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This is your country on Boomers.
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>off grid
>no heating, ac, parking
>115k
I could build a better house than that in a few weekends, and it would have better amenities.
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>>195822715
That's not even worth 50k lol.
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>>195822715
This is typical for blue states desu
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>>195822715
On stilts on a hill in rain country
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Looks comfy.

Probably could get it for $500 a month.
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>>195822715

I don't get how you cunts are always moaning about how bad you've got it when your houses are so cheap.
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>>195822715
That's a 118 year old tool shed.
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>>195822715
>0.37 acres
>built 1900
>no A/C or parking
>$115,000
lmao, fucking boomer "I KNOW WHAT I GOT" mentality. I wouldn't even pay $25k for that, it's a glorified shed one less than half a fucking acre
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cherry picking faggot. that is a fucked up listing though.
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its in a blue state.

Seems about right...
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>>195822715
That no land is fucked up.
Post the neighbors.
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>>195823591
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>>195823591
I was just browsing Zillow for anything under $200,000, which is my price range for a USDA loan. I would be happy to show you the 50 manufactured homes in trailer parks charging $600+/mo space rent that are within $25k of that price. There's a few 50 year old house boats, too.

I also saw pic related's beauty and potential. Too bad I don't have $100k in cash.
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>>195823080
yep, blue state urbanites don't know how to build anything and are stuck with the scraps
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>>195822715
Making goys live in cuck sheds is devilish
Making goys pay a fortune for said cuckshed is priceless
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>>195822715
I would pay 20k for that desu.
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>>195823199
That is not a house. It is a hunting cabin.
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>>195824168
Move to western PA if you want a cheap ass house.
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>>195822715
I could build this for around 9k$ in Poland
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>>195822715

I could get the amish to build me a better cuck shed for not even five thousand lol
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>>195822715
You can easily build a better "home" out of LEGO and it'd cost less.
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>>195824669
I think it could go way cheaper. Maybe $2K or $3K. The priciest would be the land around it.
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>>195823199
are you really justify 115K USD for a literal one room cabin in the woods in the middle of nowhere with no electricity, no water, and no heat?
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>>195825058
I could build that for 9k except power/sewage/well those things alone can cost 20-30k
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>>195822715
I live in Sydney, Australia and the bubble is beginning to burst. Words cannot desribe how hard my dick is becoming at the thought of the boomers who snatched up all these (((investment properties))) losing everything and being forced to live out their final years in the sub standard retirement homes their gen y children will force them into for being the most selfish generation in human history. The day of the pillow is fast approaching lads!

https://www.afr.com/real-estate/sydney-property-prices-fall-95-per-cent-since-their-peak-20181130-h18kt7 (don't get super excited by the url, its 9.5% not 95%. A man can dream though...)
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>Look at the zillow on my house
>They're saying it's worth $50k than what I bought it for.
Fuck you zillow! You're shit is fucked!
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>>195823037
it's not even worth 10k dude
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>>195823122
Well it's been there 118 years, so it seems stable... So far. Certainly not worth even a tenth of the asking price though. But that's just it, asking price. You can ask for whatever you want don't mean you'll get it.
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>>195822715
>American housing crisis

Prices are actually quite staganat now there’s is no housing crisis unless you are trying to buy a condo in San Francisco or Seattle

But those are local issues
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>>195822897
>located next to a popular lake

Dude it’s the location the value of the dwelling is like 30k
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>>195822715
>the west coast.
go 2 states east
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>>195822715
>>195824131
>>195824168
all three of these properties have amazing land value.
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>>195825246
That's probably true, I was thinking just about a simple log cabin without water and electricity.
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>>195824168
>>195822715

>living in cuck states
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>>195826652
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>>195825272
Fuck off jew
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>>195826652
I can’t believe what people in blue states pay and these aren’t not even cheap compared to Texas
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>>195826652
Next up, nice stuff
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>>195824131
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>>195822715
LMAO you are like little child.
Watch this
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>Live in Pajeetsville Virginia
>A modest house is easily a million dollars within 30 minutes of work.
>A somewhat nicer house an hour and a half away is half a million

Why is it like this, /pol/?
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>>195824658
I'm thinking about it. I'd have to abandon my relatives who depend on me, though.
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>>195824131
>former Rothschild house
I wonder if you'd find bloodstains if you renovated it?
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>>195822715
Me and the wife are putting an offer in for this bad boy in wich we will produce several white children
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>>195826982
Jewhive
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>in the first three months of 2018, in more than one fifth of metropolitan areas, housing expenses drain more than 30 percent of income, a widely-accepted metric for home affordability.
Wow BASED, thank god for low interest rates and easy access to debt
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>>195826754
>>195826686
>>195826652
please stop advertising arizona to all these faggots from blue states you retard.
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>>195827542
Did you seriously just dox your future address?
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>>195826715
How us there anything even remotely jewish about hoping the housing market crashes? The housing market has essentially become boomer bitcoin in Sydney and Melbourne, only buying it because the value kept increasing out of control. This forced out young couples from buying their first home because they couldn't afford it and has contributed to the fact that young white people don't have children because they seriously cannot afford it. How do I know this? Because my girlfriend and I experienced this shit, the downturn has given us a glimmer of hope that we might finally afford the deposit we need to buy a home and start a family.

