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How in your setting would you deploy various non humans(mythological creatures/monstergirls or whatever have you) in your armies, what roles and strategies.
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Fairies get used for reconnaissance and sabotage. Their small size and propensity for magic allow them to sneak behind enemy lines, report troop locations to headquarters, and then cause havoc. Also they make cute companions for our soldiers, boosting morale.
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>>55359469
Much like in warhammer fantasy, your ogres and similarly sized humanoids would be in charge of carrying some seriously heavy guns
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Necromancers form a key part of the military, making sure that every soldier who dies will serve his country once more as a walking corpse. Depending on the intelligence of the undead in the setting, these necromancers will either spend all their time resurrecting the dead and forming them up into their own squads where undead officers command undead enlisted, or they will be leading the undead themselves in order to make sure they can accomplish the task at hand.
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>>55359469
In my current collaborative project, one of the players basically brought Charr to the table. While several human nations had arquebuses and cannon, this player just went nuts with the tech. His people were much larger than normal humans so a lot of them used personal mortars, flamethrowers, rockets, and bronze abus guns. His people were so resistant to magic that they could not cast magic (except a few who were possessed by outsiders). His general strategy was to sit back and throw as many projectiles at the enemy as possible from behind a line of traps and troops with great weapons and pikes.
By shell, shot, and pike, they became the most powerful army in the west. Too bad everyone tended to gang up on them.
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Magic would have a huge influence upon military matters. With the idea that someone can shoot flames or lighting from their hands comes the idea that maybe operatives that strongly believe in The Cause can be sent on one way assassination and demolition missions. Akin to a modern day suicide bomber. For something crazy like kancolle, the idea that a single soldier could wield the weapons of a battleship and posses the Armour of one makes them the ultimate tank hunter and pillbox buster. And megumeme is just op
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Minotaurs often found good work in battlefield support, putting their strong muscles to work digging trenches and erecting barricades to protect armies. They also made good loaders for field guns, easily hefting shells that would take cranes otherwise.

In front-line combat, they wore especially heavy armor that protected them from most small arms, and wielded heavy weapons to suppress and punch through enemy hardpoints.

It was a poor use of their abilities, though - the steel plates couldn't cover every square inch, and shrapnel could easily find the gaps, when the concussion of a shell blast didn't ignore it entirely. What's worse, due to their size, they couldn't make good use of cover, and were slower than humans when wearing all that armor; easy prey for mortars and field guns.

Sadly, many generals made the mistake of thinking the biggest, most warrior-like soldiers they had should be right in the thick of it, and sent their minotaur auxiliaries into meat-grinder battles where a few dozen sappers could do the same job.

Casualties among Mintoaur auxiliary companies allocated to combat duties was near-total. Not a single one retained combat effectiveness across an entire battle.

-From 'The Great War: The Fire That Burned All Races', by Luthandriel Eradon, c.1933
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>And megumeme is just op
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In one of the campaigns that me and my players are collaboratively running, we've got what is essentially the beginning of the Industrial Revolution mixed with various races from fantasy(the typical DnD races, plus some more). Due to the rise of technology, magic is slightly phased out. Why train a mage for years when you can give a man a gun and train him for a month? Thus, infantry make the bulk of the war's front.

However, that's not to say magic is useless. It is in fact, an incredibly powerful force. Magi and Sorcerers are used like living artillery, and their creations(golems, demons, etc.) are handy shock troops. Divine magic is slightly less common nowadays, but only because arcane magic and firearms are easy enough to work with.

Dragons are a rarity nowadays, but they're pretty damn amazing since they can tear up entire armies on their own. With the rise of technology and magic however, their scales aren't as "impenetrable" as before. They're mostly used to sow disarray in enemy ranks, finish off a fleeing army, or set up surprise attacks. Pretty handy, since you could move a disguised dragon pretty close(as they can switch to humanoid form) before unleashing their full force.

With the rise of magic, Necromancy has become frowned upon. However, that does not stop some of the more unscrupulous contenders from utilizing them. It's an army that doesn't need to eat, drink, sleep, or rest. Perfect for hounding enemies on long campaigns. Their diminished intelligence leaves something to be desired, though.

"Big" races such as giants, dragonborn, minotaurs, or goliaths are excellent shock troops. Give them tools and training to attack at close range, and they'll decimate regular infantry.

The use of magical cavalry is pretty important in wars. Griffins, wyverns, hippogriffs, dragonhawks, etc are used to harass enemies from long distance, or to bypass fortifications.
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>>55361536
>The Great Skellington War, 1914-1918
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>>55362049
>trench wars fought by two necromancers and their legions of undead
A WWI style setting could be neat because that was the war that made people question the indiscriminate use of powerful technologies, where everyone decides that they went too far and to draw a line, and it's easy to find magical equivalents like Necromancers
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>>55361536
>tfw the main reason people don't consider undead armies a viable option is the preconceived notion that a corpse is either sacred or that animating one is objectively an evil thing to do
I feel like it would almost make small-scale weaponry obsolete on the battlefield if the body can be sent back out with little damage other than a few bullet holes.
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>>55359469
Undead rule the battlefield even more than they did before!
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I actually think the weapons tech around the franco-prussian war would be most ideal, or a world whos tech is staganated (weapons wise) no later than 1886 pre smokeless, you have just enough tech to prevent anything species wise from being OP while they can still actively participate.Plus unis from that time still had style and a cataclysmic war where you are limited to black powder and magic could yield some interesting stuff.
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>>55362689
>airdropped halfling clerics send your entire undead army stampeding back through your trench
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The problem with undead is the same problem with using conscripts, they rout pretty easily if this is a world where necromancers can be raised en masse. Not like holy water and clerics are hard to get.

Warforged, though.
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>>55362740
>airdropped halfling clerics
seems funny until you realize russia has paratrooper priests and even mini airdropable chapels with little onion domes on them, so, you know, undead army got tou down, drop a mini cathedral on em
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>>55362689
till someone blows up the calcium mines
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>>55362773
or bound demons. Unlike undeadwho would be walking gun turrets demons got sickass hell magic. Give them a gun and they'll kill all the necromancers.

