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>>57396728
first for Aelves soup
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What are you working on /aosg/?
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>>57396793
>>57396793
Still these guys. All I wanna do is go home and paint
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How bad of an idea would it be to bring back the old Dwarf army in a GA Order list? Fyreslayers for the hammer, Dispossessed for the anvil, and then some gyrocopters or a cannon or something.

All this dwarfposting is giving me ideas.
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Create the most of original of units
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>>57396839
I feel you anon. I'm stuck at work for at least another hour.
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>>57396870
looks like a deathcast eternal
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Do you think that recycling armies (Pestilens, FEC, BCR, Seraphon) and recycling+ (Ironjawz, Sylvaneth) will get anything new anytime soon like this year?
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ITT: We give playstyles to legacy armies that have no rules

>Ironweld Arsenals
>Warmachines everywhere
>AoS Admech

>Collegiate Arcane
>all the Bretonnian units became wizards
>the peasants are test objects
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>>57397101
>Aelfs
>you can play them
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>>57397134
>Dispossessed
>you have to shave your neckbeard
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>>57397101
>disposessed get named heroes, the ghosts of their ancestors
>the posessed
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>>57397101
>DoK
>You can sacrifice your own models near terrains to change them into DoK altars with buffs and shit
>Enemy units killed near altars make the buff even better
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>>57397039
Well, considering that Maggotkin technically are a recycling army...

Also, since they're about to release a Moonclan model, yes, I think they will.
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Is Slaanesh gone?
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>>57397374
No
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>>57397374
For now.
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>>57396866
Was considering something like this, for an idea? Try and do the best of both armies, see what comes out. I'm not massively competitive so it'd be mostly for funsies.

Allegiance: Order
Auric Runefather (80)
- General
- Trait: Legendary Fighter
- Artefact: Relic Blade
Auric Runesmiter (80)
- Forge Key
Runelord (80)

20 x Vulkite Berzerkers (240)
- War-Picks & Slingshields
10 x Hearthguard Berzerkers (200)
- Poleaxes
20 x Warriors (160)
- Double-handed Duardin Axes & Shields
Gyrobombers (80)
Gyrobombers (80)

Total: 1000 / 1000
Allies: 0 / 200
Wounds: 76
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I'm trying to build a 2000pts list with 3 BCR Start Collecting boxes. I can still add up to 160pts of allies. Any ideas? I can fit a unit of leadbelchers or an ironblaster. Or maybe I should use a battalion?

Allegiance: Beastclaw Raiders
Huskard on Thundertusk (380)
- General
- Blood Vulture
- Trait: Everwinter's Master
- Artefact: The Pelt of Charngar
Butcher (140) (the third stonehorn kit conversion)
- Allies

4 x Mournfang Pack (320)
- Gargant Hackers
4 x Mournfang Pack (320)
- Gargant Hackers
4 x Mournfang Pack (320)
- Gargant Hackers

Stonehorn Beastriders (360)

Total: 1840 / 2000
Allies: 140 / 400
Wounds: 103
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>>57397470
Generally you want to put your heroes on Stonehorns because both want to be in melee, and Beastriders on Thundertusks because they want to sit back and shoot.
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>>57397374
he was turned into morathi's play thing after Teclis and Malekith got done making him puke up all the elf souls
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Can Wanderers succesfully take down a BCR army competently?
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>>57397518
I heard that stonehorn are shit after the stone skeleton errata. Wouldn't be better to run both on thundertusks?
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>>57394582
Zandri dust looks good, it's what I did for my gore gruntas. Something like zandri dust base, then a heavy agrax wash, then drybrushing a few times to lighten it back up. Go super light on selective areas of the fur to give them a bit of variey. Can't remember the exact colours but I ripped it straight from the How to Pain Ironjawz pdf.
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>>57397564
They're not shit, they're just not immortal any more. They'll still kill almost anything they get in their charge range (which is huge because they can run+charge and reroll charge)

Thundertusks are good at sniping heroes but
a) They suck against horde armies. 6 mortal wounds is a light tickle to blocks of 30+ models, especially if they have some way to mitigate wounds (like Vulkites, death units, ressurecting dryads, etc.). Stonehorns wreck big blocks of dudes.
b) Without Stonehorns threatening the frontline your opponent can easy focus fire your thundertusks because you dont have good target saturation.

BCR arent a top tier army any more so don't expect to roll over people effortlessly like last season
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>>57396870
>tfw if these are real, they along with morchai will cause me to start investing in a Death army I don't have time for
I shouldn't even come to these threads anymore
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>>57397647
Can you post a pic of your piggies?
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>>57396870
If this is a tomb king re-release then I will be stoked
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>>57397662
Good to know. Are there any reasons why I should run beastriders rather than another huskard?
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>>57397039
Seraphon have the most unit variety this side of Stormcast, so I wouldn't hold my breath. I'd kill to at least get a couple more units for Fireslayers and Ironjawz, at the very least to bring them in line with Sylvaneth - those two are basically monobuilds, and more unit variety could do wonders to mix up their mechanics

Pestilens and FEC are going to be ignored forever though
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>>57397711
Looks great. Do you have a DA profile or imgur gallery with AoS stuff?
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>>57397711
Can you post the chaos warrior again?
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Kiwi pre-orders are up.
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While Greenskinz might be absolute dogshit, the idea of running them as kunnin orks dressing up like humies to trick Chaos inta trying to krump 'em definitely has its appeal. I remember someone talked a while back about doing a golden Ironjawz army with a fuckton of Stormcast bits to have orcs doing more or less the same thing: trick Chaos into thinking they're up against some puny humies while instead they're trying to jump some boyz looking for a rumble.

