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>Jumpchain IRC Chat
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>Rules
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>Last Thread
>>55828261
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>>55836960
>Bad Meme Edition
FTFY
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>>55836976
As of this point there's no real plans to remove capstone boosts from my other jumps. All I'll say at the moment.
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You know I thought that Aionon would be our stupidest namefag, but it seems Kilanon has taken the position
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>>55836960
First for Exalted Supremacy
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>>55836990
Which of the Jumps you have made would you most like to see extended story writing about?
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>>55836990
>All I'll say at the moment.
This is code for "My plans have now entered Phase 2."
Everybody, prepare the keikaku countermeasures.
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>>55837027
OH GOD KILL IT WITH FIRE! No! Bad doll! No hugs!
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>>55836976
Red has already removed the Capstone boost from Resident Evil. There's no good reason for her not to remove it from her other jumps. Don't trust her, she doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt at this point.
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>>55837005
>Carefully chooses jumps.
>Does not go to a jump that gives her the ability to regenerate her arm back
Nice.
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>>55836960
So what all jumps are there with OC capstone boosts and perks in general?

>Exalted - The Sidereals
>Exalted - The Solars
>Fate GO
>Fate Realta Nua
>Fate Zero
>MCU Part 2
>Phantasy Star Online
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Dumb edition name aside, I'd like to bring KOTOR's attention to a few JLU questions of last thread once he gets back on.

>>55829245
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>>55837043
What? You don't like dolls?
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That's our edition? Okay I guess.

>>55836628
Anyway, repostan from last thread - "minor, not-really-Jumperish action causes massive unexpected consequences" anecdotes?

Can include Companion shenanigans, but it has to be something you didn't think would majorly affect the setting that did anyway.
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>>55837059
Ignore the shitposting you idiot.
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Would Astolfo be upset if jumper used the genderbend drawback on them?
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You know, I kind of want to make a Pathologic jump, but I cannot see myself playing through the game three times to get all the material. It's such a depressing game, but it would make such a good jump!
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>>55837059
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>>55837077
I bet he'd go a week or two without noticing.
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>>55837059
I guess we can add Kilanon to the list of people who want OAA to stay go then.
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>>55837071
Yeah I am done.

>>55837077
Probably not, he does what he wants and dresses cute because he wants to. Gender is probably irrelevant to him
>INB4 How dare you mess with my trap
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>>55837067
Thats a flesh homoculus (albeit daughter material), not a doll
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>>55837077
No.
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>>55836976
>>55837059
Who the fuck are you and why do you have a name?
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>>55837098
Much better reaction time than Hundred Faced Hassan.
It's been 13,000 years and it still hasn't been noticed.
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So, how scared/angry do you think people would be in Gundam IBO if I introduced railgun ammo that was as penetrating as Dainsleif shots but wasn't? I'm thinking some sort of plasma-based warhead, basically shooting beam sabers, to deal with nanolaminate's weakness to high temperatures. Just as game-breakingly deadly as Dainsleifs, but not violating the treaties. Of course, Ghallarhorn is corrupt as fuck and wouldn't care about me being within the bounds of the treaty, so they'd come after me anyway. I guess my real question is "What sort of lame excuse do you think Rustal is going to come up with for why he sent Iok's weaponized incompetence to deal with me?"
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>>55837077
>Don’t want a cute feminine penis on your waifu.

What are you gay?
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>>55837099
Besides Anonymous and Val, who's on that list?
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>>55837111
Oh, well, if you want something a little more artificial...
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>>55837061
I know that you are shitposting, but I like the mechanic, so here are a few more jumps that include capstone boosters:

>Kekkai Sensen
>Generic Videogame Designer
>Call of Duty Infinity Warfare
>The Irregular At the Magic Highschool
>Macross
>Kill Six Billion Demons
>Bloodborne
>Street Fighter
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>>55837099
>>55837138
Gonna be honest, no clue who OAA is nor why I should care.

>>55837121
:3

I am Kilanon, I have a name because I want to
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>>55837138
Tera / Bancho was the first. NuBee's probably on there as well given he lets Valeria do the talking.
You'd need to ask the IRC for other members.
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>>55837089
Yeah, Pathologic is not a fun game to play even before you get into the buggy programming and terrible English-translated version. It's a good game, but the fact that you don't want to replay it is kind of the point.
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>>55837061
resident e... oh
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>>55837146
>The Irregular At the Magic Highschool
>Bloodborne
Most boisted effects in these have an in-setting basis. Don't count.
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>>55836990
You could just make boosted Capstones a separate additional purchase to each of the capstones on their own rather then attached to Hypnos Genes, since your problem is with the OTPness and the OC connection between Hypnos Genes and the capstone boost.

I'll admit that I honestly just don't want to lose the boosted effects since they were kind of important to my chain and this fucks it up, so I hope there can be a compromise instead of completely ripping them out.
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>>55837164
Ah you are shitposting, sorry to bother then.
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>>55837164
Thank you for that bit of confirmation.
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>>55837164
OAA did Van Helsing.
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>>55837176
>Don't count
You are retarded.
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>>55837164
>I am Kilanon
I am thou...
Thou art I...
From the sea of thy soul, I come...
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>>55837067
No, I'm okay with her. She's outside the uncanny valley. Pretty much just a human with a microphone attached to her head.

>>55837142
Well, I'm scared of her, but for different reasons. That just looks unpleasant to have under your skin.
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>>55837164
>I have a name because I want to
Not how it works. You've got to make a jump if you want a name.
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>>55837201
Don't reply to a shitposter
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>>55837164
OAA was basically one of the worst jumpmakers we've ever had. You ever read the Ghostbusters jump? Yeah, well he's lucky to put out content of that level of quality on a good day.
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>>55837142
Too mechanical, too furry, face popping mechanic is unnecessary.
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>>55837218
I have a name. I keep it sealed in a vault, away from the grubby thieving hands of all you filthy anons.
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>>55837234
Wasn't Ghostbusters Tera's jump?
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So, I'm throwing around the idea of a servant based on (the inaccurate cultural impression of) Imhotep (as in the mummy).

Mostly because if you went and did what the nasuverse does best and made them a woman, you could refer to them as femhotep, and their lilly form as imoutotep.

I'm thinking either Caster, since High Priest, or Berserker, since Implacable Mummy.
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>>55837203
>>55837214
>>55837236
I've got more!
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>>55837218
I did make one. I chose not to post it here in respect for board rules

>>55837201
Saw it wasn't interested
>>55837234
Never read ghostbusters
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>>55837261
notenoughfangedmaws/10
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>>55837169
I know, but I feel the narrative potential it would have as a jump would be phenomenal. Like, the amount of depth you could go into for it, and the interaction with OC powers would be fascinating.

It's just so hard to play, though.
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>>55837255
He's blatantly lying to try and shitpost, anon.
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>>55837177
You cannot make her see reason. She only wants to do this because she can't update things without nerfing them, she's already decided she'll nerf it and doesn't actually care about reasons for why, and she feels the need to piss the thread off again by ruining RE even more then she already has.
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>>55837164
Oh, so your a fruit tosser. That's great another fag to block, contribute something or go fuck yourself.
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>>55837204
Why?

"Doesn't count" would be wrong. Given the context, it should be interpreted as "[They] don't count."

Unless you're saying they're not based on things in-setting, but that would also be wrong.
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>>55837234
Wasn't that Wakfu? :^)
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>>55837269
He's lying to you, but I get the feeling you're going to take him at face value.
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>>55837077
Ugh, I'm sick of Astolfo. There are other traps out there, you guys. Cute, feminine boys have been a thing for fucking ever. There are so many other traps you can draw fanart of, stop shitting up my boorus with the same damn thing over and over again I hate it. I want some actual variety when I type in "trap" on my searchbar, but no, it's always the same pink-haired French asshole. I'm lucky if I can even find any Toushiro. Fucking TOUSHIRO has gotten hard to find, thanks to Astolfo. And Toushiro was Astolfo before Astolfo was.
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>>55837261
too fleshy. Im more of a manikin type of person
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>>55837256
>you could refer to them as femhotep, and their lilly form as imoutotep.
That's perfect.

Caster or Berserker both sound good. Depends on what you want to focus on, I suppose?
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>>55837261
Unnerving, but again, not in a creepy doll way.
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The shitposts are coming so fast I can't even hide them all quickly enough.
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>>55837261
Got something more menacing?
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>>55837287
Sure. I was going to work on Zone of the Enders anyways so I could make a jump that was allowed on tg.
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>>55837306
A new trap flavor will come eventually
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>>55837341
could you replace OAA's jumps, or pick up World of Warcraft?
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>>55837370
Not really interested in any of the settings like Van Hellsing or World of Warcraft
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>>55837389
Stop responding to shitpost.
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>>55837261
I like this pixiv artist.
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>>55837255
It was, but the point is that OAA's jumps rarely even match it I'm terms of quality.

>>55837276
Which of his jumps is better than Ghostbusters? Go on, I'll wait.
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>>55837398
He's an idiot just block him
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>>55837325
I know right? I don't even know why I'm here anymore. All I do is hide every post as it comes in and wait for a jumpmaker to show up only to see them responding to shitposts. I'm so fucking sick of this place.
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How did OAA become a lightningrod for shitposting?

Most old jumpmakers get ignored and I can't remember him doing anything for ages. I liked Van Helsing though. That castle-in-a-brick.
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>>55837059
How fucking retarded are you?
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>>55837414
He's not one of the Aussies, so he's become an "accepted target."
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>>55837414
He came back a few months ago and started an "update" of the WoW jump. Needless to say, the WIP was not well-received.
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What do people think about...well, not capstone boosters, since they wouldn't be capstones, but boosters for item customization options? I've been working on and off on a jump for a while, probably never going to actually finish it, but it's a mecha setting. There's a type of biomechanical mecha that's better than everything else around, so I was thinking maybe having their unique customizations be boosted forms of other options. Like, one of them has reflective scales that bounce energy attacks back at the attacker, so you could get that by taking the energy-diffusing armor available to everyone and the biomechanical construction option to upgrade it, or something like that.
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>>55837414
He made WoW, which the shitposter has a personal crusade to shitpost until the end of time because it got finished despite constant attacks from Timmy. Because Timmy is an indignant little shit, he can't stand the fact that he is actually completely ineffectual no matter how much he shitposts, so he just shitposts harder to compensate.
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Alright, /jc/, how many points would I be paying to make this guy in one of the Fate/ jumps?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzmFEDNWTO8
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>>55837419
well, he's namefagging for no reason, so if he's not pretending, he must be pretty fucking dull.
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>>55837444
Yes it was. You're just making shit up for...I don't know why. But most people were positive about it.
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>>55837448
Boosters make the original thing seem worthless. Unless you want to undercut your own content they're best avoided.
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>>55837450
Uh, last I checked, WoW was still a WIP, anon.
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>>55837448
They're fine. The only one with a problem with Capstone boosters are Timmy and Red.
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>>55837448
Non-canon garbage, remove it.
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>>55837444
>revisionism

>>55837414
Manyfist handed off WoW to him, and thanks to a few shitposters latching on and fanclubs starting up you've got stalkers who love to shit on him hard. They get reactions and so they want to chase him away. They did it with Wakfu and now they want to keep chasing off others.
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>>55837457
This got brought up a while back, actually, someone posted their build for him. I remember they were having difficulty with his fly-whisk as an NP, because resurrection is something that doesn't really exist in Fate.
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>>55837460
Fair point.
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>>55837448
If the last thread taught us anything, it's that all boosters should just be removed, along with anything else that's also flimsy and non-canon OC.
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>>55837484
Oh, neat. Do you still have the build? I'm not the best at navigating archives.
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>>55837457
Not sure if Noble Phantasms can actually get up to resurrection, since that's not really a thing in Fate/ as far as I know. And casual resurrection's kind of his thing.
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>>55837475
>fanclubs starting up
Most of which are Val's, of course. We'll probably never get rid of that particular disease, though.
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Where can I go to import/purchase cloth-based items that don't quite fall under the category of clothing?

I'm currently running a chain where the benefactor figure has an obsession with eyeballs and really anything vaguely vision related, and their selection for the jumpers perks and items each jump reflects this.

Anyway, I'm currently putting my jumper through an arc of sorts where they're gradually picking up this obsession themselves, to the point where they hide their eyes at all times so nobody else gets to see them.

To that end, I'm trying to get the most stylish blindfold/bandana/bandages/vaguely cloth-like substance that I can manage, and in typical jumper fashion, import and enchant them at every chance I can. So anywhere that would accept this type of item would be sweet.
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>>55837467
It's only a WiP if you consider Petals of Reincarnation a WiP. It's not, but the maker plans to add more content, so it's not really finished either.
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>https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/55763030/#q55769200

>You mean the way thread is these days compared to what it used to be? I find it generally nicer, yeah.
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>>55837444
Seeing you post is like seeing a homeless man shit in the street.
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If only Red hadn't given into shitposting and removed the capstone booster, this shitstorm would never have happened.
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Hahaha shit did all shitposters came out of the woodworks or what hahahahaha this is almost as good as the Princessanon drama.
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>>55837413
Same. It's all shitposting and waifuwars all the fucking time, with a bit of actually interesting discussion for a few posts every 2-3 threads and the occassional new jump or update.

Really, if i wasn't already aware that my life is a sad, empty thing the fact that i still keep coming here would probably make sure i notice.
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>>55837463
Okay, but the BALORs are supposed to be super powerful. They come at the cost of being off-brand Evangelions and being really hard to control without them going berserk or eating away at your ego. The first generation BALORs were just giant cyborgs and had mostly normal tech stapled onto a giant monster, but the second generation had better integration of their biology and technology and were doing things like secreting hyper-strong composites out of their skin for unbreakable scales, or hyper-charging their beam weapons with a bioelectric nervous system, or things like that.

>>55837472
>>55837492
No, it's canon that they've got upgraded, superior versions of normal tech. I suspect you're just trying to have a laugh here, though.
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>>55837448
That's fine. KR NH P2 did it with regular items, I liked it there, and that sounds neat.
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>>55837500
I'm afraid not, I didn't save it. Sorry.
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>>55837576
Aw man.
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>>55836990
Does the Albert-01 upgrade reduce the ammo capacity/increase the recoil? Or does it give a damage buff without the drawbacks of the gun?
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Do you have a hero or villain costume, Jumpers?
What does it look like?
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>>55837589
Damage buff without drawbacks.
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>>55837448
Sounds fine to me, just make sure it's all based on in-universe stuff?

Also, an option to import a mech we already have would be nice.
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>>55837505
Near: Autotomato
Blindfold item that's actually a HUD
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>>55837602
Has anyone ever told you that you're a wonderful, lovely person? Because you are.
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>>55837457
>Mwindo
Best thing to come out of Africa.
10/10; top-tier bro
Would servant.
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>>55836990
That doesn't make much sense though. Outside of MCU part 1, all your other jumps have a similar shaky justification for their boosts. Unless this is really just a way to strike out against Valeria, it doesn't make sense that you wouldn't fix all your jumps you see as having this problem.
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>>55837618
Oh, sure, imports are a necessity for mecha jumps. Though like I said, I'm unlikely to ever actually have a finished product I can present to the thread. I always do this, starting jump projects and never finishing them. I get more excited by the idea of making a jump than I do all the fiddly bits of writing out every last perk and item and drawback.
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>>55837506
Eh, I dunno. It still seems like he was planning some significant changes. It wasn't posted as complete, at least.

>http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/55300178/#55304803
>http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/55300178/#55304773
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>>55837638
She's only saying that because she's a fucking liar.
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>>55837602
We love you and appreciate your work Red! Always remember the shitposter does not represent the thread, he's just one troubled individual.
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>>55837659
>he's just one troubled individual and a couple of cuntwaffles riding his coattails for lulz
FTFY
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>>55837670
Yeah that's annoying.

