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THEY JUST SHUT TODD AND CLARE DOWN!

>>What is toddandclare.com?

T&C is a fake dating site linked to to Premise Data, a tech company with many ties to Washington. 3/4 of the directors have been to the White House several times, one, Larry Summers, was a lead economic advisor for Obama. Larry Summers is also part of American Progress, which is led by Neera Tanden, a self-reported "loyal soldier" of Clinton. The CEO David Soloff is also tied to Clinton.

>>Links:

toddandclare.com SINCE SHUT DOWN

http://www.premise.com/ourteam/

https://www.americanprogress.org/about/mission/

We're on to something, boys! They've started shutting it down!
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>>93822216
Justice bump
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>>93822326
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Bump.
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I've researched this since yesterday and I am putting together a Case Against Scott Drotar infographic.

I will post it within the hour.
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SHUT IT DOWN
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>>93822216

T&D steals pictures across the web and uses them (identity theft?) to create false accounts as pedobait.

>>What we need to do

Investigate the link between Premise Data and Washington.

Find anyone involved in the KATIA Project (a fake sex offender recognition system that would probably have been "implemented" against Julian Assange)

https://www.kikebook.com/katiaproject

http://www.wikihow.com/Run-a-Rape-Screen-with-KATIA

See where the money trail goes, gents.
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>>93822216
Some bants shortly before David Soloff made his account private.
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>>93824040
>drones all the redditors
Maybe he's not such a bad guy after all?
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>>93822216
https://www.change.org/p/u-s-house-of-representatives-require-sex-offenders-to-report-their-social-networking-accounts

Who is Scott Drotar? The one who set up the KATIA Project. The KATIA Project seemingly has no ties other than with Scott Drotar.

https://www.kikebook.com/RollModelsProgram/

https://www.change.org/u/502585667
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>>93825384
More info on Scott Drotar...

Phone #: (574) 210-4076

Email: rollmodels@scottdrotar.com

Website: http://www.scottdrotar.com/
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Scott has been extensively researched. He is real. Most people's conclusions is that he is gullible and got approached by the TandC/Katia people. He was probably just fooled, not part of the scam/plot. However, some of the online activity in his name is slightly suspicious and he went offline may 2016.
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Please give this a read and tell me what you guys think.

Either way it's worth contacting Scott to see what he has to say about all this.
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>>93827781
jesus christ
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>>93828452
What did you mean by that?
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>>93827781
Not bad/10
Saved
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>>93827781
Nice infographic

Hmm.. I think the ppl behind ToddandClare have proven themselves to be weird fcukers, so it wouldn't surprise me if they mentioned Sheypuk because they knew she was popular with Scott.

I think Scott must have known at least if he didnt get his degrees out of pity that Katia was a hoax/nonsense, so they perhaps appealed to his sexual frustration, and he was so tempted by cooperating with a dating site that he didn't care.

This is just speculation though, Scott be a more important clue as you suggest.

I checked wayback machine and the earliest mention of Katia on his website, at least as a header is march 5 2016. What is the earliest contact point we can find btw Scott and the "Hammonds"?

He has no activity after may 2016.
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>>93827781
Just found something really fucked up, big lead. Making info graph now.
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GET THIS INFORMATION TO EVERY NEWS MEDIA OUTLET ON THE PLANET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>93829482
>earliest contact

I'm researching that right now. The tweet to Sheypyuck was in January, Katia went on until May. If he was behind the Sheypuck tweet (how else would a random dating site know about this obscure woman?) then he was employed for at least 5 months.

But it's a tough question to answer. I'm trying to find an answer as it will suggest how involved he was.

>>93829736
We need answers first. No point sending incomplete info. Also we just need to go to Assange with this.
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Hillary is the only candidate who has experience in pinning pedo stories on someone as an excuse to burn dozens of people alive.
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Bump, I just noticed as well that it had gone offline. We need to get to the bottom of this. This could be huge blow to the HRC campaign if we figure out that they were behind the accusations.
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>>93824040
He was probably telling the truth.

One of the federal faggots crashed his drone spying around last weekend, had the bright idea to ask me if I saw where it crashed.

Anyway Im gonna go start a fire in the fireplace to warm up, just got back from a pretty bad day on the lake. My pontoon capsized and I am unsure of what cargo was misplaced.
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>>93822216
So that his death will not be in vain
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>>93827781
In the same vein as Britbro who makes good infographs. It seems that toddandclare.com is only one of potentially multiple shell companies/honey pots. Todd and Clare is also linked to Vent On Demand.

http://www.ventondemand.com/#home-vent-on-demand

Looks suspiciously like Premise's website.

premise.com

Todd and Clare, honeypot for fetishes. Vent on Demand, honeypot for crises. Vent on Demand has almost no following, almost nothing in its blog. Almost no updates. Same as Todd and Clare.
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>>93831826
Vent on Demand's privacy policy is two fucking sentences -- for a company that specializes in highly sensitive information.
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>>93831826
Good spot. Will look into this also.

There is also Traffic Sail Press, the publishing company owned by Todd & Clare which published their book.

Also the address in Houston is linked to various scamming companies (can't remember any specific ones right now).
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>>93822216
BUMP
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>>93832609
Vent on Demand has a kickstarter, which collected over $20k.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1693750697/vent-on-demand/description

And a youtube account.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwTOddOVl2BFPk3-iH0yZNA

The youtube account was active 4 days ago, we may have an active shooter scenario.
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>>93831826
Another company linked to their twitter is: MoveNation Sports

Same thing as Todd & Clare with dead website, no representatives, stock & stolen photos used on website.
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>>93833617
*Linkedin, not twitter
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>>93833203
Whois search of Vent On Demand shows that it is located in San Fransisco. Where is Premise located? San Fransisco.
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>>93831826
WhoIs tells me Vent On Demand are registered in...San Francisco.

Ave Karp is is the admin and she seems legit
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>>93833701
Premise is there too, but to be fair a lot of start-ups are there so it's not too coincidental.
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>>93834217
Compare the Premise Data website with the Vent on Demand website, very similar. Then compare the Todd and Clare youtube channel with the Vent on Demand youtube channel. Very few views. Very few connections. Mostly just ~1 minute long videos.
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>>93834475
The youtubes are very similar, though the major difference is that Vent has various people (Edward Sullivan, Ms. Karp) as named representatives of the site. None of the confirmed Todd & Clare companies do.
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Bump
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There's a glassdoor account for Todd & Clare

https://www.glassdoor.co.uk/Overview/Working-at-Todd-and-Clare

One former employee has left a review
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https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiLeaks/comments/58c43s/we_are_the_current_tenants_of_the_building/
Anyone seen this?
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>>93835479
Whoa
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Ok so we have this:
- 16 jan. Todd and Clare YT video about dating w/disabilities. Link to and mention of Sheypuk
-24 jan. First mention of Katia? At least on their twitter feed.
-4 march 2016 Scott tweets for the first time since 4 nov 15. It's about Katia
- 5 march. First wayback copy of Scott's site that mentions Katia
-Scott tweets almost exclusively about Katia until apr 7. None of the tweets after this mentions Katia
- However Scott's facebook post 26 may about his dad has a #standwithkatia.
- Scott goes silent after 30 may tweet

My guess right now: Scott heard about ToddandClare since Sheypuk mentioned them on twitter after they had made the disability video. He wanted to try the site, maybe it didn't work, maybe he emailed them and they found a way to use Scott from there. My guess is they had already started the "Katia project" when Scott got involved.

Scott probably asked for money, they told him why not use kickstarter? When it didn't work out, they wrote "due to changes in Scott's funding" it will only be available to women, som BS. And Scott stopped "working" with them (he prob never did any statistical work, just promotional).
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>>93835479
Yeah, doesn't confirm much. Whoever is behind Todd & Clare are pretty stupid using so many names. I've seen at least 10 first and full names associated with the site so far, none link to real people.

