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How come /pol/ never talks about Matt Heimbach? I see many threads on Richard Spencer, that accuse him of being a communist, but Heimbach is an open Strasserist.
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>>144369027
because literally who
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Ugh, I've heard good and bad things about tradworker. I really like their message, but jesus I wish they had something closer to me.
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>>144369027
Strasserism is Natbol tier of cringe.
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>>144369826
Well, I'll give Heimbach a little credit. He does understand the path to victory. However, his coalition group 'Nationalist Front' is a massive problem. It contains Vanguard America, National Socialist Movement, several skinhead groups and even a couple of KKK groups. TWP is very much turning into a run of the mill 'neo-nazi' group with people with tattooed faces and other degenerates being let into the party.
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>>144369027
>14th SS Virgins
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>>144370038
Original Strasserism, as defined by Otto Strasser, wasn't even antisemetic. Strasser himself denounced it multiple times. They don't believe in private property and want a completely planned economy.
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>>144369027
Heimbach is a goober who got excommunicated from his church
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>>144370147
>people with tattooed faces and other degenerates being let into the party.

I don't know why there isn't a single white nat group that openly denounces and shuns these people. They belong in the fucking gas.

>>144370484
The problem is most people don't know shit about the ideology they champion.
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>>144369824
>>144370492
Not every thread has to be /ptg/ or whatever you /r/t_d fags want.
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>>144370484
this its essentially just run of the mill socialism + nazi aesthetics
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>>144370646
Its not even Socialism. Its straigh up National Communism.
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>>144370628
I know Identity Evropa does. American Vanguard seems to do the same as well.

Heimbach is well studied it seems, but most variants of Strasserism seem to be much more hardline on the Jews.
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>>144370646
Yeah, that's what that seems like.
>>144370738
It's very nearly Stalinism as near as I can tell.
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>>144370512
What do you mean? Did they just excommunicate him because he's 'an evil nazi'?
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>>144370852
>Stalinism

Yeah it is close to the "Socialism in one country" thing but Stalinism also was anti nationalistic. Soviets wanted to destroy russian identity and make the new soviet man.

>>144370774
>Strasserism seem to be much more hardline on the Jews.

It doesn't matter if they call out the jew. They have no understanding of economics. Planned economies always fail.
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>>144369027
>why wont /pol/ talk about me?!
fuck off matthew.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWiUI5n5ouU
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>>144371408
I don't like Heimbach. I criticized him numerous times in the thread. His economics are retarded.
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Look's like a fat Amerishart LARPER to me lmao
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>>144372522
Seems accurate.
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>>144369027
>>144372792
The optics are already enough reason not to take him seriously. I guess it takes an artistic genius like Hitler to understand that. Hitler used glasses when reading but never when cameras were present.

LOOKS MATTER! Heimbach is a fatass and needs to lose weight. Also his neckbeard got to go.
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>>144374468
Heimbach's weight alone is enough to discredit him.
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>>144374468
This. I think he also lives in a trailer park.
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>>144369027
>How come /pol/ never talks about Matt Heimbach?
Because /pol/ is becoming increasingly anti-white and for most of the people on this board, don't care about the movement. Hell, none of you were at last weekends 7th annual Stormfront conference in Tennessee.
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>>144369027

because he sucks and is not even white
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>>144376013
>why wont /pol/ accept the Zionist and Jews into their fold?
>REEEEEEEEEEEEE

lololol

>none of you were at last weekends 7th annual Stormfront conference in Tennessee.

LOLOL
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>>144376122
>Dugin
God i hate that motherfucker
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>>144369027
Good dude. As >>144374723 says, he's gotta lose some weight. Does great work, has a good 30 minute podcast (as opposed to 4 hours).

>>144370628
>>144370147
/ourguys/ won the 1st Battle of Sacramento specifically because TWP -- more political in nature -- reached out to local skinheads to work a simple job suited to their brute nature, security.

Reminder that it was a massive success. Antifa got stabbed with their own knives. The insane flip bitch Yvette Falarca is looking at felony assault charges (finally.)

Main issue is when he >>144370147 involves groups that may be compromised.
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>>144376214
me too :3 hope he dies soon
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>>144369027
This guy has the charisma of a wet sock.
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>>144376293
TWP is certainly good at cracking skulls, that is another area I'll give them credit for. Will Planer is also in jail right now as a result of Sacramento as well. Heimbach's economics are actually leftist.
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>>144376463
Yes, for whatever reason, he is very awkward in a way I can't quite pin down.
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>>144376474
>Heimbach's economics are actually leftist.
Yeah, I can't agree with absolutely everything, but at this point I just want my country back, and the same for all whites.

>Is it good for Whites or bad for the jews?
I support it
>Is it bad for whites or good for the jews?
I'm against it.
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>>144371408
that's an old image, he's now 100% anti-jew
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SLIDE THREAD
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>>144377348
>hur dur no one can discuss anything except my thread
Fuck off you're literally the worst type of poster on /pol/
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>>144372792
>>144374468
>>144374723
>Heimbach's weight alone is enough to discredit him.