And golems or constructs out of steel would basically be tanks.
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The important thing about the undead in such a setting is that they cost almost nothing to create except dead soldiers and a couple necromancers, so while no army is going to rely primarily on the undead given their weaknesses, almost every army is going to have some undead in it, and this amount will only increase as the war drags on and casualties grow larger.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMaxrryH0es
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yeah but you'd need to pull corpse recovery, hard to do when being shelled
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>>55363980
Also broken bones and flesh don't heal.
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>>55361536
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>>55363567
I'd imagine then that flamethrowers as a weapon would be considered fair game, to stop corpses from coming back.
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>>55364067
Or clerics, going around blessing the dead. Making them unraisable.
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>>55359469
I'd imagine long living fantasy races would find long warfare very difficult. If I remember right, in D&D orcs become mature at age 14 but therefore die earlier. However elves need 50 years to become mature. I imagine that Orcs reproduce faster and elves slower since it seems their populations aren't going extinct or exploding. But in this age, where any stray bullet can kill you, having your 50 year old soldiers die would be a terrible loss to your country, since you know you are going to have to wait years for your population to recover. Where an orc population would be back up to speed in no time and ready for another war.
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>>55364117
>Where an orc population would be back up to speed in no time and ready for another war.
until someone invents the gatling gun
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>>55364137
Still, a loss of a 100 elves is more devastating than a 100 orcs.
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>>55364117
The elves have an unnatural aiming ability and even more terrifying ability to hide in forests and shrubbery.

They're the perfect guerilla soldiers.
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>>55359469
Snipers would be more widely deployed to counter wizards. Your wizard may be able to cast a fireball to destroy a platoon, but a single bullet can stop him.
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and thats why you deploy elves as sharpshooter, cooks, medics/etc, not first over the top infantry, and even orks are gonna feel the hurt if they are running into things like pic related
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>>55364171
Would halflings or dwarves make the best, optimal artillery crew or what?
And what about humans, where does endurance and ability to adapt come in?
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>Would halflings or dwarves make the best, optimal artillery crew or what?
i see them as optimal tunnelers, sappers, and trench raiders, i see minotaur as optimal artillery crews or manning gatlings, gardners, biras and the like, more defense oriented
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>>55364233
I mean, how. Minotaurs are dumb, smelly and animalistic. They'd be only good guards and maneuvering trough trenches. Not even that since they're more likely go charging off at the nearest thing that looks hostile, into a trap.

At least dwarves are small and have technical knowhow and halflings got small, nimble, but strong arms and hands. Perfect artillery and heavy machinery handling.
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I can't imagine centaurs being very useful if it's at least industrial level tech. They are large targets unlike other large large races can't carry heavier weapons. They however would be good for scouting and transport.
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>>55364266
>dwarves are small
which is an issue as this limits them to things like field guns and short range mortars, and in some cases you need guns that can drop a big shell a long ways away and at a steep angle
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>>55364271
Scouting is better done by so many other "not a fucking huge target" races, especially since if they break a leg, they don't have to be put down because they'd be immensely depressed from never being able to move again.

They really are just a stupid race to have altogether.
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>>55364266
Loading and dialing artillery doesn't take intellect. Just set the elevation to the number your CO just told you, insert she'll and charge, and fire. A Minotaur would be great for this as he could lift heavy shells with ease.
You wouldn't want a Minotaur behind a machine gun. A machine gun nest is small, fortified, and has just enough space to get a man behind the gun. A Minotaur would just provide an easier target to rifleman trying to disable the gun.
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>if they break a leg, they don't have to be put down

Actually, not every break requires euthanasia. The type of break makes a big difference in determining whether a horse will be able to recover successfully. Horses suffer fractures along a wide spectrum of severity.

For instance, having an incomplete fracture involves the bone cracking, but not entirely breaking. This is way easier to deal with than a complete fracture, which can result in the bone shattering. Many horses with incomplete fractures can recover just fine, so I imagine it'd be the same for a centaur.

Extensive damage and multiple breaks are more closely linked with the need for euthanasia. Whether or not the bone fragments protrude through the skin is also a consideration because exposed bone can increase the chance of complications like infection.

Younger horses generally stand a better chance at recovering from a broken leg as well, plus breaks/fractures in different areas of the leg have different degrees of success when it comes to healing.

Then there's the biggest contributing factor for this statement, which is that horses tend to want to stand (even when sleeping) due to the way their evolution has informed their survival instincts and this can hinder the recovery process in large ways, whereas centaurs understand language and would be more capable of understanding the intent of a doctor and actively cooperating with medical professionals to help recover if it's a possibility.

You're still on point that they shouldn't be on a gunpowder-era battlefield, though. Way too big and too fragile of a target to field in any way re: modern military ops.
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>>55359469
Lizardmen are the ultimate Napoléon to WW1 era soldiers.
Unfeeling, never Run away, regenerate After beeing hit and can remain motionless for hours on end.
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>>55364382
>Loading and dialing artillery doesn't take intellect
No but setting up complex artillery or machinery does also dwarves and halflings are both strong for their size. The hoof hands or whatever the got wouldn't make for good finesse either. Also neither will charge away from their post when seeing something red.
Dumb bovine people.
>>55364304
Stepladders and teamwork.

>>55364449
And also the reason they lost in every cold climate battle.
Having your soldiers fall asleep during battle isn't good.
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>>55364465
When you are a lizard, dont invade russia
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>>55364271
There is a way to allow Centaurs to carry heavy weapons, and that is with saddle harnesses. Strap two gatling guns to the side of a Centaur and give them a way to fire the weapons, like extended triggers of a sort. Same can be done with missile pods, and other weapons. They could also carry small arms for lighter targets, or when they're acting as scouting units.
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>>55364465
What do you think "setting up" artillery entails? You think minotaurs couldn't manage to pull a trailer off a hitch and unfold some legs? What, in your own mind and words, does it take to "set up" artillery?
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>>55364490
There are a few things very wrong with that. If the guns are set far enough back that they are balanced over the centaur's back, the barrels with be roughly level with their ears. RIP centaur hearing. Another problem is how do they load them? How do the assistant gunners load them? Are there other centaurs keeping pace with your mobile platform and reloading, clearing jams, and replacing barrels?
The second problem arises if you move the gun far enough forward that the centaur can reach it with their hands, the weight is now entirely in front of their front legs. Try holding something 1/6 your body weight out in front of you for an extended amount of time and try running while you're doing it.
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>>55364490
Another fun tidbit I missed, how the fuck does a centaur crank a Gatling gun when it's located on their fucking back?
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>how the fuck does a centaur crank a Gatling gun when it's located on their fucking back?
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>>55364932
So on top of the weight of two crew served wapons that were archaic around the time that smokeless gunpowder was common, you want to also strap a generator to a centaur's back? So that's TWO 200 pound Gatling guns which are manually fed through a fucking hopper hooked up to a gasoline engine. We're talking ballpark 500 pounds of gun, 100 pounds of gear, and the 100 pounds of ammo to feed the fucking thing all on a creature the size of a pony? In what era do you imagine this being viable? there's a reason we never strapped machine guns to horses.
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I imagine shapeshifters would be pretty good at sabotage and guerilla warfare.
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>>55359469
nO NON HUMN ALL HIUMN KILL NOHUMAN SHOOT DEAD BANG BANG GUNPOWDER BETTER MAGICNON HUMERN DIE DIE DIE ALWAYS HUMA WKNI ALL MAGIC NOTHING GUNPOWDER BETTER BETTER BETTER KILL NON HUMN KILL DIE
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>>55365477
Having autism makes me clearly identify with a robot because just as they, I have no emotions and run purely on logic. This is why I play robots mostly.

