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PLAY CLOCK AT FIVE
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>>80639055

That playcall.
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More like my cock length at 5
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it was still the right idea
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AND THE BALL IS.......CAUGHT
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>>80639113

Retarded
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literally refball, but hey, don't let the asterisks get in the way of your robbed titles
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>>80639189
>Refs made Russel Wilson throw the ball at the 2 yard line.
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>>80639189
>A by-the-book interception was refball
A white person wouldn't be this stupid
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>>80639055

>2nd and goal
>don't rush
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>>80639113
i heard seattle is looking for a head coach maybe u could look into it
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>>80639055
i still like this
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>>80639055

Greatest moment in the history of sports. Thanks for the reminder OP
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>>80640025
naw, bro
Bra7i1 was the greatest in terms of amusement.
this was probably the most shocking.
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>>80639055
>this obsession
It was 3 years ago, just let it go. The Failcons had the bigger collapse anyway and was more recent.
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>>80639173
>>80639660
>>80639760
>Running the ball would have been a guaranteed touchdown
Just accept it was one of the greatest defensive plays of all time.
Oh wait, that would require you to give credit to the Patriots and you're too SEETHING to do that, even though it's been 3 years lmao
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>>80640906
>just let it go
No
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>>80639660
>Marshawn Lynch stuffed all season in those situations
>get stuffed and time runs out
>you would be seething at bad play call
Britbro got it right
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>run ball with marshawn
>get stuffed
>IT WUH DUH BAD PLAYCALL

>run ball again with marshawn later in season
>get stuffed
>WUT A BAD PLAYCALL Y RUN DUH BALL ON DUH 1 ITS SO OBBIOUS

>pass on the 1 yard line so marshawn doesn't get stuffed again
>throw INT
>Y DONT U RUN DUH BALL ON DUH 1 U GOT NUMBER 24 MARSHAWN LYNCH HE IS BEAST MODE JUST GIVE HIM DUH BALL AND UR GOOD 2 GO WUT A BAD PLAY CALL
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>>80641262
>I CANT BELIEVE THE PLAYCALL
>WITH MARSHAWWWN LYNCH IN THE BACKFIELD
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>>80641127
That was pretty classic which led to me actually wanting the Pats to beat the failcons last year. But the best part about that Owl was pic related
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>>80640906
>Seacucks "fans" have an easier time letting go of their wife to be with her bull than they do letting go of losing to the Pats
Top kek
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>>80641881
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>>80641262
>>80641215
>>80641718
It’s easy for us to say it now, but in the context of this game the Patriots hadn’t been able to stop Lynch that whole drive. It was a miracle Ayers was even able to stop him inches short of the goal line.
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Not a Nigger Crash specialist, but would running the ball not have been the better call here?
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>>80640124

>That shocked at only 0-3

LMAO if only they knew
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>>80641960
>the whole drive
He ran once on the drive it what was a different situation and it was High tower that caught him. His other big gain was on a screen pass. I'm pretty sure earlier in the game Pats did stuff him on third and short.
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>>80643355
I guess they would actually win.
I don't get why would you risk with that throw
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>>80641960
What are you talking about? They ran the ball once that drive
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>>80643355
>>80643389
>risk
Firstly it's the least risky play in that situation, it's the only time there was an interception at the one yard line in the whole season. More were fumbled at the one. Secondly if you don't understand football, running the ball keeps the clock running while passing and missing stops the clock. There was 20 seconds left in the game so throwing it means they either score or miss and stop the clock for another play. Of course if somebody makes a miracle athletic play there's nothing you can do, it's amazing balance and strength to catch that ball, he hit the other guy so hard it causes a full grown man to go about three feet flying in the air, and he still caught the ball in the same motion as he was bouncing off of him. Amazing play.
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>>80639173
This play had like 90% success rate on that season
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>>80643481
Exactly. Everyone says it was a stupid call, yet forget ints at the one yard line basically never happen, especially a relatively safe pass like that pick play. There's probably a higher chance lynch fumbles in that situation. It was purely an amazing play by butler, not just to stop the catch but to intercept the ball.
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Why can't people accept that Malcolm Butler made a really good play?
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SEAKEKS FOREVER BTFO
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>>80641956
>can't shitpost anything relevant against the pats so he has to get a photo from 10 years ago
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>>80639055
How the fuck is this not pass interference? The defender just crashes into him
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>>80647661
He intercepted it.
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LMFAO
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>>80639055
>not posting the aftermath
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>>80639189
I live in Seattle and have heard all the excuses, but this one is very uncommon.

