MBTI thread Let's lather love on our underrated ISFJ frens
>>51954555>ISFJs A BestW-we are?!?
>>51954698Of course! ISFJs are like us, but better. Endlessly loyal and hard-working. There's plenty of stories about INFJs leaving their partners for someone else, in some cases even shortly before the wedding, but you'll never hear about ISFJs doing the same.
>>51954980Woah....it's all true...wouldn't say we're better though.
>>51954555Why would you seriously think a thread dedicated toward ISFJs would be a good idea? My god you are so insensitive! Just think for a second about what you're doing. You are taking a traditionally safe-space for intuitives and are appropriating it for your own purposes. You are taking one of their only places from them! We, ISFJs, have our places out in society and we would never burden others with requiring them to recognize us here. Society recognizes us and appreciates our duty enough as it is. Misunderstood intuitives have nowhere else. What you're doing is very, very inconsiderate! You should be ASHAMED of yourself!!!!
>>51955219I'm sorry!!!! I'll make sure to commit sudoku right away!*impales himself om Sayakaposter's sword*
>>51955291It's seppuku, and please don't do that!!! I only intended for you to think about the consequences of your actions and how they affect others!
They're OK I guess. I wouldn't mind being absorbed by one. They the sort of person that tells me I'm going too far but that's probably for the best. Also I enjoy impressing them and they seem to enjoy being impressed so that's cool.My brother's an ISFJ and he has a tendancy to get a little too close into my personal space, I wouldn't mind that quality in somebody I wasn't related too if you know what I mean ;)
>>51954555What's the difference between a ISTP and a schizoid?
>>51954555>>51954980>>51955291Help me pinkpill Sophieanon, guys
So these are my results, what does this say about me?
>>51955528You need to become a more caring person and nurture others more! Being so weak with Fe is bad.
>>51955546but how do i become caring
>>51955795cure your autism and develop empathy
>>51955498pic related should do the trick
>>51955528Watch thisyour a nigger
>>51956566im actually a hapa
>>51957053Type him.He looks like how I imagine ESTJs
>>51957110Based INxJ. The media tries to spin it as him being mentally ill, just like they do with all shooters. In reality people like him, Anders Breivik etc, are actually sane people who have had enough of an insane world.
>be intp>im not entplife just wasnt fair to me
INTJ Chad reporting in
2nd for INTP
>>51957145If he's such an eco-fascist why didn't he shoot up the people responsible allowing 1 million tonnes of sludge to be dumped in the Great Barrier Reef?
>>51957646being INTP really is a whole different fucking thing. it's kind of pathetic, really. my mind is just almost completely detached from the world. all i do is think about dumb ideas i have and abstract theories, redpill shit, political theories and opinions, natural laws, people, friends. all just abstract theories to me. i'm almost completely theoretical. it's like the real world is just a tool for me to understand everything in an abstract way. i don't know what INTPs would have done before these great civilizations arose and created safe havens for them to do menial jobs, barely skid by to just think or do something that's completely experimental. it's useful being abstract, like being able to think of a weird thing that might improve something that helps everybody, but you aren't doing it TO improve the thing for everybody you just want to see if your idea works and your intuition was correct. Ne as a function is amazing and i like it more than Ti even though Ti is preferred. Ne as a tool for Ti is incredibly interesting and exciting, but it isn't optimal for living in the real world. honestly being an ENTP would probably be preferable for me as well since i enjoy Ne so much. plus the added benefit of being extraverted and having Fe third instead of inferior. also Se wouldn't be blind.
ENTPExtroverted but I dont know how to form relationships/bonds.
>>51957865that's common for ENTPs, and INTPs too for that matter. you're just better at talking to people. why do you think you can't connect with people?
i'm an ENFP but i have no idea what that means
Which function gets triggered when people doubt my decisions? I am very confident in things I have decided and hate when people question or doubt me about them.
>>51958540It's Fe>>51958169It means you're extraverted, intuitive, feeling and percieving. did you not read your results page?
>>51958613yeah but what the fuck does perceiving and intuitive mean
>>51955472>They the sort of person that tells me I'm going too far but that's probably for the best.literally have no idea what the fuck you're talking about. I never heard anyone say this except you, isfj or not
>>51957053Reddit pls go away
>>51954555I'm INTP and dont know what else to do other than go train MMA fulltime at this point
>>51955480An ISTP can enjoy social interactions; a schizoid cannot.
>>51957145>INxJ>ever carrying something out themselvesthis is how you know wh*te nationalists are gay retards. Yes thats right, i know you are a flaming homosexual, and a submissive one at that. Dont ask me how, i just know.
>>51958540>Which function gets triggered when people doubt my decisions? I am very confident in things I have decided and hate when people question or doubt me about them.Te.
>>51957110Looks almost like the guy who used to do vine videos.https://youtu.be/V3Vgptnstyc
>>51957839>INTP post>"tfw too intelligent to (x)"every single time
>>51958540Everyone dislikes it when people say that their decisions are wrong or stupid>>51958613No its not, fuck off retard
>>51957839fucking beta sperg
>>51958673>INTP>contact sportsdont do that
>>51954555>>51954698>>51954980>>51955152I totally agree! ISFJs are sweet and wonderful people! <3 Lots of love and hugs from INFJ-T Anon!!!(>^_^)><(^_^<)>>51953540Yes, it's totally normal for INFJs to appreciate nice and beautiful things!I for one like to OwO at wonders of nature~! :3
>>51958757brainlets wouldn't understand the struggle
>>51958789my dad was a talented martial artist i dont see why i couldntit's a tool to impose your will upon the world, a very good one at that.
>>51957839Hi jordan peterson.
Reminder that INTPs are the betas of Ti-doms.
Hey I'm the ENFP from the other thread I went to a psych appointment today they prescribed abilify and said I have a unspecified psychotic disorder until things are more clear.
>>51958862your Ti has Se, which is inferior. It's TiSe, not TiNe, you cant jjust say "Ti-Dom" that's dumb as hell.
>>51958835Cause if you are actually INTP Se blindspot will cause you to get your shit pushed inIts not a bad idea to try to get better at it though i suppose. A good idea actually if you think about it. Just dont try to use it for real unless its your last resort.
>>51958883Ne doesn't get you laid.
>>51958883Ne is inferior to Ni and Si is inferior to Se. ISTP>INTP
>>51958835>tfw INTP. >tfw tried to get into 6 different sports including 2 martial arts, but got bored very quickly and wasted my parents money on the equipment needed. I believe in you, hope it goes well.Actually I don't but I thought maybe you'd want encouraging words since it's what most people seem to want.If you dislike when people are nice to you I can be rude instead though.
>>51957145No way in hell this guy was an INXJ, his manifesto was literally pol shit word by word, nothing original was said.
>>51958962The guy was obviously a fucking imbecile. He was like 30 something and he literally got brainwashed by kids om 4chan. There are facebook posts of him saying that he loved the people of Pakistan (he traveled there) and that he thinks they are some of the kindest people he had met. He obviously picked up on this bs here.
>>51958798Thanks, Turbie!What are your favorite wonders of nature, by the way? I live by some really pretty mountains and like to look out my window at them when they're all covered in snow.>>51958874Abilify gave me tardive dyskinesia, if your muscles start feeling really weird and uncomfortable on it make sure you stop taking it, I tried to just push through hoping it'd go away but it didn't so I spent a week in some of the worst pain of my life.
>>51957921I dont know how relationships works.Like I have no problem in going to talk to someone or to a crowd but I simply cant understand relationships and how they are formed.
>>51957839you make me ashamed to be intp
>>51958625Percieving means you prefer to keep your options open rather than commit and intuitive means you prefer to trust your imagination over what you know.>>51958662I mean they've got their head on their shoulders, even if it's dissapointing to me.
>>51959085>and intuitive means you prefer to trust your imagination over what you know.what the fuckwhy would anyone do that
>>51959163use your imagination, you're meant to be an ENFP right
>>51959163Thats not what intuition means. Do not listen to that retard, he doesnt know anything. He is just trying to attentionwhore by saying retarded shit
>>51959085>I mean they've got their head on their shoulders, even if it's dissapointing to me.This is the kind of nonsense im talking about. You dont even know what this is supposed to meYou should be over your "look everyone im retarded" phase by the time you are like 10. Very severe and sad case of arrested development.
>>51958625Intuition is a preference for collecting abstract information.
>>51958908Its better to play dumb vidya then fuck girls who unironically enjoy Se. I feel like I dodged bigger bullet.
>>51959377[Se]x is an Se thing. This is why INTPs are beta cucks as well. Their Se blindspot causes their gfs to seek out a strong Se chad to statisfy their sexual needs that the INTP cant.
>>51958798More importantly INxJs experience Se like a child would. Reality is almost magical to them.>>51959602At least INTPs actually get gfs :PIt's better to have loved and lost you know.>>51959230I know exactly what I meant and I believe I expressed it in the best way I could. If you don't understand, that's on you.
>>51954555How do I escape Si-Ti loop as ISFJ male? I use only Fe to read emotions but I never open up to people. What to do guys.
>>51959859Developing the auxiliary function needs an environment where said function can easily find an use and won't be leading to a bad experience.Also I wouldn't describe the Si-Ti loop as not open, more like nitpicking details and use them to not trust/criticize others.
>>51959602I've got two ESFP acquaintances. One's charming and wildly funny in groups, but comes across as insensitive. He has no concept of context and completely lacks self awareness. It's hilarious. He's essentially useless for anything but comedy, promiscuity, and feigning profundity. He gets women left and right, though they're as vapid and uninteresting as he is. He's just an auto-cannabalistic hedonist fuck machine that turns increasingly bitter every time I see him.The other has a healthier extraverted sensing that works in tandem with the auxialliary introverted feeling to give a positive experience to those around him. He's still somewhat "pseudo-deep", but a decent listener anyways. I can't tell if he's processing all that he hears, but he enjoys listening and sometimes shares an opinion.Don't get me started on ISFPs, though. In my experience, they're just vacuums of anything positive. I'm biased, of course, because ISFP is my superego. Every ISFP I meet predictably melts their brain with drugs and becomes a neurotic husk beyond redemption, without regard for attempts of their less short-sighted freinds to help them.In short, Se is a meme, and if that's what it takes to get women, they're a meme too. I'd rather play legos and read.
>>51954555>test says ISTPWhat the fuck now? I don't wanna join the pointless debate on best type
>>51960027Shitpost or tell us how hard you would impregnate Fe doms
>>51954555>no tests>no reading>unrelated picture>edition in the subject fieldOne fucking job, ISFJ.
>>51960062OP is an INFJ, dumbo.
>>51959859Use Ne and Fe together, they're friends. Look for new ways to help people rather than relying on what you know. Over-reliance on Si will naturally lend itself to using Ti over Fe.>>51959377What about playing dumb vidya with girls? That sounds fun.
>>51960083How are you supposed to know that?Anyway, you still fucked up.
>>51960132Because "ISFJ frens" implies they aren't ISFJ themselves, that and OP is theposter formerly known as Sophie, who is INFJ.Also I didn't fuck up anything because I'm not the OP either.
>>51958902>Cause if you are actually INTP Se blindspot will cause you to get your shit pushed inthat makes no sense. Many sensors dont have Se you idiot
>>51960188Yeah, and they will get their shit pushed in in a fight against an Se user.
>>51960164>"ISFJ frens" implies they aren't ISFJ themselvesNot really>>51960188You have all functions, just different roles.For sensors Se isn't ever a blindspot/PoLR or demon.
What is his MBTI?I guess ENTP?
>>51960384Blind change is as ignorant as blind traditions.
>>51960228what the fuck does that even mean you idiot
Your ignorance is tremendous.
