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Anyone else make the jump?
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No. No one who sees what goes wrong with collectivism would actively vie for it.
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fash is 2015-2016, you missed that train anon

The progression cycle is:

Democrat/Republican normie > Progressive/Libertarian 420fags > Civic Nationalism/Hitler memer/Crytomememoney > Technodemocracy/Technocrats/Optimized Artificial Intelligent policy making > Thermodynamic Energy-based Quantum Currency > Globalism/Universalism
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>>144399217
Still libertarian here. Though, in an election, I will would vote for perceived fash over neo-conservative any day of the week.
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>>144401777
individualist weakling
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>>144401995

>Civic nationalism
>Hitler

Oy vey now, we're globalists!

Beautiful lass btw
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I think the reason people make the jump (or do it with a view to future ancap) is because they know there is just zero chance at all with open borders liberalism, the next stage of which is all the worst parts of socialism and capitalism.
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>>144401777
this

still libertarian still don't know what an Aleppo is
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>>144402481
Have some ass and feet
https://imgur.com/a/E9QJs
https://www.instagram.com/lisapeachy/
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>>144399217
Getting more pro fash all the time. Probably because its becoming less clear a libertarian society is possible in a massive superstate filled with leftist undesirables.
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>>144399217
The individualism propagated by lolbertarians is entirely left wing to its core and aligns with progressives Marxism in our social climate
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>>144402783
fuck off back to north korea you retarded collectivist
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>>144402783
I believe the family unit to be the smallest workable asset of a nation, not xir and your mtf girlfriend taking birth control
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>>144402971
Alright faggot, here: >>144403189
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>>144401777
trips of truth
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>>144402322
>standing as a unit of one in protection of those I hold dear, willing to fight and die for my god-given rights
>weakling
SAVE A LIFE
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>>144401995
how do I progres from Hitler memer?
I've been stuck there for the entire year
I've literally wept when thinking about how perfect everything would be if Hitler won
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>>144399217
For years now, my libertarian values have coexisted with a deep hatred for black and sandniggers. I am fine with drug use and gay marriage aswell as gun ownership, niggers are simply inferior and must be wiped from the west.
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>>144399217
>going from individuality to collectivism
Might as well go libertarian to commie
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I followed christopher cantwell's decline from libertarianism to white nationalism. It was a very entertaining thing to see.

At the end of the day I wouldn't recommend it though.
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>>144399217
No. But choosing between SJW/feminism and fascism is a fairly simple choice.

The latter wants to preserve the country through unity while feminists want to trash the country and divide the people along artificial intersectional groups where uselessness is a virtue.

Luckily I still don't have to pick one of those two, but when I do it will be a simple choice.
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>>144404007
It helps if you have a STEM/finance background

Each progression stages subverts the previous

Migrate to /biz/ if you wanna get shilled for a bit to open you up to the financial world.

Otherwise if you are happy where you are at, then stay there.

True globalism is like buddhism, the only goal is to acquire fiat asap and push technology forward asap and die happy

Jew Globalism is quite subversive yes, but it’s the same as crony capitalism and should be labeled under the Technocrats stage

True Globalism would subvert the frameworks of the previous stage
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>>144399217
>implying these are at all incompatible
Polygamy is the answer
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>>144401995
Normie>libertarian>ancap>Nazism>Fascism>NAZBOL

Redpill is realizing white people can make any system work if it's done nationalistic, since communsim (if done socially right wing) is the most nationalistic ideology there is since everything is done for the good of your people rather then capilsts wanting to fuck over your people for short gained profit and the cost of your own brothers and sisters

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_x46jEtNNQ
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>>144404806
>True globalism is like buddhism, the only goal is to acquire fiat asap and push technology forward asap and die happy
Yea just make fiat money and consume goyim!
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>>144404828
>nazbol airforce
You expect to siphon some of my labour value to fund it?
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>>144399217
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>>144401777
There's more truth in this statement than in entire thousands of pages of treaties.
Rights and liberty are sacrificed in a collectivist society.
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>>144404828
>Communism is nationalistic
>Communism is literally based on internationalism, globalism, and progressivism, their slogan literally calls for the world to (((unite))) as one
At least try to understand your own fucking ideology
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go read Evola and get your head our of your ass.
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>>144404828

Nazbol is fucking retarded

Communism won't work simply because white people will do it. Stalinism didn't go over so fucking well, did it? Fuck outta here with your Communism for Goyims bullshit. Fucking faggot
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>>144401777

Derrr my entire dialetic is INDIVIDUALISM vs COLLECTIVISM horhorhor

Maybe you should read some old European philosophy

As if everything before Murray Rothbard was fucking leftist.

I think Capitalism is still the best system thus far, but acting like Monarchism or Fascism is left wing simply because it isn't Ancap theory is autistic as fuck
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No, still Libertarian, but I'm well aware that it can only work when you remove the undesirables from society, thus all commies must be physically removed a-la Hoppe.

I don't believe in Fascism still, because once a state is given incredible amounts of power, it becomes very difficult for them to relinquish it.
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>>144403580
But that's esoteric fascism.
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>>144405009
Will if it needs too

>>144405331
"I haver never heard of nazbol or the many forms of nationalistic socialism one which Americans themselves blow into hell" flooding Europe with niggers

>>144405364
Fascism is fucking retarded

Authoritarianism won't work simply because white people will do it. Fascism didn't go over so fucking well, did it? Fuck outta here with your world war and destroying Europe of the party bullshit. Fucking faggot
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>>144399217
>>144401777
>not be an anarcho-fascist

shaking my head to be honest family
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>>144402762

We need Fascism to preserve our libertarian cultural values. Won't happen when we have a ton of non whites being hyped up by kikes

Synthesizing Fascism and Liberalism is basically American Fascism
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>>144405703
>nazbol meme
How does it feel to be rejected by both Nazis and Communists?
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>>144405703
>voluntary exchanges of goods for labour are banned, only compulsory state enforced exchanges of goods for labour are allowed
What could possibly go wrong
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>>144399217
Im currently mid flight. It wont be long for the liberals and pussy libertarians to help me land safely on the alt-right.
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>libertarians
>capable of understanding that as long as there are undesirables who will vote against you, you'll never have the freedom a libertarian society will provide
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>>144405703

Except Fascism didn't cause the second world war

I'm sure Stalin was quite the white nationalist

Even whites can't overcome the Economic Calculation problem
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>>144399217
People who make that jump is because they're too beta to take advantage of freedom so they get butthurt and try to limit the freedom of everyone else to lower them to their pathetic level.
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>>144405707
I prefer National-Capitalism, or perhaps Minarcho-Monarchist
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>>144405834
I don't pretend to like either of them