80% of America is fatter.
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>>144377325
show us where he called out israel for white genocide then?
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>>144377325
>>144377471
>low hairline
>poofy straight hair
what ethnicity other than German does this man possess?
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>>144377471
>muh chaos!
dugin is a commie.
is heimbach a commie?
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>>144377471
He still looks like a fat neckbeard, quite frankly. That picture just proves he wants to larp as greater individuals and movements.
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>>144369027
Chaimbach isn't white
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>>144377471
He's really trying
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>>144377685
>>144377722
notice the black women laughing at heimbach's fat ass
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>>144376122
You need to go to these conferences because organization is key. Last weekend's meeting in Tennesee was the real Unite the Right. Also, don't you want to meet the people behind the voices that call into Stormfront Radio? Chris from Florida, Red from Texas, Allan from South Carolina, and pic related of all others are reasons enough to head to these things.
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>>144377774
>dont you want to hang out with a bunch of Israel First leftist LARPing as white nationalists?

nah
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>>144377784
lol
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>>144377842
dailystormer=/=stormfront
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>>144377612
>muh German ethnicity
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>>144377908
its all the same nonsense, anon

>oy vey hitler was a terrible evil man!
>dont you goys want to be racist and hateful too!
>rubs hands
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>>144377968
>not knowing Don Black hates Anglin and highly disagrees with Heimbach due to his "death to america" presentation he gave back in 2014's Stormfront conference.

All of the archives are gone. Have a listen to some shows to get a feel of where things are.

http://www.renseradioarchives.com/stormfront/
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>>144370628
We'll need beserker RWDS eventually. They may as well be useful before they get the gas. The problem is keeping them on the chain until it is time.
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>>144369824
He's arguably the most successful far-right organizer in the United States. He and Matt Parrot built the Trad Workers' Party from the ground up. It's something like 500 members now. They're attempting a soft merger with all the other visible NS parties in the US, something called the Nationalist Front.

I think part of the reason all the attention goes to Spencer is because he's an affluent and somewhat effete WASP. But Heimbach is actually out there doing something. I can't tell if he's often ignored because he really is just collecting white trash into what might ultimately be an organization rife with informers and cooperators, or if they're actually scared he might be building something real.
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>>144377968
Oh FFS
>being this new
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>>144378102
I'll give it a listen. Let me ask too:

how many Stormfrontfags have come together to coordinate a propaganda effort to expose israel and white genocide? is there one main network or several smaller ones..or none at all?

>>144378225
see above pls
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>>144369027
That guy is pol incarnate and is actively dedicating his life to implementing a plan which he believes will save the huwhite race in 'merica. The neckbeards on here are never satisfied though, I suspect that a lot of these poltards don't actually want things to change as they seem to enjoy being whinging losers.
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>>144378288
heimbach is a duginist.
dugin is a communist jew.
is heimbach a communist jew too?
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>>144369824
some fat jew who worked with hororwitz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsj0AF809dc
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>>144378268
Dailystormer has local book clubs. Dailystormer writes about the goddamned kikes and WG every fucking DAY.
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>>144378268
Fuck off shit skin.
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>>144378471
thats awesome! what im asking is what is stormfront doing to expose Israel and white genocide beyond their own echo chambers (book clubs, forums, blogs)?

>>144378476
not an answer
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>>144378565
in other words are they doing anything at all to educate the "normies" or are they just talking back and forth to people who already know the jews are bad?
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>>144377784
Spencer also has some problems as well. Primarily that he is a bit too 'lofty' and non-working class. He is unappealing to the white working and middle class, but for the opposite reasons as Heimbach.
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>>144369027
Who has the time to keep track of all these assholes?
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>>144378427
I wonder what kind of skeletons you have in your closet kike? Nearly 20 yo videos on my.
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>>144369027
he's literally retarded, sits in the dumb negro realm of the bell-curve
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TWP association with NSM and Jeff Scheop is disgusting. They're a good organisation and I had a conversation with Matt about this but he dismissed everything I said about Scheops toxicity.

Schoep is a known fraud, criminal, racemixer and literal cuckold. His wife's daughter has a black child. The man should be shot for calling himself a nationalist.
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>>144378597
?????
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>>144378565
There's no point in answering you. Your here to stir shit and be a huge faggot. Once again you could choose to be anything you want and, you chose a higher. Go back to whatever shithole pays you.
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>>144378754
Yes their association with NSM is one of the primary problems with TWP besides the leftist aspects.
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>>144369027
He's great I wish more people were like him he had a rocky start but he was very young when he got into this.
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>>144378565
Stormfront is not Daily Stormer. Stormfront hates DS. Stormfront has accomplished... nothing.

