It's over for nvidia
Already priced in
the face saving from chinks is always very amusing, but i don't understand why Putin and Xi insist on petty shit with trump that only causes them problems
china knows that AI is a huge jewish scam
Blumpf trying to tie an export tax/tariff to it meant it was never serious, that's directly unconstitutional and would have been shot down immediately
>>523202718KEK>>523202767COPE>>>523202783tpbp
>>523202783its the future retard
>>523202898lol
>>523202783This China sees AI as a toy and nothing else.Because most of their economy is based on labor like manufacturing and farming or phd level science which AI cannot replace.The niche that AI replaces in the US simply never existed in china so it was never a threat.
>>523202664 China only letting public funding be used on domestic chips, which in turn ensures public money funds domestic jobs & innovation, while we give billions in contracts to tech companies who are laying off US engineers & offshoring their jobs to benefit only investors. This betrayal by the private sector of domestic industry & workforce not only lowers morale, but is also the impetus behind the public’s opposition to data centers. No one wants to keep supporting companies that are quick to abandon the US & its workers when it’s financially expedient to do so.
>>523202898hahahahahha its a fucking llms with bunch of text in it its nothing
>>523202664> Buy our chips which are essential for the functioning of your economy and we can arbitrarily withhold from you for leverage> Build your own Hmmmm
>>523202664Can't wait to fire up my first Harmony OS PC. Fuck judeo-America.
>>523202664Scarcity creates opportunity. Once they have their own it's over
>>523202767I can't fathom why China wouldnt want another country manufacturing all of the high end electronics they rely on. Real single brain cell behavior to make things inside your own country.
>>5232028985/10 bait
>>523202898lmao nigga its a chatbot with extra steps shut the fuck up.
>>523202767It's not face saving they're trying to make sure they can manufacture their own critical infrastructure.
>>523203083>>523203061>>523202985chatbot is what you get to use retardstop companies have much better internal models
>>523202664>In the news today Nvidia says please do this to defeat China>Next day: China doesn't allow you to do thing you said would defeat it
>please take our AIslop chips with hardware level glownigger backdoors >noChina wonAgain
>>523202664why does the logo for a semiconductor company have occult symbolism
>>523202950>quick to abandon the US & its workers when it’s financially expedient to do soThat's how america works, everyone has that brain. You say those people don't want to support it. Those are the same people that bulk buy playstations and and toilet roll, anything they can to profit on, those are the same people that tell the hot dog vendor "I'm not paying no 5 bucks for a mother fucking hot dog hmmm hmmm, I can buy a can of em y'all for 2.50"
>>523202664>im crashing the american AI bubble>WITH NO SURVIVORS
>>523202783They are basically crippling nvidia's stock price by refusing to buy LOL. Economic crash now?
The bubble is already bursting. Jensen, Altman, and all these AI fags are haphazardly trying to hide it. They can't keep it hidden for too long. We no longer have the capital to fund anything. We're letting the Saudis fund and bail us out. We lost. It's over.
>>523202898AI is only good for midwit duties as "general intelligence" which suits the US perfectly because they're lacking in intelligence.
The US trying to play the same game with China that China played and succeeded with in the US is peak hubris. China invented this model in the 1970s and had Nixon and Kissinger implement it. They're not stupid enough to fall for their own trick.
ching chong wing wong
>>523202664magapedes keep debasing themselves to China and China is no longer having any of it kek how humiliating
>>523202718lolSeems pretty obvious you got played.
BASED XI!!! CRASH NGREEDIA AND CRASH THE WHOLE SILICON WAFER MARKET!!! GLORIOUS READER!!!! I WANT TO BUY A GAMING PEEE CEEEEE
>>523202783Considering they're working on the AI arms race too, this is doubtful. It's more likely that this is because it's open knowledge we put hardware backdoors in all our fucking chips.
>>523202664Hmmm if you remove the 'V' from Nvidia and shuffle the letters you get "India". I don't blame the Changs for not buying and using their adversaries spyware.It's a full blown JEET company
>>523203150>top companies have much better internal modelsThis. I'm so sick of people thinking LLM's and diffusion models are the be-all-end-all of AI just because that's what they get to play with on their fucking phones.
holy shit holy shit sars they have better models of dem silly cats going on wacky adventures now as holograms!!! sars AI is the future stupid benchod bitch integrate it into everything!!!