>>51960543They will lose a fight against an Se user
>>51960571He's probably too ignorant to understand the functions.
>>51955795Read Dostoevsky. Start with the heavenly Christmas tree.
>>51960586>>51960571Do you got any real world evidence to prove this claim?
>>51954555Is there yuri in this anime? I hate dykes but it looked good so I want to make sure
>>51960586>>51960571GSP and Demetrious Johnson are both ISFJ/ESFJ.
>>51954980>Of course! ISFJs are like us, but better. Endlessly loyal and hard-working. There's plenty of stories about INFJs leaving their partners for someone else, in some cases even shortly before the wedding, but you'll never hear about ISFJs doing the same.You guys are too gay, stop this immediately
>>51954980End yourself Sophiepedo.
ISFJWhat would I be if I was an extrovert?
>>51960926ESFJ, I'd assume.
>>51960041Why would I impregnate people based on their functions? Doesn't make sense to me, explain.
>>51961050The functions determine the personality of course.
>>51954555Which types are the most likely to become a NEET?I am a NEET as of today.
>>51960678That's just how Sophieanon always writes.
>>51961330In that case, he seems too bubbly to be an INFJ.
So i took the test 3 times and got INTP on all 3Try to describe me as best as you can so i can see if these tests have any merit
>>51961384lol he's INFJ playing a social game. that's not how he actually is. dude hates himself and others so much that he just fakes politeness to appear holier-than-thou. literally high-horse syndrome. i thought it was obvious tho?
Imagine being Adler in this thread and having to be all like "damn, Sophieanon you fuckin' namefagging, all psychological with your freudian beliefs and horrific effeminate emoticons. I would totally talk with you, Centaur and OwO." when all he really wants to do is discuss cognitive functions and archetypes with INTPs. Like seriously imagine having to be Adler and not only browse this board while Centaur talks about his virginity and pretends to understand physics, the unpaid moderators barely containing his off-topic posts, and just sit there, post after post, day after day, while he blogs about his life. Not only having to tolerate OwO's inane fucking faggotry but sophie's haughty attitude as he tells tells everyone "freud was 100% correct, Adler was 0% correct" and "DAMN being a namefag is ruining this thread?? because they're not the ones who have to sit there and watch Centaur express loneliness and mentall illnesses you didn't even know existed before that day. You've been enjoying nothing but educating the populace on individual pyschology and the truth on "trauma victims" for your ENTIRE CAREER coming straight out of the boonies in Austria. You've never even seen anyone this desperate for attention before, and now you hear the cries for acceptance that are breaking out through your monitor as they namefag, blog and quote your posts, smugly assured that you are enjoying the opportunity sit there and read their "cutesy (for that is what OwO calls it)" arguments, arguments you have disproven in every thread in the previous months. And then the OP creates another MBTI General, and you know you could logically best every single person on this website before the janitors gave you a 24hour ban, but you sit there and endure, because you're fucking Adler. You're not going to lose your highly successful medical and psychotherapeutic career over this. Just bear it. Hide your identity and bear it.
>>51961553I at least like Centaur because he is humble and has a sense of humility. The others are basic attention whores using the same ancient Chinese formula to garner (You)s while managing to never say anything substantial or worthwhile. It's incredible really. A study in arrogance, folly, and the pathetic, murky depths of the human heart.
>>51961577What ancient Chinese formula is that?
>>51961041>>51961047Oh so I'm basically ESFJ around my friend and ISFJ around strangers.
>>51958962/pol/ has a huge number of INTP/Js compared to the general population, it's really not difficult to see why, they're both highly introverted types, INTJs are very much attracted to alternate theories about the world and overall tend to be more right-wing, while INTPs enjoy conspiracies for opening the doors to new possibilities and theories they can day dream all day about, and they're the type most likely to vote Libertarian in America, which, though contradictory to the stereotype, is the most popular ideology on that board according to most polls.
>>51958798How can Turbie be so cute?
>>51961642He's Twink Chad. In that one Strawpoll, he got four votes for 'I want him to be my boyfriend.'
>>51961638Never said anything about /pol/ not being INTP/J, I'm saying parroting ideas/beliefs word for word without adding anything new or bringing forth any new theories/ideas of your own is not an intuitive trait.
>>51961577>I at least like Centaur because he is humble and has a sense of humilityLet me ask you, my student, does a humble man namefag, avatarfag and generally go out of his way to create an identity on an anonymous imageboard? Does the humble man fake expertise on a subject he knows nothing about, while dismissing that very subject as "not real science anyway" when he is disproven? With a sense of humility would Centaur be capable of admitting when he is wrong, instead opting for namecalling and stategies of avoidance to maintain he ego? And does a man of humility claim the only reason he's still a virgin is because he "doesn't think about sex enough", instead of accepting personal responsibility for his off-putting and undesirable self?
>grant-brownsword function type: INFP>axis-based function type: INFP>myers-briggs function type: INFP>most likely myers-briggs type: ISTPWhat's the magic here? All preceeding types are the same and differ from the last type.
ISTJ is based, prove me wrong protip: you literally can't
>>51961719Function tests are a meme, anon. Barely any better than 16 personalities despite what other people say.
>>51961700I mean Centaur is honest. He's young and naive but he's honest. He has a million coping strategies, can be abrasive, bitter and hateful, but the man is honest.Same can't be said for the other faggots here though.
>>51961742Sarkinova gives you multiple results not only based on functions though.The final result tries to weight both function and axis.
>>51961698You don't know enough about him to come to that conlusion, given the uniqueness of his attack, including the way he had the camera setup, him reciting the navyseal copypasta when arrested showing a complete disregard for the seriousness of his actions and openly mocking pretty much everyone, him going to another country to do it instead of just going on a shooting spree in a more local area, taking the time to write a manifesto beforehand, which again, compared to the vast number of "terrorist" attacks is rare.Your claim he just "parroted beliefs" is based on what exactly? The media calling him brainwashed? What evidence do you have these beliefs were not his own conclusions he himself as drawn? His pakistan comments alone are the opposite of what you'd get from a "white nationalist" and certainly not word-for-word from something he's read online.And given everything he did he did alone was very much an intuitive triat, he certianly wasn't emulating something he'd already seen.
>>51958673Te=Study MMA hard until they completely master the systemSensors= Train hard, work hard, study, watch trhe best and learn from the best, become top tier fightersFeelers=Think of something to fight for, put all their passion into their chosen art and never give up, in time become highly competant fightersIntuitives=Get in the ring, let it all come naturally, get their ass kicked by anyone with trainingTi user=Gets bored and starts daydreaming after the first round, no amount of training or studying will make them interested in paying attentionJust go do powerlifting, you make the biggest difference without requiring too much time investment
>>51961748this. imho centaur at least creates value by generating discussion through counterpoint. ive been in these shit generals for years and from my perspective, he filled a niche left behind by great posters of ole such as that ISTP guy who hated INTJs so much he posted a shitload of oc before presumably moving on with his life. sophie and turbie create zero value. they are just here to blog and compensate for their own irl shortcomings. sad!
>>51961553>when all he really wants to do is discuss cognitive functions and archetypes with INTPs>tfw no INTP generalWhat the fuck even is "the hermit"? The mage is the closest thing with an actual irl equivalent
>>51961794>You don't know enough about him to come to that conlusionYou're right, I don't know enough about him specifically to come to that conclusion, but there's the best thing close to that, which is his manifesto, aka how he thinks and what motivates him, is all written there. Based on that alone, I don't know if he's intuitive or not, but I do know that intuitives in general do things on the basis that they want to contribute something new, original, or unique, and according to his writing and his beliefs, nothing written there suggests that it's not what you'd expect from a /pol/ anti-immigration post.>including the way he had the camera setup, him reciting the navyseal copypasta when arrested showing a complete disregard for the seriousness of his actions and openly mocking pretty much everyone, him going to another country to do it instead of just going on a shooting spree in a more local area, taking the time to write a manifesto beforehand, which again, compared to the vast number of "terrorist" attacks is rare.I fail to see the correlation between setting up a camera in a certain way, reciting a meme, mocking people and being intuitive. Actions don't determine your type, your motivations and reasons do.
>>51961553I don't post emoticons...>>51961748>>51961493With rare exceptions, everything I post is completely sincere. I credit Paxil for most of that, though - I'm a lot moodier whenever I'm unmedicated.>>51961849>they are just here to blog and compensate for their own irl shortcomings. sad!I might be able to post about MBTI more if I wasn't having to defend myself all the time. I even dropped the name 2-3 days ago by popular demand in the hopes of clogging up the threads less, for all the good that's done since my name keeps being dragged up anyway.
https://www.loveshack.org/forums/breaking-up-reconciliation-coping/coping/138890-unrequited-love-best-friendWhat is OP's type? What is his best friend's type?
>>51961724Si hero is pretty interesting, allows for a lot of stored information. However, a lot of this information is incorrect or wasted if an ISTJ doesn't put it through their Te verification process. Even then, it can as unscrupulous as looking something up, reading the first article, and putting the thought to rest. Then if you confront them about their inaccuracy, they're often unrelentingly stubborn. Their Ti critic dislikes logical inconsistency and will nag them about the processes of their higher functions. It comes as no surprise to me that they don't like when someone else does that for them. The real danger, though, is in the relationship between the Si and Fi. I know an ISTJ that gets caught in a loop between the two. Si maifests through the thought "I don't want to experience this right now" and Fi is "I don't feel like it/ my morals won't allow it" and then they stagnate. The one I know can spout off information about a topic endlessly, but all he does is watch TV all day. Remember to always verify your knowledge, and also question external data occasionally.
How would you tell between Si and Ni auxiliary in typing somebody else?
lulzy pls cum back - i wont be mean
>>51961971OP: INFJBest Friend: ENFP
Which personality types correspond to which mental illnesses?
>>51963188I_T_ : all of themE_F_ : nothing.
>>51963188Based on functions:Ti = autismTe = sociopathFi = avoidantFe = narcissismSi = OCDNe = ADHDidk what Ni and Se are.
I'm INTP and I like dick.Does this correlate?
>>51963269INTP correlates with virgin whether you like dick or not.
>>51963269Yes, I have never known a straight INTP, and I've only known one who isn't trans (though he still sends people pictures of himself wearing thigh highs because he likes being cute).
>>51963250Ni = schizotypalSe = histrionic
>>51963348Spot on, thanks
>>51963250According to this as an estp in the function stack i would be histronic autistic narssacist with a hint of schizotypal. Yikes that sounds pretty fucked
>>51963348>>51963359How does Se amount to histrionicness? I would think that it would correlate more with hedonism.
>>51963433"hedonism" isn't a personality disorder.
>>51963420>loves living in the present and being center of attention>has an autistic skill with witty jokes and leadership>lives to please themselves, always maximizing self-image>prone to outlandish ideas and forming cultssounds legit
>tfw INFJ>own a diary>tfw people say that journals are for men and diaries are for women>tfw will continue referring to it as a diary until the day I die because the word 'journal' is dry and boringDo any other INFJs know this feel?
>>51963250According to this as an estp in the function stack i would be histronic autistic narssacist with a hint of schizotypal. Yikes that sounds pretty fucked >>51963454>>51963454Dosent mean i dont have ppl i care for and genuine want to see them succeed. That would be reserved for family and close friends however. Maturity plays a big part aswell i assume.
>>51963348owo is NOT histrionic
>>51963348I'm an INFP but I was diagnosed schizotypal.