Hitler was a cuck who shot himself, and got his country torn in half like a kid having a autistic tantrum, muh danzig reeeeeeee

Communists are kike globalist faggot who need the rope
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>>144405903

Libertarianism / classical liberalism is too abstract of a concept for undesirables and too easily manipulated by the kikes
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>>144405944

Can dig it
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>>144405921
are you saying white nationalists are the ones limiting freedom? da fuk
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>>144406072

Makes about as much sense as the brain child of Communism and National Socialism
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>>144405887
Lets trade in dead babies, and slaves

wtf I can't do that HELP the state is oppressing me, oh shit it's 1939 and two authoritarian states are on either side of me, so much for democratic and liberal individualist values
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>>144399217
Not really. I believe in total self governance down to the individual level. Of course on a personal level I believe a white ethnostate would be best and I believe in traditionalist values, however, I dont want to press these views against anyone else. And if the means to achieving these things means I must establish a gigantic state with humongous overreaching power than I have become the very thing I hate
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>>144405977
>thinks that both nazis and communists are trash, but follows an ideology that combines parts of both
really makes me think tbqh
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>>144406219

Then it's a paradox

We need Fascist means to reinstate a liberal / libertarian social order for whites
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Fascists are something I like to watch, not something I like to play at myself. People ought to be strong and to look towards grand ambitions. I think they should do so under a market framework that will rectify their available methods towards the pro-social, but I'm fascinated by watching the will to power operating in other frameworks, too.
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>>144406359

Das some eradicate war via war logic
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>>144404007
Same here, scandibro
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>>144406218
Who would buy dead babies? Who sells dead babies? And you can't really enslave someone without compulsion.
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>>144406072
Well of course, when you try to police your morals and even genes for everyone else under authoritarian rule that's the opposite of freedom.
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>>144399217
I did.
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>>144406502
Some morals and genes are objectively better than others :)
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The real question is, is Spencer just a White Nationalist or is he a faggot Nazbol in hiding?

On his old podcast Vanguard he would always get salty when people made fun of 20th century Communism or Marx
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>>144399217
Ancap to monarchist.

Sympathetic to natsoc but feel it would end up being entrenched with bureaucracy and corruption in long term.
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>>144405903
It is here that lolberts are self defeating like communists and get flung far right to enforce their system upon an existing one or to maintain an existing one.
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>>144406591

I think Monarchism is the perfect system for libertarians who are switching over but don't want to give up Capitalism

Much respectzz
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>>144406589
I don't get why anyone would want this guy as their leader. He's good as a spokesperson sometimes I guess but he's a faggot so you can't trust him at all. Not to mention that he has said some very stupid shit.
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I am thinking about it. There can be no freedom without order in society.

Traditionally, as was the case in America circa the 1800s, this order was imposed by society through peer pressure and public sanctions, rather than the state. Taboos such as promiscuity, single-motherhood, public welfare exploitation, divorce, were harshly punished by citizens to maintain order, in which a society can remain healthy and sustainable. Peers would be ostracized for their bad decisions, in order to save the whole. However, there were no laws which punished these behaviors. But now, that order has been disrupted by the sexual revolution, women's liberation, the decline of social capital, consumerism, and rampant addictions. Chronically low birthrates are a result of this disorder as well, where in Europe the native population will most likely become a minority in their own countries in 100 years. When an ethnic population dies, its shared culture dies with it.

Because people became too lax when imposing order on each other, this necessitates an autocratic state stepping in and imposing order with its iron hand, or that society will slowly commit suicide as it engages in nation-wide hedonism, at the expense of future generations.

A despotic government is unsavory, but it could be the only solution to fix deep-rooted societal ills, which threaten the survival of an entire ethnic group, in this case Europeans. Unless people can become conscious of these issues and work together to improve themselves and their communities, I don't see how the democratic process can solve these pressing issues.
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>>144406502
You're assuming that freedom is a desirable thing.
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>>144405921
Freedom doesn't exist is society. There is only order or chaos.
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>>144405921
I'm sure everyone prefers Somalia to nazi Germany.
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>>144406584
So I guess you can prove that with reproducible and indisputable evidence using your multiple degrees and noble prices... I don't think you know what objectivity means, son.
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>>144406716

Totally agree, not as a leader but he has some great podcasts on the intellectual history of European thought.

I'm just wondering if he's a faggy Nazbol in hiding
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>>144405703
Fascist economies were powerhouses. It took the whole world to stop Hitler.
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>>144406502
I understand that was Hitler and the Nazi agenda, but the white nationals of today really aren't trying to police anyones genes. In all honesty they are really just choosing to live their way of life in a particular manner and some voice their opinions about it. At the end of the day, most of them dont give a fuck what anyone else is doing. Its not like they are running around being violent and shit.
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>>144405903
>>144406012
>>144406672
>vote
how old are you. what is the lowest price you have paid for a bitcoin?
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>>144406824

I would agree but my old Austrian prespective would possibly argue that Fascism wasn't around long enough to see its bubble / malinvestment crash

Plus before the war they still had large market aspects
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>>144406359
You can only be option A or option B
Really makes me think

>>144406485
>Who would buy dead babies? Who sells dead babies?
Capitalists, imagine throwing away dead babies what a wasted profit, we could use them as some short of untraceable short lived way of trading goods without statist scum finding out

>And you can't really enslave someone without compulsion.
Buddy that's life, either you did what the Nazi's wanted or Stalin, you can't b-but we're neutral out of global politics, I'm sure Tibet and their pacifistic ways got them real far

I thought Poland would of known this knowing it didn't even have a state for a years and years, got spat out after ww1 then reswallowed for another 60 or something years
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>>144406807
>I guess you can prove that with reproducible and indisputable evidence using your multiple degrees and noble prices
Other people have, yes.
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>>144406738
Well that was my point. It is undesirable for beta losers who are too socially inept and lack creativity to make something worthwhile out of their lives with the freedom they are given so they find it easier to support authoritarian rule to make everyone sink to their pathetic condition of being losers with restricted options where they can shine in their mediocrity.
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>>144406371
Good luck getting the Fascist state to let go of it's power.
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>>144406371
We need a cincinnatus style dictatorship that will restore a republic after all jewish and otherwise subversive forces have been purged
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>>144406873
During the blockchain genesis I bought buttcoins like candy bars to buy mmo gold from Chinese people.
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>>144405233
They weren't in National Socialist Germany.
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>>144401995
>technology is the crux of the "progression cycle"