It does suggest Premise isn't involved, but then why would this specific address be used? Is it simply the same kind of address as the storage unit in Houston used by scam websites?
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>>93822216

Site is down. We did it?
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>>93835906
Nice work, and your assumptions do make sense.

I have tried linking Scott with sexual depravity but find nothing much. His website has various contact details, including a telephone, but some anon called him yesterday with no luck.
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MONEY LAUNDERING FOUND IT FOUND IT MONEY LAUNDERING YES

They are using shell companies and fake kickstarter accounts to launder money to their honeypots! How is this NOT Premise?
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>>93836821
Sorry, too excited, I need to explain.

This is a honeypot, ie, Vent on Demand gathers personal information of users in order to exploit said information. It is a brand new startup basically, with few followers and a rather small social media footprint. Yet it gathered over $20k in 30 days of fundraising. They stupidly used the same stock photo of one of their coaches for one of the backers.
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>>93837259
>>93836821
The founder Ave Karp has a facebook, maybe worth someone contacting her?
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>>93835437
haven't seen the review (didn't load), but if it was written before this thing got viral, I can guarantee you that it was written by the ppl behind this plot, just like the mumsnet thread and the literotica stories and the adult site "banned from todd and clare"
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>>93837926
It was written in June by a short-term employee with a poor grasp of English.

Also, on reddit today someone asked the mods to close down the Todd & Clare subreddit since nobody posts there, and the admin (who has previously posted about pantyhose fetish) posted his first comment to object the decision after months without posting.
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>>93836821
Sorry, listed under same name. But the fact remains that it seems no Jennifer exists. There is no phone number listed despite coaches being "on call." The app exists, but it is probably spyware.
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Holy shit lads this is good work. Keep it coming
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>>93836821
>>93837259
I don't think this has anything to do with Todd & Clare.

The name of the coach and backer is the same, looks like it's just a friend of theirs who is one of their "coaches" (it's spiritual shit) and who decided to back them with a few bucks.
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>>93838155
That is so weird, Why do they care about a subreddit at this point?
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>try to paint Assange as a pedo
>use your own fake site for money laundering
>BTFO yourself

The democrat way
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>>93838523
No idea. I'll try and find the link in a bit.

What troubles me here is that someone who created and maintained a sexual fetish website and hired webcam models for sexual purposes (the old Todd & Clare youtube page had a bunch of said videos) is likely the same person hiring webcam models to front a fake pro-women dating website and paying them (presumably) to create videos advertising the company. Seems like it's a very sick individual behind this.
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bump for justice
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>>93838173
She does exist: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennifer-weddle-0855a820

I think this is a dead end.
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It would be nice if we could make a list of all the fake references to todd and clare that the ppl behind the plot have made online:

July 2015
*Fake* blog, earliest mention I've seen to Todd and Clare:
http://www.shewrites.com/m/blogpost?id=3506464%3ABlogPost%3A1078666

June 2016 *fake* thread, several fake users. http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/relationships/2670191-Adultwork-Todd-and-Clare-on-DH-bank-statement

May/june 2016
*fake literotica user* wirthttps://www.literotica.com/stories/memberpage.php?uid=3212170&page=contact

*fake* Adult site NSFW:
bannedfromtoddandclare.clipvia.com

*fake* event:
https://freeeventfinder.com/todd-and-clare-party-greenwich-village-new-york-ny
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>>93838830

Whoa, there's an old YT page?
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>>93839983
See: http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/93661440/#q93661985
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>>93840127
>http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/93661440/#q93661985

Oh nice!

But that is just another fake reference to todd and clare made by the people behind TandC. I think Todd and Clare itself is always referenced to as a dating site They do this, create fake pages and so on to reference Todd and Clare in the real world, I dunno why.. I don't think it is to draw real users, since there's no site to use for real users

It's weird as fcuk that the foot fetish thing is a recurring theme, even in that mumsthread thread the fake user mentions feet in a sexual context.
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Bump
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Bump... We're the fbi now
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to the anons who were on this:
Who is the foot fetish girl with the YT channel?http://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1476/87/1476877391669.png

It was mentioned she is real and sells panties and stuff. *Important.*

Theory: She is real, had a channel. TandC paid her to mention and link to their site. Or the channel is essentially fake with copied videos operate by TandC just to link to their site. But this is an important clue I personally don't believe they've taken money from anyone yet at least not intentionally.
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The T&C actress "Ali" was found on FB. Maybe we should focus efforts there. We need to find out who paid her to do the ads for T&C...
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>>93840940
Todd & Clare is confirmed to have been a webcam site for sexual deviants, which later switched to becoming a pro-woman, politically motivated dating site.

What we need to find out is who contacted Scott and the actress in California named Lexi Graboski.

He has contact details on his site, doesn't seem to be responding.

Wikileaks and others have messaged Lexi on facebook (she uses it frequently) to no avail. I'd say our best bet is to contact their friends and see if we can get an answer.

If it wasn't for the UN Global Compact link (who would know enough about politics to know that they could register with this rather obscure UN initiative for credibility) I'd say it was just some schizophrenic / aspergic troll trying to make some easy money out of Assange (why would he ever agree to do a dating video? the premise was so retarded).

Either way, it looks like someone, or a group of people, have spent money on webcam models, online developers and so on simply to start a scandal about Assange which died in a matter of days. A huge waste of time and money for those people.
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>>93822908
Good, thanks. This latest shutdown seems more like hiding their premeditation when they do whatever it is they threatened to do to Julian on Halloween than them running scared to me.
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There's so much going on this election between leaks and digging. For the idiots, how does this fit into the big picture?
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>>93830242
Then she blamed her married lover, Vince Foster, for the fiasco, bullying him into committing suicide.

With his off-hand.

>tfw you arrange a "suicide" and don't know which hand the guy uses most.
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>>93843643
You mean Lexi Graboski?

She posted within the past day on twitter

https://twitter.com/lexilee

and facebook
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>>93843745
>Wikileaks and others have messaged Lexi on facebook (she uses it frequently) to no avail. I'd say our best bet is to contact their friends and see if we can get an answer.
She has an IMDB
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm4091593/
>Either way, it looks like someone, or a group of people, have spent money on webcam models, online developers and so on simply to start a scandal about Assange which died in a matter of days. A huge waste of time and money for those people.
The only thing that's fishy is that out of all the addresses to try and use, 645 7th in San Francisco was some how selected, which during 2015 was occupied by an intelligence corporation with deep ties to the DNC. Shady as fuck.
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>>93843745

I don't get it, if Todd and Clare was a legit cam site for sexual deviants, shouldn't there be legit references to it? Ive tried digging through the old threads here, but it's too fcuking much

I think anons have misinterpreted evidence, essentially got fooled. Like that mumsnet thread, that was all fake.

Toddandclare.com doesn't have a dark history, it was nothing before it became the "dating site".

I agree that this all just too autistic to be some political operation or gov sanctioned front company. It's crazy,but im thinking psyops.
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>>93844016
I very much doubt this fits into any meta-narrative. If the Premise Data link is legit then we have some really shady stuff on our hands. Otherwise, it looks like the work of a sexually deviant autist who thought it would be a good idea to try and shake some money out of Assange.
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>>93843745

I don't get it, if Todd and Clare was a legit cam site for sexual deviants, shouldn't there be legit references to it? Ive tried digging through the old threads here, but it's too fcuking much

I think anons have misinterpreted evidence, essentially got fooled. Like that mumsnet thread, that was all fake.