Care to explain how it's ref ball?
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>>80648071
>brady's reaction
Why did he just stay on the knee like that, it's like he knew they were going to be pissed or he was totally thinking about something else
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>>80648149
Because he's a professional.
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>>80648149
That close to the goal line in a game that close they could have tried to force a fumble or something, that's why vareen was lined up like that and some of the O-line dove forward. Its very rare that the d-line really tries that on a kneel but with the game that close after a INT, in the superbowl of course they were going to try.
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>>80648403
This, actually. Butler fucked up by not taking a knee in the end zone.

You can see the Patriots vets immediately taking a knee in the endzone after endzone INTs since.
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>>80639055
Worst day of my life
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>>80639055
Clear pass interference, NFL sucking Brady's cock again
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>>80648576
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>>80648606
Bum still sore?
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>>80648606
In what world is that pass interference?
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>>80648770
South Butthurtia
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>>80648075
Ref ball?
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I wrote my thesis in football school on this play. You can absolutely make an argument for that play. There's also an argument to be made that the reason the Patriots were able to capitalize there was BECAUSE the play made sense, so they had an idea of what the Seahawks were going to do and could counter it effectively.
The first thing to remember is that the score was 28-24 New England. This is important because it means a field goal is completely off the table. The possibility of a field goal play does not exist. Seattle must score. Seattle begins their drive on their own 20, 2:02 on the clock and all three of their time outs. Also important to remember that in the first thirteen minutes of the fourth quarter, New England has scored 14 points and Seattle none. All the momentum is with New England, the crowd, which started the game VERY pro-Seahawks is now cheering for the Patriots.
>Wilson throws a wheel route to Lynch, who makes a beautiful catch over Jamie Collins. About a thirty yard gain. First down Seattle, at midfield, 1:59 on the clock, two minute warning.
>Seattle pass broken up, great coverage by Malcolm Butler, who no one has ever heard of.
1:50 on the clock
>2nd and 10, Wilson has to burn a time out as Seattle can't get the snap off before the play clock winds down. 2 timeouts left, 1:50 on the clock.
>Seahawks bring in Chris Mathews, the big receiver that killed New England in the first half before they put Brandon Browner on him. 4 catches for 109 yards and a TD so far.
>Wilson attempts to go deep, to the end zone for Mathews, Browner knocks the ball away. 3rd and 10, 1:41 on the clock.
>Wilson to Locket for 11 yards, first down, clock keeps running.
>Seahawks go no huddle but there is visible confusion and it still takes them 20 seconds from the end of the last play to get the ball snapped.
>Wilson to Kearse for the Kearse Catch. Crazy ass play that looked like was going to doom the Patriots. Again. 1st and ten, ball on the 5, 1:06 on the clock.
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>>80645017
he a one play wonder just like Mike Jones
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>>80648250
>CIS white male
>conservative
>best pals w/ the president of the USA
>handsome
>tall
>athletic
>married a model
>millionaire

talk about life on easy mode
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>>80650031
Hes a solid DB
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>>80650196
>best pals

Why did he skip the White House visit with that racist blowhard?
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>>80648437
meh, better to not risk leaving it up to the refs to call it a safety
it's understandable if youre deep in the endzone but they could argue he stepped out and back in again with the ball
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>>80650305
I believe his mother was in the hospital at the time. Really i think the dude catches so much shit that if his black teammates weren't going and he did it would just make him look like shit.
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>>80650976
Fake news. Plenty of black players were there.

Brady was using Trump for free Golf Trips and opportunities to creampie Ivanka.
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>>80650305
>why did he skip
because he felt like it you emasculated soyboy
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>>80651063
>hey ma, I really got those libs today!
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why is /sp/ so obsessed with the xehawks?

are their teams that shitty
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>>80643397
>>80643385
>>80641960
>>80641262
>>80641718

It doesn't matter how the rest of the game went football is about maximizing your potential for opportunity and minimizing potential for disaster. They were on the goal line with a timeout why would you pass when you don't have to? They could have ran the ball gotten stuffed took a timeout and had 20 seconds for 2 pass plays. You guys are arguing as if one Marshawn run would have ended the game if he didn't get in.
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>>80649942
Fuck that Kearse catch, as it was happening I just knew in the pit of my stomach that this was Tyree all over again.
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>>80650305
mom had cancer
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>>80649942

Sorry, had to go eat dinner. Now back to my thesis.

