it!
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>>144370340
Even on the most hardcore drugs no one does something this dumb.
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>>144372649
The other thing about your stupid post. Lunatics, crazies CANNOT do what this guy did. People with degenerative dementia can't even take care of themselves. Have you ever met a person like that? They are useless. They need minders.
Just like you.
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>>144366026
Does James Woods watch Alex Jones you think? I bet he watches Alex, if not for the entertainment at least.
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>>144372787
t. I base my knowledge on vidya games and Hollywood movies
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This is my theory IF there is a hidden motive other than crazy old man.
>Flip bitch notices her money train is going a bit senile
> Decides to get a good payday out of him
>Flies to Flipland and gets her family to convince him they are being held hostage by muslim terrorists.
>Demand money
>100k is all he can send without really getting feds up his ass
>not enough
>tells him to do hit or else flip bitch and her senpai is dead
>does hit hoping to escape, doesn't and kills self
>flip bitch comes back all innocent and takes the bigger payday of his estate.
>Profit
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>>144372649
>Timothy McVeigh
>OH HE WAS JUST A MADMAN! JUST IGNORE HIS BELIEFS AND IDEOLOGY
>Ted Kaczynski
>OH HE WAS JUST A MADMAN! JUST IGNORE HIS BELIEFS AND IDEOLOGY
>Dylann Roof
>OH HE WAS JUST A MADMAN! JUST IGNORE HIS BELIEFS AND IDEOLOGY
>Elliot Rodger
>OH HE WAS JUST A MADMAN! JUST IGNORE HIS BELIEFS AND IDEOLOGY
>Breivik
>OH HE WAS JUST A MADMAN! JUST IGNORE HIS BELIEFS AND IDEOLOGY
>everyone who kills other people is always just crazy and has no valid points
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>>144374001
Hes a pretty smart guy. He spotted a terrorist once. He probably knows a thing or two.
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>>144372642
>used a higher power rifle like a .308
>use a heavier round with more recoil and less capacity
>against a crowd of 100% soft unarmored targets
>at less than 500 yards
youre an idiot. there would be nothing but disadvantages for using 762 vs 556 in this situation. maybe a few more trauma kills from more energy hitting arms or legs and causing more damage and bleeding, but other than that you want as many rounds in center masses as fast and accurately as possible, and using 308 would be a step backwards in all regards unless this was a sniper situation rather than a machine gun massacre.
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>>144374064
contact? or was it stuart little 2
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>>144374159
On a plane flight he identified a terrorist.
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>>144372669
Snipers do not fire from rooftops. That's retarded. Stop watching movies.

They fire from a fortified, recessed position within a building.
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>>144374156
He bought a .308 bolt action in Nevada but they can't find it. wasn't in his hotel room or car.
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>>144366026

Carrying luggage up to your own room is nothing to brag about. Probably had help to the room. Picked the wrong caliber to use. Picked the wrong gear.

He'd get more kills if the rifles are at least .308 and using semi auto fire. Bump firing just empty the mags faster. Two regular mags coupled together would've been better, the Surefire mags are complete shit.

Dude was a complete amateur.
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>>144368860
He wasn't target shooting, he was just loosing rounds into a large crowd.
Miss the person you are aiming at there's another person in every direction.
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obvious truth is mossad shot the people maybe even from other rooms, and "suicided" and framed the old faggot
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>>144374422
not saying that it isn't possible. but where are the holes in the windows of said other rooms? there aren't any balconies.
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>>144374293
People don't get it its not the fact that he carried the guns to the room.
The fact that he knew it would work in the first place. People wouldn't attempt something they knew had a chance of failure.
He must have had some understanding of security.