Reminder to shitposters: if the joke is that you're an asshole, you're an asshole.
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>>55837659
The thing is, more then just the shitposter have tried to convince Red to roll back this controversial decision, and a couple guys, myself included, have basically done everything but beg to have her reconsider or take an alternative route.
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>>55829306
Probably not much. Flames of Worthlessness, brain based atmosphere control, host of beelzebub, angel summoning and maybe some scattered perks.

>>55829604
Hey now, i do Westie stuff now and then. I've got most of the items and perks decided, just need to do bloodline specific vampire perks and drawbacks.

>>55829671
I've not played them but I do know a few who have and I've heard a fair bit from them. So I can't answer too much on them.

Sorry, I don't really know. My best guess has pretty much been what you've said.

>>55831264
Praise the Orc?

>>55832130
Yup! Same for Straight too.

>>55837306
How is Toushiro even considered a trap? He's not exactly feminine. Was being a little boy the only qualification you needed back in the day?

>>55837516
Still trying huh?
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>>55837602
Red, please know that the vast majority of people here support you and are grateful you take the time to make jumps and are glad to see you back.
Do you have any plans after RE and ACs revision?
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>>55837701
Don't you think you've done enough damage?
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>>55837701
>How is Toushiro even considered a trap? He's not exactly feminine. Was being a little boy the only qualification you needed back in the day?
I think you're thinking of a different Toushiro than me. I'm talking about Midare Toushiro, from Touken Ranbu. Super trappy.
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>>55837697
>tried to talk reason along the same lines as shitposters
>surprised when they aren't listened to
Yeah, can't say I blame her for filtering you out along with the shitposters. It's not like she can see your intentions thorugh the internet.
In any case there's still the old version of the jump available, just use that if you don't like the changes. I don't get what the big deal is.
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>>55837701
I know your arrogance doesn't allow you to see that maybe people have a point, but fucking seriously? You consider this and the last few threads "better"?
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>>55837736
Theres no way thats a boy that is also a sword
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>>55837602
Hey Red, could I still get an answer on the Blood Donor question here >>55833677?
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>>55837716
Doing BC again, and looking at updating Macross for Delta. Also revamping FMP because that thing's a fucking shitstain.
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>>55837746
Boys who are swords can dress like girls.
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>>55837736
Ah, for sure. Was thinking of the most well known one from Bleach. Really confused me.

>>55837740
Kid, go back and look at some of the more famous things like the MEoDP arguments. This is nothing.
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>>55837755
FMP?
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>>55837720
>Don't you think you've made enough jumps?
I'd hope not. Seeing you type this passive aggressive nonsense warms the cockles of my heart.

>>55837701
>Praise the Orc?
Different guy but it's an original story posted in wuxiaworld. I haven't read it myself but it's a complete story that I've heard nothing but good things about.
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>>55837740
Were you here in early /jc/, or are you just shitting on people because the thread quality isn't exactly "good"? Because yes, it's better than it was back then.
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>>55837750
Ah. Sorry, missed this. I wouldn't say import, and one person's genetics. It's a throw-back to the C-Virus and how they used it to turn Carla into another Ada Wong.
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>>55837765
Whatever. I'm sure you're just getting kicks from this bullshit.
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>>55837755
Nice. Thanks Red.

>>55837778
Full Metal Panic.
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>>55837739
Because I want to enjoy the best possible version of the jump? Like, she's adding things and removing others, I just want to be able to look at the jump and not feel like it's somehow not a total improvement over previous editions because things I liked from those old versions were removed.
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>>55837792
Hm, okay. How does it work if it's not an import then? My RE-lore is weak, yet the virus stuff is cool.
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>>55837755
>Macross
Nice. Tho' it'll always be Robotech in my heart!

>BC
Even nicer. I loved the preview of the Chaos perks. It's going to be real hard choosing what to get when I make my build. Thanks for your hard work, Red.
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>>55837765
I feel like thats going to be on this places tombstone.

>Have you seen <insert argument here>? This is nothing.
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>>55837814
Ah, autism then. I guess I shouldn't be surprised.
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>>55837840
Fuck off, Yakuza. Your discord isn't wanted here.
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>>55837755
Oh, cool, updating for Delta. That should be fun. Beware the idoru power! I mean, you always kind of had to do that, it's Macross, but now you have to do it more than ever!

Also, looking forward to the FMP updates. I love FMP, such a fun series, but I do think the jump of it is a bit, well, bland. It's not bad, it's just not really that interesting. But your jump-making style has changed a lot since then, and I look forward to seeing what you do with it.
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>>55837802
>Full Metal Panic
Ah, right. Should've known.

It would be nice to have a mech import option there too. As well as other stuff, I suppose.
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>>55837827
Genetic engineering perks are your friend.
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>>55837701
Valeria, can you restrict The Ultimate Lifeform to only be able to copy Stands, seeing as how we're given no indication it can copy anything else?
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>>55837854
Why are you calling me Yakuza, anon? That's clearly not my name. Maybe you should go put your glasses on?
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>>55837790
I was here in early /jc/, fuckstick. I remember the Reborn jump replacement and Rebornanon's multiple threads of spite.

My issue here is the fact that Valeria's version of "better" only fucking fits if she gets to watch other people get shat on day in and day out.
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>>55837341
>Zone of the Enders
You have my full support. Good luck Kilanon, Anubis time to meet your mecha.
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>>55837701
Most of Oreimo's capstones (especially the ones which allow you to train by experiencing media) are OC. Can you please find something more appropriate to replace them?
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Just out of curiosity, but what non-sentient/supernatural viruses do we have out there that could be imported and modified in RE?

>>55837792
I can't say I was ever a fan of FMP (the source material, not your jump) but I'm certainly looking forward to the rest.
Though after going through RE, I might be seeing a lot of people as just test subjects and threats for many jumps to come.
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Speaking of the Macross jump, it really is a shame that you can only really experience one era. I'd love to have a "stay for the duration" drawback that puts me there in Zero, and I'm there until the end of Delta (or in the event of a newer show coming out, the end of that).

that or individual jumps for each macross era like Gundam has.
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>>55837916
The different eras take place in entirely different areas of the galaxy, mon ami
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>>55837701
>>55837905
Oh, and a lot of the perks. I mean, really, people in this setting have unlimited memory and the ability to summon knives from thin air? I think not.
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>>55837847
Call it autism, it doesn't change the fact that I mean well and actually just want to have an update that adds to the jump without taking out good things about the previous editions. I've even tried to push for compromise and I haven't even gotten so much as a refusal, which just makes it more frustrating.
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>>55837755
>Doing BC
So if we choose Loyalist what is our relationship with Emps? Is it something like a loyal adopted son or just another body to throw in the grinder that is chaos.
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>>55837905
>>55837929
Buddy.

Bud.

Bojangles.

You're getting nowhere.
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>>55837866
Ah, a more involved process then. Fair enough.

Now I must resist the urge to create a Me-Virus and aim for COMPLETE GLOBAL SATURATION to turn everyone into narcissistic jumpers.

Because that would be bad. Probably.
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>>55837905
I realize your shitposting here, but Oreimo?
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>>55837925
Yeah, but all part of the same civilization. The Megaroads are in contact with each other, you could travel from one to another. It's expensive until the 2050s or so, but possible.
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>>55837870
I don't really see a reason to restrict it with that justification. Many perks and powers expand to work on more than they originally did (Just look at how many magic effects expand to be supernatural in general, or otherwise limited things expand to be supernatural in general). Given the sheer adaptability that Kars has, I find it perfectly reasonable that his copying would work so long as he has the basic potential for something.

>>55837905
Well, no, most of them are directly based on things that happen in the story. That's the only one not a direct, important plot point and it's still based on a bunch of lines Saori says. I don't see any reason to replace it.

>>55837929
Expansion on perfect memory, which someone does have, to make it more appealing for the price. Common practice in jumps.

Neither does Terraformars or many other jumps with similar perks. It's based on Ayase's yandere tendencies to always have a sharp object on hand.
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>>55837932
>I mean well
Maybe but you can mean well while still being autistic and stupid.
If you like the jump as it is then use it as it is and ignore the update. There, end of problem.
If you really care so much about the drive you may be able to ask for a similar arrangement as we have for Touhou were there's two versions, but I don't know enough about the history behind that to say how likely that is.
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>>55837925
And I'll have plenty of time to travel between plots.

I really just hate having to decide between Sheryl and Ranka and the Delta idols.
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Out of curiosity, who spends thousands of your CP over the course of your chain just to be the hammiest individual easier who chews the scenery so much that you are running out of planet
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>>55837914
FFVII's Mysterious Cells that are totally not Jenova cells.
Kill la Kill's Life Fibers maybe? Though those would be parasites probably.
Gad damn alien bullshit.
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>>55837976
>Terra Formars

Oh, speaking of. When's your sister finally replacing that?

You know, that thing he explicitly gave permission for an anon only for it to be discovered that you were going to be related to the "patch job"?
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>>55837976
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>>55837972
Ore Imouto no something something. I don't remember the full name, but it's "My Little Sister Can't Be This Cute". It's a haremshit anime where one of the girls is the little sister. She wins in the end.
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>>55837932
What does it matter? You can still exploit the shit out of the Virus section, there's no point to even taking any of the Perks, especially now that the capstones are worthless and the Capstone booster doesn't doe anything. Just spend all your points on the viruses.
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>>55837991
You can't use old versions of jumps, you can only keep then in your chain if you previously made a build for it. It's also not feasible to discuss or suggest options in old jumps without inviting shitposting. The old versions effectively don't exist for the purposes of this thread.
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>>55837992
The struggle is real
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>>55837765
I remember when this thread wasn't a designated shitting street. We used to have heated arguments sure but that was because people were passionate about Jumps and their settings.
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>>55838026
and then they break up like literally two weeks later
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>>55838005
Dunno, haven't heard from her about it much. I'm glad she's not needing me to do as much anymore, though I have a suspicion it's just because she's super slow anyway.
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>>55838034
I think you meant "spend all your points on the properties", because those are the clear winner in my book. Seriously, why would you waste points on something you can make yourself when land that follows you from jump to jump and retcons itself into existence is at such a premium? Stupid move, on your part.
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>>55838051
>The old versions effectively don't exist for the purposes of this thread.
And how often do you post your builds, hmm?
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>>55838064
Don't romanticize the past. That never happened.
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>>55837997
Guilty.
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>>55837755
For Controlled Infection which option would I need for it to work on all female humanoids? I want my amazon virus.
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>Thread totally isn't full of powerwankers guise
>Red removes the capstone booster
>Thread goes batshit fucking insane

Well would you look at that.
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>>55838094
Still tweaking that part.

>>55838034
Not much I can do about the setting, anon.
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>>55838076
Occasionally. But now any combos that involve them or suggestions to use options from the jump are invalidated, for seemingly no reason. Yet another reason not to bother with combos, if jumpmakers choose to remove their components on a whim.
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>>55838064
Yeah...no, I don't really remember that. I remember when people carried out their feuds publicly and constantly, when arguments weren't just heated but actively vicious towards each other on a personal level, almost everyone carried grudges for at least a few people and when even the IRC had constant shitstorms.

At best you're just looking back with rose tinted glasses, because that wasn't accurate at all. Nowadays we might have small arguments every thread or two. Back then we had full blown shit storms every few threads.
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>>55838120
And does it hurt you somehow not to mention combos regarding one jump out of hundreds? Seriously anon this only matters as much as you want it to.
And I'm done. Good night all.
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>>55837991
I just want to have the things that were in the old jump in the new jump. Like, it's not that complicated. The new version adds things I like, so it's not like I can disavow it completely anyway, and the only thing being removed which I have a problem with is the Boosts for the Capstones. Turning it into a 'just use the old version then' situation is stupid, because I want the update.
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>>55838107
They weren't even that powerful, though. People are annoyed because she's seemingly doing it for no reason other than being annoyed at another jumpmaker. There was no indication that this was in the cards until a few days ago, "coincidentally" when an argument involving them occurred.
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Capstones were a mistake.
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>>55838117
Could Null and Void make non compatible infected into carriers instead of being outright immune?
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>>55838089
I remember the time before Timmy, the background bullshit level was significantly lower.
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>>55838175
You were a worse one. Correct that mistake anon, forthwith!
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>>55838175
Perks were a mistake
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>>55838175
perks were a mistake
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>>55838175
Wait, so you think all perks should cost the same? Well, I guess that would make bookkeeping easier.
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>>55838161
Because that argument brought up very good points and I couldn't really justify them anymore. Simple as that.
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>>55838175
>>55838197
>>55838198
CP was a mistake
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>>55837890
>>55838064
Tell you what: Why don't you post a few archived threads showing that early /jc/ was any better than what we have now?
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>>55837991
Anon, if he wants the best possible version of the jump, that means he wants the update to have everything that's being added and the capstone boosts from the old jump. Telling him to go back and use that old jump is missing the point, since the old jump is still missing good things from the new one.
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>>55838202
No it did not. It was shitposting through and through which should have been completely dismissed, there were no good points presented by anyone.
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How do pods work? If I pod someone can I use them in an import companion option and give them points to spend?
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What jumps let you import an animal from a past jump to be an altform please?
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>>55838257
You can Import them, yes. Mind that this doesn't turn them into non-Pod Companions.
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>>55838202
But you don't have to get rid of the boosted capstones even if you get rid of the capstone booster. Even if you agree with the arguments that Capstone boosters generally aren't related to boosts and are OC and have OTP problems, you could still opt to go for another route, like simply adding a surcharge onto the capstones of 100/200 CP to get the boosted version, which solves all those problems.
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>>55838268
I only really know of Exalted: Lunars letting you do that... Terrar Formars does something similar-ish with a transformation thingy instead, but that's not really what you're looking for.
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>>55838257
Yes.

But you still need them to occupy the pod even if you import them as a companion.

Even though I personally think that companion options like the old marvel jump has, with the phrasing "becomes a companion" ought to work otherwise.
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>>55838283
It was 26. He skipped any other purchases and bought 12 endowment.
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>>55838175
/tg/ was a mistake, it's nothing but trash.
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>>55837204
Proof! He doesn't care a damn thing about "OC" its just a made up argument.
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>>55838311
Thank you good friend for the reminder.
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>>55838236
So he wants his cake and to eat it too. Seems greedy of him.

>>55838256
>there were no good points presented by anyone.
Well, not by you at any rate.

>>55838314
Internet was a mistake
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>>55838257
If you use a pod on someone you essentially turn them into a companion with all the benefits of being a companion, they just respawn on a slower time. (Takes a few days for a normal companion, and a week for a Pod Companion). That means you can import them and all that good stuff just like you would a regular companion. Pod Companions also don't count towards the companion limit so you can have eight normal companions running around and however many pod companions joining them.

If you ever feel like they'd be happier in the current world or just don't get along with them anymore, you can always drop them as a companion and free up the pod to take someone else.
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>>55838305
>>55838310
Do you get an infinite amount of pods? Where do the pods go if you have the backpack chain drawback?
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>>55838307
A surcharge doesn't get rid of the OC issues, and it still has the issue of adding mandatory purchases for perk effects that can be seen as being required for having "full" perk effects.

All it does is dress up the problem under a different name.
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>>55837306
Remember the trap from Stein's Gate?
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>>55838064
No. Valeria was right about it being better. People have always been shitty to each other in this thread, but i can't remember a shitstorm in the past year that was nearly as bad as when Touhou was made.
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>>55838345
What the heck is the backpack chain drawback? Otherwise, no, you get one pod per purchase.
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>>55838349
Why aren't you removing all the OC from your jumps instead of just capstone boosters?
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>>55838333
>Seems greedy of him.
Okay? Do you have any actual reasons for why having new properties and such added to the jump requires the Capstone booster to be removed? They aren't mutually exclusive beyond whether the jumpmaker decides they want to do it or not.
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>>55838375
t. Timmy
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>>55838349
Just throw away the Resident Evil update. It's never going to be accepted.
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>>55838345
One pod per purchase
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>>55837886
Not him but it is somewhat telling that you were so ashamed of your failure that you changed your name and have been deflecting any mention of your history when it comes up.
I mean, I understand not wanting to wallow in your mistakes, but damn.
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>>55838333
Do you have anything to add other than tired ad hominems and memes?
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>>55838345
The pods are bought from the warehouse supplement. You get 150 cp for that, and the pods are 20 each.

