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Jesus created us 2018 years ago
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In 200 years they will laugh that we thought evolution was real in 2018. It will be on par with flat Earth and Earth is center of Universe.
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>>189125599

Hovind really is awesome when it comes to understanding the christian approach. This link is a short 3 minute clip or so where he completely manages to destroy some atheist professor by mere reason and logic alone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVzeojdXbpQ
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>>189126187
>This atheist totally got destroyed
Lets take a look
>The Bible solves this issue of time, space, and matter because it's had 3 things like the trinity
0/10, analogies =/= proof
>and God created all of this
How could anyone know that?
>He's above time, space, and matter. He's unaffected by it
More assertions without proof. Fun.
>"So Dan the concept of a spiritual force cannot have any effect on a material body"
oooo it looks like he's about to answer this question
>"Well then I guess you'd have to explain to me things like....."
Oh, dodging the question with an irrelevant point. Color me surprised.
>I mean if your brain is just a random collection of chemicals that formed by chance over time
He's at least got the generic points down. Good so far.
>How on earth can you trust your own reasoning process?
The same way you can, unless you want to state we live in different realities.If you followed this logic, how could you possibly trust your own and come to a conclusion about God? All of these things he's stated in regards to his stance is called an assertion. Not a single shred of evidence. He appeals to word salad preaching and emotion, nothing of substance was said here. But also that douchey colonel sanders atheist guy really needs to get laid, there is nothing worse than listening to some tubby idiot ramble.
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>>189127898

Space time and matter HAD to come into existence all at once. Deductive reasoning therefore lets us know that the cause of it is beyond space, matter and time. It is non-local, it is immaterial and it is timeless, or eternal. Those are the exact same characteristics we could attribute to an omniponent creator.

It's just that you are trying to explain the existence of the computer from within, without considering "man", whois above and beyond the computer.

The truth is, that you are just some retarded NPC who's programming literally restricts your thinking to the realm of matter. I don't hold it against you... jesus said it himself; those who have ears but do not hear, those who have eyes but do not see. He was literally talking about you: the eternal NPC.
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>>189125599
Thank you.

To be safe for all eternity:
A: Admit that you are a sinner, who violates the Will of God, and that you need a Saviour.
B: Believe that Jesus Christ, Son of God & Messiah, died for you sins and rose again, as prophesied and recorded in the Word of God.
C: Call on His name, ask Him to save you, and confess that He is Lord.

Some resources that may help:
TTB.org has a verse by verse Bible Study for download or daily listening.
Chuck Missler’s Learn the Bible in 24 Hours (https://youtu.be/PZ3hESj__M8)
Robert Breaker’s Bible Study and Topical Sermons (https://youtu.be/H124iZiyGUs)
J.D. Farag’s Bible Study and Prophecy Updates ( https://youtu.be/UK4b6tGThI4 )

Clearlywrittendotnet YouTube channel details near future events. (https://youtu.be/zRrkUymeST4)

BlueLetterBible.org has a free online bible & apps with cross references.

OneForIsrael.org is a group of Israeli Jews who know Jesus is their messiah.

Unsealed.org tracks information that points to Jesus’s soon return.

Watchfortheday.org shows how many world events are prophetically and numerically linked.