Why do idiots always fall for this meme?
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>ancap

No that's fuckin retarded. I see myself as a syndicalist, although with conservative and traditional values.
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>>144406949
>restricted options where they can shine in their mediocrity
No, that's communism. Fascism does not seek to bring everyone down to the lowest common denominator, but rather accepts hierarchy to the fullest extent.
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>>144406853
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>>144399217
I was a fascist until I realize I can still being one in my own property.
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We must physically remove degenerates.
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>>144407024
Everything is subject under Hitler, you had by definition no rights, only privileges granted by Hitler
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>>144399217
a nation is forged from the out side in.
black on white racism is creating the white nation in america
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>>144406584
Tbh you can use moral relativism to enforce your own morals on others
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>>144407163
>you had by definition no rights, only privileges
Just like today?
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>>144406853
and like these guys
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>>144399217
>idiotic, immature contrarian that jumper from polar opposites on the ideological spectrum because fash is "in" right now...

kys please
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>>144406731

>"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." -- Benjamin Franklin
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>>144407163

The only Nazbol country I can think of today is North Korea. What a strong economically united people, eh? lmfao

>Wur gomin Buckoz
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>>144406807
I don't need to prove it, I'm not trying to convince you, I'm making a statement. A true statement, nonetheless. We know that genes related with intelligence are not evenly distributed across populations. We know that some morals are objectively better because they leave to more orderly and fruitful societies with happier people and advanced knowledge of both the natural law and metaphysics. Again, not trying to prove anything. Making statements.
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>>144402322
Do you hate yourself or something?

>*looks at flag*

Oh, never mind.
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>>144406853
No one is really threatening the white people to do as they please as long as their liberties don't hinder the liberties of others which is an inescapable fact of living in a free society. You can't just pretend you live in a bubble protected from the real world, that's unrealistic. Some kind of compromises have to be made and not surprisingly those that have had it easier historically are the ones that have to sacrifice more to make things work. That doesn't mean you have to sacrifice everything but the principle of my freedom ends where the other's freedom starts applies here.
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>>144406929
Dude I don't know what the fuck you're talking about, honestly. Simple fact: economic freedom ties to economic prosperity, sperging out cause Chad had a better car than you and literally banning the market makes you shit, makes you an easy target for whatever country is around you. The USA didn't even need to fire shots at the USSR, it just fell apart in a fucking generation. Exact same things happens in your Nazbol paradise, kill millions of your own population, make portions of your country completely uninhabitable, and then set yourself 70 years behind every other country on the planet after you are inevitably forced to privatize.
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>>144406949
you're mixing up your terms to compare executed communism, using a fascist system to enforce quality, to an already fascist system that doesn't. Once again showing the lolbert loop, were it inevitably fails as well in the same vein as communism put to practice.
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>>144407433

>Ancom
>liberties

So what will happen if I decide to not give up my property and means of production? Who will run it after? A sort of government? Oh wait no just a worker's commune lmao
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>>144402322
>Not needing to be in a herd
>weak
oy vey
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>>144405599
Wish we could just have philosopher King’s. We truly are fallen from grace.
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>>144406929
Oh and one more thing, Bolsheviks couldn't even defeat a Poland that had just come into existence after being occupied for a hundred years.
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>>144407079
That's fucking BS, any type of authoritarian rule be it communist or fascist means basically the extreme limit of freedom. And fascism is by its essence completely authoritarian.
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>>144399217
Paleolibertarianism is best.

I actually made the jump from Fash-sympathizing to Libertarian.
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>>144401777
"muh shekels reeee"
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>>144407616

Interesting

*Desire to know more intensifies*
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>>144407357
>We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion . . . Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other. - John Adams
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>>144406949
That's communism, son. I don't care if fascism excludes me(it doesn't, because we want ethnostates for every people, except european mixed convert jews, of course). I know it will lead to a future with FULFILLED HUMAN BEINGS and I will live through them. Honor is preserved. One of the laws of nature :)
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>>144399217
You're still an asshole though.
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>>144407433
>my freedom ends where the other's freedom starts
Is this arguing for or against baking the cake?
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>>144407703

Force kikes to bake swastika cakes made out of niggers and commie flesh
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>>144407610
>means basically the extreme limit of freedom
Read >>144406738

Freedom is different from heirarchy
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>>144406731
It's not just social pressure that shapes culture and morality, it's Darwinian pressure. With birth control and welfare, certain natural checks have been eliminated. We killed the cat, and now mice are everywhere.
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>>144399217
Anyone have the political compass meme where the commie tries to step on the snek and the snek rises to fashy status?
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>>144407792
They won’t even care. Anything for a shekel. The real holocaust was not allowing the kikes working the ovens to unionize.
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>>144407830

Good point, which is why libertarianism does have similar values to Fascism

Social Darwinism via capitalism

Feminism and Marxism won't be able to last on its own
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>>144407243
Not really Trump can't just order all white people to to go build the wall, I'm sure he could pull some strings and do some Obama bombing but for the most part the West still have many personal laws

Now you can say authoritarian governments actually protect privileges better then open societys but you aint got no rights, since a one guy can just take them all away on his whim

I get your point though, geroge soros and his band of goonies can fiddle around a good amount on people rights, but rights are only backed up by guns not words on paper

>>144407358
And I can't even think of a fascist country either if you wanna go down that road
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>>144407470
Fucking rekt.
It's almost like actual ideas beats ideology based on memes made by no gf faggots.
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>>144404806
>>144404007
>>144404828
normie>libertarian>fascist>natsoc

Even though I'll take anything in the US at this point but I would really want national socialism. I've been here ever since /new/
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>>144407227
That's an interesting viewpoint. Is this a quote or did you find it randomly on the web? If there's a source, pls give
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>>144407433
The anarchist jokes write themselves I swear to God.
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>>144408032
Why?
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>>144407433
There is literally nothing wrong with conflict and resolution.
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>>144406589
Spencer is a literal fucking socialist who believes in single-payer healthcare and wealth redistribution. He's a literal leftist.
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>>144408247

The only thing "right" about him is that he's a white nationalist

That's why I think he's really just a Nazbol faggot
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>>144407470
Dude I don't know what the fuck you're talking about, honestly. Simple fact: economic freedom ties to economic prosperity,
Also economic oppression millions go Hungary or freeze during the winter months in America, that isn't nationalism, they invade arab countries for oil and ever need for profits brings in shitskins

You also feel for the meme of more profits = better, more economics growth ie 3 people getting an iPhone 8 and 9 while another one of your citizens goes Hungary is not nationalism nor good

>The USA didn't even need to fire shots at the USSR, it just fell apart in a fucking generation. Exact same things happens in your Nazbol paradise, kill millions of your own population, make portions of your country completely uninhabitable, and then set yourself 70 years behind every other country on the planet after you are inevitably forced to privatize.