I almost always buy 7 pods there, because pods and return trips are the only things that you can ONLY get from the warehouse, and return trips are a horrible bargain.

I'm not familiar with backpack chain, so I'm assuming that's part of that universal drawback supplement or something?

the harsh interpretation is that the pods dont fit in a backpack and you can't take them. the generous interpretation is that the pods are symbolic of the slots they represent, and you don't need a physical tube to cram someone into.
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>>55838377
Don't know why your asking me. Don't much care either since your motivation seems pretty obvious and I'm bored of all the shitposting today.

>>55838400
Do you?
Fire was a mistake
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>>55838349
Alright then. Can you do what Touhou did and let us keep the old version then? Because I'm going to be honest, I don't feel the same way, and wish to just use the jump and enjoy the content without any of this bullshit getting in the way.
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>>55838410
My motivation is to get the Capstone Booster back. I'm being transparent here, I'm unconcerned about anything else, I'm not going to dress it up like I care about more then that.
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>>55837886
remember that time you tried to pick up the Yakuza jump.

And then botched it.

that was funny.
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>>55838410
>accusing everyone who disagrees with you of shitposting
Valeria brushing off all criticism as shitposting is what caused this debacle in the first place.
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>>55838441
>My motivation is to get the Capstone Booster back
Okay then. Use the old jump. there you go, you have what you want.
I'm sorry if I seem flippant here, but I really don't get what the problem is if that's all you're after.
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>>55838349
To add on to >>55838415
Just give us the update in two versions, one with the capstone booster and one without. At least let us chose which we want to use rather then decide for us what would be better, becasue I guarantee that most people would chose to keep the capstone booster if given that choice.
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>>55838457
You mean how she countered all your bullshit with examples of how everyone else has been doing the same?
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>>55838457
>Valeria correctly identifying shitposting as shitposting
FTFY. I bet that just grills your peppers.
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>>55838192
So the first few months of jc.
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>>55838474
Because I want the booster in the update. What is so hard to understand about this for you?
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>>55838498
Did he really start that early or is this hyperbole?
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>>55838349
Except that doesn't make any sense. They're not "locking off" the effects of a perk, they're adding different effects that you can choose to receive. It's not a piece of a perk, it's an extension. They force you to decide between branching out for other useful effects, or going all in in a given specialization. And the base perk is usually good enough that the specialization is not something you always need, but something that might be appealing if you enjoy those types of options.
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>>55837914
The Immortality virus from Underworld.
The base strain is a little susceptible to mutation, but it does seem to grant greater strength the more it changes.
I mean, those super-werewolves were off the fucking charts. They even lost their only weakness.

I mean the base stats boost alone is ridiculous. Plus immortality.
Serana is a perfectly ordinary, if well trained, 2nd generation vampire here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cE8cceN2Pk
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>>55838360
Yeah, Luka's a good one. I wouldn't make his mother eat beans, if you know what I'm saying.
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>>55838525
So you're just an autistic retard then. That's simple enough to understand. Pity.
Yeah, I'm done with you.
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>>55838545
See >>55837463 and >>55838034.

>>55838480
>>55838415
I don't want another Touhou situation.

>>55838388
You could always do it yourself, or recommend someone else to do it.
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>>55838567
Why would I even care if you were done with me? You're not Red, you're just some random fucking anon. Even if you agreed with me you'd be fucking useless at actually achieving my goals.
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>>55838566
Ironically enough given your pic, French Toast is one of my favourite foods. British style though, not American with all that cream and nastiness.
Just whisked egg with a little seasoning water and vinegar on white bread fried on medium heat for about 2-3 minutes each side. Searve with ketchup for a lovely nibble.
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>>55838570
>I don't want another Touhou situation.
I would honestly rather a Touhou situation then what you're doing.
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>>55838217
Jumps were a mistake.
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>>55838570
We don't care about what you want, we're trying to offer compromise.
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>>55838566
Bread. I love bread. Such a simple thing, and yet you can get such a wide variety of tastes and textures from it. It's a magnificent food, and I'm so glad it's a staple.
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>>55838589
Such sweet butthurt.
Thanks for the laugh.
You're not going to get your way in any case.

>>55838604
Of course you would. You'd love more shitposting

>>55838607
The Big Bang was a mistake.
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>>55838526
He's been here less then a year.
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>>55838002
I could have sworn not!Jenova was supernatural.

>>55838562
Hmm. This could be interesting...

>>55838566
I like a variety, myself. It's probably why I spent so much time learning to cook. Granted, I don't cause flavorgasms in people, but then I'm not trying to battle other chefs.
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>>55838616
you went too far too fast.

shoulda gone "Quicksilver was a mistake" first. Then we escalate to people and existence and all that.
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>>55838570
Could you please answer >>55837936 ? Honestly I am just curious about how he would see us.
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>>55838570
Those people are transparently shitposting though. They don't offer any arguments as to why your position is right.
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>>55838526
Since Bayonetta
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>>55838616
There's literally no shitposting over the split Touhou jump.
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>>55838593
>ketchup
Wait, why would you have ketchup with French Toast? That sounds like a flavor clash.
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>>55838613
>I don't care about what you want, i only care about what I want,
You are such a child. Do you even understand how weak your position is? There's no room for compromise here. Calling it compromise is you jacking yourself into thinking you have any power here at all. What you should do is ask nicely, beg if you have to and hope she gives you what you want and be damn grateful if she does.
Of course you can just use the old jump like a mature adult rather than a tantruming child, or even just homerule like someone with some actual creativity.
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>>55838570
The Touhou jump is fine nowadays. No one cares if you split your jump anymore.
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>>55838616
>The Big Bang was a mistake.
C:\>reality.exe
BAD COMMAND OR FILENAME
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>>55838640
>I could have sworn not!Jenova was supernatural.

I wouldn't know I havent played the game since I was maybe ten years old. I just remember that the cells were like a disease and were at least semi-sentient in at least a hive mind way.
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>>55838642
Haven't figured that out yet. One thing at a time.

>>55838613
I'm noticing the first part.

>>55838662
I care.
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>>55838649
The maker isn't here anymore and pretty much everyone hated him anyways since he regularly wanked mega hard and made Jumps with suspicious options to inflate his own build. It's no fun for a shitposter to shit on somebody that no one cares about.
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>>55838649
>There's literally no shitposting over the split Touhou jump.
G.. good. Did I say anthing about touhou? Are you sure you linked the right post?

>>55838652
It's good without it, heavenly with it. In moderation of course.
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>>55838677
>Haven't figured that out yet. One thing at a time.
Alright, I can wait. Thanks for answering Red.
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>>55838566
Pizza, something shared with a lot of people.

Dani is fond of waffles, Ryan is a snob about lobster bisque, and Jill grew up on coconuts.
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>>55838658
>Of course you can just use the old jump
You're fucking wrong though, because the update has stuff other then removing the capstone booster, and you can't use any of it unless you accept those capstones being removed. That's why this argument is happening at all, because people want something from the update that isn't there and can't be fixed by ignoring the update wholesale; a definitive, best possible version of the jump.
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>>55838652
>That sounds like a flavor clash.
You might be thinking about the American style. Make with sugar and cream. Bleurgh. That would be nasty with ketchup.

>>55838677
>I care.
It does seem like it would set a messey precident. Best avoided.
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>>55838349
Thing is I disagree with the idea that "OC" is something to be avoided. The problem with jumps with no OC is just how silly it can be to be a carbon copy of some character? Its a unnatural and sterile concept. OC at its best would help being organic to the world yet keep with the uniqueness of what we can be.

I don't agree OC is something to be avoided, it leaves you suggesting we should be color swapped palette of the MC or someone else. A little OC helps with that.

As for the mandatory feeling thats a bit of a bigger issue I admit. But on the other hand it doesn't have the one true build problem so I don't mind it that much.
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>>55838566
Fruits. All fruits.
Though apples are my favorite.
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>>55838718
Read the whole post you're replying to. Last line in particular.
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>>55838732
That you, Ryuk?
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>>55838677
>I care.
Your jumps show that. Thanks for the work you put in.
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http://www.strawpoll.me/14136792
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>>55838743
No, but I would love to be a looming goth scarecrow looking fucker.
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>>55838718
Your aren't going to get what you want. Get used to it. You aren't even talking to Red and haven't for a while now. You've just been arguing with other anons. How's that helping you?
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>>55838755
He's so fucking cool looking, agreed.
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>>55838723
>You might be thinking about the American style. Make with sugar and cream. Bleurgh. That would be nasty with ketchup.
I don't know, I make my french toast just with eggs, and I don't think ketchup would go well with them. Ketchup is a bit too acidic to go well with french toast. I'm not sure what sauce I'd put on french toast if I wanted a non-sweet option. Maybe something spicy?
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>>55838566
I fookin' hate food. Food is first and foremost fuel and it should be treated like it. Some extremely nutrient grey paste or drink. Preferably drink.
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>>55838753
>E) I want all the participants to shut the fuck up and move on with their lives.
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>>55838767
You sir, are a shit.
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>>55838070
>Super slow

Sounds like she needs big sister-in-law Val to mush her along.
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>>55838761
I don't know about that. Some of the frames in the manga were pretty unflattering.

>>55838766
>I don't know, I make my french toast just with eggs, and I don't think ketchup would go well with them.
I don't know which brand of ketchup you use (I use Heinz) but can I make a suggestion? Next time you make some french toast, take a small bite and add a tiny bit of ketchup and try it. I'm 90% sure you'll like it. Just don't use too much.
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>>55838767
How does it feel to have (literally, in this case) the objectively worst taste?
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>>55838753
Where's the "Fuck off and die shitposter" button?
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Rob Rhinehart, is that you?
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>>55838767
as someone who periodically drinks soylent, even I think you're fookin nuts
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>>55838767
>Says this in the secret foodie thread
See pic.

>>55838812
Same as the report button anon.
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>>55838677
Red, please just let us have the capstone booster. It would probably make more people happy then it would upset them if you kept it in.
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>>55838796
I don't think Val and Alice are together anymore.
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>>55838796
I know, I know. I've been trying to write down stuff when I can to hand to her but I've been so busy with my own jumps. hard to be too pushy though given she is actually a lot busier than I am most days.
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>>55838780
Hmmm. Quite.
>>55838800
Feels effective, my lad.
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>>55838757

tbqh mein famalams I don't care what Red does as long as the virus table is good and that I can keep my pharmaceutical company
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>>55838797
>I don't know which brand of ketchup you use (I use Heinz) but can I make a suggestion? Next time you make some french toast, take a small bite and add a tiny bit of ketchup and try it. I'm 90% sure you'll like it. Just don't use too much.
I don't know, I just can't see it going well with something custardy. I don't like ketchup on my eggs, either, for that matter.
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>>55838767
I'm not sure how to deal with this much concentrated wrong.
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>>55838831
Is it because of NuBee?
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>>55838836
You don't even have a nose!
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Is it just me or does shitposter-kun sound more desperate and confrontational than usual? I think the holidays are already getting to him.
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>>55838859
reveal your secret identity as Eebnu?
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>>55838859
Confirm or deny: >>55837138
>>55837099
>>55837167
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>>55838829
I can't find the justification, anon. I'm not going to lower my standards.
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>>55838877
The holiday season is a sad time of year for many, anon. Pity our poor shitposter-kun, as they have no other way to experience joy.
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>>55838898
I'm not even going to try and make an argument for you to change your mind, I'm just going to say it would make me very happy if you did, and if makes b=me very sad that you won't.
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>>55838677
I find the reasoning for all this to be a bit questionable personally.
You want to remove the capstone booster because 'people were bitching' and 'it's flimsy non-canon and OC'.
The second part is debatable, but the first is completely untrue. I have yet to see a single post from before this all started that complained about the capstone booster.
On the other hand, you flat out refused to revise the Virus/Parasite builder section because 'it's been in too long, it's too late to change now'.

How is it acceptable to modify or remove one long-standing section of the jump and not the other, when the other has legitimate balance problems and the first doesn't?
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>>55838898
You're ruining multiple builds. Including your own, mind.
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>>55838829
>It would probably make more people happy then it would upset them if you kept it in.
It would maybe make one person happy, anon. Two or three at a stretch. None of which any of us should be overly concerned over.

>>55838843
>something custardy
What on earth are you doing to your french toast to make it custardy?
>I don't like ketchup on my eggs, either, for that matter.
Hmm, I do. I guess we just have different tastes, anon. Still, there's no harm in you trying at some point as an experiment. It's important to push boundaries and explore new permutations to keep things fresh with your food!

>>55838877
Now you mention it. Yeah, I think so.

>>55838898
>I'm not going to lower my standards.
I can't say in words how much I approve of this stance Red.
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>>55838767
Sure, you could choke down a nutritious grey drink once a day, and it would provide everything your body needed.

But it wouldn't give you everything your mind needs. The experience of food, the enjoyment of it, is one of the most basic sources of pleasure in the human experience. Without the varied tastes, scents, and colors of real meals, your continued survival becomes that much blander, that much less fulfilling. The human mind needs those little sources of pleasure - good food, good company, good dreams - to keep from going insane out of either grief or boredom.

Food is good for your soul, you might say.
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>>55838859
Go back to beating up the Devil
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>>55838898
Are you going to change Bayonetta too? MCU part 2? God of War? If this is really about your standards and you are so completely opposed to compromise, it's not fair to do it for just this one jump.
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>>55838916
>The old jump will magically disappear if a new one is made
Just use the old one you silly sod.

>>55838922
>Food is good for your soul, you might say.
Yes! Mentally, culturally and spiritually, food is important beyond merely meeting the body's immediate needs!
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So what are some other OC options that you feel are poorly implemented, and though accepted earlier, would like to try to convince the jumpmaker to change them? Personally, the entirety of Razzle Dazzle could use some revamps.
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>>55838927
She's already talked about that, anon. Catch up with the thread before posting, please. Let's not clog things up with repeatation.
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>>55838898
If we buy Olympian Subject can she be a product of our customized virus/parasite?
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This is what happens when you create cliques and fanclubs, /jc/. You wind up with namefags who believe themselves above the rest. Who refuse to answer to the majority.
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>>55838911
>On the other hand, you flat out refused to revise the Virus/Parasite builder section because 'it's been in too long, it's too late to change now'.
Fun fact, I'm doing just that right now.

>>55838916
Just the way it is.

>>55838927
Need to update MCU and God of War anyhow. We'll see what happens, no real plans on the boosters there.
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>>55838932
>The old jump will magically disappear if a new one is made
>Just use the old one you silly sod.
Wouldn't the Jump on the drive be replaced? Not particular one way or the other but just saying pretty certain it would disappear from common access
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How many people actually want to have the capstone booster removed? Not 'don't care', but actively want the booster gone rather then for it to stay?
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>>55838935
So you just want to be color palette swap of some character instead? Doesn't sound much better to me.
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Okay how many people actually want the capstone booster to stay? Normally stuff getting removed from jumps gets the thread reeing like no tomorrow, but people like>>55838919
are acting like only the shitposters and/or a very small minority want it to stay.
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>>55838886
My secret identity remains iron clad, known only to a select few! You shall never weasel it out of me you fiend!