>>51963574this is just harmless speculation, there are always variations and differing degrees of behavior>>51963629shut the fuck up>>51963807based INFP, welcome to the akashic side
>>51961724most based ISTJ coming thru
>>51959011>What are your favorite wonders of nature, by the way?Hmmm... flowers are the first thing that comes into my mind! They are so colorful and have fascinating details! It's spring now where I live, so it's nice to feel the warmth and interesting to see how the snow melts once again! ^_^>>51959230I did understand that perfectly~!>>51959622>More importantly INxJs experience Se like a child would. Reality is almost magical to them.So much this! I don't think I ever really outgrew the "everything is interesting" phase! \(^_^)/>>51960062That's fine in my opinion! Nice to see something different for a chance! UwU>>51960083He's an INFJ-T, just like me! (>^_^)><(^_^<)(Hey! That rhymes!)>>51960678Nothing wrong with some sweetness~! <3>>51961642D-dunno... i-it just happens! '^_^>>51961671OwO>>51961748>>51961849Eh... I admit that my posting style isn't overly cute outside /mbti/, but I do use for example emoticons in other threads! The test results are also real and my OC is actually made by me! In addition, almost everything I have posted about myself (life details, personality, appearance, interests, dreams, etc.) are true! :3c>>51961916>I don't post emoticons...You do post the <3 sometimes, and if I remember correctly, you have used the :( at least once~!>>51963629Thanks! \(^w^)
>>51961553I'm sure Adler would find our community and discussions utterly intriguing! :3
What type is most likely to fall in love with fictional characters? uwu
>>51963996Congrats, you've outdone yourself and win the "gayest post in 4chan history" award
>>51964069N types obviously.Probably INFJ
>>51963996>for a chanceSorry, meant "for a change" of course~! ^_^;;;
>>51963996>You do post the <3 sometimes, and if I remember correctly, you have used the :( at least once~!Aww, I'm glad Turbie pays such close attention to me. <3 You've posted about your dreams before? What are they?>>51964069>>51964107Can confirm, though it's something that happens very rarely with me. Off the top of my head, the examples that come to mind are Sekai Saionji from School Days, Hanako from Katawa Shoujo, Hatsune from Kara no Shoujo, and the minor character from Amagi Brillant Park who gets involved with some love letter drama.
>>51954555ISTP here. I'd really like to meet some ISFP/ISFJ peeps and see what they're like.
>had to write some final thoughts for each classmate in their final year photo album>literally just written a bunch of inspirational quotes off of the internet for them because i never actually talked to them enough to make up some sort of idea on what they were like>was also never interested enough in noticing any of their behaviors and i was usually just stuck in my own world and mind during school time>only opinion i had about most of my classmates was ''insufferable cunts for the most part and obnoxious as fuck too''Of course I couldn't just write that down in their photo albums though, so yeah.The only time I ever feel like giving someone legit compliments is if they actually ''earned'' it in some way, and the only time I ever do in fact hand out compliments or attempt to be emotional to someone about something is if I actually liked them somewhat or found them to be tolerable enough to talk to for the most part.>but then what my classmates actually wrote about me felt generic as fuck, especially since it was almost the same shit at everyone>''u calm, u good, u smart, u honest, me likey. u cool and alright dude :)''It's weird hearing any of that, especially the smart part at least because I don't feel like I ever did anything to 'earn' the right to be called smart by someone else.I feel like I'm acting like some sort of obnoxious and uptight snob at times though, especially when I can just ''tell'' that I might be acting or saying something in such a way that it makes it seem as if I'm considering everyone else around to be retarded and beneath me, while I'm the most intelligent person in the room, I just feel like I might make things sound like that sometimes, it's weird. I only started noticing a lot more things like this about myself, my personality or just my personal, the way 'i am' very recently and it still confuses me as to why I'm only noticing it now.
>>51964240My mom's an ISFJ. If you marry one, you've won the game of life. They'll never leave you, they'll never fall out of love, and they'll never stop working hard for your sake.
'INTJs are simultaneously the most starry-eyed idealists and the bitterest of cynics as these types tend to believe that with effort, intelligence and consideration, nothing is impossible, while at the same time they believe that people are too lazy, short-sighted or self-serving to actually achieve those fantastic results'
>>51964313Ni in a nutshell: having many apparently contradictory beliefs and connecting them in a way that actually does make sense, especially if they have Te and use objective/evidence-based logic.
what type is komaeda from Danganronpa 2?
>>51964451Why do people say that Kotonoha from School Days is an INFJ?
>>51961553giving a you for effort>>51963807pretty sure all infps are schizoids, though we have delusions we don't actually believe them even though we do believe they'll happen. I mean we're close to being schizos.>>51964311>got set up with an isfj girl >dated for 3 months>broke up with her cause she was an international studentshe still talks to me and i'm a dick to her cause i hate her and i want her to stop talking to me cause she told me i wasnt good enough for her when we broke up. basically, i agree, they'll never leave you, they take relationships really seriously and they're in it for the long haul. only girl i ever dated and probs ever will. >>51964313pic related, god i know an intj and he thinks he's better then everyone else and he can't stop being smug about everything and giving lectures about things no one cares about while also being contrarian for the sake of it cause he wants to show off his big brain. his contradictions never end and his switching from idealist to cynic pisses me off so much.
>>51964527>his contradictions never end and his switching from idealist to cynic pisses me off so much.lmao
>>51961748Haha what? Every other thing that flies out of his mouth is a lie. For example a while ago he used to spread fake negative information about types to make people feel bad about their type. He has a split tongue.
>>51964758Interestingly I don't see that as a negative though. It only shows me how much more honest he is about his flaws. He doesn't pretend to be perfect.
>>51964527im sorry anon, im sure underneath it all he just wants a hug like everyone else haha
>>51964805Neither do Sophie or owo or anyone else in these threads.
>>51964837You're naive if you don't think so.
>>51964805Are you retarded? He spread FAKE information about OTHER peoples types. It was neither honest nor about himself.
>>51964958If you have half a brain you can decipher his bullshit though. Is this INFJ cope? Do you get upset when people poke fun at your type?
What do you expect of someone who's Fi dominant but weak in Fe?
>>51964847owo's a semi-larp, but Sophie is just a regular guy. Is 4chan so misanthropic that anyone who's friendly and polite has to be a fake Mary Sue?
>>51965004Sophie has posted so much irrelevant autobiographical narcissistic nonsense here that you could search the catalog and write an updated Sorrows of Young Werther for the jaded overstimulated internet age by compiling his posts alone. It has to stop.
>>51964989Very strong personal morality that very frequently defies society/common values, very idealistic person who however cannot influence people and is highly misunderstood.
>>51965035His blogposting was usually an investigation of functions and MBTI types. You guys just lose your heads when anyone uses a name.
ISFJ's are good? I thought people hated my type here?
>>51965035Er I meant search the archive, but whatever.>>51965059>usuallyI think you mean "rarely."
>>51965068It's good, but it's easy to joke around ISFJ males due to their very feminine nature.
>>51965109I'm honestly not feminine at all in terms of hobbies or outlook, but I am good at stuff like cooking and derive happiness from helping others with their problems.
>>51965179Yeah, ISFJ is a personality so that's the point.My only "complaint" about ISFJ, if you can call this one, it's thinking they should stop being a total doormat, for their own good.
>>51964970Irrelevant. You say he is honest, thats not true. Stop sucking some sad losers dick on the internet
>>51965304>Stop sucking some sad losers dick on the internetHaha. No, I'm just being objective.
>>51965035>>51965089I overdid it sometimes, but my posts usually did relate to functions or were just me relating to others and replying to conversations they'd started themselves. Isn't it normal for Fe users to share their thoughts and experiences anyway? I think my Sayakaposter fren can confirm that, whenever we talk, I focus just as much on him as I do myself.
>>51965338Objectively choking on dick, yes.Look, i'm gonna break it down once again for you. If you spread FAKE information about SOMEONE ELSE you are neither being honest nor are you saying anything about yourself. So not only are you not "objective", you also lack basic reading comprehension. If you still dont understand then i cant help you.
enfp tard here, feel free to ask me about stuff
>>51963188>have some oregano
>>51965487cool im a shcizopherneice :)
>>51965439whats your opinion on intj?t. intj
>>51965487>INTP covers the largest areaAll other types btfo, only big area boys allowed here.
>>51965487>Yeah none of y'all are surprised by this.
>>51965525they're okay. some seem really nice. never met a stereotypical know-it-all intj, even though they seem to do really pretentious things at times. i don't really understand the intj-enfp paring, by socionics (which i got introduced firstly, and only after that i found out about mbti) enfp's ideal partner is istp. and i quite agree with that. istps are awesome and they look good. i can start talking about "it's not about the type, it's about the person" bullshit, but all of us already know about it.
>>51965606ugly ISTP here hmu bb
>>51965616sure buddy, but i'm not sure it's safe to post your personal info here so one random enfp retard can maybe talk to you someday
>>51965598he talks like a filthy nigger
>>51965347Question for when Sayakanigger gets on: have you seen any pictures of Sophie? Tell us about how ugly and/or fat he is.
>>51965347>but my posts usually did relate to functionsNo they didn't you're living in a fantasy world, functions to you are merely tools to further your never ending quest for attention>Isn't it normal for Fe users to share their thoughts and experiences anyway?See here, instead of seeing Fe for the actual natural cognitive function it is, you have chosen it to be your comfort blanket, it rationalises to your small, feeble mind why you are allowed to talk about your life non-stop, and how the people rightfully calling you out are just "misunderstanding" you.You are not misunderstood sophie, just uneducated, uneducated to my extended works, but with patience and study you too can be enlightened.
>>51961748I only come to 4chan to shitpost. There's no point - no pride - in making quality content that's going to be pruned in a couple hours.
>>51966234I feel naked without any kind of Identification. I did post for 10 years on conventional message boards before touching 4chan for the first time.The fact is, talking about yourself is only natural in personality threads. And even then, most of my posts were moralizing and philosophizing rather than posting about myself. Most of the posts about myself were asking about where I fall on the -version spectrum or asking about whether my thought processes indicate Si or Ni. That's what these threads are for>>51966287You should, you've always been a good poster.
>>51966371>I feel naked without any kind of Identification. I did post for 10 years on conventional message boards before touching 4chan for the first time.That's your issue. You can always go back to conventional forums if that does not suit your style, instead of forcing us to accept your shit.You make a good point however, this is a personality thread so yes, talking about yourself is natural - I did the same, yet I don't have any name, you don't know which poster I am.
>>51961890> nothing written there suggests that it's not what you'd expect from a /pol/ anti-immigration post.Apart from his views on pakistan, yes? /pol/ and 4chan in general are very, very niche boards depsite the claims here otherwise and both are Ti and Ni heavy, the fact he came off like a /pol/ack to you is telling, but not in way you think it is>setting up a camera in a certain way, reciting a meme,They are clues to his mindset you daft cunt, by analysing how he chose to do things we can see how he thought in the moment, doing something and writing what you want people to think are two very different things, the fact he went out of his way to set the camera up, to the point people have compared it to looking like a FPS it telling, there are been many, many instances like this, but his style was certainly unique>Actions don't determine your type, your motivations and reasons do.And there was nothing in his reasoning that would suggest typing one way or another, aside from the fact he browsed a board that has a much higher concentration of INTxs than elsewhere. Actions themselves may not determine type, but style and methodology are certainly a result of it, and his style and methods were unique, they have not been done before, which would certainly lend a certain precedent for him being intuitive
>>51954555isfjs are abhorrent, they're the second worst (esfjs being the worst, obviously)
>>51966463>esfjs being the worstExplain this without "fuck normies", thanks.
>>51963250>ADHD, Autism, narcissism, OCDChecks out
>>51954555How do you do this huh
>>51963250>>51963348I love narcisistic schizotypal girls with a hint of histrionic and autism.
