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Paizo Games General /pgg/ (also /pfg/)

Character Art Edtion:

How do you design your character's appearance? Pick a brace of images to reference off of? Or just find something "Most Similar"
/pfg/ Link Repository (Pathfinder): https://pastebin.com/JLu5xXML
/sfg/ Link Repository (Starfinder): https://pastebin.com/3GfJKi0y
Current Playtests: https://pastebin.com/quSzkadj

Old Thread: >>54846775
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>>54853212
....mustachioed elf is cute.
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>>54853212

Depends on the character. Sometimes I'll go concept -> art -> look, sometimes, I'll go concept -> look -> art, sometimes I'll go art -> concept -> look. Sometimes I just don't find art.
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>>54853153
Like? smite evil? cool feature, but only works against Evil, maybe is just my personal experience, but Evil chars are scarce as fuck in every campaign I have been into, maybe the BBEG and one or two others, which makes the Paladin shine like once in ever 20 games, not very fun.

Now that Divine Protection got nerfed well, yeah, Paladins have pretty good saves, but that's almost it, 2 level dip.
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>>54853212
I usually base the character off art, rather than base the art off the character.
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>>54853212
Come up with the concept then look for a fitting picture,
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>>54853212
It's the last, last step.
I come up with a very basic concept, then the mechanics, then backstory so as to encompass those as needed, desperately try to find an image that's appropriate, and then adjust things like hair color and appearance descriptions to match more closely.
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>>54853212
I love that mustache.
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>>54853212
"Dude, look! Moustache!"
And this is how now I have the weirdest boner.
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This picture is to scale.
The tiny red thingy is a real life ship.
The huge black blob is a Starfinder spaceship.
The fun part? They have exactly the same crew size and total mass.
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>>54853555
>manned by giants
>made out of Nano-Encapsulated Aerogel
What now?
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>>54853555
And that makes perfect sense.

Automation is a thing.
Light materials are a thing.
You must use light materials in shipbuilding because mass does not go away in zero g.
The Drift is not real space and takes different motive powers than a pair of turnscrews run by a diesel engine.

Basically, you're fishing for replies.
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>>54853608
Not him, and I mostly agree, but how about artificial gravity inside the ship? how would those light as fuck materials would support stuff made for planets (like vehicles, supplies, people, droids, etc)?

The answer is syfy materials with minimal mass and max resistances
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According to page 293, crew numbers are only relevant to NPC-controlled ships and PC's pilot their own ship without crew help.
According to page 316, NPC's can aid another each other in combat, which massively boosts their skill capacities.
According to page 327, all NPC crew members get amazing skill bonuses - by level 20, their good skills are +34, their best skills are +39.
+39 is identical to what a level 20 Operative with a +8 relevant ability modifier and a +2 racial bonus to the skill would have, making it pretty amazing.

Now, let's look at the DC's.
The DC's are insane - the very lowest level 20 DC's are 50, being a fuck you to anyone but Operatives and Envoys, most are in the 55-60 range, making them fairly difficult for even Operatives and Envoys who call in computer support, and some are as high as 70, being impossible for even an Operative with aforementioned skill modifier who requested computer support for a +10 and rolled a nat 20 for a total of 69.
This makes for crazy difficult DC's for PC's, with PC's failing them more often as levels increase.
On the other hand, increasing crew sizes massively helps NPC's, which means that NPC ships become hypercompetent with level while PC ships become increasingly incompetent with level to the point of autofailing most checks unless they call in computer support (which is at most 2 checks per round for the entire ship) and autofailing some checks EVEN WITH computer support.
All in all, it seems like while low level ship combat is possible for PC's, NPC's utterly dominate and wipe the floor at high levels.
Moreover, all non-Operative non-Envoy characters quickly become useless at ship combat due to incredibly brutal scaling on skill DC's.

How is this remotely sane?
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>>54853649
Tensile strength is not reliant on density of material anon. It's reliant on the construction of the material. That's why carbon fiber nanotubes are nearly indestructible while weighing nearly nothing.
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>>54853555
I want to steal a Dreadnought and Allahu Ackbar it into a Sun City!
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>>54853678
>implying that just because a PC doesn't need help means he cannot get help
The fact that you're stupid might have something to do with it.
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>>54853705
That's what the rules say.
You can't be aided by the NPC's if you're a PC.
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>>54853700
....why? That's kind of rude to the explorers and research teams.
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>>54853710
What page does it say that on?
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>>54853680
Nobody is saying it would "break" but deformations might happen, even if it's 100% elastic ones.
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>>54853728
Page 293 says PC's control the ship without a crew.
Page 316 specifically says that NPC ships can use aid another, thus contrasting them with PC ships.
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How well written are Ironman Mint Vase On and Beige Peons?

That's Ironfang Invasin and Strange Aeons respectively.
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>>54853730
Deformation might be intensional, considerign hard and inflexible materials break when exposed to high stress, such as, say, THE DRIFT or gravitic/magical/psychic/physical anomalies.]

Just saying.
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>>54853717
They're filthy Sarenrites! Glory to the Black!
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What SF class best suits an Admiral/Petty officer of a spaceship? Someone with not-bad skills with the saber and pistol but ultimately valuable because they have useful utility abilities when outside their ship.
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>Most androids are fully grown at the time of their birth, and can technically live forever through constant repair, though most androids voluntarily release their bodies after a century or so to allow new souls to inhabit them- a process called renewal that's viewed more as procreation than suicide.

Can someone explain how this bit of lore works? So most androids just decide to basically do a factory reset on themselves after a while? And that's normal? And then people think of the new android (also why does it get a new soul when the old one passes on) as like a child to the first, even though they have no connection of personality, experience, or childhood with them? How should non-androids view this? I just don't really understand it, not how it would work or why someone would do it, so it reasonable to assume most people wouldn't?

This just gives me so many questions.
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>>54853212
>sample image

Why.
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Friendly reminder that the Inner Planes still exist in Starfinder so all real world science is bullshit!
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>>54853678
>>54853705
>>54853710
>>54853728
>>54853739
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>>54853858
That's exactly what I said, no?
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>>54853744
Why should the Drift be high stress, it's literally called the Drift, aka multi-planar drifting.
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>>54853830
It's called 'alien culture', anon. You shouldn't understand it immediately, or perhaps at all, especially if you are a player. it should, in fact, freak you the fuck out as a human, especially with how precious humans think their individual souls are.
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>>54853865
>multi-planar drifting
Masaka!!
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>>54853854
Unfriendly reminder that autistic idiots should not be listened to because they're so creatively bankrupt they can't comprehend the possibility of parallel systems existing in concert and tandem at the same time.
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>>54853887
Okay chief, let's have our W-bosons and gluons while there are earth elementals from the Plane of Earth where all earthy stuff comes from. And water elementals from the Plane of Water where all watery stuff comes from...
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>>54853865
Yes, because drifting through multiple planes of reality and existence can't possibly be stressful on material objects.

Fuck.
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>>54853865
Reminder that while using the Drift, you have the perfect chance to have a call back to a Pathfinder campaign as the ship passes through one of your permanent demi-planes you automated to factory produce copies of yourself, leaving an entire plane to be filled to the brim with clones of a gray haired old man.
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>>54853901
The concept of spiritual reality intersection with physical reality is so old that they actually have their roots in hunter-gatherer societies, anon.