DS is moving into real life activism now. Aside from that, their readership was huge and growing. We'll either see what happens or if you want to know more you can get involved.
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Reminder Heimbach had a pregnant wife and a child. Hes done more for his race than any of the paranoid purity spiralers itt

Make actual criticism instead of pulling up shit from 10-15 years ago.
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>>144378832
im asking if the Stormer does any outreach to normies or if they limited their redpilling to people who are already redpilled? how is that stirring shit?
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>>144378832
*Nigger
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Anyone listen to the daily traditionalist I just started listening to it.
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>>144378870
> if you want to know more you can get involved.
I've noticed every single "pro-white" group does not do three things:

>Expose Israel as the cause of white genocide
>Redpill anyone outside of their echochamber
And they all promote "based Israel!"

I'd be happy to get involved with your group if you're going to educate the People about Israel, white genocide and the other issues controlled support does not want addressed.
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>>144378903
Reminder that he pays child support for Matt Parrots half arabic mongoloid child.
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>>144378908
They get something like 4 million unique visitors. DS appeals to the youth through humour and it's book clubs are getting more and more organised. They'll practically have a cell in every city in America soon.
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>>144379021
>hes a bigger cuck than spencer
lol

>>144379036
alright cool thanks m8
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>>144378949
Great show. Been listening since it's been linked on DS.
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>>144379146
Cool
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>>144379021
There's literally one blog written by a paranoid schizophrenic that claims that.

Honestly can you just provide proof or fuck off with this divide and conquer JIDF shit?
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>>144378903
I really can't get past the Strasserist aspect.
>>144378908
Stormer has massive readership and has actually beat some MSM numbers occasionally. Stormers often put up poster, attend rallies, and do banner drops. Identity Evropa is the most active group I've seen, they've hit an absolute fuck ton of colleges this semester with posterings and banner drops.
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>>144379017
At least you stopped using your name nigger. Like I said just here to stir shit up. You're expecting us to sift through millions of words and hours of video to produce this one well known fact. Your a huge piece of shit. Go get your like friend antisjw libertarian to come help you nigger.
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>>144379017
DS is a news site, the most banned publication in the history of the internet and probably the world. ICANN is after them, refusing to give them a domain name, shutting them down whenever they get one. And it's because they do exactly what you're talking about, but in news format.

It's funny.
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>>144379260
uhh what? I asked if the Stormer is like every other WN group: promoting "based israel" and blaming white genocide on the western Jews to protect Israel and spread Zionism. If the Stormer is going to or plans on exposing Israel, white genocide and other topics the (((Alt-Right))) doesn't touch, then Id be happy to associate myself with the Stormer in some way.
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>>144379017
I've heard literally every person in the thread heavily criticize Israel. You are either a shill or a Siege fag.
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>>144379333
yeah anglins shit is MOSSAD garbage. why i asked about StormFront and whether its the same silly nonsense. Look guys:

I want to stop white genocide.
And to do that I need to expose both Israel and the diaspora AND white zionists in America and Europe as responsible.

Is there a non-pozzed group I can join which is doing this right now or are they all JIDF fronts?

>>144379363
what thread?
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>>144379450
>banned from the internet
>Dicky Spencer still twitter verified
>mossad garbage
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>>144377471
He really needs to lose weight.

>>144378630
Working-class people do not want working-class people as leaders. Nobody wants to be lead by equals, but by superiors. Trump is a good example of a guy that working-class people like. He was open about his superiority while being honest and he kept his message simple. He didn't pretend to be something he was not.

I can't quite pinpoint what's wrong with Spencer, but he's not the king for the far-right. The position for the throne is still open.
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>>144379361
Drop the shit moarpheous all the likes should be deported to isreal and, all military and financial aid stopped. Let the sand niggers and kike's fight it out.
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>>144379513
That's right. They want a champion. I think Trump picked that up from his stint on pro wrestling.
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>>144379513
That's what I mean. Spencer does not have working class appeal, but Heimbach has the opposite problem. Spencer sounds too intellectual to be a true populist.
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>>144379499
>Anglin invited to Israel TV for interview
>doesnt expose white genocide
>doesnt name the Jew
>praises Israel and the based altright in Israel

YEAH sure they are killing our race but at least they like pepe right!? praise kek!

>>144379555
>all military and financial aid stopped
israel has suggested all aid is stopped because Israel is so wealthy and powerful they dont need it. why do you use stopping aid like its a bad thing?

>oh no israel has become rich and powerful thanks to america
>better send the jews to their new utopia sense they dont need America any more
>meanwhile america is in debt and weakened by israel
>prime for takeover
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>>144379500
Heimbach also wears Hezbollah shirts and is very supportive of Iran. He is certainly antisemetic, that isn't the problem with him.
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Ironmarch is a joke filled with islam sympathisers. I dont get what your MO is schizoman but I really see no way forward for you beside autisticaly counter signaling everybody except Sinaids and Ironmarch jihadis.
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>>144379706
Israel and the likes have been rich for all of recorded history via goyim usury. The rothchilds created isreal let them have their magic dirt. Likes are weak by nature and surrounded by enemies they'll be killed within a century and, the US would have it's enemy list cut in half. I get your just upset Spencer gate didn't take off. Sorry people are reaching more people than you thought possible. I get you've never planned beyond yelling at people over the internet and your afraid. It's time to put on your big boy pants and, start making shit happen.
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>>144380132
Siegefags are the worst are responsible for 99% of the infighting.
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>>144380132
>Israel is behind white genocide
its that simple. you either speak the truth or you dont, anon. no one can force you.