>>55838924
I'm doing my best, anon! I got Stage 1 stuff pretty much done on Perks and just finished writing notes for Items. I'm working on Drawbacks now and just stopped by to confront heresy in the thread.
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>>55838948
Yeah. Like that smug turd Anon. I hate the way he samefags all the time like we can't see what he's doing. Arrogant, that's what he is!
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>>55838956
I do
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>>55838962
I'd like to see the capstone booster stay.
I like them. They're fun.
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>>55838964
>My secret identity remains iron clad, known only to a select few! You shall never weasel it out of me you fiend!
You are Deku!
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>>55838932
It'll be replaced on the drive, and talking about it in the thread will cause shitfights. You really can't use it in the context of this community.
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Did some more work on the WIP Black Queen Harry Potter fanfic jump.

Having some trouble thinking of items.
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>>55838956
I do. Capstone Boosters were a poorly -conceived idea that just encouraged you to pick up a booster and as many capstones as you can.
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>>55838955
>Wouldn't the Jump on the drive be replaced?
There plenty opportunity for someone to download a copy of the current version, and if they lost the chance they could just ask the thread. It won't be lost.

>>55838956
>>55838962
I want you to recongise it's not in your power one way or anther. even if you could prove that the majority of the thread wants it one way or another, it's ultimately Red's decision, not yours.
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>>55838956
Nobody.
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>>55838980
>will cause shitfights
Everything causes shitfights here. Talking about the weather has a good chance of triggering shitposting. That's not good reason not to and it's not as though it's likely to come up often anyway.
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>>55838990
So, basically, you don't give a shit about what's actually in the jump and just want to shit on people who do care because they aren't completely satisfied with it?
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>>55838984
>and as many capstones as you can.


Um that's not going to change at all without boosters. It's always been better to go for capstones generally speaking.
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>>55838956
Shitposters

>>55838962
Shitposters

Shitposters like you two (?).
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>>55838990
>even if you could prove that the majority of the thread wants it one way or another, it's ultimately Red's decision, not yours.
Technically, the thread is the final arbiter on what gets accepted to the drive. If there truly was a majority who wanted it to stay, it's possible it wouldn't pass, though it's also possible that some people want it to stay but wouldn't reject the update just because of such a minor reason.
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>>55838990
The thread could reject it to the point that Brutus doesn't put it on the drive. It's isn't actually up to Red or any other jumpmaker whether their jumps get on the drive.
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>>55838976
Hah. . . .no! That'd be. . .stupid! I'm not that courageous cool guy Deku who's all inspirational and definitely gonna be a great hero and stuff. Did I mention he's cool and that I'm definitely not him? I'm not Japanese, that's dumb.
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>>55838984
Removing the booster doesn't actually change a thing about the jump balance besides giving us 500 more points to buy capstones with.
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>>55838984
This >>55839009
It's why they're called fucking capstones, anon.
Because they're the best perks in the jump.
It's why they're so expensive.
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Its gotten old now, please get better material.
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>>55839008
Don't put words in other people's mouth you little twat. And don't pretend you care about anything other than your own shitposting.

>>55839024
>The thread could reject it to the point that Brutus doesn't put it on the drive
Fair point. But he'd have to be convinced that it was genuine concern and not shitposter's reeee'ing. How'd you prove that to him?
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>>55839016
Fuck off Timmy.
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>>55838898
You called the boosts OC.
Might I ask you to explain, as I don’t see it?
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>>55839044
I care about it more then you fucking do.
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>>55839044
>How'd you prove that to him?
All it would take is him seeing this thread to see it's just persistent shitposting.
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>>55838984
I agree with >>55839009 besides there are often times I don't want the other capstones available so I just go with the one that I like and save on points. Not super hard to handle

>>55839025
Could just be my perception but I don't really think that Brutus really denies jumps on whether the jump is good or not.

I think it's more he checks to see if it is an update/something new and is complete. Though I could be wrong as I don't have a good idea into the mind of Brutus
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>>55839047
>confused for timmy
I feel dirty and ashamed for my low-quality shitpost. Forgive me, thread.
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>>55839056
Except it's not.
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>>55839055
Uh-uh. I care about so much more than you. Like, times infinity!
You're just like a big baby, so I thought I'd talk to you on your level.
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>>55839064
Shut up
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It's been 2 hours and we past bump limit

Is that a record for us?
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>>55839075
>Except it's not.
Either you haven't read the thread or you aren't posting this with a straight face.

>>55839064
>I think it's more he checks to see if it is an update/something new and is complete.
I think that's normally the case but in extraordinary circumstances he does more.
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>>55839054
Because there is no proof that Hypnos Gene would make you better for planning, or increase your antibodies, or somehow allow you to control your mutations.

We never seen them do that.
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>>55839091
God no.
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>>55838984
That's objectively wrong anon. Capstones are already the best perks, and some jumps make them so much better for the cost that you'd have to be retarded not to load up on drawbacks and only take them.
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>>55838898
You know they have been more than a few actual arguments put forth that you could rebuttal if you feel your decisions are better and actually help explain it to us. There are arguments to both the OC argument, and the mandatory perk argument.
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I'm not even looking forward to the update anymore. Basically everything I like about the jump is being removed, from the virus section to the capstone boosts, all I feel is disappointment that something which was supposed to be good has turned out to remove everything worthwhile from the jump instead.
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>>55839009
>>55839032
>>55839036
Not necessarily. With a capstone booster,your choice is: "Spend 500 CP on two minor to moderate effects, or spend 500 CP on one moderate effect, and one effect way better than even the other capstones." Or: "Spend 600 CP on a minor effect and a moderate effect, or 600 CP on a powerful effect and another effect way more powerful than even that option". With no capstone boosters, it's just: "Spend 600 CP on one powerful effect, or one moderate effect and one minor effect". It's a no-brainer in both cases.

Tomb Kings and both of the NieR jumps are both good examples of what I mean for the latter, every jump with a Capstone booster is what I mean for the former. In those, the other perks are competitive with the capstones if you sink that much CP into them, whereas with a capstone booster... They just aren't.
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>>55839112
Why does Eyes of the World make you a better schemer or better at finding out about people?
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>>55839026
It's OK Bakugo we all know who you are.

Can I date your mom?
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>>55839112
So you have a perk that allows us to make an original virus that still feels like a part of the world.
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>>55839112
What exactly sparked this decision? I feel like you were gone for months and suddenly you decide the RE capstone booster is bad because it's unbalanced (I don't really see it) and oc (never really been an issue for jumps to have a bit of that)?
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>>55839133
Except you have to spend 1100 CP to get those benefits. It's balanced because you have to spend more to get more.
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Question for you guys. I am on the fence about formatting for Zone of the Enders.

Should I do origin discounted perks or selective discount on price tier.
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>>55839112
There's also no indication that simply being an Asgardian gives you automatic understanding of their tech or gives you an elemental affinity.

We never see them do that.
Ragnarok might change the second one but who knows.

I just wish you make up your mind on whether or not you really want to remove all the 'flimsy and non-canon OC' that people were allegedly bitching about.
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>>55839133
...so perks are better if you put half your CP into boosting them. No fucking shit sherlock. The thing your side always seems to miss is that capstone boosters cost a lot. Some people might cheapen them but the ones that get discussed most (Val's and Red's) are in the 400-500 range. That's a big investment.
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>>55839157
Basically Val used the concept of capstones to powerwank and threw everyone who ever included them in their jumps under the bus. This betrayal hurt Red immensely.
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>>55839165
Don't even bother.
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>>55839165
I don't see any reason you'd do a selective discount. There's plenty enough to have origins with their own perk and item lines. You've got three games to draw from.

If you're not confident you can get enough, don't pick it up. With how popular ZoE is, you're going to get slammed if you fuck it up.
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>>55838983
Veela sound like they get everything an Incubus/Succbus would get and then some. Shouldn't they be more expensive?

It's wierd to me that there's a dark magic perk but not a light magic perk when everything else seems pretty even-handed between light and dark perk purchases.

As for items, maybe religious paraphenalia regarding the Powers? Alters, or items, or ritual knowldge. The means to spread their worship into other worlds. Things like that?
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>>55839132
How sad. Are you going to go listen to Linken Park now?
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>>55839176
>powerwank
Val did nothing wrong. She identified the shitposting immediately and responded with a totally reasonable argument which was completely sensible. Red took umbrage to the shitposters however, and gave them exactly what they wanted instead of Val.
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>>55839112
But the description for Hypnos Gene says it makes you better in general, and the list of boosts is “You are better at X”.
It seems like it follows to me.
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>>55839164
>>55839170
Yes, except the booster itself usually provides a host of powerful benefits on top of enhancing whatever else you chose. It's rarely ever just a CP tax.
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>>55839168
>Asgardian gives you automatic understanding of their tech or gives you an elemental affinity.
For the first, who else could have insight into their tech but an Asgardian? They live there surrounded by that tech. Also for the second point, f'ing Thor! Storm God, remember! Loki, Ice Giant! this isn't OC.
>automatic
Of course not, that's why normal Asgardians have to buy another perk to get it.
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>>55839176
She said most capstone boosts were OC. But Val also obviously has no problem with OC stuff, so how is that throwing anyone under the bus? It's hardly an insult or anything.
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>>55839182
>With how popular ZoE is, you're going to get slammed if you fuck it up.
Popular? Not in my world, anon.

>>55839202
Right on the first half, wrong in the second. I guess you take the 'when telling a lie, mix-in the truth' principle to heart.
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>>55839202
Actually, it seems to be Val's arguments which resonated with Red the most, the shitposters seemed to have little to do with it. Red thought Val's observations were accurate, but felt differently on whether it's okay for the perks which they applied to, well, do that.
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I just want someone to tell me what state the IRC's in. This has got to be juicy.
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>>55839235
>wrong in the second.
I'm not though, can you honestly say that the shitposters weren't happy when Red showed up to tell them that she totally took the bait and was giving them exactly what they'd said they wanted? They've been shitposting all this thread and last thread as a result.
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>>55839235
She literally fed the shitposter by doing this. Even if you feel it's justified and don't care, you have to admit that this was what they hoped would happen and they're taking full advantage.
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>>55839213
>They live there surrounded by that tech.
I'm surrounded by electrical wiring, a computer and monitor, a cell phone, and a fan.
I don't understand how any of this shit works beyond: lightning goes in, good stuff comes out. We've literally never seen anybody actually modify or even repair their tech.
>Also for the second point, f'ing Thor! Storm God, remember!
Always uses his hammer for that. The only time we've seen him even possibly do that on his own is during the trailer for Ragnarok, which I mentioned in my post. As it's only about 3 seconds of video, it's hardly confirmation.
>Loki, Ice Giant!
Exactly. He's not an Asgardian. He can't be used as a measuring stick for a perk that makes you one.
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>>55839277
What the fuck how dare you imply Red did something wrong. That's impossible, so you must be Timmy. Get the fuck out .
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>>55839264
They are discussing whether or not having dark eldritch waters attached to your soul is a bad idea, and saying that Val is the DeVal if NuBee is Cuphead, and wants the cup-booty
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>>55839298
and discord?
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For the people who want to keep the Capstone booster, just download the PDF from this thread so that we can share it among ourselves in the future and keep this version relevant after it gets deleted off the drive.
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>>55839298
Oh, yeah. I forgot how Val's little coup made the IRC into her rabid army.
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>>55839315
Fucked if I know.
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>>55839317
thx senpai
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>>55839317
Thanks.
I'll have to save the new one too, though.
I'm not sacrificing an update for a capstone booster, or vice versa.
If I was better at pdf shit, I'd just copypaste the old Hypnos gene into an updated version and keep it for myself, but whatever.
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>>55839319
They're actually talking about how Yoro make most of a Cryptark jump while bored at work and if a Pact or Twig (Wildbow) jump would be wanted more.
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>>55839350
Why are you replying to a shitposter?
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>>55839112

Technically that's not completely implausible for some of that. The Hypnos Gene does remove weaker cells while causing better ones to reproduce more.

>make you better for planning

Brain cells are technically cells. So better brain cells should function at that better.

>increase your antibodies

This seems like it would fall under the 'encouraging better cells to reproduce part'.

>somehow allow you to control your mutations.

However yeah this parts unlikely, and so are a few of the other ones.

Although if it wasn't for the potential issues caused by it being a virus option 'Psionic Potential' could be a good alternative for a capstone booster. Mostly since a lot of the boosted effects seem like they could be explained as psychic weirdness.
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>>55839353
~shrug~
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>>55839292
Yeah, your 'human' but you haven't been 'educated' in your own tech.
Replace 'human' with 'asgardian' and 'education' with 'retro-engineer'
You need to buy two perks to get the benefit, anon. Not just the one.

>We've literally never seen anybody actually modify or even repair their tech.
True but someone had to build it and maintain it, and if not the Asgardians then who? If we go by the comics or mythology you could argue dwarves or such, but the MCU has no indication of anything like that.

>>55839292
>Always uses his hammer for that
Hmm, you have a point. The MCU I don't think has any other Asgardians using the elements directly that I can recall. Ignoring the comics of course.

>>55839330
>Thanks for being spoonfed
I can't help but find this odd. Can you not use the drive yourself? Why such disproportionate gratitude? Are you being sarcastic to anon?

>>55839350
>Pact or Twig
I've only read Pact but that sounds nice. Lots of rules-lawyering.
>Twig
Wasn't that they one with all the bio-engineering and steampunk?

>>55839362
My ~brother~ from another tild~mother!!
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>>55839292
The bifrost bridge was broke, they fixed that. Thor in Thor 2 says they all have rudimentary education in their technology. Just that his mom was more the scientist, as seen with the soul forge.

>Hammer

His hammer is a focus for things.

>Loki

He was raised Asgardian and is pretty much an Asgardian with blue skin.
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>>55839380
>He was raised Asgardian and is pretty much an Asgardian with blue skin.
Just like a black child adopted by a white couple becomes white. That's just simple biology. /s
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Can someone please post the latest Majikoi "update"? It doesn't appear to be on the drive.
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>>55839397
They’re called Oreos.
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New puppies are the cutest things.

>>55839399
"here" "you" "go"
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>>55839414
Sweater puppies are the best puppies
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>>55839341
It isn't difficult at all really. You just need something that can convert pdf into a regular text document and back again.
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>>55839414
>puppies are the cutest things.
FTFY
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>>55839414
You got a pup? What race?
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>>55839341
Just don't mention it in thread. We don't want to hear about your homerules.
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>>55839419
Finally something we can all agree on.
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>>55839419
They are but new sweater puppies are less best. Kelpie puppies are still pretty cute.

>>55839428
Kelpie cross something unknown.
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>>55839414
Hey Val, the wiki says the Arcueid Berserker's Ultimate One EX skill would have restrictions on its duration when not on Earth. How effective do you think the skill would be?
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>>55839419
You are not wrong.

>>55839442
Why the cute girl? I see no puppies, or sweater for that matter.
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>>55839447
Got new boobies? Post em.
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>>55839420
Hmmm.
Might try it.
>>55839433
Try and stop me, homeskillet.
You have about as much power to stop me as damp paper towel.
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>>55839456
Sweater puppies is slang for boobs.
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>>55839462
Why not do the RE update yourself, then?
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>>55839462
>Try and stop me, homeskillet.
Come at me, bro!
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>>55839456
Oh Justice, never change.
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>>55839462
>You have about as much power to stop me as damp paper towel.
So as much power as you have in real life. Nice to know.
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>>55839467
I am aware, I'm being intentionally obtuse

Also it's a good excuse to post cute dogs.


>>55839491
I don't plan on it.

As an aside, I want a Newfoundland.
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>>55839475
Who knows? Why have you chosen to "update" it rather than try for an actual, proper improvement?
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>>55839447
>Kelpie cross something unknown.
That sounds like a plant, you have a dog that was breed from a plant?
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>>55839442
>>55839491
Uh... Your trip fall off?
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>>55839451
Not sure, honestly. At minimum a fair few minutes to last a fight but maybe not on the hours duration range.

