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Redpill me on climate change, faggots.
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>>199461907
They are spraying so much shit in the sky that it's impossible to judge anything without accounting for it.
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I know Obama should have issued an executive order to deal with it.
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>>199461907
no it's real and that's why you need to pay, also lets bring in millions more people to pollute more
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>>199462041
Elaborate.
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>>199461907
measuring of global averages per year with a observer increase of 0.X deg Celsius in different iterations
how those measurements are gathered and where and how they are compiled is usually never talked about
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>>199463027
There is a worldwide geoengineering operation going on for various reasons in various places. Been going since the 60's and continues to grow. They spray reflective and conductive metals in the air to make it rain, block sun, aid radio testing, etc. Without accounting for this, which they don't, it impossible to judge CO2 effects. Look up Stratospheric Aerosol Injections.

The real issues are GMO and pesticides/chemicals destroying the land and sea.
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>>199461907
>Redpill me on climate change, faggots.
The "experts" are literally FALSIFYING DATA. You can't believe anything they put forth.
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>>199464016
Direct thermometer measurements, however, reported by countless individuals at traditional stations, almost universally show the temperature for any given day over the decades is going slightly down, not massively up.
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>>199461907
The climate has always been changing. No one has presented a scientific way of predicting it beyond less than a day into the future. Climate projections beyond this is on par with divining the future in tarot cards. The UN siphons off empire levels of wealth from the western world because of these unsubstantiated and unscientific predictions. Said nefarious organization then use these billions and billions of monies they accumulate to exterminate the white race. Now you know everything you need to know about climate change.
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>>199464142
PLEBE DO NOT INTERPRET DATA YOURSELF
YOU ARE NOT CAPABLE
YOU ARE NOT AN EXPERT
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Give me more info on those SAIs, boi!
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>>199461907
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>>199461907
It is fucking cold right now.
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>>199461907
7.5 billion people. 6 billion heads of livestock.1 billion combustion engines. Millions of factories, mines and power plants. Biodiversity is being annihilated. Rainforests are disappearing. Coral reefs are in the process of dying, or are already dead. Oceans are filled with plastic and are becoming acidic. But no, it's all fine. Environmental scientists are just stupid hyperbolic panic-mongers. It's not like life on Earth is some freak rarity in an otherwise desolate universe - we'll just go live on Neptune if things don't pan out here , and besides, an environmentalist said something mean to me once, so let's roll the dice!!!
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>>199464682
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>>199464713
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>>199464740
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>>199464777
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>>199464811
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>>199464682
"The earth is fine. The PEOPLE are fucked."
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>>199464777
its not much of a thermal insulator, besides it helps plants grow.
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Climate change isn't real.
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>>199464142
the issue is how its measured and compiled
urban areas are usually hotter and station close to them will measure growth over time
rural areas and stations devoid of human populations are cooler
increased urbanization might contribute to this trend

even so measurements of each country should be taken into account and of those only western ones
since developing ones tend to inaccurate for reasons of incompetency
usually its compiled globally assuming the numbers are correct and i assume thats why there is a recorded avg increase

people usually never talk about the numbers and use climate change as a bludgeon
im open for it one way or the other but will take a side when the data is public and not pre compiled
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>>199464740
>>199464713
>>199464682
>CO2 cuck
Do you ever attempt to judge the effect of all the geoengineering and pesticides? Or do you spend all day analyzing your exhalation rate?
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>>199464016
This. NOAA tweaks the data all reseacher use, so of course it will al show warming. Every uses the same weather data that fucked with at the source
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>>199462552
>also lets bring in millions more people to pollute more
This is the most annoying and telling part of it.
>western lifestyles are evil
>we must cut back
>luckily western populations are shrinking at a steady rate
>problem solved???
>Fuck no! lets bring in millions from the third world to live at the same level and produce more pollution.
If environmentalists actually believed there own bullshit, they would be the staunchest anti immigration group around.
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>>199464682
>here, have lots numbers
>being lots of numbers, ergo it's too much numbers
>this is science
>gief shekels plx
>t. UN
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CO2 does not cause warming.
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>>199464682
Listen to yourself faggot. Why dont they do shit about that stuff you listed? Why only “muh global warming”
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>>199461907
Truth:
1. Burning a bunch of shit (producing mostly water vapor) and putting it into the air is going to make the planet warm up