>>51966512Do what? Lather ISFJs with love? Just tell them how special they are and give them hugs!
>>51966463>esfjs being the worst, obviouslysomeone hates his mom
>>51966371>talking about yourself is only natural in personality threadsIt's a false equivalency sophie, again you offer excuses.Two INTPs may discuss aspects of their personal lives to compare with one another and to increase their understanding of past experiences to further their knowledge of how their minds work. You in this thread have written the words "Aww, I'm glad Turbie pays such close attention to me. <3", and complained in every other post about having to drop your name due to popular demand, and although the latter part was humerous to everyone else it is merely you wanting to vent about your problems instead of having a real discussion.>most of my posts were moralizing and philosophizingA sad and tragic claim. Marcus Aurelius was "moralizing and philosophizing", you are desperate and needy.But I am not the gatekeeper to "what is philosophy", philosophical and psychological understanding can be yours, just. READ. MY. BOOKS.
>>51966463God tier:xNTxOK tier:xSTxWhat the fuck was God thinking tier:xSFxxNFx
>>51966570i'm glad adler woke up, he's really on point with the mad bantz
>>51965347You do, also when helping others you tend to bring up your past experiences with similar issues, I think its nice because it gives people something to relate to. Calling you someone who talks about himself too much is the last thing I'd ever think of.>>51966163He's pretty attractive.
>>51966636Post pics of sophie
how the FUCK DO I STOP BEING INTP AND START BEING ISTP AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>51966636this faggot replying to himself like we can't tellsophie ban when? can't come soon enough
>>51966769you dont. accept yourself being INTP
>>51966743No, why would I do something like that?>>51966844You're free to believe what you want, it's not like I could say anything to convince you otherwise in the first place, you've already decided in your head on what to believe.
>>51966769You don't, develop Si instead.
>>51966928Because you said he's cute?????
>>51966769>be an emotionless robot>desire to be a slightly different emotionless robotI see the man of the 21st century sets his goals high. You will never become a sensor, and if you can successfuly larp as one you will forever be a sub-par pretender, you should instead embrace your own strengths and weaknesses.For instance INTPs, while lazier and weaker than sensors, can be far more original and creative when they embrace their Ne, even spontaneous, they are also gifted with with an insight into the abstract, being able to travel into the deepest depths of philosophy, psychology (i'm somewhat of a "100% correct" expert myself) and even theology, their ancient roles as Shamans is testament to their weird and wonderous minds. No man is without his trappings, nor his gifts.>>51966636>Calling you someone who talks about himself too much is the last thing I'd ever think of.And thinking at all is the last thing you'd ever do, we would improve our fortune seeking blood from a stone then gaining truth from the likes of you, begone, begone foul samefag.
Why are there never any other ESTPs in these?
>>51966944That doesn't mean it's okay to post pictures of your friend on the internet...
>>5196656030% of children with diagnozed autism are Ti doms with Fe dom mothersESFJs destroy lives
>>51967046Moms dont cause autism by behavior.
why can i never enjoy sensory things as an INTP? it's super nice out today and i took a walk. i never get that warm and nice feeling i used to get as a kid when it was really nice out. i used to be able to enjoy being outside and i want to again, but now it's just boring and lame and i'll get sunburnt if i stay out too long and bitten by mosquitos. is this inherent to INTPs, or is this just a part of my personality? do other INTPs enjoy being outside on a nice day?
>>51966844>>51967009Our writing styles aren't even similar, you dumb niggers.Anyway, MBTI stuff. Does anyone else think that Sensors have an underrated ability to be creative and experimental? My mom's an ISFJ, and she's way more open to change and new ideas than my dad. My dad is an ENFP, probably (an angry one), and he's the one with an "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" attitude who always goes on rants about how everything was better in the old days and how change annoys him.
>>51967090Yeah everyone enjoys being outside, the fresh air and sunlight is good for you a releases hormones that relax your body, it has nothing to do with personality. It's like asking which type enjoys finishing a gym session, endorphins are being released everyone enjoys it.
>>51966769ISTP isnt that much better. i used to score INTP when i was younger but i was just mistyped (didnt read the descriptions). basically enjoy the present more and dont concern yourself with things that have no applicable solution (that being said researching things can be fun for their own sake so idk)
>>51967009>is the last thing I'd ever think of.>And thinking at all is the last thing you'd ever do,How can avatarfags even compete?
>>51954555ISFJ here. Ask me anything.
>>51967370What does your ideal relationship looks like?
>>51967370Are you single?Do you think it's possible to be happy as a single ISFJ?Do you want to be a housewife/househusband?What MBTI do you like the least, and which one do you like the most?What do you like to do in your free time?
>>51967370Nice. Hello fellow ISFJ
>>51967370have you realIy been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
>>51967370How did you come to the concluision that you were an ISFJ?
Asking what are the subtle differences when it comes to knowing if you're INTJ or INFJ?
>>51968089The difference actually isn't very subtle at all. INTJs are hypermasculine autists. INFJs are exceedingly feminine feelers.
Lulzy come back. The server is not the same without you. We miss you :(
>>51968110I mean the subtle ones. I'm not sure about Te+Fi and Fe+Ti
>>51968278That difference alone is huge dude
>>51968296>That difference alone is huge dudein what way?
Can someone link to the server for MBTI generals
>>51967544Answer those questions yourself pls, Sayakaposter
>>51968338There you go..gg/5Enuer3
>>51967370Sorry, I got distracted by anime.>>51967436Someone that will never lie to me. Honesty is very important to me. We enjoy a stable/simple lifestyle with occasional adventures to experience new things. >>51967544Are you single? NoDo you think it's possible to be happy as a single ISFJ? Yes. If you have a community/family that you are involved in.Do you want to be a housewife/househusband? No. But I do like taking care of people. As a guy, some people call me their mom because I always remind them to do things.What MBTI do you like the least, and which one do you like the most? I do not like ENTP males. They are boastful and loud. They also tend to lie more often than others. I enjoy INTP. They are interesting.What do you like to do in your free time? I enjoy mmorpgs and turnbased games. My reflexes are too slow for shooters now. I also started enjoying anime. >>51967567Hope you are OK.>>51968067MBTI ISTJ but Jungian ISFJ. I am very analytical about possibilities in life; the "what ifs." A lot of overthinking and Si-Ti loop. While other people can remember weird facts or sports, I tend to remember mostly about people and their experiences. People are surprised that I remember what they tell me. I also like to prefer peace in the various communities I am a part of.
>>51968409>Someone that will never lie to me. Honesty is very important to me. We enjoy a stable/simple lifestyle with occasional adventures to experience new things.That really resembles my father, who's ISFJ too.
>>51964211>You've posted about your dreams before? What are they?Y-yeah... I described my dream job in an /mbti/ thread some time ago:https://desuarchive.org/r9k/thread/51591231/#51592709>>51965347>>51966636I agree that sharing experiences is a Fe/INFJ thing, and as I pointed out in the previous thread, the motivation behind is not narcissistic thirst for attention (didn't use those exact words, but the idea was this)! I think I'm more a listener than a talker, but if I give advice, my first instinct probably is to share a personal experience (assuming I've been through something relevant or related). ^.^'>>51965439Ok then! ^_^1. Did you draw that? (Nice picture, by the way~!)2. Have you done the 16p test? If yes, was it the new or the old version, and are you assertive or turbulent?:3. What's your opinion on INFJs and ISFJs?>>51965487>high on obsessive-compulsiveC-can relate~. :'3>>51967104>Does anyone else think that Sensors have an underrated ability to be creative and experimental?I haven't heard of this before, but I'm open and interested! What kind of ability is this? OwO>>51967370>>519684091. What kind of anime do you like?2. Are you ISFJ-A or ISFJ-T?:3. Do you like hugs?4. How long have you been in /mbti/ generals?
>>51968380Hmm, alright.>Are you single?Yes.>Do you think it's possible to be happy as a single ISFJ?In general, yes, I think they just need someone/something to take care of, even if it isn't a spouse.>Do you want to be a housewife/househusband?Yes, it seems like an extremely gratifying life.>What MBTI do you like the least, and which one do you like the most?I don't really have much experience with typing people and don't know all the differences in all the types, but INTPs come across as the most annoying and whiny to me (I'm sure there's a lot of nice ones out there though), and my best friend in INFJ so I would have to pick that as my favorite.>What do you like to do in your free time?Watch let's plays and anime, play video games when I can find ones that pique my interest, I like stuff like S.T.A.L.K.E.R. and The Witcher 3 and used to play a lot of Grand Strategy, also War Thunder but that's more of an addiction that I'm trying to overcome as opposed to an actually good game. I also like reading about tanks and planes and just history in general. I like hiking and outdoors stuff too but I have nobody to do it with and am too shy and anxious and con't have a car to do it by myself. I liked playing sports in gym class too when I was in school even though I'm not very athletic.
>>51968110wrong one of my best friends is INFJ and i would have never suspected it. i thought hes INTP or INTJ
>>51968720>The Witcher 3best girl?
>>51968759Controversial opinion ahead: Triss.
Judging people based on their type is beyond retarded. It just gives you a general idea, but is in no way a 100% accurate descriptor.Some idiots were trying to discourage me yesterday from pursuing combat sports simply because I'm INTP and saying "le Se will beat you"So many clueless fucks here. Nah dude, not discipline, not fight IQ, not dedication, not speed, but "Se", is all that matters for them. It's just a fucking internet test, INTPs aren't all born from the same parents.
>>51968409Chilling and amused at all the attention you garnered, all good. You havin' a good day?
>>51968837ofc its retarded. people who take this 100% serious are retarded. we're just trying to have some funt. ISTP with ENTP best friends
>>51968852No real reason honestly, I just like how she looks better, as far as personality I liked both Triss and Yen, so that was the only tipping point. Shani is cool too.
>>51968885>I just like how she looks better,I also have a thing for redheads but her default hairstyle is fucking atrocious. DLC is much better.
>>51961841That's fucking dumb you retarded faggot. All the greatest thinkers of the ancient world (Greece for example) went to war and participated in combat sports, like pugilism.Besides, what you say about Te, actually is more fitting for Ti.
>>51968409>They are boastful and loudt. can't take the bantsYou truly are an ISFJ. Sad!
>>51968946>ENTPs doing banterThat's not what the ISFJ meant.
>>51968981and here comes the IxFx white knight defense squad
>>519686991. What kind of anime do you like?Magic, fantasy, adventure. Don't enjoy cute girls doing cute things.2. Are you ISFJ-A or ISFJ-T?Don't know about this.:3. Do you like hugs?Not really.4. How long have you been in /mbti/ generals?Years. Just come in to ctrl+f ISFJ. Years ago, mbti general was less about cognitive functions. I'm glad that has changed.>>51968878I'm OK. Attention is weird. I lurked r9k for over 10 years before posting. But it really helped me be more active IRL and less anxious about things.>>51968946I'm sure an ISFJ female will enjoy your company. ENTP are the mirror type and they compliment each other in romantic relationships.
>>51969024What's next, Ixxx defense squad?
>>51967035LameSo how different is Sophie off of r9k? Is the whole I'm-so-sweet-and-nice-to-everyone Mary Sue act just a larp?