I had this funny theory he did this before. He has been to other hotel rooms and filled them with guns.
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>>144373543
He wasn't shooting at one target, he was shooting at a group of 20,000 or so people.
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>>144370340
SUSHI
COMPED!
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>>144374282
He had at least one AR10 with a scope
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>>144366299
He fired blind because he was an it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAqBPyXqQXI
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>>144374598
He could have done plenty of rehearsals without using actual guns.
"Hey, let's see how many 90 lb golf bags full of random items I can get the bellhops to carry up to my room and if they say anything about it!"
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>>144374035
SWAT landed on the roof before they ever breached the room retard.
The muzzle flash from the top of the building would've been a dead giveaway. You firearm illiterate, gunless yurocucks don't have any right injecting your retarded opinions into this.
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>>144374598
I would imagine with all the time he spent in Vegas over the years he knew nobody was counting luggage. I mean there are people that take a house load of clothes and shit with em when they vacation.
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>>144372504
>Thinking he wouldn't have left some kind of DNA at the scene, like hairs
>Thinking he was dumb enough not to know that
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>>144374640
I was referencing this article. dailymail so take it what you will.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4949534/Stephen-Paddock-bought-mystery-rifle-going-Vegas.html
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>>144374622
he missed 19500 or so
what an amateur
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>>144374807
>>144374807
that's why he shaved his eyebrows. He could've gotten away with it if weren't for those pesky mexican guards
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Has anyone actually counted the bangs from the beginning to the end of the shooting? How many times did he actually fire?
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>>144375003

They
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>>144366026
it still amazes me that people seriously think Steve Patsy shot anyone, including himself.
He was executed. Someone else fired the weapons, and it was all a distraction from something else.
The spooks are spooked because something went wrong and the narrative went south.
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>>144373709
Maybe that´s what he thought tracers may be good for. Do we know what kind of projectiles hit those tanks?
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if you want to know what this was really about
Check the victims.
There were 58 deaths, and about 54 of them were wrong people, wrong time, wrong place. 4 of them are important.
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>>144371095
>doesnt realize stephen paddock was planted there by the real shooter

fucking dumb fuck
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>>144375332
No, but I think the big takeaway is that it didn't work. I'm more curious to know how many rounds he fired at it and how much time he spent doing it. That's one of the two factors that limited the death toll (other being that he quit around 10 minutes into it).
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Its all very suspicious especially the sushi
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>>144375380
No

58 of them were important. They were all researching autism and just about to have a breakthrough but the CIA wanted it shut down

#knowtruth
#staywithchrist
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>>144374526
But there is a roof. Mandalay Bay has 43 floors, Paddock on 32nd, that would be what, 25-30 yards higher? Similar trajectory and in the chaos people may not notive the difference. However, no records on any roof activity exist, also no muzzle flashes from there on any of the videos.
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>>144372649
>having drinks right before you decide to murder innocent people.
Why would you not?
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Maybe he just felt shit about himself after what he'd done.

I'd probably top myself too when I came back to Earth and realized all the harm I'd just caused. Or even just because I was scared of the consequences.
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>>144366886
I believe there were more than one shooter, and they shot Steve.
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>>144375840
Anti-white racism. Dismissed.
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>>144375922
Where's the racism, snowflake?
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>>144375960
The white men are all potential mass killers.
Dickhead.
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pol analyst expert here, qualification shitposting

He didn't plan to escape. What happened was he wanted to start off the shooting with a big distracting explosion. He originally planned to use his vehicle full of explosive tannerite but decided to try shooting the air fuel tanks instead.

At the beginning of the attack he targetted the fuel tanks but not no explosion. That's why he decided not to do his car instead is he realized he wouldn't be able to safely park it and get into his position without alerting authorities

I dont think he had an escape plan.
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>>144373423
>How many other cats were there?
Is that you, Dennis Miller?
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>>144374212
They were four of the 9/11 hijackers on a practice run.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0lzZvCNkJw
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>>144375503
With all the issues being a ear witness has... I myself heard 4-6 magazines being emptied at least, there may have been more but I was busy getting out of the area as soon as half a dozen police cars chased down LV Boulevard and it became clear this was not some PR stunt for a movie release or similar. Assuming 20-30 rounds per mag, this would give you between 80 to 180 rounds minimum. Wide range, I know, but that´s the best I can get out of the things I heard that night.
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>>144376024
It says nothing of the sort anywhere in there.