Kearse made this catch over Malcolm Butler.
>Seattle can't get down field fast enough after the Kearse catch. Burn ANOTHER time out (THIS IS WHERE SEATTLE LOST THE SUPERBOWL)
1st and 10, ball on the 5, 1:06 on the clock, 1 time out
>Give is to Lynch, looks like he's going in to the end zone until Hightower grabs his leg.
2nd and goal, ball on the 1, 57 seconds remaining.
Here is where it all fell apart.
Seattle meanders back to the line as the clock continues to run, and the commentator even mentions that New England should think about taking a time out. But this is what makes Bill Belichick the greatest coach of all time. Any mortal man would have taken the time out, thinking that Seattle has a 100% chance to score given that they have Lynch. Best you can hope for if you're the Patriots is that they do it quick then you get the ball back with as much time as possible on the clock and two time outs.
But not Bill Belichick.
He says "fuck you, I have the lead, the clock is against YOU, you have to beat ME with more pressure that's ever been on you in your coaching career. Your players aren't as good as mine, you got fucking lucky, take your best shot."
Carroll sees the clock is running. If you're Seattle you have three plays left in the game, but only about 25 seconds and you have only one time out. Your team has shown you during this last drive that they can be lazy and undisciplined about getting to the line. You've burned TWO of your timeouts during this drive to avoid taking delay of game penalties. IF you run on this play, and Lynch does not get in you will be forced to use your last time out. (Lynch was 1/5 during the season on converting from the 1 yard line, he had several plays in this game that were for negative or zero yards)
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>>80651428

If you throw a pass play, from the 1, which at this point in the 2015 season had been done 100 times and not one had lead to an interception, there are three possible outcomes.
1. Lockett catches pass, touchdown, you pretty much win the Superbowl. (50% chance)
2. Pass is incomplete, either he can't make the catch or you throw it out of the back of the end zone, clock stops. On third down you now have the option to either pass or run because you still have a time out. On fourth down you will also have the option to pass OR run. (50% chance)
3. New England predicts our play perfectly, Brandon Browner stops Baldwin from jamming Malcom Butler, undrafted rookie corner who was working at Popeyes at the start of the season makes a perfect play on the ball and is able to knock a larger man away to grab it himself. (0% chance)
Brandon Browner, who played for the Seahawks the previous year knew this was a play Seattle loved to run in these situations. Belichick prepared for this particular play in the weeks leading up to the Superbowl. His guys ran against this very play over and over again. Not once in practice had Butler intercepted the ball.
For Carroll it makes sense to throw, it seems incredibly safe, you'll save a time out, it gives you more options on subsequent downs in case you need them. Plus there's the added bonus of making Wilson, who is Carroll's boy, look like the hero of Seattle while the contentious Marshawn Lynch is downplayed.
To Russel Wilson, before the ball was even in his hand he knew who he was going to throw to, he never looked anywhere else.
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>>80639055

>2nd and Goal
>20 seconds and 1 timeout left
>FUCK IT LETS PASS IT INTO TRAFFIC LOL

Did Caroll forget that running plays are still a thing?
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>>80651494

The end result was pure Malcolm Butler. He executed the play perfectly. It's like something out of a fucking anime how Butler was all charged up on emotion. He was the one who had given up the Kearse Catch, he had let his team down. He was determined to make up for it, to not lose this game and he went at the ball as hard as a human can go. Lockett did not. He thought the game was in the bag, he got lazy for half a second and he lost the Superbowl. That's just that little extra Belichick is able to get from his guys that makes him the best coach of all time.
Calling that play when he did made logical sense. That one play was not the reason Carroll lost the Superbowl. He lost it over the course of the year at practices, in game situations, in the locker room by not instilling his incredibly talented team with the discipline that makes great coaches great. They wasted two time outs because they couldn't get a play off in forty seconds. Then in the most important moment of the game, at least one player was distracted, probably already celebrating the inevitable victory despite being behind in the score and the clock running against you. Immediately following this crazy series of events the Seattle defense piled up multiple penalties for again, being undisciplined and overly emotional.
There have been stories all over these past couple years about the Seahawks breaking up, about Wilson and Sherman splitting the locker room, about Carroll being powerless to stop any of it. You would never hear something like this from a Patriots locker room. Because they would remove a contentious element. Carroll simply doesn't know how to lead a group of grown men. He did well with eighteen year old kids in the NCAA but this is the same issue he had in New England where the players just walk all over him. But he's fantastic at putting a team together, and the Seattle front office is pretty great too. So he's assembled a great team but he can't reign them in.
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>>80639113
It really was, they pinched the middle ready for Lynch. Butler just made an amazing play.
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>>80648149

That's him saying "Do what you must. I've already won."
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>>80651550
You really expect anyone to read that?
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>>80651604
It was a good read
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>>80651550
So the blame for the result of this play lies in the following in order of most blame to least blame:

1. Pete Carroll for not getting his team disciplined enough to beat the most well coached team in NFL history.
2. Malcolm Butler for making a perfect play
3. Tyler Lockett for being too lazy to win the Superbowl
4. Belichick for not only calling the play but getting his team to play for all sixty minutes even when things look hopeless.
5.Brandon Browner, for BTFO his previous team. I like to think of Browner like Batman in the Justice League story where it turns out he has contingency plans in case the League ever went rogue and he had to kill them.
6. Russel Wilson for telegraphing an obvious play and not just throwing it into the back of the end zone.
7. Hightower for stopping the first Lynch run
8. Marshawn Lynch for having shitty numbers from the one yard line to the point where his coach didn't believe in him
9. Pete Carroll for calling a pass.