>>55839457
Alas no available camera, so you'll need to make do with a very similar stock photo.
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>>55839414
This seems to be missing the Kazama family scenario.>>55839442
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Just because fuck this guy >>55839433 in particular, and because I love home rules (and have them for everything from Battletech to Monopoly) Tell me about your Home Rules!
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>>55839475
Why've you chosen to fuck it up?
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>>55839521
Das a cute dog
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>>55839521
So, how do you feel about Red deciding to start an endless amount of drama over capstone boosters?

Let's hear some honesty.
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>>55839520
Oh, it did indeed. Good catch Anon. That's what I get for posting in other threads.
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>>55839517
It is a mystery dog. Who knows what it will sprout up into.
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>>55839341
Is this your first post in the thread? If so, you should know that talking about banned or outdated jumps is shitposting.
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>>55839521
If its not to much trouble could you post the most recent F/GO scenario pdf?
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>>55839475
Easy as it would be to just copy and paste your best work together and correct the only mistake I feel you've ever made, it's simply not worth my effort.
I'll just keep it to myself and post my build if people ask for RE builds.
>>55839489
That's it, shirts off! Put 'em up!
>>55839498
Smooth turn around, anon. You really showed me.
>>55839507
>>55839542
Who are you? Why so angry?
Also:
>Why've
Doesn't really work, I don't think. I've never heard anybody use that.
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>>55839561
Hey Val, in FGO's Hero Hunter drawback, does the "every bit strong enough to slay you" part also account for what we've bought in the jump?
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>>55839475
Because I;m fine with the RE update and like what you're doing with it, I just wish you were willing to compromise on this one issue, and am willing to go ahead and change it for myself so I can have this. The fact that I'm willing to edit together an old and new version of your jump together shows that I actually like what you had in that old jump enough to keep it even after it was removed in a future version, kinda like how some people will mod old features back into games that were patched out future versions.
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>>55839566
Don't threaten me, anon.
I'll find out where you live and we'll duel to the death with live trout.
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>>55839184
>Veela sound like they get everything an Incubus/Succbus would get and then some. Shouldn't they be more expensive?
Do they? Succubi?Incubi don't have to worry about their appearance slipping if they get angry. I'm going to change the prices since I forgot to make note of Veela having limited rights outside of France and known Succubi and Incubi being hunted outside of Italy. I honestly can't believe I forgot to include that but that's what I get for working on this on and off again during my free time.

>It's wierd to me that there's a dark magic perk but not a light magic perk when everything else seems pretty even-handed between light and dark perk purchases.
The thing is we don't see any examples of Light magic outside of a few items and the White magic of Marduk. I suppose I could just include a perk saying you know some Light Magic.
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>>55839521
Do the Stands we get in Jorge, by default, have a similar Growth rate like what Killer Queen does? More specifically, is it possible for our Stand to develop abilities similar to Sheer Heart Attack, that relate to the Stands primary ability but take a radically different form?
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>>55839523
Shit, that must've been cut off. I'll add it in right now.

>>55839596
Here you go/

>>55839610
Not unless this is your first jump.
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>>55839414
Does the boosted Only Humen internally produce energies that would normally need to be gathered from the environment?
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>>55839632
They are Stands as Standy as Stands normally are. If you want to have it work that way, it seems like a choice you can take to me.
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>>55839600
>>Why've
>Doesn't really work, I don't think. I've never heard anybody use that.
Yeah normally people say things like Why'd you do it? where Why'd is shortened for Why did. It just looks weird and ungrammatical in text though.
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>>55839633
Thanks have a bote
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>>55839637
If they could be stored within you, I'd say yes. If they're purely external, I'd say no.
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>>55839561
Hey Val, in the Hero Hunter Drawback for GO, does it account for Items and companions too? Is it okay to wank that they have effective fiat immunity to everything we have instead of somehow just being strong enough to kill us, since I literally cannot even conceive of a way for such a confrontation would work otherwise?
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>>55839632
That's just how Stands work sometimes. Developmental Potential isn't just "Get Better: The Stat", sometimes it allows a Stand to develop entirely new abilities. Do note this usually means the chances of developing other new stuff goes down as new stuff develops.
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So, nasu question.

if I go to say, Kara no Kyoukai, it's the same magecraft i could learn in a Fate/ jump, yes? I could learn reinforcement there, yes?
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>>55839553
>Let's hear some more fuel for shitposting
You really don't like us, don't you?

>>55839600
>That's it, shirts off! Put 'em up!
Yes! We shall pose like manly men! Whoever is most cut shall earn the respect and awe of the loser!
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>>55839523
Here's the properly fixed Majikoi update. Has the Kazama scenario and an ending section.

>>55839651
Botes are good too.

>>55839662
Well, you can have that fiat immunity be one way that they are able to somehow kill you but they're going to remain capable of killing you.


>>55839685
Yes and yes.
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>>55839706
>Yes and yes.

Sweet, Thanks. Need that, but not ready to start my servant blitz yet.
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>>55839706
Hey Val is what >>55829734 says true? I thought it was different but now I am unsure.
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>>55839706
>or with your fists, against the Friedrich patriarch and an entire army of angry Germans.

Wonder how they like fighting the damned souls of Elite SS units.
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>>55839706
>you wish, you may also take one of the family members as a spouse.
I just realized with this I could even take Mikado, seems weird.
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>>55839706
No, I mean like, basically treating that drawback as a powerlock and itemlock and companionlock drawback. Because I can imagine and write out the situation in which they can kill me if I can't use any of my stuff against them, but if it's a fight where I have everything and they can still kill me, I literally can't even think about the power levels necessary for that to work out.
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>>55828261
They kind of are, yeah. Like most of the stuff in Oreimo and especially Kakegurui, no one in canon has stuff that even approaches what's on offer there. It's like, really? Why do you expect anyone to believe this is anything but a blatant powergrab?
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>>55839769
>Wonder how they like fighting the damned souls of Elite SS units.
Go and stay go Reinhard.
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>>55839769
Germans are massive cucks when it comes to their past, so they'd probably be happy to fight them. Maybe not so happy about getting killed by them.
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>>55839615
>>55839600
>>55839542
>>55839507
I find it confusing on how "improvements" seem to be defined as giving more stuff. Whereas fixing issues that were stated with meta and OC stuff, not to mention broken tables, seem to be seen as a bad thing only because it takes away noncanon stuff and loopholes. Even when people were complaining about them beforehand.

If people want the effects so badly, maybe give suggestions for things to do that aren't "not-addons" or "keep the OC anyway".
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>>55839960
I've thus far enjoyed the improvements and updates you've made. As for those going apeshit over them, I simply remind myself: "This is 4chan. It wouldn't even meet the standards of Mos Eisley."
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>>55839960
>I find it confusing on how "improvements" seem to be defined as giving more stuff.

This is a game about (among other things) purchasing things with points. Having more options from which to choose is always superior to having fewer, even if we do not plan on taking a particular option, it is nice to have it offered.

So yes. More options = more better = give more stuff.
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>>55839960
...could you put the boosted effects as separate perks then, please?
I liked the 'choose how you look after regenerating' and 'infect yourself to make a vaccine' ones. They were neat.
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Where's the "how you look has nothing to do with how strong you are" perk from? I know there's one out there.
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>>55839723
Mmmm, unclear. At the level of power they're at, it's really hard to make any qualitative measures of power that aren't measuring Taikyoku, since any other measurement is basically just "Can it destroy this thing? Yes." Well, barring literally omnipotent beings of course.

I'd say it should be a mix of both. It is a thing where, if you don't have any, you just lose no matter what. But it also seems to be true that having more means you're overall stronger too.

>>55839777
>taking Mikado
You mean it sounds amazing.

>>55839769
Taking the LDO to Majikoi will be amaaaazing.

Especially having Eleonore and Margit meet. Oh I don't think my heart could take it.

>>55839781
No, that's not how the drawback works. It seems a bit weird that you can't think of a way when you've already suggested a way. Have them be able to disable certain powers of yours or be able to bypass them outright. Have them be able to forcibly weaken you. Stuff like that.

>>55839866
Almost everything in both jumps is directly present in canon or directly based on something strongly present. There are very few things that are not. Even the things that are not directly present are no further away from what they are based on than similar perks in countless other jumps.

Also notice you can't even give examples so you know, kinda lazy on the shit post game man.
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>>55839960
I have an issue with it because I don't really get the capstone booster=OTB argument, nor do I really have a problem with OCish options as long as they kind of fit the setting. I'd dislike the capstone booster if it upgraded a perk to let you ejaculate rainbows for instance, because that isn't really based on any aspect of the setting.
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>>55840013
>Taking the LDO to Majikoi will be amaaaazing.
>Especially having Eleonore and Margit meet. Oh I don't think my heart could take it.

Not him but, the way you say that makes me feel like the only way that could happen is if I replace Reinhard to be her sweetheart or something to make her come along, considering his...presence.

Being snakys friend would be cool, but replacing Reinhard would mean I couldn't befriend the beast himself.
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>>55839996
>'choose how you look after regenerating'
That honestly seems like something that could go in the base perk. Unlike the others, it doesn't seem like something that vastly increases its usefulness, rather being for aesthetic purposes.
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>>55840047
Indeed. Hmm. Maybe I can do a scenario or something based on Kaziklu Bey Interview so you can get the whole LDO as a companion. With Merc nerfed anyway
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>>55839993
Quality > Quantity

>>55839996
>mfw
See, I can see that. Hell, I might end up making the former a virus perk and the latter a general perk. I actually kind of like that.
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>>55840069
Maybe with Reinhard not 'loving everything' as a promise to you? If so I can see it working, hope it goes through.
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>>55840074
>Quantity > Quality
FTFY
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>>55840069
Well "Reinhard is personally interested in you" be a scenario?
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>>55840074
>Quality > Quantity

You've been here four years and still believe this.
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>>55840120
>Well "Reinhard is personally interested in you" be a scenario?
That sounds like you want him to love you more then anyone else, messing with his desire or something.
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>>55840120
Think I have a drawback styled after that already, actually.
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>>55840013
Wilhelm will just sperg out and call everyone monkeys anyways.
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>>55840074
>Quality > Quantity

That only really applies in cases where the effort required to produce the greater quantity would detract from the quality of the output.

Clearly that's not the case, since the perk in contention is already written and is being removed.

That said, I didn't intend to debate it, I wanted to explain why people might perceive a greater number of options as better.
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>>55839960
BECAUSE THEY'RE ALREADY THERE
No one is asking you to add something in that isn't there in the first place, they're asking you not to remove something that's in the jump as it stands, which WE LIKE. How is that difficult to appreciate?

No one cares about the OC stuff. Only you have enough of a problem with it to actually remove content, I'm fine with it, several other people are fine with it being there. OTB? No such thing as far as I can tell.

I've made suggestion several times such as adding them on as a surcharge, and you said you don't care because it doesn't make it not OC.
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>>55840131
They're my standards and I don't want to lower them.
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>>55840145
Forcing Wilhelm to go to school with Japanese kids would be the most awfully hilarious thing.
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>>55840157
Then don't judge people harshly for going and changing it on their own terms to fit their own standards.
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>>55839414

I have a few Grand Order questions, and some general Servant supplement questions. I'm starting with the later.

1. Are there any general rules for what to do about skills and noble phantasms that are basically the same thing? For example like how Medea has the Golden Fleece/Argon coin as both a skill and a noble phantasm, and other similar stuff.

2. If you make a living (and more importantly sapient) noble phantasm would it take up a companion slot, or would it just be one of those non-companion entities?

3. If you give a canon Servant one of the templates that alters their backstory can you give them different stuff from the canon version do to the changed history (assuming it's sufficiently plausible that an alternate timeline version could have gotten it)?

4. Is the Servant option in Grand Order still limited to Fate (and Shiki Ryougi), or can you literally summon anyone from Type-Moon (provided you can afford it)? I know the Extra part implies the later, but I wasn't completely sure if it would be the same or not.

5. If you don't take Mr/Mrs Protagonist but a companion does do they still replace that character?

6. Can you still take the Assassin scenario if you take Grand Day Out and/or Beastly Temper, or does the 'Grands not active' and/or 'Grands trying to stop you' stuff make it not compatible?

7. If you take multiple scenarios where you encounter the same character can you have them be the same person instead of getting multiple copies?

8. With Grand Day Out if Goetia manages to pull off part one of their plan would it be safe to assume that they only burned from Bablyon to the present (a.k.a. the time frame containing the singularities) and that the really ancient civilizations aren't erased yet?

9. If you take Beastly Temper would a sufficiently high luck score be enough to get past Merlin's 'can not ever possibly die' thing?

10. Is it possible to succeed at either the Grand or Beast scenario with just stuff from this jump?
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>>55840157
You've changed your "standards" how many times since Reborn?

Get real already.
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>>55840074
Yay, I helped senpai a little!
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>>55840157
Keep your standards then, I'd like to be one of the people who supports you.
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>>55840069
Do It!
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>>55840013
Show me in Kakegurui someone who:

>Can on a whim find people to perfectly challenge them
>Automatically knows the relationship of two people despite their best attempts to obscure relevant data
>Has perfect recall and infinite storage for memories
>Pay money to be waived of criminal charges
>Has the conceptual ability to challenge literally anyone to a gambling match against their will
>Has an absolute sense for cheating, and precognition in the relevant area
>Can magically reduce their abilities when it gets too hard for them to cope
>Conceptually enhances their charisma by winning
>Conceptually worsens a weakness by exploiting it
>Changes probability to make anything possible
>Conceptually increases your power and wealth exponentially the more you have
>Conceptually renders an organization more ineffective just by becoming part of it

Excuse me if I don't believe you're capable of providing that.
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Did Timmy get cucked again?
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>>55840172
Could you talk this bitch >>55840157 into sense already?
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Thousand Master (Negima), Valka (Banner), SS Rank Potential (Nanoha), High Bucket & Pool Capacities (Slayers), 80 Magic Circuits & Family Crest + Reinforcement Magic (Kara No Kyoukai)


and this isn't even my final form.
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>>55840295
...Cool build, bro?
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>>55840295
>High Bucket & Pool Capacities (Slayers)

Invalid jump
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>>55839960
>Whereas fixing issues that were stated with meta and OC stuff, not to mention broken tables, seem to be seen as a bad thing only because it takes away noncanon stuff and loopholes. Even when people were complaining about them beforehand.
>If people want the effects so badly, maybe give suggestions for things to do that aren't "not-addons" or "keep the OC anyway".


Because to remove OC is actually promoting a stale copy of established characters and things that look oddly out of place by there sameness? You can't actually be arguing that a color palette swap is all that natural in a jump?

You ignore the criticism, but its still there. There has to be some room for OC or its actually leading to oddly out of place characters.
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>>55840157
Just curious, but did you read any of the threads that occurred while you were gone?
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(Since the scenarios got posted I'll go ahead and post this)

Interlude – Jump # 228 (Fate/Grand Order) Festival of Fitness DLC

Ughh so this was grueling. I found myself transported to another pocket world to compete against greek and roman heroes in a mini Olympics event. There were contests from martial arts to singing contests to shield surfing. I decided to bring Arturia along.

While the competition was fierce anything that had to do with fighting or speed I was untouchable. I even outran Atlanta making her look slow. It took a lot out of me doing so but it was worth it.

The quiz show was actually a bit of a challenge it was closer than I expected with Chiron because he had familiarity with the subjects but I am an intelligence stacking jumper so I prevailed.

The easiest competition was the song completions. I am a bard after all. I sang a song that left everyone weeping at it’s beauty.

Bringing Arturia really payed off big in the chariot race and the Cavalry event. She wasn’t as good as some of the other competitors but I have force powers to make up for that. We managed to pull off a couple big upset wins.

The one I didn’t think I was going to win was the Fitness competition. I admit I kind of cheated just a little I went saiyan then went imperfect super saiyan 2 so with my tiny frame my muscles were huge. Thankfully do to my beauty perks they were also perfectly form I just looked beautiful and really fit. My saiyan abilities also really payed off in the eating competition. I swear when I go saiyan I just never really get full

One by one we took every competition. I was expecting to draw the ire of the completion but they all just seemed impressed and driven harder to defeat me. At the final battle, the free for all I knew they would all be coming for us first.

