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Should the qualification be different?

Italy and The Netherlands out of the world cup and saudi in, how is it fair lads?
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just fuck off
its only their fault
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Daily reminder that this is not a valid World Cup
Not without italy
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life is not fair sunshine, remember last time you didnt even go through the powerhouse of ghana and USA
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>>84317298
How often do women shave their armpits?
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>>84317298
pit whore
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How isn't it fair?
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Italy and Netherlands both had a fair chance at qualifying, but they lost to Sweden. UEFA already has 14 teams in the World Cup compared to AFC's 5 teams, you can't really claim that there are too few European teams.
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Only thing they should change is the seeding for the draws, since it's based on the coca cola ranking
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>>84317298
They lost against germany by 2:1.
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>>84317429
Yes you can. AFC should have 3, COMNEBOL 5.5, AFC .5, CONCACAF 3 and UEFA 20
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>>84317298
i think canada gets a spot in 2026
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>>84317429
It is when UEFA's 14th (Serbia) is better than AFC's 1st (Iran)
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>>84317496
Nigger
Uefa should have 6
Conmebol 3
Concacaf, afc and the other irrelevant one 1 each
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>>84317429
>teams like Serbia get a joke group
>Italy gets into the Spain group and then has to beat the best of the other playoff teams that barely finished behind France
No shame in that.
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>>84317298
It is literally their own fault, and only their fault.
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>>84317298
>tfw no hot and villainous looking northern italian gf
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>>84317612
this is the real issue
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>>84317618
>don't game the seeding system
>y-your own fault lol!
meh
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>no italy
>no netherlands
>england and spain are shit
>brazil is shit
This is going to be the worst WC ever
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while it's true that we didn't have the best seed we didn't deserve to qualify
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>>84317496
>>84317550
It's the World Cup, so it's supposed to have teams from all over the world. The only thing I would change is how they draw the groups, certain UEFA groups were pretty tough (Spain/Italy and France/Netherlands) while others had really easy groups (England, Germany, Belgium, Poland, Serbia)
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>>84317321
You can't say that when you were qualified as host country
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>>84317688
>spain are shit
>>brazil is shit
Nigger
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Italy and Netherlands are football powerhouses they should be in the World Cup.

>African teams
>Asian teams
>N.American teams

Get the fuck out of here man it's not about who's the best.
FIFA is a total shit show.
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>>84317696
Arguably. You shit the bed against Sweden, yes, but it's not like Sweden are a pushover.
Promise you'll be back in 2020? :3
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>>84317618
Italy have been getting fucked over by the FIFA rankings for the past few years because they don't try to artificially boost their rankings like Switzerland.
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>>84317612
And that's because they seed by coca cola rankings
Romania and Wales were pot 1
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>>84317429
>you can't really claim that there are too few European teams


that shouldn't be like that, if European teams are stronger than all others, they should have only European teams, period.
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>>84317298
The Dutch have been the eternal shitlords of World Cup Football since 1998. They knocked out Argentina in 1998 in the quarter-final and then proceeded to shat themselves in the penalty shootout against Brazil. I’m not sure if they were there in 2002 and in 2010 they knocked out Brazil in the quarter-finals by arseing their way to an underserved victory and in 2014 they made it all the way to the semi-final without scoring in regular time throughout the entire knockout phase of the tournament, the Dutch, the eternal shitlords of World Football.
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>>84317753
Vlad being based as always
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>iceland made it but you didnt

you only have yourself to blame
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>>84317678
>>84317753
I agree asia and africa should have a fewer spots. But losing to iceland and sweden bulgaria you have no bizniz being in WC anyway.
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>>84317298
Move them to the Asian confederation along with the USA and Chile if you want them to not miss a WC (like the aussies did).
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>>84317766
It's a promise.
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because it's the WORLD cup, that's why
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>taking this long to figure out the ANTI-EUROPEAN agenda of FIFA and the WORLD
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Also if you are defending Fifa rankings you deserve a bullet in the back of your skull.