>>51969083>ISFJ female will enjoy your company.No way. I've found most introverts to not make good partners for me. I think I'd prefer a fellow ENTP girl, dying alone is another attractive option
>>51969170I know you're joking, but just mention the fact that waifus are retarded and only for lonely losers, and all of the introvert roaches will come crawling out of their woodwork to try and smite you (those that have the capacity to feel things, anyway)
>>51968933>. All the greatest thinkers of the ancient world (Greece for example) went to war and participated in combat sports, like pugilism.All men were expected to take part in martial arts yes, they preached balanced life styles which fit Ti users well, but in the modern world athletes do not live balanced lives, they need to be 100% dedicated to their task and forego any notion of balance, it's this reason why INTPs, despite being highly intelligent, are not known for being high achievers, things capture their interests and they move on, Ne forever reaching out for new ideas, new experiences to satisfy Ti's thirst for knowledge, there is no satisfaction for them in exploring trodden ground.>Besides, what you say about Te, actually is more fitting for Ti.No it really isn't, Te loves and values systems, they take things apart and improve them, it's a function designed for creating, taking in information, studying and mastering. Ti on the other hand creates, yes, it's own systems though, a Ti martial artist would end up wanting to create his own style, or question if there's a different way of doing "x".Perhaps you will prove me wrong, but I could not even imagine an INTP becoming a top tier fighter, a teacher maybe, but a Se dom would fare much better
>>51969083Weren't you told to fuck off?
INFJ = literally hitlerINFP = selfish judgment monster
>>51969417However:ENFP = just some very optimistic and cheerful dudeENFJ = Empathy and Understanding (TM)
>>51954555Highly considering getting some kind of work in Alaska over the summer. Just dont really know how to go about it. t. ISTP
>>51969620dont. seems nice at first but you'll get bored with the monotony in time.t. ISTP
>>51959622Do IXFPs experience Te as a chiild would? How would that be understood?
>>51969691Although I dont doubt a good bit of it will probably get monotonous overtime the $$$ is something I will be willing to overlook on top of the fact that it wont be McDonalds or some shit. Plus I would be in Alaska during the summer months, tons of innawoods or onnamountain shit to do amongst other things. A change of pace would be more than nice too, as well as more savings in the pocket.
>>51969794you can probably spend a year there and not get bored. plus the money is nice
>>51964824what a faggot then hahaha
lmao fuck enfps
>>51968338Did you like your stay?
>>51970543:/ not at all. Just your typical drama-filled r9k server
>>51970940Who was your favorite character?
>>51969310Depends what your goals are. I see martial arts as a mean to liberty. I can say and do whatever I want, I fear no man. Imposing your will upon the world. I'm the kind of guy who will grind a lot if I know it's for a good reason. It's why I never was interested by just lifting weights, because ultimately ... you can only lift heavier shit, but you dont know how to defend yourself better. See, you keep thinking in memes. "The INTP will never focus on anything" What the fuck do you know about INTPs? If we find something we love, and it has a legitimate place in the great puzzle, we have no reason to drop it. What is the alternative to martial arts? There is none. It's something any man should know.Shit dude, are you really just going to disregard all the Ti martial artists? It seems to me most of the masters used Ti.
>>51970983>are you really just going to disregard all the Ti martial artists? It seems to me most of the masters used Ti.Yeah, ISTPs.
>>51971023Nah dude you said Ti, not INTPs. So you were talking about all the functions, but you were going to mention INTPs specifically?
>>51971042Follow the replylqueue again.
>>51971080Nah you were belittling Ti, then you talked about INTP separately. In any case, do you do martial arts yourself or you're just talking out of your ass?
>>51969712Yes they do. IxFPs perception of power is unnuanced and straightforwards. To them what works is what works. If you don't like an ant then you squash it. >>51970940what's it like in there? What do they talk about?
>>51970983>Imposing your will upon the worldINTPs do not usually take an interest in imposing their will or anything, nor having anyone elses will imposed on them, which is something that makes them poor learners, they question everything which makes learning and mastering a subject a long and tedious journey, they prefer a self-learning style, to find the truth on their own.>I'm the kind of guy who will grind a lot if I know it's for a good reasoSensors do know the value of hard work>What the fuck do you know about INTPsI am an INTP, though I'll not completely resort to appeal to authority and cite the fact my posts have explained in detail to you how Ti works against Te and you have not actually argued back with any substance, merely continued to make your original claim that has already been answered. Ti users do not make top tier fighters.>If we find something we love, and it has a legitimate place in the great puzzle, we have no reason to drop itSpoken like a feeler, very moving. And nothing says puzzling like asking what punch to throw and when.>It's something any man should know.Absolutely, go learn some martial arts, I have done plenty of boxing myself, it's boring but I like to stay in shape and I've seen first hand the types of people who excel in the sport, they aren't introverted thinkers, though this is purely anecdotal on my part, I believe I've explained the reasoning behind this to you well enough.>Shit dude, are you really just going to disregard all the Ti martial artists?Name some.> It seems to me most of the masters used Ti.They don't, Ti would make them niche fighters at best, too experimental and impractical, a stronger Si may help but they have a huge disadvantage against someone who naturally relies on their Se function.
>>51971142That wasn't me posting, which should have been obvious, but in any case I was never belittling Ti, I pride myself on my logic and reasoning, however cringey that may be to read, and I think it's important to state the good and the bad with each triat we possess, Ti is amazing, I love how my mind works and I wouldn't want to be any other way than myself, it really lets you think for yourself, it means everything is something to be questioned, everything is potential waiting for you to see how it connects, I can spend an entire day dreaming deeply and still be unable to sleep because I thought one last thing which gets me excited againBut it has flaws, it works in opposition to Te, which means you are not going to grasp external systems as quickly, you are not going to be top of that engineering class and the INTJ IS going to look back and wonder why you even turned up, your questions and focus on the grand idea will mean you struggle to address it's underpinnings and it's applications, you are not going to learn as quickly as a sensor, or be as passionate as a feeler, and frankly the combination of Ti/Fe means you'll always be slightly effeminate, which will come off an incredibly awkward because your Ti is telling you you don't need feelings and the lack of Se means you can't even act them.Sorry for any spelling mistakes or ramblings I've stayed up way too late, and yes I do have some "experience" with fighing, as in I took boxing classes, and where I was in OK shape since I go running anyway, the fact was whenever I was doing cardio my mind was elsewhere wheras other guys there were 100% in the zone and could get in that mindset in a heartbeat, however like I said before, my own experiences are anecdotal and should not be taken as any part of what I've explained, nor would I claim they do, but the fact you have repeatedly asked for experience seems like a sensory thing in the first place, every other INTP would want rational, not personal experience.
>>51971383>INTPs do not usually take an interest in imposing their will or anythingSpeak for yourself. I see dumb shit and I wish people listened to me instead.>Sensors do know the value of hard workHuh, sure.>have explained in detail to you how Ti works against TeBut that is not really how Te works.>boxingTry MMA.>Name some.Bruce lee, for one. GSP. Demetrious Johnson. They're not Ti doms but they're not Se users either. But some will say Bruce Lee is ISTP.>Ti would make them niche fighters at bestAnd? Not my problem if you don't like martial arts or anything that requires coordination.>And nothing says puzzling like asking what punch to throw and when.The Great Puzzle, you fucking idiot. Capital G and P. You should know what that means if you were INTP.>spoken like a feelerwhat the fuck. You can't talk normally? Just a massively boring guy.
I am a intjWhat does mean?
>>51971685You can't talk to me about INTPs being bad martial artists if you've never even tried it yourself, that's my point. You people live in a cloud of theory and nothing else. Martial Arts is not necessarily an "external system". It's you and your body, and eventually you will have many things that will be tailored to yourself.
>>51971746The results page of whatever test you took will tell you exactly what it means
>>51954555>watch fma:b op/ed>feel intense wave of nostalgia>immediately remember that we'll never be able to do anything actually cool and that we're just here to dieWaaaaaah please hug me!
>>51970399Why do you hate enfps? Did they do something bad to you?
so I'm INFP does that mean I'm okay?
>be INTP>will never discover the secrets of the universe>want to diethat's all for me folks, goodnight
I feel like politics ruins this site sometimes. I don't browse pol anymore because it's just the same retard wignat vs condescending fedora conversation every thread. In fact it doesn't matter which board or thread anymore, if anyone mentions the big elephant in the room it all goes to shit. As someone who probably holds the opinion you are posting, polfags please fuck off. >inb4 expecting high level discussion anywhere on a Tibetan basket weaving forum Yeah, I know.
>>51971771>You people live in a cloud of theory and nothing else.Yes, the essence of INTP.
>>51956466if you are gonna turn yourself into a shemale you better let me get first dibs on that bussy
>>51972645Why do you want Sophieanon's bussy
>>51972614that's pretty lame honestly I guess I am a bit selfish at least I'm kinda cute
>>51972604Nah, eventually you should find what's real. If you live in a cloud of theory your whole life, you never figured out anything. Academics and "intellectuals" are the worst race. All a bunch of cunts who live in the city. There is a difference between taking a long time to figure out something by unconventional means, and living in nothingness forever, and it's really retarded that a lot of INTPs pride themselves in the latter. I kind of used to pride myself in that as well, but that was years ago, and it's beyond retarded, to be honest. It's true that the quest for truth never ends, but if you never figured out anything, or had any convictions your whole life because of it, you're not smart, you're a fucking monkey, and I want nothing to do with your bunch.
>>51973114What have you figured out yet?
>>51972764It's not so bad. It's just that idealists are natural tyrants who live completely in their own head. The way that they go about mapping or modeling the world in order to make sense of it is by intuitively constructing abstracted models or images of prototypes and then judging the fidelity between the image and the prototype, or in other words: "Why is my idea of this thing different from how it actually is in reality?". This is what is meant by INFPs valuing "authenticity". Someone or something is authentic if it agrees with their own idea of it. They're constantly judging the entire world. Luckily, for everyone's elses sake, they're so self-absorbed that their judgment is usually directed inwards at themselves.
>>51973222Should probably replace idea with feeling. INFPs are really good at judging people, though. Their gut feelings about people are almost always right.
>>51973213Such a dumb question. By comparison to what? To you?
>>51973664How don't you understand that question? What did you figure out that you wouldn't in a cloud of theory?
>>51973725Everything in my reality? Where am I supposed to start?
I ship off to boot camp in 5 weeks
>>51970399i love/hate enfps
owo is so cute
>>51972496What secrets are there you wanted to discover? The universe has like two things in it, and they're quite alike. >>51973865Make sure to tell us how it goes, you're an INTP right? A lot of people here say INTPs suck in the military since they're too "free thinking" but personally I think they'd fit in just fine.Do they have internet in boot camp?
>>51964824he does and because i was open to him he opened up to me and showed me that he actually has emotions and is more then just an edgelord. he's a decent bloke and i like hanging out with him but the intj stuff can get on my nerves when it pops up.
>>51969417>selfish judgement monster100% correct and i'm trying to embrace it instead of being ashamed of it.>>51972345no unless you're a healthy infp or an infp-a>>51973395this is true
>>51974890>What secrets are there you wanted to discover?the theory that unifies physics would be a cool start>The universe has like two things in it, and they're quite alike. wut, matter and antimatter?
>>51975591What would it mean to discover a theory that unifies physics, and why are you so attracted to the idea? Why do you feel like it's the sort of thing you should expect to be doing with your life?Also I didn't have anything particular in mind, the universe just seems rather samey and dull imo.
>>51969417The judgments only seems monstrous when your own conscious is telling you the same thing forcing you to confront your demons. The monster you see is that which we reveal in you in the hopes you'll overcome it. Of there wasn't soke truth to the judgments I'd be a simple task to just dismiss and ignore us. I'd ask who hurt you but I think the better question might be who did you hurt that you're still denying responsibility over?
ENFJ is the perfect gf, prove me wrong.
>>51976774I'd say infj or isfj. Enfj basically have savior complex and once they fix you, they move on.