Toddandclare.com doesn't have a dark history, it was nothing before it became the "dating site".

I agree that this seems too autistic to be some political operation or gov sanctioned front company, but what do I know. It's crazy as fcuk,but im thinking it could be part of psyops.
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>>93842293
Nature abhors a vacuum.
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>>93843745

I think it's worth noting they were never actually pro-women. They posted a ton of things to make it look like that with the katia and YouTube channel, but the site was always targeting men looking for sex. Per their own blog post, they weren't even accepting women over 30 for most of their existence. On the profile pages they say all the women are verified to be single with no children. These sort of rules fly directly in the face of feminism. The feminism front was just a maneuver to legitimize the site. Making their target men more likely to give personal information and reducing the chance anyone would look into them. And if anyone questioned them it would look like they were attacking a UN backed feminist dating site.
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>>93844442

She's signed a NDA
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How about The Premise Data Corp being on the receiving end of a nice grant from the Rockefeller Foundation? They received 400k in 2015.

https://www.rockefellerfoundation.org/our-work/grants/premise-data-corporation/#grant-premise-data-corporation-2015
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>>93844838

Do we have evidence of a single (real) person to have been defrauded or paid money to toddandclare?
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Pic related is what someone found in the internet archive. Todd and Clare is the website linked on each photo on the right. A mumsnet post, perhaps real (the appearance of the dominatrix in the thread raises eyebrows) links Todd and Clare in its previous form to Adultwork, which is an escort + webcam service in the UK. Also the old Todd & Clare youtube has pantyhose fetish videos, and the Tod & Clare subreddit is dedicated in part to pantyhose fetishism.
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Goddamnit I tried making this connection last night but it got lost in the noise.

READ THIS OP
>READ THIS OP

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/12270
>attached document: Right-Left Memo.doc (from 2003!)
SCREENCAP FROM PAGE 2 OF MEMO

FW: Right-Left Memo

>The Halperin/Podesta AMI Proposal is both provocative and constructive. I do have a number of questions and concerns, however, including the following:

(Soros and Halperin recruited Harold Ickes, chief fundraiser and former deputy chief of staff for the Clinton White House to help organize the Center for American Progress. It was launched on July 7, 2003 as the American Majority Institute.)

AMI = CAP
>AMI = CAP

>Although many of the names contained in the first draft of the Proposal are no longer mentioned, it is important to be sensitive to the potential allegation that AMI is simply a group of Clinton retreads and possibly a stalking horse for Hillary Clinton.

STALKING HORSE:
>a screen traditionally made in the shape of a horse behind which a hunter can stay concealed when stalking prey.
>a false pretext concealing someone's real intentions.
>a political candidate who runs only in order to provoke the election and thus allow a stronger candidate to come forward.

>The proposal suggests that AMI is essentially a marketing and dissemination organization. I think those aspects are absolutely critical, but that our objectives would be better served if the organization contained scholars and thinkers as well. This would add gravitas to the image it presents and would serve to legitimize the more aggressive dissemination aspect of its program.

Soros has been pumping hundreds of millions of dollars into CAP since 2003 in order to shift American public consciousness towards his globalist agenda.
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mumsnet post is NOT REAL. Guaranteed. It's written by ellie1977 same name of the rape video, way too many references to toddandclear, it's trolling, she made several users.

The mumsnet post is written by the same person/ppl behind all of this, since she writes in uk english, it could be the same prson writing to Julian.
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>>93822216
HAPPENING

THE GOYS KNOW
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>>93845406
No.

I'm only getting at the fact that the feminist front was contradictory to how the site actually worked. The part where I'm stating that the feminist front is to make the target feel more comfortable and insulate them from investigation is an inference.
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The other YT channel is not official TandC, but made by a girl who links and references TandC.

The foot fetish thing is weird as fcuk, but it essentially is just another reference to todd and clear, pretending it is real, whether they got paid to reference them or whether it's made by the same ppl.

The literotica stories, the user made three stories, ALL of them with a ton of references to todd and clare, in may/june 2016. It's fake, made by the TandC ppl. Mumsnet post june 2016. The mumsnet thread got closed btw when ppl found out it was trolling/hoax.
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Here is the Who Is search result for Lexi Graboski

Any Americans want to contact her?
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bumping valuable bread
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>>93846056

Sure, I agree that the katia/UN thing gives credibility,,

But I think the "defrauding men"-angle has got a bit out of control. I don't think it's possible to use TandC as a real site, their activity around the web is way too bizarre to be efforts to attract real users to the site and ive seen no evidence of fraud victims. But targeting a single person like Assange, sure. Then there's a psyops element in all the weirdness and just having a ton of fake references gives some credibility if research is superficial.

They first tried to pin Assange to the russian money. The pedoplot came after Assange rejected.
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>>93846293
>https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/12270
Why don't you give her a call? She'd totally dig your accent, maybe even show you her juicy titties.
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Graboski, the model in the Todd & Clare videos, is heavily pro-Hillary btw
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>>93842293
>now
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Let's keep going further on this. Board of Directors for Premise. LARRY SUMMERS. DAVID SOLOFF. ANTONIO GRACIAS.

Soloff is on Todd and Claire. Soloff is directly connected to Premise as he's the founder.

Podesta Email 22871
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/22871#efmAANABFACAACmAC2AEk
Talks about lobbying for for cyber security and tech. Kirchoff was appointed to managing partner of DIUX, which interestingly enough Raj Shah is a managing partner of. So, wonder if the Defense dept, or any one of the litany of 3 letter bureaus coordinated a cyber snooping collective at both places, since they're so entwined.

Sorry for shitty layout, I'm trying to make sense of all of this in my head.
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Bumparino for some darn diddly justice
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>>93847219
Not shocking though, she's a young, white female in Commiefornia.
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>>93847317
>Soloff is on Todd and Claire. Soloff is directly connected to Premise as he's the founder.
How do we know Soloff is behind T&C? All we have is an address connection in 2015.
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Bump cuz i think this scandal is the beginning of something huge
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>>93847317
If the Premise Data / Soloff link is legit (and not an address coincidence) then we also have clear links between Todd & Clare's affiliation with the UN Global Compact program and Podesta. In Podesta's emails a Hillary staff emails him a bunch of times in 2015 asking him to help her (Laura Graham iirc) get an influential role in the UN Global Compact program.
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>>93822216
I think we might have just stumbled upon a CIA/NSA cyber security job. Todd and Claire is linked to Soloff obviously. Soloff is linked to Premise. Premise is linked to Raj Shah as an advisor. Shah is managing partner of DIUX (Defense Innovation Unit Experimental).
Is this a massive data mining op? Or something more sinister like Project Mockingbird 2.0?

Wonder how deep this shit goes.

Anybody out there in anon-land have any info on DIUX?
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>>93846877

Did you see the review of the book?
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If anybody in the US wants to help out here, we need someone to phone Scott Drotar again and ask what his involvement was with Todd & Clare

His phone number and emails are here:

http://www.scottdrotar.com/contact/
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>>93847854
https://www.reddit.com/user/claudandtara

A person who talked about that...
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>>93847829
>wonder how deep this shit goes
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>>93847829
>Todd and Claire is linked to Soloff obviously.
All we got is the address unless I'm missing something. There needs to be something stronger beyond an address that anyone could randomly use.
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>>93847854
Wrong picture
Here is the weird review I hope.
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>>93846877
So you think it's more likely the whole thing was created specifically to attack Assange? Possible i suppose but it seems nuts. I guess it's nuts no matter what though.
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>>93848424
Some anon posted it as a joke.
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>>93848424
8ch trolling for those reviews.
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>>93848460
It is nuts but it's also very poorly handled. It was a total amateurish effort and gained no media traction. My suspicion is that if these guys were truly professionals they would have made more of an effort and made it seem more plausible.
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>>93847639
Soloff/Premise is legit, he's one of the founders of Premise. If you're referring to Soloff/T&C then yes, that link is tenuous at best.
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>>93822216
What's the point of a fake dating site?
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>>93848790
I'm sure Larry Summers is going to be asking for a refund.
"WTF guys how hard is it to frame someone for being a pedo, our shills at CNN have this down to a T"
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Daily reminder it was proven Premise was behind Todd and Clare as the phone number used to register the dating site is the same as Premise except the area code was different.