2. Humans can't deny that we are unnaturally affecting the relative amounts of CO2, CH4, SO3, etc. into the air which then compounds with natural processes

3. Climate scientists are a meme and have been caught falsifying data multiple times and cling to global warming because it provides them a full source of citation materials where they can just validate each other while gaining social status

4. Almost every single climate change model proposed by academics has been wrong for 20+ years. We only have 180 years worth of data which is a speck in the geologic age of the Earth so modeling is nearly impossible

Balanced path:
The Earth is currently in a microcosm warming period but we can't prove whether it's man-made or not and therefore all the science behind it is really just some academic BS to justify grant money and almost unquestioned paper approval. There is a legitimate question though concerning whether we should just be moving to green energy regardless. Leveraging free energy from the sun seems pretty logical desu. That being said, let the market handle that move and don't crash economies to force it into happening.
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>>199465181
>Truth
Prove your truth then, you ultra-faggot.
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>>199464297
What a nice, comfortable life you must lead, where everything is so simple...
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>>199464811
Watch the temps slowly increasing. This summer will be hotter than the last one
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Fake news
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its 22°F outside right now, ask me anything.
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>>199465181
i agree
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>>199462041
>spraying so much shit in the sky

fuck off with your chemtrail bullshit.
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>>199464297
I'm dying
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>>199463557
fuck off you ignorant cuck. all the white lines that persist and spread are contrails you cunt. Why you no learn science?
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Nothing we do will matter if we allow Africa, China, and India to continue on their present course.
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Its real. Jews own the oil industry. You're stupid goyim for thinking they're not in big energy and climate change denial isn't a smoke and mirrors tactic. The day of the rope will be with 100% recycled materials.
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>>199465281
Isn't it your world that's simple? Where your nice rulers are helping you to save the world from your sinful ways by nothing more than you paying them lots and lots of shekels? Sounds comfy and reassuring.
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>>199464016
>The "experts"

really? 1000s of scientists all over the world over decades are all falsifying data.

No. you are either lying or just an ignorant fool- which is it?
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>>199461907

>(((climate change)))

Just another psyop by the kikes to further divide the people and make a quick buck with (((anti-climate change technology))).
"Rapefugees fleeing climate change" is also their angle.
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>>199464682
>Biodiversity is being annihilated. Rainforests are disappearing. Coral reefs are in the process of dying, or are already dead.
Not due to anthropogenic climate change, just regular old pollution at work here.
>acidic oceans
This probably is due to CO2 levels, but you can't really prove an increase in atmospheric CO2 is due to humans, or even what effect it will have on the climate.
We were at 5000ppm 440 million years ago.
Besides, with solar output steadily decreasing, shouldn't we be glad things are getting warmer and not colder?
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>>199465297
You need a lot more sources buddy
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>>199465291
how was the data gathered
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>>199465100
>Every uses the same weather data that fucked with at the source

no they dont. Russia, China, Japan Euros etc...all have their own data. Unless they are all lying then you are ignorant.
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>>199465564
They are given incorrect data to use. Look up NOAA, they freely admit they tweek the data, we just have to trust they do it correctly. Someone reply to me with a scientific concesus on how noaa tweeks their data, I’ll wait..forever...
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>>199464839
Is that what CO2 looks like? Ive always wondered.
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>>199465688
Also, Russia, China and Japan don't give a shit about climate change and thoroughly laugh at your scientific illiteracy. Euro gets it's data from UN auxiliaries just like every one else who've been suckered into this racket.
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>>199465726
>Look up NOAA,