I'm INTP and I feel like everyone around me is retarded. First impression I ever get from most people that I don't get along with instantly is just "yup. retard."I hate loud talking faggots who can't keep their damn mouths shut and attempt to pry into others personal lives. I hate emotional pussies who let themselves and their decisions be influenced by their emotions, especially when they don't listen to reason as well. Goddamnit I hate pretty much everything about other people who don't share any sort of similarities with me.
>>51976880>enfj>cheatingMUH FE VALUES is too strong for that.They either refuse you beforehand or will keep being your faithful wife no matter how hard it gets for them.
>>51976881this is why i hate other INTPs but honestly i hate most people too so whatever
>>51976928ENFJs, ESFJs, INFJs, and ISFJs almost never turn people down. Their Fe makes the idea of hurting people unbearable.
>>51976881Most people being retarded is a fact, whether you are INTP or not but...>Goddamnit I hate pretty much everything about other people who don't share any sort of similarities with me.That however isn't anything good.By being more tolerant of others you can find out they are better than they seem sometimes, there are many factors in play such as public image or just more actively seeking for acceptance.Think about it, how do people see you? Only the parts you actually show, not the parts inside your head; what would you think of yourself? Is this on what you would be want to judged for?Remember you are doing it to others.>>51977052ENFJs support themselves with Ni, while it's appealing to please people in the moment and make somebody smile by not refusing, they know this is gonna be bad in the long run, so they will be refusing you unless they can envision a future together.Better turning you down politely and keep supporting you as a friend instead of ruining the relationship forever by poor foresight.
>>51977099People apparently already said they think I'm 'smart' , cool, relaxed and indifferent when it comes to conflict which is good because it means I don't get in trouble.On the other hand I don't think I'm smart at all, if anything I think I'm retarded myself for the most part, I don't feel like I did anything to 'prove' it to either myself or someone else that I'm smart. I'm indifferent about lots of things because I don't want to get involved in anything that has to do with social interaction if I don't like the said event or said people that partake in it. I have no desire in getting to know anything more about someone else or know them on a deeper level if I'm not somehow interested in them in the first place.
>>51977188It's not about going straight into deeper levels, it's about being more tolerant so you can see more aspects of a person before making any kind of judgements.
>>51969417Weren't infp's not judgmental at all and very easygoing?
>>51977211But that's how the entirety of my character is built up like. I'll judge someone from the very first few interactions we have or the very first few times I notice them doing something, if later on they manage to do something or say something that change my mind or opinion of them, then that's that, good for them but if not, my opinion will pretty much stay the same.
Who's more likely to hold long grudges between INFJ and ENFJ?
I'm an ISTJ in a year old relationship with an ENTPHow long do you guys think we will last until a major problem arises? there's already one arising but can you guys guess/speculate about what's the cause of it?
>>51977253My point is that it's a much better mindset to not judge quickly in first place.Changing your mind is nice, but understanding your first impressions aren't much relevant in first place due to how much contextual shit can affect the single event is even better.>>51977335Between them INFJ, but both are pretty quick to forgive.INFJ is less willing to straight express their resenment in your face, but a bit more likely to suddenly "doorslam".ENFJ is more willing to immediately express resentment, but then make sure you know they were just reacting in the moment and you are all forgiven.
>>51977365They are too lazy for you.
>>51974866owo is cute, Sophie is sexy. Both of them are my fetish
>>51977408nah my girl has BPD and ADHD, I'm pretty sure I'm everything to her
man, i really like mbti. i think using it makes it slightly easier to understand other people
>>51977488Perhaps, but don't assume too much based on MBTI.I have similar feelings here, but I'm keeping it just for a generic reference to hazard a guess on somebody's else thinking patterns.
>>51977508Yeah I get that real people are too complicated to be defined by any model, but compared to only using your own POV it's so eye opening.It picks up where the idea of 'putting yourself in other's shoes' stops working, if you get what I mean.
arent you faggots embarassed to partake in something as feminine as personality test bullshit and base your identity around some shitty inconclusively vague result on a bullshit test? i would be extremely embarassed if i was an adult male partaking in thisthis is only one step up from zodiac signs
>>51977689no. now stfu tranny
>>51977709>mentally ill weirdo randomly calls me a trannythis thread is a zoo for misfits of all kinds
>>51977650>but compared to only using your own POV it's so eye opening.Very true, I perfectly agree with that. I went even a step beyond and use this as the very reason why I suggest others to get into MBTI, while always making sure to warn them this shall never be used to box others or justify shortcomings, just seeing perspectives based on cognitive functions.>>51977689No fuck you.
>>51977689Do you really think the OP cares about being feminine?
>>51977689>this is only one step up from zodiac signsastrology is very interesting topic.t. Virgo Sun, Aries Moon
>>51977736Is Leo Sun, Scorpio Moon a good combo?
>>51977753>good combothat depends on planetary aspects and Sun and Moon location in houses. For example if you have poorly aspected Sun in 12th house then your description would change from this one>Leo Sun Scorpio Moon natives are temperamental and very energetic. They have a passion that needs to sometimes be kept in line if they want to achieve the true potential of the combination in which they are born.Strong and always active, these people can get too personal and emotionally involved in any type of situation. It can't be said they know what they like and what they don't like very clearly. It's possible they'll end up ranting and being very annoyed when they won't keep their emotions in check. As a matter of fact, their entire success depends on how they manage to control themselves. Also on how they focus their energy on something constructive. Their magnetic ways will help them achieve success in a leadership position if they would be a little bit more cerebral. They are optimistic and they believe in themselves very much. No one can mess with how proud they are of their achievements. Instinctive, Leo Sun Scorpio Moon individuals will rely more on their heart than on their mind. No matter if women or men, they will have some demons and insecurities that will impede them from achieving what they want. These natives never give up. It doesn't matter what life has put them through, they are fighters with a lot of determination and many ambitions. Not to mention they inspire others to be creative and as efficient as possible. There's no one more delicate, kind and interesting than them. Flirtatious and in love with love itself, they will never deceive their partner. But they will surely attract the opposite sex in a great way.
Why do I instantly feel like laughing my ass off whenever I see someone crying and bawling their eyes out?Usually if it's not something on a serious note, if I don't have some sort of relationship with that said person, and I just see them cry like a bitch for maybe tripping and falling on the ground, or seeing some woman start crying because of some retarded crisis she has which isn't even THAT bad, I just barely able to contain my laughter, my mouth corners keep spazzing out like crazy while I'm trying to stop them from curving into a smile and full blown laugh.Maybe it just has something to do with hour I react to these kind of events? Even when I hit myself and I'm in pain, I'll usually tend to laugh for the most part rather than wail in pain.
>>51977975Laughter is defense mechanism.
>>51977975Me as capricorn moon and ENTP
>>51978028Yeah but I mean, it's just a bit weird when I feel like laughing when I see others cry, I can see how that might somehow also be a defense mechanism but it's still bad, people are very likely to misinterpret it.
>>51978057That could be traced to very poor development of Fe.
>>51977689>arent you faggotsNo.>embarassed to partake in something as feminine as personality test bullshitWhat's wrong with being feminine? Nothing.>base your identity around some shitty inconclusively vague result on a bullshit testImplying that mbti is about identity. It is not.> i would be extremely embarassed if i was an adult male partaking in thisThat's some low self-worth right there in you.>this is only one step up from zodiac signsThis has little common with zodiac signs, excpet that both share idea that people are different.
>>51977238I'm internally always judging others and my own actions/ thought processes.Doesn't mean on the outside i'm not taking it easy.Kinda convinced most infp hate comes from the female version of us, or civil service cucks.
>>51977238No, Fi is very judgemental rational function.
>>51977238INFPs are easygoing precicely because they judge everyone and everything so harshly. If someone fucks up it's OK, it doesn't really matter since they're ugly and their breath smells anyway. What matters is that something so ugly tried, and that's beautiful.
>>51978626well said centaur. well said.
Is there any hope for INFPs? Can they truly ever be happy?
>>51979241as cumdumps for big dicked daddies.
>>51979241don't remember what happiness is like, but I can get into escapism so well I can be content for months on my own.
>>51976881I do this when I'm alone in my Ti, in person I'm less hung up on people not being smart.
Don't die /mbti/
>>51971876Whenever I'm around, I can hug you~! <(^_^)>>>51972345Of course!>>51973865Good luck! ( ^_^)/>>51974866Aww, thanks! <3>>51977449A-and what does that mean...?>>51978195This!>>51978626Beautifully written! ^_^Since the theme of this thread is ISFJs, I have a question (to no one in particular)! \(^_^ )INFJs are said to be thin or frail and not very masculine. Is there an ISFJ body type? :3c
>>51981217It'd be cool if we could make a list of all the different types and their potential body types ;)
INTJ do not deserve love.
>>51982993And care to explain why?
>>51981217> Is there an ISFJ body type? :3cThis is what happens when idiots with no understanding of psychology are allowed to discuss psychology. Have you ever met an avid reader of my books who has turned around and asked "woah, so do these mentally ill people have a certain body type?" No, of course not.
>>51983080They're simply unlovable creatures who wouldnt know what to do with it even if love present itself on silver platter.
>>51983157did an intj hurt you
>>51983157Nah senpai, I'd smash some enfj puss, of course with Empathy and Understanding.
>>51983177I'm the INTJ
>>51981217All the body types, female version.ENFJ: Hourglass figure. Enormous breasts. Full lips. Aware of their sex appeal, but neither ashamed nor proud of it.INFJ: Shorter than average. No boobs. Doe eyes. Designed to instill an urge to protect.ENFP: Slightly overweight. Huge boobs, which they accentuate by wearing tight shirts and not wearing bras because they're sluts.ESFP: Thin as a stick. No real identifying traits otherwise.INTP: Hunched over and utterly unfeminine. Can be mistaken for a male from long distances.INTJ + ENTJ: Ideal for leg lovers, they're thin with extra long legs that they enjoy crossing.ISFP: Anorexic. Tend to have BMI scores in the teens.ISFJ: Thin, but not unhealthily so. Modest breasts. Reserved, but not meek. Carry themselves daintily everywhere they go.ENTP: Roly-poly.ESFJ: Thin, but feminine. Unlike ENFJs, who are proportional, ESFJ have disproportionately large breasts.INFP: Average in every way, minus the tiniest bit of pudge which they ruminate over endlessly.ISTP + ESTP: Taller than average. Otherwise unremarkable.ENTP: Highest rate of obesity among females.ISTJ: Typically devoid of sexually arousing qualities, but on average they are very physically fit and toned. Their bodies are admirable and inspiring, but more on a platonic level than a sexual one.
>>51982993I read that INTJ are so bad at love they'd have a better likelihood just by giving up.anon how do I give up on love??
>>51983216>enfj>aware of their appealIf they were, they wouldn't make everyone fall in love with them.
>>51983245Do INFJs have the same issue? Their functions are very similar
>>51983223>I read that INTJ are so bad at love they'd have a better likelihood just by giving up.this is what happened to me. never had i more romantic attention than when i just "gave up". it made me come across as less guarded i suppose
>>51983380but how intj anon? how?
>>51983274Why are you always shilling your shitty videos here?>>51976881This, it makes group activites a huge pain>>51971733>But that is not really how Te works.Not an argument, you seem way too emotional to be an INTP, also why would you keep claiming lots of fighters are INTPs and use Bruce Lee as proof, someone you admit is probably not INTP, and he's just an actor even if he was.Please go be xSFx somewhere else.
is there such thing as ISTP females? i've seen more NTJ females than ISTP and NTJs are supposedly the rarest type for females. also why the hell could female NTJs not be more common? too "manly"?
>>51983846 women are usually more in touch with their feelings
>>51983846>also why the hell could female NTJs not be more common?the same way that autism is more prevalent in males
>>51983661We were talking about Ti fighters you fucking idiot, not INTPs.Yeah and you know what, I dont even give a shit anymore. Too much this to be INTP, too much that, not enough, I dont give a shit. You do you. In the end INTP or not, you're all a bunch of fucking retards.