Either you didn't read it, you're illiterate, you're terribly stupid, or you just can't cope with being wrong. lol jk, it's all fucking four, dummy. I wish cognitive dissonance caused cancer because you and your ilk would be dead as fuck.
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>>144376111
Did you see the mags he had stacked in the leaked photos? Those aren't than 50 rds each.
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>>144367225
He didn't do that. He had the bellhops take his guns and ammo to his room, tipped them $100, and they said, "Have a nice day, Mr. Paddock!"
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>>144376151
>"random white guy"
People are not skeptical because of that they are skeptical because its fucking weird.
This is just racism pushed by the media and liberals trying to drum up racism against white males.
Its horseshit. Especially when it's peddled by liberal white men are they the good white men? Do they never do this in this stupid fucking theory?
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>>144370340
When overweight on comped sushi you can't run far.
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>>144376263
(((liberal white men))), my fellow white
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>>144376263
>they are skeptical because its fucking weird.

What's weird about it?
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>>144370932
No. Handguards do you fucking idiot.
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>>144371276
All your points are good but compared to other mass shooters this guy was par excellence.
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>>144376366
I suppose in africa mass shootings arent weird good point.
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>>144375193
>How many times did he actually fire?"

One too many if you ask me.
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>Rothschilds bow to Paddocks
>In contact with Deep State
>Possess automatic-like fire arms
>Control Vegas with an iron but fair fist
>Own apartments & houses globally
>Direct descendants of the ancient bank robbing blood line
>Casinos comp the brothers for their mere presence
>Tacobell workers dare not make eye contact.
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>>144372208
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCNI7Z0RKWE
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Breddy important if real
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>>144366026
>quick compdown?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_4XgT6KxyQ
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What if.
He hit his target that is why he stopped. What if someone on the ground could figure out he hit his target.
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>>144367986
Hmm
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>>144376460
>>Possess automatic-like fire arms
Fucking lel. I love how this is true.
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>>144376632
No. He stopped when he saw the security guard approach.
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Has James Woods known any, 'trained assassins"? No, so he should talk about something he does know about. Like pedo jews in Hollywood.
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>>144366026
>could have [easily] done more damage than 59/500? he seemed pretty proficient for a 64yo with no military training
>>144376555
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>>144376798
I mean someone said three shots were fired then he started firing and a rifle is unaccounted for. What if he shot a particular person then sprayed the area with machine gun fire to mask it.
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>>144372225
https://youtu.be/L1pS_cQb2CI?t=2m2s
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>>144366299
>>144366467
>>144368506
>>144368860
>>144369941
>>144370727
I just made a fucking essay regarding his "skill"

>>>144376555
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>>144376900
People dont think his method is extraodinary (firing at a crowd) they think the set up and strategy is weird.
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>>144376997
It's pretty sound too. Nice work anon
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>>144371095
HIS EXECUTION WAS FUCKING COMPED BRO
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>>144366026
the madman was not bursting he was going full auto on the crowd
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>>144376997
>he had no military training
>let me explain what he did in military terms
Oook
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>>144376997
So the truck of peace tactic
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>>144376564
VERY important if true. ive not seen this yet. is it legit??
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About the gloves thing leather gloves are not the same as firing range gloves. They would burn and melt.
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>>144376436
So everything out of the ordinary either never happened or was an Israeli plot?
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>>144377520
Im not a nazi you idiot.
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>>144376209
I was assuming the standard, average .223 mags above. The bursts also sounded a bit longish, but I didn´t count shots, as the first bursts were just noise sticking out of the usual soundscape and I didn´t concentrate first, then focussed on getting in the opposite direction of whatever was happening (been near Excalibur, roughly 0.5 miles from the event).

With the extended mags seen in the pictures, this now makes way more sense, so minimum number of shots could easily be more than 200.
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>>144374622
>t. thinks size of the target is the only relevant consideration and not distance
>can't believe you couldn't hit that HUGE BARN DOOR MAN
>it was seven thousand feet away
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>>144374421
This. Recoil affects accuracy, if you aren't aiming at specific targets but just open firing into a large crowd the recoil doesn't have much when you are aiming at huge crowds of people instead of individuals.
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>>144377402
Saved from a few days ago, i'm asking the same questions, that's why i keep posting it. I need conformation as much as you do, but it's a big WTF if true
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>>144371806
>he could have effortlessly placed rounds directly into individuals laying on the ground
>what is distance
>what is gravity
>what is wind
>it would take no effort to land literally hundreds of body shots in minutes on human targets several hundred feet away and down in 32nd floor desert winds at night with glaring concert lights, muzzle flashing, street lights in your eyes
It doesn't take much to spot someone who has never done any serious shooting before.
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hey you guys remember when mass shooters were chads and didn't need gay shit like manifestos or motives? i member
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>>144366026

>shoots into a crowd of thousands of people that requires no aiming.