I'm not the jew for hoping it crashes, the jews are the boomers who cashed in their super to buy it all up like it was silver or gold.
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>WA
>Implying the contractor didn't know exactly that some liberal will actually pay that for a literal cuck shed.
Smart business model.
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>>195827542
>three types of siding on the front of the house
what the fuck?
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>>195827542
I'll be sure to mail you a giant box of dildos for christmas next year
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>>195825087

I paid £150,000 for a parking space.
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>>195827542
Your house depresses me
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>>195825272
By the time I can save $60k for a 20% down payment, I dream that prices will fall by 50% back to what they were in 2004.
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>>195822715
>100k
lmfao, its literally a wood shed.
Shits not even worth 5k
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>>195826133
The third one does not. It's on a steep hillside in the armpit between Oregon City and the Clackamas River. The location is not horrible for commuting, though.
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>>195827325
I hate Fairfax County, too.
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>>195823080
>>195824289
This happens in blue states for one simple reason: lots of people want to live in blue states because they aren't 3rd world shitholes. In contrast, red states are mostly 3rd world shitholes, so no one wants to live there. High demand = expensive, low demand = cheap.

Hilarious having to explain basic supply & demand to """free market""" conservacucks.
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>>195822715
the fuck? you're better off buying a plot of land and the materials and building it yourself in about 3 weeks and you'd still save about 80%. 80 years ago the concept of building your own home was very widespread especially if you wanted a holiday cabin or something to relax in
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>>195823037
It’s 0.37 acres, it’s not even worth $1k.
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>>195827325
My boomer father explained it to me well. He always bought the most expensive house he could afford then sold it 5-10 years later using the "equity" from rising prices to afford the down payment on the next. It's a pyramid scheme. The whole system should have collapsed in 2008, but Bush and Obama both pursued policies that would stabilize home prices instead of letting the market correct itself.
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>>195827707
Not a typo.
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>>195828392
>i dont understand real estate or property values: the post

stay in school underage kiddo
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>>195824168
would cop nice price
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>>195828392
hopefully the next recession wipes them all out. Im just saving all my money for when it hits. Then I can finally buy a house and start a family.
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>>195828457
Feel free to explain it to me, plebbitor.
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>>195827977
>>195827754
Kiddos addresses are public record

>>195828020
? Why?

>>195827975
It’s two types and a garage you fuck
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>>195826652
Jesus Christ that's half the price of a two bedroom one path in Denver.
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>>195828266
>>195828082
Read the description it’s 100k becuase it’s on a piece of land near a popular lake not because he building is worth 100k
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>>195827542
A small shack that would have gone for 25k in the 90s goes for 625k nowadays. How that even work?
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>>195828664
To be fair that house is way out in the middle of nowhere

>>195828686
2k Sqft is a shack?? It’s because it’s in a fairly expensive central location.
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>>195828035
I unironically want the Labor party (left wing party) to win our next election just because they have more than hinted at reforming the laws surrounding negative gearing (the kikery that got us into this shitstorm in the first place). If they win just the initial shock will send those with investment properties into an offloading frenzy never mind what the reofrms might actually do when put in place. I don't care about the politics of left or right at this point I just want to afford a house to raise a family in and if a Labor government scares the shit out of the boomers long enough to create a buyers market then so fucking be it.
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>>195826652
At the cost of living in Arizona
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>>195827566
Arizona doesn’t have many Jews
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>>195828595
>Kiddos addresses are public record
Yeah, but nobody would have associated it with you on /pol/.
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>>195827542
Phoenix Arizona has one of the most overvalued real estate markets for some reason
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>>195828669
yeah no shit a fucking piece of shit shed on 0.37 acres of land, What you think because you live NEAR a lake you fucking own it or something? you're the kind of dumbass that would pay 100k for a 200 dollar shed and 0.37 acres just because "its close to a lake"
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>>195822715
Perfect for some faggot with his sandals, ukelele and moleskine notebook.
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>>195827457
>implying the Rothschilds are dumb enough to do the killing somewhere that is connected to them
know your enemy
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>>195828266
there's shit where they grandfather in properties, probably something about the fireplace isn't in accordance to modern code

>>195828669
close to I5 and portland too

>>195828012
LONDON
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>>195828989
>some faggot with his sandals, ukelele and moleskine notebook can afford a downpayment of 5 grand let alone monthly house payments in where the bumfuck nowhere it's at
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>>195828836
Good stay out

>>195828891
....okay

>>195828902
It really doesn’t. It’s pushed higher due to Californians moving in with dollars from their very expensive homes

But our housing prices have on average just hit their 2006 levels after 12 years, there is strong demand still and many of the central neighborhoods have been updated.

As the city has gotten so big people are willing to pay to be closer in than go way out to far suburbs
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>>195828548
its just supply and demand combined with inflation, see >>195828233

by your logic, literally the entire economy is a "pyramid scheme". but yes, muh website wars, muh plebbit, like i said, you're an underage little pantywaist and it shows. i'm sure your "boomer dad" is really "proud" of his """""""son"""""""", kek
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>>195828975
I’m sorry you have a problem with supply and demand
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>>195824168
that house was a meth lab. have fun paying haz mat that can work 90 minutes a day demo your house for $500,000
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>>195826652
>want to live in a crime-riddled, red state shithole with no job prospects? come on down!
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>>195829060
I'm sure they still commit blood libels and God knows what else
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>>195829211
He'll still adamantly defend his wasteland
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>>195829211
>crime ridden
>no job prospects

Lol k, stay in California’s you fucking retard.
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>>195828233
>lots of people want to live in blue states