>>144380149
israel is a nuclear armed country. can you explain your plan for taking down israel?
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>>144380190
most of them are childless teens just rambling about taking over the gubmint on public forums, I dont get it
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>>144380200
im sure that renegay and ironmarch - all 20 people - redpilled anyone with their autistic screeching
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>>144379682
That's true. I don't know what Spencer's aims even are to be honest It's hard to criticize his actions when I don't know what he wants.
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I've interacted with heimbach several times on Gab and facebook. I believe he's entirely genuine in his beliefs but I totally disagree with his "death to america" idea.
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>>144380336
pan european movement, thats why schizos call him a globalist
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He's definitely a better speaker than Spencer.
He's great at debating too.
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>>144380306
thats what I'm asking, anon.
is there just ONE group who:

>exposes white genocide
>exposes israel AND the diaspora
>fights degeneracy in society
>is level-headed and not in the streets with tiki torches

im not saying any specific group is bad.
im just asking which group does all of the above

???
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>>144380413
let me guess halal march and the renegays?
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>>144380336
That's one of the primary criticisms of Spencer that is very valid.
>>144380373
He's genuine, but he's economically leftists and completely abandons the idea of an American people.
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>>144380492
there is nothing wrong with criticism of capitalism, you fucking goober
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>>144380190
I wish they would just do what they advocate for and see how long they last.
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>>144380475
i dont know..? ive never used iron march and i dont know much about renegade beyond the hellstorm documentary and how lulzy Sinead is. im asking you to direct me. Which group does all the things I outlined so I can join and support them?
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>>144380200
What's your plan big boy? Let them waste their bikes on the original of sandniggers that surround them. Most of the monkeys in Europe will leave once the money stops and, they are shot in the street. You come here and do nothing but, criticize but, never have anything to add. Like I said your just here to stir shit and, be a faggot. There's still work to be done but, were sitting here arguing because you can't help but so the kikes leg work shabbos goy that you are.
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>>144380541
>i will take down the kike gubmint with my ar15!
they are the goober tea party with swastikas
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>>144369027
all these trashy degenerate """"white nationalists"""" compromise our goal. especially anglin and his crew.
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>>144380413
Red ice did a video on it a few months ago.
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>>144380534
Heimbach is more that just a mere criticizer, he's a Strasserist, which entails a fully planned economy and no private property.
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>>144380549
I honestly dont know, since its an unproductive MO anyways. you cant just screech about muh kikes from behind a comp screen and think you can acomplish anything. thats why people build their orgs, I think you put the cart before the horse.

now call me kike
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>>144380586
>What's your plan big boy?
show you the flaws in yours so we can actually think of something which will work.
>Most of the monkeys in Europe will leave once the money stops
they arent there for gibs. they are there to conquer Europe when the signal is given. its all military aged men in fighting condition. they arent there for money.
>>144380640
cool man gotta link or video title i can look for?
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>>144380629
Lol, we got super Aryan here watch out. Everyone listen to this guy he's got it all figured out. I'm sure he can link us to his millions of followers and all the work he's done.
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>>144380741
No it's nigger
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>>144380741
*Kys nigger
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>>144380721
>you cant just screech about muh kikes from behind a comp screen and think you can accomplish anything.
this is why professional shills are paid $$$ to shill on 4chan? this is why the Israeli military creates propaganda teams specifically to shill on comp screens? The message must begin on social media and move into the streets. This is a matter of tactic not preference. And you dont have to mindless screen about jooooos. im not going to call you a kike because you seem at least authentic to me even if we disagree for now.

>>144380781
>>144380809
not an argument. the fact is the muslims in europe are there to conquer it with military force. israel wants all jews to return to israel so whites are sitting ducks in america. america will be conquered and we will lose Europe if we do not start acting like we care. We need media outreach. Propaganda outreach. We need rallies and protests which dont make us look like the stereotypical hollywood white supremacist. we need to do a lot which we arent. thats all im saying. and now im looking for a group which shares my conviction. sadly it seems these groups are too busy distracted with entertainment, infighting, protecting israel and sucking cocks tho....
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7f9EGOlrMs
He's more well-spoken than I initially gave him credit for. Now if he would sort himself out and get an actual haircut that would really help.