Strawman shit, also USSR was not nazbol, not even Stalin was NAZBOL, also muh rights gives you weinmar germany, modern germany,USA ironically fascists and others freedom to argue to take them all away
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>>144408139
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/320357-if-relativism-signifies-contempt-for-fixed-categories-and-those-who
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>>144407433
>No one is really threatening the white people to do as they please
Really?? you can type that with a straight face?

>as long as their liberties don't hinder the liberties of others
I think the only people trying to change liberties is the left, with pronouns, speech, guns, etc... They are just trying to live their lives, the left, SJW's, Antifa, etc. are the ones trying to get in the way of that and change things. I get it, compromises need to be made from both sides and the right has trouble admitting that as well.

>those that have had it easier historically are the ones that have to sacrifice more to make things work
I dont agree. I think that the ones demanding such drastic change need to compromise more. It is ultimately what they want and the change they want, so they have to be able to compromise. It is typical SJW mindset to think "We want alllll this change and everyone to adapt to our way of life, so you white nationalists have to sacrifice this, this, and this to make it happen." NO, thats not how it works.
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>fascism
>traditionalism
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>>144408356

Communism 4 Goyims will work guyz
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>>144408032
Fascism is better then natsoc, Mussolini and Franco had far better and successful societys then Hitler

natsoc actually throws away a lot of the traditionalist nation state ideas popularized by fascists and traditionalists in favor of pure racialism and shitty we wuz tier science, ending in a world war and the destruction of your society where as Franco is sitting comfy in spain
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>>144408452
Thanks my man
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>>144408510

Nazbol seems to be getting popular more, see a lot of murmurs

Just people who left the Alt right and became leftists who still are WNs

It will eat itself up, pol and tankies will oddly enough both kill an ideology that combines both lmao

>pic of senpai unrelated
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>>144399217
yep. side hoe looking better every day.
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>>144406589
He is just another shabbos goy. Don't trust that faggot.
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>>144401777
For me its easy to see the appeal of Nazi Germany 1933-39 to many people, and the strengths that sort of system brings. Stamping out degeneracy, giving people proper morals and direction, rewarding the strong and extinguishing the weak, gearing society toward important goals in an efficient manner. What the Germans accomplished in the short span of peace time National Socialism is incredible. I believe in a lot of the authoritarian concepts in practice but there are massive caveats much in the same way that Communism is all rosy and great in the eyes of communists and such a miserable failure in practice.

>but anon, National Socialism wasn't a failure. It was a smashing success prior to the war

True, but Germany at that time was a very special place at a particular period in time. The conditions which made it possible are unique and cannot be replicated. Imagine trying to vest total dictatorial power in one charismatic leader and a fascist party in the United States. We could not possibly trust that group of people to conduct themselves with honor and decency. Fascism would be a complete disaster in the United States. I view libertarian ideas as a more practical solution to leftist/communist rhetoric in most cases. Holding individualism and freedom above all else is still imperfect in many ways, and I think a lot of the time individualism and freedom are to an extent an illusion under such a system anyway. In a system where money=freedom you end up being "free" to do the most logical thing which is surrender your freedom most of the time in exchange for money. You still have your overlords who control your life through presenting you with shitty option A and shitty option B and tell you how great it is that you have a choice.The main factor that makes up for this in my mind is that even though it isn't easy or simple all the time, avenues exist to allow someone to move from the bottom to the top using their own wits and determination.
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Monarchy may be better than Fascism

But Fascism is aesthetic af
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>>144408890
>But Fascism is aesthetic af

yes
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>>144408510
nice strawman there discount monarchism
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>>144408802

He's a Nazbol fag
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>>144408890
>Monarchy may be better than Fascism
Is it though? I'm not against hereditary rule, but the principles and ideals behind monarchy don't appeal to me.
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>>144407227
Hmm, so this is what looks like today's Lefty Fascism.
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>>144409134


Not sure

But if you don't wanna dump Capitalism then it works. If a King owns the state he's not going to let kikes fiscally debt the nation

He'd probably let trade unions exist without the state's tit too to keep workers from going full gommunizm
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>>144409134
Just elect people the same way fascists do but only from the royal family
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>>144401777
this. only enormous faggots would make that jump
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>>144408356
Have you really not payed attention to the dysgenic effects of welfare in america? You think more welfare will fix things? In America the homeless are given the freedom to beg in the streets, or to work to get their lives back on their feet. You know what happens in Nazbol paradise? They get sent to Gulags and are worked to death by the millions.

>You also feel for the meme of more profits = better
No I fell for the meme of "society which can sustain itself is good", without growth you lose before you get out of the gate. The entire existence of the human race is predicated on struggle. You know who never starves? A banobo, and a banobo also never has a reason to do anything but eat and fuck, my what a paradise.

You're telling me I can't use the USSR as an example of what your society would look like, but you don't tell me how yours would be different.
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>>144409311
Well I like the idea of the leader grooming an heir for after his death, but I don't think this heir necessarily should have to be related by blood.
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>>144409364

So you don't mind becoming a minority? Kewlll
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>White Nationalists become Ethno-Nationalists
>Ethno-Nationalists become Terran Nationalists
>Terran Nationalists become Sol Nationalists
>Sol Nationalists become Cluster Nationalists
>Cluster Nationalists become Sector Nationalists
>Sector Nationalists become Galactic Nationalists
>Galactic Nationalists become Universal Nationalists
>Universal Nationalists become Dimensional Nationalists
>Dimensional Nationalists become Inter Dimensional Nationalists.
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>>144405115
Jesus, that pic is savage.


Saved
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>>144405115

Amazing bahahahaha
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>>144408814
I understand where you're coming from. I personally fall to more of a paleocon than a fascist even though I defended them for most of the thread.
My main gripe with lolberts is their individualism, we're I prefer the family unit of old America being the base of the social system. Lolberts are self defeating in the same sense as commies. How they can follow their own ideology in the American system without enforcing it themselves? It's a fleeting fantasy for idealists who don't break down what it is and bend the knee to unexisting stories by other lolberts.
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>>144409425
>Have you really not payed attention to the dysgenic effects of welfare in america? You think more welfare will fix things? In America the homeless are given the freedom to beg in the streets, or to work to get their lives back on their feet. You know what happens in Nazbol paradise? They get sent to Gulags and are worked to death by the millions.

