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So /pol/, what are you doing to defeat the hidden hand of the carbohydrate jew in your lives
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>>145127147
Forgot link

http://www.cell.com/cell-metabolism/fulltext/S1550-4131%2817%2930562-4#.WeA77GhVXhk.reddit
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what am i reading
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>>145127214
That

Fat = bad
Carbs = good

Was a lie that was fed to us. Its actually the other way around. Fat intake also had little to do with cardiovascular illness, contrary to the scaremongering.
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>>145127416
wew thanks
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you're reading a study in correlation without causation...

The positive health effects of eating fatty foods *might* be associated with the reduced fight-or-flight stress response over a lifetime (because fats are comfort food and carbs are quick cheap energy)

Or maybe not. Who knows? Not the authors of this paper, all they could show was correlations without controlling for EVERY other detail.

Not to say this is useless, but....

https://youtu.be/AlH2j6sSFqs?t=2m12s
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>>145127147
no bread?
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>>145127147
This is pretty old news. Get on intermittent fasting and niacin, and you'll drop around 1-4 pounds a week of fat, not water.
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>>145127147
I've been keto for almost 8 years now. I was fat all my life but I turned it around in my early 20s.
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>>145128019

How much niacin do you take? I can't take more than 2 grams or I feel like im on fire.
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>tfw I've been on keto since I were a 15 year old
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>>145127416

Can't you read? It's the other way around

Carbs are bad fats are good

Just a reminder as well that 50k was given to the makers of the original food pyramid to put carbs up at a higher level(bread etc) by big companies
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>>145128794
>Was a lie that was fed to us
learn to read friend
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>2017
>eating carbs
>still eating 3 meals a day

s m h
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>>145128668
500 mg for 5 hours is sufficient. The key is not to eat for 2-3 hours before taking, and 4-5 hours after taking, otherwise it's going to blunt the HGH increase.


https://nutritionreview.org/2013/08/niacin-cholesterol-wars-champion-raise-growth-hormone/

Alternatively, I also did the 5 hour niacin fast, then another 500mg, then another 5 hour fast.
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>Gave up carbs a few months ago
>Couldn't shit for weeks from the lack of fiber
>No disposable energy meant I ended up sleeping all day
>Now just don't eat bread
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>>145128900

I take MK-677 for HGH.
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>>145128891
Less or more?
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>>145127874
Whole wheat/Bran bread > White bread >>> Amerifat sweet fructose-up-the-ass bread

Is what I'd wager is reasonable


>>145128019
I had heard about the detrimental effects of fructose on metabolism, esp. on liver, but this is pretty clearly saying we go it backwards all along and should correct public health education worldwide

Funnily enough, the redpilled elders in my country always thought this new-age dietary advice was bullshit, and continued their old high animal fat, high protein diets.
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>>145128908
Do you not eat any vegetables? The fuck is wrong with you?
Also there are tons of ketone products on the market that help you get over the keto hump when you cut sugar out of your diet.
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>>145127147
eating potatoes, rice and beans impairs healthspan and promotes mortality... ok jude
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How much ricin do you take? I can't take more than 2 grams or I feel like im on candleja-
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>>145129069
so the brits did you a favour back in the days
say thank you
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>>145128975
Nice. Any bad side effects? I've used Letrone by Black Lion Research for IGF -1,but I'm pretty apprehensive of any synthesized supplements of HGH or IGF.
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>>145129069
The article fingers processed sugar as the worst offender.

Starchy foods, especially tempered with fibre will still be around as a cheap source of calories.
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>>145129069
Nobody is getting excessive amounts of carbs per day by eating slices of bread and baked potatoes. Excess carbs come from sweeteners, sugar, HFCS.
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>>145129045
Vegs are carbs bro. But in answer to your question, yeah just not enough.
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>>145127147
I'm a Breatharian (the true Aryans). I have defeated the caloric Jew by surviving on a diet of solely air which I breathe.
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>>145129276
Vegetables are also libids, and some are even proteins.
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>>145127147
>promote mortality
wtf does this mean?
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>>145127147
yes goy do not eat carbs and load up on "good" fats -- being fat (unfit) and lazy (apathetic) is the new sexy
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>>145128908
Do you not have high fibre stuff where you are?

Digestives? Hell eat an apple once in a while nigger.

Also Guavas lead to top tier poops. Try them sometimes.
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>>145129212

Its not HGH, its a secretagogue, it makes your body make more HGH.

I've never gone with black lion or any supplement supplier, I just go right to the chem distributor.

As far as sides go MK-677 is completely fine, just a bit of water retention and hunger. If you can control the hunger, you wont gain fat and you'll be shredded when you piss out the water.

I have a side effect mitigation plan for SARMS like LGD-4033 if you're interested in hearing about it.
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>>145129005
Eat when you're hungry.
Sleep when you're tired.
You fucking moron.