(to be continued)
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>>55840181
1. Go with what fits the build of the person you're going for.

2. It'd be a follower, yeah.

3. Long as you can justify it, sure. Not an excuse to just buy them for way cheaper but you can get a lot more leeway.

4. Anyone present in Type Moon's universe. Barring crossovers with other series, since they're non canon to my knowledge.

5. No.

6. No, it'll still work. Like all EVENT scenarios, it'll just take place in a time and space independent of the main jump's story.

7. As long as it gives absolutely no advantage, okay.

8. If Goetia manages to pull off the plan, it'll go off as normal.

9. Most likely, along with various abiltiies to do so.

10. It's possible, if extremely difficult. Each side has it's advantages- Grands know more about what Beasts they'll encounter but Beasts don't have to protect humanity as well.
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>>55840366
They tried to swarm us teaming up so that we would be out, we had some of the greatest warriors in all of history and myth after our heads. Arturia was resolved and fearlessly stood to take them all in a last stand…

I on the other hand stopped time, teleported, threw illusions, buffed the hell out of Arturia then went to town. The illusions of me suddenly appearing at certain key points actually got a few teams to off eachother. The time stops actually didn’t do much but teleporting was a big help. It bought me time todo bard song.

Barturia and I with Bard song was something to behold, everyone seemed to be moving slower, their blows were weaker and clumsier. I bounced between sword swings rolled past spears and arrows and returned with strikes of my own. I became like the Tasmanians devil in the old warner brother cartoons chewing threw everything that got in my way.

By the end I was very tired and more than a little wounded but Arturia and I still stood (barely in Arturia’s case).

Apparently I did so well all of the competitors decided they wanted to come with me.
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>>55840240
It's essentially the entire point of multiple characters to just search of people who can give them those challenges, the perk just allows you to find them.

First few chapters, MC figures out that her opponent has enslaved the other students despite little to no evidence to say so.

Main character, though the storage is just an expansion.

Extending the payment system that exists in the story, where you pay money to get out of punishments in the school.

Expansion of a rule in the story where someone can challenge literally anyone to a gambling match and they must accept.

The sheer insanity of detecting some of the cheats the MC pulls off, even when she should have literally no knowledge that it's going on.

Can't remember which perk this was, could you point it out?

It's what happened with the student council and the president, who became more and more popular and irresistable because of her wins.

You do like using words like conceptual to exaggerate things huh? It's not even that either, it's making it easier for you to turn an advantage into something more advantagous. Exactly the philosophy and method that the president uses and succeeds at.

Probably the least present in full but it's based on the philosophy and lifestyle of the two main characters, something they constantly mention and act on.

Again, president, exactly what she's done and continues to do.

This one's literally just what the MC does to most of the student council.

Should be all. There's some expansions beyond canon but I don't feel that's anything not done constantly in most other jumps too. Also, you're being really obvious with the conceptual shit about your goals here.
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>>55840366
>Festival of Fitness DLC
How many more are you doing?
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Fine, fuck it. I give up.

I'll add the capstone boost effects back in and keep the Hypnos Gene at 300CP.
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>>55840413
Awesome, Thank you.
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>>55840413
You don't need to lower the price of Hypnos Gene if it's still got its boosts.

Also, you are a wonderful person, but if it really bothers you that much, you don't have to do this.
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>>55840413
I just want you to know whatever your decision I support it.
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>>55840413
>Giving in to the shitposters
Weakling.
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>>55840413
I just want you to know that if you're frustrated right now, you can take a break from the thread at any time and think about whether you want to do this or not.
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>>55840413
You were literally just starting to get support if >>55840198 >>55840187 and >>55839988 are anything to judge by, and I believed in your decision too because you said you felt it was the right idea. Do you literally just do whatever people say as long as they're a total dick about it while ignoring everything supportive?
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Why do any of you give a fuck?
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>>55840395
...That .gif amuses me.
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>>55840395
Hey Val, would Nega-Genesis do anything post-jump (i.e. offer resistance against something other than Noble Phantasms)?
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>>55840464
>>55840458
Do ya'll take shifts or something? It feels like every other time Red posts someone responds just to tell her how amazing and great she is.
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>>55840498
Literally the same argument your opposition was making but in the other direction.
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>>55840510
BECAUSE WE CARE
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>>55840436
>>55840458
>>55840464
>>55840479
>>55840497
>>55840498
>>55840517
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>>55840524
Whatever. It's done, I did what people asked. Can we move the fuck on?
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>>55840512
It's one of my faves, yeah.

>>55840514
Work against similar things to NPs?
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>>55840531
No.
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>>55840517
No one who argues with Red about anything wants her to feel like they don't actually care about the result, because that's how the shitposter operates.
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>>55840395
Where is that gif from? All google gave me was 'person' and half of iqdb was saber.
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>>55840498
On the contrary, why should she only listen to people who agree with her? There are plenty of people who gave criticism without being total dicks, quit trying to force this false dichotomy.
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Is it unethical to create first circle demons for the express purpose of using them for that one perk in Exalted: Mortals?

By that I mean that I want to create a race of first circle demons, "as far below the jumper as a Mortal child is from a Deathlord", for the express purpose of having them store Resonance/Limit/Black Magic (with the charm from "Thrown down a Flint Canyon"), then explode, thus dissipating the stored contents.

Is this unethical?
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>>55840561
looks like konosuba
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She always gives in, sooner or later.

You just need to keep up the pressure.
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>>55840564
Can they feel things?
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>>55840561
Konosuba, it's Aqua showing her feelings towards a naked Kazuma.
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>>55840531
Yes. Which do you like more, pasta or lasagna?
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>>55837043
Fuck you Rubilocks is best girl!
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>>55840531
Okay. I have a question about BC? Is it possible to get a continuity drawback for if you had been in 40K before?
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>>55840395
>point it out
Weighing Myself Down.

And figures you'd brush off criticism of your OC "interpretations" (read: supernatural upgrades) by saying "muh other jumps do it". Remember when Cataquack and Record tried to use "precedent" to justify omnipotent wishes and infinite-CP time extension "drawbacks"? Gee, I sure don't. /s
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>>55840578
>>55840588
Thanks you two, makes me wonder why she is in his harem then if it was like that.
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>>55840559
Implying that anyone who argues with Red is a shitposter just makes you really obvious.
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>>55837407
every jump on the drive other than hellblazer is better than Ghostbusters even I'm ashamed of having made Ghostbusters
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>>55840586
Preferably they would be non-sentient, but i'm not certain if that's possible with the demon creating perk in Infernals.
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I wish capstone boosters would go away, or at least only show up in places that really suit them. They tie up too much CP.
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>>55840395
LITTLE
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>>55840396
I am not quite sure, I'll probably do a couple more of these. This one looked interesting to me and it had Iksander who is one of my favorite servants so I was definitely going to do it. There are some other interesting events and some servants I would like to pick up in the other ones so I'll probably do those.
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>>55840531
Consider that this is the result of you coming back.
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>>55840660
Just wondering since there are so many you might just work yourself to the bone if you were to write for them all.
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>>55837005

This was missing something
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>>55840606
Fucked if I know.

>>55840686
Yes yes, I know. Been replaced, don't need me anymore, whatever. Consider that no one's willing to do anything and when I tried to pass BC off before, I got told to fuck off.
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>>55840617
Weighing is just based on what the MC and others do in series, expanded.

Neither of them have hundreds of other jumps doing the same thing as justification. Even the tiny handful they did have, at least for Cataquack, were very different from what they claimed they were.

Or do you really think everything in every other jump is based on something exactly the same as what is present in canon?

>>55840621
She's not, actually. They're just friends. It's Megumin and Darkness that are romantically interested in him.
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>>55840395
>really obvious with your goals here
What are those, for the brainlets in the room?
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>>55839706
I wanna request a few 50 CP Items/Perks, because right now you can end up with 50 spare CP if you choose your age/sex, or import an odd number of companions.

I also don't like the age roll making you an average of 32 years old, but I'm not going to complain about that.
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>>55840621
She’s not. They’re like brother & sister, he even sniffed her hair, felt nothing when he was doing his patter-patter in the barn. She’s wiggled her butt at him but she was just joking.
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>>55840069
If you do, plz let us also take Wilhelm's waifu. She was his only positive influence.
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>>55840703
See >>55840362 .
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>>55840716
Using certain sorts of language to give a perception of greatly exaggerated power. Things like conceptual, common power wank terms, to make something seem really broken.

For example of how it works- imagine you have a perk that lets you tell how someone lies. "You're always aware of when someone tells a fib to you, even if they're a master rusemaster". Normal if short description. But describing it as a conceptual ability to always know when someone is lying...it gives a sense that it is more powerful than it really is, even if conceptual makes no sense for the actual effect. In this case, describing the lying detection as conceptual makes no sense because there's no concept here. Because in the powerwank/vs battle communities, conceptual generally is translated to 'absolute' instead.

Basically he's saying conceptual to make it seem like the perks are more powerful than they are.

>>55840723
Yeah, I always forget that. Honestly, tempting to just make the imports 100 instead sometimes. I'll try and think something up to pop in.

Eh, fitting in series.
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>>55840703
Who did you try to pass BC off to?
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I'm just waiting for Monogatari.
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>>55840819
Does it really matter? It was denied, so there's no point to saying it. The point is unless one of you picks it up, you're stuck with it being the way it is.

>>55840779
>>55840362
Let me guess, I missed a hundred ways that I'm inferior.
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Did Red.exe finally crashed?
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>>55840729
Reminder that, despite looking like a loli, Cuss is thousands to tens of thousands times older than you unless you've been abusing the heck out of time extension drawbacks.

Also, if you don't change canon, she's going to need a hug really badly.
Super when?
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>>55840851
Red, you sound really tired, you really should take a break.
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>>55840851
Was it Val? Did you finally give up on competing with her?
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>>55840704
Would you have to be a scummy guy to get Darkness to like you?

>>55840885
Poor girl.
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>>55840851
Red, pretty sure they were just curious if you had read the threads you missed while you were gone. Because a lot of stuff happened. New jumps came out, we had a variety of different discussions, and we also had Candlejack come to visit. Oh, no wait, you were there for tha
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So... I kinda want to import Shin Godzilla as an Evangelion because I really like this design... but I feel like that is a really, really awful thing to do. Think I could fanwank the EVA armor as some kind of limiter on his power or something, that keeps him from constantly suffering and exploding? I don't really see any other way around that :/
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>>55840851
Not them, but the thread stood by as Val tried to replace the JJBA jump and made dirge delete his drive. It's been on a downward spiral since you've gone, and has given no indication of slowing down.
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>>55840911
Well, probably at least a little. She can still be friends with you if you're not but moving on will require at least a little scum.
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>>55840851
Just ignore them Red.
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>>55840687
Alright, well I am probably not going to be doing them back to back either. I'll do them between jumps so I don't burn out on them.
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>>55840943
Ah alright then, good luck with the rest of your jumps.
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>>55840851
A gentle reminder, there's a reason you're still here, and it's not shitposting.
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>>55840531
I've posed the same question to you several times over original content being necessary to avoid unnatural carbon copies of people and things. Why do you ignore this reasonable observation?
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>>55840911
The thing is that Darkness is the ultimate M. Any form of suffering or anguish is translated as pleasure for her. She still has noble goals, generally tries to do good things and can be embarrassed, but there's nothing she'd love more than suffering a bad end and she doesn't really hide this fact.
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>>55840922
No, that's boring.

Just drop him down as-is in the setting and let him be a metaphor for something like solving your problems with a quick-fix that's ultimately more damaging in the long run.

Let him start evolving, see how he responds to Angels.
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>>55840142
I have some questions about the ancestor powers in the Petals Of Reincarnation jump:

* how much ammunition/fuel do the summonable weapons come with (or do they "run" on stamina too)?

* can the weapons be dismissed afterwards? do they stick around or disappear otherwise ("it looks like he was shot, only we can't find any bullet fragments")?

* when using Simo's White Hell on a target, are you also putting yourself in that pocket dimension (otherwise it'd be hard to hunt them)?

* for Rudel's power, do we have to worry about about the recoil of e.g. a Spitfire's autocannon hurling us backwards if we don't brace ourselves or has rule of cool mugged physics?

* also for Rudel, does the opposing force only apply to physics (e.g. kinetic and thermal effects or Newton's gravity powers) or would it also protect from stuff like contact poisons or sleeping gas? What about esoteric effects like Einstein's telefrag powers?

* For Schrodinger's power, it looks like you can dictate not only the outcome of your own actions but also what actions other people and/or the environment take (because standing still and letting an entire firing squad shoot at you and yet they miss, a hundred times? about as likely that they'd instead be struck by lightning or all turn and shoot their CO).

Thankyou for the jump.
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>>55840922
Why not just build the armor for him yourself? You could buy the Specialist Capstone and use that to make the armor, or use engineering perks from other jumps, anything besides turning Shin Godzilla into a fucking Evangelion. I mean, the description itself tells you it's a terrible idea, that should be a clear sign NOT to do it.
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>>55840971
>Darkness loves suffering
>Therefore, the cruelest thing you can do to her would be to not inflict any pain on her
>Thus causing her to suffer
Guys, I think I solved it.
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>>55841007
I feel like throwing her at TED would be quite cruel. Or would she like that?
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>>55840983
Could he evolve to pierce AT-Fields or do I give him Longinus?
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>>55841007
She doesn't seem to get off on denial though. Teasing her by holding punishment forever out of her reach would probably be more frustrating than anything.
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>>55840885
What's Cuss from?
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>>55840986
1. As much as needed.

2. They disappear if they get too far from you or when not needed.

3. You are putting yourself in too.

4. Nah, seems like recoil isn't an issue for him.

5. It seems like any attack, given how he describes it. I'd say that things like gas would really rapidly drain your stamina though and it'd still be possible to kill you as if you were accelerator, such as by just removing all the air around you instead of directly attacking you. Eintein's stuff should be countered too.

6. Not so much what other people do as how their actions pan out. You can't make them choose to not shoot you, you can make it so their bullets all miss somehow.

Anytime.

>>55841007
She kinda just gets angry if teased with denial too much. Got really sulky when Kazuma did the same.
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>>55840377

Thanks for the help.

3. So basically the costs should probably be relatively the same as well?

5. On a side note I was considering importing Gudako into the Protagonist background if the answer was yes. Which would have probably been a horrible idea.

6. That actually sound really amusing. Like I'm imaging King Hassan being so disappointed they decided to check an entirely different timeline, and decided a Grand or Beast was the best choice.

8. It's mostly that I'm not sure if Goetia actually would have burned that far back or not.

9. To clarify I also meant without stuff like anti-fate perks.

Oh also I remembered a few other questions I had.

1. Would an Taijitu A+ be enough to get both the B and A ranked effects (their the opposite), or would you need an EX?

2. Can Grand and/or Beast cp be used to buy Pseudo Servant?

3. Is Connection to the Root an allowed skill? If so would it be a wishcraft variant like the 'wish granting machine' part implies, or just a general capability increase like the 'regular parameters become meaningless' and the game mechanics imply?

4. Actually in general when it comes to Grand Order skills should the game mechanics be completely ignored, or used as a guideline for when the fluff is too tricky?
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>>55840971
>she'd love more than suffering a bad end
>villain Jumpers' face when
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>>55841031
He definitely could. He's implied to evolve into some interplanetary eldritch monstrosity and then a GOD within a relatively short time.
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>>55841065
3. Relatively, yeah.