>>84317954
yea and it's SHIT
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>>84317965
this tbqh
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>>84317914
Sweden usually make it past the group stage in the World Cup. You can lose to that team on two bad days.
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>>84317954
Brazil wouldn't qualify through UEFA qualifying, you have the easiest qualifiers in the world, just be quiet
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>>84317804
>implying Netherlands '98 weren't based as fuck
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Should qualifying be regional? Should it be seeded instead? Should group stages be gotten rid of?
>inb4 fuck off yank
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if Italy can't beat Macedonia and Sweden they don't deserve to be in the WC
and Netherlands lost to fucking >us
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>>84317298
>how is it fair lads?
>life should be fair
lmfao
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>>84317387
Depends on the woman and how fast the hair grows.
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>>84317429
AFC should have 2 teams. Concacaf should have 2. The rest should be uefa and comnebol
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>Brazil wouldn't qualify through UEFA qualifying, you have the easiest qualifiers in the world, just be quiet
oh yeah, how the fuck would we qualify playing against the mighty wales, andorra and gibraltar
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>>84317753
Fuck off gypsy
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>>84318107
Italy and Netherlands are better than you
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>>84318086
NAh conmebol already has enough and should probably have one less. Peru are a fucking joke.

>>84318107
Didn't your country get absolutely smashed 7-1 by a UEFA team? You're Gibraltar tier
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>>84317298
The MafFifa only cares about money.
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>>84318048
>Should qualifying be regional?

Why should it be regional if you're looking for the best teams to compete in the World Cup?

>>84318154
Go fuck yourself mutt I'm speaking the truth.
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>>84317750
Spanish team got a new coach yesterday. Why the fuck do you think they're any good?
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>>84318215
Its really this desu. Do you want the World Cup to be about the best the world has to offer or a chance for the world to play each other? As it stands the world cup is more about the latter.
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>>84317618

You got lucky, friend.
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FIFA just want football to reach the rich oil and mineral countries in Africa and Middle east. The system needs a change there are teams that are not WC tier.
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>>84318389
nah Alberto don't expect changes they're actually expanding in the Asian market ((( $ )))
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>>84318389
UEFA should go rogue and invite Brazil, Argentina, Urgay, and Australia to the Euros and we can have an actual world cup.
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>>84318485
No brown people allowed
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>>84317429

good bait
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>>84318531
Thanks for that great contribution to the thread
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>>84317429
fifa solving the problem by having 48 team tournaments
expect games like italy vs tonga soon
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>>84318563
You're very welcome my white brother
(if not, fuck off)
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>>84317794
That's why you have the Euros, you stupid french nigger.
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The number of UEFA teams in World Cup used to equal the number of teams in UEFA championships, which was nice.
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>>84318636
The point is that the world cup claims to be the best teams in the world when that is obviously not the case. Otherwise it would be mostly euros and 0-2 CONCACAF for example.
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This is why 48 teams is a good idea. If half the teams are shit when there's only 32, might as well add more.
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>>84317618
t. denied goal
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>>84317496
if only concacaf had more places then usa might be able to qualify
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imagine if you were OUT OF THE WORLD CUP because THIS was called a goal

>the absolute fucking state of FIFA

we should be in the world cup, not these saudis'

Any other country and this would go to international investigation. But to the US? nope. It's more fucking blatant than thierry's handball
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>>84317612
>>teams like Serbia get a joke group
actually it was wales who got a joke group kek
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>>84318781
>we should be in the world cup, not these saudis'

You are just salty.

Netherlands and Italy definitely but in the US soccer is like the 5th sport and your national league is shit even though they pour money into it like crazy.
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And now imagine a world cup with 48 teams. It will surely suck
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>>84317965
>taking this long to figure out the ANTI-EUROPEAN agenda of FIFA and the WORLD
What Anti-European agenda ? From 32 teams in total, 14 are from Europe - almost half of them.
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>>84319057
Clearly not enough lmao.