Thanks for reading all of that and hopefully we can move past this overly simplistic "durr he called da wrong play" and start giving the Patriots the credit they deserve.
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He called the wrong play
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>>80651604
He makes the most valid point I've heard on the subject
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>>80648437
he got the INT outside the end zone, it would have been a safety if he took a knee in the endzone and they'd have to punt to Seatlle where a FG could have won it
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>>80649942
Football School, for which you write papers, is a thing?
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daily reminder Wilson is 2-1 against Brady
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>>80651797
It shouldn't take 5 paragraphs to say passing the ball on the 2 on second down with a timeout left is a bad call.
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>>80639055
>browner's block and pointing to Butler where he's supposed to go
Absolute kino
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>>80651604

"hurr durr, i don't want to read an in depth perspective on what happened to lead to the play, im a smarty football man! Beast mode woulda won da game/"
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>>80651833

Uh yes. Sorry you couldn't get in poorfag.
I graduated last year with a major in Special Teams and I've got job offers on the table for all the top clubs at 500k a year.
Laughing at your life.
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>>80651994
I never said running the ball would have won the game. You are too retarded to argue with.
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>>80648071

The best part of this webm will always be Seattle's #51 punching Gronk in the helmet, then literally TURNING AROUND AND RUNNING IN TO THE ARMS OF THE REFEREE BEGGING HIM TO SAVE HIS LIFE
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>>80651604
>>80651797
>>80651967
It was a good read and certainly more insightful than all the memes. Pete played 5D chess against the best chess player in football and he lost.
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>>80641262
>have three shots to get a TD
>first thing to do is pass
HURR DURR
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>>80639055
Im not a fan of either team and have seen this play at least 20 times.
How many times has Pete watched it?
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>>80648071
All the signs of Gronk being a total bitch have always been there I just missed it until that hit in the Buffalo game. How can anyone respect this guy any more?
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>>80652327
>how many times has Pete watched it?

Every time he lays his head down at night
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>>80651604
fuck you, it's a good analysis and actual CONTENT instead of
>HOW DO YOU RATE THIS BALD MAN IN A SUIT STARING WISTFULLY
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It's a shame Seattle blew it and everyone forgets the impossible catch Kearse made just before. That catch deserves to be remembered like Edelman and Tyree's
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>>80653370
i agree, but also think about that julio catch just a few plays before edeljew did his GOAT catch
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>>80639055
scripted af
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>Run it in at the goal line
>Win Super Bowl
Wow, that wasn't too hard.
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> xehawks were averaging 5.6 yards a carry
> lynch himself was beasting all game with 4.24
> pass the ball to give glory to their shit meme qb
this was the play that broke the seattle window, they never recovered and pete lost the locker room forever. if i was allen, i would've fired both of them on the spot at the stadium
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>>80651604
some people are capable of reading, buddyboy
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>>80651869

Too bad he lost the one that matters
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>>80651869
And Gary Anderson didn't miss a single kick all season.
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>>80639055
Billy B literally knew the play since he's filmed all the signal calls in the league.
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>>80639055
It was crazy because the feeling was that it was all over for the Patriots. I can kind of see why he may have thought he'd have another chance since this is second down, but still, I thought he was going to run it. It was the obvious play to call.
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I like how esspee forgets that they ran the ball and lynch got 0 yardage.
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>>80658158
>lynch gets 0 yards on one(1) play
>"oh hes fucking useless now lets just pass it"
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>>80658254
>wow that play did nothing
>lets do it again!!!!
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>>80658332
Yes. You'd be surprised how often that works.