Whats that, you don't like what I like, oh I am so angry at you reeeeee! Oh I'd feel happy just killing you!
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>>55359469
The leshi and rusalkas would be cool spetsnaz for operations in forest environment.
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>>55359469
We can always use more cannon fodder to make sure the humans get home.
Minimally equip them, encourage mass infantry charge, and ensure they're given essential training in front-line weaponry. That will suffice.
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>>55365697
What's next? Batter down nails with a microscope?
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>>55365908
could they be any more droopy?
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>>55365908
why do they all look like they have foetal alcohol syndrome?
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>>55361631
Brian?
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>>55366442
They're not human, they're clearly elves. And it was one of those art styles that existed over 20 years ago.
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>>55359469

Spam iron golems. My army is now pretty much invincible until modern artillery shows up. At which point I will swap to spamming air elementals.

If pushed, I would hire some high-end magic users (Titans, Celestials) to Wish the enemy army out of existence as the ultimate "fuck you".
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Dwarves would be optimal tankers.

One of the biggest factors in determining the size of a tank is crew space. Dwarves, being shorter and more compact, require less space.

However, they are better than halflings or gnomes in this role because despite being smaller they are as physically strong and robust as taller humanoids, so size of gun and projectile would not be limited by the crew race's strength.

Additionally, dwarves are only very rarely claustrophobic, and are resistant to magic that might bypass tank armor.
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>>55359469
Why would humans be deployed?

But seriously though, depends on how much warfare is akin to ours, and can the roles be filled with optimal candinates.
There is also matter of training etc., and design of gear.
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Little surprised no one has mentioned The Saga of Tanya the Evil, yet.

Mage girl fighting in anachronistic WWI. The manga version is funny because the artist doors things like pitting Renoult tanks against Panthers in the backgrounds.
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>>55366728
Does, not doors.
Gotta remember to read my posts before actually posting them.
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>>55366728
Because that story has no idea what the fuck it's doing and is just wasted oppurtunity because the author couldn't keep his late war wad in his balls for when it was time, so it's just an inconsistent mess.

Also apparently while jacking off to Cannae the author forgot about the Battle of Sedan and Tannenberg.
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>>55366695

What the fuck is even happening in this picture
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I feel like if nations consisted of this kind of fantasy multicultural melting pot that it would be really difficult to have the kind of seething nationalism that led to WW1 and WW2.

War is the child of Pride and Greed was the saying, wasn't it?
How do you go about convincing the French elves of the Black Forest that they need to kill the German elves of the Black Forest?
How do you convince the Italian Dwarves on the Alps to attack the Austrian Dwarves that live on the other side of their mountain hold?

While I don't really think this would be enough to stop wars from happening, in a human-majority planet the most realistic position of fantasy races on the battlefield would be civilian casualties.
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>>55366815
Kidnapping?
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>>55366889
Nation states are already made up of different subgroups.

Bavarian Elves and Norman elves aren't going to think of themselves as the same any more than Bavarian and Norman humans do.
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>>55366889
fucking italian and german american citizen all signed up to fight against nazi germany.

Why is it so hard to see that race isn't your tribe? And its not like that stops anything, people of the same "tribes" have gone and killed eachother for simply being on the wrong side of an argument for millions of years.
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>>55366889
> Elven separatists start a revolution to declare the Independant Kingdom of Black Forest.
> This leads to Germans declaring elves evil and starting a campaign against them instead of Jews.
> Dwarves declare some parts of the Alps to be sovereign enclaves and create a neutral territory where elven refugees life in mountain forests, and dwarves underground, in huge, dark, but comfy cities.
> Russian commies treat the leshy and domovoi as the oppressed ethnicities and include them in the Soviet everyday life. Then realize they're not progressive enough, and remove them to new settlements in Siberia.
> American governmen is stuck in a guerilla war against nunnecs and manitu.
> Ukrainian and Romanian vampires create a fascist regimme that treats humans like basically living cattle and vampires as a superior class - the best humans get turned into vampires when they prove themselves worthy. Regimme is overthrown.
> Japan is creating an army of youkai together with the Dragon Emperor's sea army. They attack China.
> They nearly destroy all apefolk of China. Chinese necromancers revive the vengeful spirits and summon Xi Van Mu herself. She brings the army of sky dragons with her. In exchange she wants power over China. Chinese communists agree but plan on killing her.
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>>55366972
You're assuming that fantasy races think the same way as humans and are as prone to the same kind of nationalistic fervor as humans.

Every successful war in history runs on engendering enough percentage of the population to continue supporting it; this is already difficult circa WW2 with just humans, with groups as diverse and fundamentally different as fantasy races it would be even more difficult.
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Centaurs operate in pairs, each with a heavy weapon like a Gatling gun firing across the back of the other. They fire one gun until empty, swap positions, fire the other gun, then both centaurs use their speed to retreat and reload in a concealed position.

The niche of "mobile heavy weapon" is still available, but anatomy means it can't be done alone.
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>>55367107
>2 great big stationary targets taking turns at eating stray shots
Not even that guy but come on man.
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>>55366695
Generalist infantry roles
They've got some of the strength and endurance of the tough races, without reductions to intelligence, hand dexterity, aiming ability, or making themselves large targets.
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>LAMIREZ TAKE OUT THAT HARPY NEST
>LAMIREZ CONSTRICT THAT AC130
>LAMIREZ SEAL THE PORTAL WITH YOUR E-TOOL
>LAMIREZ REVERSE POLARITIES
>LAMIREZ PULL THE KA-BAR FROM THE STONE
>LAMIREZ ASSUME COMMAND
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>>55367055
They don't have to think like humans, no, but whenever they aren't based on human traits they tend to be fake and alien and fucking shitty.

Hence the assumption that they're at least somewhat alike to humans and not just races of robots or navel gazers that are more boring and simplistic than any real human culture.
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>>55367055
Any social animal would act mostly like human.
And if they are not social, they're not inteligent enough to follow orders anyway.
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>>55366889
>Racial diversity makes national unity difficult
Your words, not mine.