5. Pft.

6. He accepts nothing but the best.

8. I assume so, given his goals.


1. You'd need to get to A+++ for both, I'd say.

2. Eeeeeeh, sure. Bit of a waste though.

3. Mmmm, it would but it'd be like gameplay stuff, not whatever crazy lore stuff it implies.

4. The latter I think is the best idea. If the skill is detailed enough, go with that, but otherwise use gameplay to figure out what sort of thigns it's meant to do.
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In regards to the Fate Servant Supplement, what does a plus or minus do to Skills and Noble Phantasms?
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>>55841136
Makes em better.
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>>55840922
Why don't you become an EVA and let Godzilla pilot you?
Also how intelligent is Shin?
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>>55841136
The supplement lists what they do. Read the instructions. They double or half the effectiveness of the rank. So if you say C rank whatever has a rating of 30, a C- would be 15 and a C+ would be 60 while a C++ would be 90.
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>>55841129
Does that mean all three +++ would go to getting the B effect from A?
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>>55841202
He's apparently got feelings, ambition and is aware enough to understand the concept of suffering via horrible, horrible pain due to radiation based problems.
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>>55841202
>Also how intelligent is Shin?
Purely instinct driven.
And those instincts are kinda shot, due to all the radiation and being an eternally suffering mockery of life. He didn't seem to have any kind of reason for wandering into the middle of Tokyo, he just did it.

That said, it's totally conceivable that he could evolve intelligence if provided the right stimulus.
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>>55841228
Yes.
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>Hellstar Remina
>Don't want to take the jump unless I'm strong enough to just blow Remina up with a Kamehameha
>'Cause, you know, a lot of people are going to die
>But, if you can easily blow Remina up, then the jump is short and boring
I don't know what to do.
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>>55841216
No.
>This Scale only applies to Statistics, it does not apply to Skills or Noble Phantasms.
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>>55841031
His focused atomic breath would probably stand a fair chance being a powerful energy weapon. He'd definitely need to evolve further to keep up with most Angels speed and mobility wise though.
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>>55841299
Share your power and train up some young heroes, maybe even the Remina girl who the hellstar was named after and is getting blamed for bringing it there.
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Can I see some Eva builds?
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>>55841389
You arrive hours before Remina OM NOM NOMs Earth though.

>>55841299
That being said, here's an idea: gain just enough power so you can beat Hellstar Remina, but have it still be a challenge. Use perks that let you force the Hellstar to focus entirely on you. Use perks that prevent collateral damage to keep Earth from being damaged/destroyed/eaten in the fight. Fight Hellstar Remina in an epic battle, before obliterating it.

Also save Remina and her dad from the crazies on Earth before you fight the Hellstar.
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>>55839706
You might wanna look at the you snooze you wine boost's text.
>The higher it can be is refraining from fighting for 24 hours straight, in which case your powers will increased twenty times over.
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>>55841464
>You arrive hours before Remina OM NOM NOMs Earth though.
I mean if you have enough power for a kamehama you should have some sort of psuedo hyperbolic time chamber or time control perks so you could make Remina freeze while letting them get some training in or whatever.
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>>55839706
>Pulling Powers out of Her Ass
I want to find combat applications for this, but I keep coming back to using it for immature pranks and lewd purposes.
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>>55841491
...wow, that came out messily. Thanks anon, I'll fix that.
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Why do all of you have to post so fucking much, this thread has been up around 5 hours and it's at 600 posts.
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>>55841503
Fitting for the name then.
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>>55841514
We're spazzes
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>>55841514
>Why do all of you have to post so fucking much
I have to say, this is a really odd complaint.
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>>55841299
There's still a lot to do even if you vaporise Remina in the first ten minutes:

* when jumper arrives, the hellstar had already eaten some of the outer planets including Saturn and was heading for jupiter next

* losing neptune/uranus/saturn via the hellstar eating them will be gravitationally destabilising to the solar system's various remaining orbital paths, and puts Earth at increased risk of meteors

* by this point the hellstar's madness aura/field/wtf has already driven a chunk of the world's population insane, so there'll be plenty of cultists and nutjobs to root out

* even without the cultists and nutjobs, the Earth seems to have (at least) the usual corruption and crime going on, and the political aftershocks of "planet almost got eaten until jumper saved us" are sure to be interesting if you care about that

* the wormhole sixteen lightyears away is still there, and there might be more hellstars on the other side... and it might not be the only wormhole, too...
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>>55841514
My autism is stronger then yours.
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>>55841494
I wouldn't bet on freezing Remina via time shenanigans, it's an eldritch lovecraftian horror that's already demonstrated acausal ability (seeing the scientist watching it despite being some sixteen lightyears in the past)
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>>55838526
He started up after the MGE shitposter. So yeah, 3 years.
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>>55841392

Neon Genesis Evangelion
Origin: Pilot (100cp)

Perks
Synchronization
Target Center, Pull the Switch (100cp)
Flat Effect (100cp)
Combat Training (100cp)
Natural Aptitude (200cp)
Metaphysical Biology, PhD (400cp)

Gear
Good Threads
Plug Suit
Evangelion
Magoroku Exterminate Sword, High Energy Reaction
An Evangelion Import (400cp)
Advanced AT Field Functions - Flight, Cutting, Lifting, Finesse
Secondary Field
A Different Branch

Drawbacks
Neuroses
You’re So Fucked Up (+200cp)
You I, II, and III (+200cp)

I'm one of those hipsters that doesn't like taking popular Perks, so I skipped out on all the Pattern Blue stuff or whatever. The stuff that makes you like an Angel and combines your Mind, Body, and Soul.

I've got some Luck Manipulation, so I decided that Imported EVA was able to gain an S2 Organ by eating an enemy Angel after I used Luck Manipulation to force the odds in my favour.

Also, I Imported Abraxas (Denizen from Sburb) as my EVA. We got into an argument the Jump before about the meaning of Hope, and out of spite I decided to Import him as an EVA. This, OBVIOUSLY, turned out to be a bad idea. We've come to an accord, but back then he would often try to force 400%+ Sync by aligning his thoughts with my own, effectively putting me on a time limit even with access to the S2 Organ. He(it?)'s since become my primary Mecha.

As for the actual events that took place during the Jump, my Messiah Complex pushed me to establish what was effectively a Personality Cult for myself, complete with blood sacrifices and jihad all that. I managed to defeat the Angels and prevent Third Impact, but I still had to spend the rest of the Jump dealing with a bunch of False Idols trying to usurp my Cult and create a Holy War.

But goddamn do I love EVA designs.
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>>55841299
You still have to deal with the army of one and those fuckos creep me out more than Remina could
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>>55841646
What is that?
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What uncap style perks do we have other than the ones from Elona, Gamer, and Obsidian Tower?
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>>55841697
https://imgur.com/gallery/juapW
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>>55841299
Let's be real here; this is a Junji Ito manga. By the time the Hellstar shows up basically everybody on the planet deserves it except for like half a dozen people who survive the planet's destruction.
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It's spooky season, /jc/. What kind of monster are you?
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>>55841712
Wow that is terrible.
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>>55838652
Ketchup is always an abomination.
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>>55841766
The most frightening monsters look like anybody else.
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>>55841520
Hey Val, thanks a lot for answering our questions. Since your jumps are so popular, it must be hard getting so many requests for rulings.
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>>55841775
Aw c'mon, it can't be /that/ bad on fries.
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>>55841766
I'm the Master of the Assassin of Black.
I think that qualifies me as a monster.
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>>55841766
I prefer the form of the gentleman skeleton, though I also enjoy taking on a ghostly form or being a fire elemental.
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>>55841800
Mayo is best on fries.
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I fucking hate Anime. Is there anything worth making jumps of from the last few seasons?
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>>55841042
You could probably get her into it with enough work but it would take some doing.
Darkness is the "vibrators hidden under her clothing while she's forced to go act normal in front of her friend despite riding a constant wave of orgasms while some fat guy blackmails her hentai" type of girl not the "Fat guy pulls out denying her even the orgasm until she begs for it to the point she'll do anything for him hentai" kind.
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>>55841766
I AM NO MONSTER! I AM A KING!
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>>55841818
Why not a ghostly gentleman skeleton that's on fire?
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>>55841818
Stick em up! This is a boneyard robbery from the great graverobber Golden Skull!
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>>55841858
My God, anon, you're a genius.
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>>55841129

6. Actually just checking. If you complete the tutor the Assassins path as a Grand or Beast are your versions of their stuff at the normal level, or Grand/Beast level?

8. The issues that well on one hand it makes sense that they would do so. However on the other Sefar's invasion still occurred and their bullshit enough that I'm not sure if Goetia would have taken the risk of that ruining their plans.

I also can't help but imagine this occurring if they tried burning that far back.

>Goetia - "Right things are set up. Now time to activate Ars Almadel Salomonis."
>Meanwhile in the past Sefar grows even more nonsensically powerful, and fires their stolen laser beam at the ring of light shattering it before continuing their rampage.
>Goetia - "That was not supposed to happen."

1. I'm guessing that's because of the increased versatility compared to only being able to transfer it one way.

2. Probably, but it would let companions gained from that scenario get stuff from the jump.

3. Basically less 'Ilya', and more 'You have a natural talent at stuff'? At least that's what I'm assuming the command card performance increase would count as.

I have two more questions, but these should be the last ones.

1. With the Grand Scenario are there any guideline for how to handle the fact that their are more implied Beast candidates than actual slots for them? At least assuming no other case of 'There are actually two of this Beast Number' like the third was. Which might be a bad assumption to make.

2. Assuming you can afford them would a non-Beast variant of a character that is a Beast but doesn't have a canon normal Servant variant be a valid Servant?
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>>55841858
>>55841879
>>55841882
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This is getting too spooky for me,
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>>55841766
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>>55841934
Bancho, why did you post an image of Ferrus Manus?
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>>55841766
Always liked Witches, myself, but I'm willing to adapt.

>>55841798
Just part of the job. Appreciate the appreciation though anon!

>>55841899
6. Normal level.

8. Nah, they'll generally work together okay. Not perfectly but they're not going to sabotage or get in each other's way.

1. No, it was just stacking a separate B ranked thing onto an A ranked thing.

2. That's alright.

3. Probably.

1. You don't need to assume any more than the standard number are present. So the two variations of III will be there, but you don't need to worry about extras of other numbers appearing unless GO changes things up.

They would be banned from taking anything they had as a Beast that no one else had and be far less powerful in terms of stats, NPs and general abilities, but that should otherwise work.
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>>55841832
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>>55841954
because that's the kind of monster I am also based show but not everything has to be a reference.
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>>55841833
Of the few anime I know from this season and before Made in abyss, Gintama, Black clover (if you like shit), UQ holder, LWA, and Kino are worth making into jumps thought the latter three are already claimed.
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>>55841961
>pic
That one guy on the right looks so jealous.
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>>55841977
Who's making Little Witch Academia?
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>>55841995
If memory serves me right I think it was Rose, could be wrong though
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>>55841965
Yes, quite serious.
Forget about her appearance for a moment and just look at what she can do. Now, what does it say about someone that they would want The Mist or Maria the Ripper?
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Is Shiki, as in Ryougi Shiki, a good waifu?
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>>55841965
Obviously my serial killer tendencies came out over here >>55842040
Where were we? Ah, right. Mayo.
It goes on fries. Tastes better than ketchup. Also less likely to be confused for blood (or confuse blood for ketchup for that matter - Always a problem if you're eating fries near a battlefield.)
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>>55842040
Anon, you appear to have bamboozled yourself.
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>>55841977
Made in Abyss was also claimed.
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>>55840885
Reminder that the best way to win her heart is by being a good guy and beating up evil.
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>>55841832
Care to elaborate?
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>>55841977
>Gintama jump never
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>>55836402
Mordred doesn't want to be a boy so much as she wants to want to be a boy. She hates being treated as a man as much as being treated as a girl. She's twisted herself into this mindset that she needs to be like her father's son to serve as a proper heir and it makes her crazy.
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>>55841977
Who´s doing UQ holder?
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>>55842224
Think Val claimed it.
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>>55841278
That doesn't seem right. It costs 200 to just buy the skill again at B rank, but 300 just to upgrade the skill for the same thing?
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>>55842224
It was Val. And unlike the above example where there were allegedly "hundreds" of examples of "precedent" for her to use, she's using an SB jump to justify giving out complete immortality. Of the "not even powerful reality warpers can even think to harm you" variety.
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>>55840413
>>55840531
While I'm relieved that you're not removing the capstone booster, I don't understand why you'd drop the price. 500cp forces people to dip into drawbacks or miss out on part of their Origin's perk tree. And that's before we get into items.
>>55840703
>>55840851
You seem tired. Feeling sorry for yourself won't make you feel better. It's a self-feeding cycle that leaves you more miserable than when you started and drains all your energy and productivity.
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So I have a question about multiple companions that take up a single slot. If you import them how exactly does purchasing perks for them work. Do they receive the perk divided among themselves but watered down or do you just divide the points among them and buy perks individually? Also Can you split them up by importing them individually?
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>>55842290
Expect, you know, that being a complete lie.
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>>55842308
As it was pointed out, more is better. Might as well let people have more.
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>>55842310
The first.
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>>55842290
An SB jump you made no complaint about being accepted here and a non SB jump that does the same thing and was also accepted.
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>>55841766
Mad Scientist
Only every season is spooky season.
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>>55842330
Yeah, but that was about how you were removing what was already there. Nobody asked for a price decrease, we just wanted you to not change anything.
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>>55842290
Could you wait until a wip is posted before you try and start shit?
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>>55842316
What about it was a lie, anon? It's hardly a complete lie, at least.

Val claimed it. When asked, Val has stated she would offer said immortality at a steep price. The person who has it was cursed by God, and implied to be completely unharmable by anyone short of that. Val likes to extrapolate abilities that haven't demonstrated limits to their maximum interpretation, even when they haven't been implied to be limitless, just that they haven't been shown. And this has. She also used Digimon and PKB to justify it.

Indeed, it seems like literally nothing in my post was a lie at all, let alone a "complete" one.
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>>55842290
It's hard to not agree with Val's opinions about you when you keep attacking her for things you don't bring up at all for other jumpmakers. That 'SB jump' you're talking about was accepted here. Digimon Adventure was accepted here. No one did anything even when the immortality problems were brought up several times and they were only brought up days after it came out too.
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>>55842330
You're sort of going way in the other direction now.
Trust me when I say that you'll regret doing it later.
All that people wanted was to keep the thing that had been in the jump for ages the same as it was.
No one was looking for a lower price.
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>>55842381
Tell us what limits have been implied for it then.
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>>55842399
The point is, they haven't. And Val doesn't like to impose them. Despite that, she's said it'd be offered.

I rest my case.
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>>55842419
What if they are never implied?
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>>55842310
Usually the mechanics are mentioned within the option. All the ones I've seen have them get the benefits of perks and rewards and stuff spread out evenly. Usually you can't import them on their own but I think certain one like the Sisters of Battle or whatever they're called from LoT and Darkest Dungeon crew potentially can.
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>>55842419
What case are you even making? That she's not adding non canon limitations? That seems good to me. It's been done in several other jumps that no one took issue with and it fits the series canon.

What exactly is your problem, beyond it being Val making this?
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>>55842393
>No one was looking for a lower price.

Hahahahaha bullshit.
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>>55842393
It's too late, anon. She's packing her bags, so to speak. This was the final straw, she's hanging up her trip and probably leaving. Maybe you people should have tried being less toxic bags of refuse.
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>>55842449
lmao whatever you say dumbass
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Where can I get me some magic books?

Just about ready to bet my grimoir on in NieR, looking fot potential import candidates.
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>>55841961

8. Just incase you forgot Sefar isn't a Beast it's an alien super weapon made by Nasuverse Reapers.

1. I'm fine with it being A+++, but the extra 100 cp cost does seem a little confusing. Also I just
realized something. Is this assuming the same 'effectiveness' as both canon versions as well as the same effects, or just the same effects?

