Sooo the Doors "were CIA plants" and part of the MKULTRA-COINTELPRO "safety vent" or "pressure relief valve" that Woodstock was along with other events like Grateful Dead's concerts...Except they totally called that out, didn't participate & were basically the first punk act, real punk. The Doors and Jim Morrison in particular was the most harassed by law enforcement of any band at the time and his feelings of paranoia and persecution (exacerbated by a pending obscenity charge) contributed to his death in 1971 which has been described by some as an accident, a suicide or even murder>The most significant difference the Doors wanted their audience to be aware of was their disconnection from the San Francisco scene. They told as many people as possible that, musically and politically, they were not from Northern California and not part of the “love generation.” While they used some of the same musical ideas to write their songs, the Doors were not influenced by folk-rock, and Jim Morrison’s lyrics did not often encourage listeners to “feel good.” Listeners were more likely to call them “evil” than look to them for peace and love.>An album review in **the Washington Post** summarized the “recurring themes” in Morrison’s lyrics: “[He has a] fascination with evil, the love-hate-sex equation, anarchy within a rigid social structure, a love of the surreal and macabre.”56 Reporters and reviewers have used a rich vocabulary of dark adjectives to describe their sound. It was, at times, “satanic,” “unsettling,” “grotesque,” “scary,” or “dangerous.” These descriptions affected the band’s reception in particular segments of the counterculture. They were not invited to play any of the major festivals of the era.
“They were afraid of us,” Densmore recalled of the organizers of the 1967 Monterey Pop Festival in his 1990 autobiography. “We didn’t represent the attitude of the festival: peace and love and flower power. We represented the shadow side.” While his “flower-child half” really wanted to go to the festival, Densmore recalled, he was not able to attend because he was in “the demon Doors.”>Woodstock was a particularly thorny issue with Morrison. He drew a dark line between his artistic and political philosophy and the festival’s philosophy in two 1970 interviews. “The hippie lifestyle is really a middle-class phenomenon,” he told interviewer Tony Thomas in May, “and it could not exist in any other society except ours, where there’s this incredible surfeit of goods, products, and leisure time.” While preceding generations had struggled with depression and war, the sixties offered “money enough to live a kind of a flagrant, outrageous lifestyle.”58 He was even less equivocal in an October interview with ZigZag magazine interviewer John Tobler. “It seemed like a bunch of young parasites, being kind of spoon-fed this three or four days of … well, you know what I mean.” While he conceded that his statements were probably “sour grapes,” he said that the audience at Woodstock was “not what they pretend to be, some free celebration of a young culture.” Morrison further attacked their call for a “sudden, miraculous revolution,” saying that it “would be unreal to me.… You have to be in a constant state of revolution, or you’re dead.”59 The Doors’ message was completely incompatible with Woodstock, according to Morrison, and hippies were bourgeois twits, at best.
>>521196674>>521196681They were more metal than hippy. Jim Morrison's ego was too strong for even the glowniggers to control. He controlled the glowies, as the Lizard King.
Jim Morrison's dad was Admiral George Morrison. The guy in charge of the imaginary Gulf of Tonkin incident, which immediately led to the Vietnam war.
>>521196674Wasn't Jim Morrison's dad the spook that was flying in LSD to woodstock? All those "counter-culture" musicians are family of military intelligence and general spookery, many of them operating out of Laurel Canyon where they had that remote military base.
rush limbaugh lived long into his senior years, OP
>>521196978If the world got Dave McGowan-pilled, we wouldn't be in such a mess.God bless Dave.
>>521196832>as the Lizard King.i think that has more to do with "muh reptile brain" and that on LSD you sometimes get this trippy effect where your iris and pupils look cat-like or lizard-like along with your whole face shape which may look a little elongated, probably aided by the dehydration and what notI think Morrison was kinda aiming for that sort of look in the album cover of their debut albumI wouldn't associate it with muh illuminarty/glowniggers, that's far-fetched.But otherwise yeah you're right, the very idea of the Doors as "controlled" is idiotic, even his bandmates couldn't control JimLet's not forget his longest attachment to LSD was for like 6 months in 1965? And then he stopped. And then he turned to drinking...