The End is nigh. Tomorrow may be too late.
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>>189125599
God will be disappointed you didn't appreciate His creation of Evolution.
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>>189125599
good man
good seminars
worth a watch, even for the fedoras shitposting on this thread
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>>189129179
>Space time and matter HAD to come into existence all at once
Therefore God? This is an assertion, no matter how you explain it. You've attributed things to a God without evidence.
>Those are the exact same characteristics we could attribute to an omniponent creator.
"could" is an honest word here, i'm glad you admit that. Because we could attribute it to anything else we can't verify exists.
>The truth is, that you are just some retarded NPC who's programming literally restricts your thinking to the realm of matter.
That's the truth? Oh boy, you've been sold something and will shield it at any cost, wont you?
>jesus said it himself; those who have ears but do not hear, those who have eyes but do not see
How do you know he's not talking about you? Oh, you're just going to interpret it the way you'd like? Im so surprised.
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>>189129726
>worth a watch, even for the fedoras shitposting on this thread
How about we discuss your criticisms in regards to evolution?
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>>189129905
Things you don't like arent always atheism, I wouldn't doubt there's people who believe in your God in this picture.
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>>189129905
Thats cult of ishtar, not atheism.
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>>189125599
Superior beings cannot come from inferior beings.
There, done in one sentence.
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>>189129757
>Therefore God?
yes because your theory can't explain it
>could
because it is a religion, stop pretending evolution is not
>you've been sold something and will shield it at any cost
like you are doing NPC? you are protecting your evolution.rlgn just as hard
>jesus said it himself; those who have ears but do not hear, those who have eyes but do not see
talking about you too son, find Jesus, stop shitposting, God bless
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We know that evolution is just a mind fuck. Just we don’t have an explanation to replace it.
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>>189125935
But...the earth is the center of the universe.
Keep up.
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>>189130252
>yes because your theory can't explain it
What theory? Because I don't have the answer, you think you get to blindly assert something you don't even know exists is the case for everything?
>because it is a religion, stop pretending evolution is not
Evolution is a fact, if you want to discuss why evolution is false i'll hear you out.
>like you are doing NPC? you are protecting your evolution.rlgn just as hard
evolution has no ties to atheism, if evolution was overturned tomorrow it wouldn't affect my position on a God. I don't blindly follow something without evidence, sorry. You attempting to blur assertions with facts is hilariously stupid.
>talking about you too son, find Jesus, stop shitposting, God bless
Having a discussion is shitposting? Snowflakes need to go back to rebbit, you're apparently very lost.
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>>189129757

Yes, therefore God. Your very definition of "evidence" relies on the presupposition that it MUST be explainible from INSIDE the system by naturalistic means, therefore you are intentionally eliminating the thing you're discounting on an a priori basis.

I'm not joking... you are PROGRAMMED to think in materialistic terms ONLY and you are therefore UNABLE to PROCESS spiritual concepts. Your ONLY defence MECHANISM is to BREAK DOWN arguments into tiny tidbits so you can escape the inavitable conclusion.

The works of God can be seen ALL over the place. From the mathematical blueprints of the universe (single verse) to the observations of the electron to the informational grid that underlines all of existence. Systems within systems within systems, all being more then just the sum total of their parts because of their emergent properties.
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>>189125599
Reminder that Evolution is THE AntiChrist.
>>Denies ALL that is worshipped or called God.
>>God sent them strong delusion So they should believe A LIE.
A LIE /pol/ A LIE!! Says plain right there that the Anti-Christ is "A LIE" . What a simple way to describe Evolution, which ppl worship as their creator. Therefore it takes the place of God showing itself that it is God. But, Does it kill Christians? What is the only way to kill a Christian? Take away their faith. That it does. Bros we are living in the days of the great "Falling Away" and the man of lawlessness is being revealed. Repent and be saved.
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2/2
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Atheists are liberal and vote democrat.
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>>189131601
They received not the love of the truth that they might be saved.
>>anybody still LOVE TRUTH out there? I do.
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>>189125599
Why does he look like he has AIDS?
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>>189131668
Not this atheist.
I side mostly with the right.
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>>189125599
wait hold up

have we really never seen a star form?
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>>189125599
IF EVOLUTION DOES NOT EXIST THEN RACE REALISM DOESNT EXIST STFU
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Christians are fucking backwards retards, this is why the left hates you guys
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>>189132002
We just call the "people groups". There is only the human race.
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>>189131173
>God
>inside the system

God is everything that isn't everything. This is like day 1 metaphysics, you FNORDnigger
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>>189131173
>Yes, therefore God
Based on what?
>Your very definition of "evidence" relies on the presupposition that it MUST be explainible from INSIDE the system by naturalistic means
No, I've never made any claim stating it has to be explainable, and i've never said God doesn't exist. You implying these things is silly as fuck.
>I'm not joking
I bet you aren't. lmfao
>you are PROGRAMMED
Prove it, please. Instead of pushing all of these blind assertions without a shred of evidence, give me something viable here. I get you're upset at the position of "i have no evidence to suggest this thing exists, because there isn't evidence for this thing existing" but until we get to that point, i'm not going to blindly assert it does. You don't believe in everything people assert is true, i'm just doing that with something you decided to have faith in.
>Your ONLY defence MECHANISM is to BREAK DOWN arguments into tiny tidbits so you can escape the inavitable conclusion.
It's called being reasonable. Feel free to change my mind about a God, i'm still waiting on a single bit of evidence or even a coherent argument.
>*I THINK* The works of God can be seen ALL over the place
FTFY
>From the mathematical blueprints of the universe to the observations of the electron to the informational grid that underlines all of existence
Why do you assume this is from a God?