There are also a variety of running plays, not just one.
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>>80652221
>have three shots to get a TD
>first thing you do is run and drain the clock down to zero
Pretty good insight, you'd make a great ESPN writer
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>>80658254
He was shit in those situations all year. I don't understand why anybody but the most bitter retards can't understand more chances to score > less chances to score
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I think the real question here is what team the Pats bandwagoners will change over to when Belichick and Brady retire.
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>>80660829
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>PASS IS...INTERCEPTED AT THE GOAL LINE BY MALCOM BUTLER. UN-REAL

Still gives me goosebumps every time. All Michaels is a fucking legend
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https://youtu.be/XVT07Avfr0Y

Enjoy lads
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>>80641209
Sherman saw it coming before it happened. Look at the crowd reaction compared to his.
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>>80643355
Pats stuffed the box, Lynch would've gained maybe a yard, but they don't call him beast mode for nothing. There's a chance he could've broke one
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Bump
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>>80663956
There was a higher percentage he gets stuffed than Wilson gets picked off. It happened all season
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>Hahahahahahahaha How The Fuck Is Super Bowl XLIX Real Hahahaha Nigga Just Run The Ball From The One Yard Line Like Nigga Win The Game Haha
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>>80661503
>Still gives me goosebumps every time
>every time

don't tell me you rewatch super bowls. how pathetic can you get that you have to reassure yourself by watching games you already know you win?
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>>80666575
This webm is posted every week. I love watching it every thread its made in
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>>80661556
Jimmy G seems to really attached to Brady's shoulder from behind
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>>80666746

I'm mad.

This catch isn't even the worst part of this play. It's the 3 holding penalties the refs decided not to call and the fact they wouldn't blow the whistle despite the fact that Eli was wrapped up for about 5 seconds, but the guy who had him didn't want to draw a penalty by body slamming him, so the little autist slipped away then completed the most unlikely bullshit pass ever.

Brady should already have ring 6
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>>80648071
>whites win
>niggers chimp out
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should he have stayed in the end zone?
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>>80668782
shouldve deflated the refs
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>>80641127

>Britshits in charge of understanding handegg
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>>80658960
>one time out
>one more run
>one quick change to the play
Is it that hard to understand football chang al-bi chang
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>>80668879

No. He caught the ball outside of the end zone then got bumped back in. So if he had taken a knee in the end zone that would have been a safety for Seattle, which nets them two points and they get the ball back on a punt. They'd have enough time for one good pass play then a field goal to win.
Getting out of the end zone was a heads up move by a smart and well coached player.
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>>80650305

>Trump racist meme

Kill yourself you fucking faggot.
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>>80668904

If they had gone for a run and didn't get in they would have had to burn their last time out and then the next 2 plays would 100% have to be pass plays. It's a lot easier for the greatest defensive mind of all time to stop you when he knows you MUST throw the ball.
A hall mark of the Belichick Patriots is their red zone defense. They give up yards but once the field of play shrinks they are very very good at stopping teams. There were a lot of reasons to make the call Carroll did, what really went wrong here is
A. Russ Wilson was staring directly at his receiver the entire time, leaving no doubt where it was going
B. Brandon Browner out-muscled the guy who was supposed to set the pick
C. Locket went at the ball half-heartedly because he was over confident
D. Malcolm Butler gave maximum 200% effort to get to that ball and played it perfectly.
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>>80650305
>DWUMP ID A WAYSIS ME BOATED FO BARNEY DANDERS
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Is this play almost as bad as Stevie G's slip?
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>>80669028

Worse. The soccer play was just one guy falling over, the Butler interception was the result of an entire team of poorly coached professionals blowing it, the year after they had won one of the most lopsided Super Bowls of all time, by holding the highest scoring offense EVER, to only 8 points, ending a potential dynasty before it ever got off the ground, and cementing Tim Brady and Bill Belichick as the greatest QB and Head Coach of all time, which pisses off a lot of football fans.
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>>80669071
Seattle could have won back to back Super bowls, beating 2 of the top 4 QBs of all time, cementing themselves as the greatest giant killers in NFL history.
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Bump, lest we 4get
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>>80669071
At least people are already used to Tam Brody being called the best QB of all time for the past decade, I'm sure they can deal with that. Seattle becoming an actual dynasty would be too much to handle.
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>>80669071
51 cemented that legacy tho. after 49 you could still use the rings argument to say montana > brady
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Y didn' dey run da ball doe???????????
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>>80641960
What if they run the ball and he gets stuffed, forcing a pass and Russell throws the int there? It was more of a good defensive play than a choke on Seattle. What if they ran it and Lynch fumbled the ball? Wouldn't everyone be saying "Why did they run the ball???" It's not like play Pete called was "Throw and interception"
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>>80648071

i still dont see why it was bad for seahawks to go after the ball. Never know what might happen. It's the superbowl
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>>80669071
At the same time, Liverpoop had never really been 1) closer to a premier league title and 2) that, but with Steven Gerrard, easily a club legend. And of course, it was HIM who slipped. The game was over as soon as he slipped. The entire 2nd half was moot. Mourinho and Chelsea trolled their way to a road 0-0. Scoring two goals (the 2nd came in the dying moments when nearly all 11 liverpool players were forward) was a bonus.