>>84318781
If your whole qualification comes down to such a tight decision then you probably didn't deserve to go desu.
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Damn janitor deleted the thread where I was blowing the fuck out of yuros about the offside rule.
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>>84319108
You got stumped by the anon that fucked up on goal kicks. Was pretty embarassed for you.
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>>84319108
Attacker plays ball in open play past 2nd last defender in opposition half.
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>>84319092
>If your whole qualification comes down to such a tight decision then you probably didn't deserve to go desu.

Isn't that how we got Beckham's most famous goal? You barely scraped by Greece to get into 2002.
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>>84319211
And?
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>>84319108
>>84319199
Amerilard BTFO
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>>84319199
>you can't pass the ball backward when the ball is past the second to last defenders

You faggots really need to study up on the offside rule.
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>>84319291
>The state of this barrel scraping
What is a pass amerifriend?
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>>84319199
>it's offside if nobody interferes with play

God damn guys. I thought it was "your" sport. You really don't know how offside works?
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>>84319291
Jesus this is sad
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>>84319344
What does that even mean? Nice samefag btw
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>>84317496
No lets give all the spots to EUFA so we have the europa cup every 2 yeras instead, retard

It's supposed to be a WORLD cup not a European cup + some South America teams
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>>84319382
Being in an offside position, or even playing a ball to an offside player, is not an offense.

Said player has to be involved in play, according to the referee.

Y'all really don't know how offside works, do you?
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>>84319413
I'd rather watch the best teams in the world.
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>>84319430
The offside player is playing the ball in my definition you utter retard. Your feeble burger brain is getting in the way here.

Now tell me what is a pass?
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>>84319430
Holy mother of reddit spacing
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>>84319439
They are expanding to 48 teams so basically thats what you are going to get
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>>84318781
>not a single white man int the field
56% meme was true.
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>>84319548
No because there are going to be more shitters from all the other federations who already have too many.
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>>84319480
I'm just challenging you to define "offside" in 20 words or less. You clearly can't. My only point was that it's a complex rule, don't pretend offside is easy to understand.

It takes wikipedia like 1,000 words to explain offside.
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>>84317353
I'm just grateful not to have to watch more Italian diving and play-acting. The less of that shit the better.
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>>84317429
>ou can't really claim that there are too few European teams.

you clearly and obviously can when you could name 10-20 European teams that are better than all of the Asian, African and Central American teams(bar Mexico)

Europe, particularly the small nations, get absolutelu fucking shat on by FIFA. If you're a 4th seeded team you could possibly need to finish 2nd in a group with Spain, Italy and Sweden, and then play A PLAYOFF against someone like France. It's ridiculously hard when you consider Asian teams get to play utter shite like Iraq, Syria and China
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>>84319601
Lad I did it here
>>84319199
This isn't complex unless your standards for complex are incredibly low.
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>>84317536
Canada: no diving, play-acting whining, actual men playing
USA: no diving, play-acting whining, actual men playing

yes, please
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>>84319655
So all you have to do is kick the ball past the second to last defender in the opposition half and it's an offside offense? That's what you're going with? That's offside?

Here's a link to the LOTG, study up m8.
https://img.fifa.com/image/upload/datdz0pms85gbnqy4j3k.pdf
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>>84319677
My Sunday league team is like that but we don't deserve a spot at the wc. Stay in your lane Canada.
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>>84319601
>If you benefit from being in place where there is fewer than 2 opposite players between you and end line then it is offside.
It is fucking easy rule.
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>>84319601
>define "offside" in 20 words or less
Offside position is being nearer to the opponents' goal line than both the ball and the second last opponent.
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>>84319718
No the offside player has to play the ball which is what my definition says. I've repeated that about 4 times now.
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>>84318193
>MaFifa

That ain’t gonna stick, gypsy
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>>84319751
>>84319763
If you read the thread you can see where's he's going to pick these apart. Let this anon continue to BTFO him
>>84319768
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>>84317387
mine rarely does.
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>>84319751
>goal kicks, throw ins and corners are offside offenses
>>84319763
>being in an offside position is an offense