Literally, the idea that the physical worlds and the spiritual world are interconnected and also separate is a basic precept of shamanic tradition since humans still used their knuckles to walk. It is not that hard to grasp.
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>>54853913
I have plans to do exactly this. My theory on drift is that its using pre Gap space where demiplanes where held. One of these days the party will have their ships malfunction and crash into one of the demiplanes created by our many PCs who achieved immortality from one way or the other and be in for a surprise as old characters make cameos and offer to sell PF wondrous items in exchange for information on the new world.
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>>54853951
You know, there's literally a massive library in one of the Pathfinder books that's nothing but a demiplane that eats other demiplanes. Maybe it's related.
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>>54853678
Page 316 does not say NPCs can use aid another during ship combat phases.

Page 316 says that the officer requires the assistance of a minimum amount of crew in order to operate on those ships. In fact, it specifically notes that the individual crew members do not take turns.

Ship combat is in phases. Aid another can't even be used in ship combat by anyone, NPC or PC.
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>>54854030
But the book says the skill modifier of each individual crew member, and it's massive.
There's very little leeway to interpret "assist" as anything other than "aid another".
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>>54853930
Sure but the Inner Planes are literally reality's building blocks.
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>>54854036
There is very little leeway to interpret "assist" because "assist" isn't "aid another" so it's not "aid another". Why would you inject a tactical combat action into the explanation of phase-based ship combat?

Stats are defined because the officers clearly use those stats.
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How many teeth have your character lost over his/her career? Did you replace them with gold ones?
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>>54853876
Well sure, that's fine, but I still want to know how the process works. Why does the Android body just get a new soul? That doesn't happen to anybody else, a human can die and then have their corpse repaired but no new soul is going to enter it. Also, what does this mean for attempting to revive an Android that's undergone renewal? Does it erase the current soul inhabiting that body, or make a new body, or just fail?
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>>54854030
>it would take hours to resolve a single round
Oh ho ho ho.
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>>54854063
Even if that reading is right, it just means high level DC's are retarded for everyone.
As said, an Operative can't hit the DC 60 DC without computer support and struggles with the DC 55 without computer support.
Computer support is extremely limited, so your average high level ship will be failing most checks all over, with incompetence increasing with levels.
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>>54853212

Nice picture ruined with the stache.
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>>54854070
None! He a good boy about them teeth.
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>>54847676
Why does he deserve a +4 magic item at 5th level but not my monk, who has 0 magic items beyond healing potions?
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>>54854070
His grow back in the matter of minutes and feel nothing and he uses them to bite fully armored men and tears them out if something is stuck between them, so I would say that where others of his charisma leave a trail of broken hearts he leaves a trail of broken teeth.
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>>54854123
There's a difference between 'deserving of pity' and 'deserving of being put down'.
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In SF, is there a maximum amount of ranks you can put in a skill at each level, or can you dump all your points into one or two skills if you so choose?
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>>54854123
Which are his stats and feats? maybe he's underpowered and that's why the GM threw him a bone
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>>54854192
20, 14, 16, 9, 12, 9
Pretty sure these are some of his feats:
Power attack
Furious focus
Weapon focus (greatsword)
Weapon specialization (greatsword)
Cleave

He has a fullplate, ring of swimming or whatever, and now an adamantine +2 undead bane dragon bane greatsword

My equipment barely reaches 300 gp

And like I said in the previous thread, no magic item feats allowed, no magic item market yet because city is in development (we can only buy stuff belog 300 gp), and magic items found in encounters are rolled but it's always +1 leather armor (we have now 5), some mithral light armors, some darkwood bows and quarterstaves, some scrolls, some rings but none +1 something only stuff like swimming or that one that lets you survive with 50% or so of food and water, a +1 dagger, and that motherfucking greatsword that costs literally more than everything we found so far
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>>54854158
>In SF, is there a maximum amount of ranks you can put in a skill at each level
1/level
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Anyone else hate it when you spend about thirty hours proofreading, editing and writing an app only to not get in the game because of something that GM didn't mention?
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>>54854374
The whole culture of apps are retarded
You should pick players first, characters second
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>>54853250
God damnit. Cannot unsee.
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>>54853555
>Expecting quality design from Paizo

Have you learned nothing, sweet child of mine?
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Where do whores go?
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>>54854654
Hell, mostly.
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>>54854654
To jail usually, depending on the current country's laws on prostitution.
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>>54854374
>because of something that GM didn't mention?
wut
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>>54854654
A better question; what are brothels like in Cheliax?
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>>54854694
Full of Tieflings.
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>>54854683
Yep. Not a very good feeling.
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>>54854714
Tell me about it!
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>>54854694
Missionary Position only.
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>>54854726

That close to Nidal, though?
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>>54854754
Zon-Kuthon is an incredibly active deity, anon. They love missionary work and missionary positions.
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>>54854099
What are operative gunners trying to roll to beat DC 60 for? The highest level ship that I can find is the Tyrant, and it has an AC of 28 and a TL of 26.

Are you referring to gunnery attack rolls? An operative who is equal level to the Tyrant and has put max ranks into piloting has over a 50% chance to hit the Tyrant without computers, captains, or dex modifiers, whether or not the Tyrant is using stunts.

Otherwise I'm not sure what this DC60 is.
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>>54854875
Skill checks, m8.
All skill checks fall into one of the following DC categories:
>10+2*Tier
>15+2*Tier
>20+2*Tier
>10+3*Tier
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>>54854317
It's time to accept that he's secretly a DMPC and move on.
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I want to duo app as a Chewie and Fuckface pair in Starfinder.
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>>54854884
That's Pathfinder skill scaling. Starfinder uses generally lower numbers for everything.
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>>54854951
Those DC's are from the starship combat chapter.
I literally looked through the chapter and marked down all DC's that ever appear there - all of them fell into one of those categories.
In other words, they kept DC scaling from Pathfinder, but nerfed skill modifier scaling, which is retarded.
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>>54854902
Like this?
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>>54854980
Yes!
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Can I use monkey style with a bow user?
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>>54855024
Climbing requires both hands free.
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Starfinder campaign when?
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>>54855195
I gotta finish reading this rulebook first!
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>>54855209
Tell me about the campaign idea you have in mind!
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>>54855247
Probably let my microphile preference out again and run a world visiting colonization campaign. Imaginw Tiny people visiting the worlds of giants and helping them out with stuff in exchange for supplies.

Might use some of the meme ideas from /pgg/
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Should my Starfinder Elf be a melee expert, or a big shoot-banger?
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>>54855149
??
Monkey style doesn't do what you think it does
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>>54855332
Do it!
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Are there any pathfinder spells that will allow me to drift a wagon?
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Is there a table for drift travel? I can't find anything in the CRB.
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>>54855449
I like how the Starstone is basically the Golden Throne, and any ship traveling to Absalom Station (regardless of distance) can do so within 1d6 days.
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>>54855247
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>>54855552
>You would you like to know more?