not the only source of data you stupid cunt.
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>>199461907
every once in a while the climates change and its not everyone's liking.THE END
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>>199465688
Really? And how exactly do they get historical data from the US? Oh yeah...
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>>199465545
I believe the world is chaotic and nobody is in control. You are the one imagining powerful rulers.
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>>199465566
(((They))) are intentionally going along with destructive pollution but want you to think what (((they))) do isn't causing problems. You're a shabbos goy denier.
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>>199465688
my country does it and we record no such thing as climate change...
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>>199465808
you are either ignorant or lying...which is it?
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/19/climate/china-carbon-market-climate-change-emissions.html
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>>199465878
It's as easy as checking the numbers. That billions and billions of dollars is paid as absolution of sin to the bagholders who run the game isn't really disputed by anyone. Your media just tells you it's justified. I believe money equates to power in some sense, if you don't want to believe that, go ahead.
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>>199461907
Seriously, they can’t even predict the weather two days from now... the farmers almanac is more believable than “climate scientists”
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>>199465955
>China released plans on Tuesday to start a giant market to trade credits
You're cute. You obviously don't get the Chinese at all. They just want in on the scam.
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>>199465464
Thank you for bringing more attention.
STRATOSPHERIC AEROSOL INJECTIONS
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stratospheric_aerosol_injection
They literally teach this to climate grad students at this point.
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>>199465928

Oh boy, we've got a live one!
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>>199465955
Just because China wants to be able to breath doesnt mean it has shit to do with climate change. Use logic much? In the US not to long ago out gas gussling cars without emissions requirements were pretty annoying too to breath around. I know a lot of people from china and they say you can't even “survive” without some really good air purifier at home.
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Climate change is part of the 'natural' cycle of the planet. However, every flood that has reset the earth has been perpetrated by the same beings that put the artificial moon into orbit. Those beings can manipulate the planet with their moon. Humans start fucking up. They play with the moon. We get washed away. They start the experiment all over again. Before the moon, humans were primitive, yet peaceful. We all (including animals and plants) were able to communicate. We lived in harmony. Fuck those moonmen.
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>>199461907
Read this book.
Not only are the effects exaggerated, anything co2 output is doing is averting a coming ice age and fertilizing plants to increase the output of farms
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Even plant life releases CO2. CO2 is a product of the Earth heating, not the cause. Also, vents and volcanoes in the oceans raise the temperature slightly, releasing water vapors which is a large part of green house gas. The sun is also entering a stage of low flare activity and it's more likely we're heading for a small "ice age" than some unprecedented life-ending heat wave.
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>>199466198
Go breath in power plant exhaust and tell me its perfectly natural and normal.
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>>199466225

>Climate change is part of the 'natural' cycle of the planet.

Oh boy, finally an intelligent post...

>that other shit

Aaaaaaaaand it's GONE.
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>>199466091
nope
wont let me post but check out this article from Nature:
"Understanding how China is championing climate change mitigation"

you are wrong
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>>199465464
>http://texasweathermodification.com/index.html
Literally you can buy rain everywhere.
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>>199466337

You wanna maybe go and sniff some volcanic fumes? 100% natural, my dude.
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>>199466364
YOU WILL NOT POLLUTE OUR CHILDREN'S FUTURE KIKE. FUCK OFF.
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>>199466364
Oy vey humans can't possible harm the climate the post.
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>>199466416
>the newspaper told me
>it must be true
I remember being as naive and dumb as shit as you. Good times. Being dumb as a brick is a very restful existence and I wish I could go back.
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>>199466226
In the past 50 years alone their is a whole UNITED STATES of surface area on the planet that is greener. Some people still bitch about trees being cut down I love to remind them that domestically(US) and globally trees are growing like crazy, we can’t cut them down fast enough! CO2 is making our plants dope
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>>199465291
Good. Danish summers normally suck and the last one was great. Let the niggers roast for all I care. Worst case scenario, we'll build desalination plants and power them with all these fucking windmills we built.
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>>199466493
Do you want volcanic eruptions going off constantly nearby you? Dumb fucking jew, of course you don't.
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>>199464352
>you have to be certified to interpret our data
literally the only field of science that thinks this way. seek help
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>>199466127
yup- been studying it for a while now...David Keith even wants to do an experiment soon