>>521196681Guy was a genius by just this insight alone. Heroin was probably some relief from having to deal with hypocritical dumbass humans.
>>521196674Well, the CIA never had any idea what they were actually doing, so it fits... :)
>>521197150His daughter maintains a website with most of his writing. centerforaninformedamerica.com. 'CIA', get it?
The Doors were part of the Laurel Canyon glowop incubator with ties to the CIA and DoD.https://www.jimcarrollsblog.com/blog/2021/9/2/the-truth-doesnt-rhyme-laurel-canyon-and-the-characteristics-of-a-creative-community
>>521197320https://centerforaninformedamerica.com/laurelcanyon/
>>521196674this may surprise you but alot of people fucking hated hippies even back then most realised that they were privileged lefty faggots that cared more about smoking pot and supporting commies while impoverished niggers and trailer trash died in the vietnam even the velvet underground hated hippies
>>521197309That was Dave's website. He said the only way to get rid of CIA is to replace them with his "CIA" of The People.His newsletters on that website are gold. I recommend his coverage of Cheney shooting Whittington, or his coverage of the DC Sniper.
>>521197427This is worth a whole read guys. It's fascinating shit and absolute /pol/core.
I prefer The Stranglers
>>521196674The Doors created a style of music that was a blend of pop, the blues, psychedelic, folk and they developed this style organically playing in clubs. The audience laughed at the Doors when they first saw them, no one took them seriously. Jim often could not face the audience because he knew they would just snicker at him. When they finally got an album made and got radio airplay, their first tour was with Simon and Garfunkel was a total disaster, the audience hated the Doors and thought Jim was just hostile and antisocial. tl:dr OP is a zoomer who simply doos not understand the Doors, he does not know their background, he does not know what their influences are. So he just projects his feeble analysis which is all out of his ass. Saying that Doors music is CIA music is just an example of how numb minded zoomers are to real history and how everything is just a meme or made up bullshit that fits their feeble minds
>>521196977>Jim Morrison's dad>>521196978>Jim Morrison's dadand?this is just trivia really, giving some context to Jim's rebellionyou're really not saying anything new, he basically kicked himself out as he couldn't stand the atmosphere at home (Jim's dad wanted him to be an officer like he was) and went off to pursue a bullshit degree at a film school, which he then dropped out of... so to his family he was as good as dead, he was a hobo, a dead-end, a black sheepJim for his part made sure to troll everyone he met after going his own way by saying that his parents were dead, whenever the subject of parents/home came up. That was in line with the Nietzschean philosophy of detaching from your ingrained background and rising above it, being truly yourself and true to oneself. Rebellion and true liberation, without succumbing to the Slave mentality that is precisely defined by Nietzsche as trying to trivially assume the role of the toppled abusive Master--so he eschewed the scheme altogether
As I remember 3 jews and a goy started woodstock and pissed off everyone in the town.Looks like the boomer hippies are still rich and privileged.
>>521197443the hippies were hated by the "silent majority" i.e. people who elected Nixon in 1968 and 1972 and could not in the slightest sense be described as being anti-establishment, anti-glowniggers or truly rebellious, I mean what are we even arguing about, this was Nixon's campaign song in 1972:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cp_2embNSfQ
Morrison seemed like the OG San Francisco hipster faggot imo.
>>521197614Yeah, I'm sure it was just a cohencidence. Just like that Westpoint graduate, David Van Cortlandt Crosby.
>>521197520YouTube McGowan interviews:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3ewGJt9cFshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TStHHl94gM
>>521197731zoomers here have no idea what hippies are, they would do well to just watch a documentary on Haight Ashbury instead of just making up bullshit out of their headhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNF4Pnewklk
>>521197738Indeed. CIA record companies wouldn't lie to us. Remember the Copeland family?