However the area code itself changed by the phone company so the numbers are identical!

I saw Soloff today claim the address was just a coincidence.

PHONE NUMBER IS THE SMOKING GUN
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Pressed

WE MUST DESTROY HER PHYLACTERY!!!

>>93822216

Great work OP! Once I get home in 3 hours I'll dig into this properly.

You should bring this up in a /cfg/ thread if you have not already. Solid weaponized autism and memeufacturing userbase in those threads.
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>>93847969
Fits with the pattern of fake may/june activity that mention todd and clare
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>>93849043
The theory as things stand is that someone created the fake dating website and then tried to make it credible (the fake Chomsky quote, the link to the UN) in order to accuse Assange as having been a user and for sexual misdeamonur with the younger sister of one of its users. That's the reason they went after Assange, but within days both Wikileaks and the autists on reddit and 4chan realized how ridiculous the whole premise was.
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This is a huge group of blackmailers who fish people for fake rape and pedo charges in exchange for money and/or social media messages that push any narrative they are backing. They use shell companies to appear legit, and more than likely Premise Data is running the whole blackmail show. They are harvesting data to see who is who, then sending bait out to important people. How do they know who is who? The data, stupid. In reality, they may have a number of politicians blackmailed and have sold that information to Hillary. She may have even given Premise Data government tools to use to harvest user data TO blackmail important people.
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>>93848424
it's a troolll
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>>93849403
Hold on now. The 510 and 415 codes were split in 1991
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Area_code_510
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>>93849476
Ahh. Wow.
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>>93822382
>>93822326
>>93822216

Can you faggots get it together and make an infographic that is legible? I cant read this shit.

If it's only me then I'llgo fuck myself.
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Also,

What do people think about Assange and the upcoming Ecuador elections? Chances are in February, the current leftie president Correa (who must leave) will be replaced by yet another CIA plant who will kick Assange out.

If that happens he will literally be arrested.

I assume a crowd will gather and dress up in blonde wigs and so on to try and rush him out of there into another embassy.
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>>93847829
It's a blackmail honeypot to gain leverage over people.
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>>93849476
Further added to that, there could be a deeper implication to be found here, in that DIUx shares common board members and advisers with Premise. DIUx is a DoD cyber security project.
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>>93849476
>how ridiculous the whole premise was
premise, hehe
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>>93849652
Could the number have changed over late?

Odds of a random 7 digit number matching up and this being a coincidence are basically zero.
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>>93850018
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Area_code_510
No if you look at the map, the location of 645 7th st has always been in the 415 portion, the split the right portion of that area code off into 510 so it would never have effected that location. But you're right, it's a huge coincidence.
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>>93848790
What I don't get is if it was solely to go after Assange, why would they create it with an interface that is so the opposite of the feminist ideals they portray to be operating under? Any actual feminist who saw a rule about not being allowed to have children and use the site would raise serious hell about that. It's a giant gap in ideology and I don't see how/why the creators would include things like that if it was just a scheme to get Assange.
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>>93849476

They tried to pin Assange to russian money first.

If this is a real operation, they never thought that the pedoplot angle would take off. There can be games here that are not easy to spot..

My guess is that Assange was never part of the plan in may/june 2016. They were developing this thing that could have several purposes but largely sexual angles, yet it wasn't weaponized yet. Maybe it was essentially training/first attempt in the private sector. And then they decided to use this thing to target Assange as it came clear that WL would publish shit before the election

There's so much weirdness all around, just two days ago with their bizarre letter to trudeau. None of that was ever credible, so if the ppl behind this are serious and brainy enough to make all this fakery in the first place, then they're playing non-obvious games after the russian money-angle failed.

Key observation: None of this is credible as the basis of media stories and things that multiple people believe in. However, if all you need is one person to believe that the company exists without having tried it or having an intention to try it, then it *could* work.
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>>93850371
If it's not the same number itself changing then it had to have been a deliberate request by them to set up the same number in another area code.

The mathematical odds otherwise are too impossible. Especially when coupled with the address data
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>>93849752
The investigation is going in a bunch of directions at the moment, making a single narrative rather difficult to illustrate.

Story is this:

>Assange gets an email from Todd & Clare dating website
>they'll pay $1 million if he stars in a 5 minute add
>his representative asks (probably as bait) what the add will be about
>Todd & Clare provide a synopsis of the add
>they then threaten his lawyer's life and the life of her son
>Assange's rep. tells them to desist
>they give him a dead line of Oct. 31
>they then contact news outlets pushing the story that Assange was a member of their site & did bad shit with a girl
>Wikileaks looks into Todd & Clare
>they find nobody associated with it except an actress paid to create some videos for them
>they conclude it's a "fictitious entity"
>they post their findings online
>autists find a link between Todd & Clare's registered San Fran address and a company called Premise Data at the same address
>if legit, the director of the company has visited the White House a bunch of times
>he works with Larry Summers, former Obama aide
>a bunch of other Dem ties exist on that front, again *if legit*
>autists find more evidence that Todd & Clare is a total shell company
>Todd & Clare goes down, start deleting youtube videos and more
>Scott Drotar >>93827781 is a confirmed former employee
>currently trying to find out if he's behind this or whether he was duped into working for the in some capacity

I've probably missed something
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>>93848460
I don't think it was necessarily to go after JUST Assange. It could be used to go after other political opponents, too. A convenient tool in the chest.
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>>93850442
The creators of the site seem very unprofessional and frankly mentally unstable. Not only is it an autistic enterprise, but the fact they also fill their site up with intensely political blog posts suggest they really aren't trying that hard to make it seem like a legit dating website. This is why I'm tempted to think it's just one unhinged (in the literal, psychiatrically-defined sense) guy who for some reason has decided to try his luck with Assange.
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>>93851264
Could be fake but there were posts from a British forum of some guys wife finding thousands of dollars of credit card charges from Todd and Clare. Some anon may have the image. It may have just been a general blackmail site masquerading as a dating site.
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>>93848460
Speculation: that it was not developed to target Assange, but that they decided to use it to target Assange, but when they made that decision I dunno. It could be very recent.

But honestly, I won't be surprised if mental illness is involved here..
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>>93851380
It was 100% fake. Guaranteed :) That user, ellie1977 (same name "ellie" as toddandclare's rape video) was in on the toddandclare game and they made other fake users as well.
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>>93850612

Is this known?

https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AwrC1Cn4BglYNH4AWQtPmolQ;_ylu=X3oDMTEyNHBhYnJtBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDQjI1NTdfMQRzZWMDc3I-?qid=20151028071943AAbYC7h

Question is from oct 2015. Answer describes the site pretty much in the form it was in before being shut down.

I wonder if we can get Tufts Fletcher womens group to verify if they ever had invitations being sent through their members. It's an oddly specific detail. They have a closed Facebook group that also lists a Gmail and LinkedIn group.
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>>93851351

I agree. It is impossible that intelligent people wanted to attract real users to this site or make it stand the test of any kind of scrutiny.

That could be mental illness or just a different game
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ELI5 What's going on.