[YES]
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oi
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>>54855247
Not that Anon but I'll probably do one set shortly after the gap. Vesk are still hostile aliens are still alien and PCs have to deal with culture shock for the first time and I'll probably cut that corporation shit out of the story completely.
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>>54855621
But what if I wanted to play a Vesk?
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Nobody can run their custom campaigns until Alien Archieve drops
You can only run Adventure Path
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>>54855626
That would be the point. You can play any Ayylmao but dealing with adversity would be one of the challenges. I know SF current setting is ultra progressive and while that kind of makes things PC, I'd like aliens to feel you know... alien. Even when dealing with other aliens.
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>>54855631
I mean, GMs can take all the enemies from the AP, and possibly add more using them as a baseline for creating their own things, but that's asking a lot.
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>>54855661
I'm cool with that. Try it, anon.
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Tell me, say I wanted to run a Bloodborne inspired campaign. Would it be better to use PF or SF basic rules, and what tweaking would I need to capture that BB feel in terms of mechanics and character design? I was thinking Commonplace Guns and using both Jolly and DHB Gunslingers would be a good start.

Also, what would be a good way to implement something like Insight? Or would it be best to instead just treat it as a purely narrative aesthetic?
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>>54853422
I do the opposite. Finding art is a chore, so I start with an image and give it a story
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>>54855621
I'm disappointed that Dwarves don't have racial animosity with the Vesk. They're about to clash in every picture I can find them in.
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>>54855661
Starfinder is way too progressive, it doesn't even have white men in it.
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Going to play a zen archer in an incomming Jade Regent game (from 1st level), am I going to suffer from my character concept choice?
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>>54855626
I want to play as a bratty ensign with a vesk bodyguard. He would behave in a slightly xenophobic manner towards the vesk but he secretly harbors fraternal sentiments toward his guardian.

Maybe at some point in the campaign someone would ask him if he has siblings and he would respond with something along the lines of "I have a very kind and caring brother that I look up to very much".

Kind of cheesy now that I think about so maybe I'll dial it down if something like that ever becomes possible.
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>>54855785
Zen Archer is braindead easy for combat, but outside of that I dunno what you got to work with.
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>>54855785
>Literally the easiest class to play

You will full attack everything to death for the duration of the campaign without having to worry about saves and any other shit.
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So, for SnS, what's the meme apps and what're the apps most likely to get in?
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Currently recruiting games are:
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/85043/bones-and-bed-shackles (ends in one week...if it is real) - lewd AP
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/85418/mint-rebels-double-treason (ends in two weeks) - rationalist spin on Hell's Rebels AP
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/84677/godslayers (ends in one month and a half) - kill gods, be mythic
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/86036/the-colonization-on-proverum - first starfinder game

Research claims that 97% of people that didn't finish their app don't get into the game. Why didn't you finish your app, anon?
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>>54855856
>Proverum
Roll20 rando game, right?
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>>54855877
What the hell, I may as well give it a try.
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>>54855877

I believe I've seen GM here. It's not the 10$ meme.
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>>54855856
Wait, who are the 3% that get into a game without a finished App?
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>>54855914
Wouldn't you like to know.
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>>54855914
People who PM the DM their ERP logs.
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>>54855800
>>54855805
So I won't find myself in close as fuck quarters provoking AoOs like crazy for like 6 levels? cool
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>>54855747
how do those vesk axes even work
is it fire or like what
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>>54855735
The trick is that SF has much better gun rules, but PF has a much better setup for Bloodborne in general. If you can back-port the weapon systems to PF, that should do it.
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>>54855947
Oh you will have that problem, but just 5-ft away and be sure to have allies in front of you.
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>>54855247
Dark Tower meets the A-Team. You're an elite group of mercenaries hired by a rich man to bring back a piece of art that was stolen from him by a mysterious malefactor. The problem is, he's across two continents by now, and it's YOUR JOB to tear through the entirety of the West, the sea, and the Far Lands in order to find that man and kill him.
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OP says character art edition, so I guess I'll contribute a little bit.

I don't know yet what kind of character I'll want to play in Starfinder, but this image makes me like the idea of a Shirren soldier. Not that I'll ever get to play. ForeverGM
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>>54855785
>>54855947
Take a look at 2 level dip into inquisitor (conversion inquisition),
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>>54856071

Do they delight in choosing the weapon and ammunition they use for each engagement?
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>>54856165
Do not mix pleasure with business
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Dead Suns leaks when reeeeeeeeeeeee
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>>54855856
>https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/85043/bones-and-bed-shackles (ends in one week...if it is real) - lewd AP

I hope it's real, just long enough for a group consisting entirely of characters and people I hate to get in; then after about two sessions it ends, leaving htem crushed and drained of hope.
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how do you people even tolerate new games at this point
you are probably get fooled again and all that work for nothing
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>>54856381
To maximize the pain.
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>>54856381
I got into molthune. At this point bamboozles don't even boozle my bambs anymore.
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>>54856409
I got into Intrigue, so that's something. :^)
>inb4 pain is maximized
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>>54856165
No, he takes his time and savors choosing what gear to take beforehand, and he travels light so he's less likely to get distracted during battle. But he does relish the choice of who to shoot first in combat.
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Let's optimize bamboozling.
Timing: Session 2. While it is easier to do no sessions at all, doing session 1 before you pull the trigger will lull some players into getting more engaged with the potential game because they have already played together atleast once.
Method: Silent treatment. While it easier to move on by just announcing it is over, silently disappearing lets the disappointment slowly seep in, stronger and more bitter than the faster way.
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>>54856318
right holy shit like i know you faggots have them GIMME GIMME
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>the forum spammer actually got banned for his thread
kek
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>Try to be heroic
>Have to flee and withdraw half the combats to let big boys handle the encounter
Being martial is suffering
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>>54855856
>https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/86036/the-colonization-on-proverum - first starfinder game
>0 Open slots
W
O
W
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>>54856732
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>>54855856
>Bones and Bed Shackles
Reviews WHEN
alternatively
Who is the best p/y/rate and who is the best b/u/ccaneer?

>Mint Rebels Double Treason
Not really my cup of tea but you do you

>Godslayer
I need to finish putting my character sheet together. Who else is planning to app but hasn't yet?

>Colonization on Proverum
Looks like it's already done recruiting, why is it listed here? Also good luck to you bold explorers taking the first steps into the unknown!
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>>54856793
>Who is the best p/y/rate
Tomas
>who is the best b/u/ccaneer
Anne
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>>54856793
It wasn't full when it was posted.
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>>54856807
Yeah, I'd give Tomas some warm milk, desu
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>>54856732
>it has Luci in it

Count yourself lucky you didn't get in, anon.
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>>54856826
Fastest app circus I ever done did see!

>>54856827
The catboi, right? I'm glad he changed his art, the only picture was shit.
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For a melee soldier, a solarian, a casting-focused mystic, or a casting-focused technomancer, is there any reason at all to prioritize Constitution over Dexterity?

Constitution provides extra Stamina Points in a game wherein characters are overflowing with Stamina Points and Hit Points. It also raises Fortitude, although Fortitude-based save-or-lose effects are rarer in the spell list.

Dexterity confers extra EAC, KAC, defense against combat maneuvers, and initiative. It raises Reflex, which even noncasters can target due to explosive weapons. It also affects various skills, attack bonuses for backup ranged weapons, and saving throw DCs for grenades as per (http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2ui71&page=2?Can-grenades-be-retrieved#75).