>>521197735he was an LA hipstera more modern equivalent of his genius isn't that faggot cobain either lol more like a fail-copycati'd say this is:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYv5kncvhhY>Ice Cube - No Vaseline (1991)>Used to be my homie, now you act like you don't know me>It's a case of divide and conquer>'Cause you let a Jew break up my crew>House nigga gotta run and hide>Yelling Compton, but you moved to Riverside>'Cause you can't be the Nigga 4 Life crew>With a white Jew telling you what to do
>>521197575i'm not saying the Doors were CIA lmao you illiterate fucktard, i'm saying they weren't and you didn't bother to read so fuck you
>>521198304Wait, why do you think Morrison was CIA? Wouldn't he have more likely been DIA or ONI?
>The Doors articulated a unique political vision that supported personal politics and mass resistance while remaining critical of the main currents of countercultural thought. The band’s name signaled the foundation of Morrison’s political ideas. Drawn from Aldous Huxley’s The Doors of Perception (1954), Morrison explained that “The Doors are what’s between the known and the unknown.”62 The “unknown” played a significant role for the band. In a 1970 interview, for example, Creem magazine correspondent Lizze James claimed that fans of the band saw Morrison as “a savior, the leader who’ll set them all free.” Morrison found the idea “absurd.” “I think it’s a lie,” he told James, “everybody insists that freedom is what they want the most…. But that’s bullshit!” Instead, he argued, “people resist freedom because they’re afraid of the unknown.” The only way they could really be free, he argued, was to face “the greatest fear imaginable”—the unknown, in other words—in order to “be what you really are.” Political revolution is impossible “until there’s a personal revolution, on an individual level,” Morrison maintained: “It’s got to happen inside first.”63 While Morrison rejected the type of radical political freedom associated with mass politics and the New Left, his focus on personal politics mirrored the consciousness-raising methods pioneered by second-wave feminismbased Doorshonestly I see a lot of overlap with Kaczynskian thought
>>521198543yeah that meme is really dumb on the technical level too, given that, although MKULTRA was CIA, on the other hand COINTELPRO was FBI. and while MKULTRA was involved with localized LSD experiments, it was COINTELPRO that was all about setting up fake movements and agents-provocateurs all around
>>5211966744chan's favorite band
>>521196674they inspired Mazzy Star, another psychedelic rock band that doesn't dickride the music record monopoly. This kills the jew.
>The band took an unequivocal stance against the Vietnam War. The 1968 song “The Unknown Soldier” uses the war to address the core themes of fear and personal liberation. The song begins with a subdued tone; Morrison takes the role of a narrator oppressed by the conflict. “Wait until the war is over,” he advises the listener, “and we’re both a little older.” This subdued tone gives way to a darkly surreal groove after an abrupt time change and Morrison narrates images of war broadcast on the news: “breakfast where the news is read,” he sings, “television children fed / Bullet strikes the helmet’s head.” After the eponymous Unknown Soldier is “executed” in a dramatic martial interlude, the song repeats the subdued tone. “Make a grave for the unknown soldier / Nestled in your hollow shoulder,” Morrison nearly whispers over the ethereal organ before repeating the chorus and taking the song out in a triumphant cacophony with cheering crowds and shouts of joy. The dramatic confrontation with fear and pain—indeed, the death of the “unknown”—in the song leads the listener to a climax of ecstatic release.>The band resisted war on several fronts. Youth formed the ideological center of their opposition from an early date. They took a stand against the militarization of children in a benefit show for the “No War Toys” organization in 1966, months before the release of their debut album.64 Morrison—the son of a Navy admiral—made his position clear in a 1970 interview on CBC radio. Young people were “the ones that always fight the wars,” he told the interviewer: “they’re the human fodder for the war machine. There just seems to be no way around it; there’s just no cause.” Touching on some of the themes in “The Unknown Soldier,” Morrison explained that war on television was “a great drama, life and death right there, a struggle.” There's a reason they used Fortunate Son in Forrest Gump & not that...