Dunno if I'd just want to use actual Ironweld warmachines and crew them with goblins in place of dwarves or actually go from the Kromlech shit. But either way, I'd be dropping a fat wad of a dose on Empire peacock feathers. Or maybe just use it as an excuse to learn to use greenstuff better, as I'd probably be using it to make landschneckt hats anyway.
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>>57397741
I had to clean it up and yeah I do this links to my blog as well. https://twitter.com/DrRainbowhat

>>57397750
He's not done just yet, I wanna add details and chaos energy.
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>>57397760
>entirely non-GW models
Why not just play that game then?
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>>57397779
I would. KoW has twice the presence in my town as AoS, and I already have a Dwarf army. One of the people that I play Infinity with is still clinging to AoS, so I thought it'd be a nice way to kill two birds with one stone. I get an Orc army for KoW, and I get a Freeguild army to play with a friend.
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>>57397760
>landschneckt
lel
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>>57397765
Hello mr Mignola
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>>57397869
He is an inspiration of mine yeah
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>>57397672
I mean, I'm terrible, and never got around to doing the final highlights for these guys, but the idea is sound
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>>57397913
I see and I have to admit you have talent Anon
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>>57397936
I like it - with a bright drybrush it might look good. I want to stick with a base colour that can be bought as spray paint so zandri dust should do the trick here
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What do the armies look like at your gaming club? What do they play?
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would this stack with the plaguebearers cloud of flies for -4 to hit in shooting?
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>>57397754
I like them. My snail farmer is going to have some cute pups
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>>57397754
Beasts with Horticulus seem to be pretty fucking terrifying. Any Nurgle Daemon Hero increases their damage by one and Snailboy himself lets them reroll charges and hit rolls of 1. They are also hilariously tough and, for Nurgle, quite fast as well.
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Q: Will we find out what Nagash did to the captured Lord-Celestant?
A: I don't want to give too much away as it will be a massive spoiler as to what is coming. But Nagash has been tinkering with the Stormcast, often with their process of reforging energies

All memes aside, its happening right?
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>>57398036
Is it worth to buy the Blightwar box and Nurgle start collecting and run plague drones as beasts of nurgle? Drones are great for conversions so it should be easy to make them look good enough
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>>57397754
>Just endlessly Retreating and Charging turn after turn for a 50/50 chance of 1d3 mortal wounds to any and all enemy units within 3"
How fitting for a Nurgle unit to be so cancerous.
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>>57398061
DEATHCAST
ETERNALS
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>>57397969
Cheers anon. Some day I'll dust everything off and finish the dudes
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Will he manage to protect his purity of spirit from the shadow-aelfen-slaaneshi-incestous-murder-snek-matriarchy?
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Reminder that there are retards in this thread who do not play both WHFB and AoS.
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>>57398159
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>>57398174
Why would I? I used to play fantasy for years (never liked it much but I like to collect models) and after 2 years of playing AoS I just can not enjoy playing WHFB anymore
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>>57398117
Even better: This activates once per *unit* of Beasts, so just grab half a dozen solitary Beasts for six times the MW cancer.

>>57398081
Only if you have a very good idea of how you want to convert them. I tried that but the first of those Beasts looked so godawful that now I have two Drones lying around that I don't know what to do with.

Or rather, didn't know what to do with. Tomorrow I'll check whether I can fit a Chaos Knight's legs on their backs to make my own Lord of Affliction.
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>>57398174
>tfw not playing either anymore and just here for fun of non-shitposting nature
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>>57397969
>>57398157
And as I said, check out the how to paint doc - they make it look swish
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>>57397039
honestly, GW should release some heroes for the old battletome, like they do for malign portent
it would make the players feel still invested in the AoS universe, without dealing with who know how long realeases
and when i say old BT, i think of both reboxing factions like FEC and BCR, and KO
everyone need love except stormcast. Honestly i like the fluff, but their miniatures are jsut so FAT
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>>57398253
I really want that second Khorne Warband.
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>>57397470
would you be fine with allies ?
moonclan gobs are cheap, and would help you holding objective against hordes
a 80 gobs unit is surprisingly durable, for only 560 pts with a shaman to cast mystic shield
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>>57398251
>didn't know what to do with
I saw a quite easy way to convert them. Don't glue wings - just turn over the body and glue legs. Then glue the plaguebearer's head to the end of the drone's trunk and it's ready. I can not fuckin find a pic of this conversion but it looked like the alien from the "the thing" movie
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>>57397522
it seems that aelves are more or less to be expected in the recent months, what kind of army/units are you expecting ?
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>>57398159
I want a Scryer Elias model.
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>>57398363
Snake Aelves.
Deep Aelves.
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>>57398332
>would you be fine with allies ?
Yes, t-that's what I asked about Anon.
>moonclan gobs are cheap, and would help you holding objective against hordes
Yeah, but they are not an option for BCR. I was thinking about gutbusters grots but the BCR anon tried it and they done poorly
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>>57398117
having three pups jumping in and out of combat seems like a hilarious riot of good times. Im looking forward to trying it out.
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>>57398349
Definitely sounds better than what I had planned: a limbless rot fly body crawling on the ground with a slime trail behind it and a cordyceps-like fungus growth made of Spawn parts breaking out of the chitin.
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>>57398363
could be like this

but who knows, might be anything.
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>>57398446
>the "must be aelves" custodes rumour removed
It's like poetry
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>>57398460
>look at me making fun of people arent i clever
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>>57398282
The idea of having big names for your lore is really appealing.

I rarely use named stuff unless it is a big game or we are going for a narrative but the idea of heavy hitters like Thorgim and Grombrindal being around is nice.

Since they all died though all we got is random jobber #2 who is probably a badass but having some past account of their great deeds would be neat.
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>>57398498
>His gentle feelings
>Trampled
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>>57398366
He's too innocent for the battlefield
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>>57398527
He doesn't need to fight, he can just watch.
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>>57398527
Does he browse /aosg/ with his humble fire?
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>>57398349
While looking it up, there's also someone that made them out of the fly bodies but instead turned them into Warcraft-style sand worms. Fittingly hideous while still keeping a nice bug aesthetic.
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>>57398526
>still trying too hard
maybe next time
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>>57398566
>Baby don't hurt me
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>Even the mini-alfrostun battalion is now too expensive for 2000pts games
JUST

Huskard on Stonehorn (380)
- General
- Blood Vulture
- Trait: Everwinter's Master
- Artefact: The Pelt of Charngar
Frostlord on Thundertusk (460)

2 x Mournfang Pack (160)
- Gargant Hackers
2 x Mournfang Pack (160)
- Gargant Hackers
2 x Mournfang Pack (160)
- Gargant Hackers
Stonehorn Beastriders (360)

Olwyr Alfrostun (220)
Eurlbad (160)