Capitalist society is not the correct eugenics
Capitalist eugenics = Jews, sneaky backstabbing lying long nose to smell out profits
Fascist/Nazbol/Nazi eugenics = European Men,strong,nationalitic,men among men

You don't have to let your own people starve to practice eugenics, even Hitler guaranteed all his people houses and jobs with enough of a minimum pay to raise a family off but we don't say he's anti-eugenic

>No I fell for the meme of "society which can sustain itself is good", without growth you lose before you get out of the gate. The entire existence of the human race is predicated on struggle. You know who never starves? A banobo, and a banobo also never has a reason to do anything but eat and fuck, my what a paradise.

Good thing people still work and come up with new inventions in commie land especially when added with some nationalism

>You're telling me I can't use the USSR as an example of what your society would look like, but you don't tell me how yours would be different.
Because I'm not a Communist, communism is shit and glablist kike trash you see my flag there? It dosn't say Communist,
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>>144409905

>sickle and hammer
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>>144410112
And Nazi's used a old Pagan tier symbol and literally used these coins but we don't call them pagan communists cause we know what kind of people call themselves that

>sickle and hammer
Tools of the working class, if you wann go compare the doctrines of Communism against nazbol you'll find nazbol has more in common with the third posiiton then Communism

The Third Position or Third Alternative is a political position that emphasizes opposition to both communism and capitalism. Advocates of Third Position politics typically present themselves as "beyond left and right", while syncretizing ideas from each end of the political spectrum, usually reactionary right-wing cultural views and radical left-wing economic views.
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>>144409905
This is all worthless platitude, you don;t tell me HOW you prevent welfare from being dysgenic, you just assure me that it will. You tell me you'll be more nationalistic than the USSR, which was already nationalistic, so all the problems will be fixed. You're conflating economic growth with "come up with new inventions" ("especially when added with some nationalism
" what the fuck does that even mean?). It's so juvenile I'm now thinking you've just been fucking with me this whole time.
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>>144407663
In a nutshell, traditionalist conservative ancap or libertarianism, privately owned and purely voluntary.

The privatization means there's a vested interest in a community's long-term and even multigenerational benefit of both the owners and inhabitants, not unlike a functional monarchy.

Because it's voluntary, however, degenerates may be booted out or excluded, and inhabitants are also not coerced to stay or to do anything beyond upholding whatever contractual obligations they agree to, including the terms of living in the community.

The issue with fascism (and any kind of authoritarianism, really) is that it develops coercive or otherwise bureaucratic mechanisms which tend to stay in place regardless of what kind of leadership inherits the regime in the long run. By virtue of the fact that most all organizations drift left with time, you eventually end up with """progressives""", socialists, or communists welding that power over citizens against their will.
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These are my favorite threads, please continue I love reading through them.
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>>144409134
It's not a perfect system but at least we can agree that is better than democracy. And fascism isn't inherently anti-democratic -see Mosley- but can be meritocratic and functional.
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If you've "made the jump" it's because you don't care anymore and have literally given in to some of the worst ideologies in history. It's people like you that ruin good websites like 4chan and make up the backwater of America (or Canada, Australia, England, or wherever else you come from). Learn to feel shame you unenlightened asshole.
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>>144399217

No.

Nationalism? Sure.
Traditionalism? Okay too.

>Fascism
>AnCap against personal freedom

You're not the only one with a helicopter.
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>>144399217
>Anyone else make the jump?
I'm much more open to the concept and no longer opposed to people choosing it for themselves.
I mean, I consider myself a Libertarian, but I run my life like a Fascist, and it works so...
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>>144411224
How on God's green earth can America be fixed without a HARD right wing swing to abolish women's suffrage and return the voting blocks to the family unit instead of socially separated individuals.
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>>144399217
Why the fuck would I as a Libertarian, move to Fascism and White Nationalism?
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>>144399217
Aye. Started as libtard thinking people should have the freedom to do as they will. Realised later people not only do not act in their own interest, but also counter to them, and those around them.
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>>144410832
>This is all worthless platitude, you don;t tell me HOW you prevent welfare from being dysgenic
Do Hiter eugenics policies maybe??? If Hitler was so eugenic why did he give homeless people cheap and easy access to hot meals and helped kids from the lower class move into universities???

Like I said before capitalism is shit eugenics, you get Jews out of that
Proper eugenics give you a White Man

>you tell me you'll be more nationalistic than the USSR, which was already nationalistic,

Nope still pretty cuck, Stalin just made it a bit more nationalistic and made it slightly more rightwing, USSR was still pretty damm bad and ruled by Jews after and before Stalin

>You're conflating economic growth with "come up with new inventions" ("especially when added with some nationalism
>" what the fuck does that even mean?).
We pay you money to research new technology to improve our farmers crops and we've made sure your well educated and went to a good university
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>>144411724
>Why the fuck would I as a Libertarian, move to Fascism and White Nationalism?
Because when blacks do Anarchy it looks like Somalia.
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>>144411858

What does anarchy have to do with it? Im not an Anarchist.
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>>144411224
Cringe.
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>>144411724
Because being a lolbert is useless drivel akin to being a radical centrist that cant get his hands dirty and everyone walks all over him while his country turns brown.
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>>144409786
It also goes against human nature. Sure we're not a collectivist insectoid species unless you count the chinks as the same as whites, but we're not totally individualistic. We're quite similar to dogs actually. A dog can survive by itself, a dog has its own plans, ideas, etc. which pop in and out of its brain. It is still in a dog's nature to live in a pack. They need that social structure. As a system, it puts the strongest and most intelligent dogs in charge, and the others fall in line behind him. We're similar but far more complicated obviously.

The ironic thing about libertarianism is that it ends up with the same result National Socialism is going for in some ways. Humanity cannot handle total freedom in my opinion, or if we can, other aspects of human nature which are promoted by that total freedom eventually interfere, like the example in my post. You're free to do what you want, but which option makes sense is still determined by your economic interests in most cases. If someone else controls your economic destiny then you have no real freedom. Essentially, the "free market" accomplishes what the nazis wanted: tries to steer people into useful professions and keep them there. The only difference is in our economy there are far more useless jobs still being rewarded due to degeneracy or stupidity (sorry...the free market!) than in Nazi Germany.