Then why are people fleeing CA, NY and especially IL in droves?
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It’s called overpopulation. If the population growth had slowed down, the decreased demmand would have lowered the housing prices as the supply overtook it. But, alas, SOMEONE keeps letting millions of illegals into the country and putting pressure on the housing market.
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>>195822715
>buying land and not building a underground bunker for cheap safe living
Boomers why?
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>>195829273
Absolutely, stay mad
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>>195822715
Looks like Detroit to me.
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>>195828233
>california
>new york
>not a shithole
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>>195829320
kek, this meme really never dies on this faggot-infested shithole of a board. here's a real brain teaser: if a poorfag can't afford to live somewhere, there's a good chance they'll move to somewhere they can afford. in other words, poorfags move out as prices rise, richfags move in.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gentrification
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>>195822715
Maybe the windows were recycled from the moon lander...probably autographed by Kubric as well for that price.
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>>195829415
>mad
You're the one responding and defend your shithole. I'll never forget this kid I knew who left arizona for the first time to Oregon and saw all the trees and mountains and was blown away.
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>>195826003
>the value of the dwelling is like 30k
Not even that.
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>>195829443
>muh feelings

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_Human_Development_Index
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>>195829159
oh fuck muh supply and demand!
100% brainlet do you even know the average cost of 1 acre of land in prime real estate areas? you deserve to be ripped off.
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>>195827542
I just put in a higher offer faggot lol the realtor said the first offer was really low and assumes the "potential" buyer was a tradesman
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>>195823199
Fucking kek brit
> y-you are joking right?
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>>195829113
Hippies often have large amounts of cash from drug deals stashed away from prying eyes. Not the street trash type of hippy, but the smart, mobile hippy.
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>>195828975
>doesn't own multiple rec. properties ranging from 50k to 250k
found to poorfag,
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>>195828233
>lots of people want to live in blue states
You mean blue states import lots of people. There's a difference.

Even with immigration, more people are leaving places like California (and moving to red states) overall because it is such a disgusting shithole.
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>>195824322
Go cry at your cuck wall daveed.
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>>195829520
>If only we had those

You are probably the retard that tried to claim that’s Portland was a more serious market than Phoenix top kek.

Stay in your liberal hellhole I really don’t want you to move here.
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>>195828887
But y'all got goblins and goblinas.
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>>195829794
>Hippies often have large amounts of cash from drug deals stashed away from prying eyes
Oh man anon I needed a good gut laugh. You are vaguely right about the selling drugs part but they blow it all faster than they can get it. I've known one hippy with a large enough disposable income, only because he sold weed in huge bulks to dispensaries, and he bought a nice plot of land and the building supplies for a house and totally flaked out and lives in a trailer.
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>>195828233
>In contrast, red states are mostly 3rd world shitholes

Even the white areas?
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>>195825058
I could build this out of used pallet wood that you can get for free
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>>195830014
It's only a liberal hellhole because commiefornians come here instead of your empty shithole. Enjoy your mormons and spics
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>>195829630
>supply and demand is Jewish tricks

Literally nigger tier thinking no wonder you hate house prices

>>195829754
Sure

>>195830052
They stay in their ghettos and we stay in our neighborhoods.

Don’t project California problems on us
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>>195830178
>empty shithole

Nigger are you retarded we are bigger than you and have more commiefornians moving here
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>>195824669
Yeah but who the fuck wants to live in Poland?
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>>195830206
>Don’t project California problems on us
>it's 31% two years ago
That's fucking worse than here. Good god the mental gymnastics anon
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>>195830290
>posts an image of an empty shithole
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>>195830206
None ever said supply and demand was a jewish trick, Nice projection you fucking moron. Kys
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>>195829155
>its just supply and demand combined with inflation
Akshually...
>by your logic, literally the entire economy is a "pyramid scheme".
Lolwut. I'm not going to bother to wall of text you with statistics on this.
>TL;DR for the players in this thread
Housing prices have far exceeded inflation and far exceeded what supply and demand alone can explain. The mortgage system was supposed to democratize land ownership, but instead it's become a vessel for people to buy mcmansions that they couldn't possibly afford without housing inflation far exceeding regular inflation. Supply shortages contributed to it, but without the particulars of the mortgage system, the market would have crashed multiple times and corrected the prices.

A further indication of the pyramid scheme like structure of the market is the flipping industry. Last I checked, 90% of the residential construction in California was flipping homes. They're the worst offenders, but states where it's 50%+ are the norm now. Why build new houses and fight boomers' NIMBY zoning laws when you can buy a grandfathered existing house for market price, work on it for six months, jack up the price from 20% for making it look shiny (structural problems remain), and get another 2-5% just from market inflation? You don't. It's a despair cycle.
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>>195823194
Act now on Zillow where it's $503 a month since you love paying Jews so much!
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>>195830434
It’s literally not you brainlette

>>195830588
Why is it hard for you to understand that land prices go up in areas with high demand for land

Jesus Christ
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>>195828012
One of you are born every minute.
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>>195830642
>usury is a tool of the Jew

Lol okay Ahmed
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>>195828385
.37 acres + cabin on a lake is probably $2500-$10,000 depending on location and state and how close the neighbors are. Land is far more valuable than the cabin. Price could be a little more if mineral rights are included
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>>195830667
No bro, you already proved you're an absolute retard. The argument is over. Go back to eating crayons.
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>>195830206
>>supply and demand is Jewish tricks
>Literally nigger tier thinking no wonder you hate house prices
There's this saying that to be a liberal you have to pretend to know a lot of things, but I don't like that saying. You shouldn't assume people are talking in bad faith. People believe all kinds of strange and improbable things. To be a liberal, you have to dream and never wake up.
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>>195830667
No hispanic white births are about to be overtaken by mexicans but keep on with that mental gymnastics anon. Maybe a little beer will help too
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>>195822715
literal cuck shed
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>>195830890
Non hispanic
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>>195822715
Where you gonna get $500 a month living Inna woods dumb nigger
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>>195822715
Your point?