Top kek.
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>>84319728
>My Sunday league team is like that but we don't deserve a spot at the wc.
Well, we could certainly beat fucking Saudi Arabia, and your Sunday team probably could, too, so don't disqualify these teams with such haste. Deeper pondering is required.
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Why even discuss it, arent they expanding it next world cup?
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>>84317353
t. narizon
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>>84317298
No, our team sucks
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This is how the World Cup should look

AFC Cup winner
AFCON winner
Mexico
Argentina
Brazil
Chile
Uruguay
Peru
Ecuador
Colombia
Germany
Belgium
Portugal
Switzerland
France
Poland
Spain
Denmark
England
Holland
Wales
Italy
Croatia
Iceland
Sweden
Austria
Slovakia
Northern Ireland
Serbia
Ireland
Scotland
Ukraine
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>>84318677
First of all, FIFA doesn't make any claim of that sort. It's simply a 'World Cup'. It's not the 'best teams in the world, cup'. Also, britbongs should be the last people talking about best teams. Probably gonna lose to Panama.
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>>84319768
So if the attacker doesn't play the ball, but he interferes with an opponent, he's not offside, right?
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>>84317298
They where just not good enough. At least for the netherlands I saw a horrible game after another. It was clear that this won't be enough.

Didn't pay much attention to Italy tho. What happened in Italy?
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>>84319845
you need USA in there
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>>84319863
Ignoring fouls the sort of "interference" you refer to comes under playing the ball. I learned this as a child anon how are you not getting it?
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>>84319768
If the ball was passed backwards to him, he's still offside? Shit.
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>>84317429
We didn't lose to sweden, we beat them twice.
No need to change the qualifying rules though other than maybe put head to head result as the first tie breaker.
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>>84319890
So if a guy in an offside position obstructs a player 50 meters away from the ball, he's "playing the ball." Cool.
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>>84319940
Obstruction is a different type of foul? You're not even trying now are you.
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>>84319973
Respond to this pls.
>>84319900

Obstruction is not a foul if you're 50 meters away from the ball you dense britlard. But it is an offside offense, given the player was in an offside position.
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>>84317688
>'94
>Brazil is shit
>win

>'98
>OMG Brazil is so good
>lost

>'02
>Brazil is shit
>win

>'06
>OMG Brazil is soooo good
>lost

>'10
>Dunga
>lost just as expected

>'14
>OMG BRAZIL IS GOOD AND IS THE HOST
>7x1

>'18
>Brazil is shit
>...

I'm looking foward to it
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>>84319900
Fair enough add "unless passed backwards". 16 words.

>>84320020
It's not an offside offence unless it interferes with play of the ball.

Still not seen a single American define a pass btw.
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>>84319768
Nope.
passing the ball is irrelevant.
It is about "profiting from being in the offside position".
It is mostly by getting a pass that bypasses the defense but you can benefit from offside in different ways, like blocking a view for a goalkeeper.
At least that was around 2008-2012
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i like serbian, polish, swedish, belgian, dutch, german(swiss ch + austiran at incl) women
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Not gonna BTFO any more burgers on offside until they define a catch for me.
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>>84320120
Ok pretty good. I'm only trying to point out that offside is more complicated than it seems.

Define a pass? What sport?
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>>84318050
Sweden lost to you too.
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>>84320242
I meant catch. And lad it's still not complex. It's just not a 3 word rule.
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>>84317353
Cállate narizon feo y prieto
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>>84320268
Firstly, I admit that a catch is a complex rule. Like offside, it's definition has changed over the years. They just rewrote the catch rule a couple months ago. Will look it up.
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Can someone explain how well received the world cups rankings are? Since this is even an argument at all, where are the frustrations for which teams get in to the top contention?
> Ameri-chad here who never really gave a shit about the world cup enough to look into how teams actually get in needs confirmation by experience
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>>84318013
stfu, rapefugee... it would be much more easier to wreck pushovers like Malta, Luxemburgo, Sweden and England than to play win 2x against Argentina and Ureagay.