--Zen Koan
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>>145129337
Eating fat isn't making people obese. Not milk fat, not animal fat, not eggs either. The rise of obesity in the developed world along with diabetes coincided with the increase in annual sugar consumption.
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>>145129045
Adding ketones sharpens your mind but making your own IN YOUR BODY is what causes fat loss.
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>>145129337
You do know the body converts excess carbs to fat.

Carbs lead to fatness faster than fats, because fats(and proteins) trigger satiety. Carbs you can just wolf down and not feel full leading to a
greater overall calorie intake you sheep fucker.
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>>145129090

old meme is old
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>>145129534
Correlation does not imply causation you faggot, fat makes people fat.
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>>145129578
excess is the operative word here
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>>145129276
YOU DON'T COUND FIBER
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>>145129621
>fat makes people fat.
t. 1950s "researcher" sponsored by the sugar industry
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>>145129337

High fat low carb dieting is literally the only way I can have a six pack. When your girl is slamming her forehead into my abs come talk to me.
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>drinking the carbonated jew

not even once
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>>145129337

Fat is produced by consumption of excess calories, it's not literally just the fat from the foods you ate.
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>>145129417
Fuck apples, Jerry.

Eat broccoli.
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>>145129621
Excess energy intake makes people fat. Input > Output

Carbs being less energy dense than fats but weaker triggers of satiety leads to overeating, leading to greater energy intake then if yo had eaten fat., and excess energy is stored as "new" fat generated by the body itself.
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>>145127147
Trying to give up Pizza, beer, and Mountain Jew is like trying to convince John Pedosta that God doesn't want him sacrificing children - It's quite the challenge, but we must try.
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>>145129578
Not to mention most foods will have a proportional protein increase to high fat as well, protein also makes you feel more satiated, and your body burns more calories processing protein than any other macro.


Foods with high carbs don't usually have the same high protein value as with fat.
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Carbs make you big.

Whether that's in Muscle or Fat is dependent on what you do with those carbs
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>>145129682
show your flag kike
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>>145129769
Eating carbs spikes blood sugar, and the DOWNSWING is what makes you hungry.

Keeping a steady, low blood sugar level keeps you from ever feeling hungry.

I can not eat for 24 hours just because Iforget to eat.
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>>145129807
1000% this -- kikes want to de-energize the population
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>>145127147
This carbs = bad meme needs to die already.
History shows that those who harness carbs are the master races.
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>>145129463
Ahh, thanks, but I'm try to avoid SARMs.
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So basically, have a ketogenic diet or die early?

Good luck with the hallo breathe and smelly pissy sharkles.
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>>145129807

For me its fucked. I cannot gain any appreciable muscle without getting fat as shit. Every winter I gain 30 lbs and every spring I lose 25.

5lbs of muscle a year isn't bad for SARMS though.
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>2017
>still eating

https://archive.org/details/InediaNonEatingFasting
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Ketogenic diet is for faggots.
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>>145129902
Truth, Glucose remains the cleanest burning form of energy for the human body
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>>145129916

Why's that? They're all so different. Plus there are plenty of "sarms" that are actually just RCs, like Cardarine, its a PPAR agonist, not a SARM.
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>>145129745
Shitposting when you don't have a single leg left to stand on isn't going to make you any less ignorant.

>>145129891
Causing massive fluctuations in your insulin levels isn't normal, and it doesn't give you more energy.
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>>145129866
It also spikes Insulin, which is a heavy handed trigger of "new" fat generation.
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>>145127147
Keto. Literally the master race diet. Lost 67 lbs, feel great, look great.
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>>145129997

Which is why your body loses its shit trying to get rid of it whenever its in your blood, right kike?
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>>145129955
Might be to do with ur carb timing
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>>145127214
Agriculture was a mistake.
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>>145130004
>israel west
wow who would have guessed
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>>145130018

Well if the insulin didn't spike the sugar would kill you.

You can use the insulin spike to make sick gains too.

[spike has two meanings there]
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>>145130038
Started in 2011, lost 50lbs in like 3 months. Everyone at work was jelly and stole my diet. I had my manager's manager's repeating my mantra.
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>>145129276
>current year
>counting fiber
>mfw
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>>145128908
Eat a fucking salad, goober.
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>>145128794
>Can't you read?
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>>145130056
In any physical task one person taking in Glucose will do better than another person doing some faggy keto low carb diet

There's a reason Athletes don't have a steak before and during a race
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>>145130118
I'm not "blaming" insulin.

I'm just saying it seems to me that large intake of carbs would make fat faster than moderate intake of fats.