https://www.technologyreview.com/s/603974/harvard-scientists-moving-ahead-on-plans-for-atmospheric-geoengineering-experiments/but that still doesnt mean contrails are really "chemtrails"- thats retarded
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>>199466607
Also, the sea is fucking teeming with fish. We've never had larger industrial scale fishing than today and beyond the doomsayers of the priesthood and their cultist followers it shows no sign of any scarcity.
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>>199466605
>newspaper

newspaper? No. Its a peer-reviewd scientific journal. Either rebut the article or fuck off. Your handwaving is indicative of a weak intellect.
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>>199466601

>humans can change the climate

Yeah, gonna need some proofs with historic data of the last 5-6 centuries.

>>199466681

Volcanoes release more toxic shit into the atmosphere than any factory ever can.
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>>199466770
Idk about that, pollution is fucking up the oceans bad. Shit fish from 100 years no one would eat are now a delicacy lol
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>>199466700
>can't into sarcasm or satire
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>>199466364
It's a broad audience.
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>>199466940
Commercial jets don’t do this(i tested their fuel) military are the ones that do this shit, they use different fuel amongst other shit...
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>>199466748
>David Keith even wants to do an experiment soon
They have been doing this 40 years+ anon. I have academic texts from the 60's talking openly about how much economic benefit they can get and photos of them mounting sprayers on forest service planes. Anyone in climate science professionally knows it's going on.
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>>199466908
peer reviewed by chinks. man you are incredibly gullible.
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>>199466940
It's hard to tell the difference when the reality is exactly like the satire.
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>>199461907
Most developed world will benefit from climate change
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>>199467107
It's military for sure, they come out of the AFB near me, not the airport. All planes are standardized and the grid the sky blatantly.
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>>199467295
kek, agreed. I could have easily been a serious person.
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>>199466908
>rebut
You seem to live in the delusion that the corrupt and dumbed down academies the socialists have ruined and turned into adult kindergartens still have a shred of credence with rational people anywhere. You have no conception of science, you just swallow whatever authority tells you. Go rebut your fedora up your ass you fag, you're the modern day equivalent of the medieval christcuck.
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>>199466933
That's a result of overfishing.
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>>199464713

CO2 is up from Historic lows that had turned 1/3 of the planet into desert.

This is a good thing for our civilization.
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>>199467107

yes. they. do. How much water vapor is created by burning fuel? What happens when the water vapor meets -40 temps? It freezes into visible ice crystals. If its humid enough they will persist. This has been documented ever since planes have flown high enough.

Clouds persist- why cant contrails?

You cant be this stupidhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=11&v=epa6WxEw1Xk
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>>199467110
As soon as crop dusting took off, well, you know the rest. Eventually, new technology is militarized or used as some sort of weaponry.
Mutant unrelated
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>>199467110
>mounting sprayers on forest service planes.

really? I wonder what that could be for?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N59FEqoRvJo
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>>199467150
>peer reviewed by chinks.

no. quit lying
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>>199467728
And you don't respond to me because I already BYTFO you piece of shit shill.
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>>199467373
so, you cant actually rebut anything instead just spew a bunch of insults and retarded gibberish.

thanks for playing
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>>199466770

Top fucking kek, I really hope you're trolling. It's like talking to a wall with you faggot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIXZGZXCv2E
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>>199461907
A trogan horse designed to destroy the west.
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>>199464839

Imagine my shock when the European believes Himanity is a cancer and not the most amazing thing to ever happen in the universe... those fucking EU oligarch Globalists want you to kill yourselves.
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>>199467300
This should be common knowledge by now. Any anon who lives in the southwest where there are over 250 days of sunshine per year can tell you that these are not contrails. The morning starts with a clear blue sky. By midday, there are lines all over the sky that gradually form cloud cover. Problem is nobody wants to think or research for themselves. They'd rather regurgitate what their idols say.
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>>199468724
>these are not contrails.