I don't know much about his organisation, but from what I've seen they look too much like basic skinheads. WN needs to move past that.
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>>144380759
not an argument. but you can continue supporting the biggest D&C shill who dates underage Filipino girls and acts like a white nigger. not to mentions his public calls for attack and doxxing - which make everyone one of us look like fools. i'll stick with figures that are articulate and have actual class such as Jared Taylor for now.
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>>144380966
America isn't getting conquered anytime soon.
Sure, it's bad with the riots and everything, but you'd be surprised how many white men are aware. The cities aren't the only places in the country.
''America'' is ready.
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Heimowitz has some serious aesthetic problems.
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>>144380974
Because Jared has done spoooooo much. We've gained so much traction and members from jared "Jews look huwhite to me" Taylor. I like him but, get real faggot. Also anglin doesn't like to comment on infighting faggotry. You'd know this if you actually listened or read what he wrote.
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>>144381196
I hope you're right.
But I see an America in tremendous debt, with a weak military made mostly of men (and women) who joined solely for the GI Bill. I see our society weakened by drugs, degeneracy and cultural Marxism. I see the U.S. engaged in so many foreign wars the military is close to exhaust.

But I hope youre right.
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>>144380966
I dont buy the shit about paid shills on 4chan, sorry, but I dont.

also there is a difference with kikes using propaganda to discredit dissident movements and the other way around, you cant just shitpost your way into nazi heaven with such an apparatus in place. you need organizations and you will never get people 101% to agree with you. nazi hate for jews is totaly irrational for 99% of people so how do expect to convert people with yor propaganda of questionable quality?
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>>144381249
not an argument. jared taylor can reach to normies and blue pilled people far more easily than anrew can. in the long run that is more beneficial instead of turning people off. now you're doing exactly what i complained about - D&C, and directing at jared taylor, trying to put people off from him. nice try shlomo.
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>>144380966
They all reside in countries that are paying them to be there. Once again with half truth bullshit. As soon as the imams call for an all out assault on the kikes in Israel the jihad is on. Honestly I don't know why I even have exchanges with you. You're very one dimensional and, simple minded with a false sense of self worth.
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>>144376013
>those times when your pretty sure it's David Duke posting
Hi Dr. Duke
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>>144381429
Lol, nigga he's been in the game for over 20 years and hasn't redpilled anyone who hasn't already been on the path. Get real faggot today's sheep don't respond to factual well articulated arguments they respond to emotional arguments. Humor and anger being the strongest.
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>>144381582
exactly, schiznats belong in the trash with their esoteric trash
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>>144381335
>I dont buy the shit about paid shills on 4chan, sorry, but I dont.
what about Correct the Record?
>you cant just shitpost your way into nazi heaven
I think you'll see I can :P The Jew relies on deception. He never tells the truth in his propaganda. Good propaganda does not need to lie. Bad propaganda lies because you can destroy the Jew's propaganda by simply revealing it as deception and giving the truth in its place. This would not only stop the Jews propaganda, and not only exalt me/the group because we gave the People truth, but it would turn the People against the Jew because they realize the Jew is behind their genocide and misery.
>you will never get people 101% to agree with you
They don't have too. All they must profess is that:

>white genocide is real and Israel is responsible
and
>all people have the right to exist if they do not threaten the existence of other peoples

two things. thats all im looking for in anyone or group.
>yor propaganda of questionable quality?
whats questionable?


>>144381443
>Jews are flooding Europe with fighting aged men but they arent there to conquer Europe..just get free gibs
you really believe that?
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>>144378102
David Duke and Anglin are friends though, why does Don hate Anglin?
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>>144381664
That's not what I said at all nigger. Fucking read you shit skin faggot. Simple minded with a false sense of importance.
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>>144369027
He's fat and ugly and says stupid things in interviews. His best help to the cause would be to disappear from it. I can't believe Jared Taylor actually allowed him to debate alongside him against Tim Wise of all people, what an embarrassment.
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>>144381288
There will be civil war(s) here before any major conflict with another country. You can feel the tension, on the internet and in real life.
Colored people aren't even a threat. It's the white leftists who are the problem. Ironically, they won't be shooting back; they'll have the police/military to do it for them.
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>>144381782
Jealousy just like this Morpheus faggot shit skin.
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>>144381249
Jared Taylor's work helped convince me. If all the alt right was is nigger jokes then it wouldn't have any footing to stand on. We need an intellectual backbone to the movement, otherwise it's just hot air. Anglin is an excellent propagandist, Taylor is an intellectual.

The people who say "we don't need X because he doesn't spread the message to a mass amount of people" are being silly, we need all types of people in this movement.
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>>144381874
i said european's migrants are there to invade europe. you said they just want gibs here >>144381443
>They all reside in countries that are paying them to be there. Once again with half truth bullshit. As soon as the imams call for an all out assault on the kikes in Israel the jihad is on.
so youre saying all the muslim warriors now in Europe are just going to head on over to Israel to fight the Israelis when the Imams tell them? in what world does it makes sense they would migrate into Europe so they can attack israel?
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>>144381985
>anglin is a zionist
>taylor is a zionist
>these are the people we need in our movement!