The only logic I can think of that can vindicate Constitution is "monster design prescribes that enemies deal less damage on a hit," but even then, Dexterity would provide more long-term survivability due to avoiding attacks and soaking up the misses with SP and HP.

What makes Constitution actually worthwhile for a melee soldier, a solarian, a casting-focused mystic, or a casting-focused technomancer compared to Dexterity?
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>>54856826
>Someone gets chosen minutes after mashing out a quick app
You got me good again! Fucking roll20 delete feature leaving a footprint makes the boozle even more humiliating.
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>>54856793
>>Bones and Bed Shackles
>Reviews WHEN

they were pm'd, I do believe.
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>>54856874
I'd say constitution is primarily a fallback; it's not something you want to neglect, because having a safety net for your inevitable fuckups is important, but it's also not nearly as big and important as it was before, especially since there's no class that keys off it; we don't exactly have a barbarian in Starfinder.
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>>54856906
Nope.
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>>54856722
What is your GM putting you up against that you're having to retreat half the time in COMBAT, AKA the place you should be most proficient?
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>>54856917
I got my PM.
A few people I've talked to also got their PM's.
If you haven't gotten yours, maybe you should PM the DM and request one.
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>>54856793
>Best p/y/rate
Unironically Vasad, you ain't fooling me with that "gynophobia" stuff.

>Best b/u/ccaneer
Rosa or Piper, two lesbian character that are surprisingly similar considering one of them is hopefully a joke character
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>>54856874
to play doubles advocate, is it necessary for consitution to be vital for every character? no one would question if charisma wasn't important to a particular class.
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>>54856936
>>54856917
Yeah, they eat that shit up, anyway. You should be PMing the GM about how to tie your character into the game regardless.
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>>54856960
Only one of those b/u/ccaneers has no character sheet.
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>>54856916
>>54856964

For something like a 1st-level human, half-elf, or half-orc melee soldier, I do not see a reason not to aim for Strength 18, Dexterity 14, Constitution 10, Intelligence 10, Wisdom 10, Charisma 10, pre-theme.

Would such a character have anything meaningful to gain by taking Dexterity 12 and Constitution 12 instead, or even Dexterity 10 and Constitution 14?
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Someone leak the damn dead suns pdf
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>>54857011
Like I said, Rosa is probably a joke character. Has anybody ever seen Borto app to a /pfg/ game before? I don't think I've ever seen him before so it's probably someone's sock puppet.
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>>54857061
Gimme a sec.
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>>54857033
On a ranged soldier? I doubt it. I'd put a +2 into con at level 5 and maybe pick up a stat item for it when I have some spare credits, but otherwise nah.

On a melee soldier I think it's a bit more important, since being front-and-center means you'll come under fire more, and no matter how good your defenses are a few will come through to hit you. Dexterity in general is also less important if you're going into melee a lot. However, I still wouldn't put con higher than 12.
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>>54857061
Go buy it yourself, poorfag.
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>>54857106

>since being front-and-center means you'll come under fire more, and no matter how good your defenses are a few will come through to hit you

The logic does not hold. "A few will come through to hit you," yes, but you generally have enough SP and HP to absorb such hits. Furthermore, a higher Dexterity modifier will always, *always* mean than an attack roll against you has less of a chance of hitting.

Or, in other words, a higher Dexterity modifier means even *fewer* attacks "will come through to hit you," no?
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>>54857151
What was changed?
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>>54856793
>Best p/y/rate
Vasad is a better character, but Tomas is sexier

>best b/u/ccaneer
Piper. Honorable mention to Rekina because yo I wanna breed that shark.
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>>54857181
All other apps aside Rekina's definitely has the best tits.
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>>54856969
How and why should you even do this? Like this always struck me as "I never read the prompt please tell me what I'm supposed to do again".
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>>54857162
Fewer yes; I'm saying that they'll happen at all. I'm not disagreeing with you, but you don't have the defenses of being able to duck behind cover or maybe lay a smoke grenade when you're in melee, and you don't have the option of getting them as easily. You WILL get hit, and it's prudent to make sure you can survive such a hit.

But, like I said, I wouldn't put a melee soldier/solarion's Constitution score above 12, and I'd generally only keep it at 10. I'd level it up at the designated stat increase levels (5/10/15/20) but that's mostly because you actually have the option to do so at those points, as you only have to abandon two stats, and the peripheral benefit of a wider safety net is important.
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>>54857199
>>54857181
Is there any word on how open her player is to lewd stuff in other games?
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>>54857217
When you apply for a job, what do you do? You call them, ask about the application, etc. Why? Because it shows them you're interested and serious and makes them think more of you.

So why wouldn't you do the same with an app for a game that you'll be making a commitment to for the forseeable future?
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I am reposting. Earlier, I had emerged from my first Starfinder session. We were an ysoki operative (ghost), a vesk melee soldier, an android technomancer, and a human mystic, all at 1st level. (No envoys or solarians.)

The session was a mini-adventure consisting of three combat encounters. The first fight was inexplicably difficult; our opponents were four 1st-level PCs. The GM had used a mix of First Contact monsters, math-converted Pathfinder monsters, and PCs-as-NPCs. The GM did not have much of a choice given the lack of official monsters.

Before each encounter was a series of skill-related challenges, which spanned a wide variety of skills. Memorable moments included hacking into a cyborg bear's computer, using a Token Spell to paint the party white in order to bypass color-scanning sensors, and cooking a meal so fine as to be toxic to space goblins (and then rigging two detonator-activated grenades to it).

I was playing the operative. The class exceeded all expectations. The operative is a juggernaut of a skill monkey that can do just about anything out of combat. The operative is no slouch in a fight thank to trick attacks. Our operative had the greatest kill and damage count in the party, even discounting their critical hits. The class sits comfortably in mid-to-high tier 3.

Unsurprisingly, given the abundance of ranged weapons, combats that start at long distances significantly screw over melee-focused characters. Low-level spellcasters suffer too, as their spells tend to be close-ranged. My azimuth-laser-pistol-toting operative was exploiting a range increment of 80 feet against NPC operatives foolishly wielding tactical semiautomatic pistols with a mere 30 feet for a range increment. Predictable.

The mechanics were not particularly inspired, but they vaguely accomplished what they set out to do: run generic Pathfinder adventures, except in space. It was serviceable, and it helped that 1st level in Starfinder is not quite a rusty dagger shanktown.
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>>54857245
I wish I knew because I want to gangbang that sharkgirl.
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>>54856935
Stuff with high as fuck AC, to hit and damage (we're 6th level and the average seems to be 30 damage per hit per monster) with lots of save vs conditions aditions on attacks. Meanwhile flying alchemist and flying oracle are targeting touch AC which seems to be fucking low or saves which are also low
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>>54857267
She wasn't always a sharkgirl, you know. Could just gangbang an extremely horny island girl.
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>>54857253

You don't call them and ask, though. That's being pushy, and employers don't appreciate pushy employees anymore. You just submit the application online and pray; I've been flat told that I was no longer being considered for positions after I called up to check on the status of it, solely because I called up to check on the status of it. It showed too much initiative for the modern workforce.
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>>54857263
You can always play Shadowrun if you want more detailed rules
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>tfw the thread never likes my apps and besides me self-shilling them, they never get any mentions
RIP ;_;
Feels good that I get into games regardless though.
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How does one occultist well?
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>>54857263

The only reasons why I had opted to play an ysoki in this game in were:

• It was a 1st-level game, and infrared sensors for darkvision were beyond my price range.
• I was using a wrist-mounted computer for social skills anyway.