All of these assertions, and no evidence to suggest your claim is correct. You keep tying these things into something you can't even verify exists. Then you're upset when you get called out on this incredibly ridiculous string of nonsense. It's utter stupidity; all you've done is state things equivalent to feelings. Nobody cares about how you feel. If you want to talk about your period cycle, go tell someone who cares.
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>>189132002
nice troll faggot
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how about instead of spending all this time and energy debating magic sky man, you actually learn science, math, and economics

maybe you could make the world a better place
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>>189132325
>instead of trying to figure out whats outside the system, stay inside the system goy
>help us run the economy goy
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Un-ironically being a right wing christian when Jesus was a Jew that taught communism principles and international brotherhood.
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>>189132375
>instead of trying to figure out whats outside the system, stay inside the system goy
This actually poses a good point. How do you figure whats "outside the system"?
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>>189132375
hey man all I'm saying is conservatives know the Bible like an encyclopedia, meanwhile liberals are actually out there making a difference in the world

who is there with their nose in the grindstone, learning robotics, learning mathematics, learning cell oxidation ratios. And who is spending their time studying philosophical nonsense that has no meaning or relevance to making an impact on the world
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>>189132555
Synchronicity, nigger
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>>189132227
Dynamic decay theory for starters. The math does not support Evolutionary timelines.
http://www.icr.org/article/earths-magnetic-field-young/
Do you believe in math?
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>>189132641
>Synchronicity
>the simultaneous occurrence of events that appear significantly related but have no discernible causal connection.
>"but have no discernible causal connection."
Or did you have a different definition?
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>>189132325
Science and math support Creation not evolution.
>>The globalist Satanists bought out the scientific community first. That's how they've been able to subvert everything else.
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>>189132227

I literally just told you that i CANT provide you your evidence because of the very nature of God and the inherent nature of what you would call "evidence". There is NO definitive naturalistic evidence because God transcends nature itself.

However, there are plenty of scientific indications (not evidence) pointing to an intelligent creator. The conclusion can ONLY be drawn with reason and by logic, for those are the only things that DO transcend matter... in the image of... etc.

It just boggles the mind how this stuff simply doesnt register with folks such as you.

If you're really interested, start with link related and go from there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYSmV2FlHDw
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wow OP guess all the races are the same under god now i can finally open my borders
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>>189132953
shut the fuck up faggot

czechem
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>>189132957
you know what science and math also allow you to do?

actually make a difference in the world

while you're spending all your time ranting and raving about sky daddy, you could be learning real things instead
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Palaeontologist here.
Just lurking to watch this shit show unfold.
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>>189133114

You're script is stuck bro.
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>>189133048
No one is saying that. America must rremain safe and strong so we can spread Christianity to the rest of the world. Peace through strength.
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>>189132973
Every great book needs a hero and a villain. If God was real he would have slayed satan in the beginning. But to acquire followers you need to keep the story going. Which is why Satan is planned to be killed at the end of the book ( our timeline ) than the beginning.
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>>189125599
I’m such a huge fan of Kent hovind. I don’t agree with everything he says but he really taught me a lot about logic and “forbidden” science.

If you niggers like Kent hovind be sure to check out Randall Carlson on JRE (I know)
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>>189132655
>do you believe in math
Yes? What does that have to do with the creationist link you posted? I'm confused. Also, i'm confused why you think this would disprove evolution. I'm not sure you know what evolution is.
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>>189125935
Earth is obviously not flat but it is the center of the universe. No evidence exists to dispute this.
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>go from one thread defending Christian beliefs
>come to another to laugh at Christian beliefs