That said, heavy deconstruction of ethnic identities *could* do the trick. Think of something like the Ferry laws on steroids. Every elf is required to speak French on all instances, and a human is legally allowed to beat an elf for speaking any form of elven dialect in public. Elves are forcibly removed from their communities and forced into human communities where these elven families are a total minority, forcing them to adapt or die. Elven schools are forbidden by law and elven children are sent to state funded French schools where they learn to become French (Napoléon created the Lycée system specifically for the purpose of turning peasant schoolboys into proud Frenchmen). Soon they'll be cursing the Eternal Teuton as much as French Jews did.
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>>55365087
>you want to also strap a generator to a centaur's back?

No you genius, just a belt drive for the handles...
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>>55364117
>However elves need 50 years to become mature
In 5e they reach maturity at the same rate as humans. Long-lived races also tend to have a qualitative advantage in some way, though, and assuming equal starting population a much larger portion of long-lived races will be of fighting age, since both 16 and 50 are a much smaller percentage of 750 than 16 is of 100. So unless the elves/dwarves are really stupid and the orcs/humans play really smart it's not going to be a particularly long war.
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>>55364233

I'd expect Halflings to be good sharpshooters, scouts, skirmishers, saboteurs, and light infantry in general
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>>55367830
older meme but still kek'd
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>>55366889
>I feel like if nations consisted of this kind of fantasy multicultural melting pot that it would be really difficult to have the kind of seething nationalism that led to WW1 and WW2.
Yeah, how could a nation of irish, italians, anglos, germans, russians and jews adopt a cohesive national identity that pushes them to war against a foreign nation?

Also keep in mind that Algerian Spahi, Senegalese Tirailleur, Angolan Askaris, Indian Sikhs, Nepalese Gurkhas and Guyanese all volunteered to support their respective countries in WWI.
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>>55367055
>You're assuming that fantasy races think the same way as humans and are as prone to the same kind of nationalistic fervor as humans.
While this is true, it makes the original premise pointless, because it is already assumed nonhumans would agree to submit themselves to a human nation-state in the first place.

If demi and nonhumans feel enough kinship to their human nation to willingly and actively participate in the determination of national policy they are probably interested enough to be affected by natinoalism.
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>>55366889
actually a lot of races would likely end up siding with national allegiance as did most colonial troops in WW1
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>>55365900
why does it look like their wings are sprouting from their ass? seems like a poor place for a set of wings to be.
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>>55369315
>French_officer_refuses_to_cooperate_with_Scottish_Highland_Monstergirl_Division_after_the_incident_of_1912_(colorized).jpg
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>>55369380
im stealing this and will not be giving you credit
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>>55369315
That cat actually raises a more interesting point: in a war where magic and demihumans are normal you'd better shoot down every fucking animal you see on the battlefield because god knows if that pigeon is acting as an artillery spotter for some gnome, or those rats were sent here by some enemy mage.
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>>55369436
thats actually a pretty good point
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>>55369235
>Volunteered
As à french, You amused me.
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well, it did win you a war, kinda a jerk move tho baguette-chan
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If you get DarkVison, you get double pay as mercenary.
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>>55359469
>Elves are all armed with rifles, they obsess over their superior marksmanship but get raped in any field battle because they lack the numbers to defeat other armies, their cannons tend to be very light 3-6 pounder guns so they can be more easily carried around for ambushes
>Dwarves wear extremely heavy breastplates and helmets that can resist musket fire and are armed with carefully made carbine muskets, their cannons tend to be large and few in numbers used for battering down the walls of forts or firing grape shot with each ball being the size of a regular cannonball
>Orcs rely on the bayonet to carry the day although not well drilled their armies tend to be aggressive and will advance quickly upon the enemy, firing a few volleys before charging into the fray, their cannons tend to be fairly heavy dedicated siege guns as they see little point in using cannons for pitched battles when they will only fire one or two shots before the infantry charges into battle
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>>55359469
Sure I am a Radical Ordo Xenos inquistor. I got no problem with them aslong as they ain't worshipping chaos or could harm my other troops by there exsistiance. Hell Minotaurs would get along with my extremely chem'd up Guardsman. Skeletons would get along with my chapter since a quarter of them are almost always consumed in fire. Animated armor and such would act as probley a great help for the TAU task force, they need more heavy armor.

Centaurs would probley get along well with are mechanized cav.

In summary they would be extremely useful and I could easily hide them abhumans.
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>>55371733
Except for the skeletons. But you could easily say that they're people who wanted to serve the emperor SO MUCH that not even death would stop them
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>>55361792
>create thick metal shell on wheels/tracks with a gun or five
>minotaurs on the inside pushing the thing across the battlefield towards enemy positions

What do I win?
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>>55371860
I actually didn't think of that. Good idea I may actually use this now.
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>>55371949
It'd probably fly too
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>>55372091
Honestly there is a high chance we could pull this off. Since the current mission involves a Grave world and a Dead world. Which means are resident Alpha Plus Primaris Bio Mancer can bring them back.
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>>55371877
An even bigger target for field guns, likely to get bogged down in mud, won't do much about the overpressure shockwave form shells, and it'll be beef BBQ if anyone just points a flame-thrower in underneath it.

Your prise is that you get to keep being a private.
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>>55372270
Real talk though, the only reason that such a design concept never became reality until the First World War was that they were simply too heavy to be moved by hand and horses were supremely impractical (though thick wooden carts being pushed into battle by horses were used on occasion). With fantasy races in the mix to provide vast amounts of grunt I believe you'd see designs like Leonardo's tank popping up as soon as people realise that their ranged weapons are good enough to win a battle by themselves if the risk of close combat is removed.
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>>55371877
Lifetime of free milk
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>>55372503
pic related to discussion
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>>55362740
>Tactical tiny terrors
Deploy the Drop Dorf!
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>>55366695
>Why would humans be deployed?
of course, which begs the question would non human militaries use human auxilleries and how so?
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>>55374268
Availability for trained skills and accessibility matters too, see the rivalry between the Swiss pikemen and the Landsknecht. Sure, you could hire a unit of Elven skirmishers instead of humans and they'd be somewhat more effective, but there aren't a lot of them and they're pretty damn expensive. You can hire a company of elves, or you can hire a division of humans who are almost as good.

Same with dwarves; a dwarf might be a better artilleryman, but a human can do the job almost as well, is less likely to fetishize the piece of equipment issued to him and won't get into fights with the elven skirmishers.