I'd buy that shit in a heartbeat for that price.
Here in canada even cuck-sheds cost 4x that much.
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>muh supply and demand
Things cost the absolute maximum you can convince someone to pay for them, the actual value does not factor into the cost at all in late stage capitalism, thats why $30 cell phones cost $1000
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>>195822715
Nah bruh that's just peak capitalism.
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>>195822715
>1900 year built
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>>195830890
>>195830804
Hispanic birthrates have been higher than white birth rates in this state a long time but white adults aged 20-60 with their kids moving in from the Midwest and other states keeps us steady demographic wise
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>>195822715
To be honest, that structure could be alright, if you had like 5 other structures serving various tasks. But if this is the primary domicile it is little more than a cuck shack. Doesn't even appear to have a wood stove.
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>>195822715
Wyoming is very expensive.. Everyone there is rich. You could get an actual house in my city for 50k.
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>>195831127
>Things cost the absolute maximum you can convince someone to pay for them
you just described supply and demand you dumb yellow monkey
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>>195822715
>0.37 acres

OK if I'm getting a shack in the woods it had better come with some land, not even half an acre? where the fuck is this thing? Do you even have road access to it?
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>>195822715
You’re paying for the land here, but yeah that’s nuts for an unimproved lot with what amounts to an old shed
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>>195826003
>30k for a shack made from pallets

sure anon.
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Why does everyone here think there can only be one thing influencing market value and not multiple factors all adding together? Things like state property taxes, land repossession, polices of the local area or the state, population levels, Local GDP, land value, buyers intelligence, utilities, nightlife, recreational activities, etc?

Jesus Christ its like people think land value in Cali is directly related to land value in Maine or Floridian Coastline is the same as Nevada. Each region has its own reason for pricing its not just muh liberal areas are more expensive or muh couckservative areas are cheap. There are hundreds of factors.
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>>195823080
This is actually starting to happen in red states in the south east as well because industries and businesses have begun moving here and developing big time and owners want to send a clear message to the ever-multiplying nog population that they are not welcome. I know when I finish college next year I'm going to have to pack up and head to the midwest or something because it's becoming too expensive to afford anything outside of groid-infested towns.
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>>195822715
That looks like my C.A.M.P. in Fallout, 76.
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>>195831529
Because a good chubk of /pol/ is angry poor fags that think things are way worse than they actually are and blames personal failings on right wing boogeymen.

It’s funny because pol is right about most things but some of the spergs on here are just pathetic and hopeless fags
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>>195829526
For 30K I can buy a 1500-1800 sqft house in a Polish village. Even cheaper in Ukraine.

The dwelling is hardly worth more than 10K. You can buy a brand new manufactured home for 30K that is twice the size of this cabin.
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>>195822715
>Be a hipster
>Come from an upper middle class background
>Liberal politics has reduced earning potential and retarded your economy
>But you cannot accept living like "poor, rural white trash Republicans"
>Create mental hoops to justify forced fiscal responsibility
>Dress it up as yuppie culture
>Turn poor people alcohol into craft beer
>Turn living within your means into minimalist living
>Turn trailer parks into tiny eco-house co-ops
>Jews notice that you are trying to not spend money
>Notice that you've crafted a yuppie, hipster culture around it so that you can pretend your not just a poor white person
>Exploit you cultural trappings to over-charge you for all of your hipster shit
>You start spending more money for poor people garbage because God forbid you accept being poor, save money, and eventually lift yourself up into stable class position from a position of deliberate financial responsibility
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>>195830667
>>195831529
>Jesus christ
>Jesus christ
>Jesus christ
>redd*t spacing
>mentally handicapped
Starting to see a trend here
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>>195831731
>you can buy a wood house in a 3rd world war zone for cheaper than a shack in an expensive part of the USA

Wow you are just a fucking genius anon! You are like the next Trump style real estate mogul with these incites
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>>195829155
>its just supply and demand
this underage kiddo hasnt figured it out. Supply and Demand look good on paper in econ 101 but it econ 102 you learn its a bullshit theory of how things should work.
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>>195831459
Its .37 acres!!
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>>195831806
Jesus Christ is an expression of exasperation at how stupid most of you are
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>>195831935
>Poland is a war zone
Nice meme dude. That being said, we are assessing the value of the dwelling, not the property nigger.
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>>195822715
>Buying a home in a National Park
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>>195832044
And material, labor and the standards of construction are much greater in Oregon than Poland

And yes ukrain is a war zone
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>>195822715
Meanwhile in Wisconsin.
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>>195831979
>jesus christ
>i literally can't
>I just can't
>jesus christ
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>>195831806
the trend im seeing is this thread not understanding economics at large but claiming to. And attributing it to single factors and excluding all other influences
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>>195831979
Jesus Christ is the lord our God and you should not take his name in vain.
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>>195831963
you're retarded. supply and demand is an abstract concept of basic capitalist behavior by humans. its not determined by any market factor it's simple human behavior.
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>>195828233
>the absolute state of US education
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>pic
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>>195832224
Yeah muh supply and demand is retarded and people that claim that as the single factor should kill themselves.
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>>195829155

>blurred username

Why?
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>>195832222
Fuck your digits Jesus Christ

>>195832231
Lel I repent
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>>195832393
nah. when demand is high prices go up and when demand is low prices wait until demand is high again. this is how it literally happens. Supply and Demand is how it would happen if we followed our own rules of supply and demand.
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hmm, any reason why houses in Niagra Falls are so cheap?
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>>195832664
Yeah except for that 10-12 year price crash that we just emerged from.