Total: 2060 / 2000
Wounds: 73
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>tfw undivided mono slaves to darkness player
>no new model range in sight for the next ten years
Just squat us already
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>>57398645
You have 9 units, 9 heroes, 3 battalions, allegiance abilities and with mark of chaos you can run your army in 5 different ways. Hell, you can even use BoK, DoT and MoN abilities iirc
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>>57396870
katophranes faction
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>>57398637
Golly! It's almost as though those bullshit battalions aren't meant for Matched games under 2500 points.
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>>57398433
>a limbless rot fly body crawling on the ground with a slime trail behind it and a cordyceps-like fungus growth made of Spawn parts breaking out of the chitin
Sounds great but it isn't the baby first conversion idea for sure.
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>>57398637
>Use forbidding twice in one sentence.
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>>57398601
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>>57398728
C'mon - with current meta it's not even this good. I wanted to use it just for the fluff reasons. On the other hand Ironjawz can use the ironfist in 1000pts games
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>>57397404
Bump? Bad idea? Change the units up?
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>>57398645
Fuck off, you have a full army of units and heroes, battalions, and plenty of allies. StD are in an amazing spot as far as support goes, compared to other Legacy armies. Plus, you have actually list diversity which is something that most Legacy armies would kill for.

>>57398738
True, but something along the lines of >>57398549 should be doable. It's basically just Drones chopped in half and then held up with greenstuff and marbles in the shape of variable-lengths of worm-tube-body.
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How many heroes -should- I run at 1000 points for scenarios where only heroes can cap points? 2?
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>>57398349
?
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>>57398878
2-3 is plenty if you can get them there.
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>>57398724
what kind of army would that be?
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>>57398349
Bro just use plague toads
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>>57397662
Another new player looking to play BCR, the buff huskards on thundertusks can give seem pretty good, are they worth taking over beastriders?
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>>57398879
theyre supposed to be cute and playful not tyranid Frankensteins.
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>>57398879
Yes, but the one I saw was using only drone bits
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>>57398893
I was gonna run:
GUO
Toads
Toads
Kings
Kings
Rotbringer hero

But now that toads got more expensive I'm thinking of dropping the mortal side and going full daemon.

GUO
Toads
Toads
who the fuck knows
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>>57398878
If you're talking about Duality of Death then it's worth noting that you can use behemoths to capture objectives, too
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>>57398911
Then use nurglings' heads and plaguebearers arms on top of the insectoid limbs
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>>57398911
>wah.jpg

>>57398926
Maybe this one?
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>>57399047
Nope. The body was turn over like this one >>57398879 but it was using this tube or whatever is its english name
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>>57398911
>Nurgle army of tyranid Frankensteins
...That's actually not a bad idea.
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>>57398943
I dont have the handbook so I don't know how many scenarios you can cap with heroes only.
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It's already past 1am. Where's the new faggotkin tome?
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>>57399130
>>57399047
>>57398879
>poorfags being poor

get out of my hobby
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>>57399227
>liking the new Beasts model
lmao
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>>57399238
Uh the tail makes them pretty okay now
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>>57399227
Nah, I just don't like the new beast model. Also drone kit is great and it would be such a waste to not try to convert it
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>>57399238
>implying you arent a poorfag trying to justify your shitty bitzbash proxy shit
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>>57399238
I like it, but it's very monopose.
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>>57399186
There's only one that requires a HERO unit, and it's Duality of Death
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>>57399308
Dope, thanks man
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What is your favourite chaos god?

Mine would be unironicaly Slaanesh, i really like how it represents the lack of morality of the human mind given the chance to accomplish it's darkest desires and fantasies, the absolute excess and dedication to hedonism, not just sexual but of all kinds.
How humanity succubs to its primal desires extreme sensations, finding them in pleasure of pain, in food in beaty, in sex, in arts such as music or dance, etc

I like Slaanesh because I believe is the one who exemplifies and resumes human mind the best

Even though I enjoy the other 3 in theyr own ways, of course
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>>57399253
Remember when modeling and conversions were an encouraged part of the hobby?
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Last night some people were asking how I painted a clean white over black primer.

I did my normal process on these Liberators shield to show you guys what it looks like

From left to right,
1. One layer of Celestra Grey
2. Two layers of Celestray Grey
3. One layer of Ulthuan Grey
4. Two layers of Ulthuan Grey

It still needs one more layer of Ulthuan Grey, then I will use a M Glaze brush to put Nuln Oil in the crevices.
The last step is to use a S Layer brush to paint thin edge highlights along the edge of the shield and the crevices.

I hope this is helpful
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>>57399363
They still are.
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>>57399363
I seem to remember that some of the latest WD issues have showcased how to build scratch-made terrain, if memory serves right.
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>>57398159
Have we even seen Morathi yet? IIRC all we know is that she made it out of the End Times and is in the Realm of Shadows presumably taking her son's huge dragon cock
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>>57399376
Not according to this fag
>>57399253
>>57399227

I never understood people being proud of wasting money.
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>>57399348
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>>57396870
>most original of units

Pacifist Khornate daemons that are well-dressed and go from battlefield to battlefield spreading the word of pacifism and peace. May or may not pass out literature and refreshments.
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>>57398911
Who cares? Hobby and your dudes always goes before canon.
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>>57399363
I remember an old white Dwarf telling the readers what non GW products that's good for buying for terrain purposes.
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>>57399348
succubs
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>>57399596
It does suck they don't do that anymore but it's very understandable why they have to shill their own shit now.
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>>57399480
Nurgle is cute

>>57399606
Thats also a good reason lol
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>>57399522
This would be a fascinating DH plot wherein the cult all wear det collars and anhero themselves to summon a bunch of daemons
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>>57399462
if your conversion cant be immediately identified as the thing is is standing in for then you have failed

slamming together a bunch of crap and calling it something it looks nothing like because you are too cheap to get the real thing is sad.
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>>57399366
Why not spraycoat white? Wtf?
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>>57399671
The new beasts are monopose trash and I'd much rather face the flyworms than six models that all look identical.
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>>57399677
Because I have a black colour scheme and its not worth buying white spray for shields
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>>57399706
dont worry poorfag I wouldnt refuse you a game based on your inability to afford the actual models.