I really have zero background information on any of this, and I need a happening coach to get me up to speed.
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>>93852180
Nice find. Totally fake reply, and I assume the initial question was fake too. Maybe this was all part of the effort to try and legitimise the site. After all, it claims to have 100,00+ female members and to have matched 5,000 married couples. It aimed high for sure. Very delusional.
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>>93852180
Nice find, hadn't seen it.

My take: This is fake, both the Q and A is written by toddandclare ppl, to have another online reference to todd and clare.
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>>93847317
Welp...just found that Killary did a fundraiser at Antonio Gracias' actual house. Top fucking Kek. These people are all scum.
https://www.willhillarywin.com/events/chicago-illinois-conversation-with-hillary-clinton-3/
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>>93852349
Read
>>93850712

Then check out the infographics in this thread and pic related

Whatever happens, there are some bad hombres behind this and I'd like to see them named and if possible brought to justice.
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Key q to find out if this is mental illness or if bad ppl are involved: The descriptions of Assange's lawyer's apartment and family. Do we have any confirmation of whether they were accurate and if so, whether it was public information?
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>>93852842
Every time you open a Podesta email, some new link to a scam, payoff, front company, DNC collusion, and phony charity pops up with one or more of the same players involved.

RICO at a level that has been unheard of since the Apalachin meeting.
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>>93853202
In the letter: https://wikileaks.org/IMG/pdf/toddandclare-emails-3-sep-2016-to-21-sep-2016.pdf

Assange, or his representative, try to scare off the blackmailer by saying the info regarding his lawyer's home and family life are public knowledge.

In my opinion the info they did give is pretty weak. I mean it's fairly easy to find someone's address, property plans that would confirm a staircase and basement, and probably facebook posts or something suggesting her kid moved schools.

If they wanted to really scare them they'd write about something that they did as a family, some location they visited or something.
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Is Scott Drotar kill?
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>>93852180
>https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AwrC1Cn4BglYNH4AWQtPmolQ;_ylu=X3oDMTEyNHBhYnJtBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDQjI1NTdfMQRzZWMDc3I-?qid=20151028071943AAbYC7h
Hahaha no one is that helpful on yahoo answers
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>>93853202
I'm not sure if it's someone who is mentally ill, but the language and the way the email was written makes me think it was someone who happens to be English as Second Language.

Moreover, the Rockefellers and the Rothschilds are rivals (Ivanka Trump dated Nat Rotschild in her teens), it makes mention of a Trump Group rival casino (the Flamingo)
and they obviously want to send a message that 'brexit never happened'.

Nathan Rothschild was pro-Brexit.
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>>93853682
I think we should first try contacting him for a couple of days, and then contact his sister who is a lawyer or something in New York. We shouldn't be hostile or accuse either of anything, just express curiosity and ask if he's willing to talk.
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>>93853794
Why has no one tried to figure out about Aaron Dunn? This guy is (was?) a web developer with Premise. His name was connected to Todd Hammond because of the SF address.
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>>93853963
>second language

I agree. Various misspellings and SoHo isn't spelled like that.

The brexit-related twitter post is just bizarre. Again it makes me suspect a mentally unstable troll.
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>>93854150
I want to know what's supposed to happen on November 1st that 'Putin will be there'.

It could really be someone who's mentally ill or something, just pandering with the media narrative. It could also be a smokescreen, but if a smokescreen, what is it for?
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Someone's made a breakthrough:

https://twitter.com/LilyOReilly11/status/788834205119635456?lang=en

https://twitter.com/LilyOReilly11/status/788834205119635456?lang=en

Plausible connection made:

Scam artist:
Tunde Reid-Kapo
Scam companies:
Yamiechess
Schiel & Denver publishing
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>>93825384
>>93825709
>>93827781

I think Scott Drotar is the mastermind behind this whole scam.
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>>93852180
Here's another version
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:0ekU7LhnhwMJ:mtechnic.net/threads_cell-phone-dating-site.html&num=1&hl=en&gl=us&strip=1&vwsrc=0
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>>93854629
Awesome, how did you find this?
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>>93836821
So, I was one of the anons in the first thread and following 5. Then I come on today, and see the name Jennifer Weddle which would have been my half sister's name had her mother kept my father's name. But, she didn't.

That person, as is named, does not exist; I've spent a decade looking for her.


As usual with this saga, puzzling.


My case is probably highly coincidental.

I still think scott drotar is ded, you dont just vanish offline in 2016 and the digital age without so much as an obit.

Popcorn.jpg
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>>93854889
Not me, I saw the links on reddit, by I think the person who found this.

https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiLeaks/comments/58c43s/we_are_the_current_tenants_of_the_building/d90mb79

Now the q is, who is this guy and who is he connected to if any..
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>>93855167
This Jennifer Weddle does exist. See: >>93839762


The start-up in question that the anon posted is some new-age shit that is trying to become big like every other start-up in San Fran. She's a confirmed life coach and is probably just investing a couple of bucks into her buddy's company. I doubt she's full-time staff, probably just freelancing for her.
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Oh wow guys, who saw this? HRC's basement dwelling cat ladies were right on top of this ASAP!

http://www.snopes.com/san-francisco-tech-assange/
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Again, thanks for posting this.

Pic related suggests this Tunde guy has an office in London. I live 15 minutes away from it and I will check it out tomorrow to see if anybody is there.

It would be great if there was a conclusion to this, even if we know it's a failed plot.
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>>93854629

http://m.imdb.com/name/nm5465119/

Tunde Reid-Kato wrote and directed a short movie that won awards.

https://vimeo.com/83396750

Wtf i hate chess now
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>>93855167
He's a recluse.

Your digital impressions can outright evaporate if you know what you're doing. Thing is, the Tunde guy, the Tunde guy exists since, at least, 2014.

He had an entry in GenCon 2014.

And one Sharade or whatever, some female chess player, is the only person who can confirm whether or not she was contacted by the individual in question.
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>>93857107
>http://m.imdb.com/name/nm5465119/
Synchronized to Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart's Symphony No. 25 in G Minor, King Tigermore In Strawberry Fields is the animated sequel short film to the educational math comic in the first Yamie Chess School Assistant, The Adventures of Tigermore and the Mind Angels for scholastic K-8 mathematics, logic and science learning, that is launching at NSSEA Ed Expo 2014 and the American International Toy Fair 2014. (Music courtesy of Naxos of America, Inc.) It all begins in Strawberry Fields, when eight-year-old Kimi, the boy who plays chess in his dreams, falls asleep during a chess match in Central Park, and imagines that the white king piece in his chess game has come to life as King Tigermore. Yamie Chess Ltd presents a delightful children's animation.
- Written by Anonymous

...Fucking scary.

Forgive doubleposting.
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>>93856750
What a surprise, she loves Hillary and BLM and hates Trump and Alex Jones. Shocked I am

https://twitter.com/bpalmamarkus?lang=en
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>>93857107
Guess who attended GenCon 2011?

"Todd and Clare"

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Todd-Clare-Online-Dating-DySLeXiC/dp/1944243186

How do you know Atunde was at GenCon 2014?
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>>93857637
Someone on Leddit found a tab with him listed as an event under Yamie Chess Ltd.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLaynULYsV4
Also this is the movie.
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>>93858203
Uploader is yet another Russian. Weird.
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>>93858368
It's part of the long con narrative that the DNC and MSM are pushing that Russia is fucking with us. When its in actuality a bunch of autists on a Nepalese throat singing imageboard.
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>>93858203

https://www.yamiechess.com/statsdrome/

Yami chess parent company is a data mining company
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>>93857637
http://gencon.highprogrammer.com/gencon-indy-2014.cgi/group/Yamie_Chess_Ltd/Tunde_Reid-Kapo
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Sorry for link. On mobile. READ THE ADDRESS

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://tsdrapi.uspto.gov/ts/cd/casedocs/bundle.pdf%3Fsn%3D85760254%26type%3DFTK%26fromdate%3D2012-10-22%26todate%3D2012-10-22&ved=0ahUKEwjX996CierPAhVK5YMKHeasCkEQFggeMAE&usg=AFQjCNEEC0YBWYw-pCmt-_xp0NEsMqN6XQ
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>>93853963
I had a suspicion that this was a move by a shadow group against another.