>shoots at tank field with JP-8 thinking it will explode like a die hard movie.

>kills himself.

>smart

The dude was a fucking idiot.
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>>144377434
>leather
>melt
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>>144378146
>have you heard of gravity and wind, idiot?
>This makes it impossible to hit fish in a barrel unless you're a CIA assassin trained professional
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>>144378335

you're a fucking idiot for posting said shit, baa baaa said the sheep, your time is comming faggot!
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>>144378335
No, it was a CIA false flag perfectly calculated and executed perfectly with 100% precision tactical
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>>144372748
Lost.
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>>144366026
His targets ran away.
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>>144376555
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>>144367726
It was the stuff Americans put inside targets when they shoot them to make big fireballs. It gives them a stiffy down at the range.
My guess is he had an idea of hiding it around the venue beforehand. Probably saw his vantage point first hand and realized it was a dumb idea.
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>>144370340
Yup there is no escape plan. Just one cop speculating to the media and the media pushing the new headlines for fresh clicks $$
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Paddock was a jew

This was a racist attack targeting white people

because, fuck white people!
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>20k people huddled together
>only in danger if the gunman is MI6 battle hardened spook

The crowd has lights on them, all this "muh shadowy blob" stuff is pure ridiculous.

Say he aimed at person x and the bullet gets thrown off course by 'wind and gravity, the bullet isn't going to suddenly end up 1km from its target. Even if its off the mark by 10 metres (crazy amount from the distance) its going to hit somebody.

People acting like he was shooting with precision. Literally spray and pray.
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>>144366642
>hard to not tell anyone before you do this
he did tell though, wasn't there a woman screaming at people that they were gonna die before this went down?
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>>144379332
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11842034

Fuck off Faggot!
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>>144379961
Have you ever been to a night concert? Ever looked at lights in the dark. You can't see shit.
Fucking full of shit brit.
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>>144378752

says the faggot living in australia.

go suck a kangaroo dick you no guns faggot.
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>>144378838


sounds fake and gay.
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>>144366026
He was a millionaire, could have easily afforded legally converted fully automatics.
He could have afforded explosives.
High scores aren’t made with machine guns, but with truck bombs.
He could have rented a Uhaul truck, filled it with LOX, fertilizer, Semtex, and covered the walls in steel shot- essentially creating a 30 foot long grenade that would have killed hundreds and injured thousands.
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>>144366026
Shot himself like a bitch instead of gunning down the cops, for one thing.
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>>144380355
You me all you want faggot, like i said ,your time is coming
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>>144380328
Have you ever overlooked one?
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>>144376564
>picture of random shit on random corkboard
>conspiracy proven
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>>144380811

Prove it wrong then shit stain! That's your job! Prove it's false! And hurry the fuck up
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Watch the video that is multiple videos synced up. There is definitely never more than one gun at a time. As for amateur mistakes? His reloads were slow as hell. It was one of his long as reloads near the beginning that people decided to start escaping.
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>>144381095
>His reloads were slow as hell
I noticed that too. It's like he didn't have much practice with firearms to begin with.
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>>144366026

HOLY SHIT what an amateur mass shooting reviewer.

It was clearly at least a 7.5/10, the count, confusion, conspiracies... That's not ameture, plus he got COMPED thousands in sushi

9/10 for sure
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>>144380679

That wasn't even a sentence..

You shouldn't be giving the wallabies handjobs while you type.
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>>144371095
he was flawlessly executed. The executioner walked away.
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>>144366467
>He possibly even had a plan to escape and disappear completely.
which was foiled by the fact that he thought tanks of oil explode like in the movies

an amateurish mistake
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>>144366026
The biggest red flag for me is the total lack of cctv footage shown to the public:
>maniac shooter
>authorities apparently have no clue as to why he would do this
>obviously need to build a picture of his activities before the shooting
So why not show us what he looked like - not one or two old random photos - exactly how he looked on the day. Plenty of people would have seen him. Plenty of people would see the cctv footage and say "oh, I remember that guy. He was doing 'x' at 'y'" etc. Seems suspicious.
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>>144370580

>taking time and picking shots aiming center mass
>at targets 400m away
>where people are herded in, packed like sardines in a can

Don't be a fucking retard. It was 400m away. You're going to aim at one thing and hit somewhere within 10m circular radius (at minimum)

To get the most kills in that situation, you don't "pick targets" you spray and pray, you fire as many bullets as you can in your 10 minute time frame.