>>523202941>Because most of their economy is based on labor like manufacturing and farming or phd level science which AI cannot replace.We know you niggers like communism because of gibs and no work free meth. But you see China is capitalist economy, controlled but very much capitalist. And what capitalist don't like is having to spend companies on salaries.
>>523202664I sold at $208 so good luck to everyone else, Im happy with how I did
>>523202783you obviously haven't seen the porn it can make
>>523202664NVidia products have american (jewish) spyware on them. They'll make their own.
>>523202985You have no fucking idead what are you talking about retard.Modern AI models are mult modal meaning they are trained on raw data and not just text: video, 3d objects, real time spatial data. They truly are starting to understand real world.
>>523202898That future is a very long time from now and is going to require many breakthroughs in multiple fields. None of the current LLM techniques are going to get us remotely close to anything that can be considered "general" intelligence and even the researchers are admitting this now. Whenever we get there hardware will probably be completely different as well.
>>523204544>understandlol no
>>523203589>trusting US AI grifter coorporations about AI war you must win vs China while in reality China released whole of Deepseek for free to everyoneThis was about cloud based mandatory monthly subscription servicesAI is just a pipper leading you to it.
is this the art of the deal?
>>523202664good. nothing of quality comes from this shithole
>>523202664>he fell for the ai scam
>>523202898>Space elevators are the future>And we already have elevators>So you better invest in elevators chump
>>523202664so all the nvidia GPUs have backdoors now, eh?
2 more weeks.AI doubters are by far the lowest IQ apes on the planet. Its not even close. Your tiny snipped dick is sending retard signals to your nigger brain that keeps you stupid or something. You ignore how far its already come in 2 years. You're too stupid to understand how much its improved for coding alone. Your only exposure to it is youtube shorts because thats as far as your lazy ass brain takes you.The only thing its waiting for is energy and chips. Theres an insane demand for both, but you must also be too fucking stupid to see that in how everything related to that has more than quadrupled in price over the past 2 years. You think all this is going to magically fade away? You will fade away before that happens, literally. You will be the ones crying to the government for assistance because no one will need your chimp nigger brains for anything. Not my problem. Im happy you guys will stay poor and stupid.-t. already made it using AI. Making millions helping companies replace their worthless niggers with AI powered productivity.
>>523202783>deepseeks a dick in your butt
>>523205736>You're too stupid to understand how much its improved for coding alone.Coding WHAT? What code in what place has improved since 2010?
>>523202664they know the americans (jews) like to put in backdoors into all their hardware, just like the chinks do. they're just in the comfy position not to need any foreign tech.
>>523202664> To spite your enemy, don't import his microchips, even though you need themt. Sun Tzu
>>523205895The simplest things. Companies still do shit like pass each other excel files full of garbage data. They still pay people to manually go through data. You can get AI to create a program for just a one time use case depending on that data. It'll create the python code in minutes, vs paying a retard a 40 hour work week to figure it out. Just one tiny example. Its an endless gold mine. Im blown away how far behind the average retard is on these things but its a gold mine for people with IQ above fortnite.
bye now, stay stupid kids. It makes things less competitive for me.
>>523202664Wonder how much Chinese gpu are on temu. If they're affordable I might upgrade but I pretty much only play indie games anyway so I probably never need to
Whew. There's a leader with confidence in the citizens Communism produces.Trump? Insults Americans and says he needs more foreigners.
>>523206378So what happens when all of that low-level white collar work is all programmed out. What then?
>>523203052America and Europe are okay with China having complete control over their rare earths.
>>523206207They clearly don t need them.
>>523203589Marxists believe that automation increases production, but decreases profits, and will lead to the end of capitalism
>>523202664holy based
chinese rtx 5090 level gpus at £800 when?
Yeah they're paranoid we're going to spy on them the same way they've been spying on us lol.China becoming more insular, millions of middle class chinese slipping back into poverty right now. They're ripping each off in china trying to stay afloat atop the bodies of their fellow chinese who didn't make it.
>>523206655They are also okay with Israel having complete control over national policy
>>523202783It's not like China has no investment in AI. It's just not a retarded hype bubble driven by a handful of companies that simply can't deliver unless they get lucky.
>>523202664lmao, based Pooh Bear looking chad.