The thing with the Clintons is that they'll take money from anyone, so you have multiple groups trying to gain influence: Soros, Saudis, Rothschilds, etc. I bet if we start to dig on the Bush's side we'll see even more shadow groups like Bilderburg.
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This Tunde link is amazing.

Check this out: http://www.endole.co.uk/explorer/company/postcode/bb3-2tr

The British address that "Tunde Kapo" gave for his company has 36 more companies registered to it, mostly dissolved.

This guy is the scammer equivalent of an Aussie shitposter
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>>93859070
Is that the warehouse in Houston?
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>>93859333
IIRS Yes
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>>93859333
IIRC*
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tl;dr
what the fuck is going on
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>>93859070
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. I love you nerds.
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>>93825194
Is he our guy?
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WTF I love autism now
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>>93859333
It is. It currently is listed as a package forwarding service, no doubt to cover their tracks when scamming someone.
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>>93859857
not sure, i have a terrible headache
but i think they unraveled the whole pedo shit against Assange

tl;dr
actors, busses and "people on the ground"
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>>93860119
These people have enough money to bankroll a fucking short animation...

and a product line...

and a bevy of websites. We've stumbled onto something here. It's not a scam, it's something else.
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Just a reminder that Assange's lawyer "committed suicide" a few months ago in London

http://www.hamhigh.co.uk/news/renowned_lawyer_who_represented_julian_assange_died_after_being_struck_by_train_in_west_hampstead_1_4507283
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>>93823617
>the KATIA Project (a fake sex offender recognition system that would probably have been "implemented" against Julian Assange)
is this some minority report shit?
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>>93860278
See
>>93847829
My theory is we stumbled upon a CIA/NSA shell corp group used for political disruption and espionage.
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>>93859070
10685-B Hazelhurst Dr. is owned by a mail forwarding company - usa2me.com

https://www.usa2me.com/site/Mail_Forwarding_How_It_Works.aspx

>How it works

Notice the address is a picture of text, not actual text.

https://www.usa2me.com/site/Contact_Us.aspx

The address again is a picture of text and not actual text.

They are hiding the address from search engine indexing.
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Soloff's twitter, before and after.
http://imgur.com/a/Q2H3S
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>>93827781
Scott hasn't replied to any of my attempt to contact him.
There is also no obituary records of him dying.
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https://www.yamiechess.com/parents-teachers/

I suggest contacting these professors and seeing if these testimonials are real.
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They also had enough money to set up a store in Marleybone, which is ten minutes away from where Assange is living and is one of the most expensive areas in London. The other shops in the area are Gucci etc, yet this weird chess company has enough to have their base in Marleybone?
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>>93845516
Yesterday I also found this user writing erotic incest literature about ToddandClare.com

https://www.literotica.com/stories/memberpage.php?uid=3212170&page=submissions
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>>93860584
The mystery deepens

Pic related
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>>93860791
Considering the terrible sales rank of their items on Amazon and no presence on boardgamegeek, no.
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>>93861060
is there any public tax records ?
i cant into UK
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>>93860984
Nigga no offence but I ain't opening that. Is that the incest stories?
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>>93860791

They overextended and are now visible. Well done postbro
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>>93861232
Nope, just some documents associated with them applying to set up another company (their 37th by my count).

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/06549035/filing-history
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>>93861270
3 incest stories

>Overly Attached Girlfriend (3.76) Mommy hires a GFE escort to help fuck her perverted son. Incest/Taboo 06/18/16
>The Dating Site (4.17) A mom uses a mobile dating site to seduce her attorney son. Incest/Taboo 05/30/16
>The Dating Site Ch. 02 (4.17) The incestual dating play continues as Rick fucks his sister Incest/Taboo 06/07/16

All reference T&C.com by name

e.g.

>Instead of chiding his wayward sister, Rick, a legal wordsmith, in fact derived a sick pleasure from helping his sexually attractive sibling weave invitations for her cuddling services into her dating profile on Todd and Clare, the dating site that put Rick's cock into his mother's cunt; and so many needy, older male clients into Jessica's bed.
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Mfw sasha Obama plays Yamie chess
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>>93861585
Thanks for the summaries. Very strange shit going on here.

So far my guesses are:

1. Shady government backed honeypots designed to discredit public figures

2. Autistic sexual deviant with an axe to grind

3. Experienced scammers trying to pull off a big con with Assange
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Guys, guys, guys I think I found something huge, smoking gun connecting Premise and T&C
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>>93861899

I think its more that the clintons have their own intel operations funded by their foundation. Its also a nice way for the cia to rinse money while funneling to their off the book operations
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>>93862056
Share it
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>>93861748
Nice find.

I pity the person who is trying to put this all into an infrographic. It took me long enough to make the Hotwheelz one today.
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>>93862242
>>93861957
x-post from otherplace:

Mr Akintunde Sahara Reid-Kapo
Author of "My Autistic Wterlily" top kek:
https://www.amazon.com/My-Autistic-Waterlily-T-Reid-Kapo/dp/1849030006
This seems like a big breakthrough goys! As an auther, I guess it's likely he wrote the book, especially as it features GenCon. Going to research this nigga hard
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>>93861748
It's part of the scam..

Same method used for the Assange stuff.
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One other weird thing worth looking at.

There's an imgur album here where all pictures have watermarks for T&C.com, including a random picture of a zebra.

http://imgur.com/user/lungeyjosh/submitted

>lungeyjosh

And over on the T&C subreddit, the only moderators name is...joshlunge87

https://www.reddit.com/r/toddandclare/
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>>93861899
>99
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Also has a book "financial existentialism"

Published by Schiel & Denver Publishing.

Neat.
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>>93860984

They're written by the scammer..


Now that we know that this is most likely a scam operation probably without political connections, it has to be said this scammer is a crazy mfer.
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Wtf
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>>93860573
Not CIA/NSA exactly. These guys are too sloppy. Look at the building Premise is located in, there's other tech firms. Now, that might be normal for SF but there may be connections. My guess is these employees are aspiring CIA that the Clinton foundation scooped up to be their own personal CIA.
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>>93862632
........welp
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>>93862632
Looks like a form response letter. What context did you see it in?
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>>93862056
>Major purchase orders and contracts by UN organization
>https://www.unops.org/SiteCollectionDocuments/ASR/ASR_2015_Major_purchase_orders_and_contracts.pdf
>United States of America PREMISE DATA CORPORATION Engineering, Research and Technology Based Services 45,000.00

Guess who has worked with UNOPS? Julia Phillips
https://www.iom.int/files/live/sites/iom/files/What-We-Do/docs/Transitional-Shelter-Guidelines.pdf

Guess who registered T&C?
https://ghostbin.com/paste/h3umf
http://toddandclare.com.w3snoop.com/

Julia Phillips
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>>93862094
>the clintons have their own intel operations funded by their foundation
They do, I keep trying to explain this any I keep getting slid hard. Mark Penn is one of the connections.

>https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/9572

From:ntanden@gmail.com
To: john.podesta@gmail.com
Date: 2016-01-17 00:41
Subject: Re:

>"You mean pissed? Got held by who? Hillary. God. Her instincts are suboptimal."

>"Pretty typical though. I would not be surprised if wjc told him to do it. Just as I'm pretty sure mark Penn didn't do his cocaine rang against Obama without some higher up approval."