Best way to do it, stop being stupid man,
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>>144382766
Theres a total lack of anything. There are seriously people pushing that this guy has no motive. Every other shooting has a motive. this guy? No he is just a random "white guy". As if that is explanation enough.
It all stinks.
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>>144374060
Except of course then they are Muslim
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>>144366026
THERE ARE CAMERAS IN EVERY ROOM -- THEY WOULD OF KNOWN WHERE THE SHOOTING WAS IN MINUTES!!
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Okay "4chan", I'm the brother of Stephen Paddock. I'm here to tell you that this "Stephen Paddock is the shooter" bullsushi needs to STOP. Each time one of these taco bell shootings happen I find a picture of my bro at Publix, and each time he calls me asking for a sandwich. You might not know it, but $100k REALLY isn't a lot of money, okay? I'm serious about this too, he can't get comped anymore because of you assholes posting this crap on the internet.

So please, I'm begging you, LEAVE MY BROTHER ALONE! He did nothing to you! You're ruining his and my comps.
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>>144366026
What the fuck does James woods know... is it fuck all by any chance?
FBI sting gone wrong
No videodrome involvement
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>>144384530
Why are there cameras in hotel rooms? That's just weird.
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>>144366026
Where did all the brass go?
Why weren't there more casings everywhere in the room, especially by the windows?
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>>144384666
Checked and comped.
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4 DAYS TO SET UP IN HOTEL ROOM
NO NEED FOR ACCURACY
WHY WAS HE EVEN THERE
>PATSY
The mossad could have offed him on the first night…set the room up and left unnoticed; well before a shot was even fired
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=06t_KP7y8Ao
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>>144376253
Comped
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>>144366026
Ohh nooo!!!
ARE THEY going to install metal detectors in our hotels now and ban a literal exploit tool for automatic fire on semi-auto guns????
ARE YOU telling mee that I won't be able to get my mini guns up in hoters there for some whatever reason?!
IT'S A BLACK OP POLICE STATE CONSPIRACY!!!!
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>>144375840
Needs an OCCUPY DEMOCRATS tag at the bottom
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>>144389404
They want the metal detectors there for another reason
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this thread is thick with shills
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>>144366026
Bad stat. Maybe he used some trash murican lmg with shitty 5.56 instead based 7.62, should have use some heavy machine gun like M2HB or just an oldskool PKM.
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>>144389404
How do you boil a frog?
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>>144391592
Motherfucker I'm locked in a basement in Langley VA making minimum wage shillposting as hard as I can.

It's like a fucking Chinese sweatshop in here.

I mean WTF. Am I saving the world or sewing Nikes?
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>>144370829
Hmm
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>>144371508
Gives away his exact position
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>>144370167
It's pretty fucking stupid for such a "genius" to say. It's basically saying "I believe people would never collude and work together to break the law AS A RULE"

Like, what? Are you stupid? >>144370251
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>>144372162
Alarm was in a different room according to news articles.
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>>144366026
>tfw you're in vacation in Las Vegas, but then glow in the dark CIAniggers bust down your door, tie you up in a chair, make you watch as they falseflag a shooting and then put a round in your head so now the whole world thinks of you as a monster, when in reality you were the first victim of the attack
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>>144380164
There’s a report that someone said to a woman that they were going to die. Not scream and there’s no proof this actually happened.
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>>144366467
His room overlooked an airport and he shot at fuel tanks which were holding jet fuel, the police theorize he expected them to explode which would be a distraction he could then use to help him escape, but the problem is that jet fuel doesn't explode like that. If that was his plan, it was very amateur.
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>>144374156
Before insulting people, perhaps consider .308 and (this instance of) 7.62 are the same thing.
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You likely have Paddockbots inside you right now
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>>144384530
>>144384723