LOL
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>>144381664
>muh ctr
reddit r/le_donald meme

>i can
no you dont, more people in the US now talk about globalist, liberals or shapeshifting lizards than about the jews, for centuries it was the absolut norm, now even trump supporters call anti semites id politics trash far leftists

>all people have the right to exist if they do not threaten the existence of other peoples
so you advocate for american genocide since they threaten the existence of the middle eastern people and now of n korea? you suck at this
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>>144381889
They seem to be doing all the shooting so far. James hodgkins and this Vegas boomer. It's not set in stone paddock was a leftist but, Im willing to bet on it. The like media has us too afraid to even take the offensive.
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>>144382063
>muh CTR
JIDF also pays shills to shill here, anon.

>no you dont, more people in the US now talk about globalist, liberals or shapeshifting lizards than about the jews
why is this the case?
>so you advocate for american genocide since they threaten the existence of the middle eastern people and now of n korea?
I advocate the destruction of the past American State. I advocate for the death of all traitors, Jewish or otherwise. And I advocate Nationalism and not nation building. And if a country like Israel or America can't leave everyone else alone, then I advocate for their mutual destruction. But we're not there yet. America can still be saved and so can Israel.
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>>144369824
He is the spokesperson for one of the most organized and practical fascist organizations in the USA.

Good speaker, I do not agree with his politics though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7f9EGOlrMs

I enjoy this video because he educates a few ignorant ANTIFA and BTFO's a zionist at the same time.
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>>144382242
no they dont pay them, its a meme redditors contrived to mass the fact that they shit up this board with trump zionist dicksucking

also you suck at this, you demand rigid ideological stances but weasel your way out of all discussion when called out on your bullshit, sad!
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>>144382357
Just to add, if you want to know what real fascist political philosophy is about Matt Heimbach is the one to listen to, he knows his shit.
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>>144381985
I didn't say throw Taylor in the trash o just pointed out he thinks Jews are a ok and that he may have done work within his peer set anglin reached more. It's a group effort that needs to be hitting all angles. Remember all thoughs that can see and, interpret data are already here. We need to reach the slowtards that have been programmed since birth to follow their feefees.
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>>144382431
>no they dont pay them
pic related.
>you demand rigid ideological stances
i demand two things:

>The exposure of both Israel and the diaspora for the crimes of genocide and international terrorism
>White genocide stopped

which of those demands are you uncomfortable with?
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>>144369027
he didn't attend the sacramento battle where 300 antifa were waiting for his guys. basically 20 something skinheads and some skeletors were left to be dealt with by hordes of antifa.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dT2azmfWl4

this is where he and his meth crew gather.
heimbach has or had a podcast on his site. there are many more podcasts by other people done there.
he speaks and he has interesting ideas.
he doesn't translate those ideas in reality. he larps.
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>>144382630
facebook is not 4chan

neither, Im just poiting out you suck at this

the prime example is writing that praise kek was invented by dugin

ok, Im done
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>>144382773
you said my demands are too rigid.
which of my two demands is too rigid?
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>>144370635
>no one cares about fat larpers
>"u-ur a blumpffag!"

lel
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>be shill
>says demands too rigid but you cant say which ones or why
>realize you actually agree with me
>but you cant say that or you might get kicked out of the kike club
come find me when you get serious about saving the world.
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>>144382836
could you find me an article that says they pay shills to come here? i know they do so on facebook, because its a larger audience, but never seen it here.
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>>144383236
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/people/correct-the-record
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/jidf
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>>144382497
I agree, it's a group effort. Also, about Taylor's support of the Jews, I don't think he sincerely thinks they're white. He's just got to avoid the anti-Semite label.
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>>144383342
no, that's a meme. i want an article or something showing that they pay shills to come here specifically.
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>>144376214
You can blame him for all the nazbol/strasserist revivalist crap. Stupid commie motherfucker
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>>144383767
youre gonna pay to be your research assistant next time. or google it yourself m8.

http://rebrn.com/re/chan-poster-admits-to-being-a-correct-the-record-shill-admits-hi-2737210/
https://imgur.com/r/4chan/IMB4LH7
https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/57us43/correct_the_record_internal_memo_found_on_4chan/

also pic related
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>>144383767
You can't be this ignorant? after all we revealed during the election? People posting actual name, address and payments transcripts?

jees
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>>144383997
i've been here for a very long time m8. i know all about jidf in terms of facebook, especially in 2014. what i want is proof that they specifically sent them here. which you haven't provided me with.
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>>144384266
i know about ctr and shareblue. not denying that. im not talking about that.
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>>144384270
what is pic related here >>144383997
and >>144382242