Here are some highlights from his bio:

>Penn earned a bachelor’s degree from Harvard College and attended Columbia Law School.
>2008 Chief campaign strategist to HRC
>He is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations
>Chief Insight Officer at Microsoft (A title they invented for him)
>a member of the National Holocaust Museum’s Committee on Conscience
>serves on the board of Meridian International Center
>columnist for the Wall Street Journal, Time.com, POLITICO, and The Huffington Post.
>In a cover story, Time Magazine called him “Master of the Message.”
>Penn is also a Visiting Lecturer at Harvard College and a Professorial Lecturer at George Washington University
>served in senior executive positions at Microsoft as Executive Vice President and Chief Strategy Officer
>As the co-founder and CEO of Penn Schoen Berland, a global market research firm that he built and sold to WPP, he demonstrated value creation in a crowded industry serving clients with innovative techniques from being first with overnight polling to pioneering unique ad testing methods used by Presidents and Fortune 100 corporations.

Read that last sentence again.
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>>93862788
http://www.prweb.com/releases/US-Military-MichelleObama/Education-Chess-FirstLady/prweb12084383.htm

Can download from here
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>>93862825
You're on to something here.
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DELED THIS IM JUST GONNA DRONE HIM WHEN IM ELECTED
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>>93861748
>At a time when U.S. Chess Champion Jennifer Shahade plays the Boys and Girl Scouts of America at Gen Con in Indianapolis on Sunday, August 17, 2014
Gen Con again
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someone on reddit mentioned Todd Hammond's personal linkedin had only one really important person endorsing him - Francis Battaglia who owns a bunch of 'alt-right' media and might be connected to getoffthefence.net
might be worth it to look into Battaglia's stuff to see if his stuff is pushing provacateur agenda for the 'alt-right' label they tried to co-opt
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Tunde Reid-Kapo's original scam was Sheil and Denver, a scam publisher. It used the same Houston address as T&C. Also the crunchbase webpage for Sheil and Denver linked to toddandclare feed. Sheil and Denver did the same weird UN registration as well. So the modus operandi is similar. Tunde used dropboxes for registration. Also don't forget that the "lawsuit" (also probably fake) against Assange was filed by "Todd Hammond" in the UK.
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Off topic, but looked at the bombshell Wikileaks just dropped
https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/789188917736071169
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>>93862731
I'm looking past Premise right now into DIUx. I really am interested by the connections and attachments these two groups have to each other.
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NEW INFO GUYS, DIG
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>>93863195
>>93863561
>>93863587

So we have a Nigerian running scams, and one of these many scams is Schiel and Denver...

The letter written to Assange reads like an ESL wrote it. God, it'd be funny as fuck if a Nigerian wrote it, jesus christ.

A Nigerian scam artist.
He fucking needs to go back.
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>>93862825
This is a solid connection. The Julia Phillips. Follow this lead
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>>93863561

Controlled opposition?
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>>93863894
>So we have a Nigerian running scams,
I was thinking, that still doesn't explain the cryptic tweet. Then I remember one of these companies had something with working in Africa, may have been Premise. And the photo of their office too, had multinational flags. What if they hire Nigerian scammers?
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>>93863859
We're on this already.

They used to live in Lancashire, UK, where 36 companies (now dissolved) were set up at their address

He also has ties to academia

>"He presented his neurological dissertation for the Gowers Prize Ceremony at the International League's Annual Scientific Conference in Gateshead, Newcastle."

https://www.amazon.co.uk/My-Autistic-Waterlily-Memoirs-Object/dp/1849030006
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The "Gowers Medical Student Award" appears entirely fabricated. I can't find any references outside of pages related to him/My Autistic Waterlily. He's a big-time conman as far as I can see.
The questions are:
1) Is he a real person?
2) Could he be doing this on his own if he is?
3) If so, why would he want to blackmail Assange?
4) If not, can we find connections to who he is working for?
5) If he's not a real person, then we need to follow the paper trail even further.
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>>93863859
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/officers/NXJIb6j3X3tnLYslGFSnfUZFy44/appointments
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>>93863859
1/2
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>>93864753
2/2
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>>93822216
Skypebook page doesn't want to be archived but still refernces T&C
Kikebook.com/katiaproject
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>>93860584
They say they have "been a leader" in their field since 2004 but they only have 5 reviews on major websites.

http://www.bbb.org/houston/business-reviews/mailing-services/usa2me-com-in-houston-tx-31005961/
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>>93864628
http://www.companydirectorcheck.com/margo-reid
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>>93864521
It's such a weird award anyway. I mean this guy supposely studied for a PhD for epilepsy and then wrote a novel about child abuse which won some obscure literary-medical award? It's just plain strange.

I'm looking to find any addresses in London. If anybody finds one post it and I'll check it out tomorrow.
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>>93864330
maybe, it just struck me as odd that a guy with a bunch of conservative media outlets would be tied to "Todd Hammond"s linkedin given how someones been trying to put a figure head and label on the 'alt-right' movement - like that retard who gave a press conference claiming to be a white supremacist nationalist and the leader of the alt right even though nobody had ever heard of him
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This is too good..
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>>93864946
Same strategy as Todd & Clare, who claim to be a major player forming thousands of marriages.

Their strategy appears to be the same each time: huge claims but very little effort.

The question is, why?
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So after Penrose went bust, she moved to Yamie which then changed names a number of times in a short period, all while making kids toys..?
1/2 pic related
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>>93865560
2/2 previous names/changes in listing
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>>93863587
I'm now convinced that Tunde Reid-Kapo is the man behind the T&C scam. Everything lines up - the shipping addresses, the UN compact, all the way down to the "Christian themed" aspect.
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So the people behind Schiel & Denver and probably Todd & Clare are obviously somewhat educated.

Pic related is yet another sex book of theirs. They mention Harrods here, which is right next to where Assange lives. They also have had a property in Marleybone, which is nearby and very expensive.
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>>93865667
There's a possibility there was some other company with 'Yamie' in the name, and they kept getting C&D'd because they're scammers so they didn't resist. Hence the changes in name.
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>>93865560
I feel like we're glossing over the fact that Yamie Chess somehow switched gears in 2015 from being a children's learning toy company to being a data mining company. Just a bit of a change of direction eh?

Www.yamiechess.com/statsdrome
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>>93866222

That is just part of the scam, they're bullshitting..
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>>93866032
Thats very true, however if they got subpoena'd for it once they would likely make it nothing similar to avoid the same thing happening if they werent doing anything dodgy, otherwise why risk incurring that cost.
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Anybody else think we need an updated infographc at this point?

The new Tunde stuff is another leap forward but I fear we risk alienating newcomers who want to know what's going on.
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>>93866633
could do an addition to the second where the first left off
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Recon of this Marleybone location should be conducted. It's very suspicious to me due to its proximity to Assange.
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http://www.auscompanies.com/en/13324758853/REID-KAPO-AKINTUNDE
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>>93865932
why does that read like a children's book, and why are there so many grammar mistakes.

What the fuck is going on here.
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>>93867049
The thing is, they moved out in I believe 2009. And the people behind this have moved around very often, not to mention changed their names and the names of their companies every few months
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>>93844705
underrated
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Weird coincidence here:
From Yamie's linkedin you can find one Ben McGahee who works there as a programmer/Tutor with a chess background.

Now read this: http://edition.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/01/09/arizona.shooting.investigation/
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>>93867415
The thing is, it reads as if it's poorly written, but I'm fairly certain it's someone intelligent horsing around intentionally. Also it mentions "Dubya", which is George Bush, and the Oval Office, etc.