but i would laugh at you and make fun of you behind your back
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>>57399787
Like the teenaged girl you are, then.
Don't worry sweetie, you'll graduate High school soon enough.
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>>57399722
>and its not worth buying white spray for shields
It really is.
Not the other anon, but I'd really recommend it. Saves you loads of time while painting.
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>>57399348
>liking the best God
How clichè
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>>57399838
>everyone who doesnt respect my "artistic conversion" isnt on my level
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>>57397692
if this is a tomb king re-release, i will be experiencing an apotheosis, if just for my antic egytptian boner
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>>57399838
anyone who unironically uses sweetie as a burn is some kinda midwest shutin
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Playing beasts looks way more fun than slamming 40 blightkings forwards
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>>57399706
>poorfag gonna poor

theres at least one of these bastards at every store
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>>57399905
i remember the LOTR mag came with shit like this
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>>57398403
damned gitz
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For chaos warrior anon.
Next batch is Rotpope, white lion looking upset at his microfaction, stormcast downing in nurglings, necromancer, and spider rider's spider eating the rider.
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>>57398499
honestly, i don't understand, why GW isn't rotating each grand alliance, even if its just token stuff like battletome from already existing range (BCR, FEC, deathrattle, nighthaunt, dispossed, etc, ...)
What is the point of having four grand alliance, if you just focus on order and chaos.
Better make death part of the order and destruction part of the chaos stufff
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>>57400077
I love how you did the Chaos Dwarf art anon, thank you for doing that request of mine, I never got to tell ya how much I loved it.
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>>57400121
It's no problem I'm glad you liked what I did!
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>>57398645
you know, slaves to darkness have some of the best miniatures of the game (debatable)
chaos warriors, marauders horsemen and chariots, chosen ones, lord on manticore, and chaos warshrine, which is a unit that fit any mono-gods army
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>>57400119
I honestly think they don't know how to make a threat that isn't Chaos anymore.
Nagash here is probably their last attempt for a while.
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>>57398861
why not just convert your slaves of darkness to fit your army ?
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Crossposting from /wipg/, I spent a few minutes thinking about a colour scheme for the competition. What do you guys think?
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>>57399130
are the new nurgle unit good ?
i remenber hueg fly fucker and blightknight being quite deadly at 1000pts
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>>57396866
So I'm this guy. Is an all Dorf army folly? Competitively I mean. I don't want to have an auto-lose army just because I wanted to be fluffy. I seem to be the only old dwarf player who likes the new Fyreslayers too.
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kinda glad that these are going to see some use again. They have been sitting collecting dust for ages. Do want to get one of the new ones though, they look sweet.
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>>57399363
considering i began with lord of the ring miniatures periodics, whiches told us about how to make terrain out of carboard
i'd say yes
it also took abig part of the internet stuff
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>>57399522
but what about the skulls ?
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>>57400237
They're tough as hell and far faster than the ones in foot, they're gonna be well worth ot I think.
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>>57400183
Ork Waggghs used to fucking decimate entire regions of the empire.

VCs almost took the capital at one point during the vampire wars.

Skaven almost took down the entire empire during the rat wars.

Your right. Chaos is only ever the big bad now and it is stale as fuck.
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>>57400215
the dude on the beast look way too grey
being fleshier would make some contrast isnt-it ?
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>>57400317
The problem with Chaos is they only focus on Khorne as being the major god that does everything and all he is is GRR IM ANGRY WAR GOD, BLOOD LMAO

If they actually gave focus to Chaos Undivided they'd be great because then we get a look into men who sell their souls for the promise of power rather than LMAO I JUST WANT BLOOD AND SKULLS XD
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>>57400388
>The problem with Chaos is they only focus on Khorne

Hardly, both Nurgle and Tzeentch have had a fair share.
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>>57400388
>tfw chaos undivided has been squatted
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>>57400419
Only recently. And even still up until VERY recently, it's always Khorne being the one who has something happening in any of the novels and it's his warriors always getting focused on. It's annoying
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>>57400429
just wait for the inevitable everchosen release that will drop new chaos warriors and roll everything worth keeping into a new book.
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>>57400469
>Only recently.

Naaaah. Since the very beginning of AoS Nurgle has been just a little behind Khorne as the fighting in Ghyran was basically all him.
Tzeentch was the opponent de jure in Chamon which was really the third most prominent realm.
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>>57400251
Last thread someone posted a competitive mixed dwarf list, though they got shit on because it wasn't casual enough.
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>>57400429
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>>57400251
Dwafs are trash and if you like dwarfs odds are its because they resemble yourself, a fat neckbeard
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>>57400307
Units of 2
Build the hero
Have to ebay another model with bell to complete your unit of 4
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>>57400547
Also the whole Glottkin stuff.
When it comes to The End Times the main threat was (in order of books):
Nagash and the undead
Nurgle
Elves were a threat to themselves
Skaven
Archaon and Chaos in general
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Thinking of building this army. Any Blood God followers care to weigh in?

Allegiance: Khorne
Leaders
Skulltaker (100)
Bloodmaster, Herald of Khorne (80)
Bloodsecrator (120)
Slaughterpriest (100)
Slaughterpriest with Hackblade and Wrathhammer (100)
Skullgrinder (80)

Units
30 x Bloodletters (270)
10 x Bloodreavers (70)
5 x Blood Warriors (100)
3 x Mighty Skullcrushers (140)
1 x Skull Cannons (160)
1 x Skull Cannons (160)
1 x Khorgoraths (80)
1 x Khorgoraths (80)
1 x Slaughterbrute (180)

Battalions
Gore Pilgrims (180)

Total: 2000 / 2000
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>>57400317
These things happened once or twice each over a period of thirty yeas. Aos is what, three years old?
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>>57400619
It was like 90% kharadron lol
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>>57400619
Was that the guy with the lore master on Vortex and carmine dragon? How are those dwarfy
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>>57400788
If they want to kill the setting and reboot it that is their prerogative.