Hell, it would be easier to push your european shit back into your european asses than to play against Bolivia at those 7000m above the sea pitchs.
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>>84317321

It's their fault they are in the toughest qualifying region. There are 9 European teams ranked in the top 40 in FIFA rankings that didn't qualify. The best teams should be there. Playoffs should be between all regions. So the Euro teams that didn't auto qualify play against African or Asian teams that didn't auto qualify. May the best team win.
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>>84320417
World cup qualification is based on each federation holding a qualification process to fill out their alloted number of spots. The issue we have is that UEFA does not get enough spots given the general quality of our nation's compared to other federations.
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>>84317612
>barely
Let's not overdo it. We were a clear four points behind thanks to our meme loss against Bulgaria.
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>never lost a game at san siro
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>>84318677
No, the World cup is about teams from all over the world.
Just watch the Euro cup if you're going to get triggered.
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>>84320482
has there been any concern from other regions that have complained when this is brought up?
I get that its difficult for any true ranking system being clear and cut globally, but I don't get how else they make an argument for not including actual top teams worldwide
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>>84320452
it's not about the FIFA ranking, otherwise you might as well just skip the qualification and just send the top 32 teams an invite. Fuck that. You gotta perform when it matters, tough shit but you know what the rules are and losing to Sweden in a playoff is pitiful for Italy. Fuck them lasagnafaggots, based world cup.
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>>84320706
Nobody is actually complaining officially. It's just us whining about it.
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>>84319790
french gf eh?
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>>84320756
ahh lmao alright thanks
>>84320718
so no one agrees this shit really matters unless youre in the top 4 right?
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bit off topic but let me just say how much l enjoy licking a girl's armpits; especially when they giggle and squirm and say it's gross that u do that but they're secretly loving it
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>>84320718

That's not an argument because uefa qualification is so much harder than beating Yemen and Oman. Of course the whole world should be represented but after the top two or three they should have to earn their place by beating European playoff teams. If they are good enough they will still qualify, if not then we a get a team who deserves to be there instead of cannon fodder
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>>84320527
still the toughest playoff draw
Italy would have mauled the other three I'm sure
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>>84318531
If only your country could say that as well
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>>84318677
>Best teams would be mostly euros.
I fail to see how bumfuck Romania or Slavland is better than Nigeria or Tunsia in 2018.
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>>84319845
I fail to see why Peru,Denmark, Wales, Iceland, Slovakia, Scotland and NI deserve anything. They're all worse than my local team.
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>>84318215
Gypsy scum
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>>84321017
I once tried to lick my gf's armpit but she'd used stick deodorant. It was fucking disgusting.
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>>84317298
It might be flawed, but the Netherlands absolutely deserves not to be there this time. What a trash organization and mentality these last years it's been.

A place in the back is exactly what they need right now.
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>>84319439
I'd assume you're ready to permanently withdraw England from the competition then
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>>84322316
Idk m8, we won the euro cup and played 3-2 vs Brazil in 98 (the best team they've ever had) in the WC quarter finals. Meanwhile, you've never even gotten through the group stage.
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>>84320294
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>>84317298
Yes, 2 weeks before WC starts first 32 teams on FIFA ranking qualify.
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>>84319574
kek that's Costa Riva vs Panama
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>>84318013
Could you imagine Brazil in a qualifiers group vs
>Estonia
>Montenegro
>Cyprus
>Giorgia
>Moldavia
>Lituania
>Luxemburg
>San marino
Man that would be tough for Brazil
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>>84317612

This. Italy and us had to deal with Spain and France. Given our current situation this almost assured a 2nd place. Then with luck, some world class fuck ups and a soaring Swedish side winning way more than they should be. We both lost out. Then there's shit teams who got some crappy group or had to play against weak play off teams. Why not account for this?

Two of the biggest countries in terms of reputation are not included in the biggest tournament of the world. Genius planning FIFA.
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>>84319439
>I'd rather watch the best teams in the world.
>losing to sweden

best teams in the world would literally be a 12 teams tourney
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>>84318376

Finally someone who says it.
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>>84317688
>>england and spain are shit
>>brazil is shit
you haven't watched a minute of football have you?




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