But you were probably 4 years old and don’t remeber
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>>195832401
Dont burst its bubble, I dont want any refugees from pozzistan
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>>195826003
>30k

It's like 12k tops unless I'm not seeing the Jacuzzi or something.
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Is Niagara Falls comfy anons?
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>>195833260
There is a 2012 Kia sorrento with 60k miles behind the shack
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what If I bought this Church and turned it into a strip club?
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>>195822715
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA YOU THINK THATS BAD LOL OMFG
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>>195822715
LOCATION LOCATION LOCATION

My siblings and I sold my grandpas house in SF after he died for 2.5 million and it was a tiny house with nothing special about it but the property was extremely valuable.
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>>195833420
Lel no
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>>195833420
that would be 3.2million in toronto or vancouver
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>>195827542
>ranch house
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>>195833508
Probably wouldn't pass inspection and you'd go broke trying to get it to meet code for a business.
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>>195833420
not too bad, actually. Get's cold as shit, but it's right on the border of canada, which is cool. Don't know how the job market is though
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>>195833420
>zero jobs
>neighbors are all on meth

nope
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It's not limited to the US.
>$300 a month for a 50 square feet room with no water, no nothink
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>>195832865
>>195832664
The price crash was small overall when you look at the purchasing data. Banks literally didn't foreclose on houses for years just to wait for prices to creep back up. They also were very reluctant to approve mortgages and approve business LoCs in the same period, which is a big part of the reason growth was so slow under Obama.

A few people with a lot of cash on hand got good prices in 2008-2011, but the whole problem here is that Boomers retooled the economy to serve the rich in hopes that they'd be the rich. As it is, they're filing bankruptcy at triple the rate their parents did at the same age. Turns out you can replace your children with immigrants, but the immigrants won't let you live with them for free.
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>>195823319
I wouldn't pay 3k for that.
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>>195833556
I went once, to the Canadian side and it was fun, why did New York let their side go?
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>>195834086
because there's no jobs.

that whole stretch from Erie PA to Niagra Falls and further east is a total shithole.
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>>195822715
Dude, with some basic masonry skills you could probably build a decent shack in the woods outside sanfran or places like that.
You know, places with lots of soi shlurping twink faggots who never held hammer in their lives.
You could make good money selling houses like that.
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>>195824168
>No access to inside the house
>$100,000 cash only
Yeah totally not a con job or anything that'll cost you over half a mil to fix
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>>195833603
Most Arizona homes are
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>>195833799
>the price crash was small

Wut?
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On sale for a misly 28,000
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>daddy I can't afford what I waaaannnntt.waahhhhh
I'd pay triple that just for the land it's on so keep on crying pizza delivery careerists.
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>>195827542
Can’t wait to send a shit ton of pizza to that house a year from now
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>>195834324
but that's where the white people who left the cities to escape niggers fled to. Are you saying white people create shitholes?
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>>195834086
New York sucks it’s upper territory dry for the bennifit of NYC
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>>195831963
pardon my spergout
econ 102 is typically macroeconomics, which discusses aggregate supply and aggregate demand. These are still derived from normie supply and demand
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>>195831769
under rated
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>>195834425
Read an economic report for once in your life.
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So buying or renting right now? What's the market say /pol/?
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>>195834629
How comfy is Nova Scotia? where should Iook for a house there?
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>>195834883
>housing prices fall 30-40% in some casses and don’t recoup for 10 years

Yeah it was a small crash kek, sit on glass you fucking twat
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>>195834779
sounds about right
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>>195824460

That's the size of a house for 5 people here.
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>>195834982
Suck it up and buy if you can afford it. Rental prices are exceeding mortgage prices and the rates are going to go up for a while. As much as I wish it were so, prices are not likely to fall much until the Boomers die.
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>>195835037
that looks pretty trad

Would bring wife and have five kids there
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>>195833420
Dude do not move to Niagara Falls. I live 10 minutes away, it's like fucking Somalia. I'm not being factitious; It's nothing but meth heads and off-the-plane niggers from Mozambique. It's hell. Pic related - this photo was taken a block away from the house you posted.
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>>195822715


i hope forest bugs are free too ... lol
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>>195827123
Condos in northern Virginia go for 700k to a million
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>>195824168
Looks pretty chill although probably have to sink a minimum of 50k for other issues. Oregon city is also pretty comfy.
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>>195835308
Side note: That was a "daycare" which turned out to be a front for a bunch of niggers dealing heroin.
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>>195832224
Has anyone brought up property taxes or just state taxation levels in general?
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>>195822715