I would have played a halfling otherwise. Halflings and ysoki both have +2 Stealth, thus making them ideal for "one true build" operatives (ghost), if the GM is running operatives as-printed.

There is a disclaimer here: even after I had shown the GM the statements from Mark Seifter concerning the errors in the operative as printed, the GM opted to run the operative RAW, since what is printed in the book is what is printed in the book.

I am confident that the operative (ghost) would be significantly less potent if the GM takes Mark Seifter's word and removes the +4 to the ghost's trick attacks; that would mean denying the "one true operative build" that is a halfling or an ysoki operative (ghost) with a pistol, and encouraging more variety in operative builds.

I would also like to add that our vesk soldier was extremely mediocre during the session. In combat, they were shabby simply due to low d20 rolls; I imagine that their Blitz tactical pike build would have proven quite impressive otherwise.

Outside of combat, the vesk's -2 Intelligence, a middling skill list, and 4 base skill points per level lend nowhere near satisfactory a noncombat toolset. All classes should have solid combat options and noncombat options, if you ask me.

As for the PCs-as-NPCs, the GM, in fairness, had written the subsequent encounters with actual monster guidelines in mind. I am not sure why they had opted for PC-built enemies in the first encounter. It was a tough fight made easy only by timely critical hits from our side.

>>54857235

Constitution provides only a marginal increase to SP, when a character's durability is both their SP and HP. I am skeptical of investing in Constitution above 10 at 1st-level.
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>>54857297
That's all kinds of fucked up.
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>>54857297
Well, that's not the case here. Dominions picks were all about speaking to the GMs, and multiple GMs have said it plays a role in picks, so I suggest you do it. You don't HAVE to, but it may increase your chances of getting chosen.
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>>54857297

That's stupid, they're stupid, and I hope their stupid company fails.
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>>54857199
I never understood how people could pick character art with ugly proportions or mangled tits and decide, "this is what I want to use as a representation of this application. This is a fine art, one that people will admire and desire."

Like haha wow dude she's got them silly hentai honkers, shake the Etch-and-Sketch and try again.
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>>54857315
Literally who cares? Why would you even want them to talk about your apps? You apply to get in, not to be a meme.
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>>54857245
>>54857267
Well, I know they're playing the shortstack kobold in Dragons1, and that's a lewdgame. But on the other hand, I've also realized that most people who apply to lewdgames are just teases. Especially those who apply with oversexualized characters. The more provocative the app, the more vehemently the character will refuse to get themselves involved in lewd situations.
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>>54857360
All the app shitposting looks fun, but never being mentioned in it feels odd.
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>>54857297
What kinda limp-wristed, blue-haired Problem Glasses company were you applying to?
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>>54857335
is the kinekist icon autistic or just a child
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>>54857382
Child.
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>>54857382
Yes
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>>54857331
Dominion DM literally said he picked a fucking Time Dragon despite no interaction with the premise at all because he was one of the only 5 people who PM'ed him.
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>>54857375
I guess. Just seems stupid to me, but to each their own.
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>>54857347
Tits are tits my man.

>>54857367
I think they applied with a futa semi-ghost in another lewd game.
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>>54857335
Where did this image come from, because I love it.
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>>54857382
Probably both. Nobody reacts like that after seeing a skull floating in doom jelly
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>>54857347
Just because nobody talks about your flat bitch doesn't mean you should hate on someone else for wanting to look sexy.
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>>54857273
Flying Alchemist I can understand, but how is the Oracle flying? I don't remember Fly being in the Cleric spells list.
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>>54857414
being sexy is so common that you probably blend in too much
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>>54857181
Is maximumsleep down for PMs? Because oh bby
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>>54857478
Race
Though she's lunar oracle so I bet she could either turn into something that flies or have a companion that flies
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I want to fuck Fat Berry.
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>>54857506
If S&S turns out to be a bamboozle I'd honestly consider PMing half of the applicants and making an ERP group, because holy moly.
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>>54857517
If you've gotten to level 6 and your DM hasn't adjusted his style to accommodate things like flying PCs and is instead just sending out things that require you to hit 15+ on your die, you need to have a chat with him on proper encounter rates and building for your party as opposed to just building for what he wants to see.
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>>54857506
That asshole is a thirstier motherfucker than Spooky.
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>>54857506
There's only one way to find out!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0pM5dm--yQ
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>>54857547

Which half?
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>>54857517
I know that feel, I was in a group similar to that (thre fliers then me) and even though the GM introduced flying enemies the fact that I was build for melee,I made the character with the GM before meeting the group and trusted him on the descriptions and roles of other players, he forgot to mention they all fly and mostly engage combat like that, so I ended just doing nothing as everything happened over me, and when it doesn't I was literally the only one taking damage so I ended unconscious half the time
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>>54857601
Bro.

Ranged.

Even if you're not "the best" at it you can still do it and contribute.
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>>54857552
Maximumsleep is an asshole?!
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>>54857367
Really? I get frisky in PMs all the time. I thought it was expected and normal.
Have you trash been lying to me?
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>>54857674
You're a slut, Jim.
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>>54857654
>12 Dex
>Access to shitty ranged weapons
>No precise strike, no point blank shot, no rapid shot, etc
Dude, I'd be hitting like with a +2/-3 after all the penalties and dealing 1d6+4 if lucky
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>>54857674
>>54857687
>pms

PMs over what?
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>>54857701
Reroll a Zen Archer, or some kind of flybitch.
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>>54857661
He posts on 4chan, so yes.
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BEEP BOOP I'M 2HU

THIS IS ILLOGICAL TO MY PROGRAMMING. BEEP BOOP. MORE TENDIES, MY MOTHER. ALLOW ME TO CONSUME THEM.
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>>54857725
I already left that game after seing that things weren't going to change
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>>54857737
That sounds truly dreadful.
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>>54857748
Oh, okay. Cool.
>>54857743
Sick impression. Do Nixon next?
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>>54857737
Which half would be fun to fuck?
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So intrigue game is announced, can someone give me a proper rundown of the characters?
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>>54857701
No... access? What, could you not BUY a MW composite bow with your Str level?