This comes like two weeks after Liverpool won an incredible and emotional game against Manchester City, another excellent team. This is where Slippy G rallied his men and gave them a great speech that unfortunately used the words "this does not fucking slip now."

Plus, it's hard to say that this play is "bad." Like you said, it's more of a GREAT play by butler, way more than a bad decision or play by the seahawks.

In the handegg example, two superpowers were fighting each other. In the divegrass example, an underdog was so close to doing the unthinkable, even without being an ACTUAL underdog like Leicester. We're talking about Carson Wentz throwing an absolute duck on the last drive of SB 60 or something, not just once again ruining iggles fans' hopes and dreams, but crushing them and betraying them like never before. Slippy G's slip was worse.
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>>80669087
>choketon manning
>top 4
No
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>>80641209
>filename
Honestly I was invested in the Owl because I wanted to see the Seahawks lose after how arrogant and cocky the Seahawks were acting. Sherman was basically the poster child for that, and seeing that clip live was so fucking satisfying.
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Just thinking back to it gives me the chills. 3 straight super bowls and 3 straight meme catches to delivering >us the L then BANG Butler and lowkey Browner make the play.

>>80639113
I agree with this anon, i thought the pass was the right thing to do as well and no I don't just say so because it went in the Pats favor.
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>>80648149
generally being tired of carrying the team on your back all game
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>>80652327
I still wake up from dreams of high school. Carroll probably goes trough this at least once a week
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>>80674216

I'm the guy you're responding to and I'm a huge Peyton detractor, but on my top five all time I go back and forth between him and Marino for 4th/5th.
He's a choker and a scum bag but he has almost all the career personal statistics records for a few years until Brady and Brees take them. He played in 4 Superbowls and won 2. Even though he has the most one and dones ever, he got his teams to the playoffs almost every year. He ran most every offense he played in, more so than the O.C. His ability to read a defense and make adjustments at the line of scrimmage was one of the best we've ever seen. He's great but has a lot of negatives. So my top five is:
1. Brady
2. Montana
3. Unitas
4. Manning
4a. Marino
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>>80641127
They had a timeout remaining. I doubt he would have been stuffed up at the line for 22 seconds. They could have done the rush, stopped th clock, THEN try the pass play.
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>>80677222
His numbers are heavily inflated by new rules of the era he played in, playing in a dome, playing in the awful AFC South. His numbers in big games against real opponents is horrific.

Of course he was great nobody would say he didn't run offenses and read defenses on a great level. But not 4th all time great. If you want to talk about guys who ran offenses Len Dawson, Bart Starr, Dan Doubts, Fran Tarkenton - all the older legends have a big claim to that in eras where just being a good offense wasn't nearly enough to win. Joe Namath won the most improbable super bowl of all time by outsmarting the Colts defense all game and jamming it down their throats. None of those guys have as many disappointing performancs in big spots as Peyton.
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The Hightower tackle before that pass is pretty overlooked. He doesn't make that tackle and the game is pretty much over.
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>>80651604
>this is the more and more common response to long posts on this website

ISHYGDDT
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>>80668782
>pats fan
>bitching about holding calls the refs forget to call

Ironing
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>>80668782
>Brady should already have ring 6

if brady wins vs. the giants then he probably doesn't win 49 or 51. He needed that loss and embarrassment of losing to be able to clutch out those 2 wins when he needed it most. Plus if you change history in any way it could cause a butterfly effect causing brady to never win another ring.

IMO it was good overall for him to lose that game. 18-1 embarrassment followed by 2 rings > 19-0 any day.
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>>80680208
(((You)))
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>>80680208

This man benches 500lbs and can dunk a basketball on a 10ft hoop and ran a 5.08 on the 40 yard dash (Tom Brady, a 190lbs white man ran a 5.24).
Big Vince is not a good example of a fat non-athlete.
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>>80680208
He could out work you in any competition.
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>>80680198

Fuck off you re-re. Gronk gets held all day every game but because he's a big guy for you the refs let it happen.

18 years of dominating the league and these tiny brain autists still think it has something to do with the refs.
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are the patriots the team of the jew

>bob kraft their owner is jewish
>julian edleman is jewish
>jewish fans
>they cheat to win
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>>80681413
This. Willfork is a freak of nature and I'd kill to see him back in his prime on the Pats.
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>>80674066
Because only once in the history of the NFL has a team turned a ball over due to a failed knee.
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I could watch the tears of my enemies forever

https://youtu.be/Tqbyc2oo3q8?t=7m10s
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>>80651676
Shit dude, this is an awesome series of posts, thanks for taking the time.