>The “glamour” of war “infected” Americans from youth, he explained: “with little kids running around playing war, playing cowboys and Indians or whatever … somehow it’s just ingrained in you from the beginning that there’s something heroic, proving yourself in the battle.” Ultimately, Morrison believed, “you have to entertain these utopian concepts that life could work without all that struggle.”65>While the Doors took a stance against the Vietnam War and in favor of personal liberation, Morrison was critical of some of the more “revolutionary” modes of sixties political activism. “Tell All the People,” for example, was the first Doors song published under an individual songwriting credit. Krieger’s lyrics contained the lines “get your guns / the time has come / to follow me down.” Morrison demurred. “I don’t want people getting their guns and following me,” he told Krieger. “I’m not leading a violent revolution or anything.” He refused to put his name on the song.66 Morrison was often deeply ambivalent about politics, focused more on personal expression. In the 1967 Harvard Crimson interview, for example, he argued, “if you’re into politics, then it’s real for you. If you’re not, then it doesn’t really exist, you know?” Despite the band’s clear antiwar message, Morrison applied the same philosophy to Vietnam: “The war doesn’t exist except for the soldiers and people involved directly with the war. Like I don’t believe there is a war.”6Tldr: he was calling the Vietnam War a fake&gay masquerade keeping NPCs stuck fast asleep in a fake struggle between false warfighters & false rebelsPrefering to be, instead, one of the first to say "wake up sheeple" and I have a really good essay from Uncle Ted that expounds upon this very theme of "the system's neatest trick"And that's the title: The System's Neatest Trick by Ted Kaczynski (2002)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAO1CRcRe4U
>>521200022>>521199814Morrison would love RPGs, JRPGs, and PC strategy games if he was a millennial. He just never grew up with the right toys. Nigga hated army toys because that's what he played with all his young age moving from base to base. Can you imagine how annoying that shit was for a little kid? No cars or boy scouts or anything adventurous. Fucking army toys.
>>521196674doors werent ciathe byrds were ciaand yea, morrisson is why the stooges happened, so why punk happened
>>521200545i hope i have put that retarded zoomie-made pasta to eternal sleep with this thread
>>521197095actually, he died back in the 90's
>>521199294>“It’s got to happen inside first.”Yeah, of course, because he was a front man for drug trafficking and human psychological experimentation. >>521199294>based Doors?
>>521200968he wasn't big on weed, he stopped doing LSD by 1966 (smart people come to that realization with psychedelics--that there can be too much of a good thing) and died as a result of alcoholism combined with an accidental/premeditated heroin overdose, and if premeditated it's debated whether he premeditated it or Pam Courson did with her drug dealing French "friend"totally a front for drug trafficking. man, a walking advertisement
>>521197614>just trivia really>Nietzschean philosophy of detaching
>>521200672ppl were saying the doors were cia?thats dumb. they were too outsider for the outsiders. hippies would just catch "bad vibes" (read: literal LSD induced cianigger programming) at their shows and leavebut all the guys that "got it"? they got itthats why the stooges and MC5 happened in the late 60s instead of the late 70s when punk was supposed to happen
>>521196674I think they jus wanted to be their own thing so they went the other wayThey sound like an early blues rock version of a jam band and their live stuff is still fun to listen to. Is some of it a lil bit corny ya maybe, but other stuff of theirs makes up for it
>>521199294>Drawn from Aldous Huxley’So a fabian societal engineering freak?
>>521201310bro do you even The Perennial Philosophy
>>521200022>Like I don’t believe there is a war>LikeThe proto-hipster. He would if he didn't have a glownigger father and was forced to be cannon fodder as his idol Huxley envisioned for people without ties to the machine. Imagine reading Huxley for his opinions and his faggy tale of mescaline and not a look into the dystopian hellscape he has envisioned knowing that it is what him and the rest of his parasite class scheme to make a reality. This false idol is making a product and pseudo-experience of personal liberation, truly pathetic.