>100's of miles from nearest ghetto

dunno might be worth it
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>>195835308
lol why is that Barney high?
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NEW ORDER OF BARBARIANS HAS SOMETHING ABOUT IT, LIKE IT ALWAYS DO

https://pastebin.com/cFa6x8M8


"HOME OWNERSHIP A THING OF THE PAST
Privately owned housing would become a thing of the past. The cost of housing and financing housing would gradually be made so high that most people couldn't afford it. People who already owned their houses would be allowed to keep them but as years go by it would be more and more difficult for young people to buy a house. Young people would more and more become renters, particularly in apartments or condominiums. More and more unsold houses would stand vacant. People just couldn't buy them. But the cost of housing would not come down. You'd right away think, well the vacant house, the price would come down, the people would buy it. But there was some statement to the effect that the price would be held high even though there were many available so that free market places would not operate. People would not be able to buy these and gradually more and more of the population would be forced into small apartments. Small apartments which would not accommodate very many children. Then as the number of real home-owners diminished they would become a minority. There would be no sympathy for them from the majority who dwelled in the apartments and then these homes could be taken by increased taxes or other regulations that would be detrimental to home ownership and would be acceptable to the majority. Ultimately, people would be assigned where they would live and it would be common to have non-family members living with you. This by way of your not knowing just how far you could trust anybody. This would all be under the control of a central housing authority.
"
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>>195830627
the flipping industry "works" because consumers are lazy, ie) willing to pay a premium for a house that they likely will not have to do work on. even then, despite what all the hgtv shows would indicate, its typically quite difficult in most markets to make a profit flipping houses.
it really isn't a pyramid scheme, unless you think almost any industry is a pyramid scheme
>the chair company takes $10 worth of materials, fixes it up, and sells these chairs for $30!!! its a pyramid scheme!!!!
people who make money flipping houses do so as a result of arbitrage, finding a product potentially worth more than it is being sold for, and labor, working to improve the product to become more valuable. normie soibois and boomers could buy a fixer upper themselves and do the work, but they are either unable to, or put their labor at a premium above the cost of doing so. this is why this "pyramid scheme" works, because people are willing to pay these prices. excuse my drunk rambling
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>>195834720
No dude. I live in WNY, it's literally niggers who got shipped into Buffalo during the 70s and 80s who turned the whole area into a complete dump. When Bethlehem Steel closed down, all the middle class whites moved away from the city into the suburbs around it (Cheektowaga, West Seneca, Orchard Park) and all the city property was basically turned into a section 8 dumping ground.
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>>195835600

see:

>>195835439
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>>195832865
I was 20 when 2008 rolled around. The year started off fine, but then gas went from $2 a gallon to $4 and min wage was still $5.50 an hour in PA. I had to drop out of CC because it cost more to drive to school than attend it. It was an awful time, no jobs, no money, everything too expensive. Houses in my neighborhood in PA were 100k then and are still 100k. My sister just blew 80k on a shack in Natrona. Supply and demand is a meme.
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>>195835686
it's called feudalism. the commoner is reverting back to serfdom.
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>>195835308
Also I have a house in Traverse City, Michigan I'm not leaving it any time soon. I did take a job in Ohio, but I kept the house as a vacation home. pic related is why I kept it.
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>>195832203
shh don't tell the FIBS
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>>195835090
Yeah...look past Q2 2009 data. It's been 10 years now, anon. And pay attention to the sales data, like I said.
>>195835726
Since you're drunk, I'll give you a pass. The thing here is not added value. A better metaphor would be 80% of all chair companies stop making new chairs, instead "recycling" old chairs by sanding and repainting and reselling them for 25% higher than they bought it at a price point that only 25% of customers can afford. The chair company doesn't care about the lost business from switching, because the economy has contracted and only 35% of customers could have afforded the old prices anyway. But now 75% of people are without chairs. So what happens? People who already have excess chairs start renting them out. This is rent in both sense of the word and it causes a drag on the economy.
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>>195829630
you poor dumb faggot. you and your cockroach family undoubtedly deserve the squalor you create for yourselves.
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>>195822715
City boi thinks we buy houses in woods not land with cabin
Well if it’s on 1acre lot that would suck but if it’s on 40acre lot that would be normal market price (MI) if it’s on 100acres that’s a great deal. You can always add on to your house but you can never add land to your property. (Unless you buy neighbors land)
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>>195833696
Difference is that houses like this is sitting on 40acre lot in USA
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>>195833420
NY state taxes
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>>195835580
It’s a vacation / hunting property. Lots of people own land for recreational use
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>>195836360
0.37 acres.
It sucks more than a San Francrackwhore tranny.
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>>195836360
>>195836563

look at the image you dumb fuck. I'm from Michigan I'd laugh at a "country boi" like you buying some 120 sqft shack on not even half an acre of land.

I'm seen beach front with ten acres cheaper than this in Michigan. where do you get that 0.37 acres in the middle of the woods going for over 100k is reasonable?
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>>195835980
Snob!! Mine is on the eastern side of I75 away from upity yuppies. t. Onaway
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>>195836809
You hunt on less than an acre? how?

I hunt on my Dad's 25 acres or my Brother-in-Law's 40. I have half an acre in Traverse City, I can't do any hunting on it you dumb shit.
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>>195836809
yeah a .37 acre vacation property for 120,000 ok buddy
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>>195822715
>WA
get out of the coastal states
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>>195836902
>I'm seen beach front with ten acres cheaper than this in Michigan.
Oh do tell cause I can’t find one.
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>>195836249
thank you for the drunkpass. I really do not see the problem with this though. the reason flipped house are able to sell at the prices they do is because people are willing buying them. a huge section of the market for homes is yuppies lacking the skills/desire to renovate a house, so they buy a piece of shit that a high school dropout put new paint and hardwood floors on. maybe it wasn't you but a lot of people here seem to think this is all a gloablist ruse and maybe it is indirectly, but the direct cause is a large section of potential home buyers having more money than sense

do you have any data that indicates another housing market collapse in the near future? not being a dick genuinely interested
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>>195837147
I grew up in South Boardman Michigan just a few miles south of Kalkaska Michigan. I earned that fucking house. I'm not some rando from out of state fagging up the place. I bought that house when I was 18 years old with money I earned working cherries as a teenager. and I paid it off durring college by renting to other college students. now I own it free and clear.