But at least fucking do it right. This restart with no meat is going to start hemorrhaging players soon.
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>>57400971
true disposessed players enjoy when they lose. It gives them a grudge to add to their book. In fact doing nothing but losing is better than winning because it means you have reasons to hate everyone.
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>>57401024
good luck convincing the board of directors to change course when their stock price doubled since killing whfb
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>>57401160
>needing reasons to hate everyone


Dawi... I.
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>>57401024
>2 years later
>game is bigger than WHFB ever was
>fantasyfag tears still flow
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>>57401241
I literally still have WHFB.

All my books and models did not go away.
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>>57401241
>Anecdotal evidence is the word of God
It entirely depends on where you are, mate. In my town, AoS has fewer players than Warmahordes while all of the WHFB players jumped ship to KoW collectively.
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>>57401293
It takes like 5 minutes to look at the number of events and participants around the world. AOS is far more popular (and a better game) than WHFB
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>>57397837
>KoW has twice the presence in my town as AoS

No it doesn't.
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>>57396793
Sunk another couple hours into carnoman, managed to get the torso and throne done. I don't have him ready to play for tomorrow, but I'm hoping I can finish him by next week.
Most of my time is spent putting like 3-4+ layers of kizlev flesh straight onto the black primer, there must be a better way of doing it, but I've already committed myself to this technique so I guess there's no turning back.
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>>57397837
>>57401293
I'd believe you if KoW didn't suck
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>>57401597
Yeah, it does.
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>>57401690
>Extremely niche game provided entirely online based out of the UK with not very good minis.

>Bigger than AoS.

No, What you're saying is people play the KoW ruleset as angry WHFB grognards.
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>>57401651
>Mfw even as shitty as AoS lore is at the moment, it’s at least better than every alternative because all the alternatives were literally designed as proxies first and foremost to be used in Citadel games
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>GROGNARDS ARE ALWAYS ANGRY

>NOW WATCH AS I HAVE GW TAKE A MASSIVE SHIT ON MY CHEST AND THANK THEM FOR IT
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I'm going to buy another box of gryph hounds just to spite fantasy grognards. Watch as AoS grows more powerful while the memory of your game fades.
Soon it will only be a video game.
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>>57401807
>Literally resorting to Ad hominims in caps
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>>57401765
>extremely niche game
The best rank-and-flank game on the market, which has an audience. In fact, this game used to be one.

>provided entirely online
I honestly don't know what this point is trying to say. That it's rules are available online? That most of Mantic's business is done online? Books and kits in 3/4 gaming stores in town, and the 4th is a GW, with one even carrying Mantic minis to my own surprise.

>based out of the UK
Well, I live in the American Southeast.

>with not very good minis
Different people have different taste. Some of the minis, I dislike. Others, I love. And Mantic has an open-door policy with third-party models, so those WHFB are perfectly fine.

Are some of KoW's players angry WHFB grognards? Sure. Some just like the idea of rank-and-flank, and others just like a good beer-and-pretzels wargame that can wrap up a match in less than an hour.
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>>57396728
Lets talk proxies and counts as, anons! Would pic related be a good counts as Wight King with Axe? That way I don't have multiple Krells running about?
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>>57401896
If you don't think GW has fucked over people still waiting for shit after they pumped out nothing but stormcaste and chaos you are either retarded or a massive shill.
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>>57401898
What town are you living in Anon.
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>>57401898
How does rank and flank even work if both players actively try to flank?
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>>57401916
Oh no, GW are producing a glut of Chaos units and <Insert non-chaos popular army> How will I ever recover, this turn of events is surely out of the norm.

8th edition WHFB kids need to just leave /tg/.
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The new stormcast hero looks fucking stupid.

Stormstache and Stormapron.
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>>57401643
You’d have been better off base coating with Bugmans Glow and then layering Kislev on top. I always try to avoid using GW “Layer” paints over a prime. I always start with a Base and use the Layer as intended.
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>>57401971
Keep spamming the thread manchild

It won't bring 8th edition back.
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>>57401918
Huntsville. Hell, there's even bi-monthly KoW and Frostgrave nights at Rocket Republic, if you want to play some wargames in a brewery. First and third of every month.

>>57401927
Tactical positioning. Attempting to catch charges in chaff while skirmishing, otherwise drawing enemies into poor locations and then swarming them with gobbos, attempting to utilize the speed of an army to outpace and outcircle your enemy, etc etc.

>>57401914
Not half-bad, actually. And the aesthetic even blends in well enough. Just be warned, you're working with metal which can be a lot more of a pain in the ass to convert and play around with than plastic.
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>tfw nothing for Skaven til maybe July
>tfw even elves get a release

We skavenfags truly are the mice living off crumbs
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>>57401949
>I'll just accuse him of being a WHFB grognard who is salty

This is a really lazy response. You can stop shilling anytime.
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>>57401982
Asshole, I'm a proud Stormcast Player - I just don't know how we go from badass Lord Celestant on Stardrake and Lord Aquilor to this fucking shit.

Stormcast are fighters and now we get a fucking architect?
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>>57399366
Thanks for the content anon
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>>57402021
>>57402005

>Literally so assblasted you have resorted to Wojack posting.

What are you even trying to prove? That WHFB are still so fucking mad?
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>>57401986
>22 KoW players in the area.
>Almost half of them are Undead players.

Let me make this simple for you. What you are doing is continuing a group.

You only play KoW out of spite, because the game is tactically dullard because it was made by Alessio, who was then promptly fired because 6th WHFB was a fucking chore.
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>>57401986
>Tactical positioning. Attempting to catch charges in chaff while skirmishing, otherwise drawing enemies into poor locations and then swarming them with gobbos, attempting to utilize the speed of an army to outpace and outcircle your enemy, etc etc.

Or to translate

You get a +1 combat res mod or +2 on the rear.
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>>57402079
>Not doing things out of spite

Do you know where you are?
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Grognards get out. There are other threads to shit all over, and bitching about AoS in /aosg/ is a tired meme
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>>57401986
Still don't like the magic system and how gimped heros feel.
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>>57402118
Yeah, a place that was infested with some of the worst scummiest WHFB players ever. Ones who showed why WHFB went extinct.

How old are you Anon, because as a Longbeard I can tell you fucking tales that would make you weep about /whfg/

That place was proof WHFB needed to die, just to divorce people like me, actual hobbyists, from them.
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>>57402154
And Monsters.