I could easily fall into the wolf pack so to speak. I could go along with authority if I found it aligned with what I want and think is proper and just. The terrifying thought is when the authority's idea of proper and just deviates from your concept of it, and suddenly you realize you're at odds with the group in power. You cannot do what you want to do because what you want to do has been deemed unwanted and degenerate. Many here wouldn't have sympathy that a faggot cannot be a faggot anymore, but lets say they outlaw vidya games. Half this forum would shit a brick.
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>>144412063
The issue stems from whether you believe your group will A) Maintain power, and B) Your ideals are both universal and just.
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>>144399217
For me it;s been a weird ride. Not sure if this coincides with others.

Paleo-Conservative Youth => College Libertarian => Anti-Globalist Anarchist => Anarcho-Syndicalist => Jaded Individualist Anarchist => Blue-Pilled "Put me back in the Matrix" Normie => Angry White Gadsen Libertarian Gun Owner => Trump Republican => Post-Trump LRG Christian Traditionalist

I would say the biggest issue I have is reconciling Natsoc economics and statism (death to individual liberty) with AnCap extreme territorial atomism (death to cohesive social order) - closest I have found is Hoppe, but then you have to slog through his philosophical justifications. Basically, I value the 14 without the 88.

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Close second, on questions of faith between neo-pagans and Christians in the political sphere: I believe Christianity teaches patience with regard to pagans, and both are part of the white tradition: Christianity ceased to be a Semitic religion the moment the first Roman was converted and merged it with the cult of Sol Invictus in the Roman Legion camps.

I also believe Jews specifically broke their covenant with God and He gave them one final chance to renew their covenant, but they rejected Jesus Christ and paid the price (Malachi 4:1).

Islam is simply not an Abrahamic religion. The actions described in the hadith Abu Dawud vol.2:2150 and elsewhere literally command Muslims to violate 4 out of the 10 Commandments by murdering captives, stealing their possessions, committing adultery and coveting their neighbors wives and servants. When the Archangel Gabriel supposed visited Mohammed, he wrote that he was physically assaulted and forced to recite a scroll, then wanted to kill himself because he thought he was being possessed by a demon - no account of a visitation has ever transpired like that elsewhere; ergo, it was a demonic visitation, not a holy one. Mohammed was possessed by Satan, and Islam is a Satanic religion.

Pic related, me in 2008.
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>>144412063
I kinda have the same fear desu. The idea that the authority figure we put in power would go full totalitarian. You don't really care that they're taking away certain rights until it affects you directly. I'm pretty sure Nazi Germany at least had gun rights to mitigate that threat, though.
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>>144411679
> return the voting blocks to the family unit instead of socially separated individuals

Do you really want to give that kind of political power to baby boomer and generation x parents, let alone millennial parents?
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>>144412231
The libertarian system also supposes that all people will act in their best interests. Racially speaking the entire ideology is a complete mess. Really throws a wrench into things when you have a large demographic of people who are unworthy of total freedom and are obviously incapable of making the proper/responsible decisions needed for the economic system to function in a healthy manner. Also doesn't take into account people acting intentionally against their own economic self interests in order to win some social justice contest and get the most good goy points.
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>Age 14-18: Militant atheist liberal globalist
>Age 19-27: Agnostic libertarian centrist
>Age 28-29 (now): Culturally christian conservative nationalist

Been browsing 4chan for 10 years, it turned me onto libertarianism (Ron Paul) and now nationalism and traditionalism. At first I thought it was all satire and trolling but at last I truly see.
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>>144405564
What does right-wing fascism look like?

My primary concerns are what happens to Y group when X group is in favour, like what's happening with whites in the west. Insofar as everyone is left to their own devices to benefit from the fruits of their labour as well as to suffer the costs of their failures, I am a libertarian. I do, however, see the point of a government that is an enforcer of contracts and defender of property rights, and to that end I believe a military and police force are necessary. I am not in favour of giving government the power over haves and have-nots, because more often than not, those professed to be aided are left to detriment. See: U.S. welfare state, time spent on the public dole, and public costs.

Derrrrposting and assuming I'm a child-sexslaver ancap only makes you look like an idiot.
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>>144399217
I went from libertarian to paleoconservative, libertarians have been completely destroyed by leftists and weedfags, and I won't fall into the prisoner's dilemma of being an individualist against a series of collectives
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>>144412497
islam is the only Abrahamic religion whose followers still have any virility left
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>>144411806
>Do Hitler eugenics policies
Degenerate, my dude, literal breeding camps and support for single mothers, profoundly disgusting. You know who else offers charity to those who need it? The Church, and does so in an entirely voluntary fashion, and puts more effort into making sure the people that receive charity deserve it, both things a bureaucracy can't do.
>Nope still pretty cuck, Stalin just made it a bit more nationalistic and made it slightly more rightwing, USSR was still pretty damm bad and ruled by Jews after and before Stalin
Okay, be specific, what are the practical differences between your special brand and Stalin's.
>We pay you money to research new technology to improve our farmers crops and we've made sure your well educated and went to a good university
Educated in Lysenkoism, no doubt. So educated by the state, to work for the state, for communal state owned farms and industries which are managed and created by the state. Do you not see a potential problem with the only entity in the country being one massive monopoly which also has ownership over the police force and military?
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>>144412627
I want to give that power to white men, who vote in favor of their families instead of aborting third trimester pregnancies.
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>>144412497
Do you lack any foundation in your life what so ever?
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>>144412063
Lolberts are socially progressive at their core. They would not be against trannies and homosexuals. They aren't now. Why would they ever become a power to enforce anything but more equality? Essentially they walk the path of a communist.
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>>144405656
Did a quick google, all that came up was a page for esoteric nazism.
I suppose the primary distinction would be something like "the government is there to enforce contracts, I am here to provide for my family." Social safety nets are familial and religious institutions, and provide adequately for the have-nots in our communities. Codifying welfare into law stratifies societies into classes of payers and payees, including the classes of government bureaucrats administering benefits and collecting pensions.
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>>144412499
Yeah, and who knows what would have happened over the course of a thousand year reich. Hitler himself knew it would be a cycle and it would degenerate and fall some day, which is a striking show of realism and understanding of mankind as opposed to communist leaders.

I think of the strong leader in the context of Bismarck. Otto was so completely trusted as Chancellor that he had total authority on behalf of the royalty. Sure, he wasn't quite on the dictatorial level, but the man was behind everything Germany accomplished from 1871 to 1890. He shaped them from disassociated states into a world power. When he was forced out of power by Wilhelm II (so Germany could earn her "place in the sun" i.e. Wilhelm was a fucking idiot and fucked up the planet) the Germans didn't know what to do. One man had set policy and orchestrated moving parts on pretty much everything since the nation was created, and his retirement left them directionless and in the hands of inferior leadership. That leadership set Germany directly on a path to WW1 and the rest of history.