Humans can probably be hired as much larger units compared to slow-breeding races while being more skilled than fast-breeding races.
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>Lawful Good Human Ranger
Shit.
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>>55367107
>Centaurs operate in pairs,
why not as lancers regiments?
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>>55359469
Related writefaggotry from the Storythreads:
>pic related

>https://1d4chan.org/images/3/39/LandOfCloudAndMists.png

>https://1d4chan.org/images/4/4e/Lessons.png

>https://1d4chan.org/images/3/39/LandOfCloudAndMists.png
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>>55377512
thanks
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>>55377512
>mfw my stories that I wrote in the storythread is posted in different threads and possibly like by others

Do... Do you like it???? What about you other guys in this here thread, like muh setting too? What're your thoughts?
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>>55370094
Not à jerk move, Those guys were not volunteers, they were designated volunteers... That's my point.
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>>55379974
Also pic related also takes place in my setting of the Cedna Accord too.

Read this story first:

>https://1d4chan.org/images/6/69/Twincest.png

It was a different story from someone else which ispired me to make pic related.

Then after reading link above, read pic related.
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>>55379974
not bad, but you should use specific kinds of weapons and machines, like refering to the triplanes as DR.1s
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Dragons likely get put in logistics, engineering and administration roles.

Dragon Seabees building runways and roads, carrying arty guns up to the top of mountains
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>>55379974
Is your setting; >>55377512

Supposed to be some shadowrun setting but in WW1 era to WW2?
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>>55381089
Dragons wouldn't submit to anyone, they would be purely buisness barons and other leader roles.
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>>55377512
God I hate this stupid elf wank so much
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>>55381089
>General, we've recruited a number of giant, flying, fire-breathing, armored reptiles. How should we deploy them?

>Give them administrative roles.
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>>55382237
Its less what they want to give them and its more what the dragons want to take.
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>>55359469
What's more terrifiyng than the regular elven mary sue?

An elf with guns.

>Enhanced perception, coordination and fucking night vision.
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>>55382775
A whole race of tacticool guerilla lanklets
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>>55364117
Sorry but D&D elves are physically adults capable of reproduction at 21.
There's even a table 21 for an elf is like 16 for a human... Only elves remain like that for 80 years...
They are considered fully fledged adults by elven society at 100 years of age.

Most of other things such as birth rates depend on the setting.

For example in my personal setting elves are as fertile as humans but all elven cultures have absolutely Darwinistic societies that weed out the weak with brutal maturity or educational rituals which is why each of them is half a step away from gaining a PC class if you go by their average stats as NPCs and inculde their racial traits from 5E.

And even then. Groups with smaller population have an easier time migrating , evacuating etc.

While Orcs would need the mental faculcies to actually rule and manage their newly conquered lands and are meanwhile seen as hostile by everyone else and are far more likely to be targeted by biological warfare.
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>>55377512
Oh I think anon forgot to include pic related. Also written by me and takes place in the same setting of the Decleration of Surrendependence.

Story-pic related takes place after "Lessons."

>https://1d4chan.org/images/4/4e/Lessons.png
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>>55371142
Elves wouldn't have hearing after a couple of battles. Hearing as precise and sharp as elven would end up with some of the worst cases of Tinnitus we've ever seen
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>>55380835
Thats autistic, don't. Not everyone cares as much about techno-wank as you.
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>>55359469
Humans do general stuff.
Goblins do more light infantry roles skirmishers and support unless theyre knights or golemancers.
Dwarves/Ogres do heavy infantry.
Centaur make up most of light cavalry roles. human and goblin Knights make up the heavy cavalry.
Magi come from all races in the kingdom.
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>>55359469
This is a really interesting idea for a setting, thanks for you're idea OP, I'm just gonna take credit now.
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>>55364067
flamethrowers kill people by using up all the oxygen around them in a confined space like a trench or a pillbox or a cave, you can't go around burning people to ashes with them without getting shot with arrows/bullets/magic
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>>55380835
That's.. extremely autistic.. on like 50s dick bulging war novel levels of autistic.
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>>55361792
In many ways the hell of trench warfare was particularly suited to Kobolds. The reliance on defensive replacements and crew served weapons like mortars and machine guns handily bypassed the average Kobold's inability to easily use or carry a full-length rifle, and they could make especially good use of cover and earthworks with their small size.

Kobold sapper companies proved especially effective in defence-in-depth; they would frequently construct elaborate trap networks in their sectors, as often from sheer boredom as from being ordered to do so; these defences would make charges into such sectors especially bloody. Any zone defended by kobolds invariably became a hardened fortress on the line.

Of course, it was a fortress of mischief, too; Kobolds are notoriously ill-disciplined and prone to unsoldierly misbehaviour. Soldiers in neighboring sectors and adjutants assigned to the company itself found themselves victim to an endless stream of pranks and jests by their small, scaled fellows. Interestingly, the number of disciplinary actions taken is very low in proportion to incidents reported - a common opinion expressed in such cases being, 'it was a good distraction from the situation we found ourselves in'.

-From 'The Great War: The Fire That Burned All Races', by Luthandriel Eradon, c.1933
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>>55384882
>ill-disciplined and prone to unsoldierly misbehaviour.
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>>55359469
Why is an elf wearing the Schemos?
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>>55359469
Harpies are transient enough that most every human nation will have had some contact with groups of them. Their flight ability, small sizes, and keen eyesight make them invaluable scouts. Thus many commanders seek to acquire the services of a retinue of harpy. Most are happy to oblige, with mercenary harpy enjoying some of the highest wages amoung non-human auxiliary and lowest casualties given the nature of their high-altitude work.
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>>55386048
I beleive there's an Air Force joke I can say here, but it's not coming to me.
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>>55385340
worst korean artist, probably doesnt understand the meaning and just thought it looked cool, that or hes a Chaplain
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>>55386470
I mean, Orthodox elves sound interesting from a surface stand point, but they need beards.
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>>55365908
hey this is old Raita art
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>>55369315
> Soldier: I'd rather surrender than work with demons and witches!
> Private: First lietenant...
> Cat: Obstinate brat/bastard.
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>>55359469
>>55362697
That's exactly how my setting is built up, especially careful with the primary firearms pre-smokeless. I'm even considering whether or not to scrap the inclusion of the machine gun since it was such a high factor in changing how modern wars were fought since its development.
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>>55386946
I prefer to keep it exclusively black powder, but I dont shy away from things like gatlings and gardner guns, as they are more artillery pieces than maxims ever where
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Support.

We can't decimate the slowly reproducing population of fantastical beings on the front lines. Let the fairies build our tanks, the mermaids feed our people through aquaculture, and the undead man the switchboards while every able bodied human man is on the battlefield.
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Given that Protection From Normal Missles is a 3rd level spell, do you think wizards are better utilized primarily for defense rather than offense?
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>>55387360
With wizards you don't even need wars, they can just create every material and food you need on a whim. And if somebody fights they can just wish away the despots.