>>144384266
i think hes trying to deflect the convo away from how shitty all the WN groups are and onto something pointless like this till the thread 404s. could be wrong tho.
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>>144384539
that's not proof of it being on 4chan.
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>>144384631
>their own words dont prove anything
yeah youre shilling. trying to run the thread down with pointless arguments. not interested, anon. but if youd like to talk about how we can stop white genocide im all ears.
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>>144384754
there's nothing about 4chan mentioned. there @jidf twitter account was run by people on /pol/ and it got suspended for being """racist""" in the end. are you that new? still no proof provided by you though.
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>>144384807
>yeah youre shilling. trying to run the thread down with pointless arguments. not interested, anon. but if youd like to talk about how we can stop white genocide im all ears.

so?
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>>144384830
so you couldn't back up your claim which you seem to have fabricated. that's all. i'm very much against paid shills, such as ctr and shareblue, and i'm always looking for proof of further shills' existence. that's all.
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>>144384912
its common knowledge.
http://mirror.uncyc.org/wiki/JIDF

>all these sources and screenshots are fake

im done arguing this pointless topic anon. it doesnt stop white genocide or benefit me in any way even to win this argument. would you like to talk about how we can save our people or not?
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Seems to be someone who would only appeal to whites who are already aware. I don't think he'd bring anyone from the outside in.

That said, no, he's not a leader at all. He needs to lose weight and get into shape. I'm a chad and I don't want someone like him representing me. He's young and has plenty of time to get in shape though. I wish him the best of luck.
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>>144384998
nothing about fake. you haven't proven that they're paid to come here. you did however prove that you're quite new by not knowing about the @jidf twitter account and using that as proof.
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>>144385160
>no i do not want to talk about white genocide because im here to muddy the waters with pointless arguments about jidf shills
you could have just said so m8
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>>144377325
Who the fuck thinks selling slav religion/leadership to scots-irish bapists in appalachia is a good idea?
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>>144385258
not an argument. so you can't prove it. that's all i wanted to know here.
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>>144385303
romanians aren't slavs
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>>144378103
The skinheads usually have no merit in the ideology they try to follow. But they are useful for Violence. And boosting numbers. Half of America is no longer white, we are short on options
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>>144385362
>all these sources arent proof
>i win
god youre bad this mate. you just took up the post count like I said you were doing. just stay on facebook already.
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>>144369027
Spencer is aesthetic.
Heimbach is overweight and dresses like a larper.
That's not to say he's not right about stuff.
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>>144385540
>all these sources
>not one showing paying shills to come to 4chan
not sure why this is bothering you.
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>>144385648
why are you interested in debating whether or not shills are paid to post in 4chan and you arent interested in a dialogue to stop white genocide?

how much are YOU being paid to shill here? :3
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>>144385717
>makes a claim
>asked for proof
>can't prove it
>moves goalposts
ok. so you can't prove it.
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>>144385825
if I concede I cant *prove* shills are paid to shill on /pol/ will you enter into a dialogue to help stop white genocide? ill even make a new thread ^_^
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>>144369027
he's a fat disgrace
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>>144385896
>if I concede I cant *prove* shills are paid to shill on /pol/
i was talking about jidf specifically. not other groups. but you don't need to concede, you've proven that you can't prove it. such a find would be massive an really helpful - the very reason I'm asking for the proof.
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>>144386106
proof JIDF shills on 4chan
>>144382242
proof Correct the Record shills on 4chan

and you still wont talk about white genocide. stay defeated shill <3
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>>144386585
>44 posts in
>still no proof of jidf being paid to shill on 4chan specifically
ok...
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>>144386585
what is pic related here >>144382242
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>>144386724
nothing about 4chan in any articles. facebook (and possibly twitter, yes).
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>>144386838
>israel has decided to reach out to young men by publishing semi-nude photos of ex-female defense workers to promote the idea of based israel
>4chan is flooded with israel posters posting semi-nude photos of ex-female defense workers to promote the idea of based israel
>this is totally unrelated and not proof of anything thoi

I win.
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>>144386928
>4chan is flooded with israel posters posting semi-nude photos of ex-female defense workers to promote the idea of based israel
4chan has always been flooded with kikes. 4chan was started by a kike. kikes have been here from the start, long before /pol/ and long before /new/ and long before those articles . so you really are that new. interesting.
>i win
nope, you still haven't proven anything about them being paid to be here. you're only saying that you've won because you can't prove it.it's ok to be wrong, anon, that's how we all learn.
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>>144387144
show us when 4chan was flooded with semi-nude israeli soldiers prior to the JIDF operation :) or i win.
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>>144374468
This.

The guy's clearly intelligent (and is a great orator), but he neglects the aesthetic aspect of the ideology. Aesthetics have always been an integral part of national socialism, and his neglect of this area shows that he still has some learning to do.