Typically in human history true greatness comes from somehow having the correct individual in total control/power for an extended period of time. Who is to say whether or not Hitler dying in the 50s or 60s would have led to Göring or Göbbles or Himmler or Bormann or Hess (assuming no plane ride) or Heydrich or Speer or anyone else squabbling for power or altering the face of Nazism, deviating from the trusted approach of Hitler.

My distrust for this is what keeps me towards the "libertarian" side. Still, if push comes to shove and I'm forced to either the far right or far left as America seems to be headed, I think I'd take NatSoc "collectivism" (which is a dishonest representation of Nazism) over Communism 100% of the time.
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>>144413551
Not really, paleoconservative type libertarians/ancaps just think that rounding up degenerates is unnecessary when you can just exercise your natural rights to refuse to ever associate with them/ever allowe them on your property whatsoever, and not be forced to subsidize their disgusting lifestyles through taxes.
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>>144404007
Become hitler
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>>144413551
That's also one of my biggest problems with them. I understand the "to each his own!" idea but I have my limits. Some libertarians would be ok with walking down the street and two men are sucking each other off.

>WELL, TO EACH HIS OWN! HAH! AT LEAST I DONT HAVE TO BE A FAGGOT!

Sure there are laws against that, but laws are a representation of authority and order. Laws get in the way of pure freedom. They'd like to see those pesky "no dick sucking on street corners" laws dissolved.
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>>144406551
>opposes the creative man
If the creative man's idea is to force taxation and a massive state onto us, then yes, I find myself in opposition to this man of bad ideas.
>renunciation of the soul of man
If I had to define it, the soul of man would look something like "I want to ease the suffering of existence by providing the greatest levels of material comfort and wealth for myself and my children," and libertarian thought encourages each to pursue those ends unmolested by a large and snooping government. If you're going to argue a point, argue it yourself.
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>>144413283
>Degenerate, my dude, literal breeding camps and support for single mothers, profoundly disgusting. You know who else offers charity to those who need it? The Church, and does so in an entirely voluntary fashion, and puts more effort into making sure the people that receive charity deserve it, both things a bureaucracy can't do.
I'm not even gonna respond to someone who still pushes this nazi's wanted single mothers meme when that was for soldiers who had died and mothers were kicked out of the workforce and had young children, you have a vast lack of knowledge on Nazi policies and it seems you only believe in cherry picked propaganda, iv'e seen some libertarian cognitive dissonance before but calling Hitlers eugenic policies as degenerate is one of the biggest, I bet you also didn't know the church played a large role in nazi welfare, your have quite literally liberal tier levels of knowledge on Nazism despite being invaded by it

My arguments would just be lost on you, and honestly take too much effort to type out for a response like calling Hitlers eugenics degenerate, I'm not going to argue with someone who dons't even know the topic
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>>144414172
My constant gripe with these threads is everyone has a big picture, but none of it outside of a violent civil war can be placed within the current American System of Government. Even my own solutions flirt with fascism, which boils down to the lolbert writing his own book up above, a leader.
Paleocon/concon differ from lolberts in their ideal social base being a family of a man and a woman. Lolberts find the individual mtf taking hormones to be the social base. These are not compatible. They are political rivals in any area they have influence.
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>>144404828
What a fucking faggot idea, Paddock yourself
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>>144399217
I went from libertarian, to fash, then to ancap. Hoppe is right, physically remove everyone, create private govts, and degeneracy and disorder will be destroyed.
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>>144402971
>hurrr durrr collectivism bad, child porn good.

Holy fuck ancaps and libertarians are the most simple minded faggots.
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>>144399217
The main difference between Ancap and Fascism is thinking that you know better than everyone else and they should have to listen to you. in other words, fascism is for frustrated retards that want their will imposed on others.
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>>144407657
>Jews
>being in favour of a system they cannot game to nepotistic benefit through government intervention
Mutually exclusive and I DEMAND you pick one.
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>>144414596
>tfw too smart to make an argument
LMAO
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebensborn
Once you start forcibly taking money form productive citizens to subsidize unproductive behaviour rather than having people rely on voluntary charity and Church/family networks then I don't particularly to what extent the Church was involved, it will still be dysgenic. The 20th century is not the first instance of the welfare state, take a looks at "The Fate of Empires", it happens over and over again and is never good.
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>>144414758
It isn't though

Nazbol is the highest form of nationalism you can reach, everything for the people, away with degenerate bankers and those who well sell their own countrymen out for their own profits
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>>144414949
>, fascism is for frustrated retards that want their will imposed on others.
and anarchism is for rebellious low iq teenagers
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That pic man
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>>144414738
It's not that they're entirely separate from "lolberts", they're just two different kinds.
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>>144415070
No more (you)'s for you

Membership of that group
8,000, mostly wives and rape victims of ss men moving though towns
wow entire country full of single mother breeding camps wtf hitler
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>>144414738
You could work to slowly shift the overton window of voting politics right by starting with things like tax contributing voters only (white men), or land owning voters only(white men), just to throw out some ideas. Alternatively you always got your violent Paleolibertarian/Minarchist conservativism revolution as backup. I think arguing for legal voluntarism (eg I don't need to hire niggers if I don't want to) is still the easiest way to start.
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>>144415366
Same IQ as fascists. Fascists are just made up of frustrated ancaps that want everyone to have to do their thing. "STOP DOING THINGS THAT I DON'T LIKE: The Ideology" basically.
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any type of government would work once you get rid of the blacks and other undesirables
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>>144415244

Communism does not work and even if it was kept on life support for a long time like in Soviet Russia where it did manage a few impressive things notably in the space and arms race, it can never be as powerful as capitalism.

Capitalism is akin to evolution. Competition is possible due to the freedom that business have in evolving to adapt to the environment. It's not perfect and it needs some guidelines which is why I'm not saying free market, but you can never keep up with the average quality of life of capitalism with communism.
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You don’t have to be a National Socialist, the moniker of “the REAL socialists” is not one any group should desire.
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>>144401777

I completely agree with you. Trips of truth!