"I cand win against everything" wizards are shit.
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>>55387443
Oh yeah, I forgot in my setting that the capabilities of a Wish spell is only obtainable to the high cultists of the Elder Gods, and even then you'd have to commit an murderous act on the scale of genocide to be granted one.
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>>55387346
>Let the fairies build our tanks
i am intrigued, what kind of tanks would fairies be building, seems inneficient
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>>55387832

The fairies are fine, the problem comes from the fact that their natural predator is the gremlin, which I don't need to tell you is a real menace to complicated machinery. But we have sprays for that now.
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>>55385278
>implying the occasional prank isn't the o my thing staving off the madness
>February 3rd, 1916: trooper Kut'lik'in informed me that my tea set was destroyed by an errant mortar round this morning. Precisely 30 minutes later, he arrived in my dugout with a cardboard box l, crudely wrapped in colored paper, and said it was a gift. Inside was my tea set, covered in water-soluble paint. I discovered this while brewing some tea with it. I should give him some extra duties...he clearly has too much time on his hands. Claws.

>february 4th, 1916: Trooper Kut'lik'in was killed by an artillery shell today. I think I shall find a more permanent paint in the same color. I rather like the tea set he gave me.
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>>55387987
>But we have sprays for that now.
Phosgene or Mustard Gas?
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Kender are categorised as Weapons of Mass destruction. Even a single one dropped beyond the frontlines can completly annihilate the logistics of an entire army or horribly demoralise cities worth of civilian population.
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>>55387832
>>55387987
>Trusting fae with iron and steel
Not only will they kill themselves, but they'll curse your entire continent out of spite (adding on the curse they put on you before, for shit and giggles.)
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Lets not forget the most important and beloved fantasy race of all times: The Flumph.

What use would The Flumphs do too save their country? Medics, negotiators, anti-war protesters?
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>>55389009
This does bring up an important point, how does one befriend a fairy? They sound like incredibly powerful allies if you can get them on your side, but the diplomat who goes to talk to them has to be one brave sonofabitch.
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>>55391050
>This does bring up an important point, how does one befriend a fairy?
Feed her exotic fruits?
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>>55391076
What kind of exotic fruits? Does the fate of the war end up depending of your nation's exotic fruit production? I mean, fairies are usually characterized as powerful but isolated, so maybe a false flag attack on them could spur them to join your side.
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>>55391050
Fae are fickle things, they don't value things like we do or even hold to treaties and alliances. But the simplest way is usually to make them able to meet or take children, hell they might even bless your leaders children with amazing gifts. Other is the standard blood sacrifice.

Of course, fickle things could just as easily be swayed to also help your enemy and then giggle madly as you both use your fairy gifts to destroy eachother.
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>>55359469
In my own setting, the age of gunpowder happened BECAUSE of non-humans.

A giant was protecting a bumbling cannon crew, got fed up and used the damn thing like a ride and decided he liked it. Kept it for the rest of the fight and only gave it back for reloading.

This meant early personal firearms though we're attempts to let non-giants carry siege weaponry before the anti-personnel factor was truly realized.

As a side note: necromancers are used in armies but not quite like what >>55361536 suggests. It's basically impossible to control more than three undead at a time, and that's record limits we're talking. Undead are extremely prone to going berserk and raising them takes time and preparation. What Necromancer will do is invest a lot into a single super zombie (or flesh golem) and use that as a remote operated shock trooper.
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>>55391207
Ones with a herblike smell, soft and pliable, texture like a peach or a pear, with a sharp, strong fragrance.
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>>55387360
Novices think of wizards as artillery, veterans see them for defense, experts use them for logistics.
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>>55384882
Unsoldierly behavior is a very charitable way to describe utter unreliability and ever-present cowardice.

You could use Kobolds as miners or as a labor corps, but you'd better have at least some hobgoblins or halflings on hand if it comes to blows.
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>>55364271
Horses are still used for recon in circumstance, they are quieter then a engine and can move over terrain that a motorcycle can not. Plus while the human bit is only as strong as a human the horse bit is plenty strong, they could carry of all manner of equipment in places where vehicles cannot reach. Particularly in mountains, couple of them lug a artillery or anti-air piece up there and suddenly you have a real issue.
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>>55386421
I got ya, bro:

>>55386048
"By the time mechanical aviation developed, non-harpy pilots demanded much the same treatment, beginning an unfortunate trend."

>>55388256
Oh, good. Fantasy war time feels.

So how common is the tale of the sniper losing his pixie spotter buddy?
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>>55364271
>>55391879
To add to this, horses were still useful in World War II; the Soviets used them to good effect, since horses were somewhat more reliable than their tanks and significantly stealthier.
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>>55391970
ah to dream of the days of grand cavalry charges
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charge_of_the_Savoia_Cavalleria_at_Izbushensky
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>>55364067
Nah man, shotguns are where it's at. Shatter their bones with blunt force of slugs. Either that or apply 40mm on target.
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>>55366695
>Why would humans be deployed?

Because we are exceptionally competent at making ourselves survive in places we aren't suppose to fucking survive in, as well as producing in numerable tools. Humans are streamline and easy adapting to a shit ton of scenarios.

A better question would be why deploy female human soldiers and their equivalents if we are bringing any sort of logic into this.

>muh -4 STR ain't for fantasy
Then don't bring logic into this.
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I'm the company medic, I save lives every day, if i go down no one can keep us in fighting shape. She's the one who saves me.
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>>55396390
>tall as fuck targets
>unless they lie down, hogging up lots of lateral space in cover
>large, spread out volume means easily hit by stray shrapnel
>no visible benefits
Lamias would fucking suck in warfare dude
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>>55396699
good points but they seem like they'd make good infiltrators
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>>55388256
This hits way harder than it should or maybe its just hormones hiting at the wrong time.
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>>55398094
>They seem like they'd make good infiltrators
Not even that anon but i'm bitting it; How exactly is a 7 metre long snake woman going to be better as a infiltrator?
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>>55369315
From the same blog that had the pic
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It completely depends on
>Racial diversity at my disposal.
>Climate/geography of my realm
>Technological era

So I dunno, how about ONE anon announces 3 non-human races that live among his own realm, as well as what kind of a landscape or biome the nation is, and then ANOTHER anon tells them what era it is they need to compete with using.