>>80651604
God forbid someone does something other than shit post.
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>>80651869
I bet Brady is praying he doesn't run into Wilson this Postseason!
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>>80666746
Will the patriots ever recover?
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>>80681699

kek. reminds me of when Pac got KTFO and all the Flips look like their uncle died

https://youtu.be/VEyaODZRIbA
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>>80681976
Maybe I'll kill you instead?

*teleport behind you*
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>>80652047

LOL enjoy your underwater football sewing degree. I'm a Quick pass O major, 5m/year starting. Couldn't handle the exams so you went with a "muh feels" major. Retard.
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>>80682184

>my personal worth is only measured in currency

I bet you voted for Trump too.
While you were grinding it out in your degree factory with the other clones, i was attending a beautiful, liberal, east coast school devoted to special teams studies with a 3 to 1 female to male student ratio, enjoying all the extra carriculars you'd expect from such a place and smoking the finest bud after class with Professor Ricky Williams.

There are many paths through Football School and you chose the wrong one.
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>>80648576
Good.
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But why do you even ponder passing?
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>>80639055

How can you argue against trying at least one carry with a guy who had this statline in the game? 4 yards per carry all game, it's surely worth one go, especially when Marshawn carried it in at the same distance in the same game.
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>>80683615

Lynch was 1/5 converting from the 1 yard line that season. If he doesn't get in you need to burn your last time out and your last 2 plays will 100% need to be pass plays and Belichick will be aware of this.
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>>80683615
>because Wilsons 2 TD/110 Passer rating was just asking to be picked off

As said numerous times, it was the less risky play
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>>80681699
>that retard clapping at 8:24
Gets me every time
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>>80639055
Ah yes, the patriots steal another game.
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>>80639055
Why didn't he kneel in the endzone? Wouldn't the pats have gotten the ball at the 20?
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>>80641127
>give credit to the Patriots


The Patriots can rot in the netherost depths of Hell for all time.

HOWEVER, once every thousand years, they will be released from Hell and escorted in a limousine motorcade to Heaven, where they will be able to enjoy all the tendies, lingerie models, sweet iced tea and other delights for 24 hours, in recognition of 28-3.
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>>80641798
Is dat sum Gay Shark?
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>>80647420
Lighten up, that's a funny pic.
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>>80648770
>In what world is that pass interference?
Same world where this is.
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>>80651604

>probably took about 30 seconds to a minute to read that
>full of truth, guy knows what he is talking about (football is a bunch of little details autistically combined into a seemingly complicated mess)

i bet if he broke it up with spaces you would say hurr durr reddit spacing
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>>80639189
The Seahawks ran an illegal pick on that play that wasn’t called how did the pats get anything?
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>>80652418

>Gronk doing his job to block and protect his quarterback
>Emotional seahawks start chimping out and taking cheap shots
>Blame Gronk

The retard is you.


>>80660829
you really think after winning 5+ superbowls pats fans will bandwagon? even if they become an average organization again, and go to the owl once every 15 years or whatever, people will still root for them and remember muh glory days


friendly reminder that since robert kraft bought the team in '93 the pats have like a .697 winning percentage, best in the NFL


>>80680205
good post. i hate when people say like winning or losing a superbowl wouldnt change history. butterfly effect is real and lots of shit would happen differently

as a pats fan the seahawks owl especially combined with the falcons owl made 18-1 a distant memory, the butthurt is gone
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>>80682184
>Quick pass O major
what the fuck is that
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>>80681699

i don't like to enjoy the pain of others. it honestly kind of sucks to think of all the losing fans sitting in their living rooms being sad (as a pats fan). i remember how it feels when your team loses the owl, you are legit depressed for weeks.

the reason i don't feel AS bad for the seahawks fans is that half of these people look like they have never watched a game in their life.

just like >>80684863
said, the guy clapping looks like he actually has no idea what the fuck is going on

judging fan bases based on the overgeneralizations of a few is always dangerous and stupid, there are good and bandwagon fans for every team, but i think we know deep down most of these seacuck fans have been fans for like 2 or 3 years at most
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had a shitty day, OP saves it. Thanks OP.
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>>80639113
The best play would've been a screen.
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>lynch just ran it and got stopped by clutch Hightower
>hawks were expecting a time out, hense the play clock at 5
>called a play they scouted Butler specifically to not have good coverage as he historically failed at that exact scheme
outplayed
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this is a pretty good documentary on that patriots season if anyone is interested. Belichick and other coaches talk about the infamous play for awhile at 34:50
https://youtu.be/JdnWmKnUcWg?t=34m50s
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>>80648403
>made two steps outside of the endzone
>hightower there to pick him up and throw him over just in case
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>>80688654
naw but there's a sequel narrated by Edward Norton about the falcon's collapse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2mNuzsVt_w
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>>80688749
w-will we get a third one this season??
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>>80669071
>Tim Brady