>>144405233

I completely agree with you. Individual rights are essential to liberty.
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>>144415572
Lmao, yeah I'm sure the number would've stayed just as small when it wasn't war time, the fact is that Hitler personally supported a camp for THOTs to give birth to avoid social stigma for being THOTs because he just wanted more aryan babies, so eugenic.
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>>144413396
> Do you lack any foundation in your life what so ever?

No, I've always been guided by a strong belief in individual agency, liberty, and logic, and a consistent disdain for statist Marxism and globalism, once aware of it.

The reason I felt drawn to anarchism was because I opposed globalization and the WTO, but my strain of anarchism, even among anti-statist syndicalists, was quickly overwhelmed by people who are little more than Leninists in black hoodies who reduce everything to anti-white race politics.

Even when I drifted from organized religion, I still valued Christian teachings and history - I never rejected that, and that may be what pulled me back and allowed me to view my ideas in a critical light. Events of the past ten years have only accelerated this clarity of perspective.

It's important not simply to know yourself, but to know who your are actually opposing and why, to understand them so that your criticism cannot be dismissed summarily.
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>>144413251

> Abrahamic tradition
> Literally instructs followers to violate the Ten Commandments and break covenant with God in their core scripture

Pick one.
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>>144399217
The only jump ancap should do is from the top of a building
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>>144401995
how can you even try to have such an incorrect post while using a picture of someone who literally de-values the american dollar on a daily basis
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>>144404806
I wanna hate her but she's so fucking hot
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>>144408340
holy shit it's perfect
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>>144399217
libertarianism + diversity = fascism.
Every time.

Live and let live does not work when the ferals start to invade.
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>>144407830
The West's material decadence no doubt has a part to play in this. Technology is a double-edged sword for its ability to make life more comfortable and convenient, but also enable the degeneracy we see today.
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does anyone doubt that pol is a psyop designed to make lonely white dudes into extremists at this point?

leftbook is the analogous e-madrassah on the left side.
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>>144399217
Sorry, not making the jump.
Fashy memes are the best memes though.
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pol needs to take the absolute monarchy red pill
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>>144418969
Hopefully /pol/ is more akin to the House of Wisdom then imams strapping bombs to women.
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>>144399217
you can have an anarcho-fascist society though, as long everyone there signs a contract with the local government to abide by x laws.

why is this so hard to comprehend for authoritarian fags? racial purity and national pride have nothing to do with the amount of bureaucratic government cock suckers there are leeching your income (and in 100 years give it to niggers).
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I support communism for neurotypical whites. The rest can get gassed.
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It was a good read, thanks guys.
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>>144401777
T.56%
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>>144419895
"Anarcho-Fascist" ?!?!?!?!??!?!
You don't even know what Fascism is. Holy fuck normie get off my board
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>>144408601
there will always be wars as long a jews are there to finance it no matter what type of goverments there are
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>>144399217
Starting as an Ancap in the first place shows your retardation.
Fascism is good, but I prefer National Capitalism which keeps my libertarian values.
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Test
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>>144419895
>Anarcho-fascist
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>>144423175
There isn't a national capitalism flag.
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>>144415452
Thanks for this infographic.
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>>144423175
>my libertarian values
aka the values that killed the west
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>>144424109
Whatever they may have permitted, libertarian values never picked your pockets.
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>>144424014
Then use the Gadsden flag, it's closer to it than the Ancap one. Or don't use any meme flags at all.
>>144424109
The values that killed the west are Marxist, not libertarian. Gary Johnson does not represent the average libertarian.
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>>144424109
The fuck? Marxism and apathy killed the west, not libertarianism.
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>>144422556
you are so fucking dumb. anarchy isn't a state of society, its a state of man. an anarchist society will never work because there is no social structure or order, there needs to be an agreed upon system.

think of it like this, since i know you're having a hard time comprehending these things:
1. man buys an island, names it, declares it own country and fascist in form and constitution.
2. everyone who enters said island must SIGN A CONTRACT to VOLUNTARILY ENTER THE ISLAND AND OBEY ITS LAWS.
3. this is now an anarcho-fascist society.

how hard is this for you to comprehend? its literally that simple. there could be anarcho-communist societies and anarcho-transhumanmylittleponyunderwaterbuttgayporn societies as long as eveyone enter the physical, legal boarders of said area they give CONTRACTUAL consent to obey its laws you can attach any name to it.
>pic related is my dream
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>>144399217
No, communism is pretty fucking stupid.
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>>144424793
>>144424486
>>144424333
and who let marxism came to power in the west? libertarianism is nothing but idealistic garbage that cannot survive in the real world both libertanianism and communism ignore human nature and focus excursively on the economically side of things
>apathy killed the west,
apathy was caused by individualism , social liberalism and excessive consumerism
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>>144406738

>ARs
>Glocks
>Fucking PK/PKM

What fucking country?
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Why would anyone be a fucking ancap it sounds like you have work all the time.
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>>144425731
We were doing fine under "classical liberalism for over 200 years. The Third Reich lasted for a decade before it was taken down by outside influences.
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>>144426168
You've got to be worth something. Every system will goad you somehow. Capitalism goads in the open, and the rewards it promises are real.
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>>144424486
Meme flags are cancer.
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>>144426778
I'd rather slack off inna woods.
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>>144404806
Lisa Vannatta

You're welcome, although I think she fries the rice
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>>144426450
>We were doing fine under "classical liberalism for over 200 years
200 years is not really a long time + marxists only got intro power in 1920 and by 1960 they already managed to have a big influance into your country ,
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>>144427891
>200 years is not really a long time
Neither is 12 years.
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>>144427998
i never said nazism is a good system
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>>144399217
unironically yes, C'ville was the ultimate redpill for me, i watched the whole thing play-out in real-time
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Just proves that AnCaps don't have any actual Libertarian beliefs
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>>144399217
If you understand the origin of the state to be an alliance of families for common protection from invasion then it doesn’t seem so contradictory anymore
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Indoctrinated by family and school.Just when I got to my 20s I snapped. /pol/ makes me more and more calmer. I love you all.
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>>144399217
become a jucheist you lulbertarian
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People who believe in freedom and liberty will inevitably get swallowed by those who don't

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-laMdszIBI
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>>144429662
There’s no liberty in a state of nature. Dealing with savages is it’s own thing. Pass just laws inside civilisation.
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>>144404809
t. Janusz Korwin-Mikke
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>>144399217
normie repub (birth - 11th grade) > lolbertarian (11th grad - 2nd year of college) > catholic antimuslim neoreactonary (Breivik massacre -> trump's muslim ban) -> Fascist White Nationalist (now)
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>>144402616
tfw goblins are real

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kAEoCHANYY




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