And anything not basically a Historical analogy.
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>>57402079
Those number seem about right, but I wouldn't say half of them are Undead. It's a solid faction, though, and Mantic's models for them are pretty choice. Hell, only one of the people I regularly see is actually using GW Undead and that's a Tomb King player. And it's sure as hell a lot healthier of a meta than our AoS players.
>6 players
>5 Chaos, 1 Nighthaunt
>4 Nurgle

And no, we play KoW because we enjoy it. Half of those Undead players probably never even touched WHFB but rather jumped in with a cheap faction that's a good starting ground. If we were playing out of spite, we'd probably be playing 9th Age. You do realize that people can play games because they find them fun, right?

>>57402109
>implying +2 isn't a big statistical bonus
That's not even getting into special rules like Yellow-Bellied and the like.

>>57402154
>>57402182
This I can understand. The hunger for herohammer is fair enough, but I personally feel like they've got a pretty nice balance right now as far as Heroes, Infantry, and Monsters. Infantry without Heroes crumble while Heroes without Infantry get overwhelmed. Everything has its place. And we're not left with the absolute devotion to horde lists that Warhammer had started to slip to in 7th before going all-out in 8th.
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>>57402170
I am not under 25 I can tell you that.
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>>57402263
>Not devoted to horde lists
>KoW

Are you serious? man American players really just need to stop talking about this shit, they know fuck all.
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>>57402263
>KoW
>Fun

It's literally 6th edition with even less fun allowed.

With no Good combat heroes and all the Monsters are basically shitty proxies for Units.

You play KoW because you spent money and got angry at GW, hence why you are here shitposting.

Your AoS meta shows your Gaming community is a festering stinkhole.
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>fantasyfags have to shitpost here because their own general is dead (like their shitty game)
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>>57402333
>If I don't like a game, it's shit
ok
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>>57402263
Let me explain every game of KoW.

You have your rank and file. And you have maybe an Elite unit you want to use as a Hammer, maybe they're cavalry.

Then you have your chaffe units to protect the flanks of your rank and file and your Damage dealer unit.

Maybe, JUST MAYBE, you have some ranged units, maybe even artillery.

Your tactic is to move your rank and file into the middle of the board, specifically with little to no terrain otherwise your game falls apart, And you position them EVER SO SLIGHTLY tilted to accept a charge from the enemies exact same tactic.

Then if you managed to position your chaffe better than him, you win. That is literally every single game ever of KoW.

Because Fundamentally, KoW is 6th edition of WHFB with literally every single uniqueness taken away and replaced with blander rulesets.
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>>57402444
Did rank-and-flank run train on your mother while you watched, or something? You seem hilariously bitter about a game you don't even play.
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>>57402489
He’s pointing out that rank and flank has literally no actual strategy involved
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>>57402489
No, I just played that game for fucking decades and KoW is a massive step back so hard it just ran backwards off of a fucking cliff.

You know what I rather enjoyed? 5th edition WHFB, where the armies were smallish and full of character, and the game could have boards full of terrain to overcome the rather limited simulationist ideas of the ruleset.

KoW is not like that, KoW is autistic grognard shuffleboard.
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There's way more strategy involved in moving individual models rather than squares.
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>>57396728
So, what's the over/under on their being a Start Collecting: Maggotkin going up for pre-order in the next two weeks?
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>>57402561
>Lord of Blights
>Blightlords
>Pusgoyles
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>>57401995
shut the fuck up; at least you have a fucking battletome
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>>57397970
I have a player that's been collecting for 30+ years. He's got skaven, Seraphon, Khorne, lots of Death, Nurgle, dwarves and Empire.

Another long standing player has Aelves, dwarves, Stormcast, Ogors, BCR, all types of daemons except his nurgle is heavily converted into a Cthulhu theme.
There's two nurgle players, a tzeentch /aelf player, Sylvaneth player, mixed Order player and myself, skaven/Stormcast Eternals/death
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>>57402540
Agree to disagree, my dude. And I'll take my 22 autistic bitter grognards with a wide variety of armies over 4 people jerking off onto their GUO while the other two watch.

Different people like different wargames, and there's nothing criminal with liking something that someone else dislikes or vice versa. I prefer Infinity to 40k, but I'm not going to pretend that 40k players are all a bunch of mouth-breathing neckbeards wearing Iron Crosses who think Hitler did nothing wrong. They're just dudes that play a wargame I don't really care for.
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>>57402615
Difference there is Infinity does contribute something different Aesthetically and constructively to 40k.


KoW is literally a rip off Poundland style WHFB right down to the same mistakes that plagued it up until it's death.

namely, Mantic literally so devoid of money due to shit sales they constantly beg on Kickstarter.
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>>57402602
>at least you have a bunch of day one pdf legacy warscrolls in an outdated book

yeah because one clan is the entire skaven line, dumb fuck
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>>57402663
Eh, a lot of games and companies are actually moving over to a Kickstarter-funded style, both to get shit off the ground as well as to pump out supplements. It's basically just turned into an alternate form of commerce. The fact that Mantic continues to do it and continues to get fat payouts every year is a sign that they have pretty solid customer retention to keep getting the sort of numbers they do.
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>>57402773
>Good customer retention
>Only KoW supported properly, everything else is fucking horrid.

Sorry, no, You're basically paying a leech.
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>>57402818
>What are Dreadball, Deadzone, and Dungeon Saga
>Warpath just got a major overhaul with those armies arriving to backers first while slated for release to the store in 2018
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>>57402860
>Implying anyone plays Warpath
>Implying Mantic isn't just laundering money.
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>>57402615
>over 4 people jerking off onto their GUO while the other two watch.
>I'm not going to pretend that 40k players are all a bunch of mouth-breathing neckbeards wearing Iron Crosses who think Hitler did nothing wrong. They're just dudes that play a wargame I don't really care for.
Pick one. these are mutually exclusive statements of viewpoint
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>>57402615
>>57402895
I enjoyed the latter sentiment. But you just sank it with the first statement. Gotta calm down if you wanna make cogent points
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>>57402895
>ignoring the fact that I referred to KoW players with the same depreciating tone
You can cherrypick if you want, anon. I won't be mad. But I was using over-the-top and spiteful descriptions of both groups.
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>>57402736
That's still better than most you dumb fuck.
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>>57401914
Their 32mm and might be a bit larger than what would fit in with the rest of the Death line
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>>57401914
I doubt the warmachine models are gonna look passable next to the GW stuff.
But you can easily convert some grave guard into wight kings.
Don't even need a lot of additional bits. Even if you are more ambitious you could probably use dark elf executioners or something like that with a skeleton head too.
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>>57400784
Self bump
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So here is the 2k list I will be playing this weekend at my LGS. Let me know what you think
Order Soup:
Heroes:
Freeguild General on Griffon(hammer/shield)
Freeguild General on Griffon(hammer/shield)
Battlemage
Runelord