What have i become /pol/?
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>>189132973
>There is NO definitive naturalistic evidence because God transcends nature itself.
How many assertions are you going to put out here without evidence? Do you know anything you're saying here, or are you just talking out of your ass? I don't care what you think, I want you to back up your assertions with something coherent.
>However, there are plenty of scientific indications (not evidence) pointing to an intelligent creator
Great, lets hear it.
>points to a youtube video
No, you're here for the discussion making assertions. You either discuss it, or go back to lurking. If I wanted to watch this youtube video again I would ignore this interaction and go watch it. You want to claim God exists? You get to provide evidence for him. Otherwise, you're just here saying nonsense.
>The conclusion can ONLY be drawn with reason and by logic
You have yet to bring any to the fucking table. Your inability to provide ANYTHING to your assertions is proof you have nothing. Lets get to the fucking conclusion here, bud. I'm not going to sit here and watch you dodge and throw assertions around until the thread dies.
>It just boggles the mind how this stuff simply doesnt register with folks such as you.
It's so beyond baffling to hear that, after everything you've said (or not said) here. You should be saying this in a mirror, I'm blown away at the utter stupidity you've shown here.
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>>189133073
>ask how to figure out whats outside the system to come to a coherent conclusion
>states a single word
>give the definition of that word to start, then ask you to clarify
>"shut the fuck up faggot"
1. That's not really clarifying your nonsensical point, and 2. No, please make me with a good point.
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/pol/ is not a religious board. please go to here for religious discussion:

>>>/x/

always type "sage" into the options field when replying to religion/anti-religion threads on /pol/ so it does not bump them
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Anons, clue me in; why can't evolution have been set forward by god?

What is wrong with orthogenesis, nomogenesis, emergent evolution and creative evolution?
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>>189134107
Religion pushes a lot of agendas in politics. You live in the US, you should know this.
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>>189133114
What kind of difference? Nuclear Fission, DNA sequences, physics, geo-engineering, hospitals and medicine?
>>The inventor of the MRI machine was a Christian.
There have been/and still are MANY Christian scientists who have contributed greatly. http://www.icr.org/article/christianity-cause-modern-science/
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>>189129242
I want i emphasis specifically A:
>you are a sinner, who violates the Will of God

This is what you are. You are LESS than the perfection which created imperfection. Yeah u don’t NEED a savior, unless you want to be saved.

If you want to be saved, christ is the only sufficient sacrifice, and lucky you! You can accept this sacrifice posthumously

To rewind and summarize a bit: god made dudes and dudes sucked. God realized his will would not abide dudes for eternity, but dudes happened to have spirit. So he took mercy.
Knowing his own rules were impossible for normal dudes, he imbibed himself in a dude to fulfill all the rules.

This dude got sacrificed. This was intended to pay for the shitiness of all other dudes, but his original conception of free will prevented unsaved dudes from being,well, saved.

This is why finding Christ is so important. Because of your free will you can not be saved from your sins without recognition and deferration.

Defer your sins unto Christ, and sin less to lessen his burden. That is the mission of a Christian
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>>189133443
If you like astrophysics look at some Jason Lisle YouTube videos. Mind blowing.
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>>189125599
This fucking meme. If evolution is false theory provide better one with actual facts and research
>Muh Bible
No, no, no!
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I used to have no respect for theists until I realise that atheists are destroying the world.
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>>189133887

>How many assertions are you going to put out here without evidence?
>You want to claim God exists? You get to provide evidence for him.

This means absolutely nothing to you, but for me stuff like this is prime evidence that Jesus spoke Truth, capital T. Fools professing themselves to be wise... with ears that do not hear and eyes that do not see. You'll find an excuse to dismiss everything, just like you did with that referral.