This locks them into their selection
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>>55398540
What?
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>>55386048
>lowest casualties given the nature of their high-altitude work.
>Then they invented flak and machine guns
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>>55400697
Harpies switch to using Owl ones in night missions to compansate. Casualties at all time low.
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>>55402091
>thinking Flak isn't effective at night
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>if it moves, it's a druid

You now realize poison gas is the natural countermeasure to animal-shapeshifted scouts. Full-body protective suits for ravens or rats don't exist, and if they did, naturally occurring ones wouldn't wear them.
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>>55402091
>switch to owls
>missions have a 95% failure rate because they're too stupid to understand what they're supposed to be doing
>the enemy, however, has yet to detect a single raid being carried out
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>>55400697
Compared to even a biplane wouldn't it be stupidly hard to spot a human-sized target flying that high in the first place? The obvious solution is harpy dogfighting. The lack of pictures of harpies dressed up as pilots disappoints me.
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>>55400298
Autism, anon. Autism.
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>>55391207
That fairy turned him into a girl or some shit, didn't it?
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>>55402170
druids are immune to poison, and have the most options for removing poison?
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>>55402803
Beyond reconnaissance, how much utility would harpies even have on the relatively modern battlefield?
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>>55404479
Distracting the enemy with delicious sneak peeks?
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>>55398271
no footsteps and ideally pick fit agile ones who can move quick and low
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>>55404479
artillery/mortar spotting duties, airborne sentries
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>>55402166
>Thinking they would even know something is up there at night.

>>55402699
That goes for regular harpies as well though. They are all a little stupid. If they can train a regular one they can train a Owl one.
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>>55365908

this was clearly drawn by a fetish artist
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>>55406087
>>Thinking they would even know something is up there at night.
I think they'd catch on pretty quick.
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>>55404479
They're small, relatively fragile, and lack opposable thumbs, so using them for anything close to direct combat would be ill advised. Though them dropping bomblets and hand grenades like biplane pilots used to would be possible. Before the widespread adoption of radios you could see them acting like carrier pigeons to relay orders and vital information. And then you'd eventually see them be treated like avian UAVs when radios become small and powerful enough to be carried in flight, capable of remaining airborne by gliding on updrafts for hours on end while providing a constant set of humanish eyes to relay enemy movements and provide targeting coordinates until actual UAVs put them out of a job in modern militaries.
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>>55406087
>Thinking they would even know something is up there at night.
Yeah, if only there were a race or three in fantasy that could see in the dark.
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>>55365690
>snipers with no need for scopes
>artillery spotters with no need for binoculars
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>>55406087
>being this birdbrained
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>>55406087
I think you're underestimating just how stupid owls are. One at a falconry centre near me tried to eat its own foot because it couldn't figure out how to get the bit of chick it was holding into its mouth; I'm pretty sure it would have choked and died there if the falconers weren't there to stop it.

Owls are ridiculously physically well adapted to their method of hunting, but that means they never had to actually think about what they're doing and so they never developed intelligence beyond that of a reasonably clever brick.
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>>55398318
Never understood how worst korea gives us the fucked up shit of dutchko and the awsomeness of Anyan at the same time
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>>55404350
You've asked that question before I think, no, that's not what happen (it's much worse).
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>>55359469

Go to YouTube and search for GATE.

Its an anime where a D&D world makes the big fucking mistake of trying to invade 21st century Earth.
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>>55411434
Yeah, they died. Turns out that elves aren't so great at rocket launchers.
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>>55411434
Magic is pretty weak in that world though.
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>>55411444
Whoever thought a crash course in rocket launchers would be so ineffective?
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>>55398540
Okay, you get Goblins, Kobolds and Kender at your disposal, all living in mostly flat/Great Plains of an agricultural-oriented country, and they've just invented rifling.
They have two years to prepare for an undead invasion of a cabal of liches with tons of skeletons, thankfully they're still at renaissance level tech.
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>>55411434
GATE is an annoying, self-masturbatory universe where Japan is best and everyone acts like retards in order to make sure the JDF wins.
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I'd like to think that circa the 20th century that Humans have superseded all other races as the preeminent warrior race by virtue of the uniquely human trait of muscular endurance.
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>>55402803
>Compared to even a biplane wouldn't it be stupidly hard to spot a human-sized target flying that high in the first place?
When an entire hobby revolves around looking for birds I doubt the military would have that much trouble, especially if there is magic that can be used for detection.
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>>55411601
That and there are certain races defined by their keen eyesight and marksmanship.
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>>55404944
>no footsteps
There is a big fucking squiggly line in the dirt though.
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>>55411563
First we gotta genocide the Kender for that modern tone.
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>>55411578
>ywn have an arc where the JSDF are put in their place by a technologically advanced entity that, as their foil, lacks the moral integrity of the JSDF
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>>55411578
this
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>>55411623
and a SHOSHSHOSH sound while it drags along
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>>55411798
That too. Try POW crawling through the beach, it'd be something like that but smoother.
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>>55411647
And give the necromancers Kender skeletons and wights to raise? They're like, 20% more annoying than regular skeletons.
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>>55412065
Ovens are the solution. Let them eat kender!
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>>55411434
>mentioning GATE ever
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>>55366580
when modern artillery shows up you start making iron golems OUT of artillery, and teach them how to counter-battery fire
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>>55359469
Scouts and culture liaisons.
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>orcs are frontline troops that skirmish with powerful rifles before highland charging to defeat their disoriented enemy
>elves are long range skirmishers that defeat the enemy through attrition and defense in depth
>dwarves use powerful artillery to blow apart enemy formations while their impeccably drilled infantry slowly push them off the field
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>>55366580
>My army is now pretty much invincible until modern artillery shows up.
The other side has magic too, and its own wish users. And if you can summon wish users you should know iron golems aren't invincible themselves at that level.

Thinking about it, Wish would basically be the equivalent of a WMD, especially if two or more users clash.
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>>55412743
>dwarves use powerful artillery to blow apart enemy formations while their impeccably drilled infantry slowly push them off the field
You don't need a dwarf to handle artillery once it's built, a human can use it fine.

The big value of dwarves in the pre-recoilless guns era is that their stockiness and strength lets them carry and operate light/hand artillery like heavy MGs, hand mortars, abus guns or light anti-tank guns that you'd need a human crew and a tripod to handle.
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>>55412887
man thats a sexy piece of light artillery, very cute
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>>55404944
We're talking about a snake with a human torso on top of it.

Its not like the torso is gonna stay low to the ground, being a soft, human skinned furry lite bait.
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>>55412743
Dwarves would be support and supply since they can march impossible long distances with heavy as fuck gear.