Battleline:
Dwarf Warriors x40(great weapons/shields)
Longbeards(great weapons/shields)
Freeguild Handgunners x30

Behemoths:
Steam Tank
Steam Tank

I played last week with my Order of the griffon at 2500(3 Griffon generals like above, 24 demigryph knights and a hurricanum) and barely squeaked a victory over the sylvaneth. This week I want to bring out some of my infantry with monsters as my hammers.
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>>57403504
This is bait right?
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>>57403536
Why do you think this is bait?
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>>57403558
Because you sound like a massive faggot I would never want to play with.

Unless this is a power gaming list just so shit on people in a tourny and not friendly at all.
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>>57403615
>he thinks that list is powergaming
wow
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>>57403615
I honestly don't know what's so power gaming about this list. My general's load outs are optimal, but that's it. My usual opponents are Ironjawz, sylvaneth, daemons of all flavors, lizardmen and stormcast.
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>>57403504
Lools fun anon, give us a batrep.
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>>57403615
>steam tank order soup is power gaming
Youre retarded or just really bad at this game
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>>57403709
I will take pictures, but i apologize in advance for unpainted models. Armies have been sitting in box and I have been itching to play lol. I have the pictures of my brothers spiderfang vs my Order of the Griffon list. Interested?
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>>57403705
He's been telling everyone their list is powergaming since last thread. I should've suspected when he acted like that carmine dragon one was waac cheese, but this one's too obvious.
I guess it's a meme to try to lose or something as being more pure idk
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>>57403758
Ya I'm interested in how the game went roughly as well
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2500 points of my Order of the Griffon(free peoples, 24 demigryph knights, 3 generals on griffon and allied hurricanum) vs 2500 points of spiderfang grots(55 spider riders, 4 arachnarok with shaman, spider boss, 2 allied doom divers and allied gitmob shaman).
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>>57403827
>paint your models

Other than that tell us about the game! It looks sick!
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>>57403827
Top of turn 2, Order of the Griffon won initiative. Battle lines will clash this round as the lines were set.
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>>57403930
The lines have clashed and blood and bodies are crashing off of their mounts. One of my generals’ valorous lieutenants on Griffon fell to an arachnarok, but in turn my other lieutenant fell one. 25 spider riders and 8 demigryph knights have fallen. The Order of the Griffon leads round 3.
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>>57403955
At the bottom of the 3rd round the spiderfang were left leaderless and unable to score points and forfeited the game. Victory to the Order of the Griffon.

I was caught off guard how resilient demigryph knights were and my brother under estimated how much damage the hurricanum does at range. And yes, I know i need to paint. My brothers spiderfang is a side project, he has about 8k points of ironjawz fully painted up and has been focusing on getting 9 of his gore gruntas done for LVO.
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>>57403984
>8k points of ironjawz
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>>57403984
I underestimated gryph chargers the first time i played against them, they're pretty sweet.
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>>57404057
Yeah, we get ridiculous when we collect an army. Last I remember he had 75 brutes and 150 Ard boyz. my Free Peoples army is just over 7k and I'm working on dispossessed, shooting for 3k or so.
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>>57404098
I love the monstrous cavalry available for order.
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>>57404144
Yeah im working on fulminators except riding bears instead of the dracoths
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>>57404100
>75 brutes and 150 ard boyz
FOR WHAT PURPOSE
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>>57404201
Sounds sweet
what models are you using for that?
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>>57404238
Scibor bears and pallador riders, plus bits. Had a lot of chopping and dremmel tool work, but looks good so far with primer imo
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>>57404295
Sweeet
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>>57404214
Orks need a proper amount of Orks for a proppa waaaagh. Thats what my brother said lol.
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>>57400077
Saved.
This is awesome, anon. You're awesome. I'd say "keep it up", but I don't want you to burn out. It'd be a crying shame to lose a drawfag of your talent.
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>>57397765
Oh shit, the guy who requested it here. It looks great, thanks a bunch!
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>>57404458
I'll be sticking around don't worry. I'm looking to make my own army (Orruks) shortly anyway so might as well draw up some art for people also.
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hello
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>>57405086
squad done.
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>>57405099
Looks good anon
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>>57396728
Soon
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>>57396790
What does this soup taste like?
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>>57405211
Concentrated smug.
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Why do Duardin make the best waifu?
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Why do AOS haters think rank and file is better?
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>>57405438
Because muh epic strategy general napoleon feeling.
Also Total War fags.
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>>57405464
Yo btfo, I enjoy the shit out of AoS and enjoy Total War like mad. fuck you tying those together for
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>>57404295
Too cool for /tg/!
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>>57405099
Looks amazing Anon! How did you make the red/orange wounds and blemishes by the way?
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>>57399722
>>57399858
Other anon here again, it saves you the time and money. Instead of wasting black spray, grey and white you could just spray white.

So unless your in a country who has some insane tax on those rattle cans, blessed by Jesus get some my nigga.

This I go black, grey, grey, white, white stuff is just retarded.
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>>57400784
Your thaking Skulltakers, Bloodmasters and Skullgrinders and shit while you don't need to. This is a bad plan.