why? cloud persist. Contrails are just clouds of ice. why cant they persist? "chemtrails" are retarded.
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>>199468107
>rebut
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>>199468491
Oh snowflake humans are so special because I'm a human and can say that.
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>>199468408
>look at my propaganda video of 100m shoreline
>the world is ending!!!11
>gief shekels plx
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>>199465291
when the Pacific gets red、 thats an EL NIÑO
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGn-Vcxztng
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>>199468041
That's a HUUUUGE contrail
T. Captain Bigelow
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I never really understood the whole chem trail argument. Aren’t the people behind it inhaling that shit too? You can’t be indoors forever you know
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>>199461907 (OP)
>Redpill me on climate change, faggots.
climate change is a global wealth redistribution scheme.
The idea is to tax wealthy 1st world countries via carbon taxes, and then give this money to poor countries. It's a global version of national welfare schemes.
So for all those that love the idea of soaking the rich with high taxes, will you accept being taxed 200% on gasoline and electricity to help poor countries? Because even america's poor are vastly more wealthy than people in the developing world.
America's poor must pay their 'fair share' to the developing world in the form of a higher cost of living via carbon taxation.
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>>199468939
>chemtrails are retarded
No. They are mentally challenged. Please be more sensitive.
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>>199465564
Experts say not all men have a penis, anon
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>>199468966
Rebut is name of surgery to fix flat buttbutts. Rebut
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If you are a climate change denier you are a jewish puppet supporting white genocide and you deserve to burn with your jewish masters.
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>>199469227
Use this one later. :)
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The incredibly accurate temperature recording that has only been around for the last 70 years or so cannot be stacked against the estimation of past temperatures. The fidelity of the past estimations is extremely low. Ice core samples cannot tell you even decade to decade variances, you're looking at hundred year estimations. There is literally nothing to be gained by comparing that with, "well over the last 5 years we've increased by x." Even if I agree that the earth is in a warming cycle, that's far better than being in a cooling cycle. It's an engineering issue, and forgive me if I believe that humans can solve whatever gradual changes to the coasts occur. Same thing with moving farming locations. If Michigan loses 2 weeks off of it's winter over the next 100 years, I'll be happy.
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>>199468724
I'm not ignoring the obvious shill. Basically getting people to look up snaps them out of it. Good luck though, their phone is down.

Waking up early helps solidify it too. Clear days become overcast days and you can watch the entirety of it come out of the back of planes criss crossing back and forth.
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>>199461907
Climate change has been happening naturally since forever. The Sahara desert was a lush rainforest 10k years ago. Ice ages have come and gone countless times, include as recently as a few hundred years ago.
The current climate narrative is used to attempt to slow down western economies and by kikes attempting to profit from carbon tax credit trading.
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>>199465464
The picture was not the spraying he was talkin about. The Stratospheric spraying goes on at such an altitude as to not b visible from the ground. Climate change is obvious. Manmade climate change is a lie and scam.
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>>199470658
I should've been more specific. When I said ''climate change'' I should've said ''modern climate change narrative''.
Anyway. this is pretty much what I suspected from my research so far.
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>>199461907
Humans have dramatically impacted environment and climate since the last ice age. So it's happening, but impact and conquences heavily weighted depending on which side of the politcal spectrum you sit on.
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>>199470351
I concur. But it's easier and en vogue to nod and agree with the talking head npcs.
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>>199470194
True. It's also the mating call of the fedora.
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>>199461907
climate always changes, it's called weather
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>>199470970
Humans dont impact climate.
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>>199470556
Yup. Maybe I'll do a time lapse this weekend and post it in the next climate thread. It's like clockwork.
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>>199470970
>humans causing climate change
Yep. It all started with this guy.
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>>199470556
I had a long running argument with with a guy here about the nature of these peculiar new contrails that behave like no contrail has ever behaved. He held on to the "increased air traffic" like his life depended on it.