And with carbs, its easy to just eat eat eat.
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>>145129252
Lol
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>>145130160
keto, the diet people wont shut the fuck up about

which is fair enough because it does seem to work
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all I'm getting from this thread is that if you're a fucking obese NEET loser you should go keto to help yourself lose weight

any fucking average guy should not cut out carbs this is one million percent a jewish trick
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>>145128794
potato nigger strikes again
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>>145130321
When the "average" in many countries is overweight or obese...

The carbonated jew needs to be banned asap. At least you can agree on that.
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>>145130280

Oh I completely agree with you. What I'm saying is that if you're in the gym and actually lifting while the insulin works on your blood sugar, you'll gain more muscle and less fat than otherwise.

Alternate meaning would be "spiking" insulin with a literal syringe as a PED.
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>>145129491
This
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>>145130002
I guess it's just a personal line that I won't cross in regards to certain supplements. Even Black Lion is the maximum level of "unnatural" supplementation for me. Too worried about long term effects surfacing when I'm much older.
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>>145130235
There are thousands of keto athletes. Keto super marathon runners, keto MMA fighters, etc. You're regurgitating nonsense.

>>145130321
Everyone regardless of where their body is at should limit sugar intake to 25g per day max.
Unless its a whole piece of fruit you don't need to eat anything sweet. Sugar is the crystallized Jew.
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>>145130304

Also its fucking delicious. I constantly eat bacon cheese burgers (wrapped in low carb tortillas) and have abs. Its win-win.

I don't drink though.
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>>145128794
Pay attention you fucking mucksavage, he said it was a lie
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>>145130440
And there's plenty of Vegan ones too.

But how many of em are Champions?
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>>145130410
>Alternate meaning would be "spiking" insulin with a literal syringe as a PED.

Ewww.

Fitfags get more degenerate with each passing day.

^Still not advocating to be a fatass tho. take care of yourself peeps.
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>>145129491
this

I eat on average 1 time per day, I eat when I'm hungry. I'm neither overweight nor underweight. I am of optimal weight.

I don't understand all amerifats who can't grasp such a simple concept. Maybe stop putting sugar into everything, you're even putting sugar in your bread for fucks sake.
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>>145130392
>ban food items
holy fuck how about instead of perpetuating and expanding the nanny state you just teach some god damn self control and promote a return to traditional values instead of hedonistic decadence

good christ this fucking kikery
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>>145128794
>Can't you read?
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>>145130514
>100 cal
>2g carbs
>5% alcohol

Enjoy. Or just drink whiskey.
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For the general populus of sedentary plebs who aren't athletes or bodybuilders I think less carbs would be a better thing
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>>145129336
make you more likely to die in a given time span
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>>145128891
I eat 5 meals a day. Then again I'm training pretty aggressively. People need to eat at least 4 heavy protein meals a day though.
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>>145130440
>limit sugar intake to 25g per day max.

1 gram per hour. Anything more irritates your blood vessels.
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>>145129553
he said the ketones were to help you get over the hump, as in the tiredness that comes with not having your usual sugary energy source
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>>145130392

Fuck banning it. Living in a sea of dead eyed, cream puff man-children makes people like me stick out all the more.

Fuck is my jew nose showing?
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>>145130551
Tell me ONE. FUCKING. PRO. to soda.

At least alcohol gets you buzzed and smoking makes you look cool.

Name ONE for soda.
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>>145130546
try doing some actual work instead of sitting around waiting for your countries eventual demise and maybe you might feel like eating more then once per day you fucking ahmedgurgling svennigger
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>tfw the energy boost from the whole avocado and sardines on parmesan crackers you had for lunch is coursing through you
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>>145130437
Are you fucking kidding me? You trust "black lion" to not put prohormones and methylated steroids (which RUIN your liver) in your oral supps?

Why not go straight to the same place that academia buys it from? They won't put up with that kind of fuckery and you know exactly what compounds you're on.
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>>145130729
>implying things need to have proven benefits in order to remain legal
fucking kill yourself
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>>145130789
oh wow, did i step on someones fat toe?
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>>145130615
I prefer gin. Dingle is my shit lately. Irish spiced gin...
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>>145129621
I think he means that if you have a load of sugar or another simple carbohydrate in front of you it's really easy to stuff a thousand calories down your throat without even thinking about it.
You know what it's like, you've consumed your recommended daily intake all at once in sweet-n-salty popcorn (or something similar) before
Don't lie, everyone has
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Keto is created by ((them)) to kill us all. More seriously, it destroys your kidneys because you are forced to make up lost carb calories with tons of protein.
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>>145130900
Go give a sheep a rimjob and get your carbs fix then Australian Intellectual Property infringement nigger..
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Constantly eating carbs keeps your insulin high. Insulin is a growth hormone that tells your body to store fat.
We should be eating a lot less carbs and sugar but not entirely eliminating the carbs.

t. biochemist.
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>>145130437
Supplement with deer antler velvet. All natural and increases igf1
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>>145128608
What does an example keto diet look like for the day.
I imagine it's bacon grease in the morning, a bucket of lard for lunch, two spinach leaves for a snack and then steak for dinner with an oil smoothie
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Everything is bad, FAGGOTS.
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>>145127416
Yeah, we’ve all listened to joe Rogan too, genius
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>>145131172

Eggs and cheese for breakfast.