It's all so tiresome.
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>>189133472
Maybe read it then. If it's too hard to understand that's ok. Your confusion can disprove the ridiculous assertion that atheists have the whole picture figured out.
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>>189134176
>god made dudes and dudes sucked
God couldn't make his creation not suck? Weird.
>God realized his will would not abide dudes for eternity, but dudes happened to have spirit. So he took mercy.
How forgiving. His creation failed him, and now he's going to torch the people who don't follow him because he didn't make them that way, and knows exactly what they're going to do regardless, so this doesn't matter.
>Knowing his own rules were impossible for normal dudes
Which he should have known earlier when making his creation, considering his alleged all knowing and power.
>he imbibed himself in a dude to fulfill all the rules.
He had to do this silly comedy bit to fix his own mistake?
>This was intended to pay for the shitiness of all other dudes
Because of God, someone had to be sacrificed? Sounds like some satanic nonsense to me.
>but his original conception of free will prevented unsaved dudes from being,well, saved
We could have free will with the knowledge of a God. It would affect nothing. I wonder why he's hiding?
>This is why finding Christ is so important
Oh boy, do I agree.
>Defer your sins unto Christ
The thing he created directly? What a series of failures, Yet you still come to this conclusion that he loves you and you should worship him even though you have no evidence to suggest he is real.
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>>189133496
yup. technically if you want to get really fucky, every point in the universe is the center of the universe as long as you're at that point to observe it.
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>>189134123
Because God is a God of order. Look at the variety and design in nature. Look at how things work together for the earth and mankind's benefit. Those systems didn't begin by millions of years of death and mutations. (((They))) push Evolution so much.....why do you think that is? It fits in perfectly with the rest of Satan's agenda which (((they))) also push. There is a reason Jesus called them out as children of Satan.
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>>189134584
>This means absolutely nothing to you
It means more to me than you, because i'm not going to pretend things exist without some sort of evidence. Do you notice how you keep dodging the question? We get it, you can't just be honest and admit you have nothing but faith. Your assertions have nothing to back them up, you've been duped to believe in a thing you have no reason to believe in it, and you're here trying to explain to people they should be like you. Google cognitive dissonance, you're a textbook example of it.
>You'll find an excuse to dismiss everything, just like you did with that referral.
I've already watched it, apparently a lot of /pol/ watches the same yotube videos. Did you want to discuss something in the video? Or was that your argument that you couldn't argue, and instead tried to push that burden of proof on a youtube video? Must be so tiresome for you to post a youtube video and make wild assertions. Fuck, it sounds so tough to just make word salad and pretend you're right. I'm just too busy trying to be honest and figure out what's actually occurring in reality, maybe i'll take a page out of your book and just pretend things are true.
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>>189134360
The "actual facts" that support muh Bible is the study of the systems in motion in our universe itself. In otherwords, science. Why do you trust evolutionary scientists? The same ones that bought out Education, Agriculture, Medicine, Politicians, Finance world are the SAME ONES pushing the Evolution. Shouldn't that give us all pause? Do you think (((They))) decided to lie to us about everything BUT science?
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>>189134497
See
>>189135005
And yes, they are destroying it.
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>>189135005
>(((They))) push Evolution so much.....why do you think that is?
Because it's a fact.
>It fits in perfectly with the rest of Satan's agenda which (((they))) also push
Like what, exactly? Be specific.
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>>189125599
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BS5vid4GkEY
Reminder this charlatan was debunked by Thunderf00t 10 years ago
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>>189135450
I believe you missunderstood me
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>>189135695
It's not a fact. It takes more faith to believe that then anything else. Do your research. You've been lied to.

Don't know what Satan's agenda is? Wew Lad.
I'll boil it down for you. Its taking everything God meant for good and corrupting it with evil.
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>>189136145
Sorry
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>>189136153
>It's not a fact.
It is, a change over time occurs whether you can grasp the concept or not.
>Don't know what Satan's agenda is? Wew Lad.
I have no reason to believe he exists. Speaking of which, you stated I've been lied to. How do you know you aren't worshipping satan instead of this God? He can't trick you into worshipping him?
>Its taking everything God meant for good and corrupting it with evil.
Then God shouldn't have made a failed creation and evil in the first place.
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bump. Evolutionists are free to believe in their fake gay religion if they want to but they shouldn't shove it down everyone's throats.
Notice how they never tackle the multiple proofs that alot of the fossils are faked and staged but continue in their deluded institutionalized pseudo religion. Go practice your hedonism elsewhere hanuman monkey worshipers.
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>>189137907
>Evolutionists are free to believe in their fake gay religion if they want to but they shouldn't shove it down everyone's throats.
It's a demonstrable fact, and if you want to make a case for it being a religion i'll hear you out.
>Notice how they never tackle the multiple proofs that alot of the fossils are faked and staged but continue in their deluded institutionalized pseudo religion
Why do you think this solely proves evolution? You are beyond unaware of what evolution is. Changes over time occur regardless of how offended you are by it.
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>>189133628
A hypocrite, son.
Evolution is a cop-out for brainlets. We don't even know for certain how all humans came to be from a pair of apes who suddenly had the same chromosome fusion fuck-up that miraculously led to increased intelligence.
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>>189138164
Cro magnon people of 200k years ago are the same as the current Europeans. Genetic changes have been negligible despite drastic development in culture and civilisation.
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>>189138362
>Evolution is a cop-out for brainlets
Does it hurt being that stupid?
>We don't even know for certain how all humans came to be from a pair of apes who suddenly had the same chromosome fusion fuck-up that miraculously led to increased intelligence
>suddenly
No, and like i've stated too many times in this thread, changes over time occur whether you like it or not. Evolution is a fact. If you want to pretend it's wrong, fine. You don't get different facts. Sorry.
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>>189138487
>Genetic changes have been negligible despite drastic development in culture and civilisation
And?
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>>189138581
Changes over time do not occur at the constant rate to explain the theories your world view relies on. They come in waves, in bursts. Have you even heard of the chromosome fusion I mentioned?
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The ocean contains 1.3x10^29 bacteria which are continually reproducing and being infected by 1x10^31 viruses, which kill off 20%-40% of them every single day.