For the Beast question I was less concerned about the number of Beasts, and more if you had any guidelines on how to determine which characters take those slots.

>>55842060

Assuming her personality is anything like canon that depends on two things.

1. Is your idea of a good waifu someone with (or that had) multiple personalities (one of which is a boy), that has an innate desire to murder everything, but that's usually active personalities hates that they have that desire, and that whose not usually active personality is perpetually depressed and finds omnipotence to be stupid and boring?

2. Is your idea of a good waifu the kind of person that's idea of a good husbando is a
completely ordinary people that would turn down ultimate power?

Like without either a lot of work or some kind of
personality alteration stuff she'd probably consider the whole jumper thing a major turn off.
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>>55842381
Except it was a complete lie, because you are actually misrepresenting the situation on a fundamental level, starting with lying about the ability itself in the source material, then with lying about the context of Val offering it, then with miss representing your own argument as if you've somehow made a point which you demonstrably haven't.

You haven't just lied to us, you have lied to yourself.

You are not even a liar; you are a lie. Everything about you is a falsehood told to itself and repeated to others. You aren't real and you never were.

Your very existence is a lie.
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Jumpers. do your Noble Phantasms have fancy long names like the ones in canon?
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>>55842448
No one asked for it at a lower price at any point.
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>>55842448
Show me a single post asking for the Hypnos Gene to stay the same and have the price lowered.
>>55842449
Fuck off. Everyone was being polite, myself included.
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>>55842364
>>55842393
I really cannot fucking care anymore.
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>>55842472
Ugh, right, Extella.

Same effectiveness, yeah.

Oh. Well, the canon ones and then it's up to you for fittingly strong ones.
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>>55842504
Go to sleep nigga
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>>55841552
How is it odd? When you all post so much I have to scroll through all of it. It wastes hours of my time with inane nonsense.
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>>55842504
Red. Take the advice you were given earlier, please. Just go to sleep, get some rest, and if you want we can all talk about this tomorrow. Right now, you're exhausting yourself, and it's not good. I know that shit like this can be frustrating sometimes, so just take step back, relax, get a good night's rest, and you'll feel better.
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>>55842504
Then you need to sleep.
Recharge, get your wits about you, and come back when your ready.
Despite what the shit golems may screech, this place would suffer without you.
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>>55841800
It tastes like someone put syrup in cheap tomato sauce.
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>>55842504
Red, you need a break. Go cuddle with a puppy or something.
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>>55842067
It looks more like semen though. Blood > Semen.
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>>55842504
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>>55842290
Why can't the Army of One take you and stitch you to your own ass?
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>Not turning into Gurren Lagann and drilling Remilla to death while shouting out hot blooded speeches.

Its like you guys aren't even Shonen Protagonists.
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>>55842500
They will, once I figure them out. I was going to call one "All-Encompassing Cosmic Rhythm Understanding" and have it be a passive form of Precog, but I'm not super committed to the concept. The only other one I've figured out is my "Hasta Apollonis", which is the A-Rank NP I gained from the Festival of Fitness F/GO Scenario.

I've got like 10+ Knight Arms from that one Perk from Angel Notes, so I've got quite a few that need naming.
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>>55842060
She gets off on you using your magic powers to compel her to do things.
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>>55842060
Grab Mikiya instead
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>>55842308
>Sorry
>Bring the argument back up to start shit again
Don't lie.
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>>55842480
So the shitposter is the avatar of the Ebon Dragon. And not that weirdo who pretends to be the Ebon Dragon to harass Tera, I mean the actual one.
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>>55842578
>Not being a big brother figure to Remina, promising to protect her smile, and then destroying the Hellstar and all the monsters on its' surface with your bare fists because they dared to make her cry
Do you even Asura, anon?
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>>55842504

<<GIB CLAY TO BELKA>>
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>>55842467
Marvel Magic has the Spellbooks collection, the Book of Vishanti and its opposite the Darkhold.
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>>55842519

>Ugh, right, Extella.

Unfortunately unless Goddess Lancer Arthuria was wrong it occurred in Grand Order's past as well.

>Same effectiveness, yeah.

What would the cost be if you just wanted the effects, but are okay with lowering their effectiveness?

Yeah I'm aware that's a rather vague question, but it was the best way I could think of for asking it.
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>>55842435
That she's even considering offering something which breaks one of the major tenets of Jumpchain. Despite the powercreep, absolute immortality is still ridiculous.

>>55842480
Val saying she'll offer it and her "justifications" thereof:
>http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/55617178/#55620025
>http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/55617178/#55620154
Alright, I was wrong. She'll "most likely" offer it. But when has reasonable prior concern (i.e. this conversation and the previous involving that option) ever dissuaded Val from offering something ridiculous?

What it does:
http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/55617178/#55620114
Admittedly a wiki, but yes what little we've seen of it indicates this to be the case.

Anon, I'm afraid I'm not seeing where I've lied? Care to point it out, this time with evidence?
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What's a good omnilingua perk?
I need to be able to speak and read in more languages than I have the time or attention to devote to the task.
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>>55842145

>She's twisted herself into this mindset that she needs to be like her father's son to serve as a proper heir and it makes her crazy.

So what your saying is that Mordred should be treated like a helpful but terrifying dragon?
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>>55842739
>He still doesn't know how to link to threads that are still on site
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>>55842746
Check out Overlord and Jojo's Bizarre Adventure. Those both have perks that can help with languages.
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>>55842578
>drilling Remilla
Hell yeah motherfucker.
>to death
Nah man, too far.
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>>55842796
Pedo scum.
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>>55842764
Mordred should be slowly coached into accepting that she's a woman while remaining a cute tomboy, instead of trying to be transexual when she's not and when it's tearing her up inside.
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>>55842796
She does have some pretty big lips....
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>>55842739
>"justifications"
Your recent "mannerisms" make it really obvious "who" you are.
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>>55834689

>Proof that Exalted Lore makes very little sense.

> >Ebon Dragon is ultimate coward.
> >To further prove he is the ultimate coward he makes the closest to perfect being to contrast him to make him look more the coward and to aid him in doing cowardice acts.
> >In doing so he made his greatest enemy which the ultimate coward would never do at any cost because he would be to scared of risking a confrontation. In doing so it proves he is not the ultimate coward.

He thinks he is a coward, but he actually isn't?
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>>55842810
>10,000 year old vampire
>A child
>A youkai
>Human
>A cartoon
>Real
Wrong board for people who can't separate fiction from reality, or even tell what the fictional being is.

>>55842835
Maybe you can fit your dick replacement ship in there.
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>>55842856
His primordial concept is basically as I understand it that all four virtues. Yeah he has the opposite of that and is as far on the other end as possible.

One of those virtues is Valor which would mean he is like the worst coward (In lore anyways)
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>>55842796
Ravioli Ravioli Don't Fuck The Vampire Loli.
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>>55842835
That's Remina, nigga. But then that anon seems to be talking about Remillia. So, who is this mystery woman, I wonder?
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Who should I take as a companion in Fate Zero? No one in the cast seems even remotely likable, but I'm set on taking somebody as a Companion.
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>>55842906
Excuse me pardner but this is Gil-town, you either take the pretty boy or you mosey on out of here
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>>55842906
Bro it up with Iskander.
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>>55842906
Waver is a nice choice. He is smart, a decent mage, relatively reasonable and likes videogames
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>>55842728
Indeed.

Probably lower? It depends on how much effectiveness you lose out on.

>>55842739
I fail to see how you can honestly complain about this when two jumps are on the drive already that effectively do this. Not SB's drive. Our drive. And for a shit load cheaper than what this option will be worth if I do put it in.

If you want to be taken seriously, at least make an argument that doesn't fall apart in an instant. IN the meantime, your concern is clearly a false pretense to cover up your real intentions.

If you want anyone to listen to you at all, address the issues of PKH and DA first.
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>>55842914
>>55842923
You can take Servants as companions?
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>>55842894
Ravioli Ravioli I do what I want nigga.

>>55842901
10,000 year old vampire loli from Touhou. She owns the Scarlet Devil Mansion along with her sister Flandre. Flandre didn't take to becoming a vampire well and is stuck in the mindset of a child, but Remina took better and managed to grow up mentally despite her body. Plus because of the mindset Flandre can't handle her powers or properly understand things like death so she's dangerous and Remilia keeps her in the basement locked away.
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>>55842939
If you are a master you kind of get one automatically (IIRC)
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>>55842936
What do you think about Strange Fake?
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>>55842500
No. I'm bad at naming shit.

Whenever I try to think of something cool, I end up with chunneedge shit like "Tehom: Carved Darkness of a Stillborn Creation", or "Nothingnessless: As Before, Hereafter", or "Nagrarok: The False Twilight".

It's so freaking annoying.
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>>55842949
Nah, that's Remillia. Gurren dude was talking about Remilla.
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>>55842957
Hrmmm. Conflicted for the most part. I used to dislike it overall but I've come to be fond of it for a bunch of parts in it and cool things it does. I do still have a heavy dislike of certain things, the Hassan in Strange Fake is just insultingly stupid for example.

Overall I'd say that I probably like it more than I dislike it and that I'm interested in how I'm going to make the jump.
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>>55842965
To be honest those are pretty good. What's your Jumper like? I could see myself using those in a sort of tongue-in-cheek manner.
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>>55842906
Depends on your tastes.
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>>55842939
Yeah. Why do you pay CP for them?
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>>55843032
>>55842956
I'm talking about the Canon Companion option.
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>>55843049
You need to adopt Sakura. Do it. She needs a home. Tokiomi won't take her.
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>>55842936
You know what else is on the drive? Patch Notes. Mystic Eyes of Death Perception. Razzle Dazzle.

Something being on the drive is not a good excuse to offer blatantly inappropriate or OTB bullshit, and if those jumps were released today, I doubt they would have made it onto the drive in the same state.
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>>55842500
I try to think of cool names for every NP I make but everything I think about doing is too edgy. I am somewhat proud of the name "Juliet's Deceptive Sleep" for literally no reason, however.
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>>55842936

>Indeed.

Although I just realized that Goetia's help is probably solving that problem. Assuming it isn't leaving it until it reverses time.

>Probably lower? It depends on how much effectiveness you lose out on.

What if their at the combined average instead of being added together?
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>>55842906
Most people would suggest you take loli Sakura and Rin so Sakura especially doesn't experience what she does in canon.
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*sigh*

Does it ever end?
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>>55843098
Mystic Eyes of Death Perception aren't even that impressive now. They caused a shitstorm back then because of different power standards.
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>>55843079
To be honest, I forgot child Sakura was an option.

That all said, I'm honestly more tempted to just do the OC import option since Canon Companions get no CP.
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>>55843147
He eat own ass.
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>>55843100
Hey NikaMoth, got a question for you, well actually a few questions. How does the Seal perk from Wadanohara work? Is there a limit on how powerful a being we can seal away? And could anyone escape the seal without outside help?
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>>55843148
They weren't that impressive back then, people were just idiots who couldn't do the research and just regurgitated the hyped up memes of how strong they were.
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>>55843098
Just let it go, anon. You're not accomplishing anything.
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>>55843177
That's exactly why he can't let it go. If he let go of his hatred of us, he'd have to admit that he's spent literal years and ruined his entire life just to spite people on the internet.
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>>55843098
And unfortunately, people like you make me cease to really care.

You see, I'd agree with that if the two examples in this case had any argument about them at all. But they didn't. No one cared. It got pointed out multiple times, a small number of people nodded heads that it seemed too much and then never mentioned it after 5 minutes. And Digimon's one didn't even get that.

People don't care. They didn't care then. They didn't care the half dozen times it got brought up since. And I'm sorry but, if they only start caring when I start to work on a jump, I'm not going to care either. If you want me to follow a rule, I'm happy to. I'm happy to do my best to enforce those rules too and advise others to do the same. I'll even do so at cost to my own reputation, even if I personally disagree with some rules of the community. But I'm not going to accept a single rule for myself and a different rule for others. I definitely won't when it seems to be just because I'm well known.

>>55843118
So what, basically halved in effect?
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>>55843079
>>55843124
>>55843152

On a related note Sakura's elemental affinity is as of recent stuff probably one of the more
potentially hax and overpowered powers in the nasuverse.

So not only is it a nice thing to do, but it's also a good investment if that parts not enough.
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>>55843199
I'm not saying he's a shitposter, I'm saying that he's not going to be listened to. We had two threads trying to drill it into one namefag, it's not likely that we'll get another to listen.
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>>55842987
Literally-sugar-powered, lazy, cowardly bystander/unwilling mentor/retired true final boss.

I guess I could use those for the sheer dissonance or for 'serious business' mode.

But still. The fucking edge.
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>>55843226
You should give really edgy names to really basic attacks. Like, you're fighting someone, you dodge an attack and sneak up behind them, say "Nothingnessless: As Before, Hereafter," and then punch them in the face with your bare hand. It would be in keeping with your laziness, coming up with tons of ridiculous concepts and names, but being too lazy to actually implement them as anything more than basic shit you can already do.
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>>55843249
Can Time For a Comeback from Majikoi restore lost limbs and organs?
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>>55843166
The Seal perk is really damn strong. I don't know if there's a practical limit. Meikai at least was strong enough for the Witch Queen(?)(I think that's her name) I don't think it's multiversal or planetary in power (So it can't seal away the Chaos Gods), but I'm pretty sure it could seal most foes away if they're not planet busters.

From what I know:
Somehow Sal got yanked into the red sea?? Somehow?? I have no idea how or why that happened (it wasn't shown in canon) but it did. So I'm guessing there would be some influence--people sealed up could probably pull people inside, but they'd need a lot of outside help to get out considering that only one person could escape the seal and I don't think it was even targetting him in the first place, hence why he was able to escape. (Samekichi) ...If you don't buy the "power of love" explanation.

I think in general people sealed up with it need outside help if the seal was targetting them.
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>>55843284
Also, "edgy" is a really dumb buzzword that insecure people use so that they can feel superior to others. If you genuinely dislike that style it's fine, but I think you should reconsider if it being "edgy" is literally the only thing stopping you.
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>>55843226
>>55843283
OKAY.

FINE.

YOU WIN 4 CHAN.

I WON'T SPOILER THIS SHIT.

LET EVERYONE SEE MY FUCKING POWERLEVEL THERE.

FUCK.
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>>55838983
>Connection to the World’s Magic -
>During the jump you
can increase the maximum amount you can channel by performing a ritual each year.

So once the jump is over, we can't increase our magic? Better not miss a ritual then. Do other options that increase your magical core size have any impact on how much magic you can channel at once?
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>>55843305
*Strong enough for the Witch Queen to keep an eye on.

I need to proofread my posts more jeez.
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>>55843305
Alright, cool, thanks Nika. That helps a lot.
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>>55843287
Yup.
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>>55843249

>So what, basically halved in effect?

Sorry but I'm going to have to try to use math for this. Mostly since I'm not completely sure if what I'm thinking and what you asked are the same or not.

Basically let's say the canon B rank is at 4 and the canon A rank is at 8. Instead of having the combined version be at 12 it would be a 6 (a.k.a. the average of the two).
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>>55843375
Oh, that makes more sense. Probably A+ then?
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>>55843358
Nice. Thanks.
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>>55843329
Nika, soon to be the only person who hires a proofreader and an editor to post on imageboards.
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>>55843358
Can we buy the same skill twice in the Servant supplement?
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>>55843284
>>55843307
...I guess 'tryhard' might be a better word, maybe. It's just, I dunno, that sounds like something you'd see in a Naruto/HP fanfic, to me.

Like, it's okay if you're trying to be ironic or over-the-top, but not as something actually serious. Your example works, though. I like it.
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>>55843432
Depends on what Skill. If it makes sense, yes, though it won't stack.
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>>55843284
The idea of having long, complicated names for techniques that have nothing to do with what they actually do and calling them out sounds absolutely fantastic. Feels like one of those things old, tired jumpers might do just to fuck around.




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