Funny thing, during the last year here in Norway they stopped the spraying, almost for a whole year. No idea why. But in any case I phoned him up and asked if air traffic was down this year or something. Depressed the poor guy no end.
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>>199470970
Leaf.
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>>199470970
Not to worry. Theyve finally caught him. Reparations to mother erf when?
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Kekd
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>>199469227
It's millions and happened 2 days ago faggot, destroyed a whole ecosystem, some of these fish are over 100 years old.
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>flintstein
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>>199472770
What does that have to do with your pseudo-religious doomsday theories? Shit happens.
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>>199472991

The ecosystem and the soil is degrading with all the pesticide we use. It's dying you stupid faggot and has everything to do with humans. This is a closed system faggot all the volcanoes around world release 1-2% of the CO2 we release every year from 36 gigatons if you brain can comprehend that number.

Maybe you should gas yourself, because there is no future for this species when people like you exist. You fucking snowflake called "humans". nobody cares about this species not even earth or the animals on this planet. If you destroy what supports you then you die too. makes sense? It's because you live in Norway and can't understand what's happening all around the world you stupid faggot.
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>>199474008
Your numbers about volcanoes and co2 are way off bud.
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>>199474008
>muh numbers
Too bad you're running statistical projections on a dataset that's so sparse your conclusion is bordering on completely random. That's being generous. Otherwise I'd be very worried and start paying my climate tithe.
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>>199461907
Why only the interval from 1997 to 2014?
Cherry pick much?
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>>199474236
Here you stupid faggot

"Add all of these up, and you get an estimate of around 645 million tons of CO2 per year. Yes, there are uncertainties; yes, there's annual variation; yes, it's easy to get led astray if you think that Mt. Etna is typical, rather than the unusually large emitter of CO2 that it is. When you realize that volcanism contributes 645 million tons of CO2 per year – and it becomes clearer if you write it as 0.645 billion tons of CO2 per year – compared to humanity's 29 billion tons per year, "

https://www.forbes.com/sites/startswithabang/2017/06/06/how-much-co2-does-a-single-volcano-emit/
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>>199474886
No one has proven more CO2 is a problem. No one has proven what CO2 levels have been before something like 50 years ago when we started recording it. No one knows, that's why your multi-billion dollar tithe industry is way premature.
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>>199474840
why only from 1970 to 2015? cherry pick much?
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>>199474886
You are fucking wrong. Forbes is a bunch of lying shill faggots, just like you.
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>>199465464
He’s referring to cloud seedng and similar projects not chemtrail /x/ bs
For example,Santa Barbara’s cloud seeding project

http://www.countyofsb.org/pwd/seeding.sbc

Governments have been working on weather modification projects for decades and there are tons of cloud seeding companies that perform contracted projects with your tax $ like Santa Barbara
http://www.weathermodification.com/
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>>199461907
It’s solar and it’s cyclical.
Dark matter is bullshit. We live in an electric universe
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>>199476667
Compare the sunspot cycle to the global temperature.
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>>199461907
Do your own research you fucking shitskin beaner.
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>>199464682
tits or gtfo
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>>199461907
It's all bullshit being peddled for nefarious purposes. Simply look at their previous predictions over the last 40-50 years and you'll see they were all completely wrong.
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>>199476667
Yep.
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>>199477251
Isn't the world like 8,000 years old?
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>>199461907
climate change is a myth that is perpetuated by the jews to terraform the planet to be colder, killing most whites by causing an ice age in the polar regions
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>>199476944
Why, it's almost as if the sun is heating the earth!
Truly fascinating stuff!
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>>199461907
There are real things we can do to minimize mankind's impact. We could plant trees in barren land, scour the oceans for plastics, and turn China and India into radioactive glass.
But the purpose of climate change politics is really about control. Its a scheme to give the zog the power over both production and consumption





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