The average single celled organism divides every 20 minutes. This means that a single line of descent will go through the equivalent of 650,000 years of human evolution every single year.

So you have 1.3x10^29 cells, mixing and dividing randomly every 20 minutes. You don't think they will eventually evolve to form complex life? If even just 1 of these organisms gets a beneficial mutation, they quickly conquer the entire ocean
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>>189138761
>Changes over time do not occur at the constant rate to explain the theories your world view relies on.
It doesn't rely on shit, you're too busy not understanding evolution while making uneducated claims on it.
>Have you even heard of the chromosome fusion I mentioned?
What about it? Cut to the chase, i've been here with multiple theists who can't verify their claims, play hide the ball, or pivot and dodge until they leave. Get to your point, wasting this much time on elementary things is getting old.
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Guiz, I take Christianity seriously, I do. But I don't buy it. Why the hell would an omnipotent being communicate with us in a way that would look exactly the same if everyone was just making it up?

Let's say you wanted a mind-controlling illusion. You'd probably set up a /comfy/ uterine building with stained glass and incense and such. You'd probably fill it with warm loving feelz and tell people they'll be horribly tortured forever if they leave the group. And if you're gonna eat a guy it's awfully convenient that the guy has the taste and texture and macros of a cracker.

Knowing that there would be lots of false religions and false revelations and false rites, this seems a pretty risky way for the Deity to talk to us.
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>>189138164
Everyone believes in adaptation. or as some wrongly term it "micro evolution".. Evolutionists twist this and use it as proof of macro evolution.
It is a religion because the majority of those who espouse it simply go along with what the preachers (lecturers/ professors) tell them and go along blindly believing in it regardless of all the obvious info out there that most fosils are faked.
>Fun fact. one of the main things that pushed Darwin to become a "Darwinist" was when his daughter died after a lot of suffering. and so he became disenfranchised by his Chritian religious views and decided to formulate a hypothesis/religous world view that would better suit his perception of the world around him. tldr-"if God doesnt save my daughter, i'll show Him"
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Hovind is da man, he more woke than /pol/
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>>189135005
You've swung too far to the right because of social justice warriors anon. You've gone literally braindead. I am sorry.
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>>189138950
>Evolutionists twist this and use it as proof of macro evolution
People use the evidence of evolution to show evolution is a fact. If you can disprove it, why are you on /pol/? You could be making millions off of publishing these findings in scientific journals.
>most fosils are faked.
I'll wait for the proof.
>It is a religion because the majority of those who espouse it simply go along with what the preachers (lecturers/ professors) tell them and go along blindly believing in it
Willfully ignoring facts would make it sound like a religion, i see how your flawed and biased thinking got you to this point.
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>>189129179
My bad if I'm wrong, but since you replied to someone specifically criticizing the Bible I am going to assume you are a Christian. You make a good argument against Atheistic talking points, and I think many early Christian apologists laid out great arguments for the existence of God. But why should we assume that just because God exists that this somehow validates the claims of Christianity? This is a point of contention that I see, especially considering the very dubious historical claims of the New Testament.
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>>189138891
No they wouldnt. Too many competitors for them to make that transition now. Back in the day where the only life existing was single celled, mutating wouldnt result in you just getting eaten by something that feeds on you
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>>189139359
>You make a good argument against Atheistic talking points
He made 0 points, they're called assertions he couldn't back up with a single shred of evidence. Then he left the thread because he ran out of word salad.
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>>189138919
It is not an elementary level thing. It is how humans came to exist. Research it for yourself, because that is the only way to change your mind.
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>>189138934

You are under the wrath of God, God is sending Jesus back to pour out his wrath on this world. He made it so easy to be saved and most people think its too easy and get damned. The wisdom of this world is foolishness to God. You dont know God and vastly underestimate his understanding of your earthly experience. You can get eternal life right now by believing on Jesus for the forgiveness of sin and eternal life. If thou shalt confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
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>>189139494
I'm explaining that this is how multi-cell organisms originally evolved, it's called probability.