call me a snob again Roger City fag. Are those Limestone mines or salt mines?
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>>195836809
It's a pitiful cuck shack and you know it.
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>>195825923
Reminds me of the old addage: "Don't ask, Don't Get"
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>>195837293

and yes I'd rather have an empty ten acre lot with beachfront for 90k than a 120 sqft shack with less than an acre of land for 115k
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>>195833420
>ny
>townhouse
>$69k
i'm gonna go with blegs
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>>195837872
Yeah, probably not expecting to get near that much but it's a good high number to haggle down from.
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>>195837682
also hoping any anon buys this and names it NoNigger Island.
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>>195822715
Someone pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee go up there and burn it down!
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>>195822715
>0.37 acres...
Nice cuck shed.
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>>195837681
this, He's probably the owner larping to try and unload the worthless thing.

He should price it at $5,000 because any more than that is unreasonable...and tear down the shack because the property is probably worth more without it.
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>>195822715
Le fucking mao
I have a shed in the back that looks like that.
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>>195825272
Are you subbed to this Aussie YT channel that goes into all of the housing market crash info > https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKWDscRjYFTD1KHsmow4-bQ/videos
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>>195838708
My woodshed in the back yard is bigger than that thing tbqh
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>>195838608
have you heard about the nearby lake?
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>>195835037
bruh how hard is it to get Canadian citizenship for Americans?
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>>195829122
>...okay
Someone please screencap this and show him the error of his ways once the name change is official online... Some people have to learn the hard way about the dangers of posting personal info on the internet.
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>>195835037

I bet its comfy with you but you need to bring your own money because there are no jobs.
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>>195827542
Buying a house now, just as Boomers are retiring en mass, and the property market peaked this year? It is going down for the next 10-15 years, back to 2000/2001 prices by simple maths. Now is not the time to buy a house. There will be a slight pick up in prices mid-2020s due to Millenials hitting peak spending, but it is stil downward overall in the next 15 years.
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Would be a nice fishing cabin tbqhwy.
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>>195826652
>>195826686
>>195826754
Affordable, but fucking hideous.
God I hate cheap cookie-cutter culture-less generic American housing.

>>195832203
This is alright. Pretty comfy looking.
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>>195838936
tell me about the cuckshed "near" a lake
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>>195828035
Guaranteed happening. The only issue you have is making sure that deposit you're saving isn't held in a bank so they steal it using the bail-in laws in the next crash.
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>>195826003
>the value of the dwelling is like 30k
That's generous.
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>>195839537
for real though
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>>195827687
this.
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>>195822715
>implying it will sell at that price
i can offer to sell my used underwear for 10 million dollars, but no one will fucking buy it.
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>>195837682
Would the state even let you build a house on that island?

But I guess it's because it'd be a pain in the ass getting construction material to that island.
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>>195822715
in this case you are most likely paying for the land rather than the cabin on it.
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>>195822715
Hey burgers, how would you rate Jacksonville, FL. Am I gonna get stabbed by a melanin enriched American?
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>>195840113
just get a boat faggot
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>>195840592
Fuck Florida and fuck you.
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>>195840592
Stay away from inner city as with any city. Ive been to Jacksonville a few times it seems pretty standard for a moderately sized city.
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>>195828233
>lots of people want to live in blue states because they aren't 3rd world shitholes

I lived in California my whole life, it's just another state. It's not Rivendell, Bilbo. It's got pockets of nice places but also loads of squalor. Some of the cities are so disgusting you get Heptatitis just crossing the street. And God help you if you sit on a public bench.
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This thread is making me feel better about my situation. I've been contemplating suicide for months.

>2800sq-ft house, 3.5 car garage
>Stone bed landscaping
>3 acres of lawn
>3 acres of woods
>1 acre pond, 3 natural waterfalls
>Back deck overlooks Blue Ridge mountains, 6 person hot tub
>Custom built in 2011

My mortgage is 1200/mo, 7 years in. Red state, low taxes. I can't imagine how expensive this property would be in a blue state.

But yeah, life sucks. You work your ass off to achieve something and the goalposts move with it. Once you realize that all the blood, sweat, tears, and sacrifices you made really amount to nothing, you question why you bother

Let me save you all a lot of stress. Aim low in ownership, aim high in achievement. I've got $200k sitting in my garage right now and it hasn't brought me the slightest bit of happiness.

Simplicity is far more satisfying than becoming a slave to what you own. My 20s were wasted working my ass near to death, and I'm starting my 30's feeling like an old man. No energy, health issues, you name it. It's not worth it.
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>>195840539
>115k for 0.37 acres in the middle of the woods
>y-your paying for the land.

Doesn't matter how many times you change your IP and your ID, you aren't selling that shit you dumb shit.
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Holy fuck you fucks are retarded. It's on a lake. You are paying for the land. You don't realize waterfront property is worth way more literally everywhere. Fuck sake
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>>195840113
>Would the state even let you build a house on that island?
What are they going to do, send a police car?
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>>195835987
You think they're gonna live there? The government isn't nearly corrupt enough for them, and unlike Commiefornians, they have the decency to stay in their shithole state.
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>>195828233
No body wants to buy your shack in the woods for 100k anon.
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>>195840845
>you aren't selling that shit you dumb shit.
looks pretty comfy desu
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>>195822715
It is our country and Unfortunately we have no one of any worth to leave it to. So we’ll just burn the motherfucker behind us.