>>51983661And by the way saying that's how Te works, when that's not how it works, is not an argument either.
>>51984132And yet you both kept saying INTP, and in any case if Ti is such a great thing for martial arts, as you claim, there should be hundred examples of INTP fighters, which there isn't. But fair enough, irgnoring INTPs for a moment, either name some fighters who are Ti dominant or explain how Ti would be the best triat for martial arts.>Too much this to be INTP, too much that, not enoughNo one's saying this you crybaby, they're telling you Ti is not the ideal way of approaching this particular task, it, like all functions it has it's place.>>51984146But he DID, explain how Te worked to you, he evern gave you an example, you just dismissed it all like the brianlet sensor you are because you didn't want to hear it.
Actually, sensors aren't this bad.
>>51984386Understood, one retard should not lead to us all criticising one another, we should save that for feelers.
>>51984478Feelers aren't bad either
>>51984386>>51984478You heard him, come on in fellow Se chads!*cracks open beer**pisses on the abstract painting in the corner*
>>51984875If INFJs and INTJs are wise because of their Ni unconsciously processing their Inferior Se, shouldn't Dom Se's be the wisest of all?
>>51984386My xSFJ grandma is a fucking angel, hardcore doormat tho, so much we have to tell her to stop overworking herself at such an old age for everyone. Legit can cry if she is unable to help due to that. ISTJ mother tries her best to welcome new ideas even she relies on others explaining them, tends to ask me a lot of "why some people think this way?" questions, legit curious of most intuitives even if struggles understanding how somebody can find abstract stuff cool.ESTP dad is fucking cool, even played fightans regularly, still plays vidya now but more casual. Smartest sensor I know so far.ESFP friend is such an easy-going guy and takes everything so lightly I legit envy him for being so carefree. Also pretty good guy overall, just wants to have fun with others no matter if it's parties or vidya, he will do anything fun. A bit dumb.Yeah sensors are okay.t. INTJ
>>51985028How old is your grandmother?
>>5198509269 years old.Original age
>>51984527Get fucked mate, feelers are the worst people in the world, every control freak is a feeler who can't handle the thought of people getting hurt, and pretty much every namefag and avatarfag in these threads is a feeler and they constantly drain all the actual discussion away."The road to hell is paved with good intentions" should be the line that goes through every man's head when a feeler runs for government.
>>51985015If by wise you mean not thinking at all, then yes we are the wisest.
Most tsundere type?
>>51986444I've never known an INTx that isn't tsundere.
>>51986601INTP here, can confirm, get hugely fussy when I blush too, which is everytime someone talks to me
Is it possible for an introvert to ever have too much alone time?
>>51986893Absolutely, every human requires some level of socialization with others to stay healthy, unless you have a mental illness like Schizoid PD, maybe.
friendly reminderINFJs are deceptive, manipulative, and evil
>>51981217I wish you were around me more, then I'd squeeze you forever, ehehe!~ Me on the left.
>>51987168Who's left? Ours or theirs?Also that looks alike an awful experience lol.
>>51987679Ours, I'd be making them dead flustered!
>>51987812I like to imagine he'd just burst into tears instead of raping you
i..kinda miss mbti r9k dickscored :furrowed: hope you guys have an amazing easter and find lots of chocolate eggs and even meet the easter bunny! i hope this gif brightens up all yer days :-) thinking about yew all :furrowed:
>>51987860>ywn tug someone's shirt until they have a mental break-down and start sobbing uncontrollably
>>51955528what site did you get this from?
>>51988453i have funky discord settings, yer gunna haf to give me an @.. :furrowed:
>>51988498>>51988453>>51988158Fuck off dipshits
>>51988498We miss you lulzy.Also, can I join your harem of beta orbiters to?I'm the one who hated women but you're an exception
>>51983846My sister's an ISTP, you usually don't see them because they're off doing something else or playing videogames alone, there really isn't much in-between. NTJs are usually more likely to pass into your sphere of influence and don't have their head down nearly as much as ISTPs. >>51986976Schizoid PD isn't an illness and secondly if you have a mental illness you're not exactly staying healthy lol.>>51988158>>51988498>>51988520>>51988535OK that's enoughDIPCORD OUT!
>>51988822what is your aversion toward discord all about? Do you find it too much for your autism to deal with? If you got on voice chat you'd probably die of a heart attack>tfw want to VC with centaur :(
>>51988902He wants to hoard all the attention without consequences.
>>51954555ENJT A here to tell you where my balls are and how I'd like them handled.Where: Your faceHandled: with lace gloves
>>51989005What happened anyway? Why did you leave in the first place?
>>51989005Eh, I'm rather certain you don't miss me. I'd post my discord but I already know you'd never add me.Just rejoin the server :)
>>51988535>>51988902>>51989142kill yourself you baiting sociopathic nigger
>>51989142wouldn't that be scratchy?>>51988902That, and having information hidden offsite and offsite drama is pretty awful. Like, how on earth is anybody outside of your little clique supposed to know what on earth you're talking about? Like, what on earth is the contect behind a post like this? >>51989272 Is it serious, is it an inside joke? It's all too cliquey and gross. But yes social networking and VC makes me severely anxious and I don't want to feel like I'm missing out by not doing it, and I know there are other anons that feel the same way. If you love discord so much you should stay on discord and leave this to be its own space.
>>51989392it's serious, the guy's trying to bait someone back into the server who he flamed off of it just so he can flame them more and call them an attention whore. pathetic faggot
>>51983661not my video and I've literally posted one before
Do any other entps feel like there is no 'real' them? I mean, when you take off the mask you use around your family or friends, there's just another mask underneath? And maybe underneath that one is another mask? Or maybe even that last mask is superglued on?
>ESTP>95% percentile IQ>actually really humble irl boss gets mad about how rarely I acknowledge that I did well on a job>literally just bored with lifeHow do I fix?
>>51989594Should have put 95th. That shows my intelligence real well, huh?
>>51989498The point was that there's no way of knowing that unless you were there personally.>>51989565I used to think like that desu, being a NEET for 2 years really solved that issue. Not having a mask to put on really helped me to become "myself". Also I encorparated being a person that wears a lot of maskes into my identity, the thing that binds all these characters I play is that they are all "me", even if I'm not actually any of these characters, I'm the thread that binds them together.>>51989605to be fair 95th percentile is still within the normal range.
>>51989696It's the second z-score on a normal curve. "Normal" is really going to be within the first z-scores which would account for approximately 68% of participants.
>>51989718I guess it depends on your definition of normal.. A good 10% of people are less normal than anon when it comes to IQ. That's not a position I'd call unusual myself, being that he's still within the 95% of people.
>>5199007295th percentile means that only five percent of people have a score above them. Not that they fit in with 95% of people. I'm not trying to be rude or condescending, I mean this genuinely. Have you taken a statistics course? It could help you understand what tests and experiments are trying to say much more easily. 95th percentile is very rare no matter the subject matter.
>>51990108A statistics course isn't even required, even with a basic high school education a person should be able to know what a 95th percentile is.
>>51989565it's that we become different modes of ourselves with different people, especially our parents. What's depressing is that other people really are only interested in that single mode. You're a monkey to them, an amusement, a genre of experience. They really are only interested in that one thing about you and it starts to suffocate as you realize you really are nothing more to them even if they are more to you.
>>51990148I'm trying my hardest to be polite, anon.
>>51990108>>51990148>>51990171Anon, I think you might want to delete this post and try to actually read mine instead of scoring points. I'm well aware what a percentile is as demonstrated in my post, the middle 95% is between the 2nd percentile and the 98th. That is the normal range.Do you think I would have mentioned 10% being more unusual than him if I thought that 95th percentile means 95% of people?
>>51990200My point is that the 95th is quite rare. In a room of 10 people only half of the time should someone have a higher score than me. It takes twenty for you to be able to confidently say that there would be one with a higher score than me.
>>51987071why do I always see people say shit like this?
>>51990272Because INFJs are actually awful people. Think of all of those annoying politicians that don't seem to have everyone's best interest in mind. They just want to push their policy and their ideas. They're INFJs. Think of that obnoxious girl at your school that was always arguing about dress code, how the football team gets too much money, and how boys rape her all the time. INFJ. That girl that's shoving flyers down peoples' throats to go to a smash poetry event then calling everyone who doesn't promise to go a "misogynistic xenophobic bigot." They're an INFJ.
>>51990249To add 95th percentile means 2.5% on either side, not 5%. So saying that "A good 10% of people are less normal than anon when it comes to IQ. That's not a position I'd call unusual myself" is outright wrong, regardless of whether or not it's an intentional bias to defend your argument. If it's easier look at it like this, 95% of people have lower scores than me.
>>51990392I did make a bit of a mistake here. You're looking at it as 95th percentile means 95% of results from the median of the normal curve. That's not the correct metric. 95% percentile includes all scores at and below the score in question, not that they're at the magical z-score of two. I feel a bit stupid because I've been preaching something that's correct but I've been using all the wrong means to do so.
>>51990329>annoying politicians that don't seem to have everyone's best interest in mind. They just want to push their policy and their ideas.this is bullshit, not INFJ at all.
>>51988822>Schizoid PD isn't an illnessHow is it not?>if you have a mental illness you're not exactly staying healthy lol.Well, yeah, my point was that people with SPD might not need socialization. They'd still be unhealthy irregardless, you're right, but they might not feel worse because of not having socialization.
>>51990436I see you're either an INFJ or you haven't ever met one.
>>51990452No, your examples are just legitimately shit. Too many girls and politicians are like that for it to be an "INFJ" characteristic.
>>51990464Yeah, you're an INFJ. Go figure.
>>51990469I'm pretty sure you just need that to be true for some strange reason. What happened to you?
>>51990517fuck off with your cuck feelings you failed effeminate man.
>>51990540You're the one getting riled up about a magic horoscope type on four chan dot org, sure you aren't the effeminate girly man with hurt fee-fees?
>>51988535lol beta kys ya self and do it slow
>>51990517Classic INFJ>>51990556Go ahead and back out and pretend that you don't care about this even though you're the one who started it you text book INFJ, you.
>>51990583What about that post makes it "classic INFJ"? Makes no fucking sense. This is why I think you're just falling for confirmation bias.
>>51990556>implying i'm the one whos upset lol infjs are such fairies
>>51990632Because all that matters is that I'm not hurting anyone's feelings, not whether or not you're right.
>>51990329>>51990452>>51990469still salty, huh brainlet?>>51990517i blew him the fuck out on this point in the past>>51990272INFJs often harbor awful beliefs and ideas and make terrible actions and weird and wild assertions because of their function stack. Ni Fe likes to absorb information about people and inferior Se helps them gather wrong information about people. 3rd slot Ti takes this information that's often incorrect and flat out wrong (because Ni Fe and inferior Se is extremely subjective and basically only gathers emotions) and attempts to rationalize this incorrect information and then use it badly or form really weird and incorrect opinions on things. they are basically just INTJs, but they don't absorb information they only absorb emotions.next comes the role of Fi critic in the 6th slot. this makes them very critical of personal values and morals of themselves and others. since they are doormats with 2nd slot Fe, they often see things they don't like in other people through their Fi critic and start making a list about every wrongdoing that person ever did or said around them. and because of their high Fe they will never announce their grievances with people, they will let them fester. this will culminate in an argument or fight where the INFJ lists every wrongdoing they've ever commited and then take emotional information they've gathered about you and use it against you. i.e. i'm glad you were molested as a kid because you're a piece of shit, or your father didn't beat you hard enough, or you're a lowlife who will end up drug addicted on the street. whatever your weakness is they will try to hurt you to pressure you into behaving how they want you to behave.that emotional information essentially gets used as a weapon against you. this happens frequently with INFJs i've known and other INFJs here have said they do such things. it seems to be a behavior of the type and the nature of their function stack.just a pattern of INFJs it seems.