Regardless, every time you hit one of your enemies (unless it was magical flight) you're making them roll to avoid falling out of the sky from the damage taken, even if they're really good at it more chances for the enemy to fail is better than just sitting there picking your nose.
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>>54857814
I would, but I didn't get in, so... gimme your lunch money and I might, dweeb.
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>>54857743
2hu's parents are dead. His like philipino batman except instead of using his time and inheritance to learn martial arts and fight crime he commissions art of fey catboys.
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>>54857814
>Orc
>dad
>some gril
>some other, shadier gril
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>>54857844
I mean, an autist has gotta have someone make his tendies, and he damn well can't do it himself.
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>>54857674
What's the angle of your Discord dangle, anon-kun? I want to get frisky with you!
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>>54857815
No proficiency

And in the level we were monsters had a CA of 21 on average, I repeat, on ranged I hit like with a +2/-3, I'd be htting shit. I'd be wasting arrows and waiting for nat20s
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>>54857878
Tuvarkz#9740
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>>54857903
PMing now!
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>>54857903
You're not Tuvarkz! He doesn't post like that!
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>>54857866
>inheritance
Dude's loaded apparently.
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>>54857710
Hypothetical non-canon stuff, semi-canon/canon stuff, crossovers, emerging narrative RP between otherwise disparate one-shots, all kinds of fun stuff. At any given time I'm formulating a response to at least one PM.
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>>54857743
I kinda want some chicken now, desu
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>>54857814
>Mycroft Cutting, LE Half-Orc Investigator from Augustana. Affiliated with the White Goose trade company, it is on their behalf he has been sent to Michsbridge - for reasons he is only now starting to realize the truth of.

>Embry Winespeckle, NG Human Witch from Michsbridge. Never had she suspected the quiet, friendly Ranger Lenart to have been hiding such secrets, but she's more than happy to help him out in his time of need.

>Delnora Algata, NE Elf Investigator/Warlock Vigilante. A scammer and sneak-thief who works as a courier to get her hands on juicy information, she has in fact been tracking Elvargian's communications to his brother Abaric for a long time - and now, has stolen the documents intended for the Karvane Company representative meant to be sent to Michsbridge, impersonating them and going in their stead.

>Miri "Dale", LE Aasimar(Halfling) Magus from Ostenso. A slave born into the service of House Henderthane, she has been raised as the perfect secret agent by her masters - after all, nobody would expect a slip to willingly betray their own kind and work for a Chelish noble house - and now, she has been sent by Belphian Henderthane himself to unravel the mysteries of House Karvane's turmoil.

>Godefroy Lesarge-Masson, LG Human UCavalier from Laekastel. Previously a mere retainer for House Lesarge, he ended up remarrying into the house after a somewhat scandalous tryst with the Patriarch's daughter, Baroness Elnynaeve - and now, facing threats to the lives of both himself and his children, presumably from the scheming hands of his loving wife's family, he has engineered a way to get himself and his sons out of harms way for a while.
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>>54857710
>He hasn't engaged in at least one hypothetical sexual encounter with every character in every /pfg/ campaign they're in
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>>54857751
An ERP group sounds like it could be fun.
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>>54858019
That's because I'm not in any /pfg/ campaigns, anon.
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>>54858019
Go canon or go home.
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>>54857882
Okay, what exactly were you? Rogues, admittedly, don't get longbows, but they do get shortbows, Slayers, Hunters, Swashbucklers, Samurai, Barbarians, Cavaliers, and Vigilantes just straight up get all Simple and Martial weapons, and Fighters can be literally proficient with anything.

Unless you were a Brawler or Ninja I don't see how this happened.
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>>54858019
wanking alone eh?
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>>54858033
>PbP ERP
>PbP anything
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>>54857815
>DC 10 to not fall after being attacked
>Most mosters above CR laughable have already Fly +9
Not him but, they won't fall, ever
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>>54857743
What is 2hu ERP like?
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>>54858059
Or monk
Or whatever you mentioned with certain archetypes
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>>54858099
PM them to find out instead of obsessing over him here.
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Still no Dead Suns?
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>>54858006
Now who can we expect to be shipped with who?
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>>54858166
I'll post it in a sec.
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>>54858006
Mycroft has this in his personality:
>To him halflings can be decent folk, slips cannot.
>Miri is a literal, unironic slip, not even just a halfling
Sounds like fun.
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>>54857878
What fun characters do you like to use for frisky stories?
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>>54858250
Are we sharing Discords?
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>>54858006
>two good characters, three evil ones
I'm not one to care about games I'm not playing in, but I kind of want to see how hard this crashes and burns.
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>>54858258
Do you want to?
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>>54857878
What's yours?
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>>54858287
I might.

>>54858299
Yeah, this.
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>>54858270
LE is a fairly party friendly alignment.
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>>54858258
I'd like to know what I'm ordering first! I'm the kind of person who reads the menu, Anon.
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>>54858314
Then share. It might lead to something fun.
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>>54858333
NE and LG do not mix well.
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Why don't you guys just ERP directly in the thread?
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>>54858270
Blingmaker has more NE and it's doing fine
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>>54858360
I start fucking you.
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>>54858333
Yeah only if you fight forces of chaos
Otherwise nah
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>>54858341
That makes two of us.

>>54858354
Share 'em.
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>>54858360
I put on my robe and wizard hat
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>>54855785
>>54855800
>>54855805
Nvm, GM has sent a mail tell us he changed mind and allows only elite array, so Zen Archer is impossible, might skip this game or go Ragebred Barbarian his ass
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>>54858391
What is this caster supremacy bullshit?
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>>54858407
>GM has sent a mail tell us he changed mind and allows only elite array

dump his ass
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>>54858360
>Anon begins caressing Anon's chest as Anon reaches down to unbuckle Anon's trousers. "You can't hide it, not from me. I know what you want..."
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>>54858087
Did they change this or something? I could have sworn the DC to not fall was 10+ something having to do with how much damage you've taken, like concentration checks for spells.
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>>54858455
I do some low impact adventuring, slaying rats of unusual size and other moderately threatening verminous monsters until I have enough gold to buy a garden. I continue doing this until I have purchased about five gardens.
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>>54858364
>it's doing fine

Isn't that the game with the necromancy troubles and people openly gloating how they'll corrupt the two good characters?
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>>54853589

Now your ship floats in the atmosphere like a rubber ducky and can't ever land, also, its individual pieces float off into the stratosphere like balloons when you try to build/repair them.
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>>54858557
Yes, the game where half the group won't shut up about their desires to assassinate the other half. The game with a literal nazi in its group.
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>>54858557
Those weren't even players, they were shitposters.
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>>54858597
Proof on both of these claims? That's some serious shit if true
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>>54853608
>>54853649

It means that that ship is a giant zeppelin with such small density as to be unable to enter atmosphere, be susceptible to a stiff wind, and be impossible to manufacture as the material's own bouyancy would make it constantly wobble as it tries to float up to the ceiling.
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>>54858606
Shitposters with a point, parties with a Good minority will rarely see that minority survive as Good for long, especially in a campaign like Kingmaker where an Evil party member might start enslaving a group of people or engage in debauchery.
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>>54858632
Every time Blingmaker comes up, one of the evil characters' players shows up to gloat about corrupting Slow's knight.

And Franze is blatantly that one anime nazi girl (pic related).
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What kind of places could make for interesting heists?
>Bank job
>Casino robbery
>Some kind of Hotel break in
>Obligatory prison break
>Stealing some stuff from a muesem

Considering running a criminal game where the group has to pull off increasingly more dangerous/crazy jobs.
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>>54858674
In order of interest.

Casino Robbery = Bank Job > Prison Break > Museum Heist > Hotel Break
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>>54853930

But those believes thought that the systems were part of an interworking whole, real life physics are entirely incompatible with the idea that the world is built from the four classical greek elements.
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>>54858664
Anon, you can't believe shitposters, damn. People wouldn't play with someone they thought was actively undermining them.