Turkey and avocado for lunch.

Steak and onions for dinner.
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>>145131237
Everything has good and bad. Figure out the ratios and act accordingly.
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>>145129463

wew pricey
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>>145127147
I eat when Im hungry and eat what is available. Due to finances and not being a big eater, I basically live off oatmeal, eggs, carrots, potatoes, milk, cheese bread and yogurt.
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>>145127147
Carbs are fine. Not resistance training is the main cause of bad health and inability to use carbs efficiently. If you're a fatty keto is sometimes a good way to lose it, but if you're not carbs aren't going to hurt your health or make you fat if you train your muscles like any health minded person should be.
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>falling for the carbohydrates jew
Cholesterol has been blamed wrongly blamed for long
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>>145131172
Pretty much any meat, eggs, greens, zucchini, tomatoes, mushrooms, garlic, onions, mustard, vinegar, olive oil, peppers, radish, eggplant, peanuts, pecans, pine nuts, macadamia nuts, butter.

It really isn't hard to eat keto.
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>>145131660
Agreed Poo-bro.

As I mentioned >>145129040 older people in our part of the world always called bullshit on this.

They always said Desi Ghee (Animal fat) is good for you.

But we fell for the ((AMA)) lies.

Also desis get the worst fatbods. All belly fat with skinny arms and legs. At least Euros get the fat-all-over Pillsbury doughboy look, which is cute in a way.
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>>145131285
I thought dairy was a no-go due to lactose being a sugar
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>>145131112
oh NOW the biochemistry professor wants to tell me how not to get fat
When I was in lectures all he wanted to do was bore us all to death with alpha-ketoglutarate
And ornithine. I don't even remember what ornithine was supposed to do but I remember its name.
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>>145131974
Read the fucking nutrition label and check for sugar. You replace milk (lots of sugar) with heavy whipping cream, low fat cottage cheese with full fat, etc. It seems daunting at first but it's incredibly easy with time.
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>>145127147
Complex carbs are alright.

The true redpill of diets; Calorie Restriction.
If you eat more than 1,500 calories/day you're gonna die earlier no matter how good you think your diet is.

I average 1.2kcals while working out every day.
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Wtf just 1 month ago pol told me that oat was redpilled food and I bought 10kg of it wtf am I to do with it now?
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>>145132259
>You replace milk (lots of sugar)
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>>145131337

I'm actually paying less than if I bought from the capsule dealers.

1 months supply of clomid is $25, enclomid is $30, LGD is only $40/month, MK-677 is $60.
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>>145131974

Lactose ain't so bad. The glycemic index is high enough that I can drink a few glasses a day and not drop out of ketosis. I use the ketosticks to be sure.
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>>145132763
**low enough
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>>145132608
Eat it like a non autist because you probably don't have the lifestyle to live ketogenicly healthily.
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>>145132259
>milk
>lots of sugar
>flag

who is surprised ?
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>>145129312
>breatharian
I almost forgot about that faggotry
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>falling for the carbohydrates jew
Cholesterol has been blamed wrongly blamed for long
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>>145129491
Fuck you guys if I wait to be hungry I eat like shit. Especially since cooking the good healthy shit takes time. I can only eat so many salads or eggs with vegetables. I need a plan of some kind so food can be prepared.
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>>145132654
>>145132926
I don't know what it's like in Poland, but here is the nonfat "skim" milk they push on us as if it will help us lose weight.
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>>145133675
Bro you should do meal prep. You only wash the frying pan once and you make like a week of dinners and lunches.
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If you think that:

>carbs are bad
>fats are bad
>sugar is bad

You demonstrate that you don't understand nutrition at all. EVERYTHING is contextual. NOTHING is universally unhealthy
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>>145134133
True. A serving of ice cream is healthy if all you ate that day is kale and rabbit meat, but its the worst thing you could have if you've been eating burgers and ribs.
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>>145132654
>>145132926
>>145133943
Whole milk, not much better
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I remember the 90s. All diets are bullshit. Lift some fucking heavy things and run
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How much soda do you drink a week /pol/? i do 3 liters.
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>>145128794
This post shows us quite literally the exact moment your primitive brain was triggered into feverently mashing your thumbs against your phone screen
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>>145134711
1.5 liters coke a day lol
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>>145128794
>italian education
Lmao
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>>145134711
>>145136520
>European countries making hedonistic short term decisions




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