There are no cameras in rooms. There aren't even cameras in the hallways in a lot of these expensive hotels. If there were room cameras you would find out and it would be a big scandal.
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>1 wasted time shooting at gas containers

>2 at 10min in was rattled when security guard tried to gain entry with master card key -- failed to take out guard

>3 had the cash to easily purchase better weapons for the job/targets?
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>>144374001
maybe. I do know he listens to Michael Savage. Savage was recently bragging about having lunch with him in LA -- not directly, but dancing around it "I had lunch with a big time old movie star, one of the few conservatives in that town ... he's big on social media" -- had to be Woods
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>>144370340
and don't forget the 25 guns REGISTERED TO HIM that he'd have to leave behind in the room. he intended to die... unless news breaks one of his planes was ready to fly out of the local airport the escape plan is bullshit
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>Be bullet
>Be fired at 45 down angle
>Hit pavement
>Bounce
>Get second chance at killing people

Blind fire into this situation results in many injuries. Maybe not so many kills.
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>>144371193
COMPED
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>>144375840
> CIA posting
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>>144366026
He tried ro do the movie thing and shoot at some tanks holding jet fuel to cause an explosive distraction to escape.
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> be millionaire
> resources and capabilities to get whatever you want
> buys bump stocks..
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>>144366026
he killed not even 0.3% of the people there and injured not much more than 2%.
very low-energy
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>>144371676
Interesting theory. That could be why the windows are broken out completely, instead of small openings. Then again the shooter(s) may have wanted a cleaner, wider view.
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>>144366592
Probably planned on his car blowing up as a distraction
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>>144366026
>trained assassin
>has to use bumpstock because he can't get his hands on real weapons
>doesn't use any explosives
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>>144374046
He had room overlooking the concert long in advance, before the Phil trip. If he was forced, probably wouldn't bring his 20+ guns and go try killing that many people. Theory doesn't check out.
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http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/143604384/#q143617271
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>>144370753
>not even looking at the big picture

every time there is another mass shooting the media goes "THE DRUM BEAT OF MASS SHOOTINGS" and we get one step closer to banning guns.
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>>144366642
Here's a question: Where do you get all of them? Go ahead, acquire that arsenal as a test. We'll wait here.
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Pssh... nothing personnel kid...
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>>144371276
>Have you ever been to Vegas? The casinos are huge and have 4-7 thousand rooms. Nobody is watching people coming and going with suitcases. You could make 100 trips, mingled with hundreds or thousands of people walking in between the casino, restaurants and their rooms and nobody would bat and eye.

Sounds like a great way to do a an arms deal.
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>>144366026
He was planning things meticulously yes, but he made too many mistakes which is why they ended up having to do him in and finish the job themselves. The first shots were him firing the sniper rifle you see him laying with, and basically ruining the entire plan because he highly reduced the kill count. People reacted to his first shots, and the people going down from them, so they were already primed to start running when full auto came.
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>>144366026
He wasted too much time shooting at the jet fuel tanks and dicking around with hotel security
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>>144375840
Okay where's the hammer?
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>>144409855
>Where do you get all them?
From gun stores you fucking moron.

Nevada doesnt seem to have long gun registry, so you can buy as many guns as you wanted, and the only way an organization could track them is the sale bill from the vendor to the customer.

Also big surprise, gun owners typically have more than several guns, particularly if they're rich.
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>>144410445
faggot
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>>144367726
Distraction, would have taken days to identify
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>>144376151
There's also that part about everyone hoping it's a Muslim with an axe to grind and instead it's a white guy with (((no motive))).

Or did you just choose not to read that last bit?
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>>144380811
Nah, but the army of shills ready to jump down throats sure does tip us off.
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>>144366886
>Unless the official story is crap and he didn't do it at all
Either he was a professional or he didn’t do it and was a patsy. If he did it he wasn’t alone. I noticed that since these threads subsided they are full of ashkenazi jewish shills using that rhetorical jrand forum skepdick writing style to defend the official bullshit story. This thread is full of them. These kikes need to take some hikes... straight into the oven
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>>144410653
All of these other posters were kind enough to circle things and your image is rather small.

Could you be a dear?
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>>144371276
This is a kike
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>>144372187
This is also a kike
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>>144377520
Another kike
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>>144410182
Cookoo clan member spotted




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