Besides, it is known that Good Dick turns Bad Girks around. That's the oldest one in the book.
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>>54858674
>Chelaxian Bank job with security devils and Tiefling watchmen
>Mission Impossible style casino robbery in Absalom
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>>54858647
Why can't your hypothetical Good people just make their views clear and argue their position?
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>>54858664
>one of the evil characters' players shows up to gloat about corrupting Slow's knight.

Nah, I think that's just a shitposter, if Slow or Disk (I think he's playing the other Good character?) Thought they were getting fucked over they would bring it up, if not quit.
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>>54858724
Because Good is often argued from a belief in morality, ethics and virtuous conduct, things Neutral/Evil characters would neither agree with or believe in? Being Good is a lot of work without a lot of reward.
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>>54858728
This. They're adults. They'd take off if people were being shitters.
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>>54858703
>People wouldn't play with someone they thought was actively undermining them
You'd be surprised. Admittedly, it happens mostly in meatspace groups where people haven't heard of or aren't willing to try Roll20, but there's a ton of people who will tolerate a blatant That Guy just to keep a semblance of harmony in their group.

I've done it myself, even when it was clear that the player in question was trying to find ways to betray, sabotage, and corrupt our goals. But he was an old friend of the GM and the other players, and circlejerked with them about politics, so he got given a free pass by everyone but me until he finally just tried to torch the campaign and run.
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>>54858755
You mean besides literal magical superpowers and a bodacious afterlife, right?
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>>54858755
I'd argue being Evil actually takes more work, because you're putting yourself in a position where you have to constantly live in fear of others, fear that they'll betray and abuse you just like you do to them. Nonevil alignments just feel better, in terms of mental health.
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>>54858755
>>54858833
Good can rely on others but has less power overall because they share it
Evil has to work alone but tends to have more power because they hog it all
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Is Good cute?
Is Evil sexy?
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>>54858884
Not inherently.
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>>54853555
>Sci-Fi writers have no sense of scale.
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>>54855247
Space horror. The party is held prisoner, awaiting trial, on a ship that breaks down and is set adrift while spanning the planes, forming a sort of bridge between them. The crew goes full event horizon, and the party has to find a way to escape. Find an ejection pod, and you've left the bridge intact. Restart the ship, and you need to contend with the possibility of evil escaping.
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>>54858884
Of course Evil is sexy
Why do you think lust is a sin
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>>54858884
Not really. Good is merely more comfortable showing vulnerability to others as a way of building trust and friendship, while Evil has to rely on the implied promise of carnal pleasures to get people to do what it wants.
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Anyone cooking up a game right now?
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>>54858949
I'm considering it. What would you like to see?
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>>54858949
Besides the three recruiting ones, you mean?
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>>54858964
ERP-heavy Jade Regent, level 11 gestalt 30PB mythic with my homebrew race.
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>>54855735
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NW98K-_vTEnS5ELs6UEZgu2WyMX0-hwrfEoMKGdUXlE/edit?usp=drivesdk
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>>54859000
I'd unironically like a lewd Jade Regent campaign.
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>>54859048
you missed the boat for that, senpai
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>>54859048
Here we go again...
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>>54858949
What about a game about cooking?
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>>54859048
Please no, the last time I suggested a lewd AP as a joke somebody made Carnal Crown.
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>>54859133
Doesn't count, it was a bamboozle.
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>>54859133
What's wrong with lewd APs?
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>>54858798
>magical superpowers
That you can get being evil or obtain through methods utterly independent of morality.
>bodacious afterlife
"You" and your ego effectively stop existing when you perish in pathfinder. All the afterlife is basically "the place where your blank slate soul stuff gets dumped when you croak".
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>>54859157
I love how evil players will try to dredge up misremembered setting info both IC and OOC, but only when it suits their needs at the time.
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>>54859143
Nothing inherently wrong, just not something that gets my gameboner diamonds.
>>54859140
And if somebody makes another, it'll probably be a bambiggly.
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>>54859157
You make a persuasive argument, Anon. We should have a cannibalistic orgy together sometime, my treat.
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>>54859143
Everything. Lewd is no substance bullshit and stacking an AP on it doesn't do the AP or the supposed eroticism any favors.

I'm just fucking sick of lewdshit being paraded around. I just want someone to present a campaign that's interesting beyond how it gives opportunities for PC's to typefuck each other.
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>>54859195
Ensoulment was interesting. Did you apply?
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>>54859195
Mint Rebels isn't lewd and is open to applicants.
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>>54859209
https://pastebin.com/RS9g08i7
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>>54859195
It's not like any of the lewd games thus far have required you to typefuck anyone.
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>>54859209
>Ensoulment was interesting
It wasn't. I didn't.
>>54859214
I already play on Saturdays. The twist on the AP is interesting, but I don't really like it.
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>>54859214
>not lewd
>reasonable powerlevel
>work put in to improve the AP's failings
Absolutely pigdisgusting
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>>54859235
That's blatently false considering PLD exists, and even if it wasn't you're a fool if you think DM's don't pick characters at least in part because of how ERP friendly they seem.
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>>54859237
Game might be moved from saturday to either friday or sunday, depending on what players I get.
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>>54858833
>Nonevil alignments just feel better, in terms of mental health.

Of course Evil eats itself, but let's be frank here and recognize that a tabletop campaign with people roleplaying an evil character will be a little more cunning about their evil than if they were actually the evil character themselves. I can't count the number of times I've seen a group of disparate evil bastards unite either OOC or IC to destroy the Goodly characters, or at least corrupt them.
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>>54859313
In all my games alliances seem to cross alignment lines based on context
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>>54859313
Oh, really? And how did those campaigns end? They just all said "Okay, I'm evil now and I'll be a good little minion"? They sighed and went "Oh no, I guess I'll just reroll like a good little cuck and keep my mouth shut"?

No, of course they didn't. When you fuck with someone else's character just because you're too much of an asshole to develop your own, that spells the end of the campaign, likely the end of a friendship as well. You're going out of your way to ruin a game and be a dick just so you can write more fucking NUMBERS on your sheet.
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>>54858964
Star Port Roanapur. Lewd only to the extent that I can play a cute anime girl.
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>>54859195
This criticism always falls flat in light of the crown jewel of smut games being a perfectly substantive game beyond the smut
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>>54859446
Even if that were true, its smutness probably detracts from the thing overall. It would probably be better chaste.
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>>54859470
What game would you consider "lewd?" Please give an example besides PLD.
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>>54859195
I agree with you so hard on this. I just want to play a game where the PC's primary motivations don't revolve around getting the next lay.

I mean come on, I look back at my party and if I honestly asked them why we're doing the quest I bet half these fucks won't have any answer other than "I want sum fuck".