>>51990638It's more like, I realize nothing I say is going to change your mind about it so I wanted to hear the story of how you got buttblasted by someone who is "INFJ".
>>51990272i ran out of room to finish the post but TL;DR INFJs are bad and thinking and try to change your behavior for it's own sake by using emotional weaknesses or vulnerabilities they gather about people and throwing in their face. they really want to manipulate and change who people are because they think they know best and you NEED to change and be better. and usually they don't know best and end up just wanting to change who you are because they just want to or think they can. highly manipulative.
>>51990761Most people are pretty shit, some change could do them good. Ever considered that they might just be right?
>>51990443Personality disorders aren't mental illnesses in the same way something like schizophrenia or dementia are. They're closer to patterns of behaviour that are detrimental to a person's wellbeing or the wellbeing of others. They're all lumped with mental illnesses into the nebulous term "mental disorder" but that's generally considered unhelpful. Having SPD might lead someone to avoid socialization, but that's part of why it's considered a disorder in the first place since it often leads to a decline of social ability and a lack of overall success. While an extreme introvert can be happy on their own all the time, it's generally considered detrimental to society as a whole and they are also likely missing out on oppertunities to be more fullfilled through having kids ect.>>51990249My point was that isn't particularly impressive, so being humble about it isn't much of an acheivement.>>51990435It's OK anon you only have 95th percentile IQ, we don't expect much from you
>>51990823who are they to change someone as a person? especially if they use underhanded tactics and social pressure as a tool and a stand-in for a real argument. especially considering what they would like to change about people is usually just subjective feelings, or things that made them uncomfortable like sense of humor or something mundane like that.no i don't think they are right because there is never a cohesive argument about what they want to be changed about people. it's all just feelings. so it leads me to believe they just want people to change for the fuck of it or for their own convenience.
>>51990881>m-muh argumentGet outta here labcoat, if who you are is so weak that you can be manipulated into something else so easily then you obviously deserve it, and probably ultimately benefit from it. People trying to change you isn't evil by default, quit eating up typical media tropes as truth.
>>51990992>typical media tropes as truth.???idk i guess i like to take the more reasonable position of not trying to change who people inherently are because i don't like a specific thing about them. i have absolutely no right to attempt to do that and i don't know why you think you or anybody else has the right to. i could see if the person was a massive asshole to everyone he met and a friend was like "hey man cool it down". but attempting to change somebodies core values and ideas or their humor or their morality just because you're upset seems fucking retarded to me. especially if you aren't going to provide an argument as to why it should be changed or where your ideas are wrong.
>>51991068>i have absolutely no right toStopped reading there. Nice spook, fag. Go back to fapping over desTINY debates.
>>51991138you've provided great arguments. there's plenty of things you can point out in my post to actually get me on. but all you've got is>you deserve it>you're dumb>you fap over mental and literal midget debatesstunning
>>51991164if you paid close attention, I did address the foundation of your argument, which is a moral one - "i have no right to do x". I fundamentally disagree with the idea of people having magic "rights" that you just have to respect, because of some trivial reason.
>>51991234this post hurt my feelings and it bothers me that you don't care about what i care about. you should change your mind and accept my magic rights because my feelings are hurt.have you considered that i'm actually right and you could benefit from changing because i'm upset?
>>51989049h-h-hotGo away psycho!
>>51991300No, I actually don't care, although I feel a little bad for you if you're telling the truth.
>>51991605do you think it's okay for jews to undermine western values?
>>51991693When most people ask this question, what they really mean to ask is if it's OK for westerners to undermine jewish values
>>51991764do you think it's fine for pick-up-artists to use social manipulation to have sex with women?
>>51991783Sure, if women agrees to sex.
>>51991783all communication is social manipulation, you'll have to be more specific.
had a dream i was supposed to be signing some important documents but instead i was handed a stack of turbiefaggots posts screenshotted and printed on A4. i fucking screamed.
>>51991783You asking me if I think is not fair or If I am jealous?
>>51991842>>51991991do you think that a girl who's in an abusive relationship and refuses to leave deserves the abuse? do you think her boyfriend is a good per bad person?
>>51992187Yes and bad, obviously
>>51992217do you think it's wrong for someone to tell you that you can't say certain words when you're around them? if no, why not?
>>51988158You were never kicked out or anything as far as I know, so grab >>51968404 link whenever you want
>>51992281of course it's not wrong lol. Who would say it was?
>>51955795put yourself in other people's shoes, imagine how they feel in a given situation. imagine how /you/ would feel if you were in their situation. don't get caught up trying to figure out why some folks don't fit in with your worldviews, and accept that people are just wildly different from each other, and that most things people these days get caught up with when dealing with people are super small and are completely irrelevant to who they are as a personalitymost importantly, go outside. the world looks way worse and is much harder to connect with when you don't experience it first hand, take it from an experienced enfj people person who used to sit around here and be sad before deciding it sucked
who want eat my big INTP cock? choke on it maybe? ;)
>>51992318what if they you that you couldn't say the words "you", or "car", or "food" when around them? would you comply if it was arbitrarily chosen words? if yes, why? and do you not see a problem with that scenario?also are you >>51990992
>>51992187>deservesNo. It's not about who deserves what. If she is an adult - her decision not to leave is HER responsibility.
>>51992499ENFJs are cute are you a cute ENFJ girl
I really don't feel like looking through the last 24 hours of shitposting in this thread.
>>51992630no I'm a dude, also a dom. I bet I wouldn't be half bad lookin' if I worked out though
>>51983216>>51983846I once had an ISTP girl as a coworker. I guess she was about average or above average female height, but she wasn't anywhere near my height. She was a dyke and loves to workout and play sports. We hardly talked, but I admired the way she sparks whenever she's around the people she likes to be around. It reminds me of how I act whenever I'm around people I have a lot in common.
>>51984875Holy fuck, I wasn't expecting to laugh from reading that, but it reminded me of an old image I haven't thought of in a long time.
i wanna be dom'd by an entj girl plz that's all i want in life
what female type would care the least about physical aesthetics in a sexual partner/long term relationship? i know ESTPs are all about aesthetics. who's the least like that?
>>51992888>would care the least about physical aesthetics in a sexual partner/long term relationship?all care but if going purely by functions then any type with inferior or absent SeINTJINFJISFJESFJENTPENFPINFPESTJISTJ
>>51992588lol no I'm not him.Also I'd avoid using those words if that was something somebody genuinely wanted from me.
>>51972537it's only the big elephant if you make it the big elephant, I still am able to find plenty of good discussions around here, even /about/ politics. it's just that it's often hard to sort through all the shitposting to find it.
>>51993024but wading through all the shit is what makes the gold taste oh so much sweeter
>tfw INTJ>smug piece of shit>think i'm better than everyone else>when someone offends me slightly i want to see them dead
>>51993229Truly INTJ in its most natural state.
>>51993229love u friend
>>51991693sure, why not? what is your actual point in this post?
>tfw INTJ>try to debate someone about something>they constantly talk over me, showing no sign of respect>all they do is repeat what the media says>tfw I am still rightFuck you ESFJ and ESTJ "friends"
>>51993229I'm sorry anon, but INTJs are usually too busy being smug to be offended by the lower beings. You're probably just a mistyped feeeeler
Man debate culture has ruined discourse. There's too much pressure to make congruent points it's killing creativity, and people are too obsessed with trying to catch each other out on logical fallacies. It's making discussion stressful when it's supposed to be nice and comfortable.>>51992908This made me want to see a list of types that would want to be my GF from least to most.
>>51993322I've taken the test around 10 times usually with months in between, when in different moods etc. just to be sure. Don't forget people have unique personalities within the types.
>>51993322sounds like the way an INFJ gets asshurt over every little thing tbqh
>>51957110he's an ENFJ, like Breivik, Hitler, Stalin, Charles Mansont. socionics LII
>>51993448>everyone that's bad is an ENFJsociotards everyone.
>>51961638Bullshit. Half of /pol/ is just ExFPs with ISTJs, because it's only memes, random ramblings, and copypastas, almost no serious discussions. INxJs emostly lurk /g/ and /sci/.
>>51993463but kaworu is enfj and kaworu is gae
>>51993390well, you do you anon. Just remember that 1) tests are not everything 2) this should prompt you to go back and reexamine your type, just to be certain.
>>51993463>5 people>everyoneit's interesting that he likes pewdiepie, since he's an ENFJ toofor people who want to learn more about ENFJhttp://www.wikisocion.net/en/index.php?title=EIE_Profile_by_Gulenko
>>51960926Either ENTP or ESFJ.
>>51993387I agree. I don't wanna debate them any longer. I just wanna have a nice friendly chat where the other part will try his best to put himself into my shoes and not attack me.
>>51993522>Pewdiepie is an ENFJYou've got to be having a laugh. Also name 5 universally accepted villains that aren't ENFJ.>>51993544Well talk about something they don't have preprogrammed responses for then.
>>51993664>ENFJ >villainThe only one who could potentially be ENFJ villain is Joseph Seed from Far Cry 5 but even then he's more of a INFJ
>>51993925see the post I'm complaining about lol >>51993448
>>51993957Not that anon but Stalin is stereotypical ENTJ and Manson ENFP
>infp dating an estp>similar humour>not afraid to talk about his feelings>doesn't shy away from 'deep' topics when i get into them>not a brainlet>sexlife is a dream>loves kink>said he's comfortable with me having other sexual partners as long as i don't let them get attached>good at cooking and taking care of my physical sideapparently this is the ideal pairing for me as our functions are dualistic but everyone here tells me to stay the fuck away from sensorseverything seems to click when we're together but i can't shake the feelings of doubt about this n/s disparity, it's like there's something missingw-what do?
>>51954555i fucking hate society.t.istp
>>51993992Honestly I haven't really thought about or know much about either of them, What do you think Brenton is though?>>51994000>INFP dat...fuck off and go away.
>>51994130>What do you think Brenton is though?Massive troll aka ENTP.
>>51993925The fun part about ENFJs is that either they are super extremely good mary sue airhead angels who can't do no bad or so fucking evil it's unbelievable how much they enjoy destroying others both psychologically and physically.Fe/Ni in itself has no morality, but it does make you extremely deep into the one you chose.
>>51994205They can manipulate for its sake but more commonly they can create any excuse for their behavior, hence Monika from DDLC
>>51994262Eh I mean, Monika isn't really a good example of bad ENFJ.I would call her selfish but it makes perfect sense when there's literally nobody to care about, and she actually says she did care about others before the epiphany - further proven by other girls calling her normally a very nice and supportive person and when she suddenly isn't caring about others it becomes weird.
>>51994205ENFJs aren't airheads. Why do people associate Extroverted Feeling with being a bimbo?
Why are Slavs so based?
>>51994466>ENFJ aren't airheadsIt's a stereotype, don't take it literally.That's as good as saying INTJs are strategic masterminds.>Why do people associate Extroverted Feeling with being a bimbo?Cause it's quite literally the "popular guy" function. They like to please others and shit, in a way that can hide their own "personality" and opinions all for the sake of being likeable in order to please others.
>>51994490Does owo anon seem like a bimbo to you
>>51994527idk about their type when they don't show any kind of personality aside from getting high from Anons hating him.
>>51994564This. Sophie is a bimbo, though.
>>51994628Can I be a bimbo too?!I want to feel included