And as for how single celled organisms originally evolved, consider the vast number of molecules mixing and combining in the ocean. We're talking 4.4x10^46 atoms of water on the planet Earth, which are continually mixing and combining randomly over billions of years. Eventually by pure probability you're going to get ribonucleic acids. Which eventually will form cells
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>>189139863
*molecules of water
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>>189139576
>It is not an elementary level thing. It is how humans came to exist.
I'm speaking in regards to the level of thought required to grasp the concept.
>Research it for yourself
I have, i'm the only one of us that has. Your issue with evolution is the inconsistent change over time, and you think that's what disproves evolution. I'm constantly blown away at the theists of /pol/ who come here with arguments for things they very clearly know nothing of, yet they keep saying shit like "learn about it and you'll see" thats literally the problem with the thinking and you'll never admit it. I'm the only one here who says "i don't know" and have seen both sides honestly. You can't even frame what you're arguing against in a coherent manner. It should be embarrassing to you, and the rest of the theists. Does a God shield you from this feeling?
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>>189139955
Tell me then; what is the chance that the following happens:
>two primates both have a similar chromosome fusion in their gametes
>these two mate
>they produce living offspring capable of reproduction
>their children are the ancestors of all human beings
>the new genome provides evolutionary advantages to outcompete their parents' species time after time
>all traits in pic related(previous post) come as one package, no compromise has been found in known primates
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>>189139863
Chemical evolution is akin to magic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1_KEVaCyaA
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>>189140494
The chance percentage is irrelevant.
>the new genome provides evolutionary advantages to outcompete their parents' species time after time
They obtain genes/biological traits from their parents. Define "outcompete"
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>>189140719
The parents and their 46-chrom'd children still lived among other primates. These children had to use incest to preserve their genome. And also compete for resources with their clan of 48-chrom'd primates who likely had stronger muscles and higher resistance against the sun and wounds. Primate wounds do not get infected as easily as ours, because they do not have nearly as much adipose tissue. Human existence from the point where they get our current skin, becomes a high risk as one deep wound would be a potential death sentence without medicine.

Just some points to consider what situation the early humans would've found themselves in, in case of evolution.
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>>189126187
yeah hovind is pretty based
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhVGy_j2_p4&t=
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>>189141254
>Just some points to consider what situation the early humans would've found themselves in, in case of evolution
Yes, mutations and variations occurred and do occur. Whats your point?
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>>189140697
>trusting Christian math
no thanks
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>>189127898
baby brain
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>>189141862
And yet you resort to a christian board for your lulz.

>>189141657
The point is that you do not realize how low the odds are, for such an odd couple of primates with a different genome, to produce a new species through incest in a hostile environment without any outside helper.
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>>189125599
one post and we're off to the races, apparently,
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>>189131995
that i was curious about too
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Phenotypic selection is the deiver for evolution, if you don't belive in it ur a dumbass asshat that does not want to learn, also why can't evolution and a """"god"""" go hand in hand? We still have a fuckton of unanswered questions... also the odds of certain events that have taken place during evolution is fucking astronomical events like evolving multicellular life and endosymbiosis within certain cells (yes mitochondria the powerhouse of everything)

T. Bachelor in biologi
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Reminder that Tennessee took my great great uncle to court for teaching thet evolution was real.
Feels good man.
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>>189125599
>>189131995
>nobody has ever seen a star form
here ya go:
https://scitechdaily.com/astronomers-observe-the-birth-of-a-massive-star-in-the-milky-way/

The preacher is full of shit
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>>189142071
Again, the odds are irrelevant. Either it happened or it didnt. Evolution is a fact. If you have evidence that overturns it, then go publish your findings. Send me the paper when evolution gets overturned, I'll gladly admit I'm wrong. Until then, what you are peddling is utter bullshit nonsense that no reasonable person should waste time on. Your logic is severely flawed, and you are too fucking busy trying desperately to pretend facts aren't true because they demolish your paper thin assertions. Stop believing in things you cant verify and wait for the evidence to come out or go find it yourself. Its dishonest as fuck to sit there and make shit up. I'm not saying agree with me, just use your head and fuckig think. Christ.
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>>189125599
I used to think this guy was full of shit
Then thunderf00t devolved to thundercuck and now I'm not so sure...
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>>189142549
25 posts and you still haven't been able to get past
>I'm fucking smarter than you
>Religion and faith just means ignoring facts and logic
Are you sure this is for you?





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