Sure, exceptions are everywhere but you know the kind of player if you've been here for any amount of time. I've seen enough shit bags that are all but AFK unless its time to word fuck and only speak in their attempt to word fuck.
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>>54859494
Hell's Vengeance, Both Iterations of Dragons, every iteration of WotR offered here thus far(one ha Ryuancy right in the title), and Overlewd which straight up has lewd in the title.
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>>54859494
Not that Anon, but in this fallen age, all is lewd.
Rise of the Lewd Regent
Lewdmaker
Enlewdment
Broodie's western lewd game

Purity is dead
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>>54859470
It actually reinforces the themes quite well
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>>54859643
Elaborate
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>>54859603
>>54859589
Broodie's western game isn't lewd. Romance of the Righteous Kingdoms is nobility/Power Word and not lewd.
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>>54859669
>fallen dying world plagued by gods and monsters
>party is fighting desperately against it
>any slip up has them ravaged and bred to birth more monsters
>But they still triumph and are pushing back the night
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>>54859569

Games like that exist, so I am not sure what's your point here. Did you apply to them?
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>>54859778
Please stop.
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>>54859412
I'd read that
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>>54859778
>>54859470
>>54859446
PLD players/Vult fuck off. It has been explained numerous times why having some semblance of a plot doesn't suddenly make your shit anything more than pure fucking smut.
>>54859778
You know what this describes as well?

Corruption of Champions. That is legit the most basic bitch "girls fuck monsters" porn excuse out there.
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>>54859778
>>54859834
He makes a point. A lot of old epics have sexual themes.
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>>54859874
a lot of old epics didn't have "what if we had a smut story with PLOT" as the pitch
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Hello /pfg/, I want to get a Starfinder game going and I'd like 1 or 2 players to round up my group. Text only over r20 to be played on Sundays at 1pm (GTM -4). I want the game to be about space exploration without too much pressure from some impending doom. I would also like to keep the game PG 13, or at least avoid full blown erp and all that entails. Here's the pitch if you guys are interested:

"500~ years after humans first made contact with alien life, they have manage to integrate to the interplanetary community. All kinds of aliens are now a common sight on the average citizen's everyday life. Now an old Dreadnought Class Warship, a remnant from The Colony Wars (tm) has been re-purposed as a high luxury Cruiser for the wealthy and famous to travel the outer rims of the known universe in style.
(you) have surprisingly earned a ticket for it's maiden voyage. Will you take the chance of a lifetime and embark on a trip that will surely change your life?"

I set up a discord channel to talk over any possible details with people that are interested, feel free to inquire further inside: https://discord.gg/bMm2FJ
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>>54859683
>Romance of the Righteous Kingdoms
What?
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>>54859780
It would make sense if the games premise was fucking. But if its an AP then you would assume that the group's primary motivation was still the quest with getting laid a close second.
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>>54859874
Here's the thing, they were THEMES. Not the focus. It's the difference between Fallout and Sengoku Rance.
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>PLD mentioning inevitably makes the thread devolve into Vult et al v. /pfg/
I hate this shit. PLD being rapebait is nowhere near as bad as it CONSTANTLY shitting up the thread at the near mention. And I 100% blame Vult and co. for taking the bait every time and trying to defend their game. If you're listening, just let this shit fucking lie. Your honor isn't sullied by the thread shittalking it, we shittalk everything.

Quit thinking your game is special.
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>>54859780
>Games like that exist
No they don't.
>>54859967
No one was even shitting on PLD specifically until someone tried to prop it up as being some kind of exception when it comes to lewdgames.

I wouldn't shit on it if the players didn't act like they were engaging in high fucking society and culture when they're playing a game where dragon spit got up someone's ass. I have at least 20 gigs of chicks getting nailed by monsters but I don't act pretentious about it.
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>>54859998
Look, I'm not telling people they can't shit on it. I don't care about the game itself. It's just fucking retarded that it always ends up with the PLD defense force showing up to counter-argue and then the false-flags all around. It's fucking exhausting.
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>>54859862
Too bad Corruption of Champions and especially its successor has waaaay too many futas stuffed in there.
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>>54859998
Are you retarded or jsut deliberately obtuse? Are you saying there are no non-smut games anywhere?
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>>54859998
>No one was even shitting on PLD specifically until someone tried to prop it up as being some kind of exception when it comes to lewdgames.
This. The thread has long gotten bored of shitposting PLD, it's stale material. If PLD would leave alone there wouldn't be anything for people to complain about about, but there're always people coming in here talking it up and selling it on things that should only be known by the players and who they share with like it's common knowledge.

I don't care about the game content but it's obnoxious as fuck. Argentum or Seagle build worlds and run games but neither of them act like they're some kind of authority.
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>>54860080
Dickgirls are a patrician fetish though.
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>>54858964
I want to see something like an urban campaign, with the stakes being a bit lower, but hitting closer to home. Maybe like a noir fantasy city with detectives.
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>>54860111
>people
Yeah, it's just Vult, homie.
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>>54860142
And sometimes his players, but they're usually just being shit-disturbers. Vult's the only one who drinks his own kool-aid.
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>>54860071
That's what happens when you succumb to the furry mafia.
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>REEE LEWD GAMES ARE ALL [X]
>PLD isn't, and it's The Lewd Game
>REEEEE PLD
You fuckers are too easy to bait.
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>>54860123
Sure, if you're a homosexual
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>>54860316
Lewd games are a cancer upon this general and upon the hobby.

I don't want to hear about your magical realm.

Keep it in your pants.

Get the fuck out of my game.
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>>54859920
Tell us about the characters you've already got!
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>>54860344
Bisexual.
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>>54860123
>>54860296

I beat it to a ton of depraved shit but dickgirls are one of the very few fetishes that elude me.
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>>54860443
Dickgirls are for when you need a penis for any reason, whether that's for self-inserting, inserting into self, or just a fascination with the imagery behind a penis, but you also want the female form because male bodies are gross.

Not actually a fetish of mine though.
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>>54860494
>Not liking the male figure

What kind of person doesn't enjoy a well-figured hunk?
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>>54860443
I'm pretty vanilla but dickgirls kill me in a good way.
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>>54860443
Dickgirls turn me off, because it's always the same bullshit porn personality attached to them. I had to see enough of that fuckery back on F-list, I don't need it in my fucking Pathfinder.
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>>54860592
What, you're not a fan of BITCHBREAKERS?
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>>54853212
Does anyone in here know pathfinder optimzation? I'm trying to select between a wizard/cleric and a wizard/oracle for my mystic theurge build. My GM has disabled earliest entry at level 4 but has allowed slightly later entry at level 5 since late entry at level 7 isn't fantastic. I'm an aasimar, so I'm not going to land the Samsaran racial traits, but my stats are already pretty good.
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>>54860592
>>54860638
>not playing a submissive dgirl
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>>54860657
Is a Calistrian Drow Aasimar. Since, uh, Calistria has Azata servitors.
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>>54860667
What's the fucking point? No self-respecting man is going to pick a meek dick-girl over a real woman
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>>54860354
I already got the people I wanted so thank you all for showing interest. Characters are still being made so I'll share more next week.
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>>54860592
>>54860638
I still don't get this meme personality. It's shitty in porn and it's doubly shit if you're trying to RP with another person.
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>>54860756
Awawawa, I didn't know the decision process was that fast! Have fun, you magnificent man you.
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New thread:

>>54860835
>>54860835
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>>54860715
Well yes, but dickgirls never go for men. They're more macho amd domineering than male characters and just pretend to be otherwise until they can get you alone. At best, you've got a butch man-hating lesbian with a built-in strap-on.




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