Any group, such as the TWP, which not only tolerates, but encourages, skinheads, the KKK and other assorted white trash isn't really worthy of any serious national socialist's time.
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>>144387274
>moving goalposts because he's been BTFO and proven new
doesn't work like that. you've made the claim, now prove it.
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>>144387395
are you his boyfriend here to protect his honor?
>prove it
pic related here >>144382242

and if you say nothing about that pic relates to 4chan then show us all an example of 4chan being flooded with semi-nude kikes before the JIDF began this operation :) go ahead. ill wait.
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>>144378630
For all his faults, Spencer understands the importance of looking good. I trust him to lead a movement much more than I do Heimbach.
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>>144387484
>doesn't know about IDs
>being this new
you're really embarrassing yourself right now.
you still can't prove that they were paid to come here to shill. i'll wait for you to prove it, otherwise you've just shown that you've fabricated something out of thing air....
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>>144387705
>i cant give even one example of semi-nude israeli girls being spammed on /pol/ before JIDF
you lose ^_^
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>>144387838
>makes claim
>can't prove it
>changes topic
>gets mad
so you lied and now sperging out because you're wrong. enjoy being defeated at this argument.
https://archive.org/details/someold4chanstuff
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>>144380629
Anglin is a great writer/propagandist. Give him some credit.
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>>144369027
Heimbach has a lot of growing up to do still, will be interesting to see what he can accomplish in the next 15 years.
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>>144369027

>but Heimbach is an open Strasserist.

And an open buffet lover as well it would seem.
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>>144387917
>JIDF in news for new campaign spreading semi-nude Jew girls online
>suddenly /pol/ is flooded with semi-nude Jew girls
>totally unrelated

you loooose so bad im not even proud bruh just feelin kinda bad for you
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None of these people or groups are interested in exposing Israel and stopping white genocide. They tell you to fight the Muslims or the liberal diaspora. Anyone but Israel! But what if we fought all three: Israel, the diaspora and Islam?
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>>144388048
so prove that they're paid to post on 4chan, like you claimed. we've proven ctr and shareblue do. i'm not ruling that jidf doesn't, but i'd like proof. which you can't do. you tried, and failed miserably, at changing the topic - a sign of a defeated man. you've also proven not to know how IDs work on here too - a sign of a newfag.

so i'll ask again. it's very simple. can you prove, with evidence (such as ctr/shareblue) that jidf are being paid to post on 4chan....
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>>144369027
>How come /pol/ never talks about Matt Heimbach? I see many threads on Richard Spencer, that accuse him of being a communist, but Heimbach is an open Strasserist.

Heimbach is quite possibly the only person in the WN movement I dislike more than Richard Spencer. Heimshart doesn't even look white and acts as a posterchild for the fat, LARPing "neo-Nazi" who makes a big show of himself but doesn't actually accomplish anything. It's like the epitome of 90's white nationalism but instead of some scrawny, shaven-head Mongoloid you have a fatass, mystery meat ""Orthodox"" LARPer.

Although people like Anglin or Weev are far too pro-socialism, at least I view them as positive contributors to the cause and actually seem like genuine people.
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>>144388202
give a logical alternative for why 4chan was suddenly blasted with the same pics JIDF said they were spreading to promote Zionism online? if theres no alternative explanation then theres no reason to believe the two arent connected and you just dont want it to be the truth. so give a reason?
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>>144388126
>But what if we fought everyfuckingbody
That worked so well last time didn't it.
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>>144388307
that's not proof. kikes have been here from day one, just like niggers and spics (and even "roasties") all sperging out when they get called out. we like to work with facts here, it's not tumblr or plebbit. now, you've made a claim and i've asked for solid proof. can you prove it or not. if you do, i'll accept it. so take your time.
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>>144388347
last time when? not hitler you mean..
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>>144388405
>kikes have been here from day one
great. then show us all some kikes spamming semi-nude former israeli female soldiers before the JIDF operation to spam semi-nude former israeli soldiers :) go ahead ill wait.
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>>144388459
ok. so you can't prove it. thank you for at least trying. i know it's bothering you, i can tell by the way you're sperging out and by the way you're trying to turn the table on me - for me to provide proof. it doesn't work like that. the burden of proof lies with you - you made the claim.
>inb4 another sperg out
i know it's in you, you seem real bothered....
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>>144388606
>ok so you cant show these pic spammed on 4chan prior to the JIDF operation and there is no reason to think JIDF didnt spam those pics on 4chan and still do
stay defeated ^_^
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>>144388661
>makes claim
>asked for proof
>can't prove it
>spergs out when called out on it
>tries to change the subject
>fails miserably
ok. so you can't prove what you claimed. at least we all know now. thanks for trying. perhaps you' feel more at home over at plebbit - where facts aren't required. thanks for participating newfag.

stay mad
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>>144388202
>can you prove, with evidence (such as ctr/shareblue) that jidf are being paid to post on 4chan....

see:

>>144386585
>>144382242

>when im owning you in actual debate so you deflect to something pointless but i own you there too

lel. ok its 5 am here in cali. have a good night. maybe youll beat me tomorrow? :3
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>>144389033
>makes claim
>can't prove it
>realizes he's been btfo
>decides to go to sleep
finally. you've accepted that you're wrong. thanks again for participating. perhaps tomorrow you can prove your claim, that way you won't lose this debate again.
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