I'd imagine they see it as a security and optics issueAlso haven't they made GPUs 80% as good as nvidia latest tech? That's pretty impressive for a few years
>>523206378>Guys AI will totally be able to do these things just give it two more weeksWhen the bubble pops I hope you kill yourself
China is already building their own chips under their own architecture. They know this is just NVIDIA trying to destroy their domestic chip production and lock them into the CUDA architecture.
>>523206857It's wise to put a foot in, since like nukes if it works it's a gamechanger tech, but banking your entire country on it is something you would only do if you had literally no other option and are going to collapse without it.
>>523202783jews are using AI to scam. AI itself is not a scam
>>523207062It's more than just a foot in. Chinese HRMs give impressive results with a miniscule fraction of the compute. It's really easy to race if the other contestants are just being retarded.
>>523206813Never claimed it was a good idea
>>523203150>top companies have much better internal modelswow. so cool. agi is right beyond the next turn and it will save the world. there's no ai grift at all.
>>523206986If Nvidia was smart they would do exactly what China used to secure its own manufacturing and sell off stock to raise money while dumping their chips, selling them at a loss to price out any Chinese chips. Nvidia's overvalued as hell anyway and selling stock to raise money for future expansion and market control is seen as bullish anyway.
>>523202664>No more Jewvidia GPUsDo they still allow Intel CPUs? Because they're still totally fucked by Mossad if they do.
>>523207329Yeah, it's just a foot in, as the chinks entire economy doesn't hinge on AI becoming AGI overnight, and if it turns out to be a dud nothing will change for them.
>>523202664So how this works ?/pol/ told me China can't make chips and they depend on AmericaSo either>A) China has their own chips that are just as good>B) China decided they don't need computersI'm thinking A
>>523202783shut up and buy rAbbI stonks t. kike
>>523207505Comparatively, yes. If you're not comparing to others, not. They're putting in an appropriate amount of effort.
>>523207583/pol/ is stupid and thinks China is some sort of under dog against the evil Americans. Fact is America lost to China by the mid 2010s. As it stands today any American power exists with China's implicit permission.
>>523202664China is so fucking based.Its honestly unfair.
>>523207583What choice do they have? The chips are all compromised
>>523207583They have their own GPUs made exclusively for AI technology. They don't have any good consumer GPU drivers like Nvidia and AMD have, but those aren't needed for running LLMs.
>>523207827Isn't AI GPU more advanced than consumer ? Like you know how to make a TV but you can't make a radio ?
>>523205736>shitposting on /pol/nigger if you did that you would have 0 incentive to defend the wrongviewbut you are just dumbnigger with his shekels per post not per content
>>523202664>H200>In 2026 (almost)Lol, those are deprecated as fuck. China wants either the latest shit, or keep developing their own chips. Nvidia's moat is shrinking fast.
>>523207649That's what putting a foot in it means anon, Enough effort to pursue it seriously, but not enough funding it that if it fails you have to chop off an arm>Comparing to othersWell the only other left to compare is the US, since everyone is pre-occupied with other things or too poor to be spending on current vaporware
>>523202718Doubt.
>>523208001Yes, but Chinese aren't really bad at physical engineering when they put their best minds to it. They suck at making drivers and other code however. But that doesn't matter for their own usage needs. They know their gaming population can make do with NV/AMD GPUs with drivers for PC, that's a tiny overall market to them. Chinese are shrewd and people thinking they aren't is their biggest blobal power.
>>523204632It can replace like 90% of americas fake jobs though because all those people ever did was spout bullshit. AI can do that much faster and much cheaper. America the land of people serving each other foods massages paperwork and PowerPoints. Good riddance useless bullshit people.
>>523203589>china shits out a as good open source "AI" ever so often for peanuts crashing the Stockmarket in the US for three fiddy>"oooohhh US you should invest even more in Goonslop machien that work for free or uh, I will make SUPER AI oooOoooOooOO come on Amelican"
>>523206378What model do you use all the ones I try are completely retarded when it comes to anything involving a spreadsheet or computations.
>>523208250>don't dump Nvidia stock until after we do!
>>523208250>/biz/ right now
>>523208290Unless you work a trade, or in some form of physical maintenance, you don't have an actual job, you're at best a servant and if you're white collar/coding you're just in adult daycare where you basically play with finger paints and arts and crafts all day.
>>523208290Those jobs could be replaced by literal cardboard cut outs you don't need the AI for it, it's named jew daycare for a reason.