Real subtle.
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>>80688801
if the bye rust hits the pats like it did last year then it may get ugly. if the Jags win then the pats will play KC and smith magic often works on the pats.
>if the jags win

also if the Viks get home field for the superbowl they might be hard, though I heard superbowls tend to draw free doritos/ other promotional ticket crowds.
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>>80681699
>Beast mode
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>>80681963
Why is Bennet such a nigger?
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>>80688609

It really made Brady think
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>>80685393
Incorrect.
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Who can stop him, bros?
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>>80689249
f-father t-t-timeeeeeee
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the jew england jews out schemed the seattle niggers

like always

pats will probably draft Rosen
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>>80688997
He plays in a city that lets him get away with his behavior.
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>>80655697
To be fair, it's a different situation. The Pats weren't fighting the clock at that point, and had time to draw something up.
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>>80673993
He's been banged up to end the season, tragically. He was filling in that Shane Vereen role with aplomb
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>>80681963
Slater dancing around just makes it perfect
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>>80689249
His own fragile back, to be quite honest with you, fambloski
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>>80651676
Fucking incredible read.
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>>80689249
>all those quiet stoolers fans
>that one guy folding up his terrible rag
jej
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>>80688749
>That part where they start talking about the absolute meme catches that just seem to happen every single fucking time
It's like fate is trying to stop them and it has failed half of the time
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>>80639092
Kek
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>>80668782
Seething as fuck. Holding happens on every snap, get over it you brainlet casual.
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>>80651604
it's like 5 posts and above the reading comprehension of this entire board, is it too hard for you to read?
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>>80651550
This was great, anon. You really sold the anime perspective with your writing, thanks.
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>>80640124
>Seattle losing the Super Bowl being the greatest shock in the history of sports
Idiot
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>>80689932
Agreed, but not at this level of obviousness.
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>>80681437
>18 years of dominating the league and these tiny brain autists still think it has something to do with the refs.

Just has to do with league favourtism and cheating scandals. But yes "dominance"
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>>80688609
why is this so funny?
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>>80651676
>>80651550
>>80651494
>>80651428
>>80649942
Based autistic anon. Thanks for the read.
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>>80651676
a perfect play would have been going down in the endzone and getting the touchback. butler made a huge mistake by trying to gain yards and he's very lucky they were far enough away from the endzone that they didn't need to run the ball. during the biggest play of his entire life, rather than staying poised and professional, he panicked.
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>>80639055
People who still think this was a bad play call are literally brainlets and need to stop watching football and watch something more simple like apehoop.
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>>80697622
it was a bad read, not a bad play call. lynch was in a good position to make the catch. wilson just proved that he is still a rookie in his mind.
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>>80697638
Yeah or just throwing a better pass to Lockette where the defender had no chance to contest it would've worked too.
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>>80697380

The actual catch by Butler occurred outside of the end zone then the force of the collission with Lockett pushed him back in. If he had taken a knee then it would have been a safety for Seattle. Getting out of the end zone was the right thing to do.
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>>80698743
then why was hightower trying to push him back in?
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>>80639055
I never get tired of seeing this
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>>80698793
because niggers are dumb
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>>80698793
Are you watching the webm in bizarre world? He's trying to get him out and to also protect the ball as Butler goes to the ground.
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>mfw this image is going to be outdated in a month
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>>80697294
It isn't. Brady was alone with his thoughts when Sherman walked over to congratulate him. Something that woman and fags can't understand.
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>>80704072

they will have to add an extra hand
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>only 5 rings
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>>80639055
this moment was so epic

it's when me and all my friends became patriot fans for life

I bought by Malcolm Butler Jersey with my mom's credit card the next week
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>>80651604
Kill yourself
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>>80688609
u mad bro?
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>>80640025
OP didn’t post the buttfumble mate
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>>80681476
nah that’s the New York Jewiants
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>>80704265
It'll be six in a month, don't worry.
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>>80651676
i'll save your posts for future references
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>>80698793
Everything was happening in a split second, the guy was coming off a big hit and lazer concentration on the football, and nobody is 100% sure where their feet are in relation to the goal line in that moment, he made the safest play ensuring they keep the ball and not leave it to chance of the refs calling a safety.

It's actually amazing in the middle of that play he still at the wits and athletic ability to reverse momentum again and ensure the ball got over the line. He did everything perfect.
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>>80651676
You forgot the super underrated Belichick reading his opponent perfectly and not calling a time out.
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>>80704194
speaking of women. Anyone have that webm of Sherman reacting like a black woman to the int?
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>>80713066
#4 you stupid sea spic
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>>80685091
Is it a stretch to say the NFCS enjoyed >28-3 more than Atlanta was hurt by it?




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