t. Yo Daddy
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>>195840956
>it's on a lake so it's ok that it's over priced
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>>195823199
Bruv, I hope your 'I don't get' licence is up to date.
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>>195841170
It still only offers 0.37 acres and had an ugly woodshed on it.
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>>195824168
It is fucked to try to build in oregon city.
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>>195841400
wicked steal right there
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>>195830731
Google Charlemagne faggot
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>>195841704
there are better places to live than a shed anon.

pic related, with the money you save you can buy a brand new cuckshed.
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>>195831769
succinct and accurate. this describes the liberal retards by whom i am surrounded.
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>>195841400
It is probably a bit overpriced since it has been on the market for 97 days, but seems reasonable for the area. A real estate agent will not list it for a ridiculous amount, it will just waste their time.

t. Master Appraiser
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>>195824168
Welcome to asset price inflation after your government robbed you to pay the banks (QE)

Now you can't afford a home because the free money went into assets (housing) and you can't get ahead by saving (because of suppression of interest rates) so you can't do anything with your money to get ahead but speculate in cheaper assets (the stock market) which makes companies get richer and shareholders get richer
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>>195842054
I wonder what 115k buys you in Montana.
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>>195827542
somebody screencap this. hello dox
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>>195842135
Dat big sky country...
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>>195842135
I wonder what a dollar will buy you in Detroit.
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>>195842306
and apparently you can basically buy your own lake in Minnesota for less than 100k.
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>>195827542
>That
>Costing 625k
Fuck me.
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>>195832203
I mean it's easy to buy these places but what would you do for a living if you moved in? Is it just to own property or is this your 'forever home'? If you do work remote, it's likely IT so you need to strap out the ass for internet because Pembine is literally Bumblefuckistan adjacent.
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>>195824168
>House on a hill in landslide country.
I see its potential too, everything for a reason anon.
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>>195827542
>doxing yourself
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>>195827842
Can confirm this anon isn't a jew but in fact is a deadset legend.
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>>195825246
That cost is artificial, forced by law. You could do all of this for much less if there weren't laws requiring you to pay other people to do it, and laws increasing their costs as well.
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>>195828902
After climate change it will have the most pristine weather in the world. It already does if you can handle the hot hot heat.
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>>195827842
>>195842774

Did you see the RBA are getting the serfs ready for QE in Aus?

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/rba-interest-rates-cuts-are-an-option-qe-2018-12

Theyre gonna trash the middle class even further. Savings rates have no hope of growing. You either invest (give us your money in the sharemarket) or buy property (re-inflate the bubble and price out Australians and make Australia attractive to China again) or you lose real money with zero/negative interest rates.
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>>195827687
This, we got enough liberal cunts now already. Since kyrsten the dumb hole synema won
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>>195842633
>work in the city live in a one bedroom shit apartment and pay off the cheap ass house you bought in the nice quaint little town,
>retire early with a lot of savings and a nice house to live in.

That's my plan with my Traverse CIty hosue. it's actually already paid off, so once I've built up a decent nest egg I'm moving back. I figure about ten fifteen years tops an I'll be retiring at around 35 to 40 years old because I'm not wage cucking to pay off a massive house debt I just need enough to eat eat and pay my internet bills so I can shit post on 4chan. I make 75k per year and live in a pretty cheap apartment in Ohio currently. I've been able to put away about 50k per year. If I can keep it up I'll be retiring early for sure.
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Just bought this house. Got it for 206k, 3 bed, 2 1/2 bath, 1920 sqft. What does /pol/ think?
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>>195843251
Looks like a cookie cutter midwest house.
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Washington is a ripoff state full of far leftist cucks and retards. It's basically a 3rd world country only difference is cheap plastic siding "muh trendy" marketing and ridiculous pricing. - Just call a shed in the middle of nowhere a "420 shack" and charge a retard $500 to $2000 - https://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/apa/d/420-cabin-tiny-house-for-rent/6747946225.html
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>>195843643
Did they use a door from an RV?
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>>195843440
It is, kinda. I'm having my first kid and my this is what I could afford with my current salary. The inside is nice and the backyard is decently sized. The main thing I'm hoping is to profit off of it by selling it in 10 years and upgrading.
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>>195843937
>Selling
>Not renting it out
For shame.
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>>195843984
Was considering renting, but it will honestly depend on the market and how much I can profit.
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>>195843984
renting out your property can be hard work. trying to find a tenant that you can trust is really hard. I rented out for a few years, but only because I trusted one of the tenants to keep the other roomies in line. but once he left things went to shit and I had to kick people out and I haven't rented since.

One of those fuckers tore the door off my woodshed, trashed the kitchen and cut down a tree to sell the wood. Renting out a house can be a nightmare.
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>>195822715
t. zoomer who doesn't understand inflation.
That would be $50,000 only twenty years ago moron, and $20,000 another twenty before that.
>it's overpriced!!!
yeah and so is your mom le mayo
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>>195843155
fair enough, not a bad plan. you've got all the logistics down? cable, internet, local food and shoppin' shit?
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>>195844487
>i-it's inflation.
you ain't selling that shit when there are way better waterfront places to build a cabin in the woods for half the price and ten times the acreage.
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>>195844635
have you been to Traverse City nigger? It's a small town, not a ghost town.
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>>195845034
hell no, I just thought you made the name up. kingdom hearts something or other.
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>>195845196
Five star wines, overpriced hotels and no niggers

it's fucking paradise anon.
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>>195845469
>wine
>anti-tourist
>no niggers
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>>195826652
A house like that here in Canada is easily over a million dollars.

Fuck me I'm going to detriot.
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>>195823199
u got loicense for being a retard?





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