>>521201306>cornyspit it outalso which band has 0 bad stuff out thereas far as bands go the Doors are nearly flawless, I don't know of any other band that released both a 10/10 perfect debut album and a 10/10 follow up album within barely a few months of each other
>>521201514You mean the proto UN uniterian prayer room adorned with a little black cube... fuck off UNESCO shill.
>>521201310everyone was reading huxley retard it was the 60s>>521201306>they went the other waythats the thing thothey actually went the typical LA way. the sanfran flower power stuff was ALWAYS looked down on by the LA freak scene. LA was much more rock, and much much less folk. think like loves first album. thats just how it was around there.the folkrock stuff migrated down from the gay area, after all of those guys got signed and paid way more (because the bay area was the ACTUAL cia hotspot). but LA in the 60s? wasnt ever rly like that. so neither were the doors.
>>521201559>He would if he didn't have a glownigger father and was forced to be cannon fodderhis dad wanted him to become a military man, dumbasspeople with industry contracts signed like Morrison were exempt from draft, as was, whaddaya know, John Wayne!(John Wayne really, really wanted to go to war tho, sadly Republic Pictures ultimately threatened to sue were he not to fulfill the terms of his contract)
>>521201615guess you're just not /lit/-pilledand that means you're not Guenon (Zutt Be Upon Him) pilledcringe
>>521201654>everyoneAnd most people are gullible mouth breather? Your point? He is espousing a parasite as his inspiration instead of reading brave new world and realizing this is someone not for the common good.>>521201756Imagine falling for someone propping up theosophical society and Helena Blavatsky.
>>521201703You are shameless or a fucking retard.
>>521196674They are literally managed by jews
>>521201888embarrassing>No, Aldous Huxley was not a theosophist, though he was familiar with and critical of Theosophy. He rejected its more literal claims but found its underlying principle—that all religions share a common, universal truth—to be valid, an idea he explored in his book The Perennial Philosophy. He associated more with Hinduism, especially through the Vedanta Society of Southern California, and explored mystical and psychedelic experiences later in his lifeby the way, I recommend Advaita Vedanta by the one and only Adi Śankara (PBUH)I spent a lot of time in my youth figuring out the connections between Śankara and Plato and trust me, that interconnection is the key to the very Mystery of Life
>>521201981wait till you hear about the Founding Fathers kek, your whole shithole was a freemasonic experiment to begin withthat doesn't make what I wrote any less true, artists bound contractually are factually exempt from draft, and that is that
>>521202058who isn't? who wasn't?they had written most of their lyrics and music before an Elektra scout discovered them at the Whisky a Go Go and signed them up, at least as far as their first two (and perfect) albums go which were pretty much entirely readymade material
>>521201888>He is espousing a parasite as his inspirationnoyoure retardedhe used it for a fucking band name. cuz he read the fucking book. thats what ppl used to do back then. they read fucking books.now were there some hippy retards whod read certain books and make it their whole identity afterwards? definitely. thats how that whole fucking mid-60s indiaboo bullshit happened. but thats not what happened here. jim and the boys was just trying to make edgy dark art to reflect the unironically dark time that they saw as being covered up by the hippydippy nonsense. and they were right to do that. we now KNOW in retrospect that the hippy movement was manufactured bullshit.the doors problem was that they were a tad early to be doing that, so every retard and their mother thought they were trying to summon satan lolnah tho they were just trying to rockand they did. too hard for kooks like you, apparently>>521202664you dont like fat jim era?LA women was a record we always put on at the end of punk gigsi remember we had a theory that LA women was the prequel to LA by X and that ray was playing some sort of long con lolhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKp1TjP__rg
heres a gud band to trip ppl out on opiethe monarch iconography alone will have schizos in a manic state, nvm the fucking lyrics lol.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yphAMAUN5Dobut again. not cia. just another LA band (a rly rly gud one too) being aggressively weird. the guy who joined to play tambourine and write edgy lyrics was some like late 30s richfag with record label connections who just wanted to bang underagb&. and the band itself had been getting nowhere being instrumental, so they let him in lol. and even by 60s freak scene standards, they all thought he was a fucking creep and had to kick him out eventually lol