>>523208250Extremely trustworthy face.
>>523208067I'm going to root this in reality a little bit to avoid going in circles. 100 billion USD a year is more than half of Russian military spending.Where you're right is that for China it's 70 dollars per citizen each year, which isn't devastating if there's no return, but come on now.
>>523202664Fucking kek
>>523203086Lmao, they do that by making deals and using back channels to reverse engineer tech. This is just CCP putting on a show. Retards think Trump is the only showman and forget that Xi is massive diva who also loves to bullshit for clout.
>>523208250JIMMAYYY
>>523207583No their chips aren't as good they are much worse BUT they are good enough right now and when they get booted up to speed will be making their own Nvidias.
>>523202767China would simply rather reverse engineer Nvidia gpu's and build their own.
>>523208780What i'm trying to pass thru is that 100 billion $ is a lot of money yeah, but since only the US is in the race, you can only compare those 100 billion to their investment, which is as i said, just putting a foot in.>inb4 what about the EU, Russia and Indialole
>>523195266>>523202664>Migatranny>Mario Nawfal>FinancialMutt>China saysJust like in your other shill thread This is just Amerimutt cope beceause China has a more free market than Muttland and nobody has to buy Amerimutt state backed nvidia and amd monopoly shit
>>523202767Politics is theatre. Always been
>>523209084I know what you're saying. I'm saying that those words give an incorrect picture.
>>523207583>C) This is a glownigger samefag (including you) shill thread astroturfing Amerimutt state run media fakenews from Twitter
>>523204089Ohhhhh yes I have. Lost a few days of my life, then uninstalled everything and deleted the pics. The tech makes degeneracy too accessible, and people are just people.
>>523202718kek
>>523202898just two more data centers bro trust me we’re almost there bro
>>523202664>It's over for nvidiaGood.
Do they refuse to accept them, or did Xi put restrictions on their use?That's not the same thing. If the chinese don't want the chips then the restrictions are pointless. If they want them but have restrictions, then they want nVidia's chips but can't have them.
>>523206207Huawei has just begun mass-producing 7nm chips and native PCs that utilize them.
>>523209042>China would simply rather reverse engineer Nvidia gpuThose Nvidia GPUs are designed by engineers in China, thats why your orange nigger had to roll back Amerimutt sanctions on chips on the same day he announced them because it turned out nvidia outsourced not just the production but also the design of H series chips to offices in ChinaMuts dont create shit, they cheat lie and manage what they steal
>>523202783they just want their own source of chips and dont want to rely on an outside company for it. if they take taiwan it'll no longer matter though.
>>523209977What they want at this moment is strategic independence in every possible industry. This became their highest priority after the sanctions on Russia in 2022.
>>523209696>Do they refuse to accept them, or did Xi put restrictions on their useThe source of the story is a Biritsh-American propaganda rag pumping out daily China collapse hoaxes for the past 10 years claiming an anonymous source told them that China government allegedly has intention to do that.So the question becomes: Do Angle-Amerikikes want the goyim to believe that "American" chips are getting replaced and losing market share to competitive Chinese ichips or would they rather want you to believe China wants and needs them but unfairly ban and restrict them like Amerimutts do all the time with Chinese products like Huawei, DJI and Chinese electric cars
>>523202664They're smart enough to know a local market will never rise if they keep the markets flooded with better stuff from elsewhere.This will encourage companies to use Chinese-made hardware, which will increase profits.
>>523209770European peoples are pretty stupid and worthless these days. We don't even make classical music anymore, Asians took that over. I can't even think of a single useful thing we make anymore. The only thing we're really good at is killing. But only American whites are good at killing, European whites can't kill for shit.
>>523202898>ach-tually the future is burning morbillions of dollars in the hopes of creating AGI>no, we won't have a way of actually forcing an intelligent digital entity with free will to do want our investors want>yes, we could achieve the same degree of "automatization" for a fraction of the cost by investing in a mix of traditional robotics and outsourcing labour to freely available AI (actually indians) biorobotsHow come the whole financial world went insane after 2019?
>>523202664They probably know that their chips are backdoored to hell and back.
>>523207460price is getting gouged to hell.pretty much have a monopolydemand vastly outweighs supply>4chan 5 head>just sell them cheapanon, for your own safety do not ever go into business.