I hate to sound like the guy from A Beautiful Mind but I wonder if there's anything meaningful in their stories, behind the sex and weird grammar. Either way, these individuals have been writing about political issues since at least 20009, probably earlier, and are still writing about political issues on the Todd & Clare website (RIP).
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>>93827781
lost attention after the woman's badly made up face with bruises. Just too many tweets and a bit of a wall of text. Good work though but cut some of the volume to get the key data across more clearly.
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>>93856750
what the fuck?

why would snopes move so quickly to "debunk" currently-developing /pol/ paranoia shit, that isn't even remotely a solid story yet?

are we not still literally-nobodies in our parents' basements?

>me thinks the lady doth protest too much
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BIG LINK HERE: http://www.theindependentpublishingmagazine.com/2010/05/schiel-denver-reviewed-updated-may-2010.html

So the publishing company was founded in 2008, and within two years had 55 staff internationally. This is unheard of for a publishing company

Also, guess which initiative the company are associated with?

>"Schiel & Denver make much play on their admittance to the United Nations Global Compact."

Same as Todd & Clare. So for close to ten years they have been associated with the UN Global Impact initiative. The same one Podesta has influence over. The same one Laura Graham (Hillary staffer) applied to be head of in 2015.
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WHY ARENT THERE ANY CLINTON SHILLS IN THIS THREAD?

ARE WE ON THE WRONG TRACK?
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>>93867990
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>>93867990
To clarify, he made statements against Jared Laughner who killed John Roll who was a United States federal judge who served on the United States District Court for the District of Arizona.

This is shady stuff man.
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>>93822216

Shut it down REEEEE
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>>93866412
It's a real company. Like they have actual products. I just downloaded an ebook of theirs from the play store.

I'm not saying they aren't a scam too, but they do at least have a legitimate side of business, unlike t&c.
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>>93868562
>"I might also add the impetus to review them actually came from an email sent to me by…yes, Schiel & Denver themselves. The invoice for my publishing consultation over four days to research and complete this review is in the post to them!"

Once again, these guys are paying people to make their site seem legitimate.

Why the fuck have they been doing this for a decade?
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Vague relation, spooky coincidence here. Getting spam filtered so all the links are in the PB:

http://pastebin.com/91ZB481n

Found another fake review for T&C here on a website called 'CupidsLibrary', written by "Vic Corts" http://www.cupidslibrary.com/sites/todd-and-clare

His Google+ profile says he's the community manager for CupidsLibrary, but it also links to DomainRaccoon.

CupidsLibrary registered by KARSTEN AICHHOLZ (his personal website shows he also owns DomainRaccoon)

KARSTEN AICHHOLZ FaceBook for some reason also lists his name as 'Phil Lyos'

Google that name and you get this article: http://www.sddt.com/News/article.cfm?SourceCode=20140718tdd&_t=Math+Prime+on+DM+Heights

>The lessor was represented by Phil Lyos, of Cassidy Turley Commercial Real Estate.

Cassidy Turley is now owned by Cushman & Wakefield

Check WL for that company name and...

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/12128

>From:lgraham@clintonfoundation.org
>To: Huma@clintonemail.com

>Great - I am flexible Thursday so tell me what time best works for you and we will arrange a walk through. Please advise on whether you want me to include CBRE (our real estate reps) and Cushman Wakefield (GS real estate reps) in the walk through.
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>>93868607
This type of shit is what got kennedy shot. The connections here are pretty fucking undeniable. It show our clandestine agencies are beyond compromised most likely. But we knew that.
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This is either a huge scandal that runs so deep its taken this long to dig through
Or its nothing
>Fuck it chase it to the ends of this earth guys
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>>93822216
oh shit.
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>>93862955
slide or not, i saw this before. penn was mentioned here https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/22002
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>>93869313
Fucking hell mate, I'm going to have to read through that again but great persistence there.
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Ok I'm late to the party but have we covered off the deleted Wikipedia page and the people involved in the edits and also tried to message any of the paid Facebook like people. Some look like bots but a few seem legit.
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https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/6431
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/6431
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/6431


Can someone Pls look at this??

Email was send from

From:athanassios-nerouvpp@abbruch-report.de

To: johnpodesta@gmail.com Date: 2008-06-25 17:02

Subject: Your check is in the mail

Extend it and put it in http://www.roundtacki.com/

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

https://abbruch-report.de is a German website meant to connect companies to people that have jobs to be done.
Its specific for bulldozing buildings. The company is owned by Thomas Weinert that also owns Mandaport.de

https://mandaport.de/informationen/impressum


He says: Extend it and put it in http://www.roundtacki.com/.

Roundtacki.com doesn't exist (anymore). Roundtacki and athanassios sound Greek, also the Nero.
I looked up athanassios, nerouvpp, nero, uvpp etc and found nothing. In the email source code tho i found this:

Received: from 190-51-175-75.speedy.com.ar (Argentinia)

and Bingo:

From: ebenstein <athanassios-nerouvpp@abbruch-report.de>
To: johnpodesta@gmail.com

So his name is ebenstein and he is sending it from Argentina and contacting him trough a German Freelancer site.

Why would someone pay John Podesta? From a German website that is designed to find a contractor?


Maybe?
https://www.google.com/#q=Lanny+Ebenstein
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>>93869839

Sone one PLEASE Take this seriously.
Can someone please make an assessment.

SOMEONE NEEDS to look at it!!!
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>>93865922
>>93867049
i think houston is the better choice for someone to bring their camera.
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>>93869435
I'm a little freaked out right now. There were repeated attempts to hack my computer from government based ip in Virginia. I switched to 4G to get back on here
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Holy shit guys.....the leaks that just hit name obama using a company named ameritech. Branched off from at&t in 1994.

The AT&T logo on T&C.....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Room_641A


I'm pretty sure our instincts about alphabet soup are apt.
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>>93870145
>>93869839
Dude calm down. A lot of people are posting interesting stuff, no need to spam.It'll get looked at, and the thread will be archived.
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>>93870551
1984*

.......uh
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>>93870197
I think some Anon in Houston said he was going to go look at that address, but it's pretty clear it's just a lock-up / storage unit. Is there another address you think we should check out?
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>>93822216
shut-it-down.jpg
slide-it.gif
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>>93870551
Wasn't that the name of the Obama email address posted by Wikileaks?
https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/789188917736071169

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/?q=bobama&mfrom=&mto=&title=&notitle=&date_from=&date_to=&nofrom=&noto=&count=50&sort=6#searchresult
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>>93871098
Yep.

F

Nice knowing you guys
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>>93870551
can you reiterate what you mean by
> The AT&T logo on T&C.....

All I get is

> Telecoms company puts it's logo on terms and conditions.
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>>93871588
Np
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>>93835437
And that link is dead, not in the way back machine either, suspicious
Anyone got a screen cap?
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>>93871949
Ahhhhh. Makes sense.
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>>93872155
Working link https://www.glassdoor.co.uk/Overview/Working-at-Todd-and-Clare-EI_IE1315430.11,25.htm
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I'll try and find some time tomorrow to put an infographic together for all of this. The Tunde link was a great find by whoever found it.

The fact this leads to London is pretty weird, and if anybody finds a specific address they want researching I can go check it out.
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Someone posted this weird picture of a package from UK.
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>>93869313
>(GS real estate reps)
>GS
That George Soros, many emails reference him as much or simply 'S'.
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>>93873575
Source?
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>>93868607
I was gonna respond in this thread but I realized you're all just crazy and watched to see what kind of weird notions you pull out of your ass

>>93869082
They sell cheap android phones in shit hole countries. Pay them pennies to tell us how much a basket of apples costs when their governments fudge all the numbers
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>>93873774
Soloff's twitter.
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has anyone bought the book yet?



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