I don't see dwarves being much use on the frontline outside of >>55407125 which would make them great nighttime raiders and artillery.
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>>55412601
why is Weird Al fighting in the gulf war
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>>55404479
Strategic bombing and supply harassment.
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>>55413658
They would also make great tank crews, their small stature is a plus in confined spaces.
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>>55414055
They are twice as large as humans
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Dwarves would be pretty much the perfect premodern-era infantryman
>low profile and volume
>good endurance and carry capacity for gear on the field, and equipment for setup
>darkvision
Only problems are running speed and hygene. There's a reason why you cant have facial hair in the army
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>>55416186
You mean, in the us army
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>>55416186
>There's a reason why you cant have facial hair in the army
Chemical weapons. That's it.
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>>55416231
>>55416240
It's because of the culture of conformity and removal of individuality that plagues the US.
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>>55416249
I thought it was the danger of hairs entering a open wound and without washing yourself regularly means that the you are far more likely to end up with a infected injury.
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>>55416231
>>55416249
>>55416330
this anon gets it >>55416240
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>>55416249
>It's because of the culture of conformity and removal of individuality that plagues the US.
No, that's North Korea.
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>>55364171
>using races in differents roles in the army.
I'm not saying it doesn't make biological sense, I'm saying that's how you get mutinies.
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>>55415770
Dwarves anon, dwarves.
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>>55411540
Its such a shame the only things of value they have is Dragons and Demigods.
Everything thing else is sorta pathetic.
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>>55366695
They would probably be great on a strategic level. Since humans have stamina, probably any fight thats going to take a while or as a force to hold the enemy in place. Humans would also be good for maneuver warfare since they can move large distances and still be up for a fight
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>>55398094
or snipers
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>>55419509
In a world of many races as such you just know we would take our own abilities granted.

God I can hear the gymrats shitposting wildly about how grushnak bloodaxe is fat because he can't leg a 100 mile run, then autistically ranting about fat people.
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>>55416240
what is this 1916?
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>>55422396
Let's look at the facts. Before WWI, everyone had beards. After WWI, nobody had beards. Chemical weapons contact toxins that inhibit facial hair growth.
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>>55398318
source, my good anon?

Is that the guy that makes flight highschool?
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>>55422536
>Chemical weapons contact toxins that inhibit facial hair growth.
Not really that. It was because gas masks were distributed, and you can't put them on if you have a beard, thus shaving became mandatory. After the war ended and these guys went back to society, everybody saw they had no beards and being cleanshaven became the 'in' thing, to an extent at least.
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>>55422536
>>55422677
Also because WW1 had everybody live in trenches for weeks on end in squalid conditions. Shaving helped deter the presence of ticks and lice.
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>>55422677
>>55422692
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poilu
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>>55387360
Honestly with things like mage armor lasting hours per caster level in the cases of Pathfinder and such, defense would be a huge role for wizards over offense. A trench sucks to seige, imagining having to wait for a wizard to defuse a prismatic wall, or a contingency prismatic wall triggered like a mine.
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>>55413743
Because it's more comfortable than the rubber muscle suit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SW7-8C8kL4
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>>55422706
Anon, that got started during the begning of the war, you know, BEFORE gas artillery became a thing, and, after it was a thing you had two options;
>shave and seal the mask
>die
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Mermaids would make excellent rescue swimmers and underwater welders in the Navy. Probably saboteurs of enemy subs since they'd probably just register as a big fish on the sonar.

With centaurs, cavalry could make a comeback since your mount is intellegent and can also carry a gun too.
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>>55423367
>Probably saboteurs of enemy subs since they'd probably just register as a big fish on the sonar.
>Naval vessels now need to have hull turrets to deter merfolk and tritons
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>>55423367
>underwater welders

This is a dumb question, but wouldn't they run the risk of hurting themselves from the heat of the welder conducting into the water around them that a suit normally protects from?

Or is that really a non-issue with underwater welding due to the heat retention of water being too great to allow heat to radiate very far?
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>>55423390
>>55423367
Alternatively, subs focus primarily on ICBM delivery and the rare small-sub delivery of amphibious assault teams while Merfolk effectively become escorts to deter other merfolk. (sort of like troops supporting tanks... only it sucks a lot more due to being under water)
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>>55423397
I've never talked to a welder but I'd assume the latter. Mermaids are good for basically anything diving since it saves thousands of dollars and man hours because they have no need of SCUBA gear and I assume they'd at least have some ressistance to water pressure and cold tempatures.
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>>55423397
Anon, you just need gloves and the helmet, water isn't a good of a conductive for heat. People literally do welding on plain scuba suits
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>>55364409
The problem with horses isn't that they don't recover, it's the fact that their bodies can't handle the increased pressure on the other legs while one leg is healing. Even if they use a harness to balance the horse, it might not lead to a successful recovery.

TL;DR the living couches with constant paranoia don't handle fractures as well as humans do and the exact same rules don't apply.

> https://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/46v38h/eli5_why_do_horses_need_to_be_put_down_when_they/
INB4 LE REDDIT meme
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>>55423491
Saying inb4 doesn't excuse you from being a faggot.
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>>55423626
no offense but when 4chan's got post limits and the poster probasbly doesn't want to bog things down with horse anatomy lessons that would make even /mlp/ uncomfortable, what else is he supposed to do?

Ah, here's what:

>>55359469
Any fantasy race or creature that might be strong enough to strap on these babies?
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>>55423690
>horse anatomy lessons that would make even /mlp/ uncomfortable
I highly doubt that's possible.

t. /mlp/
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>>55411578
They just have a huge technological lead over their enemy. It lacks a lot of nuances and shows the Empire attempt strategies but then forgets it starts them, also forgets how the Empire obtained a gun at one point.

Also, they focus on making the Japanese heroes as soldiery.

If it didn't have six episodes that were basically just murder porn I wouldn't have watched it.
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>>55359469
orks and minotaurs for logistics/manual labor type shit. gnomes and dwarves as mechanics. elves, humans, and half-orcs as frontline infantry. kobolds as tank crews because the crew compartment would be made smaller.
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>>55362665
not to mention undead don't need food, water, or sleep. logistics becomes a matter of just guns and ammo at that point.
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>>55382764
Switzerland.
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>>55422647
Anyan? Yes, that guy.
Here's the page I got it from.
http://blog.naver.com/PostView.nhn?blogId=jk100687&logNo=220911589704&parentCategoryNo=&categoryNo=&viewDate=&isShowPopularPosts=false&from=postView
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>>55423367
>Probably saboteurs of enemy subs since they'd probably just register as a big fish on the sonar.
Sonar kills a LOT of fish anon.
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>>55413743
>gulf war

More like Grenada dude.
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>>55423918
>They just have a huge technological lead over their enemy.

Apart from whenever other nations from Earth get involved, sure. Like that one time a JSDF "special forces" team manages to defeat US and Russian special forces at the same time somehow.
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>>55423121
Infantry, august 1918 offensive.
And beards weren't a civilian fad by any means.

I admit german beards are much rarer, and I've never seen a british soldier with one (indians aside).




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