Drop the nonsence Heroes,Skullcannons, Slaughterbrute and build a good list mate.
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So /aosg/, does your army have custom fluff or do you just use whatever GW provides?
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>>57405650
Why are these units bad?
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>>57405528
i followed the guide in the latest WD.
based in cadian fleshtone, then a wash of 50/50 carrobourgh crimson and blood for the blood god.
then for the big pustules, a few thin layers of nurgles rot, then the carro/blood wash over it again. for the intestines, a final layer of cadian fleshtone.
sorry this ones out of focus
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>>57396728
Okay that filename is worth a kek
The other half is sticking the knife in
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>that one guy who mains brayherds
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>>57405686
custom mountain tribe from ghur
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>>57405408
THICC
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>>57405686
Castigators of Ib are a nurgle plagueband that hunt down scientists working on cures and convert them into blightkings, corrupting their medicine into virulent toxins
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>>57398061
Whats the sauce on this qna, if you dont mind my asking?
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>>57399348
good choice brother
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>5 ways to choke on soup
I can't believe Death became a true npc faction.
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What time do epub battletomes go live on Warhammer digital?
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Would I be an absolute madman to put all my dwarfs on 32mm instead of 25mm? They're really chunky and the weapons hang off the bases a bit on the 25s
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>>57406380
no
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>>57406380
Which Dwarfs?
I've been using 25 for all but my Warden King and they all seem to fit just fine.
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>>57396793
Working on my bloodletters. Probably going to finish these ones off on Sunday then complete the last 9. So far fun little models to paint and learn with.
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>>57402024
No you're not one proud SCE. You're a moron that tries to pose as one. One of the greatest stormcasts, Gardus, was a (and has the mentality of) healer, a non-fighter. Lord castellants and veritants are not just fighters, same as relictors. SAME as ordinators.

Now fuck of you disgrace.
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>>57402860
>Warpath.

Do they even have the books? Last I checked they didn't even have the rulebook for sale.
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>>57406483
>SCE babby is autistic

Who would have thought?
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>>57397039
Moonclan incoming march.
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>>57400183
nagash won't be the main baddie in this story. Only initially.
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>>57401643
I love this good lizard dog, but i've put like, half a tube of filler in the gaps by now. Why u not as good as new kits, Carni.
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>it's another campaign where Order wins again
>with Chaos and their overpowered Tzeentch army, scrub killer army clan skryre and newly released Maggotkin bringing them close second
>Death is dead last again, because GW forgot to nerf Ironjawz from the other NPC Alliance
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>>57406529
http://www.manticgames.com/mantic-shop/warpath/product/warpath-rulebook-collection.html

Source: Google.
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>>57402024
He's a scryer and seer; not just a combat engineer.
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All these immigrants from other games coming here desperate for interaction with actual active wargamers.
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>>57406895
I'm sorry Death anon.
We Death and Dispossessed players need to stick together. Fuck Sigmar, he is a tyrant slaver to us and a greedy thief to you.
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>>57406895
Must make planning easy for gw at least. They are certain of the outcome.

Unless they bake in some sort of level playing field into the campaign somehow.
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>>57406996
never thought I'd say this but us goblins are on your side, dwarfs. Sigmar is the common enemy in AOS. For all 4 GAs unless you're stormcast.
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>>57401185
It doubled because they replaced the fuckhead CEO who killed it.
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>>57401185
That's multifactorial. GW started communicating with their fanbase and started doing discount box sets. That has a lot to do with it.
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>>57396793
a fuckload of bases and some SC
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>>57407103
nice dullahan army
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>>57407103
Can you give me a rundown on his you do your bases? And where you get the material?

Also they look pretty awesome even unpainted
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>>57407066
>>57407080
Killing it had no adverse effect whatsoever, therefore it was not a mistake. Old World as franchise was done, you could not squeeze anything much new into it, while AoS gives them plenty of possibilities for new model lines to sell. It also scales far better, so new players can play SC vs SC and still have fun, whereas 2 regiments 1 hero games in WFB were just pointless.
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>>57398527
Is he Wojak?
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>>57407190
I use a combination of cork, different sands and the citadel technical paints.
I experiment a lot by putting most of it random but I keep were the models will stand mostly flat, but with some layer of texture using the technical paint.
I then drill a hole in one of the models feet and attach the model with a brass rod.
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>>57407198
>you could not squeeze anything much new into it
I mean if they actually went outside of faux-europe there'd be plenty to cover.
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>>57407273
and for the rocks I use bark and a layer of liquid green stuff for some protection
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>>57407298
>I mean if they actually went outside of faux-europe there'd be plenty to cover.
Not really.Lustria and Naggartoh were taken, southlands had lizards and rats, arabia would be just more historical humans with a djinn, and ogres ate everything between the mountains and Cathay and Ind...which would probably be more human factions with dragons.
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>>57407298
Wouldn’t work for the same reason no one really paints their minis as kangz.
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>>57402582
Harshly doubt that, but if that were an SC box, I'd buy it in a heartbeat because those would be something like 55% savings-
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>go watch WHTV because grand tournament
>someone is playing dispossessed
but AoSg said it is a shitty meme army that will soon be squatted?
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>>57396728
Anyone else submitting to the BL open submissions thingy?

What're you writing?
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>>57399227

>get out of my hobby
>hobby

do you not like kitbashing, anon? did someone hurt you?
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>>57399363

This. Fuck off with the "poorfags stay out of my hobby," you're literally the cancer killing the hobby side of this shit
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Is it worth to buy mournfang brown spray to paint skryre? It is extra handy to paint machines (Christ, all those spikes on WLC) but all I had to paint now are stormfiends and weapon teams
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>>57407808

A procedural story about a freeguilder enlisting the help of a nagashite necromancer about a series of murders caused by a Slaaneshi cultist that went to ulgu.
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>>57407066

The CEO didn't get replaced. Kirby just was an interim in look for a successor, because Wells retired from Old Age and he needed someone suitable... plus he got out before the release of AOS-
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>>57407782
most of AOSG, like most of TG is semi-perpetually wrong.
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>Gutrot Spume changed to be some guy from the mortal realms rather a champion from the World That Was
>Glottkin are still said to be from the World That Was though

But why?
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>>57408207
>>57408207
>>57408207
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So do we have to wait for the QnA to know if the point based summoning in maggotkin still requires you to have reinforcement points too?
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>>57407315
Ind at least was confirmed to have been ruled by rakshasa beastmen, and Cathay has the hobgoblin hordes north of the !Great Wall with nearby ogres and was ruled by a Dragon Emperor. Nippon trained Clan Eshin in the ways of being flipping ninjas, so